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Posted Mar 17, 2011 1:59 UTC (Thu) by leiz (guest, #46265)
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(Chromium developer here)

a few comments:

- The green flashing and thread_restrictions.cc crash are both due to the fact that you did a Debug build.

- With Google Chrome, we provide stable/beta/dev channel packages, so users can choose what they are comfortable with, much like you would with Debian stable/beta/dev. If the Fedora Chromium package provider takes the time to package multiple channels, then Fedora users can try Chrome 10, 11, or 12 right now.

- There are lots of Chromium developer who care about Linux, but fonts are a tricky issue. Have you looked at http://neugierig.org/software/chromium/fonts/ ?

- Development happens on chromium-dev, not chromium-discuss.


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Posted Mar 17, 2011 2:00 UTC (Thu) by leiz (guest, #46265) [Link]

slight correction, to the second bullet point:

then Fedora users can try *Chromium* 10, 11, or 12 right now.

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Posted Mar 17, 2011 2:13 UTC (Thu) by jake (editor, #205) [Link] (1 responses)

> Development happens on chromium-dev, not chromium-discuss.

hmm, so when you follow the "Getting Involved" link to the "developer discussion links" link, you end up here:

http://www.chromium.org/developers/discussion-groups

which doesn't seem to say anything about chromium-dev -- the only group that it mentions that seems at all appropriate is chromium-discuss ...

jake

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Posted Mar 17, 2011 2:19 UTC (Thu) by jake (editor, #205) [Link]

(replying to myself, sorry ...)

I do see, now, that the Developers page: http://www.chromium.org/developers does have a link for Technical Discussion Groups: http://www.chromium.org/developers/technical-discussion-g... which lists chromium-dev -- I probably should have seen that ... I got distracted by the "developer discussion" link in the earlier page.

thanks for the pointer ...

jake

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Posted Mar 17, 2011 5:00 UTC (Thu) by rsidd (subscriber, #2582) [Link] (6 responses)

I've been using Chrome via Google's unstable channel for a while now (on ubuntu). Currently it's version 11.0.696.3-dev. It's fast and it's stable, far more than the stablest Firefox I have ever used -- I wish all desktop software were equally stable. Its startup time, after a cold boot, is a tiny fraction of the time Firefox takes, and even when Firefox has been previously started and closed, it takes much longer than Chrome to restart.

Basically, I only use firefox now and then because of the zotero extension.

The fonts look just the same as on firefox. I don't know what the difference is from chromium.

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Posted Mar 17, 2011 8:15 UTC (Thu) by Lennie (subscriber, #49641) [Link] (4 responses)

I don't know what people do with Firefox that cause so many problems.

My Firefox is more stable than Chrome. Everytime I use Chrome I can have tabs hang which block the whole interface and can't close the tabs.

Eventhough this is exactly what I see people complain about in Firefox and is supposedly fixed in Chrome.

And I even use daily builds of Firefox and have lots of extensions installed (although some are disabled because of incompatibilities with the daily builds).

I'm also on Ubuntu.

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Posted Mar 17, 2011 16:40 UTC (Thu) by rfunk (subscriber, #4054) [Link] (1 responses)

"Everytime I use Chrome I can have tabs hang which block the whole interface and can't close the tabs."

I didn't even think that was possible, since each tab uses its own process.

Occasionally I've had to kill a tab's process, but the interface was fine.

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Posted Mar 18, 2011 15:55 UTC (Fri) by cortana (subscriber, #24596) [Link]

I find that if the keyboard focus is on the tab content then a spinning tab can't be closed by pressing ctrl+w or the tab close button. Clicking on the address bar, or otherwise putting the focus on the browser itself rather than a tab, restores the ability to close the tab.

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Posted Mar 21, 2011 8:22 UTC (Mon) by ncm (guest, #165) [Link] (1 responses)

Indeed, I have had Chrome crashes lately on pages that Firefox handles without difficulty. Try signing up for service at dslextreme.com in Chrome.

Speaking of regressions, has anybody else noticed that Google Maps works quite a bit less well than it used to?

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Posted Mar 21, 2011 17:41 UTC (Mon) by fuhchee (guest, #40059) [Link]

"has anybody else noticed that Google Maps works quite a bit less well than it used to?"

Yes, I thought it was my imagination.

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Posted Mar 17, 2011 13:18 UTC (Thu) by salimma (subscriber, #34460) [Link]

Same here; the font issue is one of the reason I moved back to Chrome after trying Chromium.

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Posted Mar 17, 2011 13:47 UTC (Thu) by Frej (guest, #4165) [Link]

Just if anybody actually reads the font page, it is good info, but somewhat wrong.

I'm not sure it's correct that _both_ fontconfig and Xsetting hinting values are required to match. Secondly the values have no semantic meaning in fontconfig, and are tied to libfreetype.
_Hinting values have no meaning at all inside fontconfig_. It's just a property value.

I've always wondered why you could set hinting value there, because it has nothing to with finding and loading fonts.

Maybe non X installations? But you still need to pass the value from fontconfig to whatver libfreetype call. Anyways now it's out 'there', we have all kinds of people expecting it to have a meaning.

Further fontconfig is hardly the old way of doing things. It's the newest part of font handling on lunix :).

Ofcourse i've never read any of the code, so I might be wrong as well.


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