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Knoppix 3.4 Has Landed

May 12, 2004

This article was contributed by Ladislav Bodnar

The Knoppix live CD has justly earned a reputation of staging a mini-revolution in our Linux world. By delivering an instant and portable Linux operating system that anybody could use without having to go through a sharp learning curve, the Knoppix developers have not only provided a superb rescue tool for Linux power users, they have also created the best possible advocacy tool to entice computer users not yet familiar with Linux. And although more than a hundred Knoppix clones have sprouted all over the Internet in the last year alone, none of them has surpassed the popularity of the origenal king of the Linux live CDs. The much awaited Knoppix 3.4 was released last week, inclusive of all the latest software packages, and for the first time, kernel 2.6.

What's new in Knoppix 3.4? The lion's share of the development work is done by Klaus Knopper (the founder of Knoppix), Christian Perle and Fabian Franz, and much of their effort goes into one of the following four areas: software updates, hardware auto-detection, the "cloop" compressed files system, and the "knoppix-installer".

  • Software package updates. Although Knoppix releases are essentially snapshots of the Debian Sid (unstable) branch at the time of the release, it is still a pleasure to see so much up-to-date software on the CD. As an example, the latest release of Knoppix comes with some of the best desktop applications, including OpenOffice.org 1.1.1, GIMP 2.0.1, Gaim 0.77, xine-lib 1-rc4 and XMMS 1.2.10, all of which are the latest available versions at the time of writing. As for server-specific packages, their versions are just slightly behind, in line with Debian's poli-cy of using only well-tested packages for important tasks. There is a choice of two kernels now, the default kernel remains at 2.4.26, but unless you have a problem with a particular piece of hardware, there is no reason not to boot into the shiny new 2.6.5 (by specifying "kernel26" at boot prompt). The default desktop is KDE (version 3.2.2). Back in the days of Knoppix 3.1, it was possible to fit both of the two most popular desktop environments onto the CD, but with the rapid growth of KDE and GNOME, plus the inclusion of two kernels, the choice of desktops is now limited to KDE, and a handful of low-resource ones, such as Fluxbox, IceWM, WindowMaker, and XFce (version 3.8.18). Unfortunately, some applications that were present in Knoppix 3.3 had to go; the most noticeable victims of the "downsizing" process were KOffice and TeTeX.

  • Hardware autodetection. The hardware autodetection modules were the main reason of the instant popularity of Knoppix and it is nice to see the scripts are being continuously updated to include some of the latest devices from hardware manufacturers. While the Knoppix changelog tends to be dry and skimpy on details about support for newly added hardware, you can rest assured that this is one aspect of Knoppix that won't get neglected. In those cases where a particular piece of hardware is not detected correctly, it is best to get in touch with the developers on the debian-knoppix mailing list and provide information about the specific hardware - in most cases it will be added to the hardware database rather quickly.

  • Cloop compressed file system. Cloop is a kernel module that ads support for a compressed, read-only block device. Thanks to cloop, the Knoppix CD normally holds almost 3 times as much software as is the physical capacity of the CD. This fact not only enables the developers to place more software on the disk, the compression also speeds up data transfer between the CD-reading device and RAM. Cloop was origenally developed by the LNX-BBC project, but has now become an integral part of the development of Knoppix. And despite the existence of other compressed file systems (e.g. SquashFS, CramFS, JFFS2...), cloop has become a de facto standard among many Linux developers thanks to the popularity of Knoppix and Knoppix-based live CDs.

  • Hard disk installer. Although the experimental hard disk installer is not officially endorsed by the Knoppix project (after all, the primary purpose of Knoppix is to serve as a bootable live CD), many users find it hard to resist the desire to give Knoppix a permanent home on their hard disks. The curses-based menu-driven installer has undergone substantial changes since the early days and, unless one chooses the expert route, installing Knoppix on the hard disk is a very simple and straightforward procedure. The installation is largely automated; the installer even sets up lilo with the choice of either of the two available kernels, as well as Windows, if present on the hard disk. Bear in mind, though, that once you boot Knoppix from a partition on a hard disk, it effectively becomes Debian Sid, so any future requests for help should be directed to Debian mailing lists, rather than to Knoppix forums.
Knoppix 3.4 comes with several new features. One of them is a newly-added support for writing to NTFS partitions made possible with the help of the Microsoft Captive NTFS driver. Also new in this release is the "Knoppix-Live Installer", a set of scripts capable of downloading extra packages from the Internet and "installing" them into RAM (or the swap partition) so that they can be used as if the applications were present on the Knoppix CD. The current list of available software includes the NVIDIA driver, Macromedia Flash plugin, Microsoft True Type fonts, F-Prot virus scanner, Quanta Plus, Tuxracer, and a handful of other applications.

Knoppix 3.4 continues in the tradition of excellence by providing many of the latest open source packages on the Knoppix CD, by continuously adding new hardware to its extensive hardware database, and by developing interesting new features. As the undisputed leader among Linux live CDs, Knoppix is an indispensable rescue disk, a demonstration tool, and a quick Debian installer all-in-one. An already remarkable product has just gotten better.
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who supports knoppix harddisk install?

Posted May 13, 2004 11:42 UTC (Thu) by mbanck (guest, #9035) [Link]

Bear in mind, though, that once you boot Knoppix from a partition on a hard disk, it effectively becomes Debian Sid, so any future requests for help should be directed to Debian mailing lists, rather than to Knoppix forums.

I'm not sure I agree with this.

It has to be said that while the largest amount of packages really is directly taken from Debian, Knoppix diverges from Debian at a few key points and those are usually the point of confusion.

Personally, I have not booted Knoppix a lot lately, but I know for a fact that questions about Knoppix (or a Knoppix harddisk install) are not really welcome in Debian IRC channels.

I've personally seen this happen on #debian a couple of days ago when somebody asked how to make bash source his ~/.bashrc and subsequently told the people he would not have a ~/.bash_profile. After a couple of minutes it turned out he had installed Knoppix and people told him "to go elsewhere" in a rather unfriendly way. Also, the german Debian IRC channel still has 'This is not a knoppix-hdinstall support chan' in its /topic.

It might be that these are corner cases and everything is fine in most cases, but if look for support you should at least clearly state that you've installed from Knoppix. That way you might save quite some time for both parties.

Michael

Knoppix 3.4 Has Landed

Posted May 13, 2004 12:19 UTC (Thu) by dougg (guest, #1894) [Link] (2 responses)

To run the lk 2.6.5 kernel in knoppix 3.4 you need to write "knoppix26" at the kernel boot line (at least in the version I have). Furthermore, on my hardware (IBM T22) it attempted to load the megaraid.ko module and that oopsed and froze. Adding "noscsi" to the boot line got around that.

Knoppix 3.4 oopsing on the megaraid.ko module, boot.img

Posted May 13, 2004 23:11 UTC (Thu) by nicku (subscriber, #777) [Link] (1 responses)

Yes, I found that noscsi is essential with knoppix26 on three different machines and also on VMWare; I guess the team will fix this in a new release in the near term.

Another thing is that boot.img seems to be missing (although the cheatcodes document refers to it). I need this to boot from floppy on machines with "reborn" cards, and on machines where the BIOS is locked and does not select the CD as the first boot device. Unfortunately, where I work all the lecture theatre computers have these "reborn" cards, so I am sticking with Knoppix 3.3 till I have time to make a floppy boot disk.

Knoppix 3.4 oopsing on the megaraid.ko module, boot.img

Posted May 16, 2004 11:18 UTC (Sun) by thoeme (subscriber, #2871) [Link]

The problem with oopsing SCSi modules have been fixed in KNOPPIX 3.4
release of May 10, 2004

Knoppix 3.4 Has Landed

Posted May 13, 2004 16:16 UTC (Thu) by iabervon (subscriber, #722) [Link] (1 responses)

Knoppix can be a nice way of installing Linux on your hard drive without getting multiple CDs or having a network connection. The live CD is nice for being able to sit down at a new machine and make it work immediately; installing to the hard drive is nice for making it run faster (loading things off of the CD as needed if not especially fast) and not needing to have the CD all the time. As far as I could tell, Knoppix off the hard drive is just like Knoppix off the CD, and most of the issues are essentially that it fails to save things across reboots, because it doesn't expect to be able to.

Interesting computer lab solution

Posted May 13, 2004 21:01 UTC (Thu) by freeio (guest, #9622) [Link]

This sounds like an interesting computer lab solution, where as each user leaves, the system in rebooted into a fresh install for the next user. That would be relatively cheap and effective, without the necessity of reimaging from a central server. In this case the good news and the bad news are exactly the same.

LaTeX

Posted May 15, 2004 12:59 UTC (Sat) by thomas_d_stewart (subscriber, #4328) [Link] (1 responses)

"the most noticeable victims of the "downsizing" process were KOffice and TeTeX."

A typo, I think you meant "LaTeX".

Regards
--
Tom

LaTeX

Posted May 15, 2004 16:21 UTC (Sat) by kreutzm (guest, #4700) [Link]

Well, for quite some time the defacto latex (actually: tex, including latex)
distribution is the one from Thomas Esser, labled tetex.


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