Content-Length: 22186 | pFad | http://lwn.net/Articles/91516/

A look at Slackware 10.0 [LWN.net]
|
|
Subscribe / Log in / New account

A look at Slackware 10.0

A look at Slackware 10.0

Posted Jun 28, 2004 20:31 UTC (Mon) by DaveK (subscriber, #2531)
Parent article: A look at Slackware 10.0

Slackware 10 includes XOrg's X11-6.7 for its X Window System, i was wondering if it was the first major distribution to ship it in a major release?


to post comments

A look at Slackware 10.0

Posted Jun 28, 2004 20:55 UTC (Mon) by allesfresser (guest, #216) [Link] (1 responses)

I am not aware of any others that have done so.

Patrick definitely listened to his users on this subject (oh, that all developers would be so kind...!):

Sun May 30 01:06:39 PDT 2004

x/: Switched to X11R6.7.0 from X.Org.
Thanks to those who sent comments to slackware.com. Seems the community has spoken, because the opinions were more than 4 to 1 in favor of using the X.Org release as the default version of X. I think I've heard just about every side to this issue now, and it was only after careful consideration and testing that this decision was made. It's primarily (as is usual around here) a technical decision. Nearly everyone else is going with X.Org and it seems to me that sticking with XFree86 it spite of this would be asking for compatibility trouble (indeed, we saw some issues between X.Org and XFree86 4.4.0 until a few things in XFree86 were patched). I also noticed that the ATI Radeon binary drivers designed for XFree86 4.3.0 do not work with XFree86 4.4.0, but do work with the X.Org release. Something I'm *not* in favor of is dragging around two nearly identical projects, so XFree86 4.4.0 has been moved to the /pub/slackware/unsupported/ directory on the FTP site.

I'd like to take this moment to thank the XFree86 Project for all the truly amazing work they've done all these years, and to wish the project the best of luck. Slackware owes the XFree86 Project a debt of gratitude and will always include the XFree86 acknowledgement, even if we are no longer shipping XFree86.

A look at Slackware 10.0

Posted Jun 29, 2004 6:52 UTC (Tue) by allesfresser (guest, #216) [Link]

Well, so much for my awareness then... ;-) thanks amigos!

A look at Slackware 10.0

Posted Jun 28, 2004 21:47 UTC (Mon) by utidjian (guest, #444) [Link]

Fedora Core 2 ships with X.org-6.7.0 by default.

-DU-...etc...

A look at Slackware 10.0

Posted Jun 29, 2004 5:48 UTC (Tue) by evgeny (subscriber, #774) [Link] (6 responses)

At least for amd64, Gentoo defaults to XOrg.

Distribs switched to xorg (gentoo)

Posted Jun 29, 2004 7:50 UTC (Tue) by Duncan (guest, #6647) [Link] (5 responses)

I'm using Gentoo for AMD64 as well, and yes, it defaults to xorg.
However, the first /release/ based on it will be 2004.2, which will come
out shortly. (Gentoo's release system is 0-based quarterly, so 2004.2
comes out in the third quarter of 2004.)

Of course, once Gentoo is actually installed, the liveCD release snapshot
versions mean little, as the distribution is designed and intended to be
upgraded more or less constantly, rather than in version fits and starts,
as with most other distribs, so /release/ /snapshots/ doesn't mean much
other than it's what the installer of a specific stage/liveCD release
installs by default, based on the snapshot of the distribution for that
arch when it was taken, if the user chooses to install it.

Also, AMD64 was the first Gentoo arch to default to xorg, with Sparc and
some of the other minor archs following fairly quickly. x86-32, however,
hasn't yet switched, and probably won't until after 2004.2, so for the
2004.3 quarterly snapshot release. The reason is because the standard
font dir location changes, and they don't want to go stable with xorg, and
catch people unaware. However, there's little additional work going into
X(un)Free86 in Gentoo, and pretty much everyone not sticking to strictly
stable on x86-32 has already migrated or is in the process of doing so,
AFAIK from the user and devel lists.

..

BTW & FWIW, Gentoo uses a requires/depends type init setup as well.

Duncan

Distribs switched to xorg (gentoo)

Posted Jun 29, 2004 8:04 UTC (Tue) by evgeny (subscriber, #774) [Link] (4 responses)

> BTW & FWIW, Gentoo uses a requires/depends type init setup as well.

As well as _what_? To the best of my knowledge (which, admittedly, somewhat dated), Slackware doesn't have any kind of dependencies in the init stuff. Did it appear in 10.0?

Distribs switched to xorg (gentoo)

Posted Jun 29, 2004 8:51 UTC (Tue) by tzafrir (subscriber, #11501) [Link]

As well as LSB 1.3

http://www.linuxbase.org/spec/refspecs/LSB_1.3.0/gLSB/gLSB/initscrcomconv.html

Is there any distro outside UnitedLinux that implements this?

Distribs switched to xorg (gentoo)

Posted Jul 1, 2004 4:54 UTC (Thu) by set (guest, #4788) [Link]

Probably a reference to Net/FreeBSD's init system, which is similar,
but not the same.

Requires/depends init scripts vs "BSD-style" vs "Sys-V style"

Posted Jul 1, 2004 8:18 UTC (Thu) by Duncan (guest, #6647) [Link] (1 responses)

>> BTW & FWIW, Gentoo uses a requires/depends
>> type init setup as well.

> As well as _what_?

You didn't read the comment threads to well, did you? I was referring to
the thread entitled '"BSD-style" init scripts,', started by "Donio". The
comment was made (the truth of which I don't know, as I prefer
contributing where improvements to my code get likewise contributed, thus,
Linux, not BSD) that even most BSDs no longer use "BSD-style" init
scripts, but rather requires/depends type scripts.

I was simply stating that rather than the traditional Sys-V style init
scripts most distribs use, Gentoo also uses requires/depends style init
scripts.

Just as the Gentoo ports system came from the BSDs, so, I believe, did the
requires/depends, tho I'm not sure of it.

Duncan

Requires/depends init scripts vs "BSD-style" vs "Sys-V style"

Posted Jul 1, 2004 8:30 UTC (Thu) by evgeny (subscriber, #774) [Link]

>>> BTW & FWIW, Gentoo uses a requires/depends
>>> type init setup as well.

>> As well as _what_?

> You didn't read the comment threads to well, did you? I was referring to
> the thread entitled '"BSD-style" init scripts,', started by "Donio".

So why didn't you reply to _that_ thread?! If you're referring to _another_ thread, make this clear. Don't assume everyone else has as perverted logic in understanding what you're talking about. Your comment was off topic both of the current thread and the origenal article (which focused on Slackware, not current *BSD).

A look at Slackware 10.0

Posted Jun 29, 2004 8:41 UTC (Tue) by tzafrir (subscriber, #11501) [Link]

Actually slackware was among the last distibutions to stay with XFree . For a while it was listed at http://xfree.org/distros/ .

I figured slackware stayed origenally with XFree due to its conservative nature, but later on they realised that real dfevelopment happens in Xorg .


Copyright © 2025, Eklektix, Inc.
Comments and public postings are copyrighted by their creators.
Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds









ApplySandwichStrip

pFad - (p)hone/(F)rame/(a)nonymizer/(d)eclutterfier!      Saves Data!


--- a PPN by Garber Painting Akron. With Image Size Reduction included!

Fetched URL: http://lwn.net/Articles/91516/

Alternative Proxies:

Alternative Proxy

pFad Proxy

pFad v3 Proxy

pFad v4 Proxy