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 [RFC 0/7] introduce memory hinting API for external process Minchan Kim
 ` [RFC 1/7] mm: introduce MADV_COOL Minchan Kim
   ` Michal Hocko
     ` Michal Hocko
       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
       ` Minchan Kim
     ` Minchan Kim
       ` Michal Hocko
         ` Minchan Kim
           ` Michal Hocko
   ` Minchan Kim
 ` [RFC 2/7] mm: change PAGEREF_RECLAIM_CLEAN with PAGE_REFRECLAIM Minchan Kim
   ` Johannes Weiner
     ` Minchan Kim
 ` [RFC 3/7] mm: introduce MADV_COLD Minchan Kim
   ` Michal Hocko
     ` Minchan Kim
       ` Michal Hocko
         ` Minchan Kim
   ` Minchan Kim
 ` [RFC 4/7] mm: factor out madvise's core functionality Minchan Kim
   ` Oleksandr Natalenko
     ` Minchan Kim
       ` Oleksandr Natalenko
         ` Michal Hocko
           ` Oleksandr Natalenko
             ` Minchan Kim
               ` Michal Hocko
                 ` Minchan Kim
                   ` Michal Hocko
         ` Minchan Kim
           ` Michal Hocko
 ` [RFC 5/7] mm: introduce external memory hinting API Minchan Kim
   ` Michal Hocko
     ` Minchan Kim
       ` Michal Hocko
         ` Minchan Kim
   ` Christian Brauner
     ` Minchan Kim
       ` Christian Brauner
   ` Oleg Nesterov
     ` Minchan Kim
       ` Oleg Nesterov
         ` Minchan Kim
           ` Michal Hocko
   ` Minchan Kim
 ` [RFC 6/7] mm: extend process_madvise syscall to support vector arrary Minchan Kim
   ` Michal Hocko
     ` Minchan Kim
       ` Michal Hocko [this message]
         ` Minchan Kim
           ` Michal Hocko
             ` Minchan Kim
               ` Daniel Colascione
                 ` Michal Hocko
                   ` Minchan Kim
                     ` Michal Hocko
                       ` Minchan Kim
                         ` Daniel Colascione
                         ` Michal Hocko
   ` Minchan Kim
 ` [RFC 7/7] mm: madvise support MADV_ANONYMOUS_FILTER and MADV_FILE_FILTER Minchan Kim
   ` Michal Hocko
     ` Minchan Kim
       ` Michal Hocko
         ` Minchan Kim
           ` Michal Hocko
             ` Minchan Kim
               ` Michal Hocko
                 ` Minchan Kim
                   ` Daniel Colascione
                     ` Minchan Kim
                       ` Michal Hocko
                         ` Daniel Colascione
                           ` Michal Hocko
                             ` Daniel Colascione
                               ` Michal Hocko
                                 ` Daniel Colascione
                                   ` Michal Hocko
                         ` Minchan Kim
                           ` Michal Hocko
                             ` Minchan Kim
                               ` Michal Hocko
                                 ` Daniel Colascione
                                   ` Michal Hocko
                                     ` Daniel Colascione
                                       ` Michal Hocko
                                   ` Minchan Kim
                                 ` Minchan Kim
                                   ` Daniel Colascione
                                   ` Michal Hocko
                                     ` Minchan Kim
                             ` Daniel Colascione
       ` Johannes Weiner
         ` Minchan Kim
   ` Minchan Kim
 ` [RFC 0/7] introduce memory hinting API for external process Anshuman Khandual
   ` Tim Murray
     ` Anshuman Khandual
       ` Minchan Kim
       ` Michal Hocko
         ` Anshuman Khandual
       ` Shakeel Butt
         ` Brian Geffon
 ` Michal Hocko
 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
   ` Minchan Kim
 ` Johannes Weiner
   ` Minchan Kim
     ` Michal Hocko
 ` Matthew Wilcox
   ` Minchan Kim
   ` Michal Hocko
 ` Christian Brauner
   ` Minchan Kim
     ` Christian Brauner
       ` Christian Brauner
         ` Daniel Colascione
           ` Christian Brauner
             ` Daniel Colascione
               ` Christian Brauner
                 ` Daniel Colascione
                   ` Christian Brauner
                     ` Daniel Colascione
                       ` Christian Brauner
                         ` Daniel Colascione
                           ` Minchan Kim
                             ` Minchan Kim
       ` Minchan Kim
         ` Christian Brauner
           ` Oleksandr Natalenko
 ` Shakeel Butt

From:  Michal Hocko <mhocko-AT-kernel.org>
To:  Minchan Kim <minchan-AT-kernel.org>
Subject:  Re: [RFC 6/7] mm: extend process_madvise syscall to support vector arrary
Date:  Tue, 21 May 2019 08:24:21 +0200
Message-ID:  <20190521062421.GD32329@dhcp22.suse.cz>
Cc:  Andrew Morton <akpm-AT-linux-foundation.org>, LKML <linux-kernel-AT-vger.kernel.org>, linux-mm <linux-mm-AT-kvack.org>, Johannes Weiner <hannes-AT-cmpxchg.org>, Tim Murray <timmurray-AT-google.com>, Joel Fernandes <joel-AT-joelfernandes.org>, Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb-AT-google.com>, Daniel Colascione <dancol-AT-google.com>, Shakeel Butt <shakeelb-AT-google.com>, Sonny Rao <sonnyrao-AT-google.com>, Brian Geffon <bgeffon-AT-google.com>, linux-api-AT-vger.kernel.org

On Tue 21-05-19 11:48:20, Minchan Kim wrote:
> On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 11:22:58AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > [Cc linux-api]
> > 
> > On Mon 20-05-19 12:52:53, Minchan Kim wrote:
> > > Currently, process_madvise syscall works for only one address range
> > > so user should call the syscall several times to give hints to
> > > multiple address range.
> > 
> > Is that a problem? How big of a problem? Any numbers?
> 
> We easily have 2000+ vma so it's not trivial overhead. I will come up
> with number in the description at respin.

Does this really have to be a fast operation? I would expect the monitor
is by no means a fast path. The system call overhead is not what it used
to be, sigh, but still for something that is not a hot path it should be
tolerable, especially when the whole operation is quite expensive on its
own (wrt. the syscall entry/exit).

I am not saying we do not need a multiplexing API, I am just not sure
we need it right away. Btw. there was some demand for other MM syscalls
to provide a multiplexing API (e.g. mprotect), maybe it would be better
to handle those in one go?
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


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