Once somebody summons God or faith in a discussion of politics and society as some type of ultimate truth claim or proof there is nothing more to discuss, because you can't win that argument.

You can't win games without goals, though.

“You can’t win with field goals,” quarterback Jayden Maiava said.

So let me get this straight: Lincoln Riley has too many coaches and can’t win?

And they certainly can’t win a debate that they refuse to join.