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K1ABC

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Jun 5, 2010, 11:24:24 AM6/5/10
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Hi,

When using the Apple iPad, I would like to have the default be the
full version of the aprs.fi site. Rather than the mobile version which
it always reverts to. The mobile version has limited functionality -
too limited for the iPad! Anyone know a workaround? Thanks.

73, K1ABC

Heikki Hannikainen

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Jun 6, 2010, 8:53:37 AM6/6/10
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Hi,

I've added code which tries to detect the iPad and treat it as a
non-mobile device. According to the log files, it at least detects
someone's browser as an iPad, I hope it actually is one. :) I've got no
device to test with.

If someone travelling between the EU and the US would like to buy me an
iPad, and mail it to me from inside the EU (no customs / taxes for
intra-EU stuff), it'd be greatly appreciated. I'm willing to pay for it,
of course. They're not sold in Finland yet, and when they finally hit the
shops, it'll be quite a bit more expensive.

- Hessu

Paul MacDonald

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Jun 6, 2010, 11:55:35 AM6/6/10
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Hi Hessu,

I see the change today. Thanks. Now, if you can get the gestures working like some and pan we'd be looking real good!

Understandably you don't have an iPad to work with. But the gestures should be the same as with a iPod Touch or iPhone.

Currently, the zoom gesture just zooms the image, so zooming in just creates a pixelated map. One would want the zoom gesture to work just like using the up and down zoom control on the upper left of the screen. (the slider doesn't work because that would be the scroll gesture for the Apple devices).

Likewise, panning should enable panning infinitely in any direction on the map. But right now it just stops at the image boundary. Again the Apple gesture for pan should function as though we were using the pan control in the upper left.

Good start on the Applefication of aprs.fi! Thanks!

73! Paul

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Heikki Hannikainen

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Jun 6, 2010, 3:41:21 PM6/6/10
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On Sun, 6 Jun 2010, Paul MacDonald wrote:

> I see the change today. Thanks. Now, if you can get the gestures working
> like some and pan we'd be looking real good!

They do work on the iPhone, I'm very much surprised if they don't on the
ipad. Anyway, I don't have any special code for that functionality, it's
all on Google's maps code and out of my control.

> Currently, the zoom gesture just zooms the image, so zooming in just
> creates a pixelated map. One would want the zoom gesture to work just
> like using the up and down zoom control on the upper left of the screen.
> (the slider doesn't work because that would be the scroll gesture for
> the Apple devices).

How about the + and - buttons at the ends of the slider?

> Likewise, panning should enable panning infinitely in any direction on
> the map. But right now it just stops at the image boundary. Again the
> Apple gesture for pan should function as though we were using the pan
> control in the upper left.

Again, it does work on my iPhone.

- Hessu

Heikki Hannikainen

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Jun 6, 2010, 11:40:21 PM6/6/10
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Seems like the ipad zoom/pan events have been fixed in Google Maps API v3.
I'll have to upgrade from v2 to v3 to get this fixed, which requires
changing a few things. But at least the fix is now known.

- Hessu

Paul MacDonald

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Jun 7, 2010, 4:13:25 PM6/7/10
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Super ... Looking forward to it.

73, Paul K1ABC

On Jun 6, 2010, at 11:40 PM, Heikki Hannikainen <he...@hes.iki.fi> wrote:

>
> Seems like the ipad zoom/pan events have been fixed in Google Maps API v3. I'll have to upgrade from v2 to v3 to get this fixed, which requires changing a few things. But at least the fix is now known.
>
> - Hessu
>

K1ABC

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Jun 16, 2010, 11:19:47 AM6/16/10
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Hi Hessu,

Any further news on this? Thanks.

73, Paul K1ABC

Heikki Hannikainen

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Jun 17, 2010, 1:48:45 AM6/17/10
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On Wed, 16 Jun 2010, K1ABC wrote:
> On Jun 6, 11:40 pm, Heikki Hannikainen <he...@hes.iki.fi> wrote:
>> Seems like the ipad zoom/pan events have been fixed in Google Maps API v3.
>> I'll have to upgrade from v2 to v3 to get this fixed, which requires
>> changing a few things. But at least the fix is now known.
>
> Any further news on this? Thanks.

This turned out to be a rather big task, as the Google Maps v3 API changes
almost everything from v2. Also, some things were removed (and some will
not be added to v3). Spent quite a few evenings to go through the code.

Try http://beta.aprs.fi/ - it might work with an iPad, or it might not.

If you don't have an ipad, it's still worth testing. Last night I added
some Street View code in there. I'm sure it's broken in many ways, but
it's pretty cool anyway. You can drag the yellow Street View pegman from
above the zoom tool to the map to view an arbitrary position, or you can
click on the 'track in Street View' in the info balloon of a station to
get a real-time view at the latest position! If there are no Street View
images available in the position of that station, it will fail silently
(with no error messages). When dragging the pegman you'll see blue
outlines for the available streets.

I haven't even tried it with IE6 yet, and Google has officially dropped
IE6 support with the v3 API. It might work, but it's not an official
priority any more. During the past 30 days, 6.6% of aprs.fi visitors used
IE6, and 0.25% used an iPad. If IE6 works really badly with the new API,
this is going to be painful...

- Hessu

Paul MacDonald

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Jun 17, 2010, 7:53:56 AM6/17/10
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Works perfect on the iPad now. Great job! Pinch to zoom and scrolling work great. It is a bit slow compared to the native Google site. But still adequate. Thanks.

-Paul

Justin Pontius

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Jun 17, 2010, 8:37:57 AM6/17/10
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I tried the beta site from a normal laptop w/ Windows 7 and it works much faster!!  Before it would take some time to load the individual map tiles, and some would hang and not load at all unless I zoomed in/out.  Now it works perfect!   Thanks Heikki!!

KD8IAY
Justin

Heikki Hannikainen

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Jun 17, 2010, 9:05:09 AM6/17/10
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To my great surprise, the Street View feature (even in real-time first-person-view tracking mode) works OK on my iphone. Good entertainment for a dull meeting at work. 

  - Hessu

Gavin Nesbitt

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Jun 17, 2010, 10:04:20 AM6/17/10
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Interesting,

Using Google Chrome (Win XP SP3) no stations appear at all and doing a
callsign search keeps the map centred on Helsinki, I seem to have 'updating'
all the time in the status box.

BR,

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Heikki Hannikainen

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Jun 17, 2010, 11:21:18 AM6/17/10
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On Thu, 17 Jun 2010, Gavin Nesbitt wrote:

> Using Google Chrome (Win XP SP3) no stations appear at all and doing a
> callsign search keeps the map centred on Helsinki, I seem to have 'updating'
> all the time in the status box.

It does work fine for me, Chrome 5.0.375.70 on XP SP3. Even when searching
for a callsign, and with street view and all.

Again, I would like to remind of the instructions:

http://groups.google.com/group/aprsfi

- callsign you searched for?

- chrome version?

- do other browsers (Firefox, IE7 or IE8) work with beta.aprs.fi on the
same computer, or is this specific to Chrome?

- Hessu

Gavin Nesbitt

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Jun 18, 2010, 4:37:22 AM6/18/10
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Stupid me!

Chrome 5.0.375.70 on XP SP3, search callsign is M1BXF-9. On the same PC IE8
8.0.6001.18702 works fine.

On Chrome I tried logging out and logging in again incase. I don't get any
stations appearing.

The old version is still fine for me at the movement so no issue with my
aprs.fi experience.

BR,


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- chrome version?

- Hessu

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Heikki Hannikainen

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Jun 18, 2010, 5:05:20 AM6/18/10
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On Fri, 18 Jun 2010, Gavin Nesbitt wrote:

> Chrome 5.0.375.70 on XP SP3, search callsign is M1BXF-9. On the same PC IE8
> 8.0.6001.18702 works fine.
>
> On Chrome I tried logging out and logging in again incase. I don't get any
> stations appearing.

Ok. Please try the following:

1) restart chrome
2) press Ctrl+Shift+J to open the JavaScript Console
3) open http://beta.aprs.fi/

If any errors or warnings appear in the console, please copy and paste
them to me (including the file names and line numbers on the right).

You could also try clearing the cache (although it should not make any
difference with aprs.fi in general):

1) click on the spanner icon in the top right corner
2) select Options
3) open tab "Under the Bonnet", click on Clear browsing data
4) select only "Empty the cache" and click on Clear browsing data,
5) Close, Close

Gavin Nesbitt

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Jun 18, 2010, 5:22:28 AM6/18/10
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In typical fashion after the loading the Java consol it now works! I hadn't
changed anything since my last message.

I checked it out yesterday with the laptop at work, I shut my laptop down
last night and thought I'd try again today and it still didn't work but now
it is! Great stuff :)

The street view option is very cool!

BR,


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- Hessu

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Paul MacDonald

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Jun 18, 2010, 4:43:41 PM6/18/10
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So, while exercising beta.aprs.fi on the iPad, I selected  "Show All" for a period of 24 hours. Once the screen painted, I pinched to zoom out a bit. The map painted slowly and a portion did not paint - then a few seconds later, Safari crashed. This was repeatable. Everytime I tried it, it crashed.



Paul MacDonald

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Jun 18, 2010, 11:37:26 PM6/18/10
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Works on the iPad as well.


Ray Rischpater

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Jun 19, 2010, 12:54:18 AM6/19/10
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Heikki,
I've seen the behavior Paul describes exactly once --- I wasn't able to reproduce it; I was zooming in and out over the Los Angeles basin. I'll keep a look out for it. I'm wondering if Safari is just running out of memory and falling over.

In other news, it appears to work quite well on the N900 --- because the built-in browser uses one-touch dragging to scroll the page, you have to still use the clickable direction pad in the upper left corner, but other than that, it's fine.

Cheers,
Ray

Heikki Hannikainen

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Jun 19, 2010, 5:13:24 AM6/19/10
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On Fri, 18 Jun 2010, Paul MacDonald wrote:

> So, while exercising beta.aprs.fi on the iPad, I selected  "Show All" for
> a period of 24 hours. Once the screen painted, I pinched to zoom out a
> bit. The map painted slowly and a portion did not paint - then a few
> seconds later, Safari crashed. This was repeatable. Everytime I tried it,
> it crashed.

Maybe you'll just have to go and buy a memory upgrade for the iPad. ;)

I managed to get my iPhone 3GS in a state where I had to reboot it to get
Safari working again. It would open, but refused to actually do anything.

The application is a bit heavy for mobile devices. Lots and lots of
overlays (symbols, paths, etc). There might be some room for optimisation,
but it might just boil down to reducing the amount of items displayed on
top of the map, or turning off path waypoints.

I'll have to play more with it once I get an iPad smuggled here.

- Hessu

Heikki Hannikainen

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Jun 19, 2010, 5:23:20 AM6/19/10
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On Fri, 18 Jun 2010, Ray Rischpater wrote:

> In other news, it appears to work quite well on the N900 --- because the
> built-in browser uses one-touch dragging to scroll the page, you have to
> still use the clickable direction pad in the upper left corner, but other
> than that, it's fine.

There is a feature on the N900 to disable the one-touch dragging and
letting the drag events go to the web page, i've seen it in action but
cannot remember how it was enabled. Some magic key combo or something.

If someone has a spare N900, feel free to mail it this way. :)

- Hessu

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