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This workshop is part of the Graphics Lab, a project aimed at picture retouching to improve the graphical content of the Wikimedia projects. More information about the lab can be found on its main page and requests pages (Illustrations ; Photographs ; Maps ; Video and Sound). To ask questions or make a suggestions, see the talk page of the graphic lab page.

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Proposed flags of Norway (1821)

  • Proposal 1
    Proposal 1
  • Proposal 2
    Proposal 2
  • Proposal 6
    Proposal 6
  • Proposal 7
    Proposal 7
  • Proposal 8
    Proposal 8
  • Proposal 10
    Proposal 10
  • Proposal 11 (version 1)
    Proposal 11 (version 1)
  • Proposal 11 (version 2)
    Proposal 11 (version 2)
  • Proposal 11 (version 3)
    Proposal 11 (version 3)
  • Proposal 13
    Proposal 13
  • Proposal 14
    Proposal 14
  • Proposal 15
    Proposal 15
  • Proposal 16
    Proposal 16
Article(s)
Flag of Norway
Request
Could someone please create SVG files of the above proposals for the flag of Norway from 1821. More information on them can be seen on this page here. Thanks. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 17:57, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinions
@Snow Lion Fenian:
Other source images can be found at Forslag til flagg, for year 1821. Those are same images, but with layout paper for color expectation. En rouge (talk) 19:33, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I think that the second (2nd) proposal can simply be made by taking the flag of the Dominican Republic (or "Santo Domingo") and removing the coat of arms. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 06:39, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Request taken by En rouge (talk) 22:17, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

to be progressively completed...
@Snow Lion Fenian:
before completing ornaments on flags, please tell me if you have some comments/requirements, essentially about aspect ratio, line width, colors, or...
yours, En rouge (talk) 02:17, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@En rouge: Those all seem nicely in order, thank you for doing this. I'd say it's okay to go ahead and add the extra symbols on each one. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 15:43, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

213.192.68.53, 10 September 2021

two comments
- 10 doesn't use this strange color, but only yellowed material.
- 14 does not present Scandinavian cross, only a very thick Saint George's Cross

— 213.192.68.53 — end
— En rouge edit, moved from above:

— Moved gallery posted by @213.192.68.53:  :
  • right lion to most flags, but on some he shouldn't have a crown and the golden ax
    right lion to most flags, but on some he shouldn't have a crown and the golden ax
  • Lion for 7, the ax should be larger and the tail is different
    Lion for 7, the ax should be larger and the tail is different
  • crown for 8 and 16, jewels must be gilded
    crown for 8 and 16, jewels must be gilded
  • the lion most similar to the 15, also the wrong tail
    the lion most similar to the 15, also the wrong tail
— 213.192.68.53 — end

— end of En rouge edit

@213.192.68.53: , please, can you give references for your arguments :
  • for 10: yellow rather than olive (as seen in 04 & (ref.1)
but in (ref.1), we can see differences between mast color (yellow-ish) and flag color (olive-ish)... what are your sources?
but I can agree with you, as for #10, I think viewed-black is blue instead, but I have no source...
I think it's the same (blue instead of black) for 6 & 7 (painted source images give me this feeling), as well as 10 perhaps ;
14 seems really be black (but I've got no other source than the given paper painted flags copy)
  • for 14: do you mean the cross is centered ? do you have a source ?
  • and/or other sources ?
  • for lion's tail, what's the problem ?
the main issue can be inward or outward... whatever the painting/display/rendering...
no?
all pictures are lion-ward (i.e. outward), rather than leopard-ward (inward)
so, what do you mean ?

thanks En rouge (talk) 00:17, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@En rouge: Given the lack of sources (or indeed responses) from the other User, I think it may be best to proceed with adding the extra symbols to the flags in the best way you see fit yourself. If you're still up for it of course? Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 18:00, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 05:40, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hunza

  • correct flag
    correct flag
  • correct coat of arms
    correct coat of arms

Article(s): en:Hunza (princely state)

request(s)

1 request is a restore of the old version of incorrect flag [7] sources:[8] [9] [10] ✓ Done

2 request is the addition of the Mir standard [11], which also requires an emblem.

I have not found a reliable source with the correct image of the coat of arms, but it was certainly a lion holding flag, with a ribbon on the mast with the word Hunza state and inscription above the flag [12] [13], most likely no formal draft exists.

standard name ,,Flag of Mir of Hunza`` coat of arms name ,,Emblem of Hunza (Kanjut)``

213.192.68.53 12.7.2021

Graphist opinion(s)


Emblem of Bombay State, Vindhya Pradesh and Goa, Daman and Diu

  • Emblem of Vindhya Pradesh
    Emblem of Vindhya Pradesh
  • Emblem of Bombay State
    Emblem of Bombay State
  • Emblem of Goa, Daman and Diu
    Emblem of Goa, Daman and Diu
  • Emblem of India.svg
    Emblem of India.svg

Article(s): w:Vindhya Pradesh w:Bombay State w:Goa, Daman and Diu

Request
please vectorize emblem of Bombay State, Vindhya Pradesh and Goa, Daman and Diu.

213.192.68.53 1.8.2021

Graphist opinion(s)

New version of File:Nuvola Nordic flags.svg

  • Replace the flag of the Faroe Islands in this image with the flag of Finland
    Replace the flag of the Faroe Islands in this image with the flag of Finland
  • The flag of Finland
    The flag of Finland
  • new SVG  Done
    new SVG ✓ Done

Article(s): en:Template:User Nordic cinema task force and en:Template:WikiProject Film

Request
Make a new edited version of File:Nuvola Nordic flags.svg by replacing its flag of the Faroe Islands with the flag of Finland , so then it has all five flags of the five Nordic countries.
The new image would replace the Nordic cinema task force's image in the templates User Nordic cinema task force and WikiProject Film. --85.23.79.231 14:10, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion(s)

Not a graphist. Is this not done one purpose to exclude Finland which is culturally different from the other countries? I feel such a request should be to make a new image and not to overwrite the previous one. Veverve (talk) 01:24, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's what I meant with the "new edited version", sorry if the request wasn't clear enough. It can be named something like File:Nuvola Nordic flags v2.svg or File:Nuvola Nordic countries flags.svg. 85.23.79.231 11:13, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bump. Is this too hard? If it is, it's a bummer, because only images of the five Nordic flags in one picture are photos that don't work that well as logos in reduced sizes. Well, I found this File:Vlajky severskych zemi.png but I'm afraid that it's too wide. --85.23.79.231 14:43, 29 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done --Mrmw (talk) 14:10, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

File:SE1999Aug11T.png

Article(s): ru:Солнечное затмение 11 августа 1999 года

Request
The map has very old borders, i.e. with two Germanies. 217.117.125.83 11:31, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion(s)
erm.. isnt that normal? i mean for the time the image was made?-LadyofHats (talk) 02:03, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The graphic is dated 2004, but I guess the plotting software was using an old base map. IMO the political borders are scarcely relevant to the purpose of the image. (And I bet we have dozens to hundreds more charts in the series that show eclipses either earlier or later than the period during which the map was correct.)—Odysseus1479 (talk) 02:25, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Vectorize Chinese emblem

  • Chinese emblem from China's State Council Gazette
    Chinese emblem from China's State Council Gazette

Article(s): 中华人民共和国国务院公报 on Wikisource

Request
Please vectorize the Chinese emblem from the State Council Gazette included above. The emblem should have a single red color. --Kanwenjian (talk) 02:35, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion(s)

@Kanwenjian: This looks like it's just the normal Emblem of the PRC which is already on commons... are you looking for something different? Wegates (talk) 19:05, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Wegates: , Wikisource tries to as faithfully reproduce documents as possible, in this case it's that emblem but only in red and white. It's like comparing "File:Coat of arms of the Republic of Vietnam (1967-75) (Variant 1).svg" to "File:Coat of arms of the Republic of Vietnam (1963–1975) (Red).svg", the latter would be usable in Wikisource documents where the coat of arms only appears in red like the above. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 21:13, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Wegates: , yes please I would like the emblem but only in red and white (or transparent for the white parts). Kanwenjian (talk) 07:35, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Flag of Jaipur

Article: w:Jaipur State

Request
Please correct the colors for darker ones, obtaining such intense colors was impossible in that era and it's darker today too.

- Today's flag looks like this [14] (today Maharaja's family uses a different color arrangement), the appearance of the flag in British times is difficult to determine, but such saturated colors are unbelievable, because they cannot be obtained with natural dyes. There were actually more flags, here in the best quality I have found (flag 1922 - 1946 is wrong, green should be in the middle, others are good).

-213.192.68.53 15:21, 10 10 2021

Graphist opinion(s)

Please provide a relevant source for what the colors should look like. Auguel (talk) 21:47, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Request taken by En rouge (talk), 2021-11-04

@213.192.68.53: colors modified at your request and your provided "flickr" link. Your link to "worldstatesmen.org" cannot be considered as images expose full range RGB values, invalid for dyes. yours, En rouge (talk) 22:13, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Half done as @213.192.68.53: must confirms that colors from "flickr" link are OK for both antic flags (to validate these colors).
yours, En rouge (talk) 22:13, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
PS: @213.192.68.53: , please create an account, to be able to notify you of any solve, of any problem, thanks, En rouge (talk) 22:13, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I think we didn't understand each other, do as it is in the links, shades of colors, sorry. -213.192.68.53, 11 11 2021

Add curved text to circular SVG

  • Add text to this SVG...
    Add text to this SVG...
  • ...using this as a reference.
    ...using this as a reference.
  • 1961
    1961
  • 1972
    1972

Article(s): Oakland, California

Request
Add text to SVG.
Please add text to the SVG using the PNG as a reference (clearer image here). If you want to, feel free to make any other fixes as you see fit. --– Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 20:53, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion(s)


Vector diagrams for linear patterns of the skin

  • Langer's lines
    Langer's lines
  • Dermatomes
    Dermatomes

Article(s): en:Langer's lines, en:Blaschko's lines, en:Dermatome (anatomy)

Request
I think it would be nice to have standardized vector images for the three common linear patterns of the skin (i.e., Langer's lines, Blaschko's lines, and dermatomes). This article has diagrams of all three of them, but you may want to look at several images for each because there's some variability between different representations.
As far as the styles of the illustrations, the format of side-by-side anterior and posterior views is the most common.
From a scientific standpoint, one important consideration to remember is that Langer's lines represent a vector field of skin tension, while Blaschko's lines and dermatomes are used to demarcate particular segments of skin. In other words, for Langer's lines, the lines themselves are what's important, while for Blaschko's lines and dermatomes, it's the segments of skin between the lines that are important. This should influence the choice of coloring style. I think it's going to be too complicated to accurately color Langer's lines and I haven't found any images attempting it, so those don't need to be colored. For the other two, the segments should be colored (we don't even technically need lines between them if the contrast between the colors is enough to see the boundaries between the segments, but I'll defer to your judgement on that). The unique thing about Blaschko's lines is that they have a directionality to them, from back to front (i.e., wrapping around from spine to navel), from medial to lateral (shoulders to fingers) and from top to bottom (hips to toes). The image here may show the directionality a bit better for the legs. I'm not sure what the best way to show the directionality of the segments will be, but perhaps shading them so the beginning is more saturated than the end. Dermatomes should be filled with color according to the level of the nerves innervating them, as shown here.
Thanks, and happy to discuss further. --Rob Hurt (talk) 00:10, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion(s)

 Request taken by --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 15:10, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt: I will really need your help all the way here. So you want three different images each representing different lines; Langer's lines, Blaschko's lines, and dermatomes. So first we will have to find a body illustration that can be used for them all. After that I will check more into each and will for sure have questions. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 15:10, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Base bodies

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@Rob Hurt:
@Goran tek-en: No problem. Yes, let's do three separate images. I think that image is good, but it might be nice to have one with feet pointed down so you can see the top and bottom, and with no hair on the head. There are a few sex differences, but let's use a gender-neutral body for simplicity. Rob Hurt (talk) 18:33, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt:
  • Will it not be hard to have gender-neutral body when doing Langer's lines (haven't checked for the others), to my understand they are following the topographic of a body.
  • I have started to make SVG version of this file:Human Body.jpg because I thought we could do both woman and man, I know it's more work but will it not be better?
  • For the feet, do you mean like those two: top, bottom. That will mean the bodys will be like floating in the air. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 21:14, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en: I would be ok with doing either both or gender neutral. In all cases, I'm remembering that these don't need to have the accuracy of a medical textbook, but are more for the public to get a general understanding of the concepts. So I would be inclined to air on the side of simplicity and interpretability even at the cost of some accuracy, but that's just my opinion. And yes, floating in the air like here. --Rob Hurt (talk) 21:05, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt: Yes, I will not over do it (try to). The image you linked to is that the Langer's lines? --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 15:32, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en: I certainly appreciate the attention to detail, and I think we'll have to decide what compromises to make. In order, these are Langer's lines, dermatomes, and Blaschko's lines. --Rob Hurt (talk) 16:11, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt: Before I continue I want to check how you want the bodies to look. One is lines and one is shaded for the volume (I know, too much details.) Tell me which you want or maybe both because ones I have made the bodies and the three different lines it's quite easy to move between the two versions.
@Goran tek-en: I think these look good, and the shaded one perhaps looks a bit more professional, as long as those colors don't end up conflicting with the colors used for the skin lines. I'm in favor of making the illustrations look professional though. Do you have the back of the body too? --Rob Hurt (talk) 17:30, 1 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt: Thanks, yes I have back and front back of male also. I will be back when I have done them all (bodies), might take a while. Of course I will see to so the lines will be visible. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 18:12, 1 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Rob Hurt: Now I finally have the drafts for the bodies, sorry it took so long.

We now (if those are fine with you) have to decide how you want the bodies:
1 Standing all four in one image, A
2 Standing all four in one image but half-half bodies so they would become two, like the images you linked to at the top
3 Lying female respectively male in each image, C and D
4 3 but as half-half and then we can have them without an offset
5 Or any other version you want
To really see their real sizes you would have to download them and look at them in a software that tells the level of zoom.
I think like this, most screens are in landscape and I try to keep the height of images to a maximum of 1 000 px. The 1 000 px is something I assume many screens can view (in a browser window) without having to scroll, to view the whole image. To be able to view as much details as possible I try to keep to this. It's always a problem as you don't know how an image will be consumed but the main target here is within an article at wikipedia but I always try to make them work as a free standing image which can be used in different places and circumstances, this is of course impossible but I try.
So give me feed back and we discuss how to set them up, thanks. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 19:31, 10 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Goran tek-en: I think these look great, and my preference is A. You're making these as vector images, right, so we can arbitrarily adjust the scaling at any point? The more I think about it, the more I think that we should also have a gender-neutral version, just in case someone ever wants to use these images in a classroom or a news article. --Rob Hurt (talk) 21:30, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt:
  • Sorry for not being clear, it's SVG I work in, the drafts are PNG due to rendering limitations where I show my drafts.
  • So they can be scaled to what ever one wants. But, this is in theory and technically. From a view point line thickness, spaces, relationship of stuff has to be edited when scaling much, both up and down. It's the same as text, a 20 pt (or px or what you use) sentence which is scaled to e.a. 180 pt has to be edited letter by letter (the distance between them) to look good.
  • A gender-neutral version is something we will have to discuss after female, male is completed. I have some reservations and points of opinion there.
  • Could you link me to a few of the best images you know of regarding Langer's lines, thanks. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 12:25, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt: I have now uploaded the base bodies as a separate file Female-male front-back 3d-shaded human illustration. Could you please check the information on it and especially the credit part with you. Do you want it in any other way just tell me, thanks. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 15:45, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en: I think that file looks great, and thanks for crediting me too. I think it could also be worth posting separate versions of the male and female bodies in case someone wants to use only one of them for something specific. --Rob Hurt (talk) 18:27, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt Yeas I think so too, will do in time. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 18:45, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt Look at Female-male front-back 3d-shaded human illustration and Other versions, there are the versions I created. I also think I will create a Gallery for those, I'm learning about it as I intend to create some for "image sets" I have created.
I have made a change which I hope you approve. I made the female and male the same height, this so when they are used they will work well together e.g. Langer's lines. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 13:20, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Langer's lines

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Rob Hurt, Could you link me to a few of the best images you know of regarding Langer's lines, thanks. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 11:51, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Goran tek-en: Sure, here are a few. I think this, this, this and this (https://media.springernature.com/lw785/springer-static/image/chp%3A10.1007%2F978-3-319-26594-0_154-1/MediaObjects/76725_0_En_154-1_Fig1_HTML.gif) should be your references because they are based on the experimental data. But for the ease of interpretability, this, this, this, and this are illustrated in a more viewer-friendly way. --Rob Hurt (talk) 18:27, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt I hope you don't get tired of all my questions. I will here describe how I'm thinking around this and if there is something you don't agree with please let me know.
When I look at your linked images and others I searched for, it confuses me. The lines and the patterns they create are so different in the images. The way they follow the body and how. It also varies depending how close (detailed) they show them. So depending on how large, detailed the illustration is the more or less lines are used. It also seems to me that there is not a fix distance between the lines, within a specific illustration, they vary over the body.
To me, the way they are drawn more looks like tattoos than lines following the body.
So I'm thinking like this, imagine you use a string e.g. clothesline with a diameter and you glue that on the body where the lines exist. This also gives me the possibility to show that the lines actually follow the body around the edges to the back.
  • This is the way how I have drawn the drafts. Look at this draft which is in 400% and hopefully you will see what I mean. To me, this looks much better as an illustration but I'm not sure it's acceptable for you.
  • The drafts I will show you (not the final version) will look like those. As always they are PNG but the original file is SVG.
The difference to the final version is that I manually have edited the lines where they go around the body. It's not that visible directly but indirectly it gives you a better illustration, and that you can sense.
I actually would see that we could find a way so that the image size could be like the 200% drafts, but will see. Feedback before I continue, thanks. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 16:02, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt Do you have the possibility to respond to the above, thanks. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 11:22, 22 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en Just to clarify, you want to decide whether the lines should be 3D and sit on top of the skin like string, or 2D and just mark the surface? I think that 2D would be better, because it makes it clearer that the lines are actually part of the skin itself (even though we can't see them with our eyes). They represent the direction of skin tension which is continuous, so you could draw infinitely many lines to represent it. I think for this purpose we should just make sure that the lines are reasonably accurate, and that we don't put so many that the image has more visual complexity than it needs to. Rob Hurt (talk) 21:22, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt Thanks for your explanation, I will do what you think is best for the purpose of those illustrations. In my "world" (I see most things as an image, which I want to be as beautiful as possible) I would prefer 3D but this request is yours and you know best what you need.
Rob Hurt
Rob Hurt
Those drafts are PNG versions of the original SVG file I'm working in and will upload to commons.
Those drafts are for proofreading only.
I need you to check if the lines ar OK like this in numbers, shapes etc. Please ignore them sticking out here and there, I will fix that ones you have approved them.
If it's fine with you I would like to do one version lying, like this
Looking at the different existing images confuse me a bit as they are so different in how the lines are drawn, so I had to guess a lot and go by my feeling. Feedback thanks. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 18:23, 24 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en I think the density of lines is good, but I might change the color a bit to make them stand out against the skin a bit more. I realize that one of the illustrations (as opposed to the original anatomical images) oversimplified the lines, and they aren't quite right the way you have them. I think this image is the most correct, and I would use that as your guide. You can compare it to the others if you want: if the face is difficult to see in that image, this and this should help, and for the body this may help. You can also find other images, but they should generally agree with the first image. Rob Hurt (talk) 00:05, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt
You should check the number of lines and how they are drawn. The color and how visible they are we can fine tune ones they are fine.
Thanks for telling me "which image is the most correct" as all the versions are so confusing, much appreciated.
The ears are difficult in this scale. If you also can accept the lying ones there we have some more room to fine tune if necessary.
The reason I choose to show the lines like this is because you wrote "that the lines are actually part of the skin itself", but as I said this can be changed later.
As the female breasts are drawn differently in the images I have looked at I have two versions for you to look at.
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Those drafts are PNG versions of the original SVG file I'm working in and will upload to commons.
Those drafts are shown for proofreading only.
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@Rob Hurt Added a second ear version. Disregard that the lines are "sticking out", that will be fine tuned ones approved.
@Goran tek-en For the breast, I think these lines are the most correct, which is close to what you have in version 2. For the ears, I think we need to fix the base body's anatomy before fixing the lines--can you make it look more like the ear shown here? Rob Hurt (talk) 21:01, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt You didn't say anything about the other drafts and the lines so I assume that you have approved them.
Ears:
Breasts:
@Goran tek-en These look good, though I don't think there should be a line on the nipple itself. For the ears, I think we're missing some of the structures (at least antihelix, cymba, cavum, and helix crus), as well as a definition of where the upper part of the tragus meets the helix crus. The rest of the body looks good though. Rob Hurt (talk) 18:03, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt I will add as good as I can but we don't have that kind of details for other parts of the body, especially when you consider how big an ear is and in this scale, drafts in 100%. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 19:56, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt New ear drafts
@Goran tek-en Great, this looks much better. Rob Hurt (talk) 16:57, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Rob Hurt

@Goran tek-en I think this looks great. Rob Hurt (talk) 23:28, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt Then we can start to decide how the lines should appear, meanwhile I will start with the other versions.
The lines can be in any color, thickness and opacity.
I prefer the "overlay" version as here the appearance of the lines are affected by what the body below looks like, in this way the lines becomes more of a part of the body. The grey lines are like rigid and apart of the body, to me. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 10:30, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en I think the thickness looks good, and are you saying that the opacity for the overlay is less than the other? Can you do the gray or a black or blue with slightly more transparency? Rob Hurt (talk) 18:16, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Rob Hurt
Those drafts are PNG versions of the original SVG file I'm working in and will upload to commons.
Those drafts are shown for proofreading only.
The ones I call "overlay" is a "Blend mode" between objects on top of each other, it doesn't specifically has to do with opacity. The top object changes its appearance depending on how light/bright the object below it is.
@Goran tek-en I think the lines look great. Now should we consider adding a gender-neutral version as well? For the color, I like the grey 100 the most out of the ones shown because it's very easy to see. The others may look a bit more natural, but for the purposes of a medical illustration like this, I think the most important thing is the information. What do you think? Rob Hurt (talk) 18:35, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt
1) You are the requester and if you say 50 grey 100 is the best for your purpose then we go for that. We can always add another version if wished.
I will need the following;
  • Name of the file
  • Description (/language)
  • Captions/s (/language)
  • Category/ies at commons
  • Structured data/Items portrayed in this file, the Q#.
to be able to upload it at commons. For the different versions it's mostly the name which changes I guess.
2) Gender-neutral version
This is difficult for me. Please remember that English is not my native language.
  • To me we have female and male genders with all possible variations in between, it's not absolutely female or male, it's all variations in between.
  • To not show what we can (all variations) look like is to me to try to "oppress" or "disregard facts" and trying to influence other human beings.
  • How would a "gender-neutral version" look like, which parts is the problem? I think if you ask all the different cultures, religions, country systems, all other groups etc you would get very different answers. So I guess what would be left is an outline contour with flat fill color and how could one depict Langer's lines on that.
So at this time I will not create a "gender-neutral version" for this purpose. I really hope for your understanding so we can continue with your request here. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 12:10, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en
  • Names: "Langer's lines_male" and "Langer's lines_female" or just "Langer's lines" if you're going to post a version with both
  • Description: Langer's lines represent the direction of skin tension.
  • Caption: Artist's depiction of Langer's lines present in the skin of a human male. -or- Artist's depiction of Langer's lines present in the skin of a human female.
  • Categories: Langer's lines‎
  • Q1591425
I probably should have explained it a bit differently, because we might be talking about two different things. To me, gender-neutral would be the opposite of "all variations in between"--it would actually be the absence of any male/female/in-between information while preserving only the information that is common to both/all (to the best of our ability). This would be done not for the purpose of educating people about gender, but instead for the purpose of educating a wider audience of people about Langer's lines, because there are some contexts in which images like this would be less likely to be used for fear of censorship (I was thinking news articles and some classrooms, though of course not in medical contexts). In those cases, I wanted to give people an option to still use a version that they are comfortable with instead of none at all.
I wanted to explain my view here in case it helps, but if it doesn't resonate with you, then I certainly won't want you to make any illustrations that you disagree with. Rob Hurt (talk) 18:10, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Rob Hurt Now you can find them here; Langer's lines‎ 3D shaded true SVG. If you don't see any problems there this part should be ✓ Done

  • For the "gender-neutral version" I'm struggling. If you search for "Androgynous human body illustration" there is not much difference to them and what we have, the genital parts are toned down in the ones we have here already. I do understand your point but to me the people censoring stuff like this is living in a world which I don't want to be a part of. And it will be so hard to decide how to look e.g. would male breasts be fine but not female breasts etc. Can we leave it for now and return later on.

Blaschko's lines

Can you give me a short explanation and link to images which you say is representative for what you want. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 19:02, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Goran tek-en Unlike Langer's lines, Blaschko's lines and dermatomes aren't real lines, but instead the regions of skin between the lines are derived from the same embryonic cell (Blaschko's) or are innervated by the same sensory neurons (dermatomes). This means that there is a correct density of lines for both, unlike for Langer's lines. I think this and this are the best images, but here is another. For dermatomes we definitely will want to shade the skin in between lines like here, and technically the same would be appropriate for Blaschko's lines, but we can decide if that will be too visually overwhelming or not. Rob Hurt (talk) 18:34, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt Thanks, why are the lines/areas different left and right side of the belly part in the front view? Should they not be more similar? --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 14:48, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en That's to demonstrate that the lines are slightly different for each person because of stochasticity during embryonic development--it's actually the same phenomenon that causes stripes on zebras, spots on cats, etc. which aren't identical from one individual to the next and aren't perfectly symmetrical within an individual. In general they should follow the same pattern on both sides, but there is some randomness. Rob Hurt (talk) 23:10, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Corrections to erroneous map files

Article(s): Roughly 20 articles across quite a few language editions of wikipedia

Request
Corrections to erroneous map files
See Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Maps of the Trans-Mississippi Theater of the American Civil War for an enumeration of the most major error. A good example image for the Price's Raid corrections is File:Price's Raid.png. Ping me for any questions - I'm not super active on Commons, but if I get pinged then enwiki will send me a notification. Hog Farm (talk) 05:35, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Proposed flag of Cyprus (1959)

Article(s): Flag of Cyprus

Request
Will someone please create an SVG file of the proposed national flag for Cyprus from 1959, which is described (but not shown) on this page here as consisting of "a white field with a large, rust-brown K, the first letter in the name 'Cyprus' both in Turkish and Greek." Thanks. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 10:42, 30 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion(s)
@Snow Lion Fenian: ✓ Done --Mrmw (talk) 14:34, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Mrmw: Terrific work, and thanks as always for your help. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 15:02, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Customs flags - Taiwan

  • Please revert to 2010 version
    Please revert to 2010 version
  • I need this yellow-green one
    I need this yellow-green one

Article(s): en:List of Chinese flags

Request
Please revert to 2010 version, there is another file with this image, but with the correct name (File:Ensign of the Chinese Maritime Customs Service.svg). I need this yellow-green one.

213.192.68.53 31.10.2021

Graphist opinion(s)
Picture shows unused today Ensign of the Chinese Maritime Customs Service already existing under the correct name here. The file used to show the correct flag, as indicated by its description. 213.192.68.53 23.11.2021


Union flag folding GIF

  • American flag folding GIF
    American flag folding GIF
  • Union flag (long 1:2 ratio)
    Union flag (long 1:2 ratio)
  • Union flag (normal 3:5 ratio)
    Union flag (normal 3:5 ratio)

Article(s): e.g. en:Flag of the United Kingdom etc.

Request
GIF for folding the British flag (Sorry if this isn't the right board for animations – please advise)
Make a GIF of the Royal Navy procedure for folding the Union flag, as explained: here for a coffin pall-type long version (1:2), as exemplified by the existing American example. If possible, also make a GIF for the folding of a more typical 3:5 flag. GPinkerton (talk) 10:44, 10 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Signature

Article(s): Tejashri Pradhan

Request
Please vectorize this signature. Also make its resolution similar to other signatures in English Wikipedia. Eevee01 (talk) 14:22, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion(s)

✓ Done - Gabuxae (talk) 19:04, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The seal of Lê Thánh Tông

  • Original seal
    Original seal

Article(s): Lê dynasty

Request

Why don't ya vectorize the seal? --Baokhang48812002 (talk) 23:52, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Breton district flags

  • Pays de Baud
    Pays de Baud
  • Bidar
    Bidar
  • Chtou
    Chtou
  • Coglais
    Coglais
  • Presqu'île de Crozon
    Presqu'île de Crozon
  • Fisel
    Fisel
  • Pays de Loudéac
    Pays de Loudéac
  • Pays Mitaud
    Pays Mitaud
  • Plougastel
    Plougastel
  • Porhoët
    Porhoët

Article(s): List of Breton flags

Request
Can someone please create SVG files of the flags of the following traditional districts of Brittany:
  1. Pays de Baud
  2. Bidar
  3. Chtou
  4. Coglais
  5. Presqu'île de Crozon
  6. Fisel
  7. Pays de Loudéac
  8. Pays Mitaud
  9. Plougastel
  10. Porhoët

Thanks. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 19:05, 24 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s)
@Snow Lion Fenian: ✓ Done --Mrmw (talk) 20:40, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Mrmw: That's perfect, and thanks so much for all your hard work on all these files. I do appreciate it greatly. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 20:09, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Flag of Bulgaria (1948, 3-2)

  • Flag of Bulgaria (3-2)
    Flag of Bulgaria (3-2)
  • Coat of arms of Bulgaria (1948)
    Coat of arms of Bulgaria (1948)
  • Flag of Bulgaria with Coat of Arms (1948)
    Flag of Bulgaria with Coat of Arms (1948)

Article(s): Flag of Bulgaria

Request
Please create File:Flag of Bulgaria (1948, 3-2).svg, it should be File:Flag of Bulgaria (3-2).svg with File:Coat of arms of Bulgaria (1948).svg placed on the top-left on the white band like this one. ColorfulSmoke (talk) 13:03, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion(s)
✓ Done Please let me know if you would like further edits. 00sier (talk) 20:24, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Another set of Breton district flags

Article(s): List of Breton flags

Request
Alright, similar to my last request, could someone please create SVG files of the following flags, which also represent traditional districts within Brittany:
  1. Clos Poulet
  2. Vignoble Nantais
  3. Vendelais
  4. Vannetais Oriental
  5. Pays Pourlet
  6. Poudouvre
  7. Plinn
  8. Penthièvre
  9. Penn Sardin
  10. Pays Rouzig
  11. Pays de Lorient
  12. Pays de la Mée

Thanks. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 19:50, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Flags of Bulgaria

  • 1946–1948
    1946–1948
  • 1948
    1948
  • 1948–1967
    1948–1967
  • 1967–1971
    1967–1971
  • 1971–1990
    1971–1990
  • 1946–1948, 3-2
    1946–1948, 3-2
  • 1948, 3-2
    1948, 3-2
  • 1948–1967, 3-2
    1948–1967, 3-2
  • 1967–1971, 3-2
    1967–1971, 3-2
  • 1971–1990, 3-2
    1971–1990, 3-2
  • 1946–1948
    1946–1948
  • 1948
    1948
  • 1948–1967
    1948–1967
  • 1967–1971
    1967–1971
  • 1971–1990
    1971–1990

Article(s): Flag of Bulgaria

Request
Please update the Bulgarian flags with the current version of the Coats of arms. ColorfulSmoke (talk) 13:25, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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