Talk:2014 Dijon attack: Difference between revisions

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==Describing thatthe UCL academic article==
I added the following to the page" "The attack is described by Emily Corner and Paul Gil, both of University College London, in their 2017 article, [https://ctc.usma.edu/posts/is-there-a-nexus-between-terrorist-involvement-and-mental-health-in-the-age-of-the-islamic-state ''Is there a Nexus Between Terrorist Involvement and Mental Health in the Age of the Islamic State?''"] This article ''lists'' all attacks by Islamic extremists in Europe that the authors could discover that had taken place between May 2014 and September 2016. But it ''discusses'' and ''describes the details of'' only a few of those attacks. The discussion of this 2014 attack in Dijon is one of the lengthier descriptions in the article, a very interesting analysis of assertions made by authorities and/or by the media and by acquaintances of sundry attackers and the complexity of attributing causaiton to mental illness and to ideological inspiration. User:Pincrete, your recent change from "described" to "listed" is inaccurate and misleading. I reverted it. If you read the article, you will understand why I use describe and reverted "listed".[[User:E.M.Gregory|E.M.Gregory]] ([[User talk:E.M.Gregory|talk]]) 14:03, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 
:[[User:E.M.Gregory|E.M.Gregory]], [https://ctc.usma.edu/posts/is-there-a-nexus-between-terrorist-involvement-and-mental-health-in-the-age-of-the-islamic-state having read the document], I find only a single 'mention' of Dijon: ''on December 21, 2015, an unnamed 40-year-old ran over 11 pedestrians across the city of Dijon, France, while shouting “Allahu akbar,” claiming he was “acting on behalf of the children of Palestine,” and brandishing a knife. Police knew the assailant for previous minor offenses, and he had spent time in psychiatric services. Due to the psychiatric history of the assailant, authorities deemed the attack not to be an act of terrorism''. This is less info than our lead, and only slightly longer than the description of their 'research' quoted by you.
 
:If they say anything of note about Dijon, why is what they say about it, (rather than the mere fact that they say ''something''), not in the article? Their only 'reference' is a BBC article on which they base their 'conclusions'. Nowhere is anything said about Dijon which is not sourced ''(by them)'' to a standard BBC news item ''(their footnote 48)''. [[User:Pincrete|Pincrete]] ([[User talk:Pincrete|talk]]) 15:07, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
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