Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Television

Discussion at Talk:The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power

I have started a discussion about potentially changing the approach to determining the cast lists for this series at Talk:The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power#Approach to the cast lists. It does not follow the standard Main/Guest/Co-star crediting style so needs a different approach from MOS:TVCAST, and the release of the second season has raised questions about whether the current approach is adequate. Any regular television editors who have thoughts on the best way to determine cast lists for the series are welcome to contribute them at the discussion. Thanks all, adamstom97 (talk) 13:27, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

Seems like this sort of overhaul rewrite happens frequently when a show hits season 2 and things need to be reorganised by long term editors more familiar with the project TV guidelines. Maybe wait until the season is finished and the article settles down and no one is likely to mind? The fact that you asked at all somehow suggests you think it might be contentious but you've started a discussion already so if the change already seems uncontroversial then there would seem to be no need to wait. -- 109.76.194.168 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 23:08, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

I asked for other opinions because it is an unusual situation that doesn't follow the standard process established at MOS:TVCAST. - adamstom97 (talk) 07:50, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia talk:Featured lists § FLs for television seasons

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Featured lists § FLs for television seasons. A discussion regarding whether season articles should go through the GA/FAC or FLC process. TheDoctorWho (talk) 21:45, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television § Released: Airing vs streaming

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television § Released: Airing vs streaming. Editors are still needed to weigh in on this. This is affects the {{Series overview}} and {{Episode table}}. — YoungForever^(talk) 13:28, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

Guidance on characters' names in the plot summary?

Hello all,

Recently was comparing MOS:FILMPLOT and the TV MOS guidance on plot sections and noticed that, while the movie MOS provides guidance on whether or not to include actors' names in the plot summary, this article does not. I don't mind either way, but was just look for some clarity.

Thanks so much! Have a great day!

JuxtaposedJacob (talk) | :) | 19:17, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

MOS:TVPLOT does include this guidance. ("Also avoid information that belongs in other sections, such as actors' names.") It is much less visible than the same sentiment in MOS:FILMPLOT though, and TVPLOT might benefit from emulating FILMPLOT's placement and wording. Dan Bloch (talk) 00:45, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Ahh, I see.

I made the sentence more prominent, but not sure if it should stay exactly like I have it - change it if you feel it could be improved.

Thanks! Have a good day!

JuxtaposedJacob (talk) | :) | 01:21, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Episode Count in Infobox

Quick question because a few of us have disagreed over on Wizards Beyond Waverly Place. Two episodes aired on Disney Channel on October 29. Six hours later the first 9 episodes released on Disney+. Two more episodes aired on DC the next day, and from here on out they'll air weekly. Once caught up, Disney+ is set to release additional episodes only after they air on DC. Most of us agree that DC is the sole original network, despite the early release on D+

The main question: should the Infobox list the 9 that have officially released overall on Disney+, or only the 4 that have broadcast on Disney Channel??? Thanks, TheDoctorWho (talk) 18:07, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

The episode count is based on episodes being released anywhere, not just the original network. The idea is that episodes being produced does not guarantee them being released, so we wait until an episode is released before increasing the count in the infobox. All of the episodes that have been released on Disney+ are confirmed, available, and should be counted in the infobox. - adamstom97 (talk) 18:14, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Agreed with adamstom97 as those nine episodes are already available and can be watch on Disney+ via subscription, so it should be 9 not 4 in the infobox. 𝙹𝚒𝚢𝚊𝚗 忌炎 (𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔) 19:04, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

The point is they have been released and available to the public. Doesn't matter how. They should be counted. Geraldo Perez (talk) 19:19, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

I still say go by when it airs on Disney Channel as it is the only primary network. If not, a note should be included on the infobox next the episode count until all episodes have been aired on Disney Channel. — YoungForever^(talk) 22:07, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

I still fail to see the reason of only counting what's aired on the primary network. If the first 9 were released for free on YouTube before airing on DC, it's still undeniable that those episodes had released. There's also a precedence for this, High School Music: The Musical: The Series listed one episode having aired on the Infobox as early as November 9, when Disney+, it's "only primary network", didn't even launch until November 12. TheDoctorWho (talk) 21:17, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

Agree that it should be only Disne Channel as it is the primary network it started on. This has been done with Raven's Home and a few other shows that were released on Disney Plus later. Magical Golden Whip (talk) 20:44, 6 November 2024 (UTC)