User talk:Nyttend

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Cold weather

The Weather Channel is correct. It's been going on for days, so much so that it was the headline news on CBC the other day. It's made worse by the wind chills they have had as well. Although we are gloating we do feel kind of sorry for them. Its got to be hard when you are not used to it. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 21:35, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Re: "We Three Kings"

Of course I wouldn't mind! Whatever makes the most interesting hook. But thanks for asking me in advance! Cheers! —Bloom6132 (talk) 15:09, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

re:We Three Kings

I'm not in favour of that because it does seem a bit less hooky compared to the others. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 15:11, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

NRHP in Cincinnati

There is a long-standing rivalry between the east and west sides of Cincinnati. While Vine Street is generally accepted as being the dividing line (Cincinnati Enquirer cartoonist Jim Borgman famously likened Vine Street to the Berlin Wall [1]), the line is sometimes blurred. Clifton, the location of many fine homes on the NRHP, is west of Vine Street but I wouldn't consider Clifton to be culturally a west side neighborhood. It's 'central' (or perhaps northern as the relevant section puts it, for lack of a better term).

So there's no easy answer to your proposal. But still, there are ways we can improve the current system.

There is no "east side" or "west side" to Over-the-Rhine. It's so close to Downtown Cincinnati, that all properties located in OTR should appear in the downtown section. You could even rename that page 'NRHP in downtown Cincinnati and Over-the-Rhine' if necessary. Even better, create a separate page 'NRHP in Over-the-Rhine' listing all of the many individual properties there.

In summary, I think the system should stay mostly as it is as not to further complicate and polarize an already divided city. - Gilliam (talk) 00:10, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Saint-Séverin ceiling

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Voûte de l'église Saint-Séverin à Paris.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Armbrust The Homunculus 07:32, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Reply and thx at DYK

Hi @Nyttend - thanks for the review - the hook fact is mentioned here "The Amaravati or Elliot Marbles have been compared with the beauty of the Elgin Marbles, but unlike the Greek sculptures, the ownership of them has not been contested." with the reference here.

Could be that the hook doesn't work as it relies of readers seeing "Elliot Marbles" as similar to "Elgin Marbles". If so then we could find an alt. Victuallers (talk) 14:09, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Re template W

I noticed the problem you describe at User talk:Legoktm/December 2013#TFA Protector Bot question, and changed {{W}} to fix the problem, temporarily at least until user:TFA Protector Bot is enhanced by user:Legoktm, or some serious problem is encountered by having {{W}} perform the same as it does on other wiki projects. John Vandenberg ^(chat) 02:29, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the note, and thank you more for the edit. I've added a comment to your statement, in hopes that it will demonstrate the chaos that results when {{w}} redirects to {{welcome}}, and thus in hopes that people won't put it back to being a redirect. Nyttend (talk) 03:14, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Walnut Hills United Presbyterian Church

Thanks for your article about the Walnut Hills United Presbyterian Church. (I recall how upset my father was when it was torn down.)

I appreciate your effective input to Cincinnati articles, and keep it coming.

You have been hereby awarded the barnstar of Cincinnati.- Gilliam (talk) 07:08, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Talkback

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And at Template:Did you know nominations/Julián Ladera. Thanks, Matty.007 16:01, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Active Pen

Hi Nyttend, should I remove the resubmit template at the top of the page at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Active Pen in consideration of your submission of it on the user's behalf? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:12, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

I really haven't a clue. I did this simply to ensure that it had been submitted; I'm unfamiliar with the AFC process, and for all I know, it might already have been submitted some other way. Nyttend (talk) 22:15, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

File:Cumberbatchstagedoor.jpg

Hey, that image is under a false claim of ownership. That user who is now blocked for their edits and sock puppetry uploaded NUMEROUS images of Benedict Cumberbatch all claiming them as their own. This image needs to be deleted immediately. Lady Lotus • talk 00:02, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Here is the link that I used for the other uploads of this image, all of the other images that Fairyspit and the accounts they sockpuppeted have been deleted, this one got lost in the mix I guess but should be deleted. Lady Lotus • talk 12:53, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

That was fast! You're awesome lol thank you so much! Lady Lotus • talk 12:55, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello Nyttend!

You have a new message at Did you know nominations/Julián Ladera. Thanks for your attention. MusiCitizen (talk) 19:29, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Hyphenation of a standard -ly adverb

At John Church Company Building you replaced the useless hyphen after "wholly" that I had removed per WP:HYPHEN, which says "A hyphen is not used after a standard -ly adverb (a newly available home, a wholly owned subsidiary)". You also removed a full stop after "et al", which, according to something like consensus, is prescribed by AWB/Typos, and was discussed last month at WT:AWB/T#Incorrect fix of et al.→et al.., so if you have an issue with that situation, that talk page would be a good place to bring it up. I did not change the citation style, as your edit summary indicated. The tone of the edit summary could also be improved. Chris the speller ^yack 17:53, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

I suggested that you take your complaint about "et al." to WT:AWB/T, yet you brought it to my talk page. I did not originate the rule, did not participate in the discussion about it, and I am not the only AWB user who is likely to find AWB changing "et al" to "et al." inside or outside citations. If you want something done about AWB changing punctuation in citations, then WT:AWB/T is the place to go. Your use of the "Not a typo" template to preserve "wholly-owned" is not in line with the purpose of the template; that template is not intended to enable editors to fly in the face of the MoS and instead impose their personal tastes. You do not seem receptive to any of my suggestions, but, anyway, here is one more: adopt a more cooperative attitude. Chris the speller ^yack 18:23, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Once more...

...You have a new message at Did you know nominations/Julián Ladera. Best, MusiCitizen (talk) 18:37, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

The ideal university article?

You ask hard questions! I don't know of any ideal university articles. Many such articles suffer from overly enthusiastic editing by current students, not to mention university public relations employees. One reasonably good one (based on a very superficial examination) is McMaster University in Canada. I hope that helps! --Orlady (talk) 05:09, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Question

	Question
	I would like to discuss the Wikipedia page concerning archaeological sites on the National Register in Indiana. Please call me Cathy Draeger-Williams at 317 234 3791 or email at cdraeger-williams@dnr.in.gov. IDNRDHPA (talk) 19:45, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

ANI problem

I have just placed a nowiki note around some sample text you placed on this board as it was suppressing the remainder of the page. However it has replaced four tildes you used to sign with my signature not yours. I have removed my signature with an edit summary but would invite you to replace your signature in the text. My intention was only to nowiki your sample text and I have no idea why anything else happened. Sorry. Britmax (talk) 22:33, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes, thanks for that, I thought it might be a glitch somewhere. Going to bed now. Britmax (talk) 22:57, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Walnut Hills United Presbyterian Church

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Ray Vance

Do you think he's notable for an article? WhisperToMe (talk) 01:06, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

• Oops. I meant Ray Nance. He's talked about here: Wikipedia:RX#NY Times WhisperToMe (talk) 02:13, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Roman Myth Templates

It was like 2005, I had no idea how to do wiki markup and was most likely drinking heavily at the time. :-) Bacchiad (talk) 04:41, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Do what thou wilt etc. If we're still using those templates I hope someone merges or deletes them for something better soon. Thanks for checking in though. 15:16, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Elias Kumler House

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:03, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Russia

Hi, could you restore my comment, please? It Is Me Here ^{t / c} 12:04, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Copycat?

An unregistered user uses "Nytten" for his name. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Nytten. I'll leave it up to you whether he is a future major contributor but he has held off sufficiently long from registering. Student7 (talk) 17:11, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Folk Mataraman Institute

You know that "Folk Mataraman Institute" is a band and they are pasting their spam all over the Internet? It's also and obvious cut and paste job because their paste stopped in at the beginning of a word. --I am One of Many (talk) 04:24, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Julián Ladera

Hi Nyttend. I've asked a question regarding this DYK nomination at Talk:Main Page#Errors in the current or next Did you know.... Regards, matt (talk) 09:57, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for St. Henry's Catholic Church (Harriettsville, Ohio)

The DYK project (nominate) 01:22, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

File:Annajamesphoto.png

Favor - this file was uploaded by this same user also claiming ownership. Saying he's the guy in the photo but clearly he isn't because if that were the case he would also be the girl that took the photo of Cumberbatch in the previously mentioned photos. Wondering if you could look into that getting deleted too. Thanks LADY LOTUS • TALK 15:07, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Brumback Library

 — Nyttend (talk) 03:20, 13 January 2014 (UTC) 16:52, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Talkback

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The Vatican Splendors AfD

Hello, Nyttend. User:Danny lost (aka trespassers william) wasn't trying to withdraw his nomination of The Vatican Splendors at AfD, he just appears to have run afoul of some technicalities. He says so on his talk page where I asked him what he intended. I'd like to try and salvage the article. I will oppose deletion. What I would like to ask you is: how much longer does the AfD have to run before a decision is made? Thanks for your help! --71.178.50.222 (talk) 21:49, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you again, but did the original article have a talk page? If so, can someone restore it? Thanks, again. --71.178.50.222 (talk) 13:51, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

User subpage deletion needed.

<redacted> looks like a major mistake by a new user. I doubt they wanted to post their cell phone number like that. Should this be deleted? It doesn't meet any CSD criteria that I can find. Thanks. (If this conversation disappears along with it, I'll understand why.) --| Uncle Milty | talk | 23:05, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Redacting the link, but there's no need to destroy the whole thing. I've deleted the page and will attempt to delete the log entry, although I'm not sure that I'll do the right thing. I'll ask for outside input if I make a mistake. Nyttend (talk) 23:08, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

That's probably something you should send to oversight, Nyttend; they know how to nuke things like that. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 23:10, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

I thought of that, but I wasn't sure because this was self-revelation of information. However, since you're suggesting it, I know it's not a crazy idea, so I'll ask them. Nyttend (talk) 23:12, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Ban of user 75.104.131.93

I am on a dynamic IP system, that address has been reassigned, and I created a user account. However, I do not wish to be in violation of the rules. Please lift the ban and I pledge to follow the rules in my quest to see that unnecessary German language translations are removed from English language Wikipedia scientific concept articles.FBitburg (talk) 19:27, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Just FYI...

Your close of the IPBE thread on AN changed the section header for some reason; I've changed it back. Not sure how that happened. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 22:59, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Talkback

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DYK nomination of Fenwick Club

Hello! Your submission of Fenwick Club at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! EagerToddler39 (talk) 23:42, 14 January 2014 (UTC) EagerToddler39 (talk) 23:42, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Note about unblock

• link

Hi. As you've unblocked at your discretion, I've nothing to say on that, and am happy to leave that at your discretion (of course presuming you're an uninvolved admin, something I haven't and probably won't investigate at this time). This is merely for future reference.

While I know it isn't required, it would have been appreciated if you had dropped a note on my talk page that you were going to reverse an admin action. (See also WP:RAAA and WP:EQ.)

And as for the location (the talk page), I would point you to WP:TBAN, which very clearly uses the word "discussions" in its example, and even uses the words: "...and their talk pages." If you feel that TBAN is too vaguely worded, or that you feel I am misinterpreting what is (in my estimation) laid out fairly clearly there, I welcome discussion.

Regardless, as I said this is merely for future reference.

Happy editing : ) - jc37 06:36, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. It's been a long long time since I had any kind of interaction with Bugs or Medeis (I vaguely remember sending TRM a note not long ago), and the last substantial thing I remember saying to Bugs (year or two ago?) was basically "this is your last warning for personal attacks", rather than something that would bias me in his favor. I'm sorry that I didn't notify you as expected; I'd just assumed that you would quickly learn from my note at the WP:AN thread, since you'd started it as a request for input on the situation. No disagreement with your interpretation of WP:TBAN; I was attempting to say that this is a thoroughly different situation. The proposal that you closed as "yes" wasn't at all written as a topic ban from discussing Wikipedia reference desks — the wording indicates a desire to keep them off the desk, a page ban that just got misnamed. This is thus different from a topic ban on weather, which prohibits people from discussing weather on talk pages or non-meteorological articles. Nyttend (talk) 06:54, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments.

And my apologies, I wasn't suggesting you were biased (though I suppose I can see how that could have been interpreted that way), I was merely trying to be thorough in my comment of "leaving it to your discretion".

I went to AN last, after reading my talk page and checking on the status of the block (in case comment was required). I saw that you had unblocked and left you this note above.

And on your point about topic ban vs page ban. I think you've a valid point there. What was being discussed was banning the editors from the pages related to the reference desk, rather than the topic of the reference desk. But just as the proposer apparently overlooked that fine point, so did the closer. (As an aside, I think it's fair to say that in wikipedia parlance shorthand, it's not uncommon to see someone use the phrase "topic ban" when they mean "page ban". But that's little excuse : )

Under normal circumstances, I'd immediately go and clarify the closure (and note it to those affected), but with the 3PO underway, with more than a few questioning the closure itself, I think I'll wait a bit for more input. - jc37 07:29, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

<complicated>Actually, I didn't think you thought I was biased</complicated>; I thought you were basically trying to say "I'm AGF-ing", and I was basically trying to say "You're right, and here's side information in case you care". No need to apologise. I can understand the situation of (<normally would clarify> and <won't now due to contention>); it just seemed that your initial closing statement was all you were planning to say by yourself (i.e. you hadn't left anything out; any modifications would represent a change of mind), so I expected that you meant to say (and were intending to continue saying) that he was restricted specifically from editing the Reference Desk, and then decided by yourself later that the ban ought to go farther than that, doing it of your own accord and not simply because your interpretation of the discussion had changed. Of course I fully understand that you couldn't respond to all of the comments at WP:AN, since they were coming rather fast and quickly together, so I wasn't thinking you were ignoring people's comments. Way past bedtime for me; it's almost 3AM, and I have work at 9AM, so please don't expect any more responses for quite a while. Nyttend (talk) 07:49, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Old College Hill Post Office

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:02, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Valley View DYK

Good morning Nyttend, I know it would be a bit of an inconvenience, but would it be possible to pull Template:Did you know nominations/Valley View (Romney, West Virginia) from the Prep 2 queue and return it to the nominations page? I'm still working to locate an image for the hook, and forgot to note this on the article's nomination template. If this is possible, I'd greatly appreciate it, and I apologize for the trouble. I'll cross post this request with other DYK administrators. Thanks again! -- Caponer (talk) 10:52, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Response

Hi. I responded on my talk page to the query you posted there. --Orlady (talk) 20:32, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

I've responded again -- and even wrote an article about one of the few properties in the county that already had a photo. --Orlady (talk) 23:42, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Rajpurohit

Thank you for handling the Rajpurohit article and for providing clarification on the ANI thread. I had read the 3RR exceptions but I had missed the copyright violation one. I apologize for taking so long to bring up the issue and will handle any copyvio issues more proptly in the future. Thanks again. Ishdarian 03:06, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Archaeology

Sorry to hear that the Tennessee Anthropologist no longer exists, they kindly let me put copies of some articles on the Bat Creek nonsense on my website. Dougweller (talk) 21:54, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Amaravati Marbles

Nyttend, I wanted to let you know that your concerns here appear to have been addressed. Will you be continuing the review, or should I call for another reviewer. Please let me know if the latter. (If the former, I'll see your post there.) Many thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 16:31, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Fenwick Club

Hello! Your submission of Fenwick Club at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! EagerToddler39 (talk) 04:25, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you

Hey. I know I already thanked you for making me a template editor, but just wanted to say I really appreciate it. I had been considering asking for it myself but was afraid I wouldn't qualify based on the guidelines. Not all Wikipedians would be as cordial. I think I'll find it very useful. meteor_sandwich_yum (talk) 05:37, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Henry Powell House

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

A note on the missing listings

Since I noticed you've been adding those missing listings to the county lists, don't forget to update the counts at the state and national lists too. I took care of the Connecticut and Michigan listings already, so don't worry about those. TheCatalyst31 ^{Reaction•Creation} 03:11, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Ah, I didn't realize you were doing it that way. That makes sense. TheCatalyst31 ^{Reaction•Creation} 03:20, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

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Island, Kentucky

I noticed you added a photo of Island, Kentucky that you made yourself. I hope someone told you to visit the Dairy Freeze while you were there. Awesome cheeseburgers, and the only place around here that you can get deep-fried cheddar cheese balls! Acdixon ^{(talk · contribs)} 14:17, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Bummer that you weren't through at the right time to get a good cheeseburger. The Dairy Freeze does have breakfast, but I've never had it there. If you ever happen to be through there again, give it a go. I know how those long drives are, though. I have to do a round trip between my home and Versailles, Kentucky (about 320 miles, total), for work sometimes. Plus, you lose an hour from crossing time zones on the way. Not much that can entice you to stop and make the trip even longer. Were you able to find the Robert Thomas House? Acdixon ^{(talk · contribs)} 19:17, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Lotta history in Russellville. Bet you got some good shots there. Let me know when you get them uploaded. I went there on a picture-taking mission once, but I hadn't done proper research before I went, so I only got a few of the important sites. Bowling Green would be another good place to go. Wish I'd been active on Wikipedia when I was in grad school at WKU; probably could have saved you the trip! I know what you mean about the cold weather. It was a balmy 8 degrees when I got to work this morning. Brr. Acdixon ^{(talk · contribs)} 19:33, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Fenwick Club

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:03, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Complete history merge

I see you merged those histories. Could you merge histories of talk pages aeromobil and Klein Aeromobil as well? Thanks. Alex ^{discussion ★} 01:15, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

No. Let me explain why; it's a technical reason, not some petty refusal on my part. All of the edits I moved to Klein Aeromobil were originally at aeromobil — I deleted both pages, restored the aeromobil edits that I was going to merge, moved them to Klein, and restored the deleted Klein edits. I was originally going to move everything from aeromobil to Klein, and my decision to leave a few behind was intentional. This is because the timestamps overlapped, and as WP:PV says, histmerging some overlapping stuff would produce severe confusion. Let me demonstrate the result by pointing you to a few pages:

• User:Nyttend/pagehistory1
• User:Nyttend/pagehistory2
• User:Nyttend/pagehistory3
• User:Nyttend/pagehistory4
• User:Nyttend/pagehistory5

I created pages 1 and 4 with the original chunk from Demand-Gest House and created pages 2 and 3 with identical text from Jeff Kimball House. I then proceeded to make a few edits to each page, being careful to make the same edit to each pair: I cut the "Preservation" section from each article, and then I cut everything below References. I did nothing more to 3 and 4, while I then performed a complete history merge by moving 1 and 2 to page 5. You can easily see my editing patterns by looking at the histories for pages 3 and 4: everything proceeds in a nice linear fashion, e.g. this diff. However, all the diffs in the history of page 5 are gibberish. Look at this one, for example: my edit summary was "Cutting a chunk", but it looks as if I completely replaced one page with another, and "cutting a chunk" resulted in the article actually gaining 776 characters. My point Any time you have pages with overlapping timestamps, a histmerge is catastrophic. Histmerges are only ever safe when all of the edits at page 1 were made before any of the edits at page 2 were made. Nyttend (talk) 01:35, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

OK, I get your point. But sadly, we're losing this precious revision when DYK was confirmed this way... In my opinion user who renamed Draft:Aeromobil to Klein Aeromobil did it pretty hasty and inappropriately. He should've first merge it with already existent page Aeromobil (at that time tagged with some copyvio tag) and only then rename it at will. (But I still don't see any valid reason for such a rename, as only fewer people will be directed to the desired page.) PS Can I ask you something via email, because I find it somehow private? Cheers, Alex ^{discussion ★} 01:47, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Actually we've not lost any revisions; every revision is visible (i.e. there are no deleted edits in any of the page histories), and this was the revision displayed when it first appeared at DYK. Or are you asking me to merge the talk page histories as well? I'd advise against that: when articles get histmerged, we normally don't move their talk pages. I don't understand why you think the rename was inappropriate or unhelpful: the Draft namespace is only for pages that aren't ready to be articles yet, so if I remember rightly, they're noindexed and thus difficult to find with search engines, but pages in mainspace can easily be found by Google within a few minutes of their creation. Finally, send your email. Nyttend (talk) 01:54, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Done. Check your inbox. Alex ^{discussion ★} 03:19, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Nyttend. You have new messages at Aleksa Lukic's talk page.
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PS If you don't want to leave me your email, you can create a free account on Yahoo or similar site, it's copletely free and anyone can do it, and then you can send me mail anonymously. Regards, Alex ^{discussion ★} 17:41, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Nuclear testing: India, Pakistan and North Korea

The page that you edited (Nuclear testing: India, Pakistan and North Korea) was initially created, by me, in order to hold atomic testing history for those three countries. A few days later I decided it would be best if the data were on three different pages. Someone came along and placed links top those three pages there. I was looking for a way to delete it (I fairly new to file level editing in wiki), and along came another editor who put it under quick-delete. I placed a message on the QD page saying that was perfectly alright with me, then along you come and delete the link top the comments page as well as the quick-delete header. It is not a disambiguation page; it was merely a page with three useless links on it - useless because the reason for the page is gone, and it is an orphan besides. So, why don't you just delete the page and its talk, and we'll all be happy? SkoreKeep (talk) 06:13, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Your assistance please

THis ANI is driving me crazy. i can't even begin to do the edits I've been wanting to do, because i'm so caught up in this. All i know is that i'm being accused of Gaming the IBAN with Chris. And no one other than Verso.Sciolto aren't providing reason at all. And i just want it to end so i can continue editing. I don't understand how my involvement with Sailor Moon has to do with gaming the article. And I've asked time and time again there reasoning, and i've provided a summary plus reasoning....this is exhausting and no one, not the ones casting their votes have provided enough reason. So all i ask is that if someone can clarify where exactly i'm gaming the system by taking advantage of the IBAN?

Keep in mind, i'm not asking you to support me, to oppose me in the current AN discussion, all i ask...is to explain to me where these editors are coming from.Lucia Black (talk) 11:17, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

First off, please note that I didn't check any of the diffs/links when I left my comments early in the discussion; I was simply asking if you'd done anything worthy of immediate sanctions, and since you hadn't, I was saying "I'm not going to pass judgement". More comments as I do a bit of reading. Nyttend (talk) 14:57, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

I can't draw anything useful from the discussion — it's so long and burdened with so much side discussion that it really can't be the basis of anything useful. With that in mind, I've emailed Salvidrim! with a procedural proposal; should he agree, I'll perform it, and should he disagree, I'll come back to trying to help with the current discussion. Nyttend (talk) 15:27, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

As you'll probably see before you read this comment, I've closed everything in the discussion except for the proposal. I just couldn't imagine anything concrete happening from the original thread and its numerous tangents, except for the proposal that you be indefinitely blocked. Since this has a specific goal, I expect it will have a solid result, regardless of whether you end up blocked or whether the block idea is rejected. It's my hope that this will make things far simpler for everyone, including you, and give you a "speedy trial". If I can help in any other procedural matter, or if you want my outside input, let me know and I'll try to help. Nyttend (talk) 04:06, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Fair enough but i'm afraid a lot of points have been ignored by just casting a vote. And as you can see, most editors will be voting out of irritation of me being part of this ANI rather than me actually being disruptive.Lucia Black (talk) 04:12, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

To respond to your initial question, I simply don't understand where people are coming from. I don't understand where you're coming from. I don't really understand anything of this dispute, and the massive discussion didn't help at all. That's why I closed it and immediately reopened the proposal at the end: it was the only thing that could end in you getting sanctions, and it was the only thing that could end in you getting no sanctions. It was the only thing that could end in anything at all! Also please note that I'm not attempting to make this anything more of a vote than normal votes: yes, people are offering input in a "support"/"oppose" type of format, but things like Salvidrim's "Support, Oppose and Neutral" are accepted, and we're going to pay attention to comments made with the votes. Nyttend (talk) 05:15, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Naming conventions

I have looked at the page of the Wikipedia project, and at the website of NRHP. I searched "St. Michael's Catholic Church (Cedar Hill, Tennessee)" on that site, and it immediately corrected it to St Michael's Catholic Church, Cedar Hill, Tennessee". Whoever established the naming convention on the Wikipedia site in the first place was ignorant of (or simply ignored or didn't bother to check) the normal, worldwide convention in naming places (particularly state buildings and churches). It remains incorrect, regardless of some early decision on Wikipedia. Establishing inappropriate forms and styles and then maintaining them happens quite a lot here. And when it happens, it is to the discredit of the encyclopedia. Amandajm (talk) 23:15, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

I searched for "St. Michael's Catholic Church (Cedar Hill, Tennessee)", fully expecting because of the information that you gave, that this would find a page with that name. It didn't. Moreover, it didn't bring up any article on the church itself. It corrected my search to "St Michael's Catholic Church, Cedar Hill, Tennessee".

In other words "St. Michael's Catholic Church (Cedar Hill, Tennessee)" doesn't work on the NRHP website, and therefore the format should be discontinued on Wikipedia. If the Wikipedia article on NRHP promotes this use, then that needs fixing. Someone needs to go through every US church article on Wikipedia and put this inappropriate format to rights.

As I have said before, the location of a building is part of its identity, particularly in the case of a church. It needs fixing.

Amandajm (talk) 01:51, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Nyttend, what I am telling you is: this is a stupid and inappropriate naming convention that does not comply with real-world usage, encyclopedic usage or the way in which churches are listed in the relevant government documents or those of heritage bodies.

Whoever established this on Wikipedia got it wrong in the first place, and it needs to be brought into line. Churches are generally known by the name of their location, along with their saints name. In the case of cathedrals, they are generally just known by their location, unless there are two cathedrals in the town.

You cannot over-ride common sense, common usage and common knowledge with some foolish wikipedia convention that wasn't thought through in the first place, and is now being badly misapplied. Look up a few church websites, find some that include the location, and see how it is done.

I have checked a couple of state capitol buildings and notice Texas State Capitol, not State Capitol (Texas) although both get a result. This example, however, shows how ridiculous the convention is, when misapplied. Churches belong to their location, in the same way as the Texas State Capitol belongs, quite exclusively, to its state. This is the correct way to do it, in the case of every church.

Amandajm (talk) 04:18, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Please go and talk about it on the article's talk page. I don't want a conversation on four pages. Amandajm (talk) 04:35, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Advice on Brockman

Hi Nyttend, I came across this article a little while ago when patrolling recent changes. To me it looks like someone's sandbox. I reverted to what look like the last plausible version, but a new user and IP (possibly the same individual) wants me to wait for them to source it, but in addition to the horrible formatting, it is not close to encyclopedic. What should be done? Thanks. --I am One of Many (talk) 05:34, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

• I just saw your solution, which is great! --I am One of Many (talk) 06:13, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

January 2014

Hello, I'm WilliamJE. I noticed that you recently removed some content from Wirtland (micronation) without explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry: I restored the removed content. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! ...William 17:21, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Have you done something to the page? I'm trying to revert your making it into a redirect but keep getting an error message....William 17:30, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

I've done nothing to the page except for redirecting it. The page has never had substantial coverage in secondary sources, and the AFD was kept because of the interference of sockpuppets. Please do not continue to restore it, and it would be appreciated if you didn't treat me like a vandal. Nyttend (talk) 17:32, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

You made a page into a redirect and started a AFD without an explanation. The template was deserved. As for redirecting the article, it has been opposed by multiple editors. Your administrative functions don't give you the right to do what you did. Start a proper AFD if you want....William 17:38, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

The page is reverted and the AFD tag removed and I'm not a sockpuppet. Your statement 'Please do not continue to restore it' is in clear conflict with WP:BRD but you're an administrator and this is just another case of an administrator not thinking rules apply to them....William 20:40, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Your series of unfounded accusations is the reason for the warning on your talk page. WP:BRD does not apply to spam, and meanwhile I never accused you of sockpuppetry. Just try reading the top of the original AFD before attacking me for things that I didn't say. Nyttend (talk) 22:16, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Unfounded? You have redirected for no reason and when somebody reverted it you vioalated it(and your spam excuse is bs and was never mentioned) started an AFD with no reason for starting it. You're an experienced editor and administrator. Your AFD was incompetent. Take me to ANI....William 22:24, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

You nominated the page for deletion here[2] with a blank AFD page. Then you actually came back and edited it again[3] and neither time did you give an explanation. You made the page[4] a redirect without explanation. Then after someone reverted[5] the redirect you did it again[6] in violation of BRD. When yet another editor calls you on it, you further declare[7] intent to violate BRD or that you WP:OWN that page. You're the editor who should be blocked but that doesn't ever happen to administrators around here....William 23:04, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

William: Another user created that AFD but failed to tag the article. All that Nyttend did was finish up the process that the other user had started. Your persistence on attacking an administrator for taking care of some of the grunt work required for the basic administration of Wikipedia is making you look bad. --Orlady (talk) 01:04, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

You don't be absurd. Nyttend was the one who nominated the page for deletion here[8] without giving a reason. He even made a second edit[[9]] and still couldn't explain himself. Ignoring those edits tells me again Wikipedia administrators first job here to protect your own....William 01:18, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

William, that is not what happened. Nyttend was going to send it to AfD, but changed his mind and created a redirect. You reverted Nyttend, sent it to AfD and then you closed it. And then someone sent an email that started off wiki attack on Nyttend at wirtland. Apparently, Wirtland does discriminate based on religious and political views. I am One of Many (talk) 01:41, 30 January 2014 (UTC)