Jump to content

MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Newslinger (talk | contribs) at 09:31, 9 March 2024 (Old-time Music (oldtimemusic.com): Added to Blacklist using SBHandler). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

    Mediawiki:Spam-blacklist is meant to be used by the spam blacklist extension. Unlike the meta spam blacklist, this blacklist affects pages on the English Wikipedia only. Any administrator may edit the spam blacklist. See Wikipedia:Spam blacklist for more information about the spam blacklist.


    Instructions for editors

    There are 4 sections for posting comments below. Please make comments in the appropriate section. These links take you to the appropriate section:

    1. Proposed additions
    2. Proposed removals
    3. Troubleshooting and problems
    4. Discussion

    Each section has a message box with instructions. In addition, please sign your posts with ~~~~ after your comment.

    Completed requests are archived. Additions and removals are logged, reasons for blacklisting can be found there.

    Addition of the templates {{Link summary}} (for domains), {{IP summary}} (for IP editors) and {{User summary}} (for users with account) results in the COIBot reports to be refreshed. See User:COIBot for more information on the reports.


    Instructions for admins
    Any admin unfamiliar with this page should probably read this first, thanks.
    If in doubt, please leave a request and a spam-knowledgeable admin will follow-up.

    Please consider using Special:BlockedExternalDomains instead, powered by the AbuseFilter extension. This is faster and more easily searchable, though only supports whole domains and not whitelisting.

    1. Does the site have any validity to the project?
    2. Have links been placed after warnings/blocks? Have other methods of control been exhausted? Would referring this to our anti-spam bot, XLinkBot be a more appropriate step? Is there a WikiProject Spam report? If so, a permanent link would be helpful.
    3. Please ensure all links have been removed from articles and discussion pages before blacklisting. (They do not have to be removed from user or user talk pages.)
    4. Make the entry at the bottom of the list (before the last line). Please do not do this unless you are familiar with regular expressions — the disruption that can be caused is substantial.
    5. Close the request entry on here using either {{done}} or {{not done}} as appropriate. The request should be left open for a week maybe as there will often be further related sites or an appeal in that time.
    6. Log the entry. Warning: if you do not log any entry you make on the blacklist, it may well be removed if someone appeals and no valid reasons can be found. To log the entry, you will need this number – 1212732031 after you have closed the request. See here for more info on logging.


    Proposed additions


    Advercity websites

    Like annuaire-mairie.fr, I suggest that you blacklist the following ADVERCITY websites, as they are unofficial and do not cite their sources. This French company has already been condemned by the courts for misleading consumers (https://mesinfos.fr/auvergne-rhone-alpes/saint-chamond-lentreprise-advercity-condamnee-pour-pratiques-commerciales-trompeuses-121955.html).

    Their activity consists of placing as many links as possible to make people believe that this is the official site of the town hall, then charging for administrative procedures that are free, or encouraging web users to call a premium-rate number.

    This site has already been banned in France for similar practices: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist/archive7#Bloquer_:_divers_sites_g%C3%A9r%C3%A9s_par_Advercity

    • commune-mairie.fr
    • conseil-general.com
    • communes.com
    • acte-deces.fr
    • mairie.net
    • mairie.biz
    • db-city.com

    commune-mairie.fr: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:frSpamcheckMER-C X-wikigs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: searchmeta • Domain: domaintoolsAboutUs.com

    conseil-general.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:frSpamcheckMER-C X-wikigs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: searchmeta • Domain: domaintoolsAboutUs.com

    communes.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:frSpamcheckMER-C X-wikigs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: searchmeta • Domain: domaintoolsAboutUs.com

    acte-deces.fr: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:frSpamcheckMER-C X-wikigs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: searchmeta • Domain: domaintoolsAboutUs.com

    mairie.net: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:frSpamcheckMER-C X-wikigs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: searchmeta • Domain: domaintoolsAboutUs.com

    mairie.biz: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:frSpamcheckMER-C X-wikigs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: searchmeta • Domain: domaintoolsAboutUs.com

    db-city.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:frSpamcheckMER-C X-wikigs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: searchmeta • Domain: domaintoolsAboutUs.com

    --Torrora (talk) 19:09, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't see a pressing need to pre-emptively blacklist all of those unless you can provide links showing how they've been abused on English Wikipedia. We don't typically blacklist sites just because another wiki blacklists them. OhNoitsJamie Talk 20:14, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for this clarification, I was very confused to see automated removal of citations (marked with a minor edit!) without any discussion here showing consensus. Umimmak (talk) 20:34, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Ohnoitsjamie There's no rush, I was just basing it on what had been done on the other wiki. I've updated the list of sites that were present on this wikipedia and that I've just removed. |commune-mairie.fr |conseil-general.com |communes.com |acte-deces.fr |mairie.net |mairie.biz |db-city.com Torrora (talk) 21:14, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Ohnoitsjamie Did you have time to look at my previous message? Have a nice day --Torrora (talk) 10:05, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The examples you provided appear to have been added in good faith either as references or attempts to have something akin to an official town link. As such, I don't feel comfortable unilaterally blacklisting all of these without further discussion. Since there seems to be a fair amount of usage of these links as references, this should probably go to the reliable sources noticeboard for further vetting. If the community decides that these are not usable links on Wikipedia, the next step would be to remove all of them then blacklist. OhNoitsJamie Talk 14:09, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Ohnoitsjamie - question for clarity: these links shouldn't be removed from closed AfD discussions, should they? (ex) I didn't undo it, but I thought we weren't supposed to change anything in those once they were closed since they're kept for archival purposes? OIM20 (talk) 19:24, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yeah… there was definitely a premature, overzealous removal of these links on Wikipedia. Even if there was a consensus to remove these links (there isn’t yet), that would only apply to actual articles. Umimmak (talk) 19:39, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks. OIM20 (talk) 20:03, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Ohnoitsjamie Forgive me, but sites that claim to be the official site of the town hall, another government agency or links that have no encyclopedic interest (such as proposing to order a death certificate, despite any enriching source for the article) have no business being on Wikipedia because they're hidden advertising. Torrora (talk) 13:33, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    We don't preemptively blacklist every site that doesn't have a legitimate use on Wikipedia; we blacklist sites that are repeatedly spammed or repeatedly misused as references. I have yet to see any such evidence presented yet. OhNoitsJamie Talk 14:39, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I gave you a few examples in my last post: |commune-mairie.fr |conseil-general.com |communes.com |acte-deces.fr |mairie.net |mairie.biz |db-city.com. See also my latest editions of February 16th for more examples of these sites: Special:Contributions/Torrora --Torrora (talk) 20:19, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Those links are examples of you removing the links. I don't see any evidence of a particular editor or editors spamming the links; i.e., systematically canvassing them. For the handful of usage examples that I looked it, it appeared that the links were added in good faith by a variety of editors as references or as an external link in cases where that link probably was one the only ones available at the time with information about the settlement. As I said before, you're welcome to open a discussion at WP:RSN or get other feedback here, but at this time I'm not going to add them myself and I'm not interested in discussing it further. OhNoitsJamie Talk 20:50, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I would support this, considering that the French Wikipedia community, which probably has the most insight here, decided to do the same ([89]). Bendegúz Ács (talk) 12:39, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    caviarprice.io

    Multiple instances of brand new users adding links to the same retail website. VVikingTalkEdits 17:15, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Viewmont Viking: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist. --OhNoitsJamie Talk 18:06, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    inzone.ae

    Added to Certified copy and elsewhere, of no encyclopaedic value. 81.187.192.168 (talk) 16:12, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    luxeluminoustz.com

    Generic retail/resale shop website with AI-derived cod articles that have been added to various diet, exercise and health articles. No encyclopaedic value. 81.187.192.168 (talk) 01:04, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Cluster of AI Sites

    I've come across a group of websites that have AI generated content, and Bendegúz Ács (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · blacklist hits · AbuseLog · what links to user page · count · COIBot · Spamcheck · user page logs · x-wiki · status · Edit filter search · Google · StopForumSpam) helped me identify a few more sites that appear to be part of the same family. Some of these pages have been use as references in some Wikipedia articles (identified using Special:LinkSearch). From examining the page history of the websites with [web.archive.org web.archive.org], it appears that most of the sites underwent a significant change to their design and/or content all around the same time (late 2023, which is when I started noticed them appearing in Google results as SEO spam).

    • Isp.page
    • Ts2.ai
    • Satproviders.com
    • Isp.today
    • elblog.pl


    The following two sites don't currently display AI generated articles, but they did in the past (around November 2023 when I first stumbled across these pages) under their blog section, which has since been scrubbed. Some pages on Wikipedia references these articles.

    • ts2.space (Main blog page can be seen in archives here: [1]
    • ts2.tech (this appears to be a mirror of ts2.space)

    ts2.space seem to be related to TS 2. The edit history ([2] and [3]) seems to provide some hints as to it being bought out?

    Lastly, there is isp.page. While this does not have any AI generated articles on it, I believe it is part of the same family of sites, as some of the other sites link to it, and because it has an icon which says "isp.today" in it, which is one of the previous sites that I identified as having AI generated spam.

    Cmdrraimus (talk) 03:49, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    WikiProject Spam report created at WP:RSPAM § AI-generated websites (March 2024). COIBot reports are pending. — Newslinger talk 03:54, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Actually, COIBot has been down since November 2023. I'll review the Spamcheck reports when I get a chance. — Newslinger talk 09:00, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Old-time Music (oldtimemusic.com)

    Per consensus that the website is AI-generated. See Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 429 § oldtimemusic.com is AI generated spam and WP:RSN § Old-time Music (oldtimemusic.com). — Newslinger talk 09:29, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist. — Newslinger talk 09:31, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Best Buy affiliate spam

    Link
    Spammers

    Affiliate site imitating the Best Buy store. No legitimate use, please blacklist.-KH-1 (talk) 01:27, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @KH-1: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist. --OhNoitsJamie Talk 21:39, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Proposed removals

    ValuePenguin.com

    1 The web address of the site you would like removed from the list (omit the http and www parts) Valuepenguin.com 2 The reason(s) why links to the site should be allowed and would benefit Wikipedia Valuepenguin.com is a reputable domain, attested by McAfee SiteAdvisor as a finance/banking domain with minimal risk.

    This is how Wikipedia will benefit from allowing Valuepenguin.com : • Reputable Content: Links to reputable external sources (such as valuepenguin.com can serve as references to support the information presented in Wikipedia articles. This helps ensure the accuracy and reliability of the content by allowing readers to verify the information and check the sources themselves. • Enhanced User Experience: Including relevant external links can enhance the overall user experience by providing readers with access to site content, such as videos, images, etc. that may not be available within the Wikipedia article itself. 3 The article or articles on which the links would be used Since it’s a trusted domain, the link can be used on multiple wiki pages, including - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LendingTree. 4 If you are connected to the site, then please declare this at this point. Failure to do so will, if discovered, be treated negatively. Yes, I am a LendingTree employee reporting this issue as observed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.80.133.1 (talk) 19:44, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

     Not done Like other Native advertising sites, it is of no value to Wikipedia. OhNoitsJamie Talk 20:02, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Discussion

    Troubleshooting and problems

    pFad - Phonifier reborn

    Pfad - The Proxy pFad of © 2024 Garber Painting. All rights reserved.

    Note: This service is not intended for secure transactions such as banking, social media, email, or purchasing. Use at your own risk. We assume no liability whatsoever for broken pages.


    Alternative Proxies:

    Alternative Proxy

    pFad Proxy

    pFad v3 Proxy

    pFad v4 Proxy