Talk:National Assembly (Artsakh)

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In exile?

The source quoted with regard to the National Assembly allegedly existing in exile talks about "factions of the National Assembly" making a collective statement; there is no indication of there being a functional body fulfilling the role of a government. The 28 September document mentions the dissolution of "all state institutions and organisations under their departmental authority" before 1 January, which includes the National Assembly. If there is indeed a government-in-exile, it is a whole different initiative. Then it becomes an advocacy group rather than a real legislative body (which by definition requires representation, deliberation, legislation, and the ability to authorise expenditure, form governments and provide oversight, and the NKR National Assembly does not currently fit this definition), which in turn warrants a separate article, provided there is enough evidence for its existence (beyond occasional statements made to the media; see, for example, East Turkistan Government in Exile). So far there is none. It even looks like the Deputy Chief of Staff of the Prime Minister of Armenia denounced these claims by stating that "there is not and cannot be another government or another state in the Republic of Armenia". Parishan (talk) 14:49, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

The assembly and its parliamentarians continue to carry out limited functions, in absentia, based in Yerevan. See [1], [2], [3], while this states "Since Azerbaijan's attack last year on Artsakh, which forced the entire Armenian population there to flee to Armenia, the Artsakh National Assembly has been working in exile in Armenia." And this [4] which states "Exiled leaders of Nagorno-Karabakh have pushed back against a senior Armenian official's claims that their government bodies have ceased to exist since Azerbaijan regained full control of the region last September." There is a plethora of WP:RS confirming the functionality of the assembly as a government-in-exile. Archives908 (talk) 23:56, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Also, maybe you aren't aware, but the 28 September document has been officially nullified. See [5] and [6]. Archives908 (talk) 00:00, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

@Archives908 First of all, please note that this is unacceptable: [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14]. I will have to ask you to revert yourself at this point; otherwise you will be reported for edit-warring. I am pinging you to avoid any potential miscommunication.

Carrying out "limited functions" does not mean forming a government-in-exile, especially when the supposed host country considers this activity illegal. Your arguments are unsatisfactory. OC Media, the only neutral source you have quoted, mentions "attempts to form a government-in-exile" but not its actual functionality, which is very much in line with other neutral sources:

• Eurasianet, 03.04.2024: "At a late March cabinet session, Pashinyan bluntly announced that Karabakhi leaders would not be permitted to establish a government in exile. A government statement said that “in Armenia, apart from the Government of the Republic of Armenia, no other government can exist.”"
• Centre for East European and International Studies, 04.09.2024: "The former de facto elites of Nagorno-Karabakh have attempted to create a government-in-exile. They have become a thorn in the side of the Pashinyan government and their ideas have been forcefully repudiated. The speaker of the Armenian Parliament, Alen Simonyan, stated that there can be no Karabakh state within Armenia and that Armenia will not provide money to maintain the political institutions of Karabakh."

All these sources are indicative of the fact that plans to form a government-in-exile have not come to fruition and are limited to mere claims by the interested party. I do not know what "plethora of sources" you are referring to but ironically, 90% of search results about a supposed NKR government-in-exile are news reports about the Armenian leadership slamming the idea of there existing such a government. We are talking about a legislative body, and as of now there are no serious grounds to suppose that this body carries out any legislative functions, or any functions for that matter, outside of occasional instances of local media outreach. In any case, wording it in this article as "The National Assembly of the Republic of Artsakh is the legislative branch of the government of the Republic of Artsakh" is misleading and anachronistic and does not reflect the immense changes that affected the region a year ago. That would be like saying: "The National Council of Iran the legislative branch of the government of the Imperial State of Iran". Parishan (talk) 01:32, 29 October 2024 (UTC)