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Can someone else review the two wordings? The lead intro is POV, considering all things. Thanks.[[User:Kiyosaki|Kiyosaki]] 01:25, 8 November 2006 (UTC) |
Can someone else review the two wordings? The lead intro is POV, considering all things. Thanks.[[User:Kiyosaki|Kiyosaki]] 01:25, 8 November 2006 (UTC) |
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:The lead is balanced, and you're here only because you stalked me here, not because you're familiar with the subject. |
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:The lead makes clear that he was a respected analyst, a controversial figure, regarded by some as having gone astray, but admired by others, then subjected to an investigation, book burning and jail. He is a complex figure and the lead reflects that complexity. [[User:SlimVirgin|SlimVirgin]] <sup><font color="Purple">[[User_talk:SlimVirgin|(talk)]]</font></sup> 01:29, 8 November 2006 (UTC) |
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Cloudbuster
It may be a minor point but I'm not clear from the text - If "designed" - was it built? The photo indicates so of course but was it tested - Did it work in any real sense of the word? Rrose Selavy
Technical:
Why does on top of this discussion page the following link:
To participate, help improve this article or visit the project page for ...
point to Chemistry?
--David Moerike 17:23, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
- Someone probably copied the chemistry template and forgot to change it to psychology. I've fixed it. SlimVirgin (talk) 19:30, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
Einstein episode overstated
In my opinion the episode of the meeting between Reich and Einstein is overstated in the article. Above all, the only source we have on it is the account of Reich, given in the brochure of 1953 The Einstein Affaire, and the letters reproduced therein. No Einstein biographer was able to give additional information on it.
Therefore I'd suggest to reduce the chapter to the solid facts and add it just as a paragraph to the preceding chapter where it belongs.
The text could be as follows (with improvements of English grammar, if necessary):
- In 1940, Reich wrote to Albert Einstein saying he had a scientific discovery he wanted to discuss, and on January 13, 1941, he went to visit Einstein in Princeton. Einstein agreed to test the orgone accumulator. Reich supplied the device during their second meeting, and Einstein performed the experiment in his basement, which involved taking the temperature atop, inside, and near the device. He also stripped the device down to its Faraday cage to compare temperatures. Over the course of a week, in both cases, Einstein observed a rise in temperature, and confirmed Reich's finding. However, contrary to Reich who took this as experimentum crucis for the existence of a primordial cosmic energy he had called "orgone", Einstein interpreted the phenomenon simply as resulting from thermal convection currents.
This is the whole story. Reich's later speculations of an influence of Leopold Infeld on Einsteins judgment (because Infeld went to Stalinist Poland after the war) have never been verified.
If there will be no argumentative objection within the next days I'll implant this change.
--Nescio* 08:45, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
- It's understated if anything. The source is the Einstein-Reich correspondence and it's a very telling episode in Reich's life. The biography you yourself recommended devotes quite a bit of space to it. SlimVirgin (talk) 00:19, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
- Sharaf, as you should know, devotes not even 1 chapter out of 32, not even 5 pages out of 500, to this episode. It may be telling biographically, but not as a scientific "Einstein experiment". See Einstein's letter to Reich from 7 Feb 1941 about what really happened in his home, the only and most pertinent source. And there is no need to list the bulk of fringe science literature pertaining to it.
Hawkwind
Why does the article open with a "Hawkwind" redirect? There are many other more prolific artists (writers, musicians etc) who have explored WR's ideas. It seems ultimately unnecessary, irrelevant and selfish to open the Reich article in this manner. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.148.84.140 (talk • contribs)
- I agree. I've removed it. SlimVirgin (talk) 03:51, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Revert War
SlimVirgin has reverted MY contributions three times to this article regarding the minor wording over 1 sentence.
As the article states, this man in the prime of his career:
In 1947, following a series of critical articles about orgone in The New Republic and Harper's, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) began an investigation into his claims, and won an injunction against the interstate sale of orgone accumulators. Charged with contempt of court for violating the injunction, Reich insisted on conducting his own defense, which involved sending the judge all his books to read. He was sentenced to two years in prison, and in August 1956, several tons of his publications were burned by the FDA. [5][1] He died of heart failure in jail just over a year later, days before he was due to apply for parole. [7]
Can someone else review the two wordings? The lead intro is POV, considering all things. Thanks.Kiyosaki 01:25, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
- The lead is balanced, and you're here only because you stalked me here, not because you're familiar with the subject.
- The lead makes clear that he was a respected analyst, a controversial figure, regarded by some as having gone astray, but admired by others, then subjected to an investigation, book burning and jail. He is a complex figure and the lead reflects that complexity. SlimVirgin (talk) 01:29, 8 November 2006 (UTC)