Talk:Yamatai

Reply to Bendono

Bendono, thanks for your comment on my Talk page about this edit. I'll answer here, if it's OK with you. I moved Miyake's linguistic note on pronunciation from the lead paragraph (where it seems too technical) to the "Pronunciation" section (where details of other OC and OP reconstructions are discussed). For the sake of consistency, I changed the "ref" tag format for a single "Notes" to the Harvard referencing format this article uses for all the other citations under "References". HTML complexities of these "ref" tags often cause problems such as "1. ^ Marc Hideo (2003:41)". I agree with you that the lead needs another sentence about Yamatai and Yamato. How about something like this? "The linguistically and historically controversial term Yamatai transcribes an early form of Old Japanese Yamato₂ corresponding to Modern Japanese Yamato (大和 "Japan")." Do you think some of the Yamato information and Wikilinks from the first paragraph in "History" should go into the lead? Thanks again. Keahapana 01:45, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. More than for phonological reasons, my intention with the reference was to merely say that Yamatai is (linguistically) nothing more than a old form of the word that eventually became Yamato. It goes without saying, though, that the concept of what makes up Yamato (ie, Japan) has changed a great deal as national centers and boarders changed and expanded. I would like to say something like this in the lead, but do not have a better resource. As you wrote, the linguistic details are more appropriate elsewhere, which I am satisfied with. Bendono (talk) 05:20, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Developements

Japanese news has been reporting on a newly discovered 3rd century ruin suggesting that it may be evidence for the location of Yamatai. A few examples:

• 卑弥呼の宮殿？奈良で３世紀の大型建物跡出土
• ３世紀前半、国内最大の建物跡　奈良・桜井市の纒向遺跡で発見
• ３世紀前半の大型建物跡、邪馬台国の中枢施設か　奈良

Perhaps some of this could be incorporated into the article. 115.128.19.224 (talk) 10:17, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

33 Wei-style Mirrors

I found some wrong notation on Yoshinogari. Five "Han-style" mirrors were actually found from Yoshinogari, but 33 "Wei-style" bronze mirrors were later found from Kurotsuka Kofu in Nara Prefecture.

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%BB%92%E5%A1%9A%E5%8F%A4%E5%A2%B3

The so-called Wei-style bronze mirrors with prints of Wei calendars were found mainly from Nara Prefecture, but the problem is that no corresponding mirrors were ever found in China.

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B8%89%E8%A7%92%E7%B8%81%E7%A5%9E%E7%8D%A3%E9%8F%A1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aurichalcum (talk • contribs) 12:18, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, forgot to sign.Aurichalcum (talk) 13:07, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Yamaikoku reference

Hi Jhmartian, and thanks for making your first Wikipedia contributions to this article. Please check your Talk page for some Welcome information to help you get started editing. I've changed the lead back to conform with WP:COMMONNAME conventions. Google finds 67,000 pages with Yamataikoku, 598 with Yamaichikoku, and 8 with Yamaikoku. I've also moved your Ideology information, which you may want to edit, down to the existing Pronunciations section. Could you provide the publication details for your Tōdō Akiyasu reference? Please let me know if I can help you. Keahapana (talk) 01:07, 3 December 2010 (UTC)