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I am going to reach out to you here, because I don't want to go running to drama boards, but I have to say I am concerned that you do not appear to be approaching pages that have a connection with Richard Gill from a neutral point of view. We both are aware that you have history with him, and you might like to consider taking a step back and editing other pages about which you have less strong views. Wikipedia is not the place to [[WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS]]. I am sure you have a lot to offer, but [[WP:NPOV]] is a core policy. I know you will wish to disagree with me, but please take this in the spirit it is meant - that you could have a lot to offer, but not on these articles. [[User:Sirfurboy|Sirfurboy🏄]] ([[User talk:Sirfurboy|talk]]) 19:01, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
I am going to reach out to you here, because I don't want to go running to drama boards, but I have to say I am concerned that you do not appear to be approaching pages that have a connection with Richard Gill from a neutral point of view. We both are aware that you have history with him, and you might like to consider taking a step back and editing other pages about which you have less strong views. Wikipedia is not the place to [[WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS]]. I am sure you have a lot to offer, but [[WP:NPOV]] is a core policy. I know you will wish to disagree with me, but please take this in the spirit it is meant - that you could have a lot to offer, but not on these articles. [[User:Sirfurboy|Sirfurboy🏄]] ([[User talk:Sirfurboy|talk]]) 19:01, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
:Look mate, I am not going to stop editing on the [[Lucia de Berk]] page just because you don't want me to. You feel I am neutral, I don't think you are neutral. The feeling is mutual. I suggest you approach me therefore as an equal editor or don't bother at all [[User:MeltingDistrict|MeltingDistrict]] ([[User talk:MeltingDistrict#top|talk]]) 19:03, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

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Conspiracy theorists

Hi, @MeltingDistrictMeltingDistrict. The Lucy Letby case is not closed. She can, and likely will, appeal.So the analogy with these nutty conspiracy theorists is a bit weak. If we were now at the “long after the case is closed” stage, The Telegraph would not have published that article. Richard Gill (talk) 23:37, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Richard. It's a shame The Telegraph wrote that then isn't it, because we don't get to decide to censor information on Wikipedia if we don't like it, we just have to report what the secondary sources say, like it or not. Sorry! MeltingDistrict (talk) 23:39, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
But you didn’t write what the Telegraph said. You twisted what the Telegraph said. Seems you have an agenda. You are breaking a number of Wikipedia rules. Richard Gill (talk) 23:47, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You have a Wikipedia:conflict of interest, you are strongly discouraged to edit in such a way. Wikipedia:Conflict of Interest says: "If you have a personal connection to a topic or person, you are advised to refrain from editing those articles directly. Requests for updates to an article about yourself or someone with whom you have a personal connection can be made on the article's talk page by following the instructions at WP:COIREQ". I'd be very careful about reverting other editors' edits on a page about yourself, as you have been doing. MeltingDistrict (talk) 23:52, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have alerted Wikipedia editors to your vandalism, because indeed I should not touch the article about myself (a living person) till I’m no longer a living person. Richard Gill (talk) 23:59, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have read that comment three times and still don't understand what its supposed to mean. MeltingDistrict (talk) 00:01, 26 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No sense of humour? Richard Gill (talk) 00:27, 26 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have an agenda? You ought to remain from making such assumptive comments, as you should be commenting on content, not on the contributor. You are breaking a number of Wikipedia rules. MeltingDistrict (talk) 23:54, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You are just a troll. Richard Gill (talk) 23:59, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I apologise for that comment. Richard Gill (talk) 01:58, 26 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You are a Wikipedia editor with one single topic: Lucy Letby. I suggest you stick to that page. You will have a lot of work cut out for you when the appeal starts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/MeltingDistrict Richard Gill (talk) 00:12, 26 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Here’s a suggestion for you: add a sentence to the article about me saying that “Gill is currently one of a number of scientists advocating for an appeal and a retrial of Lucy Letby.” The Telegraph article could be cited. Richard Gill (talk) 00:26, 26 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Neutrality

I am going to reach out to you here, because I don't want to go running to drama boards, but I have to say I am concerned that you do not appear to be approaching pages that have a connection with Richard Gill from a neutral point of view. We both are aware that you have history with him, and you might like to consider taking a step back and editing other pages about which you have less strong views. Wikipedia is not the place to WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS. I am sure you have a lot to offer, but WP:NPOV is a core policy. I know you will wish to disagree with me, but please take this in the spirit it is meant - that you could have a lot to offer, but not on these articles. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 19:01, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Look mate, I am not going to stop editing on the Lucia de Berk page just because you don't want me to. You feel I am neutral, I don't think you are neutral. The feeling is mutual. I suggest you approach me therefore as an equal editor or don't bother at all MeltingDistrict (talk) 19:03, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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