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Your recent edits to Aikido

Hi Regulov,

I notice that you recently replaced (and then reverted) the simplified character for "ki" in this article with the classical version. I'm just curious as to why you reverted your edits - did you find something in the style guidelines which encourages the use of simplified characters? I only ask because I've often thought of making the exact changes you did, since the simplified character is hardly ever used in the aikido community. If you've found a good reason not to use the older version of ki, I'd appreciate it if you could let me know - just in case I'm ever tempted to change the character myself!

Cheers, Yunshui (talk) 12:17, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree: in my experience, the word is usually written the old way, so the simpler form is jarring; I just didn't want to get into a thing. When, in the course of actually reading the page, I noted that a justification/explanation was implied in the Ki section by the link to Tōyō kanji, I decided not to get involved in something that seemed to have seen a bit of contention between people better informed than I am. The traditional form is apparently deprecated in modern Japanese; my own (very limited) language expertise comes from the Chinese side of things.
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I see; thanks for the explanation. It could indeed open a rather large can of worms... Yunshui (talk) 13:18, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Double spaces

There's no need to change double spaces after a period to single spaces, since both render exactly the same way on the finished page, as a single space. BMK (talk) 21:37, 13 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't realize that. Thank you. Regulov (talk) 18:00, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Wasn't my comma, but I know good prose when I see it

I apologize if I was too blunt. I did not write that section of the article, but I know good prose when I see it. The comma in that location maintains the vigorous pacing of the narrative as well as consistency with the rest of that article. The alternative would be to rewrite the entire article from scratch in the more concise American prose style: shorter sentences and simpler clause structure (i.e., less chaining of multiple dependent clauses). I think that might be the better alternative, but I'm not crazy enough about Magna Carta to do the heavy lifting myself. Plus that would irritate all the editors from England who would argue for sticking with British English. In general, it's more coherent to maintain an article in one style, then to delete punctuation willy-nilly and create a Frankenstein of an article which conveys a schizophrenic impression to readers. --Coolcaesar (talk) 00:36, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Alabama isn't in parentheses

Uh, what? Decatur, Alabama is its own unit - "Decatur in Alabama". Saying "Decatur in Alabama, and Harlingen in Texas" would not be grammatically correct. 5Ept5xW (talk) 05:06, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nvm, article's better off with more clarity. The major ULA factory is in Decatur. Thanks, 5Ept5xW (talk) 05:10, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]


You are mistaken, 5Ept5xW, and I encourage you, again, to go and read the MOS. "Parenthetical" does not mean "in parentheses", and "Decatur, Alabama" is not in fact "its own unit".

"Decatur, Alabama is a lovely town." INCORRECT "Decatur, Alabama, is a lovely town." CORRECT

I understand that it looks wrong to you; but it is not wrong. Don't "Nvm" me: I do not object to your edit, but I do object a little to the tone of "agree to disagree" with which you are closing the issue. You are just saving face. Next time you come across a correction of this kind (see also: "On July 20, 1969, Apollo 11 landed on the moon."), I hope you will refrain from reverting it, recalling that your intuition is not reliable in such cases.

Regulov (talk) 05:23, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Well, thanks for your opinion, although I do not understand your aggressive response. 5Ept5xW (talk) 05:27, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It isn't my opinion. That's why I'm taking this tone with you. You are trying to preserve your mistaken understanding of how to use a comma, and your ego, by calling it my opinion. Don't do that. Please read the relevant section on commas in the manual of style. I am trying to teach you something. In this case, you know less than I do. Regulov (talk) 05:33, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Regulov: Ok, this is from eight days ago. To summarize the current issue, you (Regulov) seem to be offended by my inclusion of pertinent details - ULA's Texas facility is a minor part of the supply chain, Decatur is the main Atlas V assembly facility. The current language in the Atlas V article reflects this, please see discussion at that talk page. 5Ept5xW (talk) 06:58, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

?? What is from eight days ago? Are you calling from the past?

What an excellent summary of our dispute! I seem to be offended by your inclusion of pertinent details! Actual lol! Is there something wrong with my keyboard? Are my repeated, careful explanations coming out as cuneiform? Let me be clear: almost the last thing I am, is "offended."

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Hi Regulov, Re the possessive S after Jonathan Meades, the MoS appears to be at odds with English grammar here, see, eg, The New Oxford English Grammar, editor Sydney Greenbaum, publisher OUP 1996. Hence my reverting your edit. However in the world of Wikipedia, MoS rules, so apologies. Perhaps the sentence should be reworded. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 19:58, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No objections. Regulov (talk) 23:17, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Possessive Bruno Mars

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I thought that instead of reverting back and forth we could have a formal discussion here. You do have a point, it does say "For the possessive of singular nouns, including proper names and words ending in s, add 's". However, I previously had this discussion with someone else on Wikipedia and we agreed to change some of the possessive forms whenever it was possible since it is quite difficult to pronounce "Mars's", its harder than "pizza's". I also submit most of the articles to GOCE and they don't seem to have a problem with it, since "If a name ending in s or z would be difficult to pronounce with 's added (Jesus's teachings), consider rewording (the teachings of Jesus)." If possible we make the changes, if not we leave it alone. The MOS is a guideline, not a prison and it is still correct to usage the english language.

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Slow down.

Mario, you are having a tantrum. Take a time out.

As I write this, you are eliminating each and every instance of "Mars's" on Bruno Mars by recasting the sentence. Stop and count to ten.

Some of your rewrites are fine; some are even improvements. But you just can't get them all without accepting bafflingly bad writing, and because you are doing it in haste and in anger, you are also making spelling mistakes as you go.

What purpose does this serve? Regulov (talk) 16:26, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Regulov Well, there goes the improvement with you reverting everything! MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 16:51, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

That's not fair, Mario. I have only changed a few back to "Mars's". I think you have gone way overboard, but I have left most of your rephrased sentences alone. Go ahead and count. And when I said some were improvements, I obviously didn't mean "the mother of Mars". Regulov (talk) 17:56, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

I give up, you win. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 19:10, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That isn't how I'd put it; but okay. Regulov (talk) 19:16, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Have you given up on the three articles we are talking about? We were about to reach a consensus on Locked Out of Heaven. Cheers, MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 17:38, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Regulov Nor can you do whatever you want. British style REALLY does not use the full stop, their name for the period, the same way Americans use them. Read some British publications and notice the differences. You are now edit-warring, in my view. The editors who work on articles about novels by Dickens work hard at them, and work out differences on substance and style. You are not listening. Please do listen and get educated. None of us are new to Wikipedia, nor new to British style. - - Prairieplant (talk)|

It's not always that simple ...

.. per MOS:'S; "If a name ending in s or z would be difficult to pronounce with 's added (Jesus's teachings), consider rewording (the teachings of Jesus)." - Alison 18:42, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have read it. It is always that simple. At Wikipedia, we write "Jesus's" and "Laurene Powell Jobs's". The end. Regulov (talk) 17:38, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • If it were 'always that simple', we wouldn't have MOS battles off-wiki, such as what happened with the AP MOS some time back. Not all our editors know this, so try to be less snippy and bite-y with editors, lest you drive them away with your frankly caustic attitude. That was my take-away from this exchange - Alison 20:35, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Excuse me? If you had checked the MOS before reverting, I wouldn't have had to direct you to it. Now you are here, on my talk page, pasting the passage I sent you to, as though I didn't know it by heart, and tut-tutting my "attitude" on behalf of the purely hypothetical editors I am driving away. Learn to accept correction gracefully. Regulov (talk) 13:26, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RFC on Claire Danes

You have previously contributed to Claire Danes. I have opened an RFC on some of the content and would appreciate your input. Talk:Claire Danes#RFC - Claire Danes persona non grata resolution SquareInARoundHole (talk) 19:10, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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