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On his talk page, [[User:ScienceApologist | ScienceApologist]] is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ScienceApologist#Asmodeus_equals_Christopher_Michael_Langan.3F attempting to reveal personal information regarding me] in violation of [[WP:HARASSMENT]]. Over a week ago, I politely requested that this user remove the information in question, but to no avail. This user claims that (1) since he put his accusation in the form of a question, it is not really an accusation (despite its clear association of my username with a putative RL identity); (2) he has reason to make an exception to WP:HARASSMENT, namely, (that I supposedly have) a pattern of non-NPOV edits to certain Wikipedia articles. However, since no such pattern exists, ScienceApologist is unable to substantiate this allegation. Furthermore, in repetitive violation of [[WP:NPA]], ScienceApologist has attempted to insert [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Christopher_Michael_Langan&diff=83537124&oldid=81676647 biographically irrelevant information] on one particular affiliation of the Wikipedia bio subject to whom he accuses me of being identical, evidently as a means of dismissing or discrediting his views (this also constitutes a violation of [[WP:LIVING]]). Accordingly, I am requesting that the personal information in question be removed. If it is not, then I will regard this as exhausting the normal means of dispute resolution in such cases. (Since this user has recently [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Pseudoscience/Proposed_decision#ScienceApologist_placed_on_probation drawn censure] from at least two members of the Arbitration Committee, I would ask to be spared any general AGF-type rationalizations of his/her hostile behavior.) Thank you, [[User:Asmodeus|Asmodeus]] 17:23, 17 November 2006 (UTC) |
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:Well, the first question would be are you? Making pov edits to Wikipedia articles, that is. If you are using the project to promote a particular pov in defiance of the policies, then him calling you on it would be justified and your subsequent actions toward him would be the ones that fall under [[WP:HAR]]. Reasonable questions about a person's RL identity are often raised when they may be editing topics they are personally involved in in defiance of policy and guideline. I'm not saying that is the case here, but it bears looking into since SA tends to be right and not hasty about such allegations and you appear to be trying to poison the well against him, and spamming this across other pages, such as WP:AN/I. BTW ,I don't think SA's recent arbcom case really applies here, as that was another matter and much of what he alleged about the other parties turned out to be true. [[User:FeloniousMonk|FeloniousMonk]] 18:25, 17 November 2006 (UTC) |
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::Do you have evidence that I've been POV-editing Wikipedia articles? Try the biography to whose subject ScienceApologist accuses me of being identical. As it happens, this very article has been POV-edited by ScienceApologist in blatant violation of [[WP:NPA]] and [[WP:NPOV]]! Clearly, something needs to be done about this sort of behavior, and I'm just trying to explore all of the appropriate channels before submitting another Request for Arbitration on account of it. [[User:Asmodeus|Asmodeus]] 18:36, 17 November 2006 (UTC) |
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:::There's more than a few facts here that make me doubt the earnestness of your claim. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Christopher_Michael_Langan&diff=prev&oldid=64501516] is clearly a pov deletion and possible conflict of interest, while [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Crank_%28person%29&diff=86161934&oldid=86040206] is uncited pov. These alone, make me suspicious. Also, your recent piling-on against SA at an RFAR in which you were not involved [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?offset=&limit=50&target=Asmodeus&title=Special%3AContributions&namespace=4] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?offset=&limit=50&target=Asmodeus&title=Special%3AContributions&namespace=5] shows a pattern of possible low-level harassment on your part to silence someone who has caught on to your game. [[User:FeloniousMonk|FeloniousMonk]] 18:42, 17 November 2006 (UTC) |
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::::"Caught onto my game?" Arguably, that in itself is a violation of [[WP:NPA]] - certainly of collegiality - and both of the edits you cite are perfectly valid and defensible, as anyone can plainly see. [[User:Asmodeus|Asmodeus]] 18:54, 17 November 2006 (UTC) |
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:::::I'm describing a scenario, one that may indeed be accurate, not accusing you of anything. But if you are indeed hiding behind [[WP:NPA]] and [[WP:HAR]] to dodge having to comply with [[WP:AUTO]] and [[WP:COI]], you won't find much sympathy or support on the project for your position. [[User:FeloniousMonk|FeloniousMonk]] 19:27, 17 November 2006 (UTC) |
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::::::Don't be disingenuous - you're obviously trying to accuse me of something without actually "crossing the magic line". If you think you have a case, then feel free to produce it. Otherwise, please let the administrators do their jobs. [[User:Asmodeus|Asmodeus]] 19:38, 17 November 2006 (UTC) |
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Killerman2 (talk · contribs)
Take a look at this. This idiot should be banned for a long time, if not for ever. Thank you.--Barbatus 12:47, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
- Specific diff: [1]. Last NPA warning at 20 July 2006; just gave him {{npa3}} then. Latest attack seems racist-based, so maybe a warning isn't required to block. History of race-based attacks (see last NPA warning). Note, Barbatus, please do not make personal attacks (like "idiot") yourself. Daniel.Bryant [ T · C ] 12:53, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
- User proceeded to blanking my warning...classy. Daniel.Bryant [ T · C ] 13:21, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
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Admin assistance is requested at Wikipedia_talk:Naming conventions (television) to help maintain a civil atmosphere. Some of the participants (most notably Izzy Dot (talk · contribs)) have been engaging in verbal abuse and sexual comments: "You'd fricken nuts or retarded to even suggest..." [2], "pelvic thrust" [3], "Did some homo just accuse me of being a fucking sockpuppet" [4]. Note that Izzy Dot is also behaving in an uncivil manner in other venues as well: "WHAT THE FUCK... "You just 'puss' out" [5]. Repeated warnings to his talkpage have not seemed to help. Admin Josiah Rowe (talk · contribs) has threatened a block, which assistance is appreciated, but since Josiah is directly involved in the debate with Izzy at WP:NC-TV, it probably wouldn't be appropriate for him to do a block, so I'm requesting a neutral admin as well. Specific editors causing concern over personal attacks and incivility are Izzy Dot (talk · contribs), Ned Scott (talk · contribs), and Ace Class Shadow (talk · contribs). Thanks. --Elonka 02:40, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
- I would also be accused of being non-objective but, for what it's worth, I was going to block Izzy Dot myself until I realized that Josiah Rowe was an admin. I deferred to his final warning but I would recommend a block - possibly a long one. —Wknight94 (talk) 03:05, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
- 24 hour block on Izzy Dot. Post diffs for other editors and post again if problems resume. DurovaCharge! 12:57, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Very long history of personal attacks on the talk page, furthermore, has stated he does not take the personal attack policy seriously. I count several personal attacks at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review#General_Mayhem alone, not to mention the ones mentioned on his talk page. He has already been warned several times. Rizla 19:02, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- Please provide diffs per the instructions above. Shell babelfish 20:35, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
User Jaakko Sivonen (talk · contribs) has removed content from the page of another user and made a strong personal insult. [10]
The edit comment is Finnish for 'f_ck you' or 'f_ck off'. JdeJ 09:38, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- I forgot to add that the user had already been warned once before after this attack om another user. [11] JdeJ 12:35, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- Due to long history of similar problems and very recent warnings, I've blocked Jaakko Sivonen. Shell babelfish 17:18, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Please warn user NazireneMystic to refrain from personal attacks and remove offending material from the Talk:Ebionites page (from [12] to the end of the talk page). This user posted his user page Here I will show evidence of notibility and VfD proceedings of a deleted stub Articals for deletion log for Ebionite restoration movement complete with to meatpuppets and one admin that may had been duped by User:Ovadyah|Ovadyah on the talk page along with numerous personal attacks against myself and another editor (eg. seeArtical POV and [13].
If reading about your actions feels like a personal attack change your actionsNazireneMystic 08:23, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
This user has ignored repeated requests to respect Wikiquette guidlines posted on the talk page and has been given two prior npa3 warnings about personal attacks, Good faith? and meatpupppets. Thank you. Ovadyah 03:52, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
I dought there is a guidline wikipedia has that you not only break every day but lawyer around them to use them for reason contrary to what they were meant for from what ive seen if an action were taken against me compaired to what ive had to put up with from you it would be like getting a speeding ticket at the Brick Yard 400NazireneMystic 08:28, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
- This user was also asked to stop one last time on talk page again after receiving the second npa3 warning[14]. Ovadyah 04:04, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Ovadyah,
You can ask me to stop exposing your wikipedian lawyering tactics 1000 times but I do not care. If I did not almost daily point out how your tring to dominate the Ebionite artical with extreme POV it would had been totaly over ran months ago. Your upset because someone is calling you on your endless crap. If I were a nice guy I would had been ran off the artical long ago like you did to keith ackers who is actualy listed as a scholar and source for the artical if who ever is reading this realy cares to learn whats been going on contact Keith for one and he might tell you how these wikipedians have been acting and be sure to take the time to go through the archive pages so you can see the wild tactics used so far to push Ovadyah's POV its been quiet an experience here at wikipedia. If ovadyah is sensitive then Ovadyah should not be ingaging in such thingsNazireneMystic 08:20, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
This user constantly trolls my contribution logs. I am changing my request to a warning and a temporary block. I have also invited several editors involved in the Ebionites article or AfD to comment. Ovadyah 08:44, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Did you invite the other meatpuppet?NazireneMystic 08:59, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
- I alerted co-editor Loremaster, Alecmconroy from RFC, and admin Jayjg to the notice, if they wish to expand on my comments. Ovadyah 14:03, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
- Neither of you are behaving very well in this instance. Ovadyah, please provide specific diffs. Proto::type 15:11, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
- As no warning (other than some unnecessary ones from Oyidah at an earlier date) were issued, I've warned NazireneMystic for this edit, which was unacceptable. I would hope that unless he/she continues making edits of this kind, the matter is now closed. Proto::type 15:22, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Administrator blows referee whistle - this is not the place to conduct a dispute. 24 hour block issued. DurovaCharge! 01:09, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. It should be noted, however, that this user has already evaded the block by copying his talk page to another alias, User_talk:SpiritualEbionite. Ovadyah 01:25, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- The other account hasn't been used since 11 November and the move occurred before I administered the block. Suggest you follow-up with a suspected sockpuppet report. Post again here if problems resume. DurovaCharge! 01:38, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
- I will. Thanks again for taking care of it. Ovadyah 13:23, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
- The other account hasn't been used since 11 November and the move occurred before I administered the block. Suggest you follow-up with a suspected sockpuppet report. Post again here if problems resume. DurovaCharge! 01:38, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
This is but the latest wikilawyering act by ovadyah. tring to make it appear as if I evaded a block when I did not. Since noone here understands the difference in a person attack and aksing people to explain their wiwilawying tactics I gusee you will also not understand what a socketpuppet your going to file a socket puppet report now? baised on what? My first edit using that account mentioned That I was NazireneMystic and opened it because I forgoet my password. This it tipical of him thoe Isee you sugected the socketpuppet report with out seeing any evidence of such but didnt say anything about a meatpuppet report after I Laid out the evidence on the talkpage of the artical the meatpuppetry affectedNazireneMystic 03:09, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
User:Donnachadelong often makes insulting or derogatory comments to me or other editors. He was warned three times about this. 1 2 3
right-wing wreckers and POV-pusher – other "right-wing wrecker" he is mentioning is User:172
clearly you do have a problem understanding plain English
Are you deliberately dense or just plain stupid?
God some of you people talk rubbish.
You're like the Mormons with their post-mortem conversions.
bleedin' minority who dig up graves
-- Vision Thing -- 22:49, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
- 31 hour block. DurovaCharge! 01:01, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- Absolute bullshit Intangible 12:28, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- Please post only new incidents subsequent to a block. Also, take care how to word a post so it doesn't have the appearance of an unintentional insult. DurovaCharge! 01:40, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
- Absolute bullshit Intangible 12:28, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
This user attacked me and the PanoTools Group several times and this is now my third PAIN. The latest attack can be seen here [15]. As you can see on his talk page he already got several admin warnings [16], [17], [18], [19] including a Personal Attacks - Last Warning [20] for his older attacks which you can find in this history [21], [22]. As you can imagine we (The members of PanoTools.org) are really tired of this person. Please help. --Wuz 02:11, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
- I've gone ahead and left a 48 hour block for violations of WP:CIVIL. Suggest Wikipedia:Dispute resolution: it's unlikely that civility blocks alone would resolve this issue. If the person seems unwilling to compromise then try a user conduct WP:RFC. DurovaCharge! 03:46, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
A vandal who has vandalized my page twice with personal attack phrases and also other pages many times has been caught. Poor guy he forgot to turn off his signature script and the user is none other than a registered user who previously vandalised the Velupillai Prabhakaran page - SnowolfD4. Note the ones below:
1). Please check this topic "F..ing Demalu, we want you all dead. Your and your NCSLC bull. Need some good 'ole lynch. --snowolfD4( talk / @ )". He has vandalized my userpage and talk page with foul language and racist remarks. He had to do two changes, one with his signature and the other with his signature removed and both of them from this IP 208.101.4.34. He is caught redhanded trying to vandalize pages with his signature turned on by mistake.
2). His post in my talk page which is clearly personal attack/vandalism
3). FYI, the user has already been blocked thrice in Wikipedia. He has resorted to using abusive language and 'Demalu' means 'Tamilians' and he basically wants all 'F** Tamilians to die, which quite evidently is a bad racist remark and also my WP:NCSLC project closed, which goes completely against Wiki policies.
4). Please notice that the same IP/User has involved in anonymous IP Edits Killing Wiki editors, abusive language and blanking out in another page and also killing of all Tamilians in another usepage as evident from his contributions page
I kindly request you to step in and take stern action so that it can be avoided in the future. Thanks, and expecting your prompt action to maintain Wikipedia norms. If he is continuing even after three warnings including a 24-hour block, I think he is really going berserk. Thanks Sudharsansn (talk • contribs) 17:22, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- IP is already blocked for a long, long time. Since its possible that someone copied the signature (his IP address wouldn't have the sig in its profile) I would suggest using checkuser to confirm whether he uses the same IP. Shell babelfish 17:35, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help. However I note that checkuser seems to be for verifying Sockpuppets and not the Username/IP match. I am not too familiar with this, can someone help me in this regard? Moreover this seems to be a case of open-proxy as one of the IP is from Pakistan and the other from Australia. Kindly provide inputs. Thanks Sudharsansn (talk • contribs) 17:45, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- I have done a checkuser procedure I don't know if I have done the right thing. I kindly request an admin to help me with this procedure or possibly figure out the relationship between the signature left on my userpage by the user and the IPs he has used. Thanks and looking forward to this mess being cleaned up soon. Sudharsansn (talk • contribs) 18:06, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
The checkuser has been completed - none of the accounts suggested link to the IP address and the administrator wasn't able to find an account to link the IPs to. Shell babelfish 18:34, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi Shell, I just checked in the checkuser page and it has not been marked as per any of the templates mentioned in the page. Could you please confirm it? Thanks for your help! Sudharsansn (talk • contribs) 12:45, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
- Done. Dmcdevit stated they appear Unrelated. Daniel.Bryant [ T · C ] 12:46, 17 November 2006 (UTC)