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:Dogmaticeclectic's entire argument rests upon one unwarranted assumption; that all workpages are userspace drafts of articles. As you can see from examining my own workpage,[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Guy_Macon/Workpage&oldid=554937750][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Guy_Macon/Workpage&oldid=472452486][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Guy_Macon/Workpage&oldid=534891324] I use my workpage as a collection of material and work in progress that may or may not be incorporated into an article. In one case I used it to save some snippets of editing text without any formatting or Wikimarkup processing, which I later used while editing a page. In another case I used my workpage to publish a sorted list of 1000 article feedback IDs chosen at random using my hardware RNG, which we used during an RfD, and finally I used my workpage as a central location to gather user evaluations of article feedback comments. All were material used to further legitimate Wikipedia work, and none had the slightest resemblance to an article. --[[User:Guy Macon|Guy Macon]] ([[User talk:Guy Macon|talk]]) 03:03, 23 April 2014 (UTC) |
:Dogmaticeclectic's entire argument rests upon one unwarranted assumption; that all workpages are userspace drafts of articles. As you can see from examining my own workpage,[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Guy_Macon/Workpage&oldid=554937750][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Guy_Macon/Workpage&oldid=472452486][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Guy_Macon/Workpage&oldid=534891324] I use my workpage as a collection of material and work in progress that may or may not be incorporated into an article. In one case I used it to save some snippets of editing text without any formatting or Wikimarkup processing, which I later used while editing a page. In another case I used my workpage to publish a sorted list of 1000 article feedback IDs chosen at random using my hardware RNG, which we used during an RfD, and finally I used my workpage as a central location to gather user evaluations of article feedback comments. All were material used to further legitimate Wikipedia work, and none had the slightest resemblance to an article. --[[User:Guy Macon|Guy Macon]] ([[User talk:Guy Macon|talk]]) 03:03, 23 April 2014 (UTC) |
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*'''Strong keep''' it clearly marks areas for gathering data as a talkspace subpage or userspace subpage and work area, and not for demarcating articles. Marking a scratchspace is a good idea. How is it a fakearticle if it's not meant to look like an article at all, but just places to determine formatting and gather information? -- [[Special:Contributions/70.24.250.192|70.24.250.192]] ([[User talk:70.24.250.192|talk]]) 05:07, 23 April 2014 (UTC) |
*'''Strong keep''' it clearly marks areas for gathering data as a talkspace subpage or userspace subpage and work area, and not for demarcating articles. Marking a scratchspace is a good idea. How is it a fakearticle if it's not meant to look like an article at all, but just places to determine formatting and gather information? ''Userspace draft'' clearly cannot be used if the stratchpage is not in userspace (and why should we expect all workpages to be in userspace? ) and if they're not draft articles, then it doesn't even make sense. -- [[Special:Contributions/70.24.250.192|70.24.250.192]] ([[User talk:70.24.250.192|talk]]) 05:07, 23 April 2014 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 05:08, 23 April 2014
April 23
- Template:Workpage (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
This template clearly meets WP:T2 (although an administrator has declined to perform the speedy deletion, citing a reason not mentioned in the criterion) by not only contradicting WP:FAKEARTICLE by not even mentioning a time limit but also not even guiding users towards moving such content to the user namespace. (Note that Template:Userspace draft can simply be used instead, so no template merger is necessary for use on those pages that do not in fact violate WP:FAKEARTICLE.) Dogmaticeclectic (talk) 01:31, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
- Keep.
- Dogmaticeclectic's entire argument rests upon one unwarranted assumption; that all workpages are userspace drafts of articles. As you can see from examining my own workpage,[1][2][3] I use my workpage as a collection of material and work in progress that may or may not be incorporated into an article. In one case I used it to save some snippets of editing text without any formatting or Wikimarkup processing, which I later used while editing a page. In another case I used my workpage to publish a sorted list of 1000 article feedback IDs chosen at random using my hardware RNG, which we used during an RfD, and finally I used my workpage as a central location to gather user evaluations of article feedback comments. All were material used to further legitimate Wikipedia work, and none had the slightest resemblance to an article. --Guy Macon (talk) 03:03, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
- Strong keep it clearly marks areas for gathering data as a talkspace subpage or userspace subpage and work area, and not for demarcating articles. Marking a scratchspace is a good idea. How is it a fakearticle if it's not meant to look like an article at all, but just places to determine formatting and gather information? Userspace draft clearly cannot be used if the stratchpage is not in userspace (and why should we expect all workpages to be in userspace? ) and if they're not draft articles, then it doesn't even make sense. -- 70.24.250.192 (talk) 05:07, 23 April 2014 (UTC)