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: '''i will mostly answer on the page where the first post was, so if you leave me a note, check back for my answer.'''

* ''older articles are in the archives: [[/Archive 01|1]] [[/Archive 02|2]]''

== [[Bagheera kiplingi]] ==

I just started an article on the spider species ''Bagheera kiplingi'', whose dietary habits have attracted some recent attention.  I think it could make a nice [[WP:DYK|DYK]], but I'm sure it could use some attention from people actually familiar with the field.  Since you wrote the article on the genus ''[[Bagheera (genus)|Bagheera]]'', perhaps you might be interested in helping to improve the ''B. kiplingi'' article.  In particular, I'd be very grateful if you had any proper sources on the species' appearance and distribution that could be cited; at the moment, there's an external link to some photos and drawings, but I haven't been able to find any source for a textual description online.  —[[User:Ilmari Karonen|Ilmari Karonen]] <small>([[User talk:Ilmari Karonen|talk]])</small> 23:13, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

:Actually, i started the articles of almost all 550 salticid genera :) Very nice find that, I didn't know about this. I had heard about several salticids drinking some nectar, but this was new to me. Jerzy Proszynski has some pictures on his salticid page; I have asked Eric Olson if he donates a picture to wikipedia.
:I got rid of the cite references within the text. I think they are an abomination if you want to edit the text later. check out the way i do it at the moment, it's not perfect, but after a lot of thought seems to be the best possible way to me and several other people. cheers! --[[User:Sarefo|Sarefo]] ([[User talk:Sarefo#top|talk]]) 15:55, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

::Thanks a lot for the improvements!  As it happens, I hadn't heard about this outside Wikipedia either — I found out about it when someone posted a hoax article at [[vegetarian spider]] (now a redirect, see [{{fullurl:Vegetarian spider|oldid=233144597}} old revision]) and I spotted it on a random glance at [[Special:Newpages]].  Of course, I Googled for the title to confirm that it was indeed a hoax, and was quite surprised to get the ''Science News'' article now cited in the text as the first result.  I guess whoever wrote the hoax page had read about it, searched for "vegetarian spider" on Wikipedia, and, finding no article, decided to create one their own way.  I really should go leave them a note of thanks. :)  —[[User:Ilmari Karonen|Ilmari Karonen]] <small>([[User talk:Ilmari Karonen|talk]])</small> 23:49, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I've nominated [[Bagheera kiplingi]], an article you worked on, for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of [[Wikipedia:Did you know]]. You can see the hook for the article at [[Template talk:Did you know#Articles created/expanded on August 20]], where you can improve it if you see fit. Thanks,  —[[User:Ilmari Karonen|Ilmari Karonen]] <small>([[User talk:Ilmari Karonen|talk]])</small> 02:25, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

== Bagheera kiplingi ==

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== Achaearanea tepidariorum to Parasteatoda tepidariorum? ==
Just wondering if [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_house_spider | this] should be changed to reflect this in accordance with The World Spider Catalog: "removed from the synonymy of Achaearanea Strand, 1929 by Saaristo, 2006: 69, contra Levi, 1955a: 6.". You can see that here: [http://research.amnh.org/entomology/spiders/catalog/THERIDIIDAE.html]
If the change should be made, I will be more than happy to make it.
- [[User:Arachnowhat|Arachnowhat]] ([[User talk:Arachnowhat|talk]]) 01:13, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
: thanks for telling me :) i did the changes, also on the genus page etc., and added some minor stuff. i've been using the wsc as a more or less final reference for some time now, and afaics there were no objections. leave me a note if you have some questions about editing the spider pages! cheers --[[User:Sarefo|Sarefo]] ([[User talk:Sarefo#top|talk]]) 11:09, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

== Good article review: [[spider]] ==

Please join in at [[Talk:Spider/GA1]]. --[[User:Stevenfruitsmaak|Steven Fruitsmaak]] <small>([[User_talk:Stevenfruitsmaak|Reply]])</small> 21:15, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

== DYK for Helaeomyia petrolei ==


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== Picture in german newspaper ==
[[File:Galleria.mellonella.mounted.jpg|thumb|''Galleria mellonella'']]

Dear Sarefo, maybe it is interesting to you that your Picture has been taken to illustrate an article on insect biotechnology in the german newspaper Chemanager. I f you are interested in a scan of that article please contact me on achim.raschka@wikimedia.de. Greetings from germany, -- [[de:Benutzer:Achim Raschka]] 14:23, 20 January 2009 (UTC)  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/213.168.100.227|213.168.100.227]] ([[User talk:213.168.100.227|talk]]) </span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Taxon redirects ==

Hi Sarefo,

I understand your concerns about taxon redirects. I created many of them last summer in order to facilitate the proper functioning of G. species disambiguation pages. After much discussion, it was agreed that while the disambiguation pages were helpful, the redirects were not. As you pointed out, I still create many redirects, however I never create species epithet redirects anymore. I was under the impression that all the ones I had created had been deleted. I apologize that my redirect gave you a false hope for an article on the subject, and hope that no other such redirects have been left in existence.

Happy editing,

[[User:Neelix|Neelix]] ([[User talk:Neelix|talk]]) 00:29, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

PS - How did you come up with the username "Sarefo"? Just curious.

: thanks for your answer :) i can't tell you the details (it's a pseudonym, after all ;), but "sarefo" is an abbreviation of an anagram of my given name, and also a small tribe in southern africa. cheers! --[[User:Sarefo|Sarefo]] ([[User talk:Sarefo#top|talk]]) 08:27, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

==Proposed deletion of Blind spiders==
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== RE: WP:SPI ==

{{talkback|Cabe6403|redirect WP:SPI}}
== Trombidium ==

I'm not interested in contributing to this field myself. When it comes to wildlife plants and mammals are more my thing. I came across this on new page patrol and thought it might help the creator if he is working on them to expand them. The idea is not so they are initially more helpful, it is to branch out and encourage thos einterested to write them, as clearly shown by ''[[Trombidium holosericeum]]''. But if you don't want articles on species started or any for that matter, then don't leave them as red links.[[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <span style="color:#fef;background:black;">'''''Dr. Blofeld'''''</span></span>]]     <sup>[[User talk:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="font-size:x-small; color:black;">White cat</span> ]]</sup> 10:05, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
:seems we perceive the functions of red links differently. imo they are there so that anybody can see there's no information yet on this species, and to make it easier to start the article ''in case'' you have additional information. in this special case ''T. holosericeum'' is really about the only species where additional information can be easily found. i'll try to bring your ''Trombidium'' pages to a minimal standard today, just wanted to make sure you're not starting a stub creation spree, as has happened with other persons in the past, in some cases (BotMultichill and others) essentially creating problems that will take years to fix. cheers! --[[User:Sarefo|Sarefo]] ([[User talk:Sarefo#top|talk]]) 10:22, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
If you are concerned about me starting similar pages then you can be rest assured i will not. Enough of my own time is devoted to cleaning up existing articles related to geography let alone starting more empty artices and increasing the burden on others. Besides which getting the articles on genus onto here should be given priority and getting them up to a decent standard, articles on species come later.[[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <span style="color:#fef;background:black;">'''''Dr. Blofeld'''''</span></span>]]     <sup>[[User talk:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="font-size:x-small; color:black;">White cat</span> ]]</sup> 10:38, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

:no, i only had this concern when first contacting you. yes, i also think there's much to be done on genera, but it's sometimes quite hard to find good taxonomic sources (i created some garbage pages myself, especially on mites, before realising this). right now, i think it's better to have fewer pages with reliable information, than just to blanket the space with questionable information, because yes, this often creates a long tail of manual clean-up work. that's hopefully not a problem with ''Trombidium'', but in other cases, the species list was bad, leading to dozens of semi-automatically created garbage pages, so i've grown to be a bit cautious in this respect. thanks for the huge load of contributions to wikipedia, we'll probably not run out of stuff to do for the next decades ;) --[[User:Sarefo|Sarefo]] ([[User talk:Sarefo#top|talk]]) 10:48, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

== Lutica - assessment ==

In the interest of staying neutral and avoiding a conflict of interest, would you mind doing the assessment of the [[Lutica]] article for me or pass it along to someone else?

Thanks, [[User:Subverted|<span style="color:#00CC00;font-family:Georgia, Helvetica;">Subverted</span>]] ([[User talk:Subverted|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Subverted|contribs]]) 23:30, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
:thanks for the note, and for the article! i did some minor changes, some of which i want to explain shortly:
:* describer year not wikified, this was iirc agreed on some time ago.
:* removed dagger sign, as it could be mistaken for "extinct" symbol
: btw, i rate my articles myself all the time :) i think there are [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Spiders/Article Classification|quite objective criteria]], and i personally have no problems rating my articles stub/low importance ;) but i seem to have a slightly different opinion on what's still stub and what's already start.
:cheers! --[[User:Sarefo|Sarefo]] ([[User talk:Sarefo#top|talk]]) 00:29, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

==DYK nomination of Harpactea==
[[Image:Symbol question.svg|25px]] Hello! {{#ifeq:yes|no|An article you have been editing &ndash;- {{#if:Harpactea|[[Harpactea]]&nbsp;}} &ndash;- was recently nominated by another user at [[T:TDYK|Did you know]], to be featured on the main page.  The nomination has now been reviewed, and}}{{#ifeq:yes|yes|Your submission {{#if:Harpactea|of [[Harpactea]]{{#if:|&nbsp;and [[{{{extra}}}]]}}}} at the [[Template talk:DYK|Did You Know nominations page]] has been reviewed, and}} there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath {{#if:Harpactea|'''{{T:TDYK|Harpactea|your nomination's entry}}'''|your nomination's entry}} and respond there as soon as possible.  {{#if:|</br>{{{2}}}|Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!}} <!--Template:DYKproblem--> {{#switch:yes|1|yes=[[User:Smallman12q|Smallman12q]] ([[User talk:Smallman12q|talk]]) 11:05, 12 May 2009 (UTC)}}

==DYK nomination of Harpactea==
[[Image:Symbol question.svg|25px]] Hello! {{#ifeq:yes|no|An article you have been editing &ndash;- {{#if:Harpactea|[[Harpactea]]&nbsp;}} &ndash;- was recently nominated by another user at [[T:TDYK|Did you know]], to be featured on the main page.  The nomination has now been reviewed, and}}{{#ifeq:yes|yes|Your submission {{#if:Harpactea|of [[Harpactea]]{{#if:|&nbsp;and [[{{{extra}}}]]}}}} at the [[Template talk:DYK|Did You Know nominations page]] has been reviewed, and}} there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath {{#if:Harpactea|'''{{T:TDYK|Harpactea|your nomination's entry}}'''|your nomination's entry}} and respond there as soon as possible.  {{#if:|</br>{{{2}}}|Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!}} <!--Template:DYKproblem--> {{#switch:yes|1|yes=[[User:Smallman12q|Smallman12q]] ([[User talk:Smallman12q|talk]]) 20:14, 12 May 2009 (UTC)}}

==DYK nomination of Harpactea_sadistica==
[[Image:Symbol question.svg|25px]] Hello! {{#ifeq:yes|no|An article you have been editing &ndash;- {{#if:Harpactea_sadistica|[[Harpactea_sadistica]]&nbsp;}} &ndash;- was recently nominated by another user at [[T:TDYK|Did you know]], to be featured on the main page.  The nomination has now been reviewed, and}}{{#ifeq:yes|yes|Your submission {{#if:Harpactea_sadistica|of [[Harpactea_sadistica]]{{#if:|&nbsp;and [[{{{extra}}}]]}}}} at the [[Template talk:DYK|Did You Know nominations page]] has been reviewed, and}} there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath {{#if:Harpactea_sadistica|'''{{T:TDYK|Harpactea_sadistica|your nomination's entry}}'''|your nomination's entry}} and respond there as soon as possible.  {{#if:|</br>{{{2}}}|Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!}} <!--Template:DYKproblem--> {{#switch:yes|1|yes=[[User:Smallman12q|Smallman12q]] ([[User talk:Smallman12q|talk]]) 01:03, 14 May 2009 (UTC)}}

== Mites on Harvestmen ==

Hi Sarefo,

Thanks for updating the info on my [[:image:Gewone hooiwagen (Phalangium opilio) met zoeterwatermijtlarven (Hydrachnellae) ONZEKER onderkant.jpg|mite infested harvestman]] - I've known for quite a while that the info was wrong (sorry!). I'll re-upload the images with a better name and add some others with more mites and close-ups of one of the mite larvae/nymphs too. Will let you know here. Cheers, - [[:nl:Overleg gebruiker:Pudding4brains|Pudding]] 22:28, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
::DONE - I've re-uploaded under [[:image:Phalangium opilio with parasitic Mite larvae 20060729 top.jpg|a better name]] checked usage, changed all pages, and 'Badname'd the old versions. Also uploaded a ''Rilaena triangularis'' with [[:image:Mite larva on leg Rilaena triangularis 280.jpg|mite close-up]] and a [[:image:Platybunus pinetorum with mites 20090525 66.jpg|''Platybunus'' with mites]], just in case you might have a use for the images ;o) Cheers - [[:nl:Overleg gebruiker:Pudding4brains|Pudding]] 01:48, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
:::thanks a lot :) --[[User:Sarefo|Sarefo]] ([[User talk:Sarefo#top|talk]]) 09:36, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

== Mesothelae ==

On 19:21, 3 August 2006, your changes in [[Mesothelae]] included changing from
:Mesothelae were once two considered to be two families, the Liphistiidae and the Heptathelidae. These can easily be distinguished by their sexual organs and the way they construct their burrows: Liphistiides always have fishing lines in front of the entrance, while Heptathelids have none. Therefore, the latter are more difficult to find.
to
:Mesothelae were once two considered to be two families, the Liphistiidae and the Heptathelidae. The ''Heptathelidae'' were once considered their own family, today they are considered a subfamily of the Liphistiidae (as ''Heptathelinae''). As opposed to all other recent mesothelids, these do not have fishing lines in front of their entrances. Therefore, they are more difficult to find.

This language has largely persisted until now, and I find it confusing, because "entrances" seems to refer to the spiders' bodies, e.g. their mouths, rather than their burrows. In the next few minutes I will put the word "burrows" back to clarify this. [[User:Anomalocaris|Anomalocaris]] ([[User talk:Anomalocaris|talk]]) 21:23, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
: thx for the notice. it's sometimes not easy for a non-native speaker like me to spot ambiguities like this. just ask the guy who wanted to market Mozart balls in the UK ;) --[[User:Sarefo|Sarefo]] ([[User talk:Sarefo#top|talk]]) 23:01, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

==Hallo==
Hi, du bist ja noch aktiv. Auf de:WP werden meine Spinnenartikel mittlerweile von diesen ... Admins gelöscht, weil sie sie für "Unsinn" halten. Wie kann man nur so ___ sein und wie konnte es kommen, dass ausgerechnet in der deutschen Wikipedia so viele mit ähnlicher Intelligenz sich sammeln? Gruß --[[User:Brummfuss|Brutus Brummfuß]] ([[User talk:Brummfuss|talk]]) 14:39, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
:haha, ja das ist einer der hauptgruende warum ich die deutsche meide. hab das am anfang voll abgekriegt und schnell die nase voll gehabt. da drueben herrscht ne komische leitkultur, ist bisschen schade dass leute wie wir darin dann untergehen. ich mach grad nicht so viel, weil ich am lojban-woerterbuch arbeite, aber ich steig vermutlich so ab herbst/winter wieder in die taxonomie ein. gruss! --[[User:Sarefo|Sarefo]] ([[User talk:Sarefo#top|talk]]) 18:47, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
:Hi BB, wenn du etwas an Spinnenartikeln schreiben willst, ich habe Sarefo meine hot picks von Spinnenartikeln geschickt... neue Taxa, unerhörte Farben, bizarre Lebensweisen. Sag einfach mal ein Taxon und er kann schauen ob er was hat, was noch nicht in der WP ist.
:Ansonsten... yeah, die de:. ''[[Eremopezus]]'' hätten sie vermutlich auch gelöscht... weil, steht ja alles mögliche drin, aber nur wenig über ''Eremopezus'' ;-) [[User:Dysmorodrepanis|Dysmorodrepanis]] ([[User talk:Dysmorodrepanis|talk]])

===Hello===
Your photographs of Philodromus aureolus appear to me to be Philodromus dispar male (see page 125 Dick Jones, The Country Life Guide to Spiders of Britain and Northern Europe (1984) {{ISBN|0 600 35655 5}}( and also (see Roberts Dr M. J.,The Spiders of Great Britain and Ireland Vol 1. Page 108 "Male similar to that of P.aureolus but often completely black".
However the photos are excellent and I applaud your attempts at this web site.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/90.215.55.250|90.215.55.250]] ([[User talk:90.215.55.250|talk]]) 12:21, 6 October 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== DYK for Nephila komaci ==


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=== inline citations ===

hi,

thanks for working on the ''[[Nephila komaci]]'' article. would you consider changing the style concerning big inline citations? it makes the text very hard to edit without special tools, cluttering enormously. even i get the creeps when encountering an article with many citations like this, imagine somebody not very versed in wiki markup, he'll be completely lost. i myself, and several other editors i talked to, have from time to time even refrained from editing an article because of inline blocks like these. as a compromise, there is now the practise to add the citation like <nowiki><ref name="kuntner">Kuntner 2009</ref></nowiki> inline, list all these under a Notes section, and then list the full references under a References section. This is really useful for taxonomic articles, to keep the text clean and editable, while at the same time being able to sort the citations cleanly at the end (by date, or alphabet, instead of first occurrence). thanks! --[[User:Sarefo|Sarefo]] ([[User talk:Sarefo|talk]]) 21:57, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

: Hello, Sarefo.  You're welcome.  Thank ''you'' for your work on the ''[[Nephila komaci]]'' article.  
: What you're telling me seems like a pretty good idea.  I've never thought about it.  Thank you for enlightening me on this. 
: Happy editing.  Cheers! --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 14:14, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

== Thought you might be interested... ==

[[Template talk:Taxobox#Diversity link]] [[User:Balfa|Balfa]] ([[User talk:Balfa|talk]]) 19:33, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

== Tribes under [[Dendryphantinae]] ==

Hey Sarefo, I was going to go through and write articles for all the tribes under the [[Dendryphantinae]] subfamily. In the course of doing research for the articles, however, I discovered that the tribes given by Hallan (the source you used) are quite outdated and rather dubious at this point. Specifically, I received an email from Hallan explaining that his catalog of the subfamily is based on the original Roewer catalog of spiders from the 1950s. Phylogenic research done by Maddison, Hedin, and others in the past decade has shown many of those tribe organizations to be almost certainly incorrect, or at best, prematurely determined. In order to keep Wikipedia from propogating dubious taxonomies, I would like to go through and just eliminate our use of all tribe taxons under [[Dendryphantinae]] - [[Dendryphantini]], [[Donaldiini]], [[Rhenini]], [[Rudrini]], [[Zygoballini]]. Let me know if you have any thoughts on the matter. [[User:Kaldari|Kaldari]] ([[User talk:Kaldari|talk]]) 20:22, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
:Also, FWIW, those tribes are completely unused in modern scientific literature on the dendryphantines. [[User:Kaldari|Kaldari]] ([[User talk:Kaldari|talk]]) 21:47, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

:Please, please do! :) I know it sucks, it seemed reasonable enough at the time, and when i realized it, i didn't have the time to correct it, and then forgot. I would be very grateful to you if you updated the taxonomy to a more recent level. Cheers! --[[User:Sarefo|Sarefo]] ([[User talk:Sarefo#top|talk]]) 23:05, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
::Done. I'm not sure what to do about the genus list under [[Dendryphantinae]] though. The list as given in our article is outdated, but I'm not sure what to replace it with. There are several more modern lists, but a lot of them conflict with each other or have problems of their own. Maddison's 1988 list[http://tolweb.org/Dendryphantinae] is tempting, but it's somewhat radical and also outdated. I think I'll just leave it for now until I have more time to review the literature. [[User:Kaldari|Kaldari]] ([[User talk:Kaldari|talk]]) 16:56, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

:Appreciated :) I wish i could do more on salticids again, but i don't have the time at the moment. --[[User:Sarefo|Sarefo]] ([[User talk:Sarefo#top|talk]]) 21:00, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

==Phlogius crassipes==
This is a separate species of spider therefore it is entitled to it's own article. [[Special:Contributions/198.103.184.76|198.103.184.76]] ([[User talk:198.103.184.76|talk]]) 20:16, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

:according to the [http://research.amnh.org/entomology/spiders/catalog/THERAPHOSIDAE.html World Spider Catalog], the genus ''Phlogius'' was synonymized with ''Selenocosmia'' in 2000: 
* Raven, R. J. (2000). Taxonomica Araneae I: Barychelidae, Theraphosidae, Nemesiidae and Dipluridae (Araneae). Mem. Qd Mus. 45: 569-575.

From the WSC:
<blockquote>
The resurrection of Phlogius Simon, 1887 by Schmidt, 1995k: 9 was rejected by Raven, 2000a: 570, who also placed Chilocosmia Schmidt & von Wirth, 1992b: 9, type C. dichromata Schmidt & von Wirth, 1992 and Selenopelma Schmidt & Krause, 1995a: 22, type S. kovariki Schmidt & Krause, 1995 as junior synonyms (see also Schmidt, 2002c: 3).
</blockquote>

as often with theraphosids, there are many concurrently used names, many scientifically invalid. this mainly stems from the fact that most tarantula enthusiasts are hobbyists with only cursory connections to recent scientific literature. wikipedia uses the taxonomic system, but feel free to add any issues regarding the confusing use of different names to the appropriate article, preferably if you can provide a source. you might also contact [http://www.qm.qld.gov.au/organisation/staff/detail.asp?staffName=Raven,Robert Robert Raven] directly, he's a nice guy, and will happily tell you about this issue, whereas i don't have any detailed knowledge about it.

if you have any questions regarding this, please leave me a note :) --[[User:Sarefo|Sarefo]] ([[User talk:Sarefo#top|talk]]) 20:55, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

:Hi, here is the correct genus: 

:*http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Phlogius_crassipes 
:*http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/article/2009/05/06/52245_hpnews.html

::"'''''Queensland Museum spider expert Dr Robert Raven''' identified the arachnid in Mr Geiszler's photograph as the eastern tarantula, which is also known as the whistling spider (Phlogius crassipes) _ the largest spider in Australia.''"

:[[Special:Contributions/76.64.161.76|76.64.161.76]] ([[User talk:76.64.161.76|talk]]) 14:03, 23 November 2009 (UTC)


::i don't know if the name has been resurrected, but just as you seem to be the same person, whether you're called 198.103.184.76 or 76.64.161.76, changing names does not change the identity of the species. as you seem to be visiting wikipedia repeatedly, why not create an account, so there will be less confusion at least in this respect? ;) i've asked Mr. Raven about this, hopefully he will clear this up. cheers! --[[User:Sarefo|Sarefo]] ([[User talk:Sarefo#top|talk]]) 14:26, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

::: Hi Sarefo, I know Dr Robert Raven and I know the story about Selenocosmia (Phlogius) crassipes. Robert is using the name Phlogius crassipes because he knows it to be correct, but it is not yet official in the WSC or the preferred name one would use by following the well established principle of accepting the name of the most recent scientific paper published In a reputable scientific journal. Therefore while Robert uses the name, it hasn't yet been re-resurrected. The situation is kind of amusing in that Robert rejected the resurrection of Phlogius Simon, 1887 by Schmidt, 1995 on solid grounds, determining that Schmidt's argument was insufficient. However, since that time Robert has found that this particular species is indeed Phlogius on different grounds than those proposed by Schmidt, but his updating of the name is awaiting a major revision of Theraphosidae which has been in progress for some time. He now has a PhD candidate helping with the revision. The case of Phlogiellus is a little different, it is not recorded for Australia but it is well known it occurs here and it may have dozens of species, judging by reports. It will probably also be included in the revision. [[User:Robertwhyteus|Robertwhyteus]] ([[User talk:Robertwhyteus|talk]]) 02:44, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

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I recently was visited by the spider pictured here:
[[File:Pisaurina uldulata 11.jpg|thumb|Entered through open front door]]
and I think it is what Kasten calls Pelopatis undulata but is now known as Pisaurina undulata. I've found very few pictures of this species on-line, and there is enough difference in coloration to make me a little unsure. However, unless there is another species with the same eye pattern and the same extremely long legs, I think I'm safe. Have you ever seen one? Any thoughts about identification? Thanks.[[User:Patrick0Moran|P0M]] ([[User talk:Patrick0Moran|talk]]) 07:12, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
:* Hi P0M, ''P. undulata'' is associated with aquatic habitats, does that fit your specimen? I'm not sure it's that species, but I don't have a better idea, so I put a tentative (?) behind the species name. Maybe try at a spider forum such as Dave's Garden? --[[User:Sarefo|Sarefo]] ([[User talk:Sarefo#top|talk]]) 07:42, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
:::I've seen other Pisauridae here. There is a creek withing a quarter of a mile, and I maintain several small ponds that prevent gullies from washing. It's a male, so maybe it was ranging farther than a female would have ranged. I'll try Dave's Garden. Thanks.[[User:Patrick0Moran|P0M]] ([[User talk:Patrick0Moran|talk]]) 19:47, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

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:thanks for the heads up, very interesting :) His two salticid genera seem to be accepted though, Gustavo Ruiz and Wayne Maddison added species to the genus. I'll ask around. --[[User:Sarefo|Sarefo]] ([[User talk:Sarefo#top|talk]]) 09:47, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

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: sure, go ahead :) --[[User:Sarefo|Sarefo]] ([[User talk:Sarefo#top|talk]]) 00:08, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

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== Maintained ==

Thanks for your message on my talk page.  I've added your name as the maintainer of the page.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ACebrennus_rechenbergi&diff=620719006&oldid=619817851] If you don't like that, feel free to remove it, but I think it helps for people to know that there are experts like yourself willing to answer questions.  Thanks. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 03:28, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
:ok! --[[User:Sarefo|Sarefo]] ([[User talk:Sarefo#top|talk]]) 13:21, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

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{{center|1=''the article is unreferenced since its creation in 2006; Google Scholar produces no hits for "Mimetoidea"; all recent reliable sources place both families in Araneoidea as per our article; Google hits are almost all derived from this article which is thus propagating erroneous information.''}}

:I nominated this for deletion largely because I think that its reproduction by mirror and copy-cat sites is creating a misleading situation. No-one now seems to use this superfamily; both families are placed elsewhere (currently in [[Araneoidea]], but previously in [[Palpimanoidea]]). [[User:Peter coxhead|Peter coxhead]] ([[User talk:Peter coxhead|talk]]) 22:54, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
:: sure, go ahead :) thanks for taking on work at the spider section, I tried to build a framework back then, but somehow a critical mass of other editors never happened to take shape. --[[User:Sarefo|Sarefo]] ([[User talk:Sarefo#top|talk]]) 14:49, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

:::The work that you (and a few other editors) did "back then" was great. The problem now is that it definitely needs a "critical mass" of editors to maintain and update the spider articles, and they just aren't around. I intend to finish checking all the superfamily articles and those on taxa and clades between families and infra- and suborders, but updating all the family articles and the all the lists of species by family is too much work without an active WikiProject. Perhaps some new editors will come along... [[User:Peter coxhead|Peter coxhead]] ([[User talk:Peter coxhead|talk]]) 21:49, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

{{ping|Peter coxhead}} Sarefo: I've deleted the page; would either of you be willing to follow this up at the other Wikimedia sites? 
* [[:wikispecies:Mimetoidea]]
* [[:ca:Mimetoïdeu]]
* [[:es:Mimetoidea]]
* [[:it:Mimetoidea]] 
* [[:pt:Mimetoidea]]
* [[:tr:Mimetoidea]]
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== Adding a task force to the WikiProject Insects template ==
Hello! I am trying to organize a Hymenoptera task force (excl. Formicidae, which already has its own task force) to the WikiProject Insects template, and saw your name on the template page. I've [[Template:WikiProject_Insects/sandbox|been playing in the sandbox]] and think I have a version working. Could you please check to see that I haven't broken anything? Thank you so much! [[User:M. A. Broussard|M. A. Broussard]] ([[User talk:M. A. Broussard|talk]]) 00:11, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
:{{replyto|M. A. Broussard}} As things stand, it may work for hymenoptera (although I can't be sure) but it will certainly break the behaviour for ants. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 00:24, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
::{{replyto|Redrose64}} I just tested the template out in my sandbox, with different configurations of the two task forces, and the sandbox version seems to be working, even with categorizing pages. Pages with both task forces are put in both categories. {{replyto|Sarefo}} -- please have a look at the [[Template:WikiProject_Insects/sandbox|WikiProject Insects sandbox]] when you have time.
:::Does it categorise correctly when any one or more of the following parameters: {{para|attention|yes}} {{para|needs-image|yes}} {{para|needs-photo|yes}} are used in combination with {{para|ants|yes}}? --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 12:01, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
::::{{replyto|Redrose64}} - You're right, it didn't work as intended. I've changed the attention/image/photo parameters to the original configuration, leaving only the additional task force code. I believe it works now. [[User:M. A. Broussard|M. A. Broussard]] ([[User talk:M. A. Broussard|talk]]) 01:21, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
:::::Do you need the ''specific'' combination of {{para|attention|yes}}{{para|Hymenoptera|yes}} to put the page into {{cl|Hymenoptera articles needing attention}}? If so, what should be done if all three of {{para|attention|yes}}{{para|Hymenoptera|yes}}{{para|ants|yes}} are given - should the article go into both {{cl|Hymenoptera articles needing attention}} and {{cl|Ant articles needing attention}} or just one - which one? --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 13:29, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
::::::{{replyto|Redrose64}} If both parameters are 'yes', then the page should be put in the relevant ants ''and'' Hymenoptera categories, ideally. [[User:M. A. Broussard|M. A. Broussard]] ([[User talk:M. A. Broussard|talk]]) 10:09, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
:::::::I tried a straight enhancement to the existing code, but it grew into something way too complicated, so didn't save it: I fear that {{tlx|WPBannerMeta}} wasn't designed with multiple attention categories in mind. As it is, the existing code for two different categories when {{para|attention|yes}} is specified with or without {{para|ants|yes}} is something of a hack; I've looked at 40 or so other WikiProject banners - and I can't find ''any'' that attempt to vary {{para|ATTENTION_CAT}} depending on task force combinations. So I turned to another way - hooks, {{diff|Template:WikiProject Insects/sandbox|prev|708972334|like this}}. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 13:50, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
::::::::{{replyto|Redrose64}} I had looked at ~20 WikiProject banners without luck as well. It seems that the template code was not really designed for this sort of abuse! I've run a few quick tests of your new code, and it appears to sort things into the correct categories, but the attention flag is no longer shown on the template itself when one or both task forces are active. I'm willing to throw in the towel and just delete the Hymenoptera needs-image/needs-attention categories. It isn't really a major issue to look at articles needing attention for the main WikiProject, and since it is non-trivial to get the template to assign categories differentially, I don't think it's worth the effort. I'm happy with the task force just being able to tag its own pages. [[User:M. A. Broussard|M. A. Broussard]] ([[User talk:M. A. Broussard|talk]]) 09:52, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
:::::::::We can gain the "This article has been marked as needing immediate attention" message at the expense of dual categorisation. If you alter this line: <syntaxhighlight lang=moin>|attention           = {{#if:{{yesno|{{{Hymenoptera|}}}}}{{yesno|{{{ants|}}}}}||{{{attention|}}} }}</syntaxhighlight> to <syntaxhighlight lang=moin>|attention           = {{{attention|}}}</syntaxhighlight> it will always display the message and put the page in {{cl|Insects articles needing attention}} when {{para|attention|yes}} is set (regardless of other parameters), but will also put the page in {{cl|Hymenoptera articles needing attention}} when {{para|Hymenoptera|yes}} is also set; and in {{cl|Ant articles needing attention}} when {{para|ants|yes}} is also set. If this dual-categorisation is satisfactory (and the ants people are in agreement), we can extend the same technique to images. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 10:07, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
::::::::::{{replyto|Redrose64}} - I contacted the ant task force, and it seems like there are no major objections. I've drafted a version of the template in the template sandbox with the photo and needs-image categories adjusted per your suggestion and it seems to be operating as intended. Could you give it a quick check? <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:M. A. Broussard|M. A. Broussard]] ([[User talk:M. A. Broussard|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/M. A. Broussard|contribs]]) 08:11, 14 March 2016</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
:::::::::::I {{diff|Template:WikiProject Insects/sandbox|prev|710038148|made an adjustment}} - don't know why you were testing for the zeroth-parameter there. Otherwise, looks fine. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 16:10, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
::::::::::::{{replyto|Redrose64}} - I've pushed the changes to the live template--thank you so much for all your help!
:::::::::::::I noticed that the Hymenoptera and Ants taskforces were not showing correctly when {{tlx|WikiProjectBannerShell}} was in use, also that if the old method for setting class (i.e. {{tlx|WikiProject Insects|Start|Low|4=ants=yes}}) was used, it wasn't being passed through to the taskforces. I've {{diff|Template:WikiProject Insects|prev|710184411|fixed those}}, also updated the documentation. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 13:24, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

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== Distribution map update ==

Hi, it does seem that merging Micropholcommatidae into [[Anapidae]] is now accepted widely, and I've updated the articles. The map at [[:File:Distribution.anapidae.1.png]] looks more-or-less correct, but I noticed that there are a few countries missing, based on the World Spider Catalog, so I wondered if you could update the map.

If it helps, I've extracted the unique distributions from [http://www.wsc.nmbe.ch/family/6 WSC]. They are:
Algeria, Argentina, Auckland Is., Belize, Borneo, Brazil, Bulgaria, Burundi, Campbell Is., Caroline Is., Chile, China, Colombia, Congo, Costa Rica, Crozet Is., Eastern Australia, Ecuador, Europe, Germany, Greece, Guyana, Hawaii, Hong Kong, Italy, Jamaica, Japan, Java, Kenya, Korea, Laos, Lord Howe Is., Malaysia, Mascarene Is., Mexico, Mexico to Panama, Montenegro, Namibia, Nepal, New Caledonia, New Guinea, New South Wales, New South Wales to Tasmania, New Zealand, Panama, Peru, Queensland, Queensland to Tasmania, Rwanda, South Africa, St. Vincent, Sumatra, Suriname, Taiwan, Tasmania, Tunisia, Turkey, USA, Venezuela, Victoria, Vietnam, Virgin Is., Western Australia, Zimbabwe.

Some of the small islands don't matter on a map of this scale, I think, but Nepal, Taiwan and Vietnam could usefully be added if you have time. Looking quickly, I think the rest are already there. [[User:Peter coxhead|Peter coxhead]] ([[User talk:Peter coxhead|talk]]) 20:15, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
: thanks, done :) --[[User:Sarefo|Sarefo]] ([[User talk:Sarefo#top|talk]]) 07:51, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

::Great, thanks. (The Nepal distribution looks very odd, but it's what the source says!) [[User:Peter coxhead|Peter coxhead]] ([[User talk:Peter coxhead|talk]]) 09:39, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
::: sometimes, a species gets placed in the wrong genus/family. Happened to some salticids with "strange" distribution. --[[User:Sarefo|Sarefo]] ([[User talk:Sarefo#top|talk]]) 18:58, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

== Entertained ==

I was entertained by the Validity section in [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Soesiladeepakius&type=revision&diff=513510849&oldid=481890550 this edit] of yours, which I've just come across. Probably not in line with various WP guidelines, but accurate, or so it seems to me. [[User:Peter coxhead|Peter coxhead]] ([[User talk:Peter coxhead|talk]]) 20:03, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

== Spider lists  ==

Hi Sarefo, you mentioned on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_common_spiders_of_Australia#Type_of_spider.3F that the list referred to was useful. I think so, but I think it could be improved. I don't think all the spiders are common, and some have old, outdated names. I will update it. My references include the recently published A Field Guide to Spiders of Australia CSIRO Publishing http://www.publish.csiro.au/book/6899/ admittedly it's my book, bit it was thoroughly vetted and scientifically reviewed by every expert I could find prior to publication, so it's fairly accurate as far as we know. if you email me at rob@toadshow.com.au I will send you a pdf of the Table of Contents and the Index so you can see what is in it. Cheers. PS I like Jumping Spiders too.[[User:Robertwhyteus|Robertwhyteus]] ([[User talk:Robertwhyteus|talk]]) 02:27, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
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== Russelia species list verification ==

While trying to fix the issues in the [[Russelia]] article I came to find that you were the one to have added the rather larger and unfortunatly unreferenced list of species. I was wondering if you still remembered what your source was while editing this 10 year old edit and if so if you can give the reference. As it is, it is rather problematic. [[User:Dondville|Dondville]] ([[User talk:Dondville|talk]]) 14:50, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
:: I can't remember or find it; feel free to change it as fits (remove, source, …) --[[User:Sarefo|Sarefo]] ([[User talk:Sarefo#top|talk]]) 03:36, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
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== Image of ''Rhene flavicomans'' ==

I see that you've not been around here lately, but I was interested in your beautiful [[:File:Rhene_flavicomans_male_Hong_Kong_dorsal.jpg|images of ''Rhene flavicomans'']]. Based on the images in Prószyński's Salticidae database, the identification looks spot-on, but none of the sources I can find says that the species occurs in China. Perhaps you've added to the distribution? [[User:Peter coxhead|Peter coxhead]] ([[User talk:Peter coxhead|talk]]) 18:56, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

: It's [https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?locale=en&place_id=7613&subview=grid&taxon_id=416293 not an uncommon spider in Hong Kong]. If you're interested, [https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?place_id=any&subview=grid&user_id=portioid&verifiable=any all of these] (on iNaturalist) are available via CC-BY-SA. --[[User:Sarefo|Sarefo]] ([[User talk:Sarefo#top|talk]]) 03:50, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

::Interesting, thanks. It's curious that there's no apparent 'official' record of the species in China. [[User:Peter coxhead|Peter coxhead]] ([[User talk:Peter coxhead|talk]]) 08:33, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | Working back through spider family articles from Zoropsidae to Actinopodidae, imagine my surprise when I find that one of the largest spider families is largely already done. Thanks for all your hard work! <span style="font-family:Courier;">[[User:Sesamehoneytart|<span style="color:green">Sesame</span>]][[User talk:Sesamehoneytart|<span style="color:blue">honey</span>]][[User:Sesamehoneytart/created articles|<span style="color:red">tart</span>]]</span> 03:19, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
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