[Support #NAB-494698]: Mcidas--Grids not available?

Hi Bill,

re:
> Hookay:
> I will repeat at the outset, we don't need any particular model--we have
> just evolved with what works to get us the particular forecast time and
> parameter we wanted.

OK, gotcha.

> Here are the salient parts of GRDDISP commands, in no particular order (all
> from RTGRIDS, duh). I just went through my files to look.  We've used other
> models, but the ones remaining are what, through experience, we had to do to
> get what we needed, no a priori selection.

OK.

> ALL LEV=500 DERIVE=VOR
> GFS LEV=500 PARAM=Z
> GFS LEV=SFC PARAM=PCP, P, T, SPD
> NAM LEV=500 PARAM=Z
> NAM LEV=SFC PARAM=PCP, P, T, SPD -- also LEV=MSL for some, gleaned by
>                                     combing through the grids.
> 
> Not too difficult after all....we're just trying to make a few forecast maps
> for consumption by intro classes.

So, it may be quite easy for you to change from the old RTGRIDS datasets to
the new RTGRIBS datasets.  If you are game, I would ask you to make a
copy of one of your scripts and make the change to test things out:

change:

- ADDE group from RTGRIDS -> RTGRIBS
- GFS -> GFS-ALL
- NAM -> NAM-ALL
  etc.
- add DATALOC for RTGRIB server: idd.unl.edu, adde.cise-nsf.gov, or 
stratus.al.noaa.gov:

  DATALOC ADD RTGRIBS IDD.UNL.EDU


Everything else should work the same.  After all, it is the same model data
that is being ingested and processed.  The only difference is how the
data is being processed; the group name of the ADDE server that hosts the
data; and the partitioning of the data into datasets.

For comparison, in the "old" (v2006 and previous) way of putting fields
into datasets, there were:

DSINFO GRID RTGRIDS

        Dataset Names of Type: GRID  in Group: RTGRIDS
Name         NumPos   Content
------------ ------   --------------------------------------
ALL           1310    Real-Time Grids
ECMWF           10    Real-Time ECMWF Grids
GFS            300    Real-Time GFS/AVN Grids
MDR             10    Real-Time MDR Grids
MISC            10    Other Real-Time Grids
NAM            120    Real-Time ETA Grids
NGM             40    Real-Time NGM Grids
RUC             80    Real-Time RUC Grids
UKMT           110    Real-Time UK Met Grids

DSINFO -- done

With the GRIB filer method (using a MySQL database), this has changed to:

DATALOC ADD RTGRIBS IDD.UNL.EDU

Group Name                    Server IP Address
--------------------         ----------------------------------------
RTGRIBS                      IDD.UNL.EDU

<LOCAL-DATA> indicates that data will be accessed from the local data directory.

DATALOC -- done
 
DSINFO GRID RTGRIBS

        Dataset Names of Type: GRID  in Group: RTGRIBS

Name         NumPos   Content
------------ ------   --------------------------------------
ALL          99999    All GRIB1 grids
AWC-ALL      99999    AWC - All National Convective Weather Diagnostic grids
AWR-ALL      99999    AWR - All Alaska Waters Regional Wave Model grids
ECM-ALL      99999    ECMWF - All European Cntr for Med range Weather Fcst
ECM-EQME     99999    ECMWF - Equatorial strip (30S - 30N)/Merc
ECM-GLME     99999    ECMWF - Global/Merc
ECM-NWME     99999    ECMWF - NW quad (0-90N 120E - 120W)/Merc
ENP-ALL      99999    ENP - All Eastern North Pacific Regional Wave Model grid
FFG-ALL      99999    FFG - All NWS Flash Flood Guidance System grids
GFS-AKPS     99999    GFS - Alaska/PS; forecast and analysis
GFS-AKPSLRES 99999    GFS - Alaska/PS; low resolution
GFS-AKPSSSIF 99999    GFS - Alaska/PS; analysis - final run
GFS-ALL      99999    GFS - All Global Forecast System grids
GFS-GLME     99999    GFS - Global/Merc; forecast and analysis (thinned)
GFS-GLMELRES 99999    GFS - Global/Merc; low resolution
GFS-GLMENS   99999    GFS - Global/Merc; forecast and analysis (thinned)
GFS-HIME     99999    GFS - Hawaii/Merc; forecast and analysis
GFS-HIMELRES 99999    GFS - Hawaii/Merc; low resolution
GFS-HIMESSIF 99999    GFS - Hawaii/Merc; analysis - final run
GFS-NHPS     99999    GFS - N Hemi/PS; forecast and analysis
GFS-NHPSLRES 99999    GFS - N Hemi/PS; low resolution
GFS-NHPSSSIF 99999    GFS - N Hemi/PS; analysis - final run
GFS-NWME170  99999    GFS - NW Quad/Merc; low resolution (T170)
GFS-NWME62   99999    GFS - NW Quad/Merc; low resolution (T62)
GFS-PRPSLRES 99999    GFS - Puerto Rico/PS; low resolution
GFS-PRPSSSIF 99999    GFS - Puerto Rico/PS; analysis - final run
GFS-USLC     99999    GFS - CONUS/LC
GFS-USPS     99999    GFS - CONUS/PS; forecast and analysis
GFS-USPS2    99999    GFS - CONUS/PS; double resolution
GFS-USPSLRES 99999    GFS - CONUS/PS; low resolution
GFS-USPSSSIF 99999    GFS - CONUS/PS; analysis - final run
ICA-ALL      99999    ICA - All Ice Concentration Analysis grids
ICA-GLME     99999    ICA - Global/Merc
ICA-NHPS     99999    ICA - N Hemi/PS
ICA-SHPS     99999    ICA - S Hemi/PS
ICN-ALL      99999    ICN - All Current Icing Potential grids
MDR-ALL       1000    MDR - Manually Digitized Radar grids
NAH-ALL      99999    NAH - All North Atlantic Hurricane Wave Model grids
NAM-AKPS     99999    NAM - Alaska/PS
NAM-AKPSAWI2 99999    NAM - Alaska/PS (projection used by AWIPS - dbl res)
NAM-AKPSAWIP 99999    NAM - Alaska/PS (projection used by AWIPS)
NAM-ALL      99999    NAM - All North American Mesoscale numerical model grids
NAM-USLC     99999    NAM - CONUS/LC
NAM-USLC2    99999    NAM - CONUS/LC (double res)
NAM-USLCAWI4 99999    NAM - CONUS/LC (projection used by AWIPS - quad res)
NAM-USPS     99999    NAM - CONUS/PS (NGM Super C grid)
NCE-ALL      99999    NCEP - All NCEP quantitative precip forecast grids
NGM-AKPS     99999    NGM - Alaska/PS
NGM-ALL      99999    NGM - All Nested Grid Model grids
NGM-USLC     99999    NGM - CONUS/LC
NGM-USPS     99999    NGM - CONUS/PS
NGM-USPS2    99999    NGM - CONUS/PS (double res)
NPH-ALL      99999    NPH - All North Pacific Hurricane Wave Model grids
OVERFLOW     99999    Overflow grids
RCM-ALL      99999    RCM - All Radar Code Message grids
RFC-ALL      99999    RFC - All River Forecast Center mosaic grids; CONUS/LC
RUC-ALL      99999    RUC - All Rapid Update Cycle model grids
RUC-USLC     99999    RUC - CONUS/LC (isentropic - 80km at 40N)
RUC-USLC2    99999    RUC - CONUS/LC (isentropic - 40km at 40N)
RUC-USLC3    99999    RUC - CONUS/LC (isentropic - 20km at 40N)
RUC-USPS     99999    RUC - CONUS/PS (isentropic - 20km at 40N)
SST-ALL      99999    SST - All Sea Surface Temp Analysis grids
SST-GLME     99999    SST - Global/Merc
SST-GLME2    99999    SST - Global/Merc (double res)
SST-GLMETHIN 99999    SST - Global/Merc (thinned)
SST-NEME     99999    SST - NE Quad/Merc
UKM-ALL      99999    UKMT - All Coastal Ocean Circulation grids; global/Merc
UKM-GLME     99999    UKMT - Global/Merc
UKM-GLMETHIN 99999    UKMT - Global/Merc (thinned)
WHG-ALL      99999    WHG - All sig. wind wave height grids; Great Lakes/LC
WNA-ALL      99999    WNA - All Western North Atlantic Reg. Wave Model grids
WWF-ALL      99999    WWF - All Global Wind-Wave Forecast grids
WWF-GLME     99999    WWF - Global/Merc

DSINFO -- done

Notice that in the new scheme, there is always an all-inclusive set of any
type of data: ALL, GFS-ALL, RUC-ALL, NAM-ALL, etc.  These sets _should_
correspond 1-to-1 with the old RTGRIDS sets: ALL, GFS, RUC, NAM, etc.

> Thanks again, and sorry for all the hassle.

You are welcome, and this is not a hassle (outside of finding and fixing
a bug).

Cheers,

Tom
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Ticket Details
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Ticket ID: NAB-494698
Department: Support McIDAS
Priority: Normal
Status: Closed