Humber Bay Shores Condominium Association

Minutes of the Board of Directors Meeting

November 24, 2015

A meeting of the Board of Directors of the Humber Bay Shores Condominium Association was held on
Tuesday November 24, 2015 at 2240 Lake Shore Boulevard West, Suite 207, Toronto, ON.

Present:

Don Henderson
Tom Arkay
Laura Nash
Kathy Winter
Tim Owen
Marion Crewe
Toni Lisi
Horst Richter
Mike Adamovich
Lida Preyma
Mike Kavanagh
Josephine Petrolo
Jim Faichnie
Sherali Najak
Linda Dakin
Nico Rogers

Bal Harbour
President
Palace Pier
Treasurer
Marina Del Rey, Phase III Secretary
Grand Harbour A&B
Director at Large
Grand Harbour C
Hearthstone By The Bay
Marina Del Rey, Phase I (Stand In for Jonathan Isaacs)
Marina Del Rey, Phase II
Nautilus
Newport Beach
Palace Place
Voyager 1 & 2
Waterford
Director at Large
Waterscapes
Explorer (By Proxy)
Waterford (By Proxy)

and by invitation,
Peter Milczyn
MPP, Etobicoke-Lakeshore
Wendy McNaughton Assistant to Peter Milczyn
Sue Grimes
Recording Secretary, Broadmoor Meeting Services
Regrets:

1.

Jim Reekie
Joyce Luesink
David White
Wayne Lakey
Jay Perry
Irene Nordlander
Mario DeSantis
TBA

Palace Place
Vice President
Beyond the Sea, Phase I, 15 Legion Rd.
Beyond the Sea, Star Tower, 2230 Lake Shore
Grenadier Landing
Nevis
South Beach, Blue Tower
South Beach, Green Tower
Grand Harbour Townhouses

CALL TO ORDER

Mr. Henderson presided as Chair and, with a quorum of members present, called the meeting to order at
7:05 p.m.

2.

QUORUM

Quorum was achieved.

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REVIEW OF AGENDA - APPROVAL

On a motion by Ms. Preyma, seconded by Mr. Arkay it was resolved to approve the agenda as
presented.
The motion carried
Mr. Henderson requested a motion to adjourn the meeting in advance of the discussion with Peter
Milczyn regarding Humber Bay Shores traffic and transportation issues. The discussion has been
summarized under separate cover.
Adjourn Meeting
On a motion by Ms. Preyma, seconded by Mr. Arkay it was resolved to adjourn the November 24, 2015
meeting of the Board of Directors of the Humber Bay shores Condominium Association at 7:08 p.m.
The motion carried
Reconvene Meeting
The discussion with Mr. Milczyn having been completed, Mr. Henderson requested a motion to
reconvene the meeting. Ms. Preyma excused herself from the meeting at this time, (8:00 p.m.).
On a motion by Ms. Adamovich, seconded by Ms. Nash it was resolved to reconvene the November 24,
2015 meeting of the Board of Directors of the Humber Bay Shores Condominium Association at 8:05
p.m.
The motion carried

4.

APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF HBSCA MEETING HELD SEPTEMBER 29, 2015

Mr. Henderson asked if there were any comments regarding the previous Board meeting minutes. There
being none, Mr. Henderson requested a motion to approve the minutes as presented.
On a motion by Mr. Najak, seconded by Mr. Owen, it was resolved to approve the minutes of the
HBSCA meeting held September 29, 2015 as presented.
The motion carried

5.

EXECUTIVE REPORT

The HBSCA Traffic Committee, consisting of Mr. Henderson, Ms. Preyma, Mr. Reekie and Mr. Faichnie
meet four times a year with Councillor Mark Grimes and the City of Toronto Transportation Services
Department to discuss traffic issues specific to Humber Bay Shores. Recent accomplishments include
installation of a three way stop at Marine Parade Drive and Waterfront Drive, and the passing of
Councillor Grimes motion to close off the Gardiner Expressway exit to Park Lawn Road during morning
rush hours. It is estimated that this closure could reduce traffic through the community by 40 per cent
during peak hours.
Mr. Henderson and Mr. Reekie communicate regularly with local developers concerning traffic disruption
caused by the construction. Councillor Grimes support on this issue resulted in the City of Toronto
installing a traffic officer, at the developers cost, between 5 a.m. and 9 a.m. at the Lake Shore and Park
Lawn intersection to ticket construction vehicle drivers when necessary. At a December 16 meeting with
the City of Toronto and local construction crews, this issue and others including traffic calming strategies,
re-lining or re-paving certain areas, converting the right hand lane along Lake Shore Blvd W. just east of
the Esso Station to a staging lane will be discussed.
With the most recent survey in the Humber Happenings publication, community input on various traffic
issues is being invited. Mr. Henderson reported a good level of participation with this survey which
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included a question on the 7:00 a.m. to 9:00 a.m. weekday closure of the Gardiner Expressway to Park
Lawn Rd. Of 1,100 respondents, 70% supported this action, and Councillor Grimes motion for a test
trial has passed. In the same survey, 66% supported moving the Humber Loop to Park Lawn Rd., and the
Legion Road extension planned for 2020/21 at an estimated cost of $50 million also received 66%
support.
Mr. Henderson attended an OMB hearing at which Mystic Point Condominium Association and the City
of Toronto were opposing a proposed 48 story development in the Mystic Point area. The purpose of Mr.
Hendersons attendance was to represent HBSCA in regards to any resulting traffic implications through
Humber Bay Shores created by this development. If the opposition is successful, development density for
this project will be 80% of the original plan.
HBSCA executive have also been consulting with Mr. Milczyn regarding how to assist him in obtaining
approval for a Park Lawn Go train stop. Mr. Henderson emphasized that engaging broader community
support for HBSCAs efforts on this and other matters will include Humber Happenings surveys, and
could also include a letter writing campaign by the President of each HBSCA member Board. Mr. Najak
noted that newer buildings are not yet set up with electronic communication systems and so are somewhat
limited in how they communicate with their residents.
Mr. Henderson noted that the Directors Meet and Greet scheduled for December 10 will be an
opportunity to solicit support from condominium boards, and Mr. Henderson requested that all HBSCA
Directors encourage their board members to attend.
Mr. Henderson then welcomed Ms. Crewe as the new representative for Hearthstone.
On a motion by Mr. Owen, seconded by Mr. Faichnie it was resolved to accept and welcome Marion
Crewe as the new representative for Hearthstone By The Bay.
The motion carried
Mr. Henderson also thanked Toni Lisi for standing in for Jonathan Isaacs representing Marina Del Rey
Phase I.

6.

TREASURERS REPORT

Mr. Arkay presented the Financial Statements for the period ending October 31, 2015. Of note was
Accounts Receivable totaling $31,670, of which $10,000 related to the previous years outstanding
pledges for money, with the balance being membership fees billed in October and still outstanding.
Under Revenue, it was noted that the September Golf Tournament generated a profit of $1,103 and
Advertising showed a net cost of $9,406 representing the cost for publication of the fourth issue of the
calendar year and the unexpected additional cost to switch to a new publisher, which is still being
negotiated with the previous publisher. With Mr. Arkay having completed his report, Mr. Henderson
requested a motion to receive the Financial Statements.
Minor clarifications were requested by Directors and Mr. Arkay explained that surplus funds are
expended on community projects, such as the seating area behind Newport Beach Condominiums to the
east of Jean Augustine Park.
On a motion by Mr. Olsen, seconded by Mr. Faichnie, it was resolved to receive the Financial
Statements for the period ending October 31, 2015 as presented.
The motion carried

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7.

COMMITTEE REPORTS

a.

Communications/Outreach
Mr. Henderson reviewed the circumstances and the process regarding the switch from Media
Matters to a new Humber Happenings publisher, and the unexpected costs of approximately
$5,000 related to problems with receiving the production files from Media Matters in a format
incompatible for transfer to the new publisher.
An editor of the new publishing house will work on advertising and editorial in the same manner
as previous, unless or until an HBSCA volunteer chooses to assume all or part of the role. The
summer student who was hired to work on advertising among other things, is compiling a
spreadsheet of advertising detail to hand off to the HBSCA. It is hoped that future advertising
sales will cover the cost of the publication, which has become a hallmark of HBSCA identity, and
a significant tool for additional outreach to the community.

b.

Traffic and Transportation

There was nothing further to discuss.

c.

Planning and Infrastructure

There was nothing to report.

8.

OLD BUSINESS

There was no old business to discuss.

9.

NEW BUSINESS

Ms. Petrolo asked for an update on the bike issue. Mr. Henderson reaffirmed that the intent is to remove
high speed cyclists from the path. However, the new design for the path, for which construction is
expected to begin in the spring, includes widening the path to accommodate mixed use, but to create
access restrictions to the bridges requiring cyclists to dismount.
There was lengthy discussion including suggestions to improve path markings to more clearly identify
pedestrian and bicycle separation on the existing lane until better solutions are installed. HBSCA
members continued to express frustration with the lack of police enforcement of traffic laws on Marine
Parade Drive and the inability of Police Services to fine cyclists for unsafe behaviour because the path is
not governed by the Motor Vehicle Act.
Mr. Henderson advised that Councillor Grimes met recently with the cycling community to obtain their
input, and he assured Board members that HBSCA representatives will continue to oppose cycling on the
path at the December Traffic and Transportation meeting with Councillor Grimes and City officials.
Mr. Faichnie and Mr. Owen left the meeting during the following discussion at 8:53 p.m. and 8:56 p.m.
respectively.
Mr. Henderson reported that a contra lane is being installed along the south side of Lake Shore Blvd W.
between Norris Crescent and First Street to accommodate cyclists on roadways, and HBSCA executive
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will be asking for this type of lane to be carried through Humber Bay Shores for use by high speed
cyclists.
Ms. Petrolo stated that left hand and right hand access onto Brookers Lane from Lake Shore Blvd W must
be taken into consideration during these discussions, as this issue impacts five condominiums. Mr.
Henderson encouraged the five condominiums to form a collective voice on the issue, as they would be
the most effective advocates for their specific needs and could recommend solutions.
The five corporations will be meeting with Councillor Grimes in December regarding the Village Court
and could consider raising the access issue at that time. However, Ms. Petrolo emphasized that residents
do not have the expertise that civil engineers do to identify infrastructure solutions especially in the
context of larger issues.
Mr. Henderson also advised that the HBSCA executive are opposing a City of Toronto proposal to install
a contra lane along Waterfront Drive. Mr. Henderson reaffirmed the need for member participation, and
anyone interested in attending the next Traffic and Transportation meeting with Councillor Grimes and
City officials was encouraged to do so.
Toronto Police Services representatives will be invited to the next HBSCA meeting.

10.

MONTHLY REVIEW OF COMMON ISSUES

There was no discussion.

11.

NEXT MEETING

The next Board of Directors meeting will be held on:

Monday, February 29 2016 at 7:00 p.m.
The Directors Meet and Greet will be held on Thursday, December 10, 2015 at Mimico Cruising Club.

12.

TERMINATION

There being no further business, the Chair requested a motion to terminate the meeting.
On a motion by Mr. Najak, seconded by Ms. Petrolo, it was resolved to terminate the November 24,
2015 meeting of the Board of Directors of the Humber Bay Shores Condominium Association at 9:10
p.m.
The motion carried

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HUMBER BAY SHORES CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION

Board of Directors Meeting, November 24, 2015
LIST OF APPROVED MOTIONS

1.

Approval of Agenda
On a motion by Ms. Preyma, seconded by Mr. Arkay it was resolved to approve the agenda as
presented.
The motion carried

2.

Adjourn Meeting
On a motion by Ms. Preyma, seconded by Mr. Arkay it was resolved to adjourn the November
24, 2015 meeting of the Board of Directors of the Humber Bay shores Condominium Association
at 7:08 p.m.
The motion carried

3.

Reconvene Meeting
On a motion by Ms. Adamovich, seconded by Ms. Nash it was resolved to reconvene the
November 24, 2015 meeting of the Board of Directors of the Humber Bay Shores Condominium
Association at 8:05 p.m.
The motion carried

4.

Approval of September 29, 2015 Board Meeting Minutes

On a motion by Mr. Najak, seconded by Mr. Owen, it was resolved to approve the minutes of
the HBSCA meeting held September 29, 2015 as presented.
The motion carried

5.

New Representative for Hearthstone Ms. Marion Crewe

On a motion by Mr. Owen, seconded by Mr. Faichnie it was resolved to accept and welcome
Marion Crewe as the new representative for Hearthstone By The Bay.
The motion carried

6.

Financial Statements October 31, 2015

On a motion by Mr. Olsen, seconded by Mr. Faichnie it was resolved to receive the Financial
Statements for the period ending October 31, 2015 as presented.
The motion carried

7.

Termination of Meeting
On a motion by Mr. Najak, seconded by Ms. Petrolo, it was resolved to terminate the November
24, 2015 meeting of the Board of Directors of the Humber Bay Shores Condominium Association
at 9:10 p.m.
The motion carried

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Humber Bay Shores Traffic and Transportation Issues MPP Mr. Peter Milczyn
Mr. Milczyn represented Mimico-New Toronto as a past City of Toronto Councillor and, in addition to
his position as TTC Commissioner for eight years, he also Chaired the Planning and Growth Committee,
which initiated development of a Transportation Master Plan for the Greater Toronto Area (GTA) with
the intent for it to be integrated with the City of Torontos Official Plan regarding land use.
Mr. Milczyn advised that the Transit Town Hall Meeting scheduled for December 8 with the provincial
Minister of Transportation, Mr. Steven Del Duca, would be postponed to the new year. The purpose of
the meeting will be to review with the community the Provinces investments in transit for the GTA, and
specifically the west end. Discussion will cover a couple of the main transit corridors running through
Etobicoke-Lakeshore: the Lakeshore West and Milton Go lines for which the Province is responsible.
The Lakeshore West Corridor Study currently underway will identify how to implement the
electrification of the Lakeshore West Go line, which will result not only in better air quality, but more
frequent and faster service because the electrified trains will be better equipped than diesel to accelerate
and break, which raises the potential for addition Go train stops.
The other initiative for Etobicoke-Lakeshore currently in the request for proposal stage, and for which a
formal announcement is forthcoming, is the Kipling Mobility Hub designed to integrate new facilities for
Mississauga Transit, Go Transit and the Kipling subway station, resulting in less bus congestion on some
roads, less pollution and faster commutes.
Specifically related to HBSCAs interest in a Go stop at Park Lawn, Mr. Milczyn reported that before
amalgamation, as far back as the late 1980s the City of Etobicoke had identified the potential for an
additional or replacement Go stop at Park Lawn, and as Chair of the Planning and Growth Committee,
Mr. Milczyn raised a motion for City staff to look at growth options for a new Go stop at or near Park
Lawn. The motion generated significant discussion with Metrolinx, and the recent closure of the Christie
factory has now created an excellent opportunity for Metrolinx to become part of the future planning and
development of this property.
Metrolinx is currently conducting a station study along all Go train corridors in the GTA which will
consider the potential locations for additional stations. The list, which started with 120 potential sites, has
been shortlisted to 57, including Roncesvalles, Park Lawn and New Toronto/Kipling. On the Milton line,
Dundas/Royal York, East Mall and West Mall are still on the list. In an attempt to better integrate the Go
system with various other transit systems, the Study is considering the viability of installing Go stops
where the train corridor intersects the subway system.
The shortlist will be further shortened to identify locations that are both technically feasible and have a
strong business case to be built. With the development that has occurred in and near Humber Bay Shores
in recent years, Mr. Milczyn could not think of any other location in the GTA where a Go stop, from the
day it opened, would have such a large population within actual walking distance of the stop. Mr.
Milczyn emphasized the synergy that has developed now that a land use discussion and a transit
discussion can happen at the same time. As well, having such a significant transit hub incorporated into
the development of the Christie site will also enhance the appeal to developers of the property as an
employment site.
Mr. Milczyn also advised that the Presto fare system will be implemented on the TTC by the end of 2016,
which will facilitate the integration of the various transit services and their diverse fare systems.
Mr. Milczyn concluded his statements by encouraging the Humber Bay Shores community to support his
efforts on these matters by helping to build local support for the Go stop in every way possible. For
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example, a postcard campaign or petitions could be coordinated to identify to Metrolinx and City officials
how many people in the community currently not using the Go train, would use the train at a Park Lawn
stop. Confirming through a petition that a few thousand new riders could be added to the system as soon
as it opened would provide a significant business case for the stop, and would have more influence on
decision makers than would evidence of broader community support for the stop simply because it would
help alleviate traffic congestion.
In terms of timing, Mr. Milczyn advised that a shorter list of proposed stops would be confirmed by the
end of 2016 but, realistically, the timeline for a local station to be open for business would be 10 years.
The lengthy timeline would be required by the complex planning process to identify that the location is
viable, negotiating land transfers, and the design, tendering and construction of infrastructure, and all this
in conjunction with the planning, marketing and construction undertaken by the Christie site developer.
Although the timeline is long, Mr. Milczyn emphasized, that there would never again be a more
opportune time than right now to become part of the expansion plan.
It was also noted that, in the event that Park Lawn was not chosen for a Go stop, discussion would
immediately turn to the development of a transit link the HBSCA population would need to access the
chosen local stop.
Although significant frustration was expressed regarding the lengthy timeline required for infrastructure
planning, Mr. Owen stated that it was exactly because people did not plan 10 years ago that the
community was in the situation it is now, and the community today has a responsibility to plan for the
future, even for times when current residents will not be present.
In response to Ms. Crewes concern regarding the Mimico and Long Branch Go stations low level of
accessibility, Mr. Milczyn advised that work is currently underway to retrofit Go stations with elevators
and this work should be completed by 2018.
Mr. Henderson reiterated the importance of gaining concrete community support through Humber
Happenings surveys, and stated his confidence that the community could rely on Mr. Milczyns guidance
and support to lobby for Park Lawn to remain on the priority list for a Go stop.
Regarding interest in more immediate improvements in transit service, Mr. Milczyn confirmed that the
TTC has tried every combination of existing streetcar service from Queen St and King St to Lake Shore
Blvd W. to improve service, short of building a dedicated right-of-way or increasing the frequency of
service. He confirmed that there is a reluctance among decision makers to do anything that impedes car
traffic. The challenge with increasing the King Streetcar service to Lake Shore Blvd W. would occur at
Roncesvalles where traffic for the left hand turn onto the Queensway is consistently backed up, especially
during afternoon rush hour.
Mr. Milczyn also provided a brief history of the complex discussion surrounding possible widening of the
Humber Bridge, which proved in the end to be cost prohibitive. The municipality had acquired, at
significant cost, a small strip of Palace Pier land from which minor expansion was completed, including a
pedestrian walkway. Mr. Arkay explained that any further appropriation of Palace Pier land would have
required demolition of a portion of the Palace Pier garage. This issue was being debated prior to
amalgamation with discussion occurring between the City of Etobicoke and Metropolitan Toronto
governments. Mr. Milczyn suggested that although amalgamation has proven problematic at times, it
could have helped achieve a more suitable resolution to the bridge discussion, albeit still inadequate for
Humber Bay Shores current traffic issues.
Ms. Preyma suggested the need for improvements to the Union Express bus service, including a round
trip fare reduction from $12.00 to $6.00, to incentivize people to use it. Mr. Milczyn recommended that,
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with ridership well established, the community should petition for the TTC to turn the service into a
regular TTC bus service, even if only for the busiest times of the day.
Mr. Najak reiterated the need of the five condominiums accessing Brookers Lane, for a right hand turn
lane instead of a bike lane eastbound at Lake Shore Blvd W. Mr. Milczyn confirmed that this issue falls
under City of Toronto jurisdiction.
There being no further questions, Mr. Henderson thanked Mr. Milczyn and Ms. MacNaughton for their
attendance.

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