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Overview

Explanations of Psi,
Speculations on Soul

About materialism opinion


Meaning for psi, phenomena, physics

About psi and physics theory


How did the information/correlation get there?

Richard Shoup
Boundary Institute
San Jose, California, USA
rshoup@boundary.org

Copyright 2009 - All Rights Reserved

End of Materialism?

... cant explain psi


... cant explain reincarnation
... cant explain consciousness
... leads to suffering
... implies no meaning or purpose
... implies no responsibility

About the soul speculation


Hauntings, reincarnation, mediums, etc.

About future research suggestions


Experiments, Theory, toward acceptance
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Physics Today
Deeply wrong: Complete rewrite necessary
Incomplete: Major extensions necessary
Slightly wrong: Some tweaks necessary
Misinterpreted: New point of view needed
...
Complete and correct: All else is hallucination

".. the report of my death was an exaggeration." Mark Twain


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Key Anomaly: Psi


Traditional taxonomy inappropriate, misleading
Telepathy, Clairvoyance, Precognition, Psychokinesis different aspects of the same natural phenomenon
Important properties (hints), from the evidence
Time/order independence (clairvoyance vs precognition)
Complexity independence (goal orientation)
Selectivity problem (resonance, tuning in)
Experimenter effect (attitude, audience)
Effect small (in principle?), unavailable to evolution
Real physical phenomena, poorly understood
Not poor technique or analysis, fraud, hallucination, etc.
Analogy to history of electromagnetism
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Quantum Dynamics
1.

Common sense - cause before effect, unidirectionally


Experiments cause their results, not the other way around
But the laws of physics are time-symmetric
Exception?: random collapse of the wavefunction

All philosophers imagine that causation is one of the fundamental axioms of


science, yet oddly enough, in advanced sciences the world cause never
occurs. The law of causality, I believe, is a relic of a bygone age, surviving,
like the monarchy, only because it is erroneously supposed to do no harm.
-- Bertrand Russell, 1913
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REG/RNG:
Uninfluenceable, Unpredictable

Unitary evolution
(Schrdinger equation)

2.

Law of Causality?

linear, unitary, conservative,


reversible, deterministic

Measurement (collapse
of the wavefunction)

non-linear, non-unitary, nonconservative, irreversible,


random, unpredictable

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RNG

- No inputs (external influences)


- No memory (internal history)

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Simple Experiment - Paths

past

Randomness vs. Backward Influence

event

random
event

event

event

unitary measurement no random collapse retrocausal influence

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from the past


common cause

Not really a generator, but a receiver


Reflection of output (dependencies)
No such thing as causeless action
Output appears random due to complex future events

More Interesting Phenomena


Psychometry, location psi
Imprints in objects, tuning in

Hauntings, ghosts
Location-specific, emotional imprints

Reincarnation phenomena

Effects can be understood without injury to physics


QMeasurement is unitary -- no collapse
Events are connected through past or future interactions
Causal influence forward and backward (relational)
Every interaction is mutual, a symmetrical dance.
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from the future


retrocausal

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Origin of Apparent Randomness?


RNG is best thought of as an empty box

in the present
info transfer,
new force, field

Memories, personality, birthmarks, etc.

Medium communication
Tuning in, interaction, information

...
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Soul & Survival too simple


Apparent reincarnation seen in children ages 2-6 yrs
Some clues and speculations:
Memories seem to be implanted, as ordinary memories,
not just accessed externally or tuning into past life records
Not just memories, but personality, info about death, life, etc.
Not coded in DNA, so must be implanted after conception
Perhaps tuning to a previous individual occurs at the cellular
level during highly-sensitive processes early in gestation
Birthmarks, scars also suggest early cellular-level influence
Specific predecessor person, not general psi ability
Some cases of memories of still-living persons, some cases of
memories of multiple past lives
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Non-material Soul/Self?
Evidence: Consciousness/Self/Soul
Not things, but structures, patterns, systems

Buddhists view: Self/Soul, materialism

reincarnation of a person's energy pattern


desired state: egoless impermanence
materialism misinterpreted suffering
belief is the source of all evil in the world

re Experience: A voltmeter cant measure itself.


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Parts = Whole?

www.thesoulstoragecompany.com
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Reductionism & Mereology

Parts

Structure

Whole

non-physical info, but must be stored physically


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Tart Questions
Q: Do psi phenomena require extending physics?
A: Only small modifications to quantum theory.
Q: Can a physical theory of psi be empirically tested?
A: Yes, of course, otherwise its not a valid theory.
Q: Will machines someday demonstrate psi?
A: Yes, and some already do, e.g. via PK.
Q: Have physical theories of psi been useful?
A: Not so much ... yet.
Q: Would a non-material soul require extending physics?
A: No, if the soul is basically neural structure.
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www.boundary.org
www.GotPsi.org
"I was thrown out of college for cheating on the metaphysics exam;
I looked into the soul of another boy." -- Woody Allen
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rshoup@boundary.org
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Directions: Experiment

Directions: Theory

Analyze prior experiments and databases (especially large


ones such as the GCP, GotPsi, others) for retrocausal
effects on RNGs and on subjects.
Analyze prior experiments in other scientific fields for
retrocausal and other psi effects.
Carefully control and manipulate the size and complexity
of future dependencies to a stream of random events,
including the experimenter(s).
Examine known physical variables such as local sidereal
time, lunar phase, local geomagnetic fields, etc.
Experiments involving only correlations among RNGs.
The best psychic is a true random generator.

Further implications of unitary measurement,


degree of backwards influence
Evidence of entanglement due to future interactions
Double-boundary conditions, Markov chains
Math models and predictions for real experiments

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Perfect Storm: Non-acceptance


Phenomena are small, elusive, difficult to replicate, strange
Uncontrolled variables, experimenter effect, etc.
Phenomena appear to violate physical laws ***
Rewrite all of physics?... No!
Extremely high noise level in the field
Nonsense, true believers, true dis-believers, etc.
Investigations mostly in the realm of psychology
Negative definitions and terminology
Parapsychology, paranormal, extrasensory, supernatural

Discrete combinatorics (Link Theory)

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Directions: Acceptance
Fundamentally a physics problem
Deeper physical theory that connects
Consistent, plus corroborating evidence

Define phenomena, terms, positively


As anomalies within physics, not outside
No vague consciousness, energy, etc.

Outreach, collaborations, publication, etc.

...But the significance and benefits are (will be) very large!
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Consciousness?

Is Nature Probabilistic?
[QM] yields much, but it hardly brings us
closer to the Old One's secrets. I, in any case,
am convinced that He does not play dice.
A. Einstein, letter to Max Born, 1924

Not only does God definitely play dice, but


He sometimes confuses us by throwing them
where they can't be seen.
S. Hawking, 1995
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Key Elements of Consciousness


Self / Identity: How do you explain my experience, my
internal states, my feelings, my rich inner life, etc?
=> Instead, we should be asking Who is the I?
Conscious phenomena:
emotion, modeling, learning, creativity, Psi, etc
Free Will: Non-determinism, freedom of personal choice
=> Randomness, causeless events?

i.e. Self-awareness
=> recursion?
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Leaps of Consciousness, i.e. Pitfalls


Internal experiences (feelings, qualia) are so inexplicable that
;

quantum physics must be involved in the brain.

A
; conscious observer is necessary and central to quantum
measurement.

Consciousness
phenomena violate physical principles,
;
especially cause-and-effect.
;
Godels theorems imply that the mind cannot be a computer.
Godels theorems imply there are some things we cannot know.
;

;
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... take experience itself as a fundamental feature of the world,


alongside mass, charge, and space-time." David Chalmers

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"A blow to the head will confuse a man, whereas a blow to the foot has no such
effect: this cannot be the result of an immaterial soul." Heraclitus, 500 BCE
"One certainly has a soul; but how it came to allow itself to be enclosed in a body
is more than I can imagine. I only know if once mine gets out, I'll have a bit of
a tussle before I let it get in again to that of any other." -- Lord Byron
"Free will is the ability to do gladly that which I must do." -- C. G. Jung
"One of the proofs of the immortality of the soul is that myriads have believed it?
They also believed the world was flat." -- Mark Twain
"Since our inner experiences consist of reproductions, and combinations of
sensory impressions, the concept of a soul without a body seem to me to be
empty and devoid of meaning." -- Albert Einstein
"'You,' your joys and your sorrows, your memories and your ambitions, your sense
of personal identity and free will, are in fact no more than the behavior of a
vast assembly of nerve cells and their associated molecules." -- Francis Crick,
The Astonishing Hypothesis: The Scientific Search for the Soul (1994)
"I was thrown out of college for cheating on the metaphysics exam: I looked into
the soul of another boy." -- Woody Allen

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