The Case For Trae Young - A Follow Up
The Case For Trae Young - A Follow Up
The Case For Trae Young - A Follow Up
3 CLOSING THOUGHTS
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1 TRAE’S OFFENSIVE IMPACT: PART II
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1 Introduction
• In my initial 42-page long-form paper I attempted to prove (1) why Trae Young’s 2019-20 season was historically impressive despite
the lack of media coverage and respect that’s commensurate with a young player of his caliber, and (2) that Trae was just as impactful
as Luka Doncic offensively.
• While some readers appreciated my arguments, other more statistically-advanced readers correctly pointed out that the paper had
glossed over, omitted, or mischaracterized some key analyses, particularly as it relates to more advanced regression-based impact
metrics. Given the initial target audience for that long-form paper is much less statistically sophisticated, I intentionally excluded
these impact metrics; however, this is my attempt at satisfying all parties.
• Ultimately, the resulting conclusions from examining these advanced impact metrics are the same as those in my prior analysis,
and my assertions remain unchanged: Trae is elite offensively and just as impactful as Luka despite the conventional wisdom
wanting you to believe otherwise.
If you already have a strong understanding of what these impact statistics mean or how they’re derived, you can skip the next page
Sources:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/k4kp42/trae_young_is_better_than_you_think_he_is_a_42/
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1 Offensive Impact Metrics: Definitions
Player Impact Plus-Minus (PIPM) is a plus-minus impact metric that combines luck-adjusted plus-minus data with the
value of the box score and a handful of interaction terms to estimate a player’s value over the course of a season. Using
these luck-adjusted plus-minus values as an input, along with the box score, PIPM is one of the most accurate publicly
available impact metrics in terms of predicting future results.
Real Plus-Minus (RPM) is inspired by the same underlying plus-minus logic and draws on advanced statistical modeling
techniques to isolate the unique plus-minus impact of each NBA player by adjusting for the effects of each teammate
and opposing player. RPM estimates how many points each player adds or subtracts, on average, to his team's net
scoring margin for each 100 possessions played.
The RPM model sifts through more than 230,000 possessions each NBA season to tease apart the "real" plus-minus
effects attributable to each player, employing techniques similar to those used by scientific researchers when they need
to model the effects of numerous variables at the same time. (RPM was developed by Jeremias Engelmann, formerly of
the Phoenix Suns).
RAPTOR, which stands for Robust Algorithm (using) Player Tracking (and) On/Off Ratings, is FiveThirtyEight’s new NBA
statistic. Like Box Plus-Minus (BPM) and RPM, RAPTOR is a plus-minus statistic that measures the number of points a
player contributes to his team’s offense and defense per 100 possessions, relative to a league-average player. For
instance, a player with an offensive RAPTOR rating of +2.1 boosts his team’s performance by 2.1 points per 100 offensive
possessions while he is on the floor.
Plus-minus statistics have certain inherent limitations, and RAPTOR is subject to those, too. Namely, these statistics
assume that player performance is largely linear and additive, that is, that you can roughly add up the ratings from
individual players to project team performance. In other words, RAPTOR does not account for coaching, systems or
synergies between teammates.
NOTE: I EXCLUDED BOX PLUS-MINUS (BPM) BECAUSE IT IS AN INHERENTLY LESS VALUABLE/RELIABLE STATISTIC
THAN THE THREE ABOVE. RPM IS MORE USEFUL AND IS GENERALLY STABLE OVER 1-YEAR TIME PERIODS
Sources:
PIPM: https://www.bball-index.com/player-impact-plus-minus/
PIPM (continued): https://www.bball-index.com/player-impact-plus-minus/#:~:text=Player%20Impact%20Plus%2DMinus%20(PIPM,the%20course%20of%20a%20season
RPM: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/10740818/introducing-real-plus-minus 4
RAPTOR: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-our-raptor-metric-works/
1 Advanced Offensive Impact Metrics Tell The Same Story: Trae is Elite Offensively
Value NBA Rank
Luka Trae Luka Trae
O-PIPM 5.99 5.02 1 3
O-RPM 4.60 6.70 7 2
O-RAPTOR 7.73 7.05 3 4
Simple Average 6.11 6.26 3.7 3.0
Sources:
PIPM: https://www.bball-index.com/player-impact-plus-minus/
PIPM (continued): https://www.bball-index.com/player-impact-plus-minus/#:~:text=Player%20Impact%20Plus%2DMinus%20(PIPM,the%20course%20of%20a%20season.
RPM: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/10740818/introducing-real-plus-minus 5
RAPTOR: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-our-raptor-metric-works/
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0.00
1.00
2.00
3.00
5.00
6.00
7.00
8.00
9.00
4.00
Stephen Curry 2015-2016
8.27
Stephen Curry 2017-2018
Stephen Curry 2016-2017
James Harden 2018-2019
Stephen Curry 2014-2015
Isaiah Thomas 2016-2017
Chris Paul 2014-2015
LeBron James 2016-2017
James Harden 2017-2018
James Harden 2016-2017
Stephen Curry 2018-2019
James Harden 2014-2015
Luka Doncic 2019-2020
5.99
LeBron James 2013-2014
Kevin Durant 2018-2019
LeBron James 2015-2016
Chris Paul 2015-2016
2019-20
Luka Doncic
Russell Westbrook 2016-2017
Russell Westbrook 2015-2016
LeBron James 2017-2018
Russell Westbrook 2014-2015
Kevin Durant 2013-2014
Kevin Durant 2015-2016
Chris Paul 2016-2017
James Harden 2019-2020
LeBron James 2014-2015
Stephen Curry 2013-2014
Kevin Durant 2017-2018
Draymond Green 2015-2016
Trae Young 2019-2020
5.02
0.00
1.00
2.00
3.00
4.00
5.00
6.00
7.00
8.00
10.00
James Harden 2014-2015
9.00 8.66
LeBron James 2013-2014
Russell Westbrook 2014-2015
Stephen Curry 2015-2016
Stephen Curry 2014-2015
James Harden 2018-2019
Stephen Curry 2016-2017
Russell Westbrook 2015-2016
Giannis Antetokounmpo 2019-2020
Russell Westbrook 2016-2017
Trae Young 2019-2020
6.70
James Harden 2017-2018
Stephen Curry 2013-2014
2019-20
Stephen Curry 2017-2018 Trae Young
LeBron James 2016-2017
LeBron James 2015-2016
Chris Paul 2014-2015
James Harden 2016-2017
Kevin Durant 2013-2014
Chris Paul 2015-2016
LeBron James 2019-2020
Chris Paul 2013-2014
LeBron James 2014-2015
James Harden 2019-2020
Stephen Curry 2018-2019
James Harden 2013-2014
Kawhi Leonard 2016-2017
Isaiah Thomas 2016-2017
Damian Lillard 2018-2019
LeBron James 2017-2018
Kevin Durant 2015-2016
James Harden 2015-2016
Chris Paul 2017-2018
Damian Lillard 2017-2018
Chris Paul 2016-2017
Kyle Lowry 2015-2016
Manu Ginobili 2013-2014
Damian Lillard 2019-2020
top 1% of all seasons since 2013-14
0.00
2.00
4.00
6.00
8.00
10.00
12.00
Stephen Curry 2015-2016
James Harden 2018-2019
11.07
Stephen Curry 2014-2015
Stephen Curry 2017-2018
James Harden 2017-2018
Stephen Curry 2016-2017
Chris Paul 2014-2015
Isaiah Thomas 2016-2017
James Harden 2019-2020
James Harden 2016-2017
Damian Lillard 2019-2020
Russell Westbrook 2016-2017
Luka Doncic 2019-2020
7.73
James Harden 2014-2015
Kevin Durant 2013-2014
Stephen Curry 2013-2014
Chris Paul 2017-2018
Luka Doncic
Chris Paul 2016-2017
Chris Paul 2015-2016
Stephen Curry 2018-2019
Chris Paul 2013-2014
Trae Young 2019-2020
LeBron James 2017-2018 7.05
Damian Lillard 2018-2019
Kyle Lowry 2016-2017
2019-20
• B-Ball Index is one service that uses player tracking and SportRadar data to analyze how good of a passer a player truly is. Their analysis incorporates Passing
Creation Volume (the volume of passes and creation opportunities a player generates), Creation Quality (the location of assists, as well as conversion rates on
potential assists for players relative to rates for those same players passed to from other teammates and league average on types of scoring looks), Passing
Versatility (the type and location of passes), Passing Efficiency (fewer turnovers and more efficient use of time when they have the ball in their hands), and
Scoring Gravity (better players attract defenders which opens up teammates).
• The final output of this detailed Playmaking evaluation is that Trae’s 2019-20 season was the 3rd best playmaking season since 2013-14, behind only James
Harden’s MVP season in 2016-17 and Lebron James in 2019-20. In fact, despite the media’s obsession with Luka’s passing ability, Trae has two seasons of
higher playmaking scores above Luka’s 2019-20 season (albeit slightly).
RANKING SHOOTER AVG SHOT DISTANCE 3PT SHOT QUALITY 3PT OPENNESS RATING 3PT SHOT MAKING 3PT SHOT CREATION PERIMETER SHOOTING
1 Duncan Robinson 76.3% 8.3% 1.7% 99.9% 7.7% 99.9%
2 Davis Bertans 89.9% 0.5% 0.7% 99.9% 64.8% 99.9%
3 James Harden 90.3% 0.0% 0.1% 99.2% 100.0% 99.8%
4 Damian Lillard 93.2% 0.4% 0.8% 99.7% 99.8% 99.7%
5 Buddy Hield 63.8% 17.9% 1.9% 99.1% 98.1% 99.6%
6 JJ Redick 44.8% 3.9% 6.0% 99.7% 73.0% 99.6%
7 Devonte' Graham 88.1% 1.7% 2.5% 98.0% 99.6% 99.2%
8 Tim Hardaway Jr. 73.9% 34.7% 4.7% 98.8% 89.8% 98.9%
9 Seth Curry 71.1% 28.9% 8.2% 99.2% 89.0% 98.9%
10 D'Angelo Russell 90.0% 1.5% 1.2% 97.3% 99.4% 98.7%
11 Paul George 74.3% 12.4% 2.1% 98.3% 96.0% 98.7%
12 Danilo Gallinari 84.3% 9.0% 5.9% 98.9% 80.9% 98.7%
13 Trae Young 93.8% 1.8% 5.1% 95.3% 99.9% 98.6%
14 Jayson Tatum 67.6% 2.4% 0.8% 98.2% 98.6% 98.6%
15 Zach LaVine 87.3% 2.1% 3.4% 97.6% 99.2% 98.5%
16 Kemba Walker 64.7% 17.6% 1.4% 95.6% 99.7% 98.3%
17 Bojan Bogdanovic 67.6% 50.1% 13.8% 98.4% 81.8% 98.1%
18 Doug McDermott 52.1% 61.6% 4.4% 98.8% 1.5% 98.1%
19 Evan Fournier 58.0% 17.9% 11.3% 98.0% 92.8% 97.9%
..
20 Karl-Anthony Towns 75.0% 5.7% 17.2% 98.3% 76.9% 97.9%
.
43 Luka Doncic 93.1% 0.3% 0.8% 44.0% 99.9% 94.3%
.
20 Markelle Fultz 89.9 96.9 95.9 97.1
..
65 Trae Young 98.4 98.6 12.6 89.2
0.631 0.624
0.613 0.607 0.605 0.605
0.593 0.584
0.554 0.548
0.536 0.532
0.520 0.515
0.501 0.490 0.485
0.479
0.460 0.458 0.454 0.450 0.448
0.441
0.411 0.401
0.383
Chris Paul
Devin Booker
CJ McCollum
Luka Doncic
DeMar DeRozan
Russell Westbrook
Damian Lillard
Kyle Lowry
Fred VanVleet
Ricky Rubio
Kawhi Leonard
LeBron James
Ben Simmons
Jamal Murray
Paul George
Bradley Beal
Donovan Mitchell
De'Aaron Fox
Jayson Tatum
Trae Young
Jimmy Butler
Ja Morant
Kemba Walker
James Harden
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Nikola Jokic
Malcolm Brogdon
Brandon Ingram
Sources:
NBA.com/stats
Second Spectrum
Synergy 12
1 Effectiveness Per “Touch”: Passing (1)
• Trae was 4th in the NBA in scoring at 29.6 PPG so his per touch “Total Offense” figures include this efficient high-level scoring. But if
we isolate just his assists and “secondary ‘hockey’ assists” we see a similar story – Trae is near the top of the NBA in assists generated
per touch, and again outpaced Luka.
0.050
Chris Paul
Luka Doncic
Fred VanVleet
Russell Westbrook
Damian Lillard
DeMar DeRozan
Jamal Murray
Ricky Rubio
Devin Booker
Bradley Beal
LeBron James
Kyle Lowry
Paul George
Ben Simmons
Kawhi Leonard
Jayson Tatum
Trae Young
De'Aaron Fox
Jimmy Butler
Kemba Walker
Donovan Mitchell
James Harden
Ja Morant
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Nikola Jokic
CJ McCollum
Malcolm Brogdon
Brandon Ingram
Sources:
NBA.com/stats
Second Spectrum
Synergy 13
1 Effectiveness Per “Touch”: Passing (2)
• Building on the prior slide, if you broaden the “assist” category to include passes that lead to a shot, foul, or turnover, you end up with the NBA’s
stat known as “Potential Assists”. Potential Assists is a more wholistic way of looking at how a player’s passes might lead to high-value offensive
possessions.
• On this metric Trae is still near the top of the league, and once again, ahead of Luka. This makes sense considering Trae’s teammates converted
FGAs at a league-worst rate in 2019-20 (which costs Trae assists in the box score) while Dallas’ shooters were well above average.
Potential Assists + Secondary ("Hockey") Assists Per Touch
Trae accumulated +16%
more potential
0.327 assists per touch
0.317 0.312
0.306
0.294
0.272 0.270 0.269 0.265
0.264 0.264 0.262
0.254 0.252 0.248
0.246 0.245
0.222 0.220
0.211
0.198 0.193
0.186 0.185 0.183 0.182 0.180
0.125
Chris Paul
Devin Booker
Luka Doncic
Damian Lillard
Ricky Rubio
Kyle Lowry
Bradley Beal
LeBron James
Russell Westbrook
Paul George
Trae Young
DeMar DeRozan
Ben Simmons
De'Aaron Fox
Fred VanVleet
Kawhi Leonard
Jamal Murray
Jayson Tatum
Kemba Walker
Donovan Mitchell
Ja Morant
Jimmy Butler
Giannis Antetokounmpo
CJ McCollum
Nikola Jokic
James Harden
Malcolm Brogdon
Brandon Ingram
Sources:
NBA.com/stats
Second Spectrum
Synergy 14
1 Effectiveness Per “Touch”: Passing (3)
• As a final point on the per touch metrics, it’s worth highlighting that basketball is a team sport and not all touches are created equal. Trae dribbling up
the court and taking a deep 35-foot 3-point shot before any other teammates touch the ball can potentially be viewed as negative for team chemistry
(although Trae is hardly an outlier when it comes to this play). Moving the ball and letting other players get touches, even if the ball ends up back in
Trae’s hands for a shot, could result in improved outcomes by Trae’s teammates due to a feeling of involvement in the offense. This is one area where
Luka gets rave reviews and Trae doesn’t.
• While Luka does pass the ball more often than Trae (~17% more passes per game), a big part of that is due to total touches. On a per touch basis Luka
only passes the ball 6% more often than Trae does. And although Luka passes the ball more than Trae, he still trails many other offense initiators in pass
rate. Jokic passed it 19% more than Luka did, and CP3 passed it 12% more. Based on this it seems hard to argue that Luka is a ball-movement wizard and
Trae is a ball-stopper – the truth is they’re much closer to each other than they are to the best in the NBA at moving the ball.
• But passing needs context – it depends on coaching scheme (e.g., Mark Jackson vs Steve Kerr in GS, or Dwayne Casey vs Nick Nurse in TOR), and it
depends on capabilities of teammates. It’s not surprising that Trae passed less given the quality of his teammates this season.
Passes Per Touch
Jokic passed Luka passed +6% more CP3 passed
+19% more often per touch +12% more
0.781 0.774 0.770
0.731 0.728 0.726 0.725 0.723 0.701
0.692 0.685 0.684 0.678
0.651 0.644 0.632 0.627 0.624 0.624
0.612 0.611 0.602 0.585 0.585
0.581 0.565
0.545 0.532
Chris Paul
Luka Doncic
Devin Booker
Fred VanVleet
Russell Westbrook
Jamal Murray
Damian Lillard
DeMar DeRozan
Ricky Rubio
Bradley Beal
Paul George
Ben Simmons
Kyle Lowry
LeBron James
Jayson Tatum
Kawhi Leonard
Jimmy Butler
Kemba Walker
De'Aaron Fox
Trae Young
Donovan Mitchell
Nikola Jokic
James Harden
Ja Morant
Giannis Antetokounmpo
CJ McCollum
Malcolm Brogdon
Brandon Ingram
Sources:
NBA.com/stats
Second Spectrum
Synergy 15
1 Trae’s 2019-20 Per 100 Possession Statistics are Historically Impressive: A
Note: True shooting percentage (TS%) is a measure of shooting efficiency that takes into account FGs, 3PM, and free throws
Sources: Basketball Reference
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1 Trae’s 2019-20 Per 100 Possession Statistics are Historically Impressive: B
Note: True shooting percentage (TS%) is a measure of shooting efficiency that takes into account FGs, 3PM, and free throws
Sources: Basketball Reference
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1 Trae’s 2019-20 Per 100 Possession Statistics are Historically Impressive: C
Note: True shooting percentage (TS%) is a measure of shooting efficiency that takes into account FGs, 3PM, and free throws
Sources: Basketball Reference
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1 Trae’s 2019-20 Per 100 Possession Statistics are Historically Impressive: D
Note: True shooting percentage (TS%) is a measure of shooting efficiency that takes into account FGs, 3PM, and free throws
Sources: Basketball Reference
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1 True Shooting Efficiency in a Relative Historical Context
• I tend to lean towards the view that scoring efficiency is more important as an absolute metric when viewed historically. Yes, the game has evolved, and players
have become more efficient over time due to an emphasis being put on more efficient and higher-value shot attempts (free throws, layups, three pointers); but
the simple fact is, a player who scores more efficiently is more valuable and will therefore generate more points for their team. For a non-basketball example
consider Tyson Gay’s 100-meter time of 9.69 seconds in 2009 vs Jesse Owens’ 10.3 seconds in 1936. Jesse Owens was the fastest person in his era, but that
would be irrelevant in a race today against Tyson Gay despite Tyson not even being the fastest person in the world currently.
• That said, it can still be helpful to look at a player’s relative true shooting percentage (rTS% or TS+) to understand how that player performed when compared
to his peers in the season in which they played. rTS% or TS+ tells you how many percentage points a player’s TS% was above the league average for the time
period in which they played (e.g., an rTS% of 2% means the player’s TS% was +2% above the league average).
• One pushback against Trae’s historically impressive season is that his rTS% was only +3%, meaning that while he was very efficient by historical standards
(particularly at high volume), he was only +3% more efficient when compared to the league average in 2019-20. It’s undeniable that there have been many
instances of a player achieving a higher rTS%, but there’s something to be said about Trae achieving a rTS% of +3% in a season in which he had possibly one
of the worst supporting cast of teammates ever. Further, Trae’s rTS% of +3% was higher than Luka’s +2% while being double-teamed at far higher rates.
• The below scatterplot of Points Per 100 Possessions vs rTS% shows every season since 1970 in which a player averaged at least 15 PPG and 48% TS% (>2,100
data points) - it is clear that both Trae and Luka are among the best in history when factoring in their combination of efficiency and volume scoring.
2.0%
0.0% Luka Doncic
-2.0% 15.0 20.0 25.0 30.0 35.0 40.02019-20 45.0 50.0
-4.0%
-6.0%
-8.0%
-10.0%
Points Per 100 Possessions
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2 Introduction
• In the introduction to the prior section I touched on the criticisms I received from some readers regarding my framing of Trae’s
offensive and defensive contributions (or lack thereof when it comes to defense). This was particularly true of my framing of Trae’s
defensive impact; since I used “worthless” defensive metrics like Defensive Rating (DRtg) and Defended Field Goal Percentage
(DFG%), my argument that Trae is not the worst defender in the NBA or the worst in NBA history was somehow considered biased
and/or inaccurate*.
• In this section I lay out these aforementioned advanced defensive impact metrics, as well as why I believe they are not the holy grail
of predicting defensive impact/ability.
• Further, I believe there are credible arguments as to why Trae’s defensive issues are overstated, and that there is a path to defensive
improvement despite the overwhelming narrative by the fans and media that a 22-year-old, 3rd year player can’t improve defensively.
*This claim is despite the fact that if you compare the DRtg and DFG% percentile rank of the players I singled out in the long-form report to their corresponding percentile rank in D-
RPM and D-PIPM, the results are very similar and result in similar conclusions.
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2 Advanced Defensive Impact Metrics Tell A Similar Story: Trae is Currently a Bottom Tier Defender
Sources:
PIPM: https://www.bball-index.com/player-impact-plus-minus/
PIPM (continued): https://www.bball-index.com/player-impact-plus-minus/#:~:text=Player%20Impact%20Plus%2DMinus%20(PIPM,the%20course%20of%20a%20season
RPM: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/10740818/introducing-real-plus-minus 23
RAPTOR: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-our-raptor-metric-works/
2 Advanced Defensive Impact Metrics: Trae vs. Luka
• The prior page is only a snapshot of the worst 25 players in the 2019-20 season based on D-PIPM, D-RPM, and D-RAPTOR so it doesn’t show how
Luka ranked. While Trae clearly ranks near the bottom of the league in defensive impact, Luka fared better. But better doesn’t mean good, and
lately it seems like any attempt at objectively pointing out a weakness or flaw in Luka’s game is met with intense opposition. However, that
opposition doesn’t change the fact that Luka is not an average or good defender yet either.
• Also, as much as these advanced metrics attempt to isolate individual performance, that’s nearly impossible to achieve with NBA defense for
many reasons that I’ll discuss later. As a result, Luka’s defensive abilities and impact metrics definitely benefitted from having an elite defensive
coach and multiple “plus defenders” in the primary rotation. On the contrary, Trae’s metrics are likely made worse by the fact that most of
Atlanta’s core rotation players were first- or second-year players with below league-average defensive impact.
• And to be clear, I am not arguing that Luka is as bad as Trae is on defense, far from it. Trae’s defensive issues stem from his lack of effort and
small frame while Luka’s issues are due to his slow lateral movement; but given the physical differences, there is an easier path to near league-
average defense for Luka than there is for Trae. Value NBA Rank
Luka Trae Luka Trae
D-PIPM -1.12 -3.69 328 / 397 397 / 397
D-RPM -0.90 -6.00 263 / 397 397 / 397
D-RAPTOR -1.18 -3.48 280 / 397 383 / 397
Simple Average -1.07 -4.39 290 / 397 392 / 397
Atlanta vs Dallas Rotation Comparison (D-RPM) 2.60
Dallas Avg
Damian Jones
John Collins
Kristaps Porzingis
Kevin Huerter
Deandre Hunter
Maxi Kleber
Seth Curry
Dorian Finney-Smith
Cam Reddish
Deandre Bembry
Atlanta Avg
Delon Wright
Tim Hardaway
Sources:
PIPM: https://www.bball-index.com/player-impact-plus-minus/
PIPM (continued): https://www.bball-index.com/player-impact-plus-minus/#:~:text=Player%20Impact%20Plus%2DMinus%20(PIPM,the%20course%20of%20a%20season
RPM: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/10740818/introducing-real-plus-minus 24
RAPTOR: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-our-raptor-metric-works/
2 Defensive Impact Metrics Are Not the Holy Grail Despite “Blog Boys” Thinking They Are (1)
• You don’t have to look very hard to find groups of people on the internet who believe that defensive impact metrics like D-PIPM, D-RPM, D-BPM, D-RAPTOR, etc.,
are gospel when evaluating a player’s individual defense (see: Reddit and Twitter). According to them, Trae ranks last in these +/- metrics so therefore he’s the
worst defender in the NBA and is not a player you can build a good team around. But it should be obvious to anyone who’s ever played basketball at any level, or
has even watched a professional basketball game, that these sorts of all encompassing/black-box regression-based statistics can’t accurately measure a player’s
defensive ability.
• For starters, isolating a single player’s defensive impact is inherently difficult within the context of NBA defense given how interconnected and communication-
based a defense is. A missed defensive assignment because of a communication breakdown or a defender hedging a screen for an extra split second thereby giving
the primary defender time to recover are nearly impossible to capture with measurable data.
• Second, coaching and defensive schemes are incredibly important. Is your scheme to crash the offensive boards thereby risking transition baskets, or is everyone
focused on getting back on defense? Are your perimeter defenders focused on funneling players into the paint where your rim protecting big-man is waiting, or are
you playing a zone and willing to give up perimeter shots? Are you willing to let the superstar player score 50 points so long as the role players “don’t beat you”, or
are you trying to neutralize the star player via double-teams? Is the coach effective at hiding weaker defenders, and are they using each player in a role that
maximizes their abilities? (e.g., some players are good team defenders but weak in man-to-man situations)
• Third, surrounding teammates can impact another player’s individual defense just by their presence. Offensive players would probably think twice about posting
up Trae on a switch or driving the lane if Rudy Gobert was waiting in the paint rather than Alex Len or Damian Jones; instead, they might settle for a lower
percentage contested three-point attempt, thereby inflating Trae’s defensive impact.
• But you don’t have to take my word for it – below is NBA analytics pioneer/enthusiast Daryl Morey admitting that there are no publicly available defensive
metrics that can accurately assess an individual player’s defensive impact. Similarly, ESPN’s Jackie MacMullan recently confirmed the same idea after having
spoken to many people around the league.
Sources:
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/8c1x8q/im_daryl_morey_general_manager_of_the_houston/
https://np.reddit.com/r/rockets/comments/895qdx/houston_rockets_are_the_1_seed_ama/?sort=top
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPsI8PzWK_Q 25
2 Defensive Impact Metrics Are Not the Holy Grail Despite “Blog Boys” Thinking They Are (2)
• An individual player scoring a basket, making a pass, setting a screen, or drawing a double-team is easily measurable and therefore the offensive
impact metrics are fairly accurate at assessing who the most valuable offensive players are. However, in my view, the same cannot be said for the
defensive impact metrics. As an example, below are some notable and clear inconsistencies in the data:
Average of D-PIPM and D-RPM
2013-14 2014-15 2015-16 2016-17 2017-18 2018-19 2019-20
Good Defenders
Eric Bledsoe 2.73 1.63 - -0.52 0.14 1.31 0.68
Jaylen Brown - - - -0.10 1.11 0.15 -0.13
Anthony Davis 0.93 3.39 1.37 3.39 3.03 2.71 1.44
Kris Dunn - - - 0.32 -0.11 -0.26 2.91
Ben Simmons - - - - 1.57 0.29 0.59
Klay Thompson 0.27 -0.13 -0.39 -0.57 -0.11 -1.59 -
Bad Defenders
Nikola Jokic - - 3.25 1.47 1.60 1.81 2.14
Kevin Love 0.90 0.97 1.53 1.51 0.70 - -0.45
Dirk Nowitzki 1.20 -1.01 0.40 0.78 0.45 -0.32 -
Hassan Whiteside - 1.81 2.82 2.07 2.82 3.07 2.00
• Eric Bledsoe, a back-to-back All Defensive team selection, was ranked 377th out of 520 players in D-RPM in 2019-20, and 276th out of 513
players in 2018-19. As for D-PIPM, he ranked 36th this season, behind teammates Wesley Matthews and Donte DiVincenzo.
• Jaylen Brown, Kris Dunn, and Ben Simmons, all considered to be near-elite defenders, have been ranked near league-average according
to an average of their D-PIPM and D-RPM metrics (although Dunn finally got the respect he deserves from the metrics in 2019-20).
• Klay Thompson, one of the most important defensive players on a 3-time championship winning team and one of the best 2-way players
in the NBA, has only had one season of positive plus-minus in the last 7 seasons.
• Meanwhile, defensively challenged big-men like Nikola Jokic and Hassan Whiteside rated near the top of the NBA in their defensive
contributions on a plus-minus basis, ahead of Anthony Davis (who by the way had his best defensive season ever yet had his 2nd lowest
plus-minus in 6 seasons). It would also be very surprising if Kevin Love or 37-40 year old Dirk Nowitzki were actually league-average
defenders like their advanced metrics suggest.
• Obviously, any regression-based statistic is going to have inconsistencies for X out of every 20 data points, but these are glaring enough
inconsistencies for me to be highly skeptical of the usefulness of these defensive metrics when applied to individual players over a single season.
Sources:
PIPM: https://www.bball-index.com/player-impact-plus-minus/
RPM (1): https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/10740818/introducing-real-plus-minus
RPM (2): http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm 26
Daryl Morey, Mike Zarren, and Zach Lowe at the MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference in 2018 discussing RPM: https://youtu.be/jL2ZSMQOOS4?t=1168
So, How Does This Relate to Trae Young?
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2 Defensive Impact vs Defensive Ability
• Despite the issues with defensive statistics that I highlighted previously, there’s no denying that Trae Young is currently a bottom tier defender in
the NBA. But one important distinction that needs to be highlighted is the difference between defensive impact and defensive ability. Trae might
rank near the bottom of the NBA in defensive impact based on a collection of metrics, but that doesn’t mean he’s the worst defender in the NBA
based on ability (see also: Bradley Beal). This distinction is important because one of the primary drivers of Trae’s significantly negative defensive
impact ratings is his complete lack of defensive effort. And effort can be easily improved.
“As long as you play with effort on defense, you can be a good defender. There's no secret. If you
play hard and give effort you can do some pretty good things on the defensive end“ – Shane Battier
• In fact, effort is so important that if I had to breakdown the main components of playing defense it would probably look something like this:
DEFENSE = (50% EFFORT) + (40% CAPABILITY) + (10% COACHING/SCHEME)
EFFORT = (CARING) + (HUSTLING) + (DISCIPLINE)
CAPABILITY = (PHYSICAL ATTRIBUTES) + (ATHLETICISM) + (BASKETBALL IQ)
• Having spent considerable time watching Atlanta Hawks games in 2019-20 it was clear that Trae had little interest in putting in the effort
required to play decent defense – he rarely got into a defensive stance, he didn’t fight hard to get over or around screens, his close-outs on
shooters was lacking hustle, and he wasn’t very active with his hands in terms of disrupting passing lanes.
• But it’s difficult to know if Trae truly didn’t care about playing defense or if it was an intentional strategy to conserve energy influenced by his
enormous offensive burden – if Trae wasn’t superhuman on offense, the Hawks likely had no chance of winning (we’ve seen other offensive star
players employ a similar strategy recently: e.g., Lebron in Cleveland, James Harden in Houston, and Bradley Beal in Washington this season).
• Further, it’s not as if the Hawks were an amazing team that only lost because Trae got exploited on defense – but rather, Trae was just one of
many poor defenders in the rotation. So, given he had no help on offense, and no teammates picking up the slack defensively (Atlanta’s rim
protectors were Alex Len and Damian Jones), it’s hard to fully blame Trae for his lack of effort on defense. In essence, what’s the point of trying?
• The good news for Trae and Atlanta is that those issues are fixable if Trae decides to start caring about defense. The bad news is that it’s not a
guarantee that he will flip the switch and start caring. Having a coach or collection of veteran teammates who hold him accountable, or a winning
culture could go a long way towards changing that. (Here’s an interesting older video breaking down some clips of Trae’s defense)
• Effort aside, Trae clearly lacks many of the physical attributes that are needed to be a good defender, primarily height, length, strength, and
athleticism. But lacking those features doesn’t mean he can’t become at least a passable defender; plus, Trae isn’t as small as many make it seem
– he’s not Isaiah Thomas.
Source:
Shane Battier Quote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7op--wHVEIk 28
2 Trae Young Comparisons: Pre-Draft Measurements (1)
• It’s well documented that Trae’s physical measurements limit his defensive abilities, but it remains to be seen if these limitations will fully
prohibit him from becoming adequate on defense. Looking through recent draft history for players with comparable measurements
confirms that there are plenty of examples of players who have defied their physical limitations to become at least passable on defense.
• Of course, there are some obvious differences between Trae and some players in the below list, specifically athleticism, strength, and
wingspan. But while the spotlight on Trae’s deficiencies shines bright, people often ignore his quickness and standing reach, both of which
are at least in-line with the average of the players below.
• And while the Steph Curry comparisons have been exhausted at this point, Trae does measure up similarly. Their drafted weights were
almost identical despite a 1.5-year age difference, and while Curry holds a 1.5-inch height advantage, their wingspans are only separated
by half an inch.
• The point of the Curry comparison is only to illustrate what’s possible for Trae given his physical limitations. Despite similar initial concerns
regarding his size, strength and speed, Steph is now an average defender that makes up for his deficiencies with quick hands and a high
basketball IQ. Trae is quicker than Steph ever was and has a similarly elite offensive IQ so it seems reasonable to think Trae could improve
to become passable on defense assuming the effort is drastically improved.
Player Weight (lbs) Height (no shoes) Wingspan Standing Reach 2019-20 DPIPM 3-Year Avg DPIPM 2019-20 DRPM 3-Year Avg DRPM
Kyrie Irving 191 6' 1" 3/4 6' 4" 8' 3" -0.20 -1.09 0.46 -1.06
Dennis Schroder 165 6' 1" 6' 7" 3/4 8' 2" 1.04 -0.70 0.70 -1.27
Jamal Murray 207 6' 3" 6' 6" 1/2 8' 1" 0.01 -0.63 1.50 -0.67
Stephen Curry 181 6' 2" 6' 3" 1/2 8' 1" 0.64 0.16 0.85 0.35
Darren Collison 166 6' 0" 1/4 6' 3" 8' 0" 1/2 -0.46 -0.71 -0.42 -0.54
Monte Morris 175 6' 1" 1/4 6' 4" 8' 0" 1/2 -0.71 -0.52 0.40 0.23
Damian Lillard 189 6' 1" 3/4 6' 7" 3/4 8' 0" -1.93 -0.44 -2.10 -1.02
Trae Young 178 6' 0" 1/2 6' 3" 7' 11" 1/2 -3.69 -3.55 -6.00 -5.39
Norris Cole 174 6' 0" 1/4 6' 2" 1/4 7' 11" 1/2 - - - -
Mike Conley 175 5' 11" 3/4 6' 5" 3/4 7' 10" 1/2 -0.27 0.01 0.20 -0.13
DJ Augustin 172 5' 10" 6' 3" 1/2 7' 10" 1/2 -0.07 -0.31 2.20 0.22
Chris Paul 178 5' 11" 3/4 6' 4" 1/2 7' 9" 0.14 0.93 2.00 1.97
Kyle Lowry 185 6' 0" 6' 2" 7' 9" 0.82 0.86 1.50 1.45
Kemba Walker 184 5' 11" 1/2 6' 3" 1/2 7' 7" 1/2 -1.35 -0.77 -1.40 -1.13
Isaiah Thomas 186 5' 8" 3/4 6' 1" 3/4 7' 7" 1/2 -2.45 -2.45 -4.20 -4.20
Tony Parker 177 6' 2" 6' 4" - - - - -
Fred VanVleet 195 5' 11" 6' 2" - 0.60 0.50 0.90 0.70
Sources:
NBADraft.net
Draft Express
https://www.bball-index.com/2019-20-impact-metrics/ 29
2 Trae Young Comparisons: Pre-Draft Measurements (2)
• Continuing with the theme from the prior page – while Trae’s height and wingspan are near the lower end of the comparable players, his
standing reach is in-line with the average. In fact, Trae’s standing reach is 1-inch higher than Mike Conley and 2.5-inches higher than Chris Paul,
two players that are considered above average to elite guard defenders.
• This is a noteworthy point because while a longer wingspan is helpful for keeping defenders in front of you and disrupting passing lanes, a higher
standing reach is more important than either wingspan or height when it comes to contesting shots or securing rebounds.
• And as a last point – Trae’s defensive potential is often compared to Isaiah Thomas or Lou Williams, two notoriously poor defenders. When it
comes to the Thomas comparison it’s worth highlighting that Trae is nearly 4-inches taller with a similar 4-inch higher standing reach. In fact,
Trae’s height and standing reach are closer to the players at the higher end of the comp list than to they are to Thomas. Sometimes I think the
people who criticize Trae’s size the most are those who haven’t actually watched him play in the NBA – he’s not Muggsy Bogues.
99.00
98.00 97.75
97.00 97.00
96.50 96.50
96.00
95.50 95.50
94.50 94.50
93.00 93.00
91.50 91.50
No Data
Kyrie Dennis Jamal Stephen Darren Monte Damian Trae Norris Mike DJ Chris Kyle Kemba Isaiah Tony Fred Avg Since
Irving Schroder Murray Curry Collison Morris Lillard Young Cole Conley Augustin Paul Lowry Walker Thomas Parker VanVleet 2000
Sources:
NBADraft.net
Draft Express
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2 Individual Player Examples of Defensive Impact Improvement: D-RPM
• While I do question the accuracy and validity of the advanced defensive impact metrics, analyzing the career trajectories of a couple of recent
defensively challenged players shows some interesting trends that are somewhat encouraging for Trae Young’s defensive potential going
forward. Specifically, players like DJ Augustin, Kyrie Irving, Jamal Murray, Dennis Schroder, and JJ Redick were all criticized for their defensive
abilities early in their careers yet each of these players are now at least near league-average defensively according to D-RPM.
• But there seems to be a “chicken and egg” paradox as it relates to these defensive impact improvements – each player’s career high in D-RPM
appears to coincide with them either being on an improved defensive team or in a winning situation:
• Augustin’s Orlando Magic made the playoffs as the 8th seed and were top 10 in DRtg this season.
• Kyrie’s career high occurred in 2018-19 while on the Boston Celtics (7th in DRtg) while surrounded by other good defensive players like
Marcus Smart, Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum, and Al Horford.
• Dennis Schroder played for the 5th seed OKC Thunder this season (7th in DRtg) next to Chris Paul and Shai Gilgeous Alexander, and in front
of Steven Adams – all good defenders.
• JJ Redick’s best rating came with the LA Clippers as the primary guard next to Chris Paul and in front of Deandre Jordan.
• So then the question becomes – did these players significantly improve their defense over time, or did they benefit individually/statistically from
being around other good defensive teammates, in good defensive schemes, and in winning situations? The truth is probably a bit of both.
Career Improvement in D-RPM
5.84
4.51
3.50 3.49 3.45 3.44 3.40 3.37 3.14 2.84 2.79
2.20 2.30
1.50 1.10
0.90 0.70 0.80
0.46 0.26
-0.20 -0.48
-1.95 -1.69
-2.21 -2.54 -2.34
-3.03 -2.70 -3.11
-3.64 -3.70 -3.32
-0.30 -0.14
-0.42
-1.19 -1.30
-1.67
-1.98 -1.98 -2.01
-2.35 -2.26 -2.24
-2.81
Sources:
https://hoopshype.com/2018/01/18/atlanta-hawks-dennis-schroder-analysis-offense-defense/
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2786642-dennis-schroder-trade-rumors-3-point-shooting-atrocious-defense-hurt-value
https://atlallday.com/2018/05/16/evaluating-dennis-schroders-trade-value-around-nba/ 33
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/dennis-schroder-boosting-thunder-with-career-year-making-strong-case-for-sixth-man-award/
2 A Case Study of A Different Atlanta Hawks Point Guard: Dennis Schroder (2)
• From the 2016-17 season to the 2019-20 season, Dennis Schroder improved his defensive impact metrics from a near league-worst
to an above average level, and his reputation seemingly changed overnight.
0.70 1.04
-1.98
-2.70
2016-18 2019-20 Improvement
• His contributions to the OKC Thunder in 2019-20 were enormously helpful in them reaching the playoffs as the 5th seed after trading
away Russell Westbrook and Paul George in the off-season; and his improvements on offense and defense resulted in him finishing
2nd in 6th man of the year voting (he received 37% of the 1st place votes). Ultimately, he was acquired via trade by the defending
champion LA Lakers to be a key part of their rotation just 2 years after he was considered “untradable” because of “atrocious
defense”.
• Analyzing why this career development occurred is helpful within the context of Trae Young’s career given the parallels regarding
their defensive struggles and physical limitations. Here are a few important points that might explain the drastic improvement:
• Schroder was still a young developing player – he was only 26 years old this past season and was 24 when he was traded to
OKC. While it’s common for fans and the media to label players quickly, often times young players (particularly point guards)
take longer to develop.
• In his 2 seasons as a starter in Atlanta, the team won just 41% of their games, including just 24 games in 2017-18. The Hawks
were clearly going through a transitional period having recently lost or traded four All-Stars: Al Horford, Paul Millsap, Kyle
Korver, and Jeff Teague, and weren’t exactly focused on creating a winning environment. Again, what’s the point of trying?
• In OKC Dennis was paired up in the backcourt with Chris Paul, an elite defensive PG and a notorious competitor. Other “plus
defenders” like Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Steven Adams, Lu Dort, and Nerlens Noel rounded out the primary rotations that
Schroder was apart of. Not only was he surrounded with defensive-minded players, but he was also in a situation focused on
winning (as mentioned, OKC was the 5th seed in the Western Conference and is one of the winningest franchises since 2010).
Sources: B-Ball Index (https://www.bball-index.com/) 34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL2ZSMQOOS4
3 CLOSING THOUGHTS
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3 Closing Thoughts
• Trae Young’s offensive numbers and on-court impact are hard to dispute both in absolute, and relative to Luka Doncic, so I won’t belabor the
point. Instead, I’ll just repeat what I’ve proclaimed multiple times already: Trae Young is just as impactful on offense as Luka Doncic.
• As for Trae’s defense, former NBA player Jalen Rose once said this regarding statistics, “all numbers can be manipulated…it’s like a nickname,
once somebody calls you something then you start telling them different reasons why you have that nickname”. A similar thing often happens
with NBA player stereotypes – once a player gets called a “chucker”, a “bad defender”, or a “locker-room cancer” it becomes the prevailing view
regardless of how accurate it is. I think this has happened with Trae Young and his defensive ability.
• Yes, Trae is currently a bottom tier defender, but there are clear ways for him to improve on that end of the court if he wants to…starting with
effort and by cutting down on plays like this. And while Trae is on the smaller side in terms of his physical attributes, he’s not too dissimilar from
other point guards who have become competent defenders in the NBA. These views run contrary to the popular narrative that his physical
limitations will always render him an awful defender and incapable of being the best player on a championship-level team. I think this is a hastily
applied narrative for a 21-year-old player who is still maturing both mentally and physically, who is playing the toughest defensive position in the
NBA, and who is already one of the most impactful offensive weapons in the NBA.
P.S. Please enjoy this video of Trae pouring in 50-points in a win against the
Eastern Conference Champion Miami Heat in February
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ql0qLKXaM4
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APPENDIX
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1 B-Ball Index Rankings: Playmaking Talent (Definitions)
PASSING CREATION VOLUME
Passing Creation Volume analyzes a player’s volume of playmaking contributions to their teammates through their passing. This metric looks at passes a
player makes per 75 possessions on the court offensively that lead to a shot from a teammate.
PASSING EFFICIENCY
Passing Efficiency analyzes players’ playmaking ability with an eye toward efficient use of possessions (not turning it over) and time (with the ball in their
hands), relative to the value they’re adding through their passes. Players with more Bad Pass Turnovers and players holding onto the ball longer tend to
have higher value added from their passes to shots, so this metric adjusts for those to identify the players truly taking care of the ball well (and using time
efficiently) to add value.
PASSING VERSATILITY
Passing Versatility analyzes a player’s playmaking ability by quantifying how full the passing repertoire is for a player, through looking at Synergy passing
data from scoring play types as well as SportRadar data on assist locations. This allows us to gauge who is has the most range in their pass types and is a
more well-rounded passer. A player may have excellent performance within their passing style but not have the range as a playmaker to make other kinds
of passes (kick outs on drives, etc.). This metric identifies that spread of playmaking versatility and rewards players who are more versatile.
SCORING GRAVITY
Scoring Gravity is a component of analyzing playmaking ability calculated using the same Gravity data referenced in the Perimeter Shooting section, just
averaged by Rim, Midrange, and 3PT ranges. In helping to quantify a more context-neutral playmaking talent metric, recognizing players who bring their
offense with them and naturally open up scoring opportunities for teammates rather than requiring Xs and Os to facilitate that process is important.
PLAYMAKING TALENT
Playmaking Talent grade analyzes a player’s playmaking for teammates through their ratings in Passing Creation Volume, Passing Creation Quality, Passing
Versatility, Passing Efficiency, and Scoring Gravity (which has a small weight). As designed, the metric is about half measuring capability and volume of
playmaking and half measuring effectiveness playmaking for others. This metric is designed to be as context-neutral as possible, enabling values more
accurately capturing true playmaking talent and resulting in stability from year to year, even with players changing teams.
OPENNESS RATING
Openness Ratings show a z-score value estimating the degree of openness a player has on average for their 3-point attempts. Input data from
NBA.com/stats is used, along with some internal calculations (to try to increase accuracy), to derive these values.
For example, Will Barton and TJ Warren have the same exact 3PT% but very different Perimeter Shooting grades (A- for Barton, D+ for Warren). Barton is
achieving his 3PT% on a higher degree of difficulty (looking at his Shot Quality rating), thus has a higher Shot Making rating. He’s also creating 3-point looks
at a far better rate than Warren (A vs F ratings in 3PT Shot Creation). Those two factors combined result in Barton having an A- while Warren has a D+, and
would tell us that Barton is the more talented 3-point shooter (that should perform more highly in a neutral environment).
Note: this metric doesn’t care about assisted shots at the rim. A player driving and getting to the rim, or posting up and creating their own shots at the rim,
will be rewarded more than a player finishing dump offs.
FINISHING AT RIM
Finishing at Rim rating seeks to capture how well a player scores at the rim on the attempts they have once there, and doing so while capturing and
adjusting for variables that may impact performance finishing at the rim (such as spacing, if they were creating their own shot or not, location of shots).
The way the math is calculated, players creating their own offense rather than finishing dump offs will be rewarded more in this metric, which results in
fewer big men dominating the top of this list.
“A rapidly improving defender who has the quickness to stay in front of almost any
guard in the league. Uses his length effectively, gets in a good stance and move his feet
well when defending the ball. Puts solid pressure on his man and plays with a high level
of intensity when he wants to. Good man to man defender when dialed in, but can still
improve on his team defense. Can’t always contest the shots of taller players due to his
lack of height. Narrow frame means he'll get caught behind screens on occasion…Will
only get better on this end of the floor as he gets stronger and more experienced”
• The above quote is clearly incorrect with more than a decade of hindsight, but Lou’s issues on defense have always been more a
result of his lack of effort and intensity on that end of the floor rather than his physical limitations.
Sources:
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Louis-Williams-231/
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2 List of Recent NBA Champions: Small Point Guards Are Common
Year Team Point Guard Weight Height Wingspan Standing Reach
2020 Los Angeles Lakers Lebron James 250 6' 8" 1/2 7' 0" 8' 10"
2019 Toronto Raptors Kyle Lowry 196 6' 0" 6' 2" 7' 9"
2018 Golden State Warriors Stephen Curry 185 6' 2" 6' 3" 1/2 8' 1"
2017 Golden State Warriors Stephen Curry 185 6' 2" 6' 3" 1/2 8' 1"
2016 Cleveland Cavaliers Kyrie Irving 193 6' 1" 3/4 6' 4" 8' 3"
2015 Golden State Warriors Stephen Curry 185 6' 2" 6' 3" 1/2 8' 1"
2014 San Antonio Spurs Tony Parker 185 6' 2" 6' 4" -
2013 Miami Heat Mario Chalmers 190 6' 1" - -
2012 Miami Heat Mario Chalmers 190 6' 1" - -
2011 Dallas Mavericks Jason Kidd 209 6' 4" - - <<5' 10" JJ Barea played 20 MPG
2010 Los Angeles Lakers Derek Fisher 200 6' 1" - -
2009 Los Angeles Lakers Derek Fisher 200 6' 1" - -
Trae Young ------------------------------------------------------> 178 6' 0" 1/2 6' 3" 7' 11" 1/2
Sources:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/
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