W-2, W-4, Refunds, Oh My!
W-2, W-4, Refunds, Oh My!
W-2, W-4, Refunds, Oh My!
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Answer This:
1. In reviewing the “fine print” of Form W-4 and the definition for Exempt, what three questions could Ren have
asked his father to increase his understanding of his tax situation?
1) Does the money I make per check influence the zero i put for row 5 and 6?
2) How would I know if the IRS wouldn’t come after me for exempting my taxes?
3) Is there a threshold on the annual salary that I make?
Ren will receive more in net pay in ach paycheck because Ren exempted taxes.
Later that day Susan asked Ren about the tax paperwork they both completed. After Ren explained what he did, Susan
was totally confused. Here’s the conversation that followed:
Ren: My dad said that because this is only a part-time job I won’t earn enough money this year to pay taxes.
Besides, he also said that since we are currently students, we don’t have to pay any taxes anyway. That’s why I
wrote EXEMPT on the W-4.
Susan: Oh really, my mom is always complaining that she’s paid Social Security tax since she started working at
16 and that she might never see a dime of it. Do you know what the salary cut-off is so you don’t have to pay
taxes? How much do we need to earn before we need to start paying taxes?
Ren: I think it’s not until we’re full-time and earning about $25,000 that it matters.
Not happy with her ignorance on these issues, Susan did a little digging and found this reference document from NGPF.
She started to make a list of items she would need to discuss with Ren the next day.
Answer This:
3. After reading the reference document, what are three facts that Susan needs to tell Ren to clear up his
misconceptions about taxes?
- They don’t have to pay anything until they reach an earning of 12,000
- Taxes don’t depend on age
- It doesn’t matter if you have a part-time or full-time job if you have to pay taxes.
For you fill out shows how much you have earned and paid in taxes.
5. What is the income number that Susan will likely list on her tax return?
7,000
6. Which of the taxes listed on her Form W-2 do you think Susan might be able to “get back?”
Susan can get a certain percentage of state and federal income taxes back and after a certain age you can get
some percent of money back from SS.
Susan wonders what she should do with this W-2. She was a little upset at the large amount that was taken out in taxes,
especially after Ren had bragged all year about how he avoided paying federal income taxes. Susan recalls reading
She excitedly calls Ren at night to tell him that they should file a tax return immediately to see if they might receive a
refund. Ren’s response is underwhelming, “How many times do I have to remind you? I didn’t pay any taxes all year
since I was EXEMPT so you’re on your own with this one.” Susan holds her tongue and figures her Mom would give her a
warmer reception. Here’s what happens next:
Susan is a bit confused but remembers that she saw something about this in the NGPF reference document she read
earlier. She pulls out the reference document again and starts reading.
Answer This:
7. What should Susan’s three main talking points be to convince her Mom that she should file her own tax
return?
- Saving money
- Research more on tax returns
- Gain more knowledge about dependents
Answer This:
8. Does Susan qualify to receive free tax filing software? If so, how?
9. Create a detailed step-by-step checklist for Susan so she can file her tax return for FREE:
Susan is making progress and now starts to wonder about the size of her refund. She comes across this federal tax
brackets table for the 2020 tax filing year and does some quick calculations:
Answer This:
10. What would you estimate Susan’s federal tax to be based on her income of $7,000 and the tax rate above?
11. In reviewing her W-2, did Susan pay more or less in federal taxes than your estimate in question #10?
Susan paid $400 which means she paid less in taxes and owes $300 more.
WHAT?!?!?! Susan is expecting a refund, but this calculation makes it seem that she actually OWES more money. How
can this be true??? Susan takes a few deep breaths and then remembers that the NGPF reference document had stated
the following:
“If you can be claimed as a dependent by another taxpayer, your standard deduction for 2020 is
limited to the greater of: (1) $1,100, or (2) your earned income plus $350 (but the total can't be
Answer This:
12. Using her wages from the W-2 and the information included in the reference document, how much is Susan’s
standard deduction?
- $903.9
13. Because her standard deduction is greater than the amount she made, it turns out that Susan never owed
taxes. How large of a refund should she expect from the Federal government if she follows through on filing
her 1040 form?
A bunch.
14. If Ren worked the same shifts as Susan and had the same income of $7,000 last year, will he also need to file a
tax return? Support your response.
No, Ren doesn’t have to file tax return because she exempted her taxes which means she would get any money back
even if she filed.
15. Who do you believe made a better decision when they completed Form W-4, Ren or Susan? Support your
response.
Personally I think ren did a better job even though he didn’t have all the facts nut because ren doesn’t have to do
extra work to file for the tax return like susan does.