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TABLE OF CONTENTS
Episode 1:
Can Natural Medicine Really Reverse Disease?.................................................................................................... 1
Episode 2:
Stress & Anxiety, The Cortisol Connection, Adrenals, Fatigue, and Blood Sugar............................................17
Episode 3:
Mental Clarity & Brain Health, Alzheimer’s, Dementia, and Keeping a Young Mind......................................36
Episode 4:
Hormones & Fertility, Thyroid............................................................................................................................... 64
Episode 5:
Detoxing: The Elimination Pathways — The Gut: Leaky Gut, Parasites, and Microbiome.............................92
Episode 6:
Detoxing: The Elimination Pathways — Liver, Kidneys, and Lymphatic System.......................................... 127
Episode 7:
Chronic Serious Illness: Autoimmunity, Heart Disease, Cancer, and Stroke................................................ 159
Episode 8:
Weight Loss, Diabetes, Blood Sugar, and Exercise.......................................................................................... 191
Episode 9:
Triggers for Disease: What’s Really Making You Sick?..................................................................................... 210
Bonus Episode 10:

Big Pharma & Government Corruption, Supplements vs. Pharmaceuticals................................................ 230
Find Out More About Natural Medicine Secrets....................................................................... 244
About Jonathan Otto................................................................................................................................. 246
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EPISODE 1
CAN NATURAL MEDICINES REALLY REVERSE DISEASE?
HOST — JONATHAN OTTO
Jonathan Otto: Welcome to our Natural Medicine Secrets docuseries. In this groundbreaking new docuseries you
will get the chance to learn about some amazing natural healing protocols. You will learn herbs and foods, as well as
other natural methods that will revolutionize the way you experience life.
In this episode, we will explore the incredible transformation stories of patients who have been able to overcome
cancer and others who have eliminated chronic pain — all using natural methods and remedies that you may have
never considered. You will learn more about disease reversal and other essential things that you can do to facilitate the
best health for your body. Too often, we feel trapped by our symptoms, circumstances, lack of money, or dependency
upon prescription medications.
There is often backlash or negative press in our society when it comes to natural healing. Why is this? Why do we
hear of the “dangers” of natural medicines when the harsh side effects of prescription medications are downplayed?
Unfortunately, natural medicines lack the financial incentive to the medical and pharmaceutical establishment that
prescription medications hold. So, on top of just not promoting these concepts, products, and food, the media and
the medical industry often misrepresent them as being harmful and dangerous.
Yet, these natural plant-based healing methods work synergistically with the body to create a wonderful side-effect-free
result. There are rarely any side effects reported when it comes to natural healing. And there are an incredible amount
of testimonies out there from people who have had first-hand experience in healing their bodies from various diseases
using these methods. So, our goal is to bring you these stories and this information that has often been hidden and
tossed to the side so that you have access to the truth about these natural medicines.
HUGH HENDERSON, CANCER SURVIVOR: PERSONAL TESTIMONY
Hugh Henderson: Well I had 16 tumors in the liver, that’s never good, one of which was large. I had another tumor,
which had crushed, already, the left kidney and they thought the left kidney had died. That’s why they expected I had
two months left. You know the really interesting thing was, I’ve never seen people look at people as if they were dead
and some people, the ones who were knowledgeable, were looking at me as though I was dead. They had this sub-
liminal shock that, “Here’s Hugh, who I’ve known for 30 years and he’s about to die.” It was slightly off putting to be
looked at as though you’re dead.
CANCER — BENTONITE CLAY — PARASITES
Liana Werner-Gray: Sure, so I grew up in Alice Springs, which is right in the middle of Australia. So, we had a very
indigenous, rich upbringing. That impacted me from a very young age. I remember I was five years old, and they
would take us out on school excursions and teach us how to survive from nature. That’s when a little light bulb went
off in my brain that said, “Okay, so the healthiest way for us to live is to be able to go out to our own backyard and
pick foods like fruits and vegetables, seeds and nuts straight from the earth and eat them. I remember thinking that.
Then, all throughout my childhood, my parents raised us very natural, quite healthy. Then, as soon as I was going to
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university, I moved to the city, to Brisbane City. That’s when I started to indulge in a very fast food, processed food
lifestyle. Whenever I had a craving for anything that I wanted, I would just go out and eat it.
So, if I had a craving for chocolate, I was like, “Okay, I’m going to go get chocolate or gummy bears, McDonald’s, pizza,
KFC, Doritos, any kind of junk food.” You name it, I would eat it. I lived this way for five years. So, I ate junk food for
breakfast, lunch, and dinner for five years. That’s when I had a huge wake-up call. One day, something just popped in
my neck, and I went to the hospital. I had a three point seven centimeter tumor the size of a golf ball in my lymphatic
system. I was at the end of 21 years old. I was like, “Damn, I’m so young. This is such a bad start to life.”
SUPER FOOD: INTRO TO HEMP
Julie Wilson: I met a friend of mine who, or a friend of my husband’s actually, who had suffered a stroke at only 39
years old, and what he did to regenerate his body after that using hemp extract alone blew my mind. That’s what
made me, I said I have to get involved in this. What can I do to get involved in this because if it did this with him, what
else can it do?
Jonathan Otto: What happened to him?
Julie Wilson: He suffered a massive stroke. Like I said, he was only 39, and on top of the world. Super successful guy,
family, had two public companies, and was training with the Navy Seals just doing a drill. He was getting in the best
shape of his life before he turned 40. He was doing a drill just an accidental ... He got choked out. His artery was ... I don’t
know the entire details of the story, but he suffered a massive stroke a month later from that choke out. Of course, he
went through the whole, he was on drugs, and pharmaceutical drugs, and was depressed, and in pain. They told him
he’d never walk again. They told him that he wouldn’t be able to play with his children anymore, basically. That’s how
he viewed that diagnosis of never being able to walk again and being in a wheelchair and losing his independence at
such a young age. He discovered the healing power within the hemp plant, and slowly was able to get off all his meds.
I’m happy to say he’s walking again.
What did it for me was after hearing his story I’m at dinner with my husband and he comes walking in to meet us for
dinner, and walking in. I say walking in because he may as well of had a cape on. He was just walking with his shoul-
ders back, his head held high. A tiny bit of a limp, but that was it. Just having his memory came back and a lot of things
changed within him energy wise. I was ignited with passion, of course, my history of herbs and healing myself.
Jonathan Otto: Cancer, stroke, heart disease, diabetes, autoimmune diseases… The list goes on and on. Chronic and
life-threatening illnesses are a reality for so many people in America. It used to be that these were the conditions that
people didn’t usually need to worry about until they were older. However, doctors are encountering more and more
patients who are contracting these life-altering diseases at younger and younger ages on a regular basis. Our bodies
are constantly being bombarded with a myriad of pollutants, toxins, radiation and pathogens. As our bodies start
to betray us, we have to ask the question, what can we do to stop it and reverse the illnesses that may have already
developed. Why have we been told that natural medicines are an option, that we should avoid them?
UNNATURAL MEDICINE
Sayer Ji: Okay. All right. All right, so. All right, so the topic of natural medicine conjures up for me this contradiction
because it’s redundant, right? For me, medicine or that which we heal has to be natural. So, it’s sort of like an unnat-
ural medicine, meaning a pharmaceutical that’s derived from a synthetic chemical, which most of them are, would be
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oxymoronic, right? Like, a pharmaceutical medicine. So, it’s like alternative medicine, right? It’s as if natural herbs and
spices and foods being used for healing just popped up in the past like 50 years or something, and that traditional
medicine they associate with surgery and, you know, synthetic patented chemicals, which is what pharmaceutical
medicines ultimately are. So everything’s backwards in a way. Our survivability as a species through eons, right, de-
pendent upon food as medicine. And, you know, our ancestors, it could be grandmother, like, putting just the right
pinch of a spice into a dish, which provided the right, if you will, epigenetic information that helped our genes express
themselves with like optimal wellness.
And so that’s where I look at natural medicine. It’s like basically sort of like this redundant term that exists within, like,
a semantical space that’s dominated by pharma already. They’ve already won the war of brainwashing the world.
Because if you think about it, the basic premise of course is that patented chemicals are somehow superior and even
safer than natural medicines, right? You have people that freak out at the prospect of taking a probiotic or using an
essential oil for medicinal purpose. You know, they’re trying to get their doctor to say, is this safe? Or they’re looking
online, and they don’t realize that aspirin, for example, was just ruled to be unsafe to take for the primary prevention
of heart disease and stroke, which for decades doctors were telling people to take this synthetic form of a compound,
the salicylate, as a way to prevent the number one cause of death when it was causing things like, you know, cerebral
hemorrhage and it was contributing to compromising, you know, the arteries.
So for me it helps to have compassion though, because if you look at the structure of corporations, yes, the primary
pharmaceutical manufacturers in the world are technically felons and have paid out tens of billions of dollars, yet no
one’s in jail because corporations have personhood, but they don’t have the same responsibilities and liabilities that
humans do, because you can’t just murder someone by poisoning them and not go to jail. But that’s what these large
pharmaceutical companies have been doing.
And yet within their bylaws and the structure of these corporations, they have a fiduciary responsibility to make a profit
for their shareholders. It would be a violation of those bylaws to not do so. So, the way that they’re structured sort
of is conducive towards behavior that ultimately, as far as the end users are involved of these medications, causing
hundreds of thousands to die from correctly prescribed drugs annually. We all know that.
So why is it then that natural medicines aren’t offered as an alternative? Right. Everyone who is just new to this space
thinks, well, that’s crazy, isn’t it? I mean, if they’re so safe and effective, well, why doesn’t the FDA approve them? Because
they don’t fully comprehend the drug approval process, which requires probably an average about $5 billion of capital
be invested on the front end to basically look at producing a novel new chemical that has never existed before. So,
they can get a patent on that and get market exclusivity. And so, what they do is they actually usually go through the
catalog of natural compounds and they find something that they think that they can pull from nature and then alter
slightly so that they can have this special new patented chemical. When they do that, it’s like a kiss of death because
the body of course is comprised of natural compounds and to add a synthetic chemical, what you could call xenobiotic,
xenobiotic is basically poisoning the body.
And that’s the basis for why pharmaceutical medicines are so, you know, harmful and why they offer this unique patent
opportunity, but it has nothing to do with safety and efficacy. So that’s the context for why natural medicine today is
still, you know, the beaten down, red headed stepchild, you know, of conventional approaches. It’s considered to be
ineffective and somehow unsafe at the same time. That’s often funny to me, is that they characterize natural medicine
as extremely dangerous, and yet it’s all placebo. Like, you know? So, it’s sort of this contradiction. They’re sort of a
hazard. They are admitting that it’s just completely propaganda. It’s not to say that someone couldn’t hurt themselves
by taking an exotic herb or taking too much of a vitamin, but it’s orders of magnitude safer in almost all situations
versus your conventional over the counter pharmaceutical preparations.

FUNCTIONAL MEDICINE: WHEN MEDS DON’T WORK
Dr. Elena Villanueva: The answer is not, well, take a pill for this symptom. Take a pill for this ill, so to speak, and cover
up the symptom and, oh, now you’re better. That’s not how it works, and that’s why we’re having more and more
people around the country by the thousands that are coming to find people that do the work that we do, because
they’ve already tried taking pills for symptoms and they are worse than they were before. And now, they are wanting
to figure out what’s causing the problem and they come to us. We figure out where the interferences are, we figure
out what they’re lacking and what they need, and we bring all of that back into balance. And not only do their other
organ functions come back into balance, but the brain chemistry follows.
HUGH HENDERSON, CANCER SURVIVOR: PERSONAL TESTIMONY
Hugh Henderson: Just days after I was diagnosed with terminal cancer, I had a PSA of 76. Most people have never
even heard of that number. It’s way off the charts. I was given as little as two months to live and as much as three
years to live if I had taken all of the traditional conventional solutions like radiation, chemo, hormones and that is just
about when I met Dr. Bush and his team. By chance, they were looking through my blood work because I wasn’t going
to mention it to them. I was there just looking to optimize my wellbeing and performance. So, when Dr. Bush saw that
my PSA was that high, which is pretty much seven times typically the worst PSA that indicates you are facing death.
Jonathan Otto: What was the number again?
Hugh Henderson: 76, and traditionally a patient who has a PSA of 10 is thought to be facing some kind of terminal
condition. I had 76. So, Dr. Bush immediately jumped into the picture and very kindly took over the case himself right
then and there. That’s right, three years, if I took all the treatments. Two months, if I was really unlucky. Yeah, I mean
personally, I was pretty calm about the whole thing. The way I grew up, we’d been near terminal situations, myself and
my family many times. So, I wasn’t disturbed by that. Two months, however, was way too short a time frame.
I should mention by the way that just a couple of weeks later, after the PSA test, I was found to have 16 tumors, I’m a
little bit more fatalistic.
We saw the PSA drop from 76 just soon after, maybe a month later, to around about 50. Then, soon after that, two,
three weeks after that, it dropped to 2.45, which is extraordinary to a 66-year-old individual.
It’s what you would expect from a young athlete, male. So, then the heat was off, and I was able just to continue
the natural way and the spiritual way as well. It was amazing. I met Dr. Bush in late September and by the middle of
December, maybe the 20th of December roughly, PSA had dropped a 2.45. By the middle of January we did the second
CAT scan on a high resolution because we want to see how much the tumors had shrunk, exactly. Every single tumor
had disappeared, totally. The only clue that there was ever a tumor was that in my hip, the tumor had eaten a hole
into the hip about that big. So there was a whole in my hip. Every other tumor had disappeared. That was mid January.
I have, as I mentioned earlier, a PSA of 2.45 which is to say it’s way below the healthiest child. I also have continuing CAT
scans that show the same thing, nothing. Even the hole in the bone has filled in, so that’s not even evident anymore.
So, in terms of cancer I would have to say as healed as one could possibly be.
FUNCTIONAL MEDICINE
Jonathan Otto: Fantastic. Dr. Mueller you just brought up something that I find fascinating, and that is the concept
of the double blinded placebo control studies, that are looking at testing. Is it true that they’re testing one added sup-
plement nutrient drug?

Dr. Rudy Mueller: Right.
Jonathan Otto: Right? They’re just testing ...
Dr. Rudy Mueller: One.
Jonathan Otto: And that’s
Dr. Rudy Mueller: One against something else, and then against the placebo.
Jonathan Otto: Okay.
Dr. Rudy Mueller: And then comparing the results of all three of those to see what occurs.
Jonathan Otto: And the problem is that because there are many things that are causing problems, there are many
things that are needed, and a combination of therapies. Not only purely nutritional.
Jonathan Otto: But even on the nutritional side, there’s multiple deficiencies. And then there are multiple things that
are obstructing.
Dr. Rudy Mueller: Yeah.
Jonathan Otto: Let’s say for example, detoxification.
Jonathan Otto: And then there’s multiple lifestyle factors on the other front, and then multiple other exposures that
are triggering it. Am I on the right track here?
Dr. Rudy Mueller: Yeah, absolutely.
Jonathan Otto: That are causing the problem.
I wouldn’t go so far to say that it wouldn’t help, because certainly a lot of these things have been studied, and now we
know that we can implement some of these, in certain conditions. Right? But the fact is that, is it always 100%? No. It’s
30 or 40, and we’re cheering over that, which is great, but we’re missing the boat. We’re not addressing these other
modifiable things. Right?
We have to shift our paradigm to, this one that this is multifactorial, that it’s personalized, it’s individualized to the
person that’s sitting in front of us, not to the masses. Not everybody in one community is going to have the same
cause to this thing.
Our medical system was developed based off of that one cause, one solution type of mindset. That’s perfectly fine,
but we need everybody to live in their zone. Right? There’s no place that I’d rather be, at least in the United States. If
I get in a car accident, if I have a heart attack, I am going to get the intervention that I need, at that time, to save my
life. But it’s the firemen that come in and save your house when it’s on fire. But you don’t call the firemen back, day
number two, to come rebuild your house, and use their tools, water hoses, fire access to rebuild your home. You call
in the carpenter.

With functional medicine, in this building analogy, it’s trying to identify the things that are going to cause the fire, prior
to it actually occurring, fixing it or repairing it to the best of our ability, and then giving it a personalized approach, and
getting the results.
INFLAMMATION
Dr. Dr. Justin Moseley: And really, one of the things I like to address is inflammation. It can be caused by different
things, different types of stresses, from mental stress to emotional stress to toxicity, to different things that we’re
doing to our bodies that actually increase inflammation. So, there’s different supplements for that from your ginger,
your turmeric, those types of things that actually lower inflammation.
But I think if people will start that kind of health journey, whether they’re looking at, I want to do testing or don’t want
to do testing. If I just look in my body and say, “How can I reduce the inflammation in general?” whether it’s drinking
clean water and reducing the chemicals that are in my food, just starting there and then looking at, Okay, how do I
feel there, now that I cleaned up my diet, I cleaned up my water? I’m still having these other issues, what other things
can I take to reduce inflammation?
The more inflammation that you reduce, then other symptoms start to go away. And then those symptoms that are
still there, they can look at more things, whether it’s, Hey let’s look for a parasite, because I’m still having these other
conditions. A lot of times when people get to the root cause of their inflammation, they see a lot of health changes by
addressing that.
TURMERIC — ANTI-INFLAMMATORY; BIOPERINE
Dr. Ryan Wohlfert: Turmeric, turmeric is great for overall health, because it decreases inflammation in your body. If
you combine that with the cinnamon and also the Omega-3 fish oil ... With a lot of people who have pain, like chronic
pain, incorporating that, I would say this, after you found out what the cause of your pain is, remove the interference
that could be causing the pain. Which could be toxins in your body or some time of spinal or nerve interference or
some type of spinal or nerve interference or some type of micronutrient deficiency.
Now, they’re going to have a better role or be able to contribute more to your health than if you just ... “I heard turmeric
is good.” I don’t want to prevent anybody from doing that, go for that because I dare say ... I don’t want to guarantee
it, but I don’t know if you’re going to hurt yourself by taking more spices and putting more spice in your life.
So, turmeric, great for inflammation in the body. Combine that with Omega-3 fish oil. Again, that’s also great for
inflammation, chronic pain, arthritis.So, when you take turmeric, you want to combine with bioperine, okay. What
Bioperine does it helps the bioavailability of turmeric in curcumin, which is the effective ingredient in turmeric to
decrease inflammation. So, the Bioperine allows it to get into the cells or the cells in your body, the brain can actually
use it to decrease the inflammation.
MEDICAL SCHOOL
Dr. Joel Kahn: Again, I’m fascinated and certainly wasn’t taught in medical school about the power of natural healing,
power of natural approaches. There’s many we could talk about when we talk about herbal approaches because I’ve
been schooled like all my colleagues and I have to stay up on prescription drugs and such, and they’ll have a role.
They’re not all bad all the time. If you’ve got a severe infection, you might need an antibiotic. But when we’re talking
about in my clinic and preventive medicine, herbal approaches are actually studied. The science is there.

You’re not going to find a doctor being approached by a pharmaceutical representative to talk about Ashwagandha, an
herbal preparation from a plant in India that helps you deal with stress, and deal with sleep, and deal with weight, and
deal with anxiety. You’re not going to have it. So most doctors don’t know these. It doesn’t mean there’s not science
there. It just means the science isn’t blasted all over like necessarily a new pharmaceutical drug is. It doesn’t mean
they’re actually even all that expensive.
HEMP — ADAPTOGENS
Julie Wilson: Well, my company’s called Betru Wellness, B-E-T-R-U Wellness. Hemp is the common denominator in
every one of our products. Of course, we add other superfoods and antioxidants to support and create these syner-
gistic formulas, but hemp is that one common denominator I want in all of our products. My goal, we actually have the
mission of making lives better. That’s on all of our packaging. That’s on our website, and that we truly mean that. We
want to make lives better, not just sell products. That’s easy. If we just worried about selling products to people and
making a dollar then we could really do anything. Probably something a lot easier with less ramifications for talking
about claims and whatnot, so I’m going to try and be careful here. I can’t make too many claims.
Jonathan Otto: It’s good for people to know, that way they can think about what’s being said and consider. Think
about what that might mean. Read between the lines, I mean.
Julie Wilson: I always tell people to do their own research.Some people will go to our website, and they’ll be like, “Well
it’s kind of vague. What does it do? What’s it going to heal? What’s it ... “ I’m like, “I can’t say that,” you know?
Jonathan Otto: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Julie Wilson: I can’t say what it’s going to heal in, and I don’t know, because then everybody’s different. That’s what I
love about adaptogenic formulas. We have one formula that’s an intraoral spray that you spray under the tongue, and
it’s full of adaptogenic herbs. What adaptogenic herbs are, you know, they adapt to the body. So some people, they
might have too much energy, and they need to be brought down a little bit. Other people might be down, and they
need to be brought back up again. That’s what I love about adaptogen. It’s like ginseng, astragalus. These herbs go in
the body, and they kind of start to balance out what’s out of balance, and they’re incredible.
And usually, these are herbs that are very robust. They could grow in really rough climates and terrain, because they
have that ability to adapt. Hence, the name. So, that’s one of our powerful products. I can’t really say what it’s going to
do, regardless of not being able to make claims. I don’t know sometimes what it might do in people, but I know that
those herbs are designed to support the body where it needs.
Liana Werner-Gray: So, I went and did also a live blood test. And in the live blood test, up on a big screen, I could see
my blood was riddled with parasites. Like, riddled. I saw all these little worms in my blood, invading my blood, taking
over my blood. It was disgusting. It made me feel so sick. I was like, how can my body right now be getting invaded
by parasites?
And so I spoke to a naturopath and she said, start drinking bentonite clay because that’s going to absorb all those
parasites and lock them into the clays antibodies and take them out of your body. When she was explaining the clay
to me, it just clicked. And intuitively I knew, yes, the clay is going to work for me. I need this clay in my life. And that’s
a great approach to healing is finding out about all of the plant kingdom and all of the things that can help you heal
and pick the ones that really excite you and resonate with you. But I believe bentonite clay is here to help us for the

next 1500 years to get through this major detox period that we’re going through. And also, to absorb heavy metals
and all the toxins that are in our environment from the chemtrails so we can keep our brains super sharp and clear.
So, I started drinking the clay and I did a lot more research about it and found out that it’s volcanic ash. And it’s taken
years to form in some deposits around the world and that there is a deposit in Australia. There’s one in India. There’s
also one in Hawaii, and then there’s one in Wyoming. And the one where I source my clay from is Utah.
FULVIC & PARASITES
John Schott: So, we talked a little bit about chlorella, fulvic acid and cordyceps. Those actually I do like. Because those
are gentle for the body and they will get some of these constituents out of the body, especially the fulvic.
So the fulvic minerals, what they do is it starts to go and take what’s called a biofilm or a calcium shell, that these par-
asites and these organisms create around them so that they are not penetrated by some of these herbal constituents
that we’ve been using for thousands of years, and for a long time that are effective. But now we’re seeing that they’re
not as effective as they were that say 50 100 years ago because of these biofilm.
Now the biofilm has made it a lot more tricky and it needs a slightly more sophisticated approach. So, we need to break
that biofilm or calcium shell around these organisms so that we can expose them. And then we can use things like
clove, oregano, and some of these other herbs that you mentioned so that they can destroy some of these parasites
and the body can flush them out.
FULVIC ACID
Jonathan Otto: And what you’ll find as well, the third final step. He used this particular approach when he recom-
mended to Tenille Wheeler to use fulvic acid to help repair her leaky gut. This is because fulvic acid is called the ulti-
mate nutrient booster, because it has over 70 micronutrients, 18 amino acids, and 13 organic acids. So, it’s, you know,
this, this liquid fulvic minerals or fulvic acid has the ability to go into the body and deposit rich nutrients from ancient
sources that have been compacted through just a few places in the world.
So, it’s actually quite rare to find high-quality fulvic acid. And so, what this is able to do is to deposit rich nutrients into
the body, and one of the major ways that it does this is because of the low molecular weight it has. It has the ability
to cross cell membranes. And this is really important when it comes to repairing leaky gut and to deposit nutrients in
the body. And most importantly, or equally as important, is to pull the toxins out.
So that’s why fulvic acid is described as the mailman and the trash bin disposal. Mailman comes to drop their mail off
and says, “Hey, I’ve got something for you,” gives something of value to you. For some people, they’re getting mail that
they don’t want, but most people, you know, most of the things we’re getting, especially if we’re ordering something
we want, they’re coming to bring the things that we want. So, the deposit of the good. And then, what fulvic acid will
do is then he’ll be the trash bin disposal as well, and say, “Hey, do you have something that you need taken out to the
trash? I got a few spare hands here.” Grabs that trash, takes it out.
And that’s the amazing kind of miracle within fulvic acid, in its ability of fulvic minerals to go into the body, deposit rich
nutrients, pull out toxic metals, toxic pollutants, things that have come through, like toxic BPA and BPS. You know, it’s
like when they took the BPA out, the BPS wasn’t any better, and the other environmental toxins that we’re exposed to,
other bacteria. This is an antimicrobial and it’s a gut cleanser as well as being an amazing nutrient booster.

ESSENTIAL OILS AND ANEMIA: JANET’S SON: PERSONAL TESTIMONY
Jonathan Otto: So Janet, tell me about the effect of oils on your son. Like what happened? What was that experience?
How old is your son by the way?
Janet: He is 27 now, but about six years ago he quit producing his own white blood cells and platelets and needed a
bone marrow transplant to fix that. It was not cancerous, but it is what it is. And it’s called aplastic anemia.
And he left the hospital understanding there was nothing that would help him with his white blood cell count. But we
know citruses do, so we did some research. Lemon oil in particular does. And he took it regularly and it helped him
extend the amount of time between transfusions, which he had to get frequently for several years. And then one day
his counts, he had to go get his blood tested every two weeks, his counts dropped by 10 points and he was starting
to get the red dots on his skin, which is petechiae, I believe it’s called. So that’s where you could start hemorrhaging
internally. And I was just so frustrated. I said, “I can’t believe that lemon just quit working overnight.” And he goes, “Oh.
I forgot to tell you. I ran out of it.” So then we got him another bottle right away, and again his blood was tested two
weeks later, and it was right back up to where it stayed. I wish I had more details, but that was amazing.
Jonathan Otto: That’s awesome. So his blood cell count, white blood cell count, went down when he was not taking
the lemon oil. But when he was taking the oil, it was-
Janet: Yeah. He basically had no immune system and he couldn’t reproduce his own blood, so he had to get transfu-
sions all the time. But as a result, you have no ability to fight off infection when your white blood cell count is that low.
So it kept him ... He actually never got sick. I probably got more colds than he did during those three years. He was
doing other things with the oils and such, but it was an excellent bridge for him to have some sort of immune support.
ESSENTIAL OILS & PAIN RELIEF
Dr. Mariza Snyder: The central nervous system. The endocannabinoid system, there are two different types of re-
ceptor sites. They call them the cb1 and cb2 receptors, and what we’ve learned is that essential oils connect into the
cb2 receptors. Now the cb2 receptors are connected to the endocrine system, are connecting to our cardiovascular
system and connecting to the central nervous system.
What we wanted to look at is how those particular chemical constituents for in the terpene group, there is a very spe-
cific chemical constituent called beta-caryophyllene. That particular chemical constituent can not only reduce panic
attacks and anxiety, but also modulate pain and modulate the central nervous system.
You know, sometimes when our central nervous system is out of whack, whether it was because of trauma, maybe
toxicity or maybe even a latent infection. We can hyperactive activate the central nervous system, so maybe we’re
dealing with tremors or we’re dealing with spastic muscles.
When you use an oil like copaiba that comes from Brazil, that has a very, very high concentration of beta-caryophyl-
lene we can actually see after you take one drop or maybe even two, although two is max. You don’t want to do more
than two drops of this essential oil under the tongue. It goes into the bloodstream. It gets into the cb2 receptors and
it begins to modulate the central nervous system and it starts to shift the way that we receive pain signals inside of
the body. It also has an ability to create an inhibitory response, which helps to lower anxiety and panic attacks. A lot of
people, if they’re feeling, let’s say they’re feeling that anxiousness and they’re filling that their heart is speeding up and
their chest is tightening. They know they’re about to have anxiety or an anxiety attack. Just taking one to two drops of
an oil like copaiba or even maybe frankincense will actually significantly reduce the response system that they have
when they’re actually having that anxiety or panic attack.

I love that we can leverage this powerful plant-based chemistry to have an immediate response that doesn’t have a lot
of side effects. Really side benefits. Because while that oil is helping to reduce that panic attack or helping to reduce
that chronic pain that someone’s dealing with, it’s also shifting the way that our endocrine system’s working. It’s shift-
ing the way that our heart is functioning. It’s having really profound benefits on the receptor sites of ourselves and
creating really powerful changes inside of the body.
It’s wonderful when we ... We may be using an oil for one specific reason or one specific issue that we’re dealing with,
but we have to realize that those chemical constituents are going to every single cell in the body. Literally, because
they’re lipophilic, they’re going into the cell membrane through the cell membrane and changing not only genetic
expression, protein expression, but also the way that hormones are binding to those receptor sites.
Jonathan Otto: Awesome. Are you saying essential oils have the ability to actually communicate with our genetic
expression and help us work out dissonance or resolve dissonance inside the genetic expression? Is that possible?
Dr. Mariza Snyder: That is absolutely possible. Yes. We’re learning that these chemicals ... If we think about emotions
and I think about emotions as being molecules, so they’re ligands inside of the body. Basically kind of proteins. That’s
the same thing is that these chemical constituents are communication and they’re helping to support other commu-
nication whether they are turning on ion channels, whether they’re decreasing ion channels or they’re helping the
receptivity of a hormone or a ligand connect to a cell or inside of a cell.
There’s a lot of different ways that essential oils and those chemical constituents are having an effect inside of the cell
and having an effect on protein and genetic regulation. I mean, what I think about is leveraging the use of essential
oils is absolutely changing how we can think about epigenetics.
PHANTOM PAIN AND ESSENTIAL OILS
Jonathan Otto: Thank you so much. And what benefits has it had for you? How did the person use it that had that
traumatic accident?
Janet: Oh. A friend’s son, his toes were cut off. And I went up to the children’s hospital where he was at, and he was
having tremendous phantom pain. So she put the oils that would help with that on his other foot, on his other toes.
And it did more for him than all the medicine and therapy that they could offer him. Your body knows where to put the
oils. So if you have a cast on one arm, you put the oils on the healthy arm and your body will distribute where needed.
Jonathan Otto: I got this one on phantom nerve pain, where the kid had his toes chopped off by the lawnmower and
he was registering pain, but he didn’t have so they couldn’t do anything about, but they applied essential oils to other
toes and it somehow sent a signal to his brain that this was being applied or just reset it, and the pain went away. And
it was just a young child so he couldn’t fake that. It was such an interesting story that calmed a child and took away
his pain.
Jeff Styba: That’s awesome. We had the same story. A 22 year old kid, he lost his leg; he got hit by a drunk driver and
they had to amputate his leg. He was on opioids for the pain, like Fentanyl and all these high level painkillers because
he still had this massive pain. Like he always felt like he did right when he woke up from the accident. And he started
using ... he is now off all the drugs and he doesn’t have it anymore.
Jonathan Otto: Yeah, and then how essential oils could then transfer to another part of the body that somebody
doesn’t even have because it’s been removed, and then when they’re experiencing phantom pain, why would the es-
sential oils help them not to feel that pain? What message are those potent herbs or those plants sending?

Dr. Daniel Nuzum: It would have to be that anti-inflammatory effect that they have. They have an anti-inflammatory
effect. When a part of your body is injured, the nervous system registers that injury, and so the nervous system feels
this injury, and it starts sending signals back to your brain, that my foot was injured. And the immediate response the
body has to that injury, that irritation, is an inflammatory response. In the case of the little boy that lost his toes, even
though the toes are gone, and he couldn’t feel in them anymore, his nerves are registering that there’s an injury there,
and so there still would be that signal to have an inflammatory response, even though the toes were gone. So, if you
are rubbing those on one foot, they get into the bloodstream and go over to the other foot, reduce the inflammation
there, then the pain signals start settling down.
DOCTRINE OF SIGNATURES — POMEGRANATE
Sayer Ji: All right. All right. So, okay. Doctrine of signatures, okay. So, one of the most amazing examples of the doctrine
of signatures that I’ve stumbled upon in my investigation of the scientific literature on natural healing is pomegranate.
Because pomegranate, if you slice it in half, actually looks like an ovary, right? You could take a rat ovary, a human
ovary. It’s very similar. And it turns out that it is the fruiting ovary of the pomegranate plant. So, it is actually an ovary.
So those seeds actually are baby pomegranate plants. So that’s interesting.
But what happens that’s really interesting, is that in the relatively violent vivisection model of animal research, they
take female rats, they pull out their ovaries. Within a matter of a few weeks, they have full blown perimenopausal,
menopausal symptoms. They get depressed, their bone mineral density starts to decelerate. They get midsection fat.
This is what happens at the change of life for women. Their ovaries start to decline in function, ovarian reserve, right?
And that’s the beginning of perimenopause and menopause.
So, you give one group of rats pomegranate and it’s as if they never took the ovaries out. So, these are ovariectomy-in-
duced menopause rats, you give them ovary, and it’s as if they never had their ovaries taken out. And, that’s because
it actually functions like an ovary in the human body and the mammal body.
It actually has steroidal hormones, they discovered, like ethisterone, one of three major human or mammalian estro-
gens. It has testosterone, it has components that you shouldn’t find in a plant. But, it’s there.
So, in the case of the ovary of the pomegranate bush, and the human, it’s an example of poetry in nature and in science.
And, the reasons why this came about, previous to the discovery of microRNAs, they didn’t understand how different
kingdoms of life, like plant and animal, could share genetic information. I mean, we knew that there’s horizontal transfer
of information through viruses, for example.
But, it turns out that these microRNAs, that are found within all living things, the foods we eat, for example, within our
bodies, they can basically transfer information over to an entirely different kingdom of life. And that’s why you might
have a butterfly that looks like the flower of some plant that it’s landing on to pollinate, and they have the exact same
patterns. How, I mean other than obviously God, right, they crafted this, but now we at least know the mechanisms
that are at play that would make that possible.
So theoretically, all of life on this planet, every species, is connected and constantly in communication. It’s like an open
access network. Previous to that, old school, Darwinian biologists thought that the DNA is locked into the nucleus
of the cell, it can never escape. The only way it can is to reproduce vertically. There’s no horizontal transfer. It takes
thousands of years for a gene to change over time.
Now we know in real time, just eating a pomegranate will totally affect my physiology. It can alter my gene expression.
It can keep me alive decades longer than if I didn’t have it helping me out. It’s just, that’s how nature works, and that’s
why food is so essential.

The right foods, if you’re eating a genetically modified tomato grown in a petrochemical or factory farm, animal waste
with this sick microbiome, ionic bonds all ripped apart and altered, the information in that tomato is just garbage, right,
that you’re putting into yourselves. It’s telling your genes to just misfire, mis-wire, mis-express.
But you take a nice, organically grown one that’s been loved and been bathed in the cycles of nature, the information,
the qualitative energy is orders of magnitude different, that that’s what heals you. And that’s the difference, because
on the package it’s, oh, how many calories, how much protein, how many vitamins? They’re not looking at any of that.
It’s the quality that sustains our life, not the quantitative stuff.
DOCTRINE OF SIGNATURES
Dr. Sruti Lam: So I want to talk about something called doctrine of signatures. Doctrine of signatures has been around
from the 27 CE, before men knew what each plant was. Genesis 1:29 says that God created every plant for our food,
and He continues to say that he gave us fruit for food and plants for healing. But our early ancestors did not know
what was good for food, and what was poisonous, and what was good for whatever.
So that’s how they developed the doctrine of signatures. Doctrine of signatures means that the plants have intelligent
design showing what they were used for or what they are good for. So just a few examples that I have over here. Let’s
start with the walnut. Walnut has the intricate design of a brain. If you look at it closely it looks like two hemispheres
of the brain. The walnut actually is very high in Omega-3 fatty acids which helps with the nervous system but helps
brain health. Omega-3 fatty acids are very high fatty acids and our brain is made up of 60% fat. That is the energy that
we need to think properly, to speak clearly, to be able to do our daily functions. Walnut is excellent for brain health,
for energy, and it also is a great signature of the brain.
In the same manner we can go over to other herbs that I have over here is ginger. Ginger is a root plant and if you look
closely at ginger, depending on how the ginger plant looks like, the ginger root looks like, it can look like the stomach
and the intestines. Ginger is excellent for digestion. It helps with gas, and bloating; it is a great anti-inflammatory
herb that has been used in various cuisines to help with inflammation, general inflammation of the body, especially
gut inflammation. We use ginger to actually repair leaky gut. It is very antibacterial and antimicrobial. It can kill the
bad bacteria or opportunistic bacteria and will actually help heal the gut lining. So that is the doctrine of signature of
ginger is the stomach or the gut.
Another fruit we have here is the avocado. This is a mini avocado that I have here but if you look at the avocado and you
break it into two, you cut it in half, it looks like the womb of a woman or the uterus. Avocado is very high in Omega-3
fatty acids as well and it actually helps with the lining of the uterus. This is an excellent food during pregnancy and
great for fertility. Avocado is becoming more and more popular and people are eating avocado with a lot of different
things. Before it was just located or used mostly in Mexican cuisine or Hispanic cuisine. Now every culture loves avo-
cado and it’s imported and exported to different parts of the country for it. It has great satiety, very high fiber, and a
bunch of nutrients.
And right here we have the tomato. If you cut the tomato you will see distinct chambers depending on what tomato
you get. You see over here it has two distinct chambers which is just like the heart. Tomatoes are very high in lycopene
which actually helps balance out blood pressure, decreases bad cholesterol, and really helps with circulation. So this
is the signature of a heart and that’s what tomato is excellent for.

PHARMACEUTICALS AND SIDE EFFECTS
Sayer Ji: Well, yeah. This is my understanding of pharmaceutical medicine, is that when they do these preclinical trials
and then clinical trials, they’ll find certain side effects will emerge. And so maybe they’re looking for a drug for diabetes
and they find that one of the primary effects, right, direct effects, is that it makes them sleepy, because it’s technically
maybe destroying their brain cells. Let’s say it’s neurotoxic.Then they’ll repackage that side effect or direct effect as a
therapeutic one, because they’ll just say, well, let’s make this into a sedative. Or, you know, this is a sleep enhancer.
And it’s invariably shown to be true that most of the drugs the FDA approves as safe and effective get pulled off the
market before the patent comes to. So, you know, within 17 years or something like that, half the drugs are already
pulled off the market because they’ve caused so much damage and harm.
So what’s so interesting to me is that you look at the average medication that’s been approved, right, on the market
and you have potentially about 70 side effects that you’ll find in the actual insert of the drug. And there’s this one of
the effects, right, that their packaging has beneficial, but natural medicines, invariably when I do my indexing on a
topic like echinacea, for example, and I have a pretty exhaustive data set on it, it’s like there are 70 other beneficial
effects have been identified that this herb is capable of articulating and, you know, so it’s really interesting, but the
way they’ve inverted it in the media, which the media outside of election cycles is primarily funded by pharma. And
we know now that Google, for example, has signed deals with GlaxoSmithKline of, you know, almost a billion dollars.
So we know that Big Pharma is now directly altering the information we’re getting in the mainstream news as well as,
you know, obviously search engines like Google. And so people aren’t really aware that natural medicines technically
carry many side benefits whereas pharmaceuticals, you know, it’s pretty clear. I mean, you listen to these drug ads and
there’s like a litany of serious side effects, and death is usually one of them. So it’s sort of hidden in plain daylight. But
natural medicine, and when we say natural medicine too, I’m referring more to the fact that these compounds that
are growing outside, you know, this room, or the food that we eat; it could be a salad. It contains information and not
just sources of calories and building blocks for the body machine. And that information is so important in regulating
our health that they’ve identified that there are these little microparticles in foods called exosomes that carry what are
known as microRNAs. Now it sounds kind of obscure and it’s like micro, they’re so small. What could they do? Turns
out that microRNA is, within our own bodies regulate most of the protein coding genes, the ones that for decades,
they’re like, oh, this is the holy grail.
If we find out the protein coding genes in the human genome, then we know what causes disease and how to cure
it. At the end of the first draft of the project in 2005 they only found, you know, that 2% of the human DNA codes for
these proteins. The rest is primarily RNAs. And the microRNA is, within that subset, are the ones that are like master
regulators. So they control, if you will, or supervene upon the expression of the hard-coded, protein coding genes.
What does, what does that mean? Well, it means that foods actually contain these gene regulatory nucleic acids and
that they technically therefore can help to articulate and express, you know, our, our well being in a way that we never
imagined. So, so in other words, when you’re talking about food as medicine or you’re looking at herbs and their effects,
pharmaceuticals are literally these singular chemicals, you know, mono-chemicals that they altered.
So there’s no precedent in nature for them. They try to, you know, pretend like they’re natural compounds, but they
alter them. So you have this extremely unique poison that nobody in the planet’s been exposed to before and you’re
expecting that that’s going to somehow translate into, to health? No. And we know that there’s hundreds of thousands
of people that die every year from correctly prescribed drugs. And that’s based on, you know, very inaccurate report-
ing. There’s far more they’ll never be able to causally connect to taking a prescription drug because Americans are
sometimes on 10 of them. But in natural food, a salad, a pomegranate, you know, vitamin seeds, never been known to
harm a single person on the planet. In fact, we know that there are cases of miraculous recovery from serious disease
simply by doing things like raw juicing, you know? So I think it’s because food contains information.

SUPPLEMENTS
Jonathan Otto: Should I take a supplement?
Dr. John Dempster: You know where we get a lot of this stuff?
Jonathan Otto: Where?
Dr. John Dempster: We get it through some really nice products, but we also get it through our food so we’ve got to
make sure that we’re doing both at the same time.
Jonathan Otto: Fantastic, what a great take away. And then when we do both we can maximize whereas if somebody
is ... A lot of people fall on one side of that fence. Somebody’s like, “Oh, I don’t want to take a supplement.” The other
person says, “Oh, I just want to take a supplement. I don’t want to change my diet.” Thankfully that both parties are
at least half way there.
Dr. John Dempster: Yeah, totally.
Jonathan Otto: And I
Dr. John Dempster: I always tell my patients, “You can’t go to McDonald’s and think you’re going to be okay even
though you’re taking the best supplements in the world. You’ve got to make sure that you meet in the middle because
this is an all hands on deck approach.
Jonathan Otto: Again, this one will probably make you feel conflicted, this question. So if somebody is just like,
“Whatever John, I’m going to go to McDonald’s. That’s how I’m going to live.” Should I take the supplement or not?
Dr. John Dempster: Yeah, you should, because you know what? It’s going to do something, but it’s not going to give
you the net gain that you could probably get. You know, think of your body as a bank account. If we’re putting in $200
every single day. That’s pretty good, right? But what happens if we’re withdrawing $1000 every single day. Well, we
have a net loss, but at least you’re mitigating that loss by taking some very high quality supplements.
HERBS TO USE FOR DETOX
Jonathan Otto: The first priority is to remove the toxins. Over time, no matter how healthy your lifestyle is, toxic
chemicals and heavy metals will accumulate in your organs and tissues. Heavy metals include such things such as
mercury from fish and dental fillings, lead from pipes and paint, cadmium, and furniture and household products and
many others.
Additionally, we’re all exposed to herbicides, pesticides, air pollution, food additives, and chemicals in thousands of
products that we use. It’s impossible to completely avoid these exposures, which can lead to many nonspecific symp-
toms, brain fog, headaches, fatigue, mood changes, and others.
Fortunately, you can help reduce your body’s toxic overload by using nutrients that help remove these accumulated
toxins and heavy metals. Here are some key nutrients that detox experts recommend.
Silymarin. This powerful herb, which is actually the milk thistle plant, helps detoxify the liver. It’s also an antioxidant,
so it helps scavenge free radicals that damage your cells and DNA.
Humic and fulvic acid. Due to decades of soil nutrient depletion, we don’t get the minerals that we need today. These
bioactive compounds are deep earth or ancient mineral substances that help chelate or bond with toxins and heavy

metals to remove them from the body. They also work as powerful free radical scavengers. Plus, they support immune
health.
Uva ursi leaf, also known as bearberry. This plant nutrient has been used traditionally to support liver and kidney
health. Cordyceps mushroom. This medicinal mushroom has been used for centuries for its anti-aging and general
health promotion benefits. When it comes to detox, cordyceps promotes the excretion of toxins via the kidneys. It also
offers support for immune health.
Rhodiola rosea. This is an adaptogenic herb used international healing to detoxify the body, increase energy and offer
antioxidant protection. If you aren’t familiar with adaptogens, they are unique healing plants that help you respond to
any type of stressor by bringing the body back to balance.
GINSENG AND GUT HEALTH
Dr. Sruti Lam: Ginseng is very antimicrobial because of the bitterness. It is great for any kind of candida, any kind of
salmonella typhi, which cause Typhoid fever, leptospirae, which is a lung infection, leptospirosis.
It can also be used for sinus infections, and for gut infections, and for people who are loaded with a lot of fungus in
their body or have dysbiosis because they have opportunistic microorganisms in their bodies that cause infection.
Ginseng kills all of that. Ginseng is great for any kind of parasites that we have ingested in our body that can cause any
kind of diarrhea, or vomiting, or stomach upset. Ginseng is a good herb in helping cleanse all of those things. Ginseng
is a great digestive herb especially being a liver tonic and antiparasitic.
CLOSING STATEMENT
Dr. Mariza Snyder: I am. I’m super excited about it. I think it’s great because people, they began what the number one
goal for me is the idea of hope. How do we shift the way that people think in terms of healthcare and what is possible?
If we think that we’ve got the power to make those changes inside of our body, that with the right tools in our hands
that we can elicit beautiful health and resilience, then to me that that is phenomenal and that’s my biggest message.
That’s why I love oils because they open the door for what’s possible. When people see a response in less than 60
seconds and they go from one state to the next, that changes everything. All of a sudden they believe that natural
medicine actually has a place in their lives and maybe it should be the number one place in their life.
WHY NATURAL REMEDIES? DISEASE CAN BE REVERSED
Dr. Joel Fuhrman: My passion is the power of nutritional excellence, have people transform their life, get better from
diseases and age slower, and have a healthy life expectancy and a great healthy life when they get older.
In other words, what I’m saying right now is that most of the illnesses that plague Americans are not only preventable,
but they’re able to be reversedI do what I do because I’m passionate about this type of work. It’s so exciting and per-
sonally rewarding to watch people transform their lives and get rid of their diabetes, not control their diabetes, not
take something to make it better, but to get rid of it and be non-diabetic and live a healthy life, to get rid of their heart
disease, to make full recoveries from lupus, to not have asthma anymore, to not be depressed anymore, to not have
fibromyalgia. In other words, to people to make psoriasis to disappear.

Jonathan Otto: After hearing this incredible new information and learning what it means to use natural medicines to
heal, I hope your mind and heart has awoken to the possibility that these methods may actually be what your body
really needs. In this series we will continue to go through more and more information on diseases that you may have
never realized are reversible. Because when the body is brought into its ultimate state of health, the healing will take
place naturally. Our bodies are made to heal themselves and if we can support them and make sure all of our organs
are working properly and we can cleanse our bodies and reduce inflammation, then we will get the opportunity to
experience true healing. Too often, we feel there is no true way to heal, that we can only mask the symptoms and be
on lifetime medications. But chronic illness doesn’t have to remain chronic. You don’t have to keep suffering. You can
reach out and take these tools and methods into your hands and begin to transform your life. We want to continue
with you through this journey as we bring you life-altering information in the rest of this series. We hope you’ll con-
tinue to join us.

EPISODE 2
STRESS & ANXIETY, THE CORTISOL CONNECTION,
ADRENALS, FATIGUE, AND BLOOD SUGAR
Jonathan Otto: We live in a world where we are surrounded by pressure and weighed down with stresses that our
ancestors didn’t face. Is it any wonder that 40 million Americans are suffering from anxiety? Have you felt like you were
just living day to day constantly trying to keep up with the demands of life, but are still falling behind? Have you felt
fatigued and unable to stay alert and engaged with your work or your family? Or maybe you are like 90% of Americans
that feel they need caffeine to make it through the day. Is this normal? Because it seems so many people are self-med-
icating with coffee and energy drinks, we fall into the mindset that this is all just part of life. But, are we truly supposed
to be dependent on stimulants just to make it through the day? What could be causing this mass addiction in society?
Our bodies produce a hormone called cortisol. This is our fight or flight hormone. It tells our body to run or stay and
fight. In our current American culture, we are bombarded by daily stresses that trigger our cortisol response. When
this hormone is sustained at a high level for a prolonged period of time, numerous problems can start to arise, such
as chronic inflammation. This chronic inflammation can manifest itself in different ways throughout the body which
can trigger several autoimmune responses.
Our adrenal glands are what regulates our body’s stress response and tells our body to produce cortisol. The adrenals
also regulate sleep, energy, blood sugar and blood pressure. Too few people realize that that prolonged stressful
situation at work could be a catalyst for multiple health catastrophes. We can actually wear out our adrenal glands by
remaining in a constantly stressed state. When the adrenals start to “burn out”, all these functions in our body start
to malfunction.
STRESS — CORTISOL RELATED TO DISEAS
Jonathan Otto: We’re on a subject that’s important to me and I think important to my audience, or should be, which
is on this blood sugar issue. Relevant to Sarah, relevant to me, relevant to my sister. Massive dehydration, like to the
point where I could drink three gallons in a day and still feel thirsty all day. So there is that; fatigue, so feeling wiped
out, especially in the mornings, wiped out when I wake up like I didn’t sleep or something like that, obviously. Then
fog, mental fog, brain fog. I mean, there are a few symptoms. Susceptibility to blood viruses. I know I’ve had fever,
glandular fever, cytomegalovirus, Epstein-Barr. I know I’ve had those, as some examples. Different skin rashes; had
boils when I was a kid, quite a bit, like around teenage years, adolescence.
Dr. Olivia Joseph: I think, when you say in the beginning the water, water, water, the issue is our water doesn’t have
a lot of minerals so if you use the right type of salt, Celtic sea salt, pink Himalayan sea salt. You need... If you’re de-
hydrated what do they do? They give you salt water, right? Why? Because you need the salt to pull the water into the
cell. Otherwise you just urinate it out and the cell never gets hydrated. I think mineral deficiency is a huge issue. Now
in somebody that’s actually drinking a ton of water, and thirsty, and fatigued, I think it makes sense to check insulin
levels and C-peptide levels to make sure that person’s not type 1 diabetic. Makes sense to check a glucose average,
but you can rule those things out in somebody who’s young and who’s not overweight and really what you’re dealing
with is... You really want to look at cortisol levels, get a really good cortisol test, a 24-hour urinary or salivary cortisol,
because you have to understand your adrenal gland, what regulates cortisol, stress, energy, sleep, but also blood
sugar, blood pressure.
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DR. TODD WATTS: PERSONAL TESTIMONY
Dr. Todd Watts: So my own personal journey in dealing with my own family. I have four beautiful children and amazing
wife and when I was 40 years old, I was struggling with serious fatigue, chronic fatigue, in fact, pain, anxiety, issues of
losing everything in my life. I lost everything; even my cars back in the crash of 2008 and today I turned around and
overcome all these chronic illnesses to be able to help other people do the same thing today. In my practice today,
I see many people suffering with anxiety, depression, and insomnia like most of it has to go back to gut health and
that’s our approach is what’s going on in your gut that could be creating the problems.
MELANIE KENNAMANN: PERSONAL TESTIMONY
Melanie Kennamann: I had been having some health issues, I’m an overachiever, I ran movie sets for years and then
I got into real estate and was super active for multiple decades and it’s that at one point I just couldn’t anymore. I
couldn’t get out of bed, I didn’t feel good, I didn’t feel like myself and I had gone to... I went to the ER two times, “What’s
going on with me?” Could never really figure out what was wrong. You know it wasn’t anything like debilitating, but it
was debilitating, you couldn’t tell from the outside that something was wrong. I looked like I was me but on the inside
I was just exhausted and just something was off.
CORTISOL & INSULIN
Dr. Olivia Joseph: So, cortisol and insulin are inversely proportional, so when you’ve got somebody with a blood
sugar problem they’re pretty likely to have a cortisol problem. The problem with that is cortisol is regulating all your
sex hormones; cortisol is regulating DHEA, pregnenolone. Your body needs those raw materials to make estrogen,
progesterone, and testosterone. So, what you’re seeing is you’re seeing these hormone issues, and these gut issues,
and these detoxification issues in these people with blood sugar problems like diabetes. You see? It’s all connected.
ADRENAL GLANDS & THYROID
Dr. Olivia Joseph: If you have healthy adrenal glands, I’ll tell you what, your hormone system is going to be in good
shape, your energy levels, your sleep quality, how you respond to stress, your sex hormones, your blood sugar, your
blood pressure. Cortisol is pretty important in just keeping things in check, including the thyroid.
Jonathan Otto: Yeah, wow. You’re right on. So, cortisol helps to regulate, keep the thyroid in shape, helps the blood
sugar.
Dr. Olivia Joseph: So, the cortisol affects how you absorb thyroid hormone, so this is when you run into people who
have normal thyroid levels. You know, normal is, I kind of roll my eyes at that term, because usually it means that
person hasn’t had enough testing and they haven’t been tested properly. Sometimes you do get the right testing and
your levels are still normal but you have all these thyroid symptoms where they could be coming because your adrenal
gland isn’t allowing your thyroid hormones to absorb properly. Sometimes hormones, you have these people taking
these crazy synthetic hormones, they block the thyroid receptor sites and you can find that out with the proper testing.

HORMONES AND HEART DISEASE
Jonathan Otto: In your practice, what would you say are some of the most common health problems that you see in
your female patients?
Dr. Joel Kahn: Well actually I have an advanced preventive cardiology clinic, advanced heart clinic dedicated to the early
detection and reversal of heart disease. So unfortunately, I have technologies in ultrasound and computer analysis,
I diagnose a lot of women very early in life with the development of atherosclerosis, hardening of the arteries, years
before they might be at risk of needing a stent, a bypass, having a stroke. But it’s aging and it’s not a happy time to tell
a 39 year old woman that she has the arteries of a 58 year old woman, and then we have to take a deep dive into what
the lifestyle is like, what are they advanced labs like, and put together a program of plant diets, fitness, sleep, stress
reduction, cessation of smoking, of course. Very often some herbal and natural supplements that have some exciting
evidence for reducing atherosclerosis.
And then the happy news in my practice is a year later I tested these people, and they’re much younger by direct ex-
amination of the artery. So that’s a very big segment. It’s not a common segment in most practices. If you don’t look
for it, you’re not going to find it. But I look for it and try to reverse it before it’s ever a problem. Then there are skipped
beats, racing beats, what we call palpitations. Very common. Can be poor sleep, can be stress, anxiety, can be thyroid,
can be poor nutrition for sure. It can be caffeine excess.
Jonathan Otto: What a shock to find out that a continued stressful situation in your life could lead to a thyroid condi-
tion. Not only that but it can be affecting your hormones in other ways that you hadn’t even realized. Many Americans
suffer from low libido and even take medication for it, never realizing the ultimate cause is something as simple as
learning about how to alleviate stress and promote healthy adrenals. Stress and anxiety can also be big triggers for
heart disease as well. High levels of cortisol can lead to lack of sleep and low energy, which can lead to self-medicating
with caffeine. All of these components contribute to a damaged immune system that needs time and care to heal
and repair.
Our body is such a complex system. Much like a computer, if you are to take out one piece of the working system,
the entire thing begins to malfunction. We often associate symptoms with the location that they are occurring. For
example, you are having arthritis pain, then there must be something wrong with your joints. However, leaky gut or
stress can often be the true cause of joint inflammation and therefore resolving these issues may resolve chronic joint
pain. When we are able to view the body in this way; understanding it all works together as a system, there’s a sudden
epiphany. We need to take care of our body throughout our lives. This is the system we live within and are a part of
and if we are working against our own system, it will eventually fail. Almost as if our mind and our decisions become
the virus within the system, working at cross-purposes against ourselves.
MELANIE KENNAMANN: PERSONAL TESTIMONY
Melanie Kennamann: And so I went to see a regular doctor and the regular doctor, like a traditional doctor I should
say. He was asking me all these questions about my lifestyle and things like that and his solution for me was, “Well
why don’t you just quit your job and take an antidepressant.” And I was so insulted by that diagnosis. I’m like, “First
of all you don’t know who you’re talking to, I’m somebody who is a really... I try to do things... I intend to live a natural
life,” and I know that that would just be a... I’m not pro-drugs at all unless they’re absolutely necessary and I believe in
nutrition and your lifestyle things like that, I do a lot of life coaching with people.
And so I was like, well I just felt misunderstood that I’m never going to find out this reason why I don’t feel the way I
should be feeling and so then I had one of my colleagues, my goodness our broker actually, Jean Grebb she said, “You
know, I think you should go meet my doctor.” And at the time he was with another practice in Austin. She said “Why
don’t you go see Dr. Oubre I think you’ll really like him, I’ll mention him to you.” and I had all different kinds of symptoms
going on that I couldn’t piece them together why they would be happening and so I went and saw Dr. Oubre and he was
able to, in that first visit, get to the source of what was going on and I felt like somebody finally understands me right?
I was like, here’s this woman who’d been looking for about... I guess that had happened in December the year before
and then in the Summer I had gone to that other doctor and this was October and I was like, “Oh yeah, somebody
understands me”. He said, “I think it’s three things.” And he just nailed them off and then when I came back to do the
follow up he had a solution for me. He said, “Well it’s actually something called adrenal fatigue, it’s often totally misdi-
agnosed and underfound by doctors or regular medical doctors but it’s really, your body is having a hard time dealing
with all of this go, go, go that you’re doing.” And so I was surprised he wasn’t trying to prescribe some drug; he was
giving me these supplements, adrenal supplements and change your diet, cut out caffeine, all of these things that I
could do naturally, you know, getting good sleep all this stuff to reset my body and so I was like, “Well I absolutely love
this approach, this is something that I can do and hopefully share with others.” Because anything that I do I always
want to share with our agents and things like that.
BALANCING FEMALE HORMONES
Dr. Olivia Joseph: What we’re doing is brushing them under the rug, or we’re giving people synthetic hormones. Girls
are given birth control for low progesterone, but taking synthetic hormones like that, are going to drive your hormonal
imbalances deeper. Because after a while, your body’s going to stop... Even though it was producing small amounts of
hormones, which, it needed to be producing more, it’s going to produce even less, once you start taking a hormone.
Jonathan Otto: How do you go about helping to resolve these issues?
Dr. Olivia Joseph: I think you... I think this is where testing is very important. I’m a big fan of urinary testing, which is
called a DUTCH test, or salivary hormone testing, because hormones are so unique to that female, to that individual,
that I feel like the testing can give you your roadmap. I do think you have to make sure the adrenal glands are healthy,
because they affect energy, how you deal with stress, sleep, blood sugar, belly fat, all of that.
I think another thing you have to take a good close look at is the thyroid, to make sure the thyroid is functioning, or
you don’t have autoimmunity affecting the thyroid, which is the leading cause of thyroid destruction. So, hormones are
really influenced by cortisol levels, so we have to make sure we keep our cortisol levels healthy. We have to keep our
blood sugar healthy, we have to manage our stress, we have to sleep. Then we have to incorporate some techniques,
to help keep cortisol levels healthy, like meditation, exercise, things like that.
FIBROMYALGIA
Dr. Joel Fuhrman: When a person floods their body with high nutrient food and they moderately caloric restrict, then
their insulin resistance and the hormonal imbalance from PCOS fixes itself and the person becomes healthy again,
they can get rid of it. So yes, it’s something that we effectively treat, as well as fibromyalgia too. These people who have
these spasms and they’re hurting, and the pain, the tenderness, and the weakness of their... It goes away, but it’s this
excellent diet flooding the body with antioxidants and nutrients, at the same time as we do a type of physical massage
on them that pumps their tight muscles and tender spots and trigger points through like a corn cob approach. We want
to do it on the whole muscle that’s tight and inflamed from origin to insertion. And we find that as we soften the muscle,

get the lactic acid out and label nutrients and blood to flow in with a high nutrient diet, the body’s able to repair the
tight muscles and the spasm tissues. And then they start to relax, those trigger points and those sore spots go away.
When you try to do one or the other; go to massage, get physical therapy; without the diet it doesn’t work. When you
try to do it with the diet without the right type of therapy it doesn’t work. You got to do them both together, because
we got to get the nutrients delivered to the tissues that have already contracted and are not letting nutrients get into
them because they’ve already been so contracted down. We put the right pattern of behavior together, and then we
get, obviously, the most beneficial results.
Number one, just to finish on the fibromyalgia thing, the other thing is that you have to do these therapies regularly,
like five times a week. Not once a week, then people don’t get well. So, what I’m saying is in my career I make it possible
for people to make complete recoveries from these diseases that normally would be incurable, unless they had this
type of attention to their problem.
CHRONIC FATIGUE & ESSENTIAL OILS TESTIMONY
Dr. Mariza Snyder: About ten years ago, I started having some pretty crazy symptoms around chronic fatigue. I woke
up one morning after mind you, many years of having symptoms. But I just kept ignoring them because people told
me that it was normal. Like that as a woman, or as a person, running really fast, doing too much, that it was a very
normal thing to be experiencing. Fatigue, mood swings, not able to sleep, feeling wired and tired. Gained a little bit of
weight, having cravings, a lot of the things that happen in the hormone spectrum. I just really didn’t know what was
going on. I’m in practice and I wake up one day after about seven hours of sleep and I couldn’t lift my head up off the
pillow to save my life. It felt like there was this invisible hand just shoving me back into the bed.
I remember thinking, what am I going to do to get up and get out the door today? When I finally got to the bathroom
to brush my teeth, and do all the things to get ready to see my patients, of whom were women older than me, a little
bit older than me who were dealing with the same issues. Absolutely had no idea what was going on with them either.
I remember looking in the mirror and thinking, oh my gosh. If I can’t take care of myself, how am I going to take care of
these women? I had to dig into what was going on there. Remember going to a doctor, running labs, and sure enough.
The labs basically said hormone hot mess. Everything was deregulated. Everything was off balance. I remember when
she gave me her two prescriptions, her two scripts. One was for birth control and one was for Xanax.
I remember looking down at these prescriptions knowing in my gut that this was not the solution. I promised myself
with my research, my background in biochemistry, that I was going to figure out how to get these women well. I was
going to figure out how to get myself well.
CORTISOL — MEMORY
Jonathan Otto: And what are the types of things people can take for brain health to help improve their clarity and
mental focus, memory, improve depression or anxiety symptoms?
Dr. Peter Kan: Well, again, the supplement... The herbs do not treat the symptoms. They’re treating the underlying
cause. Then, you have to understand what’s causing it. If someone has memory issues, then you have to ask is that
memory issue caused by a cortisol problem? If it is, then you can use things like valerian root, passion fruit extract, to
kind of dampen some of that stress response. That’s one way you go about it.
Or is that cortisol response that’s causing memory problem caused by an infection? In that case, you’ve got to do a
colon cleanse. You’ve got to take something that’s antibacterial herbs like garlic or caprylic acid, and things like that to
get rid of the pathogen so that you’re decreasing cortisol and stress on the body.
Memory loss is a symptom, but what’s causing the memory loss. If it’s a gut infection versus metal, then we use chlo-
rella or a liver support... or versus stress. Maybe they just need to meditate and quit stressing and change the priority
in their lives so they’re no longer stressing instead of taking a supplement. Or they may need to do all three of them.
It’s all about just addressing, as root as possible, and if people don’t have resources then they just need to be aware
by watching shows like this, by listening and learning, so that they can become aware of their symptoms and then get
education about where that symptoms produced or how it’s produced, so they’re addressing the mechanism of what’s
producing the symptom instead of, “Oh, this is good for the eye.” But what’s causing the eye problem?
CHRONIC FATIGUE & ESSENTIAL OILS TESTIMONY
Dr. Mariza Snyder: In that journey over the next couple of years, I integrated nutrition, supplementation, and essen-
tial oils. I remember my life before essential oils, and my life after essential oils. It was like night and day. One of the
biggest things that happened to me on my essential oil journey, actually the first particular moment when I knew that
oils were powerful, they were effective, and they were designed to work with our own body’s physiology. A couple
years after I had dealt with my hormones, the one thing that I couldn’t kick was that I was chronically sick. I got flus,
colds, strep throat, and pretty much in rotation anywhere between seven to 11 times a year. Basically, I was sick almost
once a month. I had a good friend of mine who had just been introduced to essential oils who was using them on her
family for the past six months and had amazing success.
From colds and flus, to digestive issues, cuts and scrapes. The kind of everyday emergencies that were popping up. I
remember being on the phone with her and I was sick again with my sore throat. Probably couldn’t really talk that well.
She told me, she’s like, listen. I am so sick and tired of you being sick and tired all the time. I have a blend. I have this
beautiful immune system blend that I’ve been using on my family. I want you to use it. I was like, send me anything. At
this point I’m so desperate. I’m so tired of being sick. I’m so tired of missing my patients. I’m so tired of missing work.
So she sends me the oil and I didn’t even know how to use it. I know that today when I educate about oils, I talk about
delusion, I talk about safety. At that time, I didn’t care. I just wanted to use the oils. I was putting it in my bathtub, I was
diffusing it, I was putting it on topically. I was adding it to my tea. I was using all the ways.
I remember this was October. I don’t remember exact year this was. Seven or eight years ago. Usually around October
is when I would get sick for the first time. Probably in a sequent amount of times in the course of the winter time.
I started using this oil in October and the winter came and went, and I didn’t get sick. Not only that. I didn’t get sick
again until three and a half years later. That woke me up to what was possible. I was like, okay. If these oils can help to
fight colds and flus or whatever environmental impact that I was having, whatever illness, or bacterium, or virus that I
was fighting. What else could they do? Could they help with the digestive system? Could they help with the respiratory
system? Can they help with migraines, and headaches, and sleep issues, and energy, and brain fog? And yes to all of
those things. Then my major core area of work was on women’s hormone health. I was like, okay. If they can do all
of these things, how can they help support women on their hormone journey? That just exploded for me. That has
been my work ever since is leveraging the power of essential oils, helping women to get better, and live their best life.
Jonathan Otto: With diseases such as fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, adrenal fatigue, thyroid disease, memory loss,
hormone malfunction, calcification, etc. being triggered by high stress levels, anxiety and “burned out” adrenals, it’s

amazing that no one has woken up to this so far. Instead, people continue to take medication and self-medicate through
disease symptoms, hoping someday they will get better. Meanwhile, doctors are continuing to increase medications
as the body develops a tolerance for them; until the point that the medications can no longer be safely increased.
Allopathic medicine even offers surgery to have the thyroid removed a completely irreversible decision. Essentially
saying, it’s broken, let just take it out and see if your body can do without it. Then trying to imitate the hormonal re-
sponsibilities of the thyroid gland with medication for life. Yet, never asking the question, if it’s broken, can it be fixed?
Have we done all that we can to understand why it is malfunctioning in the first place?
Though prolonged chronic stress can be very detrimental to our health, is there such a thing as good stress? New
studies have come out to show that we actually need some stress in our lives, but that it has to be positive stress. So
what does this mean exactly? We’re going to listen to Dr. Dean Sherzai explain the truth behind this mystery.
GOOD STRESS IS NECESSARY
Dr. Dean Sherzai: You know what was amazing, out of all the research, the thing that came out, which is a little bit of
a concept that sounds non-scientific, but there’s science behind it, purpose. We say that we have this acronym NEURO,
Nutrition, exercise, unwind, restorative sleep, not just sleep restorative, and optimizing mental activity. At the center
is U, unwind. Unwind is about increasing stress. That sounds counterintuitive, what are you... because the human
consciousness, human awareness, has a limited, a finite real estate. If you fill that space, or if you try to get rid of bad
stress and you don’t manage well, you keep filling it with new stress, that’s never going to go away. The only way you
get rid of bad stress, is to create meaningful good stress.
The brain grows most when it is under stress, a good stress. What is good stress? Good stress is the kind of stress that
challenges you, that’s yours, that’s owned by you, that’s your purpose, it’s time bound, and you can create a series
of successes. The brain needs that. In fact, the number one fuel for the brain, it’s a little metaphoric, it’s not glucose
or oxygen, it’s tension and challenge. A brain that’s not challenged, is the one brain that withers and dies. In fact, the
number one factor that determined decline was not, as much as I would love to say food, is when a person that was
active throughout their life, and then they retired and they didn’t do anything. Their decline was the steepest. I tell
people, don’t retire, or if you’re going to retire, start a new passion because that challenges the brain, that makes sure
that the neurons can act.
Let me tell you what that means. Now, each brain, people compare the brain to a muscle. Incredible disservice to the
brain. The biggest human being you know is three times bigger than the average. Actually not true, but let’s say. You
have 87 billion neurons and a great majority of them can make a few connections, or as many as 30,000 connections
per neuron. That’s beyond the Incredible Hulk. That’s your protection, the non-study, the taxi drivers, like many other
studies that people are aware of, actually eal that, that when you make those connections, how do you make those
connections? Through two ways, one is to exercise. Exercise actually makes those connections, grows the brain. The
bigger way is mental activity, challenging mental activity around your purpose.
Why the purpose and non-purpose? How would the brain know? That limbic system, how you define it. If you take the
same amount of tension, and it’s around your passion and it’s really pushing you, the people that are most protected
are people that work hardest throughout life, but they work hardest around their passion. Your brain says, it’s good,
I like it, I’m enjoying it, it’s stressful, but I’m enjoying it. There a series of successes, then it connects that emotion to
your hypothalamus which connects to the pituitary, and what’s released are the good chemicals. Immune system, met-
abolic process, all that is controlled through pituitary. If it’s bad tension it works on cortisol, adrenaline, inflammatory
processes, your thyroid is thrown off, your growth hormones are thrown off. That’s where it starts, good purpose, a
meaningful life.
Jonathan Otto: Learning about good stress is so essential to really supporting good health and keeping our mind sharp.
Dr. Sherzai talked about some of the ways we can promote good stress hormones, such as purpose and meaning. But
practically speaking what are some things that science has found promote good stress?
Some examples include:
Making changes - learning and adapting to a new routine or situation and make adjustments
Getting to know someone new - either a friend or someone you are romantically interested in or a new business contact
Fitness activities and sports
Working toward a big goal or an event - like having a new baby or getting married
Learning something new - Being willing to start a new sport or hobby where you are a beginner. It takes time and
discipline to learn, but the payoff is a good stress booster
Discipline - Being able to stick with something difficult and overcome the obstacles in order to grow. This includes going
through a difficult trial in your life that you have to overcome. Who knew trials in our life could actually promote health?
Integrity - Doing the right thing. Being able to stand up for what you believe in may be incredibly difficult. This may
mean being honest in a situation where there appears to be a negative result.
Jonathan Otto: Essentially, what appears to constitute good stress is a situation that presents a trial, obstacle or diffi-
culty, but that has a reward or payoff at the end that is perceived as greater than the difficulty. Work may be stressful
to the point that your paycheck isn’t enough of a reward to undo the bad stress feelings. However, if the payoff is praise
from an employer or a promotion or an extra week of paid vacation, that reward feels worth the added effort. But,
also just the endorphins that are released when you accomplish a goal, like learning something new or overcoming
an obstacle, can be a reward in itself. And, as Dr. Sherzai pointed out, having a drive and purpose behind what you’re
doing can also turn that into good stress. For me, I enjoy creating these documentaries, but my passion is really to help
people get well and have a happy, healthy life. So, the motivation of helping others makes it even more rewarding.
What we want to be careful of is that our good stressors don’t become bad stress by beginning to perceive it as a
threat and the fear and dread become overwhelming. Also, having too much of a good stress activity can convert
it into something you see in a negative light and therefore it can become bad stress. Having a positive attitude and
perspective can help to keep stressors in the beneficial category, which is where we want our stressors to stay so we
can maintain our health.
GOOD STRESS IS NECESSARY
Dr. Dean Sherzai: Some of the cases that I see, one case is at the VA where we worked. This gentleman that was working
as a car mechanic about 65 or so and he had significant memory problems and also had some mood disorders and
depression and anxiety. When he was young, he was into cars, building cars, rebuilding cars and all that. The man went
to the military, came out, went and started working for a car mechanic. With this car mechanic he was doing the same
thing over and over again, repeating, and he was hating his work. The pressure was building. His stress was building,
and that was affecting his memory and his thinking significantly to the point that he had mild dementia.

After much conversation, we saw that the one dominant feature was the fact that he hated his job, so we said, “It’s a
good time to retire.” So he retired. He went on his own. We thought we lost him. Six months later he comes back and he
says, “Dean, my life has changed. I’m a completely different person.” We do the exam, the neuropsych and everything
else and no dementia, cognitive, sharp, sharp as ever. This was dementia as a result of the emotional component,
depression, anxiety, and everything else as well as other lifestyle factors.
I said, “So what did you do that changed your life?” You remember, he hated his work as a car mechanic. He said, “I
went home. I started rebuilding cars in my garage.” Wait a second, “You hated the... “ Yeah, but what was different?
The difference was that good stress. This was now his and his terms, his own way of doing things, not just repetitive
behavior. Going back to what he loved as a child to rebuild the car and this ability to do what you want but challeng-
ing because it’s rebuilding a car and doing it for hours at a time and memorizing, recalling, figuring things out, that
completely took out the stress and rebuilt his brain.
It took what was his love, his purpose and him doing it at his own terms and doing it long hours that challenged his
brain, and that helped the good stress overtake the bad stress. Now he’s feeling the kind of stress that he loved and
completely rebuilt his brain. That’s the kind of magic that’s not magical but complex enough and real enough.
Jonathan Otto: So, now we know that there are types of stress that can add to our health and actually prolong our
lives and improve our happiness. So, what do we do with the bad stress? The stress that has been taking over our
society through high-pressure sedentary lifestyles? We want to combat this stress.
I’m sure many of you have heard of meditation and relaxation techniques, but is there more we can do? Things that
will help to cleanse our bodies and reverse these diseases that have been triggered by having high-cortisol levels? Are
there things that are bodies are lacking that could be contributing to the problem? And, more importantly, have there
been people who have actually been able to get well using these methods? Now we’re going to explore these questions
and help you find the answers you’ve been looking for.
WAYS TO COMBAT BAD STRESS & ERASE DISEASE
Dr. Todd Watts: I have a girl that came in to see me four and a half years ago. She was suffering with severe depres-
sion, anxiety, fatigue, 10 years of chronic migraines, fatigue. Couldn’t get off her couch, had no drive or motivation in
life. In fact, you’ve pretty much just hated her life. She wasn’t being able to be the mother she wanted to be. Her kids
knew her as somebody who was very sickly and really wasn’t a part of their life, and I think, Well how difficult is that?
How many people really suffer along with what she suffered with and the journey that she went through over the
course of the last four and a half years, but really it was a shorter period of time that she had major changes come
back. These things that affected her was the fact that she could only eat four foods for two years, meaning that she
wasn’t getting the nutrition and she needed because of the fact that she had anything else besides those four foods.
She would have major headaches, major depression, anxiety and bloating. So much of what happens in your gut health
really affects your brain health. I know many of you have heard of that, but let’s tie that together and what that really
is. In this case, what we see with this girl that was 37 years old is she had parasites. She had made a trip to Mexico on
a cruise, right. Contracted something and then 10 years of suffering after that point in time. what I believe happened
was she contracted a parasite when she was on this cruise that affected the way she felt, the way she digested, the
way she thought. These parasites, not only did that, but they cause chronic pain, abdominal pain, pain in her back, pain
down her legs, and then the migraines daily, the headaches daily. How would you not have depression and anxiety
with a lot of these symptoms.
So what we did for her is we started looking at what can we do for her gut health and get it, getting her to expand
her diet, but being able to get rid of her headaches and stuff. So we did great things. I put her on most políticas seed,
vadanga, clove. There’s a lot of different amazing herbs that can help rid the body of parasites. By doing this, within
two months for her headaches were gone. Within four months, her migraines were gone, and then over the course
of the next year, her severe pain disappeared. All through treating the parasites, her perspective on life has changed.
She became happier. She was able to handle so much more stress will before any little bit of stress with overwhelm
her whole entire body and her being.
The great thing about it is in her story that she came back is now she’s vibrant. She has a job. She’s working into
something she has a passion for her. She’s involved in her children’s lives, she’s able to participate in their activities.
And her husband has her back. What a life changing experience that is, when you can actually fulfill your purpose and
mission by doing that.
SUPPLEMENTS FOR EMOTIONAL HEALTH (ANXIETY & DEPRESSION)
Dr. John Dempster: I think that a formula that covers a lot of the b-vitamins, a lot of the minerals bringing in some of
the botanicals that you can really fill in a lot of cracks with anybody dealing with anxieties and even some depressions.
And often, we consider anxiety and depression one in the same. They’re absolutely not but you can often target and
fill in a lot of real similar foundations that will support people suffering from both of those issues.
Jonathan Otto: What are the core ingredients that you’d use to do that?
Dr. John Dempster: So I really like combining a blend of b-vitamins and the activated forms of b-vitamins when possi-
ble, with a lot of minerals such as zinc and magnesium. I love blending those two groups of compounds with different
botanicals. So if we’re talking about anxiety, I love blending them in with things like chamomile or things like GABA.
These are all great things that we can start to do to just really calm us down. Even things that are going to boost their
serotonin such as 5HDP or St John’s Wort just make sure that if you’re on any pharmaceutical prescription drugs, work
with a properly qualified healthcare professional so that they can tell you can navigate you through this. Those are
just great things to look at.
Jonathan Otto: Fantastic.Thank you. And then people can expect some resolution in those areas because we’re talking
about the issue with a lot of mental function with neurotransmitters, and is it true that a lot of the foods that we’re
eating are deficient in what they are needing to... The core building blocks for our neurotransmitters, and then we
also have the issue with our body’s ability to break down the microbonds compromised so we obviously can’t negate
that. That needs to happen as well, which is why we’re really going after that area, but at the same time we’re fueling
the core building blocks so that our body has those core nutrients that they can convert into the neurotransmitters
which are like serotonin, norepinephrine, gabamine.
Dr. John Dempster: GABA, Dopamine.
Jonathan Otto: GABA.
Dr. John Dempster: Yeah.
Jonathan Otto: Because if anyone is too low or too high, that’s when you start feeling like you’re just on edge or
depressed.
Dr. John Dempster: We want to bring people back into balance, and so as I said earlier, it’s about removing the bad
and putting in the good. If we get the snowplow and clear all the different... I’m Canadian, I like snow. If we can clear

all that debris out of there and then put in the nutrients right behind it, that’s when you’re really going to start to see
and feel more importantly, an impact.
ESSENTIAL OILS, DEPRESSION & NUTRITION
Dr. Daniel Nuzum: When I first learned about essential oils was when I was a kid. Okay? We had this black lab, huge,
huge dog. This dog was the throwback, the runt of the litter, and he was given to my family, and we called him Jack.
Jack was this enormous dog. He weighed I think 147 pounds or something like that, 142 pounds, and his back stood
almost about belt level to me. He was just this humongous, humongous black lab, and he would have panic attacks
anytime there was a thunderstorm. Well, we lived in the Great Lakes area, so every spring we had a couple months of
thunderstorms that Jack would just go bananas, and he’d try to find a place to hide, and there’d been a couple times
that he got under bunk beds with children in the bunk beds and knocked over the bunk beds. He was just trying to
find a place to hide, and he didn’t fit under the bed.
Finally, we’d have to kind of lock him up in the laundry room or something like that to keep him somewhat under
control, and one time my dad came home. He had these things called essential oils, never heard of this before, didn’t
know anything about them. He came home with these essential oils, and that night we had a real bad thunderstorm.
The dog was just going bananas, and Dad got a hold of him, held him down, put lavender oil on the base of his skull
and rubbed it in behind his ears. The dog went over, curled up on the floor, laid down, and went to sleep. I’d never seen
anything like it, and the dog slept all night. It didn’t move. He stayed in that spot all night. It was unbelievable, and this
is the dog, he went from having a panic attack to sleeping and slept all night. Dad put like 10 drops of lavender oil on
the back of his head. That was my first experience with essential oil. I didn’t know anything about them prior to that.
Jonathan Otto: Wow. If it works on an animal like that, that is so impulsive and so scared of thunderstorms, everyone
that’s had a dog or even has friends that have dogs know that that’s exactly what happens when there’s a thunder-
storm with almost every single dog, and so for it to have that kind of dramatic impact makes me wonder what it could
do for people with their stress, and the thunderstorm, half the time the thunderstorm in our life might not be... The
crack of that thunder might be relieving for us, but our thunderstorm is the boss getting angry, the children throwing
a tantrum, hormones going wild.
Dr. Daniel Nuzum: Right, right. Exactly. There’s all kinds of things, and what was interesting is that worked for that
dog his whole entire life. We had him for another four, five years, and anytime there was a thunderstorm, he actually
became my... At the time, I was only 16, 17 years old at the time, and it became the thing that anytime there was a
thunderstorm my little brothers and sisters would go get a bottle of lavender oil, put some drops on Jack’s head, rub
his head, and he’d go lay down. What my point is, is it was consistent. It didn’t just work once. It worked every time
for years with that dog.
STRESS & ESSENTIAL OILS
Dr. Mariza Snyder: The first thing I want to tell people is that essential oils are not hormones, but they can elicit
changes in hormones, kind of like nutrition can elicit changes in hormones. Blueberries aren’t hormones either, but
they can have a profound impact on how our bodies function. I always like to let people know that don’t expect that
a particular essential oil is going to produce estrogen in the body, or produce testosterone in the body. It can really
help in that way. The big thing that I teach women is number one, really listen to their body. What’s going on with you?
Is it that you’re experiencing brain fog or you’re experiencing cravings? Maybe you’re dealing with a lot of stress and
overwhelm. I find that a lot of stress is one of the biggest causes for hormonal imbalance inside of the body.
Getting really clear as to what you’re needing throughout the day, and have those solutions in your purse, or at your
desk when you need them. My biggest thing is telling people to use their oils consistently. The two big ways I tell people
to use oils are really the two easiest ways. Because of all three ways, internal, aromatic, or topical, every single way
is systemic. No matter what, it’s going into the body. It doesn’t have to be internal. It never has to be that way. Some
people have caution around internal usage. By simple breathing in essential oils, they’re going straight to the brain
through the limbic system, and they’re going straight into the lungs to the alveoli. We actually have receptor sites for
olfaction inside of our lungs and other parts of the body. That’s how profound essential oils are always meant to serve
us. Either it’s aromatic by breathing oils in, or it’s going to be topical by applying them to the area of concern. For ex-
ample, let’s say a woman is dealing with PMS and she’s got crazy, crazy menstrual cramps.
Three of my favorite oils for that are going to be clary sage, lavender, and peppermint. You can make up a little roller.
Maybe five drops of each, top it off with a carrier oil of your choice like grape seed oil, or almond oil. Then roll that right
over your uterus and your ovaries. What’s so great about those oils is they’re natural, they’re great muscle relaxers,
and they absolutely work to calm down a lot of what’s going on within our reproductive system. By simple applying
that blend over that area of concern, I would say within 60 seconds to three minutes, those menstrual cramps are
going to be gone. It’s really about listening to the body and knowing what you want. Like before this interview, I knew I
wanted to be firing on all cylinders, so I used the blend that contained rosemary, frankincense, peppermint, and basil.
I know that those oils are phenomenal for boosting brain function, and helping to ensure that I am focused, and that
I am delivering what I want to say. I call it my energy and concentration blend.
SUPPLEMENTS — MUSHROOMS
Dr Sruti Lam: Mushrooms in general have very high Vitamin D. Vitamin D now is actually called a hormone, because
once Vitamin D is absorbed in the body, Vitamin D is essential for a number of activities. Vitamin D is anti-inflammatory.
That means it actually decreases inflammation in our body, decreases our CRP levels, and helps enhance the immune
system. Vitamin D has been shown to be deficient in people suffering with chronic fatigue syndrome or fibromyalgia,
because of lack of going out in the sun, because of more of the blue light, because of screen time they were experi-
encing staying inside closed doors and not eating a well-balanced diet.
Another mushroom that we can talk about is reishi mushroom. Reishi, also called Ganoderma lucidum, has been used
in vast studies for cancer research as well. Reishi is also adaptogenic. Reishi can be taken in very high quantities as
a supplement, or you can start off your morning with Reishi ‘cause it balances out your cortisol hormones that have
been over imbalanced because of different stresses in our lives, inadequate sleep, inadequate rest in our body, and
also deficiency of different nutrients that we have.
Reishi has been helped not only in fatigue, but also for the GI tract. Reishi helps release a lot of digestive enzymes.
It’s a carminative as well, and helps in helping with Candida, and it helps with leaky gut syndrome. Reishi can be sup-
plemented as low as 200 milligrams up to 600 milligrams or higher, depending on how much Reishi your body needs
and how depleted your body has been.
HERBS FOR STRESS
Dr. George Lamourex: I’ve seen all kinds of major transformations with people using herbs. One of the things that
we address a lot especially in our society today is the rampant effect of stress that really causes people to be very
debilitated and almost dysfunctional because they are so overwhelmed by stress. Now we know that stress is actually
something that can be actually helpful to us. Stress is an apoptogenic process. So it’s going to help save our lives in the
good sense, but if stress exists 24/7, then that’s when it gets detrimental. That’s when it starts doing damage to the body.

So you’ve got all those different levels that the herbs are going to work on. For instance, there’s a formula which is
famous, it’s called bupleurum and dragon bone. And, the main ingredient in that formula is bupleurum. I actually did
my dissertation on that formula and I did a clinical trial and we used a standardized stress test and we tested people’s
responses before they started taking the formula and after they started taking the formula and it was a significant
difference in the amount of stress that people were experiencing in their lives by taking that formula.
So, that’s basically how it works. When choosing a formula or choosing an individual herb, for instance, an herb, which
is famous like He Shou Wu. It’s also known as a major longevity tonic. It’s famous for benefiting the hair. But, in general,
what that formula is going to do is it’s going to stimulate the production of blood and it’s going to tonify the blood
and as we know, blood is a substance that nourishes every single cell in the body. It nourishes the skin, it nourishes
the hair, it nourishes everything. So, its function is to actually engender blood in the body and it has all of those other
benefits at the same time.
There are other herbs like ginseng, for instance. Everybody, I think, knows about ginseng, right? It’s an herb that has
a long, long history. Again, it is one of the major longevity tonics that there is. The function of ginseng is to actually
tonify both the digestive system and the respiratory system.
STRESS & ESSENTIAL OILS
Dr. Mariza Snyder: I think an area of focus that I spend a lot of time with people, whether it’s men or women in the
essential oil world is managing stress. I think that there’s some pretty big root causes for disease out there. Perceived
stress and trauma are one of them. A lot of people don’t feel like they have the right tool sets or skills to manage stress.
Sometimes, often we don’t even know that we’re dealing with stress. Stress comes in, in so many different forms.
But specifically, perceived stress, whether you get an Instagram message, or you’re running late to a meeting. I was
running late to this today. I was racing to get here. I had my oils by my side. It’s just been really mindful. Here’s the
thing. We go into sympathetic dominance, which is that fight or flight system. Given that I want to say 50 plus times
a day. Some people even more.
Dr. George Lamourex: Every time you go into that state, your body goes into emergency mode because the number
one core or the number one mode of operation of our body, every single cell in the body, including and especially the
brain, is survival. At the end of the day, if we don’t survive, well then we can’t do the other things. We can’t procreate,
we can’t do all these other things. That is how our body is hardwired. Most particularly, our brain. I find that we can
up regulate that system of overdrive over, and over, and over again. Especially if someone has dealt with trauma or
especially if someone just has a life where they’re running from one thing to the next, and not really paying attention to
their body. One of the things I love to education people about essential oils, is how to actually lower that sympathetic
response, and bring it back down to parasympathetic tone.
What’s really intriguing is that there are certain essential oils, especially grounding and floral oils. Oils like lavender,
clary sage, ylang ylang, bergamot, cedar wood, arborvitae, frankincense, and vetiver have all been researched to
demonstrate that they can actually lower our sympathetic tone and bring us back into parasympathetic. Not only that.
By simple breathing in these oils, those chemical constituents, those secondary metabolites, whether they be acetate,
whatever those constituents are, they go straight into the limbic system because our sense of smell is, I want to say
it’s about 90 times more powerful than any other sense that we have because it’s directly connected to our sense of
survival. The beautiful thing is how essential oils are made is that they were designed to proliferate and go straight
into that part of the brain, and control the way that we respond to stress, to emotional trauma, to mental function,
to cognitive function.
When your body senses or perceives that you are in a survival mode, it’s going to send the cascade of hormones all
the way down from the hypothalamus, to the pituitary, to the adrenals. Then we release cortisol, which is a universal
hormone with receptor sites on every single cell of the body. It brings your body into action. What we want is we want
to lessen that response. A lot of people talk about adrenal fatigue. This is not adrenal fatigue. This is hypothalamic
pituitary over activation. It’s in the brain. It’s the way that we’re understanding this information that’s damaging. It’s
not the messenger. It’s not the adrenals. They’re just doing their job. They’re just like, hey. I got the message. I’m
sending it out. It’s very rarely that our adrenals are burned out. It’s usually that our brain is just overly activated. So by
simply breathing an essential oil like lavender, or bergamot, or a combination of both because those two oils are so
synergistically combined. By just breathing those in, it will literally not only decrease blood pressure, it will lower the
rate of hormones from the pituitary to the adrenals so the adrenals are not receiving that emergency message. Also,
the adrenals will not release cortisol. So serum cortisol drops and our pulse point drops, alongside of that is we go
from sympathetic dominance back to parasympathetic tone all within 60 seconds upon breathing these oils in. You
can literally go from hot mess Tasmanian Devil, back to calm and relaxed in about 60 seconds by simply breathing in
essential oils. I don’t know another powerful tool for reducing stress levels like that than essential oils. You pair it with
conscious deep breathing, and you’ve got a complete success strategy from taking you from one state to the next.
If your consistent with that strategy, especially when you recognize when you’re in a stressed state, you can actually
change the way that your brain responds to stressors in the future.
You change that neuroplasticity by simply breathing in those chemical constituents. To me, that is profound, and
that is powerful. It’s one of the most effective and fast ways that I think we can get ourselves out of a crazed state of
hormone chaos.
ADRENALS — BLOOD SUGAR — HERBS
Dr. Daniel Nuzum: We have metabolic hormones, okay, your adrenal hormones. Your pancreas hormones and your
thyroid hormones are all metabolic hormones and moringa helps to get them operating in concert. So nobody spitting
and sputtering, nobody’s lagging or no one’s going too far ahead of anybody else. So they all work together in concert,
that’s what moringa does.
Then your blood sugar remedy here is an excellent, this is excellent, we have antioxidants, some of the minerals nec-
essary for proper blood sugar metabolism, but then there’s all of these different herbs we have here. We have banaba
root, guggul, bitter melon liquorice, cinnamon again, gymnema sylvestre, yarrow, cayenne, juniper, there we go, sorry,
juniper berry, mulberry extracts, okay.
They have multiple minerals that help vanadium, chromium, zinc, manganese, all these different things that help the
body utilize sugar better. And see, with let’s say, Alzheimer’s or a lot of anxiety, depression, diabetes, especially type
two diabetes. The major problem metabolically behind these is the blood sugar swings, okay?
It’s either going too high or dropping too low. So typically, let’s say anxiety, depression, if the blood sugar goes too
high, it triggers depression. When it drops, it triggers anxiety. And it’s just the peak and valley effect of the blood sugar.
When we can get to that level, it doesn’t peak and cause the depression, it doesn’t volley out and cause anxiety, right?
It just stays nice and level, it’s very helpful. It doesn’t fix the cause of anxiety and depression, but it can reduce one of
the triggers.
SUPPLEMENTS FOR EMOTIONAL MENTAL HEALTH
Jonathan Otto: Let’s say if somebody has resolved their detoxification issue or they’re working on it, and let’s say
they’re working on... for example, if it’s a cortisol issue... the stress reduction which is causing their neurotransmitters

to misfire or be deficient or over productive, right? Because that’s where people feel symptoms of anxiety or depres-
sion, when these numbers are out of balance with these neurotransmitters, right?
But let’s just say people have... either they’re working on or they have resolved these issues, but they still feel some
kind of deficiency in that area, possibly can it be due to the fact that our food sources... We can eat organic food, but
then sometimes people cannot feel the nutrients that they need, perhaps, because of the soil depletion and that type
of thing. Is that true? And in which case, if it is, what are the types of things that people can supplement to just get that
extra... the things that they might be missing to help their brain function?
Dr. Peter Kan: Certainly nutrient depletion is true. There’s tons of study that shows that apples today is not the same
apple four years ago. We know that to be a fact. So it’s a big problem. How do you improve that? Well you can replace,
right? You can take a great quality multivitamin mineral supplement... and there are many on the market... But I will
say on top of replacing the minerals, it’s absorbing the mineral, right? If you’re absorption is improved, then you may
be able to extract what limited amount of nutrient or the decreased nutrient that’s in the existing food.
So work on absorption, but if needed, add more nutrients in by taking some type of supplement. I will say to improve
brain function; typically it depends on what is causing the brain dysfunction. We see thyroid problems. We see leaky
gut. We see autoimmunity. We see inflammation. We see heavy metal toxicity. So, it’s almost a step-by-step process
of working through all those. If somebody has already worked on detox, you might need to go to the next step. “Okay,
what else is there? Have you already done a protocol to support leaky gut?” Okay, you do that. Still having issues? Okay.
“Have you had some tests done to find out if you have an underlying toxicity or infection?”
The point is, if what you’re doing got you better, great. What else is left? Then, you got to do something different per-
haps to attain... to get through that gap... to get that further improvement. Don’t keep doing the same thing over and
over again and expect a different result. You must be willing to adapt and be open to learn new things because there
are new things being discovered all the time about health, about microbiome, about brain function
CHRONIC STRESS & INFLAMMATION
Dr. Dean Sherzai: What does that mean? Well, foods that are whole food plant based, less fat, less animal fats, less
saturated fats, less trans fats, which are processed fats, and less sugar or processed sugar. Then whole food plant
based has all of that. Now, what else reduces inflammation? Exercise. What’s the best drug you have for depression and
anxiety, three times better than any other drug? Exercise. Why is that not being sold? Why is there no, instead of a blue
jellyfish on a late night commercial, we don’t have an exercise commercial for the brain? Because nobody can charge
for it. If you create a nice, fancy commercial, you can charge for that, but you can’t charge for exercise. Chronic stress
is the biggest factor as far as inflammation is concerned and cortisol levels and the biggest factor as far as shrinking
the brain. What’s the answer? Manage stress through good stress. People, who have good stress, challenging the brain
throughout life, actually have much bigger brains.
HERBS IN SUPPLEMENTS — DETOX — ADAPTOGENS
Dr. Rudy Mueller: When it comes to herbs for the brain, precopa and ashwagandha are two of the ones that we utilize
the most. Because it helps with short term and long term memory. Now it does take a while supplementing with these
things to see the results, it can take three, four, five months of supplementing with and on a pretty consistent basis.
But it can be extremely beneficial for brain health and be complementary towards other things, right?
Toward other nutrients or lifestyle strategies that you’re utilizing for brain health.
Jonathan Otto: Excellent. And Dr. Mueller, how do you think that those herbs are effective?
Dr. Rudy Mueller: Well I think that they are decreasing certain stress responses in the body. They’re adaptogenic
herbs, right? And so when we talk about adaptogenic herbs we’re talking about is that the herbs are quote, unquote,
“intelligent” enough to balance the system. If we’re too high, too elevated in stress response it can bring it down to
normal. If we’re too low it can bring it up. And precopa and ashwagandha have been studied the most out of the herbs
that we utilize in our practice as being beneficial for the brain.
So I think it’s this nice balancing approach towards brain health, neurological health that can bring about.
I mean also anxiety, elevated levels of anxiety over a long period of time, can cause these pushes in cortisol, right?
And what cortisol does to the hippocampus which is the area for brain function, is that... Have you heard of insulin
sensitivity or insulin resistance? Right? You’ve heard of that?
Jonathan Otto: Of course.
Dr. Rudy Mueller: Where is the insulin is screaming so loud at the cell that receptors, the ears, kind of shut and pull
back. Can’t hear this, I can’t receive this anymore, it’s toxic, right? Well the same thing is true with cortisol and what it
does to the hippocampus. The hippocampus has cortisol receptors.
So as we’re circulating cortisol and anxiety brings that about, stress response, right? Brings that cortisol level up, up,
up, up, up, up. It causes cortisol deafening of the receptors. And so then the hippocampus will then start to change,
and the hippocampus is important for what? For memory.
So these ashwagandha, precopa, GABA, these things that can help calm that anxiety response if that’s driving from
anxiety. That cortisol response can then help that hippocampus kind of, put it in a place where it can recover with the
right things.
STRESS & ESSENTIAL OILS — DOCTORS AND NURSE STUDY — SURVEY
Dr. Mariza Snyder: It would absolutely access the thought. So rosemary has 1,8-cineole. And 1,8-cineole actually
inhibits the enzyme that breaks down acetylcholine. And acetylcholine in the brain actually boosts memory, boosts
working memory by 80%, and that’s why we see so many rosemary studies in classrooms and in homes with a lot of
people with dementia because it actually raises their ability to remember and to focus, and to get concentration.
So, but there was a hospital, and I’m not remembering the name, I know there’s research that was done at John Hopkins
as well, but the hospital is not coming to me at this moment. It’s in Nashville, Tennessee. But they did a survey with
a bunch of nurses and ER doctors and they surveyed them to see how high their stress levels were in a given day
because they had been complaining that they felt overstressed, overworked and their quality of life had significantly
decreased. And so when they ran this survey and all the doctors in that hospital, in the OR, they ran between a 10
being great quality of life and one being no quality of life. They averaged between one and two, was the quality of life.
They were all really suffering. So then what they did is they brought in these really powerful diffusers, and they were
diffusing wild orange, tangerine and other citrus oils. And they strategically put them all over the OR for the doctors.
Probably for the patients too, coming in. But mostly it was for the doctors and the nurses. And they ran these diffus-
ers, I want to say for about two to three weeks. And they took the survey again, they gave the doctors a survey again
and the scores went from one to two to eight, nine and 10 over time. Because they were diffusing these essential oils.
They were boosting their mood, they were boosting their energy, their cognitive function, and they were just happier
in general when they were in the OR, as you know, can be a very, very stressful place. And it just lowered their stress

levels so tremendously. So one of my favorite studies, it’s just such a great example of how that chemistry, whether
they liked it or not, was changing the way that they felt inside of that situation.
HORMONES AND HEART DISEASE
Dr. Joel Kahn: So I find it incredibly beneficial in the office to use a mixture of herbs. They’re in a class that we call
adaptogens. For some reason, they seem to balance your cortisol and cause you to adapt to stress.But they might
be combinations of ashwagandha. There’s a green tea extract called L-Theanine. These very often are used together.
There might be, I mentioned before, bacopa. There might be some ginseng. It’s a capsule once or twice a day, and it’s
doesn’t sedate. It’s not addictive, and there’s no opioid concern. And you can use them while you’re driving; use them
while you’re working. But it’s amazing how frequent women will say, “I’ve still got the issue. I’ve got my elderly parents.
I’ve got children to rush to sports. I’ve got to cook for the family.” Or, “I have to run the business,” or whatever the
situation is. But they just feel better, and I use these in young women, I use them in 85 year old woman. My mother’s
on a mixture of adaptogenic herbs, and they really, really are helpful.
VITAMINS — ADAPTOGENS — ANXIETY
Dr. Daniel Nuzum: This one, again, we have B vitamins. We have calcium, magnesium, zinc, potassium, in this. What’s
really nice about this one here is all of the, it has a lot of adaptogens. We have rhodiola, lutein, ashwagandha, chamo-
mile, lemon balm, skull cap, hawthorn, bacopa, magnolia. Let’s go through some of these. Rhodiola helps with anxiety
and has a very positive effect on lowering cortisol. Ashwagandha does something really similar and again, what’s nice
with both of these is they in with people with fatigue, it gives them energy. People with anxiety and the jitters, it settles
‘em down, so excellent adaptogens. Lemon balm, skull cap, bacopa, passionflower, valerian, l-theanine, oat straw, St.
John’s Wort, hops, all of these are in the category of adaptogens called nervines. These are all things that settle the
nerves, nourish the nerves, nerves being the jitters. Excellent for reducing anxiety.
This also has GABA, and also 5-HTP and Mucuna. GABA and 5-HTP help working with supporting more serotonin
whereas Mucuna helps to raise dopamine levels, so if we can get both of those to come up, you’re going to feel better.
Your outlook is going to be much better. You have less depression, less anxiety, those types of things.
ADAPTOGENS — ASHWAGANDHA — CORTISOL — STRESS — ADRENALS
Dr. John Dempster: Ashwagandha is one of my favorites. It’s literally a tremendous adaptogen. It helps people deal
with stress. It really helps rejuvenate a dysfunctioning adrenal system. If the word adrenals are new to you, this is
your stress gland. There are two of them. They sit on top of your kidneys. They produce a lot of our stress hormones,
which, go figure. We use a lot of every single day.
If we aren’t filling up the reserves as we’re using them, then this is where we have trouble adapting to all things in life
whether it’s work, or home or whatever it may be. We want to make sure that your adrenal glands are built up and
supported so that you’ve really got the backbone that gets you through everything else that comes at you.
SUPPLEMENTS — TURMERIC
Dr. Sruti Lam: A very common recipe that we use with turmeric is called golden milk, where you can actually use tur-
meric, ginger, and pepper, and you can sweeten it up with either cardamom powder or with cinnamon or dates, and
then make a drink that you can just drink either in the morning or in the evening. Because it decreases inflammation,
it helps with fibromyalgia, any chronic fatigue syndrome. It is anti-tumorigenic, so it helps with cancer. It helps again
with IBD. Any kind of gastric ulcer also, turmeric is very good for it. Any kind of bone pain. So, basically turmeric helps
with everything and any kind of disorder your body has.
And the same with ginger. It’s also a rhizome that is found underground. So, ginger root is very common in all kinds
of cuisines. Ginger root can be eaten just fresh out of it or you can cook it with all your food. Very high dose of ginger
also can be used.
CORTISOL PHASES
Dr. Olivia Joseph: You want to know if your levels are too high, which is what we call Phase 1, high and low, which I’ll
explain, which is phase 2, or low, which is phase 3. Depending on what your cortisol levels are doing that helps you
determine the roadmap on how you want to approach it. So, if your levels are low you can use some great nutrients like
high doses of B6. You can also use like raw adrenal concentrate. That’s great in the early stages of adrenal dysfunction.
FULVIC ACID
Dr. Gabriel Cousens: I’ve spent a lot of time looking into the question of fulvic acid. Now fulvic acid actually greatly,
greatly enhances your absorption of minerals, and there is a certain, I wouldn’t call it herb, but an ooze from the
Himalayas called shilajit, okay? And it’s about taking the power of the mountains okay? And I take shilajit every day,
but the problem is most shilajits are somehow contaminated. I can’t tell you why, and I spent years, I mean since the
70s, trying to find a really good one. I finally have found one, and that’s what we sell on the Tree Of Life website.
But it has your fulvic acid in it, okay? And that’s going to help you absorb all the minerals, it greatly enhances your
ability to absorb minerals. So it’s a very actually important thing, and between fulvic acid and humic acid, you know, it
also helps the soil so the plants can take in things.
But as humans... our humans... The shilajit is the formula, and it has a lot of the fulvic acid in it. So I think it’s actually a
really important thing. It helps plants and humans absorb the micronutrients and the minerals, that’s its main action.
We can’t go too much further in that, but it’s a very big molecule, and for whatever reason, it helps us absorb the mi-
cronutrients and the micro minerals into the system in a very significant way, I’ll put it that way.
ESSENTIAL OILS FOR ADRENAL FATIGUE
Jeff Styba: So for adrenal fatigue, it’s usually high cortisol, high stress, stuck in sympathetic mode. The sympathetic
and parasympathetic nervous system. Sympathetic is fight or flight, parasympathetic is sleep and eat. So your sympa-
thetic nervous system is very wired, and our cortisol levels are really high, and our adrenal glands start to burn out.
And so that’s when you’re stressed out. And the essential oils that you’re going to want to use are the oils that contain
certain molecules that have a calming effect on your nervous system. The essential oil molecules that stimulate the
parasympathetic nervous system and depress, and suppress the sympathetic, and then you’ll start to feel much, much
better, much more calm, much more clear-thinking. You’ll sleep better.
And so from an adrenal energy standpoint, you always want to be using calming essential oils.
Jonathan Otto: Excellent, I love that. And so how would I apply them, which ones, and yeah, how many drops?
Nadine Artemis: Yeah. So I mean there’s so many different calming essential oils. So some of my favorites are Roman
chamomile, lavender obviously. Lavender’s the number one essential oil used in the world, and so lavender’s a great

calming essential oil. There’s... Oh, man, there’s so many. Frankincense is even a calming oil. There’s different types of
blends that have all the common oils. Sandalwood is a great one. But the best way to use them is just put them on...
My favorite way to use them and teach people how to use them is just put them on pulse points. So your wrists, your
neck, the back of your spine, the bottom of your feet if it’s a child or an infant is a great place to use them.
HOST — JONATHAN OTTO — CLOSING
Jonathan Otto: So, here we are, on a journey to understand our health from a whole body perspective. Here we are
suddenly starting to awaken to the comprehension that we can have an incredible impact on our health for the im-
mediate and the long-term. While many of us have learned that stress is bad, have you ever fully comprehended the
extent of allowing yourself to live a life of constant stress?
I’ve often heard people say that they would rather live the way they want and just deal with the health consequences.
But then, for those that are in the midst of suffering through chronic illness, they would do almost anything to escape
it. Chronic illness cripples your entire life, your social life, your family life, your day-to-day activities. It can suck the
enjoyment out of so many of these things. This is why we want to bring this understanding of natural healing to you.
This is why we want to reach out to those who are suffering and those who may be on the way to triggering illness in
their bodies. We want to inspire you with the incredible knowledge to heal your body, with the natural tools to ease
those symptoms that seem irreversible.
We have heard countless stories of patients who have been told that the only options for their condition or illness was
medication or surgery. Are these really the only options? Have we failed as a society to look past the surface manifes-
tation of these illnesses to the deeper causes that can trigger failures within the system? That’s why we want to bring
this docuseries to you. We want you to know that there are more options. That our bodies have been created to heal
themselves, given the right nutrients and tools. Not only this, but the elements of nature, unadulterated by being lab
manipulation, work synergistically with the body to support your own immune system; to bolster your own body in
its healing process.
EPISODE 3
MENTAL CLARITY & BRAIN HEALTH, ALZHEIMER’S,
DEMENTIA, AND KEEPING A YOUNG MIND
Jonathan Otto: Alzheimer’s and dementia is something that most Americans realize may become a reality for them or
for a close family member. It’s an ominous predator creeping up in the background that we all fear as we get older or
as our family members get older. But, up until this point, we have been taught that it is unavoidable and irreversible.
But is this really true? Are many of us inevitably headed to this disease of the mind? According to Alzheimer’s news
today, 44 million people worldwide are living with Alzheimer’s disease or a related form of dementia. They also report
that every 65 seconds, someone in the United States develops Alzheimer’s or dementia. What staggering statistics.
It’s no wonder we feel helpless and overwhelmed when dealing with this crisis. But amazing new science is revealing
that Alzheimer’s and Dementia doesn’t have to be permanent or even inevitable. Not only can we actually reverse the
effects of Alzheimer’s and dementia, but we can avoid ever even developing it in the first place. Imagine being able to
help a family member who is suffering with this disease. Being able to help them turn their life around and to be able
to bring back their mind in a way you never thought possible.
WHAT AND WHY? DEMENTIA
Dr. Dr. Michael Klaper: Well, when I was growing up I had a grandfather who had dementia, this strange malady, and
when I started my medical career 47 years ago, I was aware of dementia but it certainly didn’t occupy the huge space
that it does in the public awareness now. The public is rightfully frightened of going into their advanced decades and
losing their ability to reason and to remember. And so it’s a very frightening thing. It used to be this strange, we don’t
know the cause, and it’s just getting older. But as scientists marched on, it’s become evident that it’s not just getting
older. There are people well over 100 that are bright and sharp and clear, and certainly not demented. So it’s not an
artefact of age. And as we look at all the rest of the diseases in the body, the same basic patterns keep showing up
again. It’s both inflammation happening in the tissues and blood flow certainly has a lot to do with the health of any
organ. When we look in the brain, we’re now finding that there’s often an element of inflammation in depression and
in dementia, and also blood flow.
IMPROVING BRAIN FUNCTION
Dr. Joel Kahn: Of my four grandparents, the most dynamic was my dad’s father, Jack Kahn, Jacob Kahn, and he ran a big
furniture chain. He wore bow ties and pink shirts and had a pink car when I was growing up. He was a giant of a man,
but the last 10 years of his life, just decimated by Alzheimer’s and ended up in a nursing home. I have vivid memories
of the best times as a child with him and then towards the end of his life, just watching a human deteriorate. Very sad,
so on a personal level, I care a lot about brain health.
Jonathan Otto: What was it like seeing your grandfather in that state, where, you know?
Dr. Joel Kahn: It’s so many people are going through it because of the frequency of Alzheimer’s dementia or post-
stroke dementia, multi-infarct, it’s called multi-stroke dementia. It’s terrible. It’s terrible to imagine. the average lifespan
in the United States is 79 years, but actually the health span, the years of your life that you aren’t totally encumbered
with doctor appointments, medications, surgeries, deteriorating health, pain, suffering, Alzheimer’s being one of the

worst, it’s 63 years. And the last 16 years of your life—that’s a sixth, a fifth of your life—is spent dealing with declining
health, pain and suffering. And watching my grandfather really deteriorate to a person just a fraction of what his full
potential was, his full reality was in his younger life, was terrible. I don’t think I’d remember it if it was mild. I remember
it so vividly because it really was just terrible. I so much loved him, and he passed away.
Jonathan Otto: Do you sometimes, perhaps, see your grandfather in some of your patients?
Dr. Joel Kahn: Sure. I deal with really dynamic, driven business owners, entrepreneurs, health professionals and such,
lawyers, accountants, and they are concerned. These people are concerned about burnout; they’re concerned about
their capacity to continue to function. They’re concerned about not having time to really create a lifestyle they know is
probably healthier than the one they’re following. Time to sleep, time to exercise, time to unwind, time to create good
food or find good food. Time to avoid chemical toxins in the environment. They’re concerned about all that, they just
don’t know quite where to turn.
CAUSES OF ALZHEIMER’S — DEMENTIA
Jonathan Otto: Understanding the root cause of dementia and Alzheimer’s is what can allow us to begin to know how
to address it. One key component in many cases is brain inflammation. This is inflammation can be caused by various
culprits. The important thing to understand is that any kind of chronic disease is usually triggered by something that
is actually within our control. Though we may have a genetic predisposition, if we take certain steps to support our
bodies’ immune function and keep ourselves healthy, we can avoid triggering that genetic abnormality and prevent
it from playing out in our lives. Some of these triggers that can ignite inflammation and brain diseases are nutrient
deficiencies, poor nutrient absorption, heavy metal toxicity, and even parasites.
Because of our depleted soils here in America, much of our food is lacking the nutrients we truly need. There are actu-
ally microorganisms in the soil that allow the plant to be able to absorb the nutrients from the soil. However, since we
spray most of our crops with pesticides and herbicides, these chemicals either kill the microorganisms or cause them
to go dormant, which make them unable to facilitate the plant in taking in the nutrients from the soil. And therefore,
the plant ends up even lower in nutrients. Then, on top of that, the foods that we eat have affected our bodies in such
a way that we are not producing enough digestive enzymes and so our foods aren’t breaking down properly so that
our bodies can absorb them. So, depleted soils, poor nutrient absorption for the plant and then poor absorption in
our bodies, can all lead to deficiencies we may not know we even have.
Furthermore, according to a study done in 2003, nutritional deficiencies can cause a higher absorption of heavy metals
into the body. These heavy metals wreak havoc on the immune system and they cross the blood-brain barrier, allowing
damage to the brain. This damage may manifest in the form of Alzheimer’s, dementia, depression, anxiety, OCD, etc.
Parasites also further exacerbate these problems by causing inflammation and more heavy metal toxicity. Parasites can
live anywhere in your body, including your brain. But even a parasite in your guy can actually be affecting the function
of your mind. These parasites also interrupt nutrient absorption. The more nutrients our bodies have, the stronger our
bodies become in being able to fight off these problems. Yet, because we live in this environment and culture where
we are bombarded with chemicals, toxins, and pathogens, our body may need to have a good herb-based protocol
that can help us to deal with all of these issues.
I think the work of Dr. Michael Merzenich is very fascinating in that he doesn’t believe that Alzheimer’s is a disease. He
believes the natural progression of the brain, but it’s supposed to be held off, and then just a really quick decline at
the end and so we don’t even notice it.
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Dr. Dean Sherzai: In a way, we do agree. We think that Alzheimer’s, whenever we give talks, and invariably somebody
asks in the audience, “How do I know if I have Alzheimer’s?” My answer is, “You have Alzheimer’s and your neighbor
has Alzheimer’s and everybody in the audience has Alzheimer’s and I have Alzheimer’s,” because it’s not a point. It’s
a process that starts earlier. Yes, there’s about 3% of Alzheimer’s that is heavily driven by genes. Particular genes—
presenilin 1, presenilin 2, and APP—people who have these genes don’t get the disease, no matter what. But even in
that, we’re about to publish a paper that in APP, which is Down Syndrome individuals, will get the disease if they live
long enough. Even in them, if you control the high blood pressure, cholesterol, and diabetes, guess what happened?
You’ve pushed Alzheimer’s back.
But the other 90-something percent are the kind of genes that have to do with lifestyle. Your body’s response to lipid
metabolism or fat metabolism, your body’s response to immune risk metabolism, your body’s response to vascular,
your body’s ability to get rid of waste. Wait a second. These are not Alzheimer’s genes. These are life genes. So if you
have bad genes for certain things, if you reduce that risk factor, you’re not going to get the disease. If you have bad
lipid metabolism gene, let’s say you have APOE4 from two parents, and the data shows, if you live a kind of life where
you’re having good lipids and you’re not taking bad lipids, your cholesterol’s not high, you actually push the disease
back. So this has to do more with lifestyle and not a lesion or one molecule that causes the disease. It’s much more
complex than that.
Jonathan Otto: Wow. That’s fantastic because I think that one of the things that comes up here with the genetic issue
is that with cancer we’ve seen that the maximum that the genetic factor can influence cancer is a maximum amount
of 5%, and it’s typically like 1 or 2%, and so then, it just leaves people in a situation where there’s no more excuses. We
can see that it’s really down to our choices because we can shift the genetic predisposition we have. It’s not pre-des-
tiny. It’s disposition.
Dr. Dean Sherzai: Absolutely. I mean, there are diseases that are genetically driven. Huntington’s Disease. If a person
has it, if the son, let’s say, has the gene, which is on chromosome 4, and if they have this many repeats of this one
codon, we know when they’re going to get it and how much. But majority of chronic diseases are multigenetic and
have to do more with epigenetics, meaning the environmental influence on genes. Majority of the chronic diseases.
So the sooner we accept that, and then we start worrying less on the gene and more on the environmental factors
that affect the gene. The food, the environmental factors, the air, the pollution, the toxins, and what we do around the
home and life and everything else. It’s not blame. Some people say, “Oh, so by doing this are you blaming the person
that has the disease?” It has nothing to do with that. It’s like saying that somebody who has a heart attack and has high
cholesterol levels, I’m blaming them for that. No. It’s about creating the environment, the habits, and the resources,
so that people can actually live a vibrant life but with the good choice... that they can make the good choices because
of the availability, resources, and everything else.
HEAVY METAL TOXICITY
Dr. Jay Davidson: The main things that’s causing brain issues that we’re seeing right now is chronic toxicity and chronic
infection. Then you could also pile on the fact of just our food supply is very poor right now and our stress level is very
high. We’ve got those factors that are basically going against us. There are certain toxins like heavy metals that love
the brain. We know aluminum loves the brain. We know mercury, and that’s probably the biggest one, loves the brain.
There have been studies where people have had mercury toxicity compared to a normal healthy brain, and you can
see that the brain is basically just shriveled up, that that mercury toxicity has literally caused so much inflammation
that it’s basically killed the brain cells and really brought down that normal function. Looking at all the Alzheimer’s,

dementia, Parkinson’s, just having brain fog. “I can’t think.” “Wait, what did you say? Can you repeat that?” Things like
that. Those are early that our brain isn’t optimized and it’s not functioning.
Dr. Jay Davidson: We need to give a lot of attention to the brain, but as you said, the body is connected, all aspects.
What happens in our digestive tract is going to directly impact our gut. I believe that heavy metals, I believe pesticides;
these are creating inflammation within the body that are then damaging the cell receptors. What do I mean by that?
Our cells will basically produce a molecule or a chemical that gets sent off to trigger another cell to do something. Well
how it does it, it’s got a receptor. It’s like ears. You say something, I hear it. Well, if I put an earplug in there, now it’s
hard for me to hear what you said and you might have to start yelling. You might have to say it multiple times. I’m like,
“Whoa, why is Dr. Davidson not listening to me? Why is he not doing that?” Because I can’t hear. That’s what toxins do.
Toxins are earplugs for ourselves where they start binding onto these receptors or they create inflammation; actually
damage them, now we can’t hear. It’s like maybe it’s actually not a molecule or hormonal problem within our body.
It might actually be a communication; it might be actually a receptor like a listening issue where a body can’t hear.
CAUSES OF DEMENTIA
Jonathan Otto: Now, when it comes to brain health when we look at what’s causing these problems, I’m curious to
see what you think about. What’s the underlying factor here? Because it’s obviously at an all-time high. A lot of people
obviously think it’s genetic, and then these broad brushstrokes on diet, but what specifically in the diet? What’s causing
Alzheimer’s, dementia, and other neurodegenerative diseases?
Dr. John Dempster: Very simply, it comes down to two things. There are things that we need to remove and things
that we need to put in. What we work on with any of our patients is we want to remove anything that causes inflam-
mation. That can be anything from the food that you put on your plate, to the environment you surround yourself
with, to what you put on your skin, and to what emotions you deal with negatively every single day. Those are some
of the obstacles that we really try to help our patients remove.
What we also want to do is we want to start to figure out where are the gaps, where can we start to bring up deficien-
cies, and, most importantly, how to identify if they have them in the first place, because there’s a lot of people out
there right now dealing with Alzheimer’s or dementia or whatever we want to call it, any sort of mental or cognitive
issue. What happens for Mr. Jones might be different for Mr. Smith. We’ve got to look and try to identify as much as
we can the underlying causative issues.
BRAIN HEALTH
Dr. Jay Davidson: So when we’re looking at brain health, toxins get mentioned a lot, right? Mercury and these other
toxins that deposit in the brain. But we have to look at infection. Infection is a massive piece of why people are actu-
ally having brain issues. There has been researchers like Dr. Allen MacDonald, that’s been able to biopsy brains with
Alzheimer’s and been able to grow spirochetes, Lyme disease, in 100% of the studies of that. It’s like okay so Lyme is
in the brain of people that are passed away with Alzheimer’s or with dementia. We have to take notice.
There’s other researchers like Dr. Brian Ballan, has shown that chlamydia and pneumonia, 17 out of 19 autopsies show
that co-infection. We have other people showing different herpes-type viruses in a prevalent amount of people that are
suffering or already passed away with dementia, with Alzheimer’s. It’s like, wait a minute, chronic infection has to be
considered too. I mean chronic infection has to be up on the list, and it makes sense because these chronic infections
can cross the blood-brain barrier. Right? This protective layer that’s not supposed to let things in, certain critters can
get through there. Toxins we know will deposit and get up in there.
CAUSES OF DEMENTIA
Dr. Elena Villaneuva: That’s absolutely true. We totally understand how the different environmental toxins that we’re
being exposed to, and infections, too, they are literally changing how our systemic engines work and how our genetic
engines are working. It’s not the other way around. Our genes don’t make us sick. It’s our environment that changes
our genetic expression that allows us to get sick.
Unknowingly. We’re unknowingly exposing ourselves, and now we have data that we can use. We can actually find if
we are having environmental toxic exposure, and if we’re having a toxic overload, and what chemicals they are. The
testing is out there now. We can actually look at that. And we’re finding really crazy results coming back on people’s
toxin tests and glyphosate tests and their heavy metals test, where we’re seeing high, high levels of toxins that are
known to be endocrine disruptors, that are known to be neurotoxins to cause issues with Alzheimer’s and anxiety and
depression and memory loss and cancers. We’re actually able to look and find those as root causes now. Once we find
that information, then we are empowered to do something about it. That’s where we can go in and start implementing
protocols to help people to detox these super toxic substances out of their body that are literally making them sick.
Dr. Michael Klaper: There’s no substitution for open arteries bringing fresh, oxygenated blood to the brain tissue,
to any tissue. And when people lose their mental abilities, and the pathologists look at the brain, it’s clear that the
arteries are getting clogged up, and inflammation is happening in the tissues. And when they think, “Hmm, what could
be the cause?” You know, it’s probably not a virus. It’s probably not cosmic rays from outer space. In all likelihood, it’s
the food these people have been eating, and again by definition, we’re talking about someone in their 70s, 80s, and
90s. So this is 70 years, 80 years, of a diet, generally in the West, filled with cooked animal protein and dairy protein,
and oils and sugars, and food chemicals. This is a toxic brew to be washing through the brain cells day after day, and
through the arteries throughout the skull. And more and more doctors of every ilk, the neurologists, the pathologists,
radiologists, are all saying that it’s probably how the owner of that brain’s been treating that brain all these years. And
it comes down to the food.
IMPROVING BRAIN FUNCTION & ANTI—AGING
Dr. Joel Fuhrman: We know how to prevent dementia, but people want to still smoke cigarettes and look for a magic
pill not to get lung cancer. They want us to eat pizza and hot dogs, have their white bread, the bagels, and their crois-
sants. They want to still have their fried foods and French fries and not get dementia with a magic pill. Just take this
magic pill derived from this jellyfish or do this and do that.
You can’t poison your brain with these foods and not take in the spectrum of thousands of nutrients the brain needs,
thousands of nutrients the brain needs, saying that twice on purpose, and expect that brain health in your later years.
Your brain’s going to get fried. There’s no way you can undo it. We have the answer, and the answer can be delicious.
And the answer is very effective. And you know, the one here, it takes some while to achieve it until they learn to like
it. But you learn to like it with time.
And lastly here about this brain health, is that living this way takes away your fear. You’re not afraid of getting demented.
You’re not rushing in to get your breasts checked every day because you’re worried about you’re getting cancer. You’re
not worried about getting colon cancer. You’re not fearful of having something strike you down like a heart attack or a
stroke. You’re living your life with joyous abundance and being able to be physically active and mentally active in your
later years without the fear, or being tortured by medical doctors have been putting tubes in the orifices of your body,
running back and forth to emergency rooms and medical offices to constantly have medical care being done to you.

So in other words, when you control your health destiny, your life gets more pleasurable in a host of different ways and
more peaceful. And you become much more productive and much more productive person who can be legitimately
proud of themselves for your positive effect on humanity and your appreciation of the world around you.
When you’re a food addict, and you’re driven by your food addictions, you don’t have any appreciation for the world
around you. You know what I’m saying right now? Let me just give you an example. I’m eating this passion fruit, and
I’m cutting it open, and I’m drinking that liquid out of the passion fruit, and I’m chewing those little seeds in there.
I’m saying, “Isn’t this remarkable? Isn’t this the most amazing, beautiful thing in the world, that this hard shell of the
passion fruit protects all this delicious liquid, the water, the body of this clean water with anticancer phytonutrients in
a form that’s so good for our body?”
In other words, what I’m saying here is that we can really appreciate the blessing of life we’ve been given and the bless-
ings of natural foods that sustain us with the nutrients humans need to protect our health. Our health is protected by
the natural world, and if we can protect the natural world and the foods that nature gives us, then we can protect our
health and have incredible health.
PREVENTION — WHOLE BODY HEALTH
Dr. John Dempster: Our brain is intimately connected to other parts of our body. We’re not an automobile. We don’t
just have separate parts that we focus on. We really want to make sure that we’re connecting the person as a whole.
Our central nervous system, so our brain, has a massive enervation, a massive nerve that goes straight to our gut. The
more that we can support our gut health and our gut efficiency and something called inflammation in our gut, the better
we’re going to be able to improve everything from Alzheimer’s to dementia to bipolar, schizophrenia, go down the list.
Dr. Dean Sherzai: We did a review in Parkinson’s and I did two years of work in Parkinson’s in NIH. In Parkinson’s, there
seems to be a relationship with food, definitely, and toxins, but especially with elements in the food, external elements,
toxins that are involved that people get from environment and its relationship with Parkinson’s. With Alzheimer’s,
multiple things but mostly people come from glucose dysregulation or lipid dysregulation. But inflammation seems
to be the common path in all of them. Later on, they develop inflammation.
So do you see that all these factors that start 20 to 30 to 40 years earlier but then slowly accumulate, accumulate,
accumulate, and then you manifest as a disease. So it wasn’t a point at 65 years of age. It started earlier, and it can be
stopped earlier if we affect those things. Now, genetics have a factor. Remember I said that your genes of response,
inflammation response, vascular response, if you have good genes or bad genes. So if you have good genes, you can
do more harm and not get the disease; or you do a lot of harm and get the disease later. But if you have bad genes,
you get it earlier. So what’s the answer? If we all assume we have vascular risk, we have immune risk, we have meta-
bolic risk, and then you don’t do the things that increase your inflammation. You don’t do the things that increase your
oxidation. You don’t do the things that increase your sugar metabolism or insulin resistance. You don’t do the things
that affect your glucose or lipid dysregulation or lipid metabolism.
What does that mean? Well, foods that are whole food plant based, less fat, less animal fats, less saturated fats, less
trans fats, which are processed fats, and less sugar or processed sugar. Then whole food plant based has all of that.
Now, what else reduces inflammation? Exercise. What’s the best drug you have for depression and anxiety, three times
better than any other drug? Exercise. Why is that not being sold? Why is there no, instead of a blue jellyfish on a late
night commercial, we don’t have an exercise commercial for the brain? Because nobody can charge for it. If you create
a nice, fancy commercial, you can charge for that, but you can’t charge for exercise. Chronic stress is the biggest factor
as far as inflammation is concerned and cortisol levels and the biggest factor as far as shrinking the brain. What’s the
answer? Manage stress through good stress. People, who have good stress, challenging the brain throughout life,
actually have much bigger brains. Do you see, none of these things I can charge for, but these are the real things.
They’re not gimmicks. They’re not bone broth. They’re not Vitamin Concoction. They are real life complex behaviors.
PREVENTION — PLANT — BASED DIET
Dr. Dean Sherzai: Ayesha and I met around the topic because we both had two grandparents each that suffered from
this horrible, and calamity disease, Alzheimer’s. That conversation actually led, after a year, to marriage, and then a
journey.
The idea behind it was, there are a lot of places that have shown evidence where people can live healthfully for long
periods of time without certain diseases such as heart disease, or much less prevalence of these diseases, or cancers,
or diabetes. Could that information, that kind of lifestyle, translate into brain diseases? We chose to come to Loma
Linda, which is the only Blue Zone in US, and one of the only Blue Zones that have been validated through data, major
data. We came here, we were the brain health directors, and Ayesha did a residency in prevention and neurology,
and I was the director of brain health here. We started studying the populations and looking at relationships between
lifestyle and Alzheimer’s and dementia in general. What we found was remarkable.
There was the data that was collected over years. That and this health study, which is a study that’s been collecting
data on 100,000 people for decades now, was incredibly robust. The other thing is the population that’s supposed to
be the healthiest population lived in this region. Actually, a fair number of them, they live everywhere throughout the
world, but Seventh-day Adventists, actually, a large proportion lives in Loma Linda. We have the clinic here, and we
could study and look at the data, and that’s what we did. Over five years we collected data on 3,000 people.
In a region where 50% of the population is vegetarian or plant-based, so you would expect that if this is the major
clinic on dementia that a large proportion of people that came to my clinic, out of 3,000, would be the Seventh-day
Adventists or at least they’re vegetarians because they are well aware of the disease. Awareness and access is not a
problem. This is closest and this is related to a university itself. The numbers we’re seeing were just remarkably low.
What we were seeing is, among the plant-based component of Seventh-day Adventists, the ones that were mostly
plant based and lived a certain life—higher education and more active with the community—the number of people
who developed dementia were nominal. We’re talking a handful. In fact, the number of people, in total, that were
vegetarians and plant-based that had dementia were 19 out of 3,000.
More importantly the ones that were higher educated and also plant-based and were socially active, the numbers
were even lower. That was bewildering.
I looked at this cogent test that’s called CVLT, California Verbal Learning Test, which is a very good test for cognition.
Again, the same kind of data showed up. The ones that were more plant-based had better cognition compared to
the next group which was omnivore. Then, pescatarians to the omnivores. It was almost like a stepwise as far as how
people did with cognition and its relationship with diet.
Jonathan Otto: While what we eat is an essential part of helping our bodies to function at their optimum capacity,
most adults are at a point in their health journey from living in this toxic environment that they need to find herbs
and supplements that can help them create a great internal environment. This will give the body the tools it needs
to undo damage. Many of us are carrying around years of damage to our system and we have no idea. Our livers are
saturated with toxins, our guts are riddled with parasites, our microbiome is damaged which is leading to leaky gut and
all of these things are leading to inflammation in the body, such as the brain. But there are herbs and supplements
that can help your body to produce digestive enzymes, to absorb nutrients, to reduce inflammation, to kill parasites
and flush them out, to get the gut cleaned out and to rebuild the microbiome. With an intimate connection between

the gut and the brain, these steps can be absolutely essential in healing the body. Many people have simply adjusted
their diet, but are still struggling with chronic health issues. Yet, when they take the time to detox their body of heavy
metals and parasites, a sudden transformation takes place. All of good foods they are eating are suddenly able to
work for them in a whole new way. Herbal protocols can be a way of cleansing and resetting the body. All of these
things have a huge impact on the brain and the health of the mind.
DETOXING
Dr. Elena Villanueva: The most effective protocols that you can use are the safest ones. Yeah, this is going to be a
fun conversation.
Jonathan Otto: Are we going to use drugs to do the job?
Dr. Elena Villanueva: Absolutely not. We’re not using drugs.
Jonathan Otto: Why not?
Dr. Elena Villanueva: The drugs are not designed to remove these toxins. The drugs are designed to inhibit the
symptoms that are being caused by the toxins. If you’re just covering up the symptom, then what’s happening? The
problem’s just getting worse underneath. What we’re going to be talking about today is going to be so exciting is we’re
going to be talking about what different herbs and what different natural substances that we can use to help detoxify
the body to help bind to these toxins and to help get them out.
Jonathan Otto: Awesome. Now one big takeaway as well for people is that drugs are going to also add to the toxic load.
Dr. Elena Villanueva: Of course they do. Of course they do.
Jonathan Otto: Yeah, and that’s what we’re trying to combat. Even if, theoretically, there was an ability for a drug to
remove toxins, which is arguable that that even can happen in theory, but even if that is possible, would be adding to
the toxic load as well. Thankfully, we’re not left without tools. Tools have been available, and some of the things we’re
going to discuss as well are not only being used for the last 50 or 100 years, these have been used for thousands of
years.
Dr. Elena Villanueva: Thousands of years, yeah.
Jonathan Otto: Societies and cultures around the world have developed these and passed them down generations
for thousands of years, and it’s not primitive medicine. It’s actually superior medicine. It’s standing on the backs of
giants. Ayurvedic medicine, even Roman medicine, Chinese medicine, Ayurvedic obviously being Indian. Then you have
Native American medicine, and the list just keeps going.
Dr. Elena Villanueva: It’s absolutely amazing, and we need it more than ever now. We’re very, very fortunate that so
many of us have been able to actually look a little bit deeper and go back to some of our roots. We have all of the data
to show that it works, because we can find people that are showing super high toxic load levels on their toxic test. We
can use these different natural substances that we’re getting ready to talk about and we can retest people and we can
see that the levels are coming down. Super, super cool.
Jonathan Otto: Perfect. That’s where we can prove our point. People can see it symptomatically. They can feel the
difference. Whether you’re doing lab work to see that the numbers are going down, or whether you simply feel your
symptoms improve or your major marker is proof that you have the disease, starting to vanish, then you’re in the
right direction, no doubt about it. Then two others that I missed would be ancient Jewish Biblical medicine, and also
Egyptian medicine. So we have lots of ancient legacies that are passing to us, data that is going to be helpful in the
removal of toxins
TURMERIC & BRAIN HEALTH
Ocean Robbins: We talk a lot about turmeric but it is really extraordinary. Now people in India have been eating
turmeric for a long time. The average Indian eats about a half teaspoon a day of turmeric and a lot of people don’t
realize that India has one of the lowest rates of Alzheimer’s on the planet. It’s a tiny, tiny fraction of the rates we have
in the United States. Turmeric could be one of the reasons. Also a lot of Indians eat a plant based diet. Almost half
the population is vegetarian. That could be another reason. Put those two together and you may have some of the
answers to why Alzheimer’s rates are so low in India. Maybe we can learn something from that.
Dr. Ayesha Sherzai: Just a very interesting thing about beans. So in people who have sugar abnormalities or they’re
pre-diabetic, beans are an excellent food for them because the fiber or the complex resistance starches in beans and
lentils actually keep the sugar in the gut. Say for example somebody had a bean burrito in the morning and then they
happened to just have some sweets, say a doughnut, all that sugar actually stays in the gut because the person had
beans. It’s called a second meal effect. Bean has that capacity to keep the sugar in the gut and does not let it go into
the circulation too much. And it regulates blood sugar, which is incredible. So beans are very, very important for having
it at least once or twice a day.
Other things are berries and foods and fruits that are very high in anti-inflammatory compounds. The darker berries
like blackberries and blueberries are packed with polyphenols, which supply the necessary micronutrients for the brain
to heal itself. And there are other vegetables, the cruciferous vegetables. As a matter of fact, there have been studies
on cruciferous vegetables and they tend to be phenomenal for vessel health.
We have arteries all over our body, but our brain actually has the most number of arteries, more than our heart and
our kidneys as well. And it’s the most active organ in the body as well. It consumes 25% of body’s energy at any given
moment. So imagine the circulation of the blood. So whatever you supply it, cruciferous vegetables actually keeps
those arteries open. It makes sure that the arteries don’t harden up, that calcium plaques or cholesterol plaques don’t
deposit in the arteries, and it’s one of the best foods available.
Going into other food products, things like whole grains, of course, we’re all concerned about how wheat has been
modified and there’s always a concern about the chemicals that we’re using as far as agriculture is concerned. So with
that, we have some data that shows that they can be quite harmful. So that’s a gray zone. It hasn’t really been studied
very well as far as brain health is concerned. So whenever there’s a question mark on something or when we’re not
really clear on its efficacy or efficiency, we try to stay away from it.
But as far as other whole grain products are concerned, the ancient grains, they provide the necessary vitamins and
the proteins and the carbohydrates and the fibers that help the brain grow and thrive. And so not focusing on one
food but a combination of all these foods is very important to provide the necessary nutrients for the brain.
What are the ancient grains?
So as far as ancient grains are concerned, quinoa is something that everybody recognizes and kamut is something
that is available. So including those in our meals is something that I focus on.

TOXIN TESTING RESULTS
Jonathan Otto: So let’s have a look at some of the lab work. Let’s have a look at the numbers. What does this mean?
How is it showing up symptomatically for these people, and then we can go into how we can reverse these challenges.
Dr. Elena Villanueva: Yeah, absolutely. This patient here, She’s mid-40s, 45 years old. I just want to show you some of
her symptoms. When she came to us in April, she was having so many of the typical symptoms that people have when
their body is loaded with toxins, so anxiety, depression, a lot of fatigue, mind racing, super bad issues with decreased
memory recall. Her memory was just really, really bad. She felt like she was literally moving into dementia. I’ll say this,
that I have so many clients coming to us who are in their 40s and 50s and early 60s, some of them even in their 60s,
who can barely even form words. They have totally moved right in... They were sliding into dementia very, very quickly,
and it was toxins. Once we got rid of the toxins, they came back just as sharp as we are. Able to carry a full conversation,
totally got their mind back, totally got their energy back, and just functioning really, really well.
A lot of headaches, a lot of body pain. Her entire body was just on fire, and her joints also. She was really, really craving
a lot of sugars. She was having a lot of swelling in her legs.
Jonathan Otto: Help me understand this.
Dr. Elena Villanueva: This symptom here shows when she first started with us, and what her ratings were on her
symptoms. It’s coded with numbers and colors. Ten is the worst, and the goal is to get to zero symptoms. The higher
they are on their number, like eights and nines, it’s going to be more red.
Jonathan Otto: Is this her... She’s writing these down on paper, saying here’s where she’s at with it?
Dr. Elena Villanueva: Yeah. This is an interactive spreadsheet. As she fills it out each time, it will color code it as well.
This one that’s red all the way across, that’s just her weight. She started at 354.
Jonathan Otto: Pounds?
Dr. Elena Villanueva: Yeah. In 90 days, she was down to 323. She had lost about 30 pounds in the first 90 days.
Jonathan Otto: That’s great. Wow.
Dr. Elena Villanueva: Yeah, that’s amazing, and she’s still losing weight. When she came to see us, not only did she
have all these symptoms, but when her initial labs came back, the initial ones, not all the toxin ones yet, but when her
initial labs came back, she had raging Type 2 Diabetes and she didn’t even know it. Right here, if you take a look here,
she was 8.8 for reference range. You want to be less than 5.6 on this marker. If you’re over 5.6, you’ve gone right into
Type 2 Diabetes. Her blood sugar was super high. She was showing on her blood work a lot of patterns of having a
lot of toxic load. Her liver enzymes were high, so they were right here all in yellow. Anything that’s in color is showing
that it’s high or very, very high. She was showing a toxic overload.
This was the 30,000 foot view showing us that she really had some toxic overload. Another sign of the toxic overload
and the massive inflammation she was having was her cholesterol. You could see in her entire cholesterol panel, she
was all in reds and pinks. She was very, very high. Her triglycerides were 413. For reference, you want to be under 150.
She was just having a lot of toxic overload. Once her other labs started to come in, it did show that she had actually
some really high levels of some of the different plastic and petroleum based toxins in her body. That was totally inhib-
iting her metabolic system. Her metabolic system is what? Is going to trickle down to affect her blood sugar and how
she’s regulating her blood sugar. It’s also going to affect her hormones, and it’s going to affect her brain chemistry.
We were able to trace it back. The blood work gave us an overall view of what’s wrong. A lot of inflammation. She looked
like she had toxic overload. Her liver looked like it was really stressed. We found this Type 2 Diabetes that she didn’t
even know she had. But when we started digging deeper, we saw that she had a lot of toxins. We’ve started working with
her. I want to show you one other thing on her blood work that was super significant was her c-reactive protein level,
which was... her c-reactive protein level which was very high. The c-reactive protein level is an inflammatory marker.
It was 19. When we looked at it again, I want to show that four months later, she was down at 1.1. That was amazing.
Even in the western medicine community, if they see a CRP level that’s as high as hers, they would freak out and panic
that she’s going to have a heart attack or a stroke or something because the inflammation is so bad. What we know
is that it’s not just causing an issue with that. That inflammation is in her entire body. Her brain is on fire. Her organs
are on fire. Every single tissue in her body is on fire, and we could see from the toxin test that it was all of these toxins.
We started detoxing her as fast as she could handle it, and she was actually able to handle pretty fast detox. We were
able to bring her CRP level, in four months; we were able to bring it back down pretty much back into range again.
Absolutely incredible.
Jonathan Otto: Awesome. That’s wonderful.
Dr. Elena Villanueva: Yeah, and she’s feeling better too. You can see that on the symptom sheet that her numbers
had gone down quite a bit.
PREVENTION — BRAIN HEALTH LIFESTYLE, MENTAL ACTIVITY, AND MAINTAINING MENTAL AGILITY
Dr. Joel Kahn: There’s only five or six lifestyle factors that you need to focus on to optimize your health. It won’t guar-
antee your health, but optimize your health. Don’t smoke. Get some fitness in, every day. It can be natural fitness like
walking, standing and bending and such or it can be at the gym, more intense. That would be number two. Number
three; eat a lot of fruit and vegetables, whole grains and legumes. That comes out of these studies. Number four,
alcohol in the Harvard Health Study isn’t a no-no, but it’s limited alcohol. It’s less than five drinks a week. Number five;
keep your body weight good. That’s one of the interesting findings in the Harvard School of Public Health. It’s rather
difficult in this country. There’s a measure called the BMI, the body mass index, 20-25, and three-quarters of Americans
are beyond that. They’re overweight or obese.
So, it’s quite unusual, actually, to be an adult and hit your optimal BMI, but in the Harvard School of Public Health
Study, optimal aging, optimal longevity, optimal brain health is favored by that. In fact, there have been more recent
studies, old ones and just recently, the larger your body size the smaller is your brain. Some people... my colleague,
Dr. Daniel Amen, calls it The Dinosaur Syndrome. Big body, small brain, and there’s just brand new data that supports
some other human data that that is a reality, so you favor your brain health by actively working in healthy patterns.
You can lose weight in a variety of very unhealthy ways, but we’re talking about actively working through fitness and
nutrient-dense diets and plants and keeping your weight optimal. Maybe using some calorie restriction or fasting of
various types to keep your weight off.
So, that’s all consistent with optimal brain health out of the Harvard School of Public Health studies. I’ll just say one
more. I mentioned the word “fasting.” There’s a long tradition in religions on fasting, and the Mormons fast, the
Adventists fast, and the Muslims fast, and Jews fast, and Catholics fast or modify their diet around Lent, and all the
rest. But, recently there’s been a real focus on using fasting as a tool in terms of something called water fasting. You
can find some studies that go back even 100 years ago, nothing but water for a period of days, medically supervised.
There are clinics in this country that practice that kind of medicine and I emphasize medically-supervised because you
need to watch blood pressure and vitals and blood sugar and tolerance for all that.

Jonathan Otto: An important thing to note with brain health is, just like the body, the brain has to be exercised to
stay healthy. The more we allow the brain to atrophy and just go about the day-to-day monotony of life, the more
deteriorated it can become. So, on top of supporting the brain nutritionally and cleansing the body, there are exer-
cises we can do specifically to develop the brain. There have been specific methods designed for engaging the brain
to stay active. But also, just being able to keep learning and pushing our minds to expand is a great practice as well.
BRAIN XQ
Jonathan Otto: Dr. Sherzai, I’d like to go into some of the unique discoveries you’ve found when it comes to measuring
and understanding the brain and how people can actually conduct some tests to work out how successful or optimal
their brain is right now, and this brain XQ is what you’ve coined. What is it, why is it relevant?
Dr. Dean Sherzai: We’ve all heard the idea that we only use 10% of the brain. False. We use 100% of the brain, but
probably at 1% efficiency. Then on top of that, what we do as we get older and older and older is the cumulative damage.
I use the analogy of computer hardware software. We create tremendous amount of trauma to the hardware with
bad food, with stress, with sleep deprivation. And all of these things are critical. And then, when it comes to software,
which is the optimizing mental activity, nobody ever in a systematic, organized way works on building brain capacity,
maximizing brain capacity. So that was our interest.
Brain XQ speaks to going beyond the EQ and IQ ideas, the emotional quotient and intelligence quotient, to getting to
the extraordinary capacity of the brain, XQ. And the extraordinary capacity of the brain can be achieved by optimizing
the environment of it, which is nutrition, exercise, stress management, and sleep, and then building on the cognitive
capacity, the software. That’s critical. What we have found, let’s take one of those components.
We talked about nutrition and the importance of nutrition. Nutrition by itself can reduce chance of dementia by 53%,
but that’s just the tip of the iceberg. Good nutrition creates the environment for vibrancy, for growth. Bad nutrition,
which is one meal or two meals, with glucose... That’s what we call the four mechanisms of nutrition: glucose dysreg-
ulation, lipid dysregulation, oxidation, and inflammation. These aren’t separate. They’re all intertwined. But one meal
can significantly affect that. Now, that shouldn’t give you a sense of failure. It’s okay if you have bad meals, but as
long as the trajectory’s towards improvement, we call it working towards increasing the good foods, working towards
eliminating bad foods. That’s nutrition.
But sleep is another one. There’s a reason why we sacrifice our body for eight hours, because those eight hours are
critical. Seven to eight hours are critical. Sleep has two functions. One of the main functions is memory and thought
consolidation. The second component is detoxification. That’s critical. We know that one night’s bad sleep results in
inflammation, oxidative by-products, as well as even things like amyloid, the bad protein that you see in Alzheimer’s,
accumulating. One night’s bad sleep. Whereas good sleep actually does the reverse. So sleep has a profound effect
on the brain and its capacity to restore.
Mental activity, the software building part of that brain XQ is that connection. We’re talking about 30,000 fold increased
capacity, each neuron creating 30,000 connections. When you do that in a systematic way, when we show... where
you work around your weaknesses and your strengths, let’s say that you have difficulty with memory, recall, short-
term memory. There are actual exercises you can do to build that. Not any silly little game on a computer, but more
complex behaviors that actually can build short-term memory, memory of verbal capacity, memory of visual capacity,
and procedural capacity.
Verbal capacity, people think that what I’m born in, that’s it. We know many studies, many people have done it.
Journalists have done it, where they’ve actually won memory count competitions where they could memorize 52
decks of cards. Imagine memorizing 52 decks of cards, and this was not a genius. It was a person that knew tech-
niques. Although techniques seem like short term, but they actually also help long-term so you can build up capacity
to memorize.
Processing speed, processing capacity, you can do that all the time. People have done it. People who play chess, they’re
not all geniuses. They actually learn how to process higher and higher and higher levels of capacity. I’m just giving
you some examples. Same thing with visual-spatial capacity and all these realms of brain capacity can be expanded,
but in a systematic way, not ad hoc, not by luck. That’s what we focus on our patients, besides just the hardware, but
also software.
But one thing that people might be a little disappointed in, there are no gimmicks. It’s the real life activities that really
challenge. One of the things is meditation. For us, meditation does one main thing, or mindfulness, whatever technique
you’re using, is build focus. Focus is the gateway to cognition. Focus is the gateway to higher consciousness. If you
don’t have good focus, forget about building memory. Forget about building processing speed.
As it happens, one of the first things that happen when you get older, your focus centers are affected. But it actually is
exponentially affected in our Western life where we’re multitasking, doing 50 different things. I tell people there’s no
such thing as multitasking. There’s only doing multiple things badly. Doing so, you create more stress, more urgency,
and not really building that focus center of the brain. So you can actually do this in a systematic way, real life way, and
build better capacity. Forget about just avoiding Alzheimer’s, but build brain capacity at any age.
REVERSING ALZHEIMER’S — DEMENTIA — TESTING & IMPROVING BRAIN FUNCTION
Dr. Joel Kahn: Psychiatrists try and treat attention deficit, and depression, and anxiety, and schizophrenia, and they
don’t examine the organs. In my training, and actually in my own personal experience, I’m aware that you can do a
blood flow study of the brain. It has the name Spect. S-P-E-C-T. You have to inject certain chemicals into the intravenous
line, and a patient will be within a machine that detects radioactive emission from the brain called a Spect scan. You
can create an image, very detailed, of the brain, and it’s quite remarkable that there are patterns that develop and
people are trained to read it. You can see signs of previous trauma that, frankly, weren’t expected, childhood injuries
and other things that seem to actually be detected by the Spect brain scan and can lead to altered treatment, altered
therapy. That it’s actually brain disease, it’s not just a mental health issue. It’s a brain physical problem.
There are different patterns of Attention Deficit Disorder, different patterns of anxiety, different patterns of depression.
So a very large database in medical literature how you can use this Spect brain scan to gain further imaging. Probably
the best example... they’ve studied many, many NFL players who, obviously, are subject to brain injury from trauma,
and identified using Spect brain scans various patterns and types of brain trauma.
With time, with therapy, with nutrition, with fitness, with weight loss, with supplements, with herbs and such, can
re-examine them and show that there’s improved appearance. They have a more beautiful brain with time.
BRAIN HEALTH, NATURE, MOODS, NATURAL PRODUCTS, RELATIONSHIPS, DEPRESSION AND

LONGEVITY
Ben Greenfield: There are ways you can test your neurotransmitters, very simple urinary panels out there that you can
do to see what’s going on with your neurotransmitters. There are also panels like an amino acids profile, for example,
that can give you a decent idea of what’s happening with your neurotransmitters.

REVERSING ALZHEIMER’S — DEMENTIA — TREATING WITH NURITION
Jonathan Otto: And what are the types of things people can take for brain health to help improve their clarity and
mental focus, memory, improve depression or anxiety symptoms?
Dr. Peter Kan: Well, again, the supplement... The herbs do not treat the symptoms. They’re treating the underlying
cause. Then, you have to understand what’s causing it. If someone has memory issues, then you have to ask is that
memory issue caused by a cortisol problem. If it is, then you can use things like valerian root, passion fruit extract, to
kind of dampen some of that stress response. That’s one way you go about it.
Or is that cortisol response that’s causing memory problem caused by an infection? In that case, you’ve got to do a
colon cleanse. You’ve got to take something that’s antibacterial herbs like garlic or caprylic acid, and things like that to
get rid of the pathogen so that you’re decreasing cortisol and stress on the body.
Memory loss is a symptom, but what’s causing the memory loss. If it’s a gut infection versus metal, then we use chlo-
rella or a liver support... or versus stress. Maybe they just need to meditate and quit stressing and change the priority
in their lives so they’re no longer stressing instead of taking a supplement. Or they may need to do all three of them.
It’s all about just addressing, as root as possible, and if people don’t have resources then they just need to be aware
by watching shows like this, by listening and learning, so that they can become aware of their symptom and then get
education about where that symptom’s produced or how it’s produced, so they’re addressing the mechanism of what’s
producing the symptom instead of, “Oh, this is good for the eye.” But what’s causing the eye problem?
Jonathan Otto: But let’s just say people have... either they’re working on or they have resolved these issues, but they
still feel some kind of deficiency in that area, possibly can it be due to the fact that our food sources... We can eat or-
ganic food, but then sometimes people cannot feel the nutrients that they need, perhaps, because of the soil depletion
and that type of thing. Is that true? And in which case, if it is, what are the types of things that people can supplement
to just get that extra... the things that they might be missing to help their brain function?
SOIL DEPLETION
John Schott: And to go back to the challenges of the soil and our environment. I think everybody’s magnesium defi-
cient. We all have to have some form of magnesium strategy nowadays.
And the magnesium factor is a very important factor with getting this runaway calcium in our bodies, in an accumula-
tion of calcium. So it is a compounding effect where we see people dealing with back pain, neck pain, head pains and
things like that.
You know, it’s huge. I mean, part of the reason why I got into the whole calcification situation is because again, through-
out some of the studies that I’ve done in working with people with the iridology and hair tissue analysis and things
like that, I noticed that the number one challenge, or the system, so I break things down into systems, you know, what
are your top challenge systems so that we can start going after those and focusing those so that holistically the body
fixes every single system of the body and circulation, where the circulatory system is like the top by far, like 70 to 80%
of my clients have circulatory system as number one challenge system that we need to start to work on.
BRAIN HEALTH
Dr. Peter Kan: Certainly nutrient depletion is true. There’s tons of study that shows that apples today is not the same
apple forty years ago. We know that to be a fact. So it’s a big problem. How do you improve that? Well you can replace,
right? You can take a great quality multivitamin mineral supplement... and there’s many on the market... But I will say
on top of replacing the minerals, it’s absorbing the mineral, right? If you’re absorption is improved, then you may be
able to extract what limited amount of nutrient or the decreased nutrient that’s in the existing food.
So work on absorption, but if needed, add more nutrients in by taking some type of supplement. I will say to improve
brain function; typically it depends on what is causing the brain dysfunction. We see thyroid problems. We see leaky
gut. We see autoimmunity. We see inflammation. We see heavy metal toxicity. So, it’s almost a step-by-step process of
working through all those. If somebody already worked on detox, you might need to go to the next step. Okay, what
else is there? Have you already done a protocol to support leaky gut? Okay, you do that. Still having issues. Okay. Have
you had some tests done to find out if you have an underlying toxicity or infection?
The point is, if what you’re doing got you better, great. What else is left? Then, you got to do something different per-
haps to attain... to get through that gap... to get that further improvement. Don’t keep doing the same thing over and
over again and expect a different result. You must be willing to adapt and be open to learn new things because there
are new things being discovered all the time about health, about microbiome, about brain function.
NUTRIENTS FOR HEALING — SHILAJIT (FULVIC & HUMIC ACID)
John Schott: Shilajit is also very beneficial and I love it because it has 84 trace minerals, or over 84 trace minerals,
which is what’s supposed to be in the soil. A hundred years ago, it maybe wasn’t as much of a concern because the
soil was still healthy and we were more or less still with the practices of treating soil as a living thing.
You know, fast forward to today with the onset of glyphosates, GMO, herbicides, NPK farming, which is very limited in
the way we nourish the soil, with mono cropping, which is not really doing any kind of recycling of the soil, and what’s
moving and living of these ecosystems in the soil.
And our soils are very depleted. They don’t have what the plants need to fully grow and fully give to other organisms,
and its full capacity. So this is where some of these elements like Shilajit come in, or Fulvic minerals come in because
it’s almost like an antidote to that.
IMPROVING BRAIN FUNCTION & ANTI-AGING
Dr. Joel Fuhrman: And of course, they’re especially using herbs when people have emotional problems like anxiety or
depression, can be very helpful, or sleep or insomnia can be useful. What I utilize for people usually with depression
is to fix the fatty acids, extra Omega-3 fatty acids, but also give them a mixture of 5-hydroxytryptophan and saffron
and SAMe. Those three things in conjunction with the fatty acids and usually light therapy, and like you said, exercise.
But a lot of people who are severely depressed just can’t get up and can’t get around to do exercise. We’ve got to get
the depression to lift, and then we can help, they would want to exercise more.
But of course, getting out there in the sun and in warm, especially in the morning is great for them, too. And sometimes
with sleep or anxiety, we give them some L-tryptophan with something like lemon balm and maybe some mixture of
herbs that are a little milder like passion flowers, nettle, skullcap, a few other herbs mixed with maybe a little extra
lemon balm and L-the-... and we also add L-theanine into that too, theanine into that. So it’s lemon balm, theanine,
and L-tryptophan.
So we can use these things because the toxicity or the harm is going to be minimal or none at all, and it’ll help people
avoid the use of medication. And the use of medications definitely have more severe side effects because they can make
people dependent on them, and they can’t get off them, and they have more toxicity and potential risky side effects.

DIFFUSION — ESSENTIAL OILS — MOOD — MINDSET
Dr. Mariza Snyder: Absolutely. I think some of the more controversial areas where we just may not have a breadth of
research and we just have to be a little bit more mindful of are going to be things like pain, are going to be things like
anxiety, and depression. And then also things like insomnia. And these are areas where millions of people around the
world are actually leveraging the power of essential oils for their own personal use and seeing phenomenal results. I
just got a text message from a woman who had anxiety, horrible panic attacks every single day for over five years, had
started to use oils by breathing them in, but also under the tongue. And she’s gone from five kinds of anxiety attacks
a week, to maybe one per month. And how much that’s completely changed the way that she’s function. She can go
out into the world, she can be productive, and she can be social.
And that was just a not possible scenario for her for several years. And that type of testimonial and that type of thing
that you can see in people is just so profound. And I know that she had tried so many other things, you know? To
help get her anxiety and her panic attacks under control. So when it comes to using oils for, whether it’s pain, anxiety
attacks, or maybe even insomnia, there’s a couple of different ways to use them. Probably the most profound way to
use them and the simplest way to use them, especially when it comes to anxiety and to insomnia or the inability to fall
asleep, is by breathing them in. So whether it is a combination of a lavender and Vetiver, and that’s the power combo
that I use on my husband every other night. My husband’s a night owl and there are definitely some nights where we
have to get up early the next day.
And I know that he’s going to be really challenging in the morning if I don’t start diffusing some oil to just knock him
out. So that combination of lavender and Vetiver is powerful. I mean, it’s like a natural sedative. And so, what I will do
is I will do about three to four drops in a diffuser of both oils, put it near his desk and within about 10 minutes he’s
yawning. He can’t keep his eyes open. He basically falls asleep at the desk right there. So when people are dealing
with that wired and tired, or that mental chatter, diffusing oils like clary sage, lavender, Vetiver, cedarwood or Roman
chamomile, any of those five are very powerful and very effective. My two favorites, the two power players are laven-
der and Vetiver. By simply just diffusing those oils over your bedside, like right over your bed on your nightstand, it
will put you to sleep.
And if you’re the kind of person who has no problem falling asleep, but you wake up throughout the night over and
over and over again, just let those oils diffuse over the entire night. So you can get a diffuser that goes on and off for
eight to 10 hours. And what I have seen is even people who deal with night terrors and get up over time, over and
over, and over again, when they diffuse those oils over their bed, they stay asleep throughout the entire night. And I
just love that that’s such a simple solution for people with insomnia. Now, when it comes to anxiety and panic attacks,
that same kind of thing just by breathing those oils in. But I do have people who find that if they take them under the
tongue, and the reason why under the tongue is such a profound way to use essential oils is that it’s very vascular
underneath the tongue.
And so, those oils absorb into the bloodstream very, very quickly and very efficiently. And as you can imagine when
you are getting oils into the bloodstream like that, they become very systemic very quickly. So when people are dealing
with anxiousness, or whether it is panic attacks, if they can use oils like lavender or yarrow palm, or copaiba, copaiba
is one of the most powerful oils I know of for reducing anxiety and panic attacks.
ROSEMARY – MENTAL CLARITY
All right. Let’s continue talking about different herbs. Right here I have rosemary. Rosemary is a very fragrant herb. I
love the smell of rosemary. And if I think about rosemary, it takes me back to school days where during all of our tests,
and our finals, we always walked around with rosemary. Why?
Rosemary’s excellent for mental clarity, and for memory. So, we always had it during our tests. We slept with it. We
woke up with it. It helps with increasing circulation in our brain, and that’s how mental clarity is produced.
BRAIN HEALTH
Dr. Joel Kahn: So, in terms of herbal, there is the famous tree, the ginkgo tree and there is the approach of using a
supplement of ginkgo, ginkgo leaves in a capsule, in a tablet with some idea that it improves brain blood flow and
improves memory and cognition. I don’t think it’s resolved, but there certainly is some data to support the idea that
ginkgo may provide better overall brain health.
In terms of spices, sort of not exactly an herb, we know that the brain can become inflamed. “Inflammaging” or inflam-
mation in aging is a word out there, and brain inflammation is a topic. Inflammation, chemicals and destruction of
tissue by white cells and the whole reaction. So, society said eat a lot of turmeric. Of course, a root vegetable that you
can buy, the whole root in a grocery store, sort of unusual shape and color, but you can slice it and eat it and juice it
and add it into stir fry’s. You can buy turmeric powder. Of course, I always recommend organic sources, but societies
who eat the most turmeric have the best brains. Association. So, these again are association studies. There is actually
a wealth of data about how turmeric actually works in terms of how chemistry and how it alters pathways of inflam-
mation so it’s not just observing societies that are generally traditional turmeric users have the best brain health. It’s
also the biochemistry of turmeric affecting cholesterol for the better, inflammatory pathways for the better. So, that’s
radical stuff.
Blueberries fall... and again, not exactly an herb, but blueberries get a special shout out in the world of fruits for brain
health. A lot of people call them brain berries because of the specific polyphenols and anthocyanins and flavonoids
and these wonderful chemical words, but the innate plant mysterious advantage there is to eating berries, in general,
but blueberries for brain health. Going back to herbs, there’s a wonderful herb from India that probably the public
is somewhat familiar with, and I love the name, ashwagandha. Ashwagandha is often called an adaptogen. It helps
you adapt to stress without being addictive or without being a narcotic like the current crisis out there with opioids.
Ashwagandha can be beneficial for sleep, for stress, for brain health, for blood pressure. It’s just a wonderful thing to
add in. I use it in the elderly. I use it in the young. Sometimes 500 milligrams twice a day, sometimes a little lower if
somebody’s small or elderly.
The same, there’s an herb called bacopa, B-A-C-O-P-A, that often ends up in herbal mixes for brain support, brain health,
and it’s wonderful. It’s from a plant, but there’s some data about what it does to enhance overall brain function and
brain health. Those are some of the biggest ones. There will be more in the list. There’s something called huperzine,
and I like quercetin. Quercetin is an antioxidant herb that can be found in apples, garlic, and onion. There’s a lot of data
right now suggesting it may be one of these magic supplements that may alter aging, may enhance longevity. There’s
a natural cleaning house process in cells that won the Nobel Prize in medicine a few years ago called autophagy, some
people pronounce it auto-phagy. The idea that the garage which you haven’t cleaned out for years at some point gets
so full of junk you can’t even park your car in it anymore, and cells in our body, cells in our brain accumulate debris
with time and they become less functional, and your brain won’t work as well because of this process of progressive
accumulation of debris.
Autophagy is the process of actually repairing, replacing, cleaning out, eliminating damaged cells so you have more
functional cells, and it may be that quercetin, at least preliminary reporting and even more recently, there’s a sub-
stance in strawberries called fisetin, F-I-S-E-T-I-N, that may do the same thing and it’s just amazing, these just come...
You can get them in your foods and not everything has to be a pill or a supplement, but they tend to be studied one
at a time and isolated. It’s just a little easier, though. Whole foods are always what I’d rather somebody do, is just eat

a big bowl of strawberries, blueberries, have salads with onions and garlic and you’re going to get those components
I just mentioned without necessarily having to run to the vitamin shop.
Rosemary. You can’t talk about brain and herbs without mentioning rosemary. Perhaps that’s a spice, but Shakespeare,
500 years ago, talked about memory and rosemary, and subsequent studies show, I think, rosmarinic acid or some
component that’s in rosemary, has quite a direct impact on the brain for better health, so there’s a famous city in
southern Italy, a little bit south of Naples, Acciaroli. Beautiful coastal town south of Naples and they’re famed for lon-
gevity. They’re not officially a Blue Zone so I don’t want to call that out, but longevity, people living in their 90s, good
life, good health, and their food is just rich in the... The local herb, rosemary, grows wildly around there, and I can
remember walking the streets a couple years ago, and really in the vegetable market, you see much more rosemary
than you’d expect. So, a little shout out there, too, whether it’s in essential oil, whether it’s the herb used in soups and
such, whether you just sprinkle it on your food regularly like I tend to do.
BRAIN HEALTH
Jonathan Otto: Got it. Dr. Nuzum, let’s talk about brain health. Brain health is obviously vital because our relationships
are often governed by the quality of how much we’ve protected our brain and fed it with the nutrients that it needs.
Dr.Daniel Nuzum: Well, first off, B vitamins. B vitamins, Vitamin D, are all essential nutrients for the brain, the ner-
vous system. There are adaptogens that work very, very well on the brain. One of my favorites is ashwagandha.
Ashwagandha is a Indian, East Indian herb. It’s one of those that have an interesting effect. If somebody is tired and
fatigued, ashwagandha tends to give them energy, but if somebody has anxiety or is really stressed, it tends to calm
them down. Really, really nice adaptogen that works on the nervous system like that. The other thing that it does is it’s
a neuro-protectant, a brain protector, so when it comes to toxic exposures, when it comes to chemical type exposures
and things like that, it protects against a lot of oxidative damage that would happen from being exposed to different
toxins and things like that. It also helps with buffering head injuries and things like that. That’s another thing for those
playing sports and what not. Very, very good for helping with keeping inflammation down in the nervous system and
things like that. Nice, nice, I love ashwagandha.
Vitamin B-12, but B-12 with again, I like this formula. It’s not just B-12, it’s B-12 with B-complex, and so you’re not just
getting one particular nutrient here. You’re getting the group, the whole band if you will. This formula is nice in that
it’s a sublingual formula, so sublinguals, they’re not a B-12 shot, but you wouldn’t take a B-12 shot everyday ‘cause
it’s too much if you’re taking it on a daily basis, right? Whereas this gets you that little bit, whenever you need it, and
you’re going to take it a couple times a day, all right, which is way better.
B vitamins are water soluble vitamins, meaning you can spike the levels of a water soluble vitamin in your body real
high and it’s cleared out of your system in four to six hours. When you use a sublingual like this, it goes into your
system real quickly and it stays there for four to six hours and you can replenish it. Let’s say you’re a student studying
or you’re a mom dealing with brain fog and you’ve got to keep your family, you need to be sharp, this is a way you can
heighten your sharpness by using these types of things.
Let’s look at this one. This one is a, it’s a multivitamin mineral supplement that’s fortified with different brain nutrients.
Let’s go through these brain nutrients. DMAE, DMAE is, it’s a nice brain enhancement, so it’s kind of one of those, how
do I say? It’s kind of like getting your brain to fire on all cylinders. The misfiring of the brain, it really minimizes when
you’re using DMAE. It’s something that... I’ve used it for studying, myself, in the past. I’ve used it for years at different
times. We have green tea extract. Again, another good antioxidant, but not just an antioxidant, it’s also a neuro-pro-
tectant nutrient.
So we’ve got green tea extract in this. Again, that’s another antioxidant nutrient, but it’s also a very good neuro-pro-
tectant antioxidant, so again, something else that would help protect and anti-oxidize the brain and the central nervous
system.
We have choline inositol. N-acetyl l-tyrosine, an interesting nutrient. Again, helps support brain function by way of
becoming a precursor to dopamine, so it helps, it eventually gets converted into dopamine, so when we increase
the dopamine levels, it also becomes part of tyrosine, becomes part of thyroid hormones. Again, so another thyroid
supporting nutrient here. Bilberry fruit, bilberry, again, good neuro-protectant. Grapefruit seed, I’m sorry, grapeseed,
okay, we got both. Grapefruit seed and grapeseed, both good antioxidants for the brain and neuro-protectant. We
have olive leaf. We got cinnamon bark, licorice root, all again; the thing with these is a lot of these are adaptogens that
also have neuroprotective capacities. Neuroprotective meaning they protect the nerves, protect the brain. They have
an affinity to that tissue.
Phosphatidylserine, phosphatidylserine is excellent for just mental acuity and again, that’s another kind of study aid,
if you will. It also has a real interesting effect on cortisol levels and stress levels, so it helps calm the system and in
response to that, cortisol levels start to drop so you don’t have the jitters and that anxiety and that kind of thing, really,
really helpful. Then Huperzine A. Huperzine A would be a botanical antidepressant. Kind of works along those same
lines as an antidepressant really helps to elevate the mood. Nice formula. That’s a really nice formula. I would say
for overall kind of brain health, neurotransmitter support, something along those lines. That’s kind of what I would
categorize that formula as.
BRAIN HEALTH, OMEGA-3, DHEA, EPA
Dr. Rudy Mueller: So, I think when we’re talking about the immune system and we’re talking about brain health we
have to be considering fatty acids. We have to be considering the fatty acids that are on cells, in cells, under nerves
and DHEA is certainly important for brain health, right?
DHEA is an Omega-3 fat. And the other one is phosphatidylcholine. Phosphatidylcholine makes up the majority of our
cell membrane and so it’s one we have exposures to certain toxins or inflammation or bad fats. They come and they
replace those fats and now we suddenly have a disruption in the ability of the cells to communicate with another.
It’s almost as if you put a block up between the cells and were trying to figure out a way to squirm through them. So
we have to repair the cell membrane in this process and so phosphatidylcholine, DHEA for the brain are phenomenal
fatty acids to be utilizing.
EPA is another one. You often see EPA and DHA combined in a product. That’s phenomenal. EPA can help with de-
creasing the inflammatory response, as well as with DHA but, yeah. So if you’re putting in nutrients for cell health for
brain health, DHA can be a phenomenal thing to be utilizing.
Jonathan Otto: Fantastic. Thank you for that breaks down there, outstanding. I think that people can find these things
that are available and look for good sources of these types of things. And in this case with DHA, it sounds like you’re
looking for a high dosage.
Dr. Rudy Mueller: Yeah, a higher dosage. So you’re looking, once again it really all depends on what a person can
handle but we’ll often start out with anywhere form 500 milligrams upwards of two to three grams of Omega-3 fatty
acids. And it really depends if they’re really inflamed, we might try to push for a little bit higher for a temporary amount
of time.

The thing with Omega-3 fatty acids that you have to be cautious of is if you’re on a blood thinner, if you’re taking
something that thins the blood. There are some studies that show that that can cause further thinning of the blood.
ANTI-AGING
Jonathan Otto: Why don’t you pick out on the supplements that can be helpful? I mean, you can do whatever you
think is some of the core factors there.
Dr. Gabriel Cousens: Okay, the blue green algae, I’ve actually reversed Alzheimer’s just giving people blue green algae.
I published a paper on it. One lady, she couldn’t dress herself, couldn’t exercise, and after four months on this she
was able to dress herself, do exercise, take care of herself. So we can make a difference, that’s what I’m trying to say.
Now, one of the really good things is choline. It’s in the B vitamin range, it’s not B vitamin, but choline is really good,
and it decreases the hyper activation of the glia cells, which inflame the system if you’re eating too much fructose es-
pecially. So different kinds of choline. Now, you need choline to build acetylcholine. What’s that? It’s a major memory
neurotransmitter. That’s what it is. It also helps with GABA, which is anxiety type of thing, so choline is important.
The long-chain Omega-3s, the DHA in particular and the EPA. In my research, when I’m looking at the literature which is
where I say my research, is somewhere around 1200 mg of DHA and about 4-600 mg of EPA gives you kind of an opti-
mal brain protection, anti-inflammation, and improvement of overall brain function and brain cell membrane function.
Vitamin C is a big player. Your full range of the B’s, particularly the B12 and the folic acid, are big players in the story. I
would rate those as a good one. There is a thing called hesperidin and resveratrol, both help a lot... hesperidin is very
good for building up acetylcholine. Those are some of the I’m going to say general... Vitamin C is very important, again,
the full Vitamin C... are critical little pieces here in brain function.
One of the issues we have is aluminum accumulation in the brain, often from vaccines, and there is a chelator that’s
real easy, NCD... it’s not invasive, you don’t take it intravenously... that people take on a regular basis. It’s going to pull
the aluminum and pull the mercury, another inflammatory problem... both of which are in vaccines but we get them
from other places too... to begin to pull the mercury out of the brain and the aluminum out of the brain.
Glutathione is another one. That’s for toxins, but it’s really good...
Jonathan Otto: NAD is your secret for getting the toxins out of the brain, right? NAD?
Dr. Gabriel Cousens: I think there’s more to NAD and new literature’s coming out, but I see it as helping the whole
mitochondrial function as being its primary thing. Remember, mitochondria need 3 to 5,000, not 300. The research
I’m getting is NAD helps build up the mitochondria. There’s another one, it’s CoQ10 PQQ. The PQQ is another one that
builds the mitochondria. The third mitochondria builder is, again, back to the I-, the iodine, the Illumodine. Those are
the three mitochondria builders, and that’s part of really improving brain function in a in a more general way.
There is a supplement called DMAE, which increases acetylcholine, which specifically as neurotransmitter is important
for memory-type things.Choline is a big, big player in decreasing brain inflammation and making acetylcholine, and it’s
also good for gamma-aminobutyric acid, another neurotransmitter that helps decrease anxiety and things like that.
As a supplement, the lithium orotate is okay. I’ve tested myself on all these things.
Dr. Olivia Joseph: So, I think if you’re trying to improve brain function, reduce brain inflammation, or even improve
depression, there’s a lot of data that supports removing gluten from the diet is a must. It’s a must. It is inflammatory
to the brain, to your digestive tract. It can and will affect mood as well, energy, levels of inflammation.
I think there are some core nutrients that you can put in your body. Turmeric is a beautiful anti-inflammatory. Making
sure your Vitamin D levels are healthy. Measuring inflammatory markers like C-reactive protein and homocysteine.
So, speaking of C-reactive protein, the marker of inflammation, causes belly fat, cardiovascular disease, but that type
of inflammation responds beautifully to turmeric.
Turmeric is so good for inflammation; it’s so good for the brain. There is a lot of history to support it, and a lot of
people have gotten amazing results using it. Healthy fats like essential fatty acids that you’re going to get from things
like avocados and if you can get pure wild-caught salmon, and extra- virgin olive oil, like you said, in those Blue Zone
studies, is a staple. What do we do with extra-virgin olive oil? We don’t eat it raw in our salads. We cook with it and
we fry stuff in it and then these oils go rancid, and then they can be harmful to our health. I think some key nutrients
are important. Another one is, folate is very important to the brain, and if you have high homocysteine, your brain is
getting attacked by inflammation. So are your blood vessels. So, I think it’s very important to test homocysteine. If it is
elevated, use the appropriate amount of methyl folate, methyl cobalamine to bring it down. There’s a common gene
mutation called MTHFR that can cause high homocysteine levels. Well, this is going to cause major inflammation in
your brain and increase your risk for stroke, blood clot, as well as dementia.
REVERSING ALZHEIMER’S — DEMENTIA — TREATING WITH LIFESTYLE
Dr. Dean Sherzai: Let me tell you a story. I’ve written about consciousness, human consciousness, the fabric of con-
sciousness is stories, short stories. Not necessarily linguistic, even pictorial stories, but stories none the less. Each of us
develops these stories. The first set of stories that creates who you are is around age three or four where you create
a story of me versus other, then other stories. On one of my rounds in the hospital in Loma Linda, we were rounding
and this one patient, we’ll call them Ms. Collins, that’s not the real name. She had mild dementia, but then developed
an infection and became catatonic. Didn’t talk, didn’t respond, was completely non-responsive, eyes open, but non-re-
sponsive for months. We were rounding and I asked my residents that followed, tell me about her.
They say, “Oh, the sodium is this and potassium is this and chloride is this.” I said, “No, I’m not interested in that. Tell
me about her.” They were a little irked because they wanted to get done quickly. So I said, “Read the charts.” They
read the chart and they go through the list, and around the middle of the chart somebody said that, “Oh, she was a
piano teacher for 60 years.” Okay. “Miss Collins, Miss Collins.” And the resident said, “She doesn’t talk.” “Miss Collins.”
No response. “Miss Collins,” and then, “Who was a better composer, Mozart or Beethoven?” No response. I repeat this
three times. On the fourth time, I say, “Miss Collins, who was a better composer, Mozart or Beethoven?”
Then, a flicker, a connection. A person that hasn’t spoken for months, in a very soft voice, comes back and says, looks
at me, “What a stupid question.” We connected. Why? Her central island was music. Somebody who taught music for
60 years, of course that’s a major island. That’s where the secret is. You connect around islands of consciousness,
islands of meaning, and islands of purpose. When you don’t have those islands or you don’t use those islands, they
disconnect and human consciousness disconnects. We need to connect those islands through meaning, through
purpose, through community, through relationship. That’s not magical. That’s neurological. Meaning and purpose is
at the center of consciousness and awareness and disease prevention.
Jonathan Otto: Dr. Sherzai, what was the end of Miss Collins’ story?

Dr. Dean Sherzai: Miss Collins did very well. She never recovered completely. She went back to her baseline. The way
we did this was then started talking to her about music, put music in the background, the things she liked, her family
came and talked to her about music all the time, and she connected more and more. It’s those connections that cre-
ated further connections. And that’s what we all have to do, not to lose the connections and regain it, but to maintain
those connections, those meaningful connections.
And more importantly, at any age you can create new islands. If you’ve never played music or a musical instrument, but
you always wanted to, start then at any age. If you never knew a second language or a third language, start learning
that. And that creates the connections that will actually create the most resilience, or what we call cognitive reserve.
It’s actually a very important term. Cognitive reserve is the reserve, the bank account you have, against future trauma.
So those connections... An analogy I give is, here’s a piece of information you’re trying to get to. That’s a metaphor,
obviously, and this is you. So I’ve only got connections, two axons, and neural connections. One of them is severed as
a result of trauma, one of them as a result of some vascular event through our life. That piece of information’s gone
because it only had two connections, right? Now make 30,000 connections to that. What happened? Nothing can sever
that. Keep maintaining those connections throughout life; keep making those connections throughout life.
Another thing that shows that evidence of a connection’s importance, people who have hearing loss. Hearing loss
by itself adds 9 to 10% increased risk of Alzheimer’s. Same thing with sight. So what’s the secret, then? Even ambient
noise or just noise in the background keeps those neurons connected. But imagine if it’s conversation, socialization.
That’s much more than just noise.
BRAIN HEALTH, NATURE, MOODS, NATURAL PRODUCTS, RELATIONSHIPS, DEPRESSION AND

LONGEVITY
Ben Greenfield: Loneliness is a growing epidemic. We know this. It is actually now classified as a killer. When people are
not connected to other human beings, and social media does not count, there’s evidence that you do not experience
the same hormonal release, the same pheromone release, the same neurotransmitter release, the same alteration in
the waves of your heart or the waves or your brain, none of that occurs with social media. But when people don’t have
that flesh and blood face to face interaction, a tribe, community, a relationship, a circle of friends, good family life, you
see a lot of issues: high blood pressure, depression, anxiety, lack of sleep or insomnia. Lowered activity immune system,
and these are problems that are now beginning to creep up. And loneliness is actually a growing health epidemic.
So I think that relationships are something that are incredibly synonymous with health and something that, again, tend
to get underemphasized because we feel as though we’re hyper connected, when in reality, our relationship is with a
series of zeros and ones. And there are a lot of things that happen when you’re in the same room with someone, when
you’re making eye contact with them. We know that people have hearts that produce certain electrical rhythms that
align with other people in the same room. We know the same thing can be said for brain waves. We know you can feel
when someone’s stressed out or depressed or an energy vampire, and we know when you can feel that someone’s
happy and in a good mood and their presence lifts you up. And there’s something to be said for that. You simply
cannot, whether via virtual reality and glasses and haptic gloves or your social media app replicate that in any sense.
DEMENTIA, ALZHEIMER’S, BRAIN, BRAIN QX, NEURO: NUTRITION, EXERCISE, UNWIND, RESTORATIVE
SLEEP, OPTIMIZING MENTAL ACTIVITY
Dr. Dean Sherzai: The other component that seems to be of even higher importance, as far as protection for the brain,
is brain activity, cognitive activity. Activities that are more complex, so what is complex? Complexity means activities
that activate multiple areas of your brain at one time. Real-life activities that activate multiple regions of your brain at
the same time.
What kind of activities are we talking about? what stands out is real life activities like learning a new musical instrument,
learning a new song if you already know a musical instrument. Learning a new dance, learning a new language, leading
a project, leading a project around film and video. That involves, it’s not one column of adding number to nine, and
it’s much more complex than that.
Let’s take playing guitar for example. When you’re playing a musical instrument like guitar, your fingers are moving,
that’s your motor cortex. You’re actually reading the notes, that’s your language centers Wernicke’s and Broca’s. You’re
actually being creative, so your right parietal. You’re processing and being creative as far as what steps to take next,
that’s frontal lobe. You’re visually processing, that’s your occipital lobe. You’re emotionally involved, that’s your limbic
system. That’s no Sudoku, that’s a brain on fire, that’s all aspects of the brain. That’s what you mean by brain activity, not
a gimmick that somebody can sell and buy. That’s what people need to do, to bring to their homes. We say to people,
if you really want to develop your brain, it doesn’t have to do with clinic or hospital, those are sick care. Healthcare
and brain care is in your home, your community, and most importantly at your work. What you can do in those realms
can protect your brain, not just against Alzheimer’s, but give you the ability to have vibrant, powerful brains well into
your 80s, 90s and beyond. That’s brain capacity at its fullest.
Community is brain activity. When I’m sitting here in front of you, we’re talking. I have to process what’s coming to
me; I have to read your face. A lot of times it’s passive without us knowing, but actually that’s involving the brain. A lot
of times I have to listen to what you’re saying and contextualize it, that’s three-dimensional thinking, that’s all of the
brain. I have to come up with a response, I have to be sharp, and that’s focus. Remember one of the areas that are
first affected in aging and in disease is focus, that’s all of the brain. Communication is the best brain activity. You don’t
have to buy a game on a computer. Start communicating with a friend. That’s much more cognitive activity.
My mother plays cards. She was a politician; she was a chess player, multi-lingual. Now, she gathers people, she’s 83,
and plays cards at home. That to me is the best form of brain activity. The card game itself challenges the brain, but
then you’re communicating with friends and everybody else, that’s brain activity. Going to church, it’s interacting with
others, reading a scripture, memorizing, recalling, emotionally being involved in it. Remember, emotional memory.
There’s a reason why your limbic system, your emotional system is connected right next to your memory system, es-
pecially short-term memory. There’s a reason why the best way to encode short-term memory into long-term memory
is by emotionally coding. If you’re in an emotional environment with friends, with community, with church, that does
so much more than silly dot on a screen being followed, or adding some columns to nine.
I tell people, get engaged. It doesn’t have to be to church, it could be a community center, it could be volunteering, it
could be leading a project. That’s the highest form of mental activity by far. Most importantly, nobody can charge you
for it.
REVERSING ALZHEIMER’S — DEMENTIA — TREATING FOR TOXINS
Jonathan Otto: Talk to me about the herbs that people can use.
Dr. Olivia Joseph: So, I think the most common one people go to is milk thistle. It’s been around a long time, it’s going
to be around a long time, because it’s effective. Dandelion root is another one that is quite good. Another thing I’ll
mention is N-acetylcysteine, as a precursor to glutathione, and it’s a very, very, important detox pathway. It helps us
to eliminate a significant amount of toxins. So, glutathione is a very important detox pathway.

Another thing is methylation. Methylation is very important. So you can support healthy methylation by eating foods
high in folate, those are going to be your dark leafy greens, those are extremely important. Another thing is eating
cruciferous vegetables, contains something called Indole-3-Carbinol, which helps your body push out toxic estrogens,
which are not a metal, but have been linked to a lot of chronic health problems, hormonal imbalances and cancers. So,
I think that those are some things you can do in your diet, as well as take nutritionally, to help support detoxification.
Jonathan Otto: So, what particular herbs could be used then, to come in and to help remove toxins from the... their
liver, kidneys and even the lymphatic system? What do you know as being effective in those stages of detoxification
and cleansing?
Dr. Olivia Joseph: There are some things found in nature that are very good for detoxification, even just such as pars-
ley, and cilantro, you know? Just something as simple as fresh lemons, have detoxifying powder, apple cider vinegar.
So, I know those are more foods than herbs specifically, you know, the herbs are the things like the milk thistle, the
dandelion, the Methionine, the cystine, Methylfolate, which is technically a vitamin, not an herb. Things of that nature.
Jonathan Otto: Why are they effective?
Dr. Olivia Joseph: Because they’re not all in the same category, but a majority of them push your own detox path-
ways. So you’re not forcing a heavy aggressive detox onto your body. What you’re doing is you’re giving your body the
precursors that it needs to help your detox pathways function more efficiently.
Jonathan Otto: If we were to go to herbs that help with inflammation of the joints, and that type of thing. Where
would you go?
Dr. Olivia Joseph: 100% all day, every day, turmeric. Turmeric, turmeric, turmeric. I don’t want to discredit ginger.
Turmeric and ginger are in the same family.
Jonathan Otto: Yeah.
Dr. Olivia Joseph: The thing with turmeric and ginger is, especially turmeric, is it’s not very bioavailable, so ideally, you
combine it with some type of pepper, like Bioperine, which is black pepper, to help enhance the absorption.
Jonathan Otto: Why is it called Bioperine?
Olivia Joseph: Bioperine is a form of black pepper that is enhanced in a lot of supplements to help enhance their
bioavailability.
Jonathan Otto: And it just maximizes the
Dr. Olivia Joseph: It helps the absorption, yeah.
Jonathan Otto: People say it’s up to 100 or more times the effectiveness.
Dr. Olivia Joseph: Yes, ‘cause turmeric doesn’t absorb well. This is something that is just a fact about turmeric. So,
how can you enhance the absorption of turmeric, if you’re going to take a turmeric supplement? Eat it with a meal
containing fat, and if the supplement doesn’t contain a pepper, you can add pepper to that meal. But ideally, you know,
a supplement would contain those things for you.
Boswellia is so good for inflammation. It’s derived from frankincense. And last but not least, I’m a big fan of black
cumin seed oil, and even using... When you’re essential fatty acid deficient, you’re going to have more inflammation.
REVERSING ALZHEIMER’S — DEMENTIA — TREATING FOR PARASITES
Dr. Jay Davidson: If there’s this blood-brain barrier, Jonathan, that protects things from getting through and these
things actually get through, then how are they going to get out easy. Right? Because it’s not just a protection to keep
things out, it’s protecting things that are in there as well, too. So it can make it more challenging.
That’s why when people come to me and they’re like “Dr. J, I don’t think I have Lyme disease.” I guarantee they have
some type of chronic infection within their body, whether it’s Lyme or not. The important thing is not to wait until you
have a symptom. The important thing is to bring these levels down and to start optimizing the body. Because when
the body isn’t healthy, when the immune system is suppressed, when you have these infections and co-infections,
you’ll develop more and more of them, which is then going to put you at a higher risk of all these other diseases which
seems like Alzheimer and dementia are going to be in that category because of the research we found with these bugs
being extracted from brains of people that passed away with these conditions.
Jonathan Otto: Then what do we do about these chronic infections that are in our body that are affecting our brain
and that are leading to people dying way before their time of these neurodegenerative diseases? What can we do?
Dr. Jay Davidson: Well, we’ve got to clear the infection out. But of course, as soon as you hear like, “oh, infection in
the brain, let’s go after it,” that’s not the first place to start. It’s the mistake that we make with detoxification. Oh, I’ve
got heavy metals? Let’s jump into detox. I did that, and I caused a reaction in my body. I caused a reaction so bad that
I was literally about to go to the emergency room because I was so sick. It’s because I didn’t know to prep before it.
I didn’t get my body ready for it.
So whether we’re looking at the brain or we’re looking at some other part of the body, drainage is so, so important to
prepare the body to get it ready. What does that look like? That is supporting the colon, making sure you’re pooping.
That is supporting the liver bile duct system and also the kidneys. That’s supporting the lymphatic system, which the
lymphatic fluid, the lymphatic system has fluid inside of it, two times the amount of fluid than the cardiovascular
system, two times the amount. When’s the last time we’ve given some attention to our lymphatic system? It’s a huge
focus of our immune system. So if we’re struggling with chronic infection, a lot of our immune system is actually in
the lymphatic system.
But I like to categorize that in the drainage part because we got to make sure that these fluids are moving. If they’re
stagnate, then what happens is our core body temperature drops, these fluids don’t move as well, the pathogens thrive
better and inflammation increases. Movement is life. Not just exercise but also drainage, also lymph.
How does this connect with the brain? The brain has a direct connection. This is new in science, right, as of a couple of
years ago, that our brain has a direct connection to the lymphatic system, meaning our brain drains. Well, if somebody
has brain fog, cognition, headaches, sensitivities, pressure, or something worse than that, like a diagnosed condition
of the brain, I can tell you and almost guarantee brain drainage stinks, that the brain can’t drain. Because when we’re
active, we have cells within our brain called glial cells. These cells, when we’re actually awake and active, will start to
fill up. They’ll actually accumulate fluid. They’ll increase in size. They’ll actually increase like 60% throughout the day.
When we go to bed and when we sleep, that’s when these cells shrink. That’s when our brain drains. So if we never
enter a deep sleep, our brain’s not having a chance to really drain itself.
Now, here’s where it all connects to this, Jonathan. If you’re not pooping, then everything above is backed up including
the liver bile duct, the kidneys, the lymphatic system, and guess what? The brain drainage in the lymphatic system.
There’s a fancy name called glymphatic which just means you’re putting the word glial cell and lymphatic together,
and now we have a fancy named call glymphatic, but just think of it as the brain drain system.

So if you want to say okay, I’m going to focus on brain drainage. I understand how important it is. The first step is making
sure you’re pooping at least two to three times a day. You might say, well, isn’t once enough? If you have health issues,
two to three times a day, not to the point where you’re watery. Focus on the liver bile duct. Focus on the lymphatic
system because once those are open, then the brain can actually drain.
We know there are essential oils such as, like frankincense, or otherwise known as boswellia, that’ll actually help to
open the brain up and brain drain. It’ll actually help to drain the fluid and clear that out. So if you have pressure, you
have a headache, you can put a drop on your hand, put it on your temple across the forehead, rub it across and usually
within 15-20 minutes you feel, typically, better because it’s helped to drain.
The problem is what if your lymph is backed up? What if your liver bile duct’s backed up? What if your colon’s backed
up or any of those? Then the brain has nowhere, really, to drain. So if you’re like, well, this didn’t work for me. Well
because you have to understand that drainage, there’s actually an order. Right? There’s an order of importance. So
we need to work out what’s the base of that funnel? What’s the thing that’s holding you back, if anything, in order to
get the brain to drain?
DEMENTIA
Jonathan Otto: What’s your to do for people that are suffering with brain problems?
Dr. Pam Popper: Well, if you start right now... let’s start at the beginning where you don’t want to have this happen to
you, okay? What’s the recipe for having high cognitive function til you die? The first thing is you eat well, stay hydrated,
and lose weight. Use your brain. You’ve heard “use it or lose it”? It’s true. Exercise. Exercise causes the production of
something called brain derived neurotrophic factor, new pathways in the brain. Learn Spanish. Play a musical instru-
ment. Almost every state in the country has a law that if you’re 60 years old or older, you can attend as many classes
as you want at public universities and community colleges. Now if you want to get a degree, you got to pay, but if you
just want to go learn religions of the world, or my father, for example, when he sold his company, he took horticulture
classes at Ohio State University, earned the equivalent of a master’s degree and worked in the experimental garden.
This is all good stuff to help your brain and to stay actively, cognitively engaged. Social interaction, read books, all that.
Okay, so if you have a family member who’s showing the early signs of dementia, what you do is all that, all right? I’ll
tell you an interesting story that’s a good client story to tell. A friend of mine who happened to be a health care pro-
fessional, her mother moved in with her. Mom was trying to develop some cognitive problem and in fact, it had gotten
so bad that my friend didn’t think her mom should even be involved in the phone call in the beginning. She said, “I’m
not sure she would even pay attention.”
Well when I started asking questions, what had happened was older people are notorious for not eating enough food
because they don’t have schedules. Like I’m on a schedule that tells me it’s time to eat and that sort of thing. They don’t
drink enough water, dehydration is epidemic in the older population, and their life starts to kind of constrict unless
there’s something deliberately going on that keeps them meeting with people and doing things.
So it happened to this woman’s mom, not eating enough, not drinking enough, dehydrated and underfed, and then not
enough engagement socially. We got involved in a church, we fixed the food and water problem and got her involved
in a church where they had people to pick her up and take her to things and got her back interested in even watching
videos on a tablet. Anything that keeps the brain... and you know what was really interesting is in a few weeks, just a
few weeks; this woman started coming back to life. She remained a part of my practice for about another eight years.
She died when she’s 97 or 98 years old, fully cognitively engaged in life. I don’t remember what she died of. At 98,
something goes wrong, you know, but the point was that here is a person who was on her way to warehousing and
came back because it was early stage and did really, really well. It’s amazing just having people to talk to and having
something to do and a place to be.
I’ve seen this in my own dad. He’s 89, he doesn’t take any drugs, and his IQ is higher than his cholesterol right now. In
fact, after my mother died... we experience this in my own family... after my mother died; there was so much to do.
Sell the family house, got to find another place to live, and all kinds of things going on. That kept him busy for a while,
and then my sister and I noticed things were not so good, and the reason was there was nothing to do. So he started
working for her, he started working for me, and we saw such a change in our father from just having thinking to do. At
my office, he was doing stuff that requires a lot of mental effort. Now, he’s not working for either of us because he’s
found other things to do that he likes better, and that’s all good, but at 89, he can take care of himself and he’s physi-
cally really strong and all that sort of thing, and that’s what you hope for in old age. Not being warehoused someplace
because you don’t remember your name or where you live.
Jonathan Otto: Yeah, to have purpose, you know?
Dr. Pam Popper: Yeah. People need purpose in life, it’s very important. It’s an important part of survival for a cancer
patient. If you don’t have a reason to live, you probably won’t.
Well, I’m often asked about withdrawing from medications and I think it’s really important to do this responsibly. I have
a lot of cautionary language in my lectures and that sort of thing. You listen to what I have to say and other people like
me and say, “I never should have been prescribed any of these drugs, they’re all bad, so I’ll stop taking them tomorrow.”
Bad idea. Couple of things. The first thing is some drugs, for example, psychiatric drugs, are very difficult to withdraw
from and you need a withdrawal plan and a team of people. Those are the hardest drugs to withdraw from and really
terrible things can happen if you’re not prepared.
ALZHEIMER’S SUCCESS EXAMPLES
Jonathan Otto: Now we’re approaching this territory where we’re obviously willing to do it, because people’s lives
are at stake.
Jonathan Otto: We’re seeing the results.
Jonathan Otto: What kind of results?
Dr. Rudy Mueller: Results from where... I think the most profound one is, when you’re able to give somebody a piece
that they’ve lost, back. A thing that they are doing, that they want to be able to do, and they haven’t been able to do
it, and you provide these types of clear guidelines, and where they need to go. Then they implement. Right? They take
action and do it, and then we see the results.
We have one person who has been able to drive again. Right? They weren’t able to drive, now they’re able to drive,
they’re able to navigate.
Another woman who their family didn’t want her to watch their grandchildren, so it put this strain on the family, be-
cause she was watching the grandchildren, she was responsible. Then there was an incident that occurred, where one
of the kids got outside of the house, and she didn’t even realize it. Thankfully somebody came home and saw the kid
outside, but that completely ripped away her ability to be alone with the grandkids. And to allow her now, after going
through some of these things, to now be able to see her grandchildren, and then have the family now have the trust

in her to be able to watch those grandchildren, and take care of them appropriately. I mean, that’s what makes our
lives as practitioners. It’s those stories that inspire us to keep going, right, and keep doing.
Jonathan Otto: Brain function is absolutely essential to our lives. Our mind is who we are. Without it, we lose our
relationships, our ability to take care of ourselves, our ability to have joy and purpose. No one wants to live in a state
of feeling lost and confused, of being unsure if they can trust their thoughts. Even just the early stages of Alzheimer’s
and dementia, can be incredibly difficult and painful for all involved. It’s sad that we live in a society that tells us that
this is our inevitable fate. We don’t have to accept that. We don’t have to sit by and watch our loved ones lose their
memories and their hope. We can do something. We can make a difference in our lives or those around us in order
to reverse and prevent these illnesses of the mind. Even if the medical establishments and the media won’t shout this
from the rooftops, we need to. In this series, we truly want to show you that there is hope. In all of these situations
that seem so hopeless by the standard of what most Americans know to be true, there is still an answer. There is still
hope. Transformation is possible.
EPISODE 4
HORMONES & FERTILITY, THYROID
Jonathan Otto: Hormones are chemicals that are naturally produced by the glands in our endocrine system, essentially
telling the organs what to do and when to do it. They have play an important role in many of our bodily functions, like
growth, metabolism, regulating body temperature, hunger, moods, thirst, sleep and sex drive. Some other glands in
our body produce hormones such as insulin - helping regulate blood sugar levels, control our calcium levels, produce
melatonin-which helps us sleep, are associated with calorie burning and controlling our heart rate and produce tes-
tosterone and estrogen - needed for reproduction.
Infertility is more common than most think. According to a CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) study
updated in April of this year, about 10% of women (6.1 million), in the United States encounter difficulties when trying
to have a baby. These numbers are very different from what they were even 20 years ago and are expected to rise still
further. It has been estimated that by 2025 close to 10 million couples will struggle with infertility issues.
Stress, parasites, diet, environmental influences and medications are amongst some of the known triggers for hormone
related issues and conditions. Even a small imbalance in hormone levels can cause serious effects and diseases can
develop throughout the body, affecting our quality of life.
In this episode you will learn about the causes, discover the preventative and healing methods our doctors have shared
and hear the success stories of many who had been suffering too.
DR. RAQUEL YARROCH: PERSONAL TESTIMONY
Dr. Raquel Yarroch: Well, mine’s been quite the journey. Back when I was a teen as I was kind of talking about a little
bit earlier with you, I had some like gut issues, but I just kind of ignored it a lot, and I would just kind of do different
things to kind of take care of it. Then, as time went on and you into college and you have even more stuff is in your life,
I started having other health issues, being extremely fatigued and tired and not- and losing hair and my skin drying
and just different things, but when I would talk to the doctor, they were just like, you’re depressed, and you would
get medications for depression.
And then, I was talking to another person and I like this sounds like a thyroid issues, so I went and had my thyroid
tested and I had a thyroid issue. So I talked to the doctor and like, you know, is there something that I can do like, is
there a food I can do, a food that I shouldn’t eat or food that I should eat? How can I treat this naturally? You know,
how can I help my own self-heal? Like there’s nothing you can do, you have to take this drug.
DR. JUSTIN AND DR. COURTNEY MOSELEY: PERSONAL TESTIMONY
Dr. Courtney Moseley: First of all, I had terrible periods my entire life. At that time, we just thought, “Hey, my mom
had terrible periods. You’re just going to have terrible periods,” so we didn’t get it checked in any way. Then, later on, I
started to... I’m a chiropractor. I started to learn more about PCOS and certain symptoms and started digging deeper
into why I was having such terrible periods. Also, too, I thought about, “Oh, my gosh! I could be having kids later. I
should start to figure out what’s going on,” so I had PCOS.

Jonathan Otto: Which is?
Dr. Courtney Moseley: Which is polycystic ovary syndrome. Once I started researching it and then also talking to my
friends, I figured out that a lot of us have the same symptoms and they probably had the same thing. Just simply by
talking to people, I found out how common it was.
Jonathan Otto: Okay, so you had this very early in life, so you’ve never known anything different than these horrible
pains, I guess. Did you think it was normal?
Dr. Courtney Moseley: Yeah, because my family had it and, at that time, I was 14, 15 years old, and that ‘whatever
you’re told’, you know, whatever you’re told, you start to believe. I just thought that I would have the same things that
some of my aunts and my mom had.
Dr. Justin Moseley: So she was almost every cycle, nine out of ten pain. I watched her suffer for years, like get up at
three, four in the morning and just sit in the bathtub, because the heat of the tub was the only thing that would give
her a bit of relief.
As a husband, it’s hard. It’s hard to watch your wife suffer, and it makes us feel powerless not being able to help her,
because I want to do anything I can to get her out of pain. It’s one of the hardest things as a husband to watch your
wife be in pain.
But for her, I mean, every cycle... she’s had cysts rupture. She’s in such intense pain where she’s almost blacked out.
And multiple times, she’s telling me, “You may have to take me to the emergency room.” Like, it got that bad.
DR. MICHELLE SANDS: PERSONAL TESTIMONY
Dr. Michelle Sands: And then my other experience going to the doctor was when I was 11. I had really painful periods,
and so my mom brought me to a doctor and they put me on birth control pills. And that in and of itself wasn’t the bad
thing, but the bad thing was that my mom made me swear to secrecy because she told me how embarrassing it was
for her 11 year old daughter to be on birth control pills. So that made me actually feel like there was something wrong
with me, that I had to be on this shameful pill for all these years. So I was only 11, so I wasn’t sexually active or even
thinking about boys at that time really. So it just kind of made me feel like again, there was something wrong with me.
But I was on those birth control pills for all those years, and many years after this appointment I had with the doctor.
So I go to the doctor, and he ran a bunch of blood tests. I didn’t really know what they were running. I just went and I
did the blood tests. They didn’t really ask me a lot of questions. They just asked me what was wrong, and I told them
a bunch of my symptoms, and they said, “Okay, we’ll run some tests, and we’ll call you.”
So, it was like a week went by, and I wasn’t really thinking of anything. I was in school, so I was just doing my school,
going to track practice. And we got the call from the doctor to go in for an appointment, so I went in, and they doctor
just sat me down and said, “Oh, the good news, there’s nothing really wrong with you, there’s nothing wrong with your
digestion. There’s nothing wrong with.” And I’m like, “Wait a minute. There’s nothing wrong with my digestion? I have a
giant thing of Tums on my dorm room counter, and I feel horrible after every meal.” And he said, “Don’t worry, there’s
nothing wrong. The only thing that’s really wrong is,” and he stopped.
And he said, “You know, you’re not planning to have children, are you?” And I was only 20. So I’m like, “Well, not right
now I’m not planning to have kids.” He’s like, “Well, having a child just isn’t in the cards for you.” That was the words
he told me. And I was shocked. I didn’t know what to say. So I said, “What do you mean?” He’s like, “Well, your ovaries
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just aren’t working. They’re just not going to work anymore.” And so he said basically you’re never going to be able to
have kids.
And I just walked out. I didn’t say anything. I just went home. I didn’t tell anybody at the time. I didn’t tell my friends,
I didn’t tell my mom. And I just kind of didn’t know what to do with it. Because at the time that he said it, I was 20, so
I wasn’t planning to have a child then. But ever since I was a child, a little girl, I would have baby dolls. And I always
thought of the day that I’d be a mom. And so, it really hurt me inside, but I tried not to let that feeling come to frui-
tion. I just tried to think about everything else. But every year, when Mother’s Day would roll around, there would be
a whole week of commercials, like Hallmark commercials, and DJs on the radio, and everybody talking about moms
loving their children. And that whole week, I would have to avoid any store, any restaurant, any radio, so I didn’t have
to see those Mother’s Day ads because it would cause so much pain.
Jonathan Otto: “What do you see as one of the greatest health challenges or conditions that women face these days,
in the different life phases, such as pre children age, pregnancy phase, postpartum phase, and later life stages?
Dr. Olivia Joseph: Mm-hmm (affirmative). I think hormonal imbalances will follow you decade to decade, right? But
what we’re told is, either “It’s in your head, or take this, or let’s name it and blame it.” So when you’re a teenager, you’ll
call it PMS, and then you’ll get to your 20’s, and during that decade, we may call it PCOS, endometriosis, fibroids, or
even infertility.
Then you get to your 30’s, maybe you’ve had children, and you’re told, “Oh, you’re just tired, you just don’t feel well,
because you’re running around after small children.” Then you hit your 40’s, and it’s perimenopause, or “Oh, it’s age.
You’re just gaining weight because of your age.” Then you’re 50, and it’s menopause. When if you get a good history
on somebody, you see these hormonal imbalances have been there for decades. Decades.
WOMEN’S HEALTH – ESTROGEN DOMINANCE
John Schott: But, talking about women, a lot of times there’s a lot of estrogen dominance. I notice it again, going
back to the calcification in the body, as fibrosis that forms in the reproductive organs and the lining of the uterus, and
things like that. So it’s extremely common to see that nowadays, where women are dealing with cysts, fibrosis in the
uterus, and they’re having fertility issues. Their cycles are very... either very challenging or completely out of line, and
all of that has a lot to do with these things that we’ve been talking about, but also the hormonal factors because of the
mismatch with the circadian rhythms. Now, there are other factors that we’ve talked about as far as the environment.
So plastics, xenoestrogens that are naturally coming, glyphosate or genetically modified chemicals and things like that.
All those things are huge factors into why we’re seeing such a high incidence of let’s say estrogen dominance, inflam-
matory markers when it comes to hormonal function with women, fertility issues, reproductive challenges, and overall
just mood imbalances as well, because this affects our brain function as well. I notice that, believe it or not, with all
the stuff that we’ve been talking about, the body work and the fascia, I notice that a lot with my clients. I also see it
with the signals that come through the iris in the reproductive organ tissues. So I see a lot of wear and tear signals
basically from the iris.
INFERTILITY
Dr. Leigh Erin Connealy: And that’s why I always educate people, I give lectures on this all over, because it’s so un-
derestimated. Because without hormones, you can’t wake up in the morning.

For example, let’s say you have a thyroid problem. What does your thyroid do? Sits here, in your neck. It’s the battery
to every cell in your body, literally, the battery. Well, does something ever work without a battery? No. Your technology
wouldn’t work without the battery, right? Well, you literally wouldn’t wake up if you don’t have your thyroid. So we can
be partially compromised by having low thyroid, right? But you still feel the same, you feel almost dead.
For example, your adrenals, your adrenal glands. They’re little glands that sit on top of your kidneys like little hats.
They make over 100 hormones. They’re your stress, immune, and longevity gland. And if you don’t have them, let’s say
I said, okay, I’m going to take... do surgery, we’re going to take them out. You wouldn’t wake up. Literally, you would
not wake up. That’s how important.
So, doctors are not trained to treat a hypo-functioning, or a low functioning, or an over-functioning gland. And it’s
not talked about. And then doctors dismiss patients when they come in and they have an anxiety disorder, or they’re
depressed, or they’re tired, or they can’t sleep, or they can’t think straight, or they have ADD. Well, you better look at
the matrix. This is the basic matrix of the physiology of the body that all doctors learn, and this is where you start.
HORMONE — RELATED ILLNESSES
Jonathan Otto: According to recent research studies, as many as one in seven couples trying to have a baby, experi-
ence infertility. Both women and men can be experiencing hormonal issues that cause infertility.
And although age and genetics can be one of the catalysts for these issues, scientists are finding that these are not
the only relevant factors. Toxin exposure, foods and medication and their effects on hormone levels in the body may
also be rendering couples sterile.
Polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS) is a hormonal related condition which interferes with a woman’s normal ovula-
tion. Treating hypothyroidism is imperative to addressing fertility issues. The thyroid gland is affected by fluctuations
in estrogen and progesterone, hormones that are essential to normal reproductive function and when the thyroid
gland doesn’t produce enough of certain important hormones this may interfere with ovulation and impact the ability
for a couple to conceive.
There are a high percentage of people live with a mutation of the MTHFR gene which is responsible for appropriate
levels of homocysteine. Homocysteine is important in preventing chronic diseases. Several hormones modulate these
levels. When levels are too high, our bodies are at an increased risk for coronary artery disease, stroke, Alzheimer’s
and autism. Additionally synthetic nutrients essentially activate the MTHFR, increase inflammation in the body and
contributing to fertility complications.
As you may know, Lori and I were unable to conceive but after implementing the techniques the doctors will be shar-
ing in these interviews, we conquered our infertility issues. And we couldn’t be more thankful we did, we now have
a beautiful son whom we love so deeply, who teaches us incredible things every day and we couldn’t be happier. We
know there are a lot of couples out there who have tried everything to share in that joy and want nothing more than
to start a family of their own. This is the reason why we have sought out answers to share with you today.
INFERTILITY
Jonathan Otto: Do you think everybody’s aware of what the role of hormones in our body is?
Dr. Leigh Erin Connealy: No, it is the most underestimated study of any person. It’s interesting because my patients
come to me and they go, “Oh, my gosh, the difference in how I feel is dramatically different.”

The reason why I love hormones is, I was born in the 50s, and I was number three of six children. My mother started
bleeding when she was pregnant with me. And they said, “Oh, well, we have to give you some medication to prevent
this bleeding and prevent you losing the baby.” So, my mother took a drug called DES, Diethylstilbestrol. It was a very
potent estrogen.
As a result of that, I had every hormonal problem that you could possibly imagine because I never had two periods in
a row in my life. So I was forced to learn, regardless of medical school or not, I was forced to learn about hormones.
Dr. Michelle Sands: And it was like the third year of this, right after Mother’s Day. I just decided like, I’m going to have
a kid. There’s something wrong and I’m going to figure out what it is. Because I really didn’t have any answers. I didn’t
understand about the endocrine system or about hormones at the time. I just had what this doctor told me.
And I didn’t have the tools at that time, so I was in the marketing department, I was in communications. I wanted to be
an advertising agent. So that was the side of school that I was in. But I started to go over to the biology department, the
medical department, and I started talking to some of the professors that taught Eastern medicine and acupuncture,
and then some of the professors that taught regular chemistry and biochemistry. And I kept asking like had they ever
heard of this? Is there any time that someone’s ovaries are broken and they became unbroken?
And there were a few Eastern medicine doctors, or not doctors, but professors, who said, “Well, you know, the body
can heal itself.” And once I heard that, I was like, “Wait, the body can heal itself so there’s hope.”
And I spent a lot of years going down that path of fixing my hormones because I understood that the hormones were
necessary for fertility, right? And that the ovaries produce hormones.
And so, I kind of got one step forward and two steps back. A lot of these things didn’t help my digestion. They helped
my energy. But nothing was really moving the needle to the point where I was having normal periods, to the point that
I felt like my hormones were actually changing, or that I would be able to have a baby.
And I still had all these other issues. I had the gut issues. I had some thyroid issues. And I was like I need more, some-
thing has to give. And so, I was talking with all these different practitioners, and I decided I was going to go back to
school myself. And I was going to figure this out. At least, if I couldn’t figure out the fertility, I was at least going to figure
out everything else. I was going to heal my gut, I was going to fix my skin, I was going to deal with my thyroid, and I
was just going to be healthier. And I just wanted to be unbroken. I just didn’t want to be sick anymore.
MTHFR MUTATION
Jonathan Otto: If you have the MTHFR mutation
Dr. Olivia Joseph: Yes.
Jonathan Otto: Which is very common
Jonathan Otto: And what kind of percentage do you see it in the public?
Dr. Olivia Joseph: Right, I’ve seen different data, but I’m going to just say 60% is the average, of different studies that
I’ve seen.

Jonathan Otto: Got it.
Dr. Olivia Joseph: I’ve seen some studies say as low as 40%, and I’ve seen some as high as 70%.
Dr. Olivia Joseph: So, I’m going to say about 60%. It is very common, and it’s a mutation that’s been around for a
long time. But the issue is, is we started introducing synthetic nutrients, that’s where we got into trouble with MTHFR.
Jonathan Otto: Makes sense, because I’m somebody that believes that generally, because of what we understand
about epigenetics.
Jonathan Otto: Whatever problem that we had genetically
Dr. Olivia Joseph: Sure, sure.
Jonathan Otto: It’s the fact that we turned it on.
Dr. Olivia Joseph: Yes, and we turned it on with synthetic nutrients. When a woman is trying to get pregnant, most
of them are given folic acid, prescription folic acid which is a synthetic nutrient which can make homocysteine levels
rise, can make inflammation worse, and can make MTHFR worse.
Jonathan Otto: Okay, and so then what’s the way to reverse this problem?
Dr. Olivia Joseph: So what you would do is you would monitor somebody’s homocysteine levels but you would give
that person enough methylfolate to help their body methylate properly, and then that’s ultimately going to reduce the
likelihood if you do become pregnant of your baby having a neural tube defect like spina bifida, cleft palate, things of
that nature or even miscarriage.
Jonathan Otto: Yes, got it. And hopefully if the MTHFR gene or their issue with that problem was causing the infertility,
if somebody did what you’re talking about, could it resolve the infertility?
Dr. Olivia Joseph: Absolutely.
Jonathan Otto: They could
PCOS (POLYCYSTIC OVARY SYNDROME) — FAT CELLS AND ESTROGEN
Dr. Joel Fuhrman: I just want to state that right off the bat. It’s very, very important that women to know. Polycystic
ovary syndrome goes away on a nutritarian diet. Almost all chronic disease has a similar foundation of high reactive
oxygen species, ROS, and high deposition of advanced glycation end products. They’re toxic to the ovaries, are toxic
to all the cells in our bodies, and make you more diabetic prone. Women in particular because they naturally have
more body fat than men do, right?
A man could be muscular, BMI could be 24 23, not too bad. You have a woman whose BMI is 23 or 24 and her per-
centage of body fat is going to go over 30%, her body fat. What I’m saying right now is that fat cells produce estrogen.
Fat cells are lipotoxic. Extra fat, there’s no such thing as a healthy overweight person. Fat cells make you unhealthy.
They produce toxic substances, including estrogen and angiogenesis promoters. Angiogenesis means they promote

cells to replicate. They secure their own development. Angiogenesis allows blood vessels to grow and fuel, to feed the
fat with more oxygen and more nutrients. A lot of natural plant foods like mushrooms and onions and greens and
berries, are anti angiogenic
They’re anti fat storage effects, and they’re anti estrogenic. Like pomegranates and mushrooms have aromatase in-
hibitors in them. They’re natural aromatase inhibitors, which means they prevent excess breast stimulation and they
prevent the fat cells from producing too much estrogen. What I’m saying right now is your diet controls your hormones
and these hormones control your health. They upset your adrenal gland, your adrenal access, your estrogen/proges-
terone ratios, your estrogen/testosterone ratios, how much estrogen stimulation you get in body tissue, how much
reproduction and growth that’s going on, including promotion of tumors and cysts on your ovaries. MTHFR mutation
CYSTS
Jonathan Otto: Thanks for your huge heart you work with. Oh yeah, Lori’s last question was women’s health. How
often do you see it? How much do you have come up on your plate?
Dr. Olivia Joseph: That’s a majority of the people that I work with is women’s health at every age and decade because
honestly, when I see them come to me in perimenopause, their issues really, if you get a good history, possibly started
around puberty. So it takes doing the right testing, but that’s a majority of my practice. That’s how I found... I say
that’s how thyroid found me because I found there were so many people out there, so many practitioners out there
that actually knew so little about the thyroid, I just sat and studied it for years and years and years and then I started
studying the autoimmune connection and Hashimoto’s and you have to realize that’s all related to hormone health.
So that is a majority of what I do and who I serve.
Jonathan Otto: And you’ve said that, and who you serve, and now you’ve said that, prevalence. Are women being
affected more than men with certain conditions?
Jonathan Otto: And why is that?
Dr. Olivia Joseph: Because for the thyroid for example, our thyroid is sensitive to certain hormones, right? Our thyroid
is sensitive to influxes with progesterone and estrogen, so sometimes those hormones block our thyroid receptor
sites. Another reason is women are caregivers, right, so we’re very prone to take care of everybody around us, let
our problems continue to deteriorate, and then they’re bad enough when we choose to take care of ourselves. That’s
another reason.
MENOPAUSE
Jonathan Otto: Endometriosis and menopause, anything to share on those two?
Dr. Olivia Joseph: Yeah, I would like to mention menopause first. So endometriosis is an issue. Menopause is not.
Menopause is a natural physiologic response. So as women, our uterus and ovaries have one purpose, bearing chil-
dren. That is not a lifetime process. It doesn’t turn on until we go through puberty and it is meant to turn off when we
go through menopause.
Do you realize that some languages in the world do not even have a word for hot flash? It’s not in their vocabulary
because they realize that going through puberty, having a period, being pregnant, and then going through menopause,
that’s natural physiology. So it’s not a problem or an ailment.

Endometriosis is different. Endometriosis does need to be looked at closely because oftentimes it’s due to an estrogen
dominance which can then lead to a hormone positive cancer, so that’s one you definitely want to approach a little
bit more aggressively.
ENDOMETRIOSIS — FIBROIDS
Dr. Olivia Joseph: With endometriosis and fibroids, generally what you are approaching with... someone with, is they
have estrogen dominance. So it means, either their progesterone levels are too low, or they’re not detoxifying estrogen
properly. You have to get that person detoxifying estrogen properly, because they could have a hysterectomy, but they
can still develop a hormone-positive cancer later in life, because you didn’t deal with the estrogen dominance, which
is really at the root cause of those two.
PCOS — INFERTILITY
Dr. Joel Fuhrman: I gave the example of my wife, but my wife was not an overweight PCOS patient, she was a normal
weight PCOS patient. But most people with polycystic ovary syndrome are overweight. And it goes away just with weight
loss, because it’s one of the factors from angiogenesis and IGF-1 promotion. In other words, the body weight and the
poor diet lead to hormones that favor the growth of cysts on the ovaries and upset your estrogen balance that make
you infertile. So, all these things happen together.
When a person floods their body with high nutrient food and they moderately caloric restrict, then their insulin resis-
tance and the hormonal imbalance from PCOS fixes itself and the person becomes healthy again, they can get rid of
it, and they can become fertile just like my wife. So yes, it’s something that we effectively treat.
Dr. Michelle Sands: And so, I started going to school for naturopathic medicine. Well actually I started going to school
just for medicine, just for regular medicine, and so I did my pre-med, and then I did my first year of medical school.
So I found out that there was actually a way you could become a natural medicine doctor, which is a naturopathic
physician. And so, I started going to school. And I learned about the body, and I learned about the different systems
of the body, and that they all related to each other. And I learned how if your gut is out of balance, it can affect your
hormones, and if your hormones are out of balance, it can affect your brain. And that kind of, the light bulb went off
for me there, because all these years, these five years, I had been just trying to follow every hormone method, every
remedy just for my hormones, and I thought, “Well hey, I have these gut problems too. Maybe if I start working on my
gut that might affect my hormones too.
And so in running some of these tests, I did find out that I had some parasites. I had heavy metal toxicity. I had actually
a parasite in my gallbladder, which I didn’t even know you could get parasites there. And I had a lot of nutrient defi-
ciencies. I had a lot of things that were going on, and I talked to my professor, and he said these things can definitely
affect your hormones. And so, but I’m like well, I don’t want to get my hopes up, let me work on the protocols that I
know I can do.
So, with the help of some of my professors, and one of the doctors that were on staff, they put me through some
healing for my gut, and we got rid of the parasites. And so that actually improved my health dramatically. My energy
levels went up, my digestion normalized, and so that was amazing. And then we started working on some thyroid. I
was actually on thyroid medication for many years after that, but I actually had more energy and I felt better, so that

was starting to become manageable. I didn’t realize, I didn’t know at the time I had autoimmune thyroid as well, but I
actually didn’t discover that until I was actually out of school.
Yeah, Hashimoto’s autoimmune thyroid. So that was connected to my gut, now I know that.
THYROID — WEIGHT — HASHIMOTO’S
Dr. Joel Kahn: Other common problems in women, weight. Weight, the whole country’s going to collapse the planet.
And women are not isolated from stress, and poor sleep, and snacking, and calorie dense foods rather than nutrition
dense foods. So we got to educate them about that. I often bring in the power of fasting as a tool to optimize weight. So
they’re usually concerned about that. Thyroid disease, hypothyroid, autoimmune thyroid disease called Hashimoto’s,
very common, maybe getting more common because of the way food is produced and perhaps overlap with increasing
pesticides and environmental toxins like glyphosate Roundup, and gut issues too. Gut issues. There’s a real concern
and I’m not an alarmist, but a real concern that the widespread exposure we all have to Roundup, to glyphosate, to
pesticides. There’s a new one called Liberty Link. Are really destroying the bacteria in our gut, our microbiome, causing
us to have something called leaky gut, causing us to have inflammation, brain fog, and other manifestations of poor
health. And it just tracks back to the quality of food we’re putting in our body and women are suffering from it without
a doubt.
So Hashimoto’s thyroiditis is a form of thyroid disease, a distinct form. There’s overactive thyroid called hyperthyroidism.
There is an underactive thyroid, called hypothyroidism. Usually Hashimoto’s is the underactive hypo, but it’s actually
a destruction of thyroid tissue due to antibodies against the thyroid. So it’s an autoimmune disease. We shouldn’t be
destroying our own tissues. There can be a phase in Hashimoto’s where it is overactive for a while because as it’s being
destroyed some of the thyroid hormone gets released in the blood. So women may have hot spells and racing heart-
beats, and some weight loss and some fatigue. Of course, some of that may overlap with symptoms of menopause
if you don’t think about thyroid disease, but more commonly ends up with hypothyroidism challenges with gaining
weight, feeling cold, dry skin, brittle hair, feeling depressed, slow heart rate, constipation. Not a good thing and that
can be confused with a whole lot of other things like stress, anxiety, depression.
DR. MARIZA SNYDER: HASHIMOTO’S PERSONAL TESTIMONY
Dr. Mariza Snyder: So a little over a year ago I was diagnosed with Hashimoto’s thyroiditis, and it was a devastating
diagnosis. Here’s the thing, I probably had Hashimoto’s thyroiditis for a couple of years prior to getting diagnosed. We
just couldn’t see it and when we were running labs, everything was just coming back normal.
What Hashimoto’s thyroiditis is, is when the immune system, for whatever reason - I’ll talk about root causes in just a
second - decided to target the healthy tissue of your thyroid over time that slowly destroys the thyroid and you start to
get symptoms like weight resistance, brain fog, body temper regulation is really a struggle. Dry skin, slow metabolism,
chronic constipation, no libido, and a disruption of hormones just to name a couple of things that could go wrong.
When I got this diagnosis, the first question I wanted to ask myself and the practitioners that I worked with was how
did I get this? Because it’s one thing to just treat the thyroid, treat the Hashimoto’s. It’s another thing to actually get to
the root cause. What we know about the root cause for Hashimoto’s thyroiditis, and to be honest, almost any autoim-
mune condition inside of the body is environmental pollutants, nutrient deficiencies, especially with the thyroid, gut
dysbiosis, so your gut microbiome has been taken over or proliferated with other typical opportunistics like candida
or it gut parasites, heavy metals, chronic stress is a big one as well. I think that’s like the, the fuel on the fire, you know,
that it’s constantly pouring into the system. Then trauma, I think trauma’s also latent trauma that we haven’t addressed
or we haven’t expressed or moved through can also lead to immune system hyperactivity.

When I got diagnosed I immediately wanted to know why. Come to find out there were a couple things that were going
on. I was dealing with some gut issues. Stress was still on the horizon. I had a book coming out and we were working
non-stop around the clock to get this book ready. Happened to be a book on hormones, so it just felt very, very timely
in that way. Then also I was dealing with some toxicity, which so many of us are just by living in this modern world.
I wanted to know what kind of essential oils would help to support me. I knew that the conversion of our inactive T4
to active T3 was happening in the liver and happening in the gut. I wanted to see what was going on with those two
organs. I began to use oils to help support my liver. Oils like rosemary, geranium, grapefruit, and the other oil I love to
use was peppermint to just help support the liver. I was doing detox bath with those same oils, and I was also using
oils on my thyroid. I was using oils like frankincense, clove, myrrh, turmeric, because turmeric is a powerful anti-in-
flammatory. It’s great for boosting glutathione and it’s great for helping to support the thyroid, as well.
I made up a little blend of those four oils and I was applying it, a very diluted blend, on my thyroid every single day
to help support its function. Then I was using oils for stress reduction, for supporting the brain fog that I was dealing
with and supporting my hormones. I found that I was using oils in a multifaceted approach and I was consistent with
those protocols every single day on top of the nutrition, on top of the stress reducing techniques, and on top of sup-
plementation. Over the course of nine months I was able to get the Hashimoto’s into remission and get my thyroid
levels back to normal.
Right now, although my Hashimoto’s made never go away, it’s at a point in my life where it’s not responding or having
an impact on my thyroid. This is the case for so many women. You know, there are over 25 million people diagnosed
with Hashimoto’s thyroiditis. It’s the most fast growing autoimmune condition today. It affects of all men and women,
it’s 75 plus percent women, about 25 or less percent men. It’s definitely more of a women’s issue than it is a man’s
issue. Very often women don’t even know they have it. They don’t realize that they’ve got this condition going on, that
the immune system is reacting in that way.
Dr. Raquel Yarroch: So I was like, okay, so I started taking the thyroid drug ‘cause I wanted to follow and be compliant
and go along with that, so that’s what I did. And as time would go on, go through more colleges and have different life
stresses, as I would go my thyroid would keep getting worse and worse and worse and the levels of medication kept
skyrocketing and going up, to the point that eventually my, I finally had to up, but for the last time. I was like, well what
are you going to do when you run out of meds to give you? You know, what are they going to do when they don’t have
a stronger prescription to give you? I’m like well, and then I have to quit my stresses.
I’m like, so eventually I started feeling like I was just to die, because I wasn’t feeling good and I- my health was going
down the tubes, to the point where it got to be where I was with my staff and I told my staff, I’m like this is how you
sell the practice when I die, because I did not feel well, I was very sick and I had already by then developed a second
auto-immune disease.
HASHIMOTO’S THYROIDITIS / THYROID
Dr. Joel Fuhrman: Now, Hashimoto’s thyroiditis is very different. Because Hashimoto’s thyroiditis is an autoimmune
disease, but like you said earlier, it’s not an autoimmune disease that suppresses cell malfunction. It’s a different type
of autoimmune disease where you have destruction of the cells in the thyroid gland that are very fragile and very
sensitive to man-made chemicals and exposure to dioxin, PCBs, endocrine disruptors, and parabens. We have people
getting exposed to these environmental toxins and the women’s thyroid gland is very sensitive to those toxins. And
once it’s been destroyed for many years it doesn’t come back again. And even the right diet.

I’ve had cases who have had hypothyroidism and hyperthyroidism that made a full recovery, and I’ve had cases of
hypothyroidism newly diagnosed when they were young make full recoveries
Thyroid / Weight/ Hashimoto’s
Dr. Joel Kahn: You have to do blood work. You can suspect it and pretty much nail the diagnosis with a good physical
exam and vital signs. But you have to do blood work for thyroid function and thyroid antibodies you shouldn’t have in
your blood. Antibodies, your own thyroid. They’re very available. They’re very easy to do, thyroid antibodies. And you
can make a diagnosis, and then the question is what do you do from there? And it always goes back to the source of
all diseases in our gut, and we believe a lot of these antibodies, at least in the natural world, the functional medicine
world, come from leaky gut, altered gut integrity from fast food, and excess sugar, and excess alcohol, and antibiotics,
but environmental toxins, pesticides, Roundup, glyphosate, and such.
THYROID — FINDING INFO ON REVERSING DISEASE — DIVERTICULITIS
Dr. Raquel Yarroch: Lots of bloating, severe pains down in here. And they couldn’t, when I had diverticulitis, it would
be left side, but this was more on the right or dead center. And it would be a basically almost 24/7. There was no
relief. My stomach would swell up three inches. I actually started measuring myself. My legs would swell up; my veins
would get worse, so that I had to wear expandable clothes throughout the day, because I would expand throughout
the day, as the day would go on. Let’s see, what other, constipation. Pretty severe constipation. And I missed some of
the other ones.
Jonathan Otto: What symptoms attached to diverticulitis and Hashimoto’s thyroiditis.
Dr. Raquel Yarroch: Hashimoto’s is the dry skin, dry hair, hair that falls out in clumps.
Jonathan Otto: You had that?
Dr. Raquel Yarroch: Oh yeah, yeah. My stylist has a fun job now with some of my hair growth coming back. And I’m
like, can we do it? And she’s like, yeah, your hair’s growing back. It’s just not good happen, you’re just going to have to
live with these little weird strands.
Jonathan Otto: Which is a good thing
Dr. Raquel Yarroch: Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. My hair’s coming back. Let’s see, what were some of the other besides
the dry skin. Very, very cold, always cold, hypersensitive to cold. To the point where I had to put gloves on my hands to
go in the freezer, just to touch anything that’s cold. So that, and then the diverticulitis, it would be, I knew I had to keep
myself away from constipation, so I would do everything and anything I could to stay away from that, because that
would cause the flare up and that intense pain to the point where you almost black out from the pain. And it is, if one
of the pouches were ever to break open, it could affect you. But I was living in, it kept getting worse with stomach pain.
Dr. Raquel Yarroch: And it, I was living in constant pain, constant sickness, this- the tired, the fatigue, the stomach
constant, constant stomach pain, never a break from it, until the point where I was just miserable and in and out of
the ER and just doing different things. So, I had been tested at one point and I pulled out certain foods and you know
I’d feel a little better then I’d put it back in, and I would get sick again. So I just, I kept taking more thyroid medication
and - they’d give you antibiotics for everything else. And eventually I was just like, okay something has to give or I’m
going to die and I can’t do that. I have a nine year old child and I can’t risk that.

So, I started doing some research and figuring some things out, and I started changing my diet, changing what I was
doing, started at first had to cut-out the stresses, so I completely changed my work lifestyle. Everything had to get
changed and then I started changing the diet and everything and, really now it’s a year later and 100% different. I am
not that same person.
INFERTILITY
Dr. Leigh Erin Connealy: So, people want to... I will tell you, usually, getting guys to come in here used to be a prob-
lem. But now, that’s all changed. Men are willing to be patients and discover what’s going on. But let’s face it, guys are
basically Hercules and they don’t really think anything’s wrong with them. But the main difference between a man and
a woman, as far as their blood work goes, the blood work is very similarly done. A comprehensive blood work testing,
nutritional testing, but hormone levels.
So people need to know hormones are the natural drugs to your body. They’re molecular messengers that turn your
cells on and off as the body needs it. And men have much higher testosterone levels than women, and women have
higher estrogen levels than men. That’s really the basic difference. The other hormones, thyroid hormones, adrenal
hormones, blood sugar hormones are basically all the same. The main difference is the testosterone levels.
And we’re in a very serious time because a lot of young men... when I say young men, between 20 and 30 and 35, have
very low testosterone levels. That’s why all doctors need to be looking at the hormones of everyone today, because
Rachel Carson wrote a book called Silent Spring in the 60s. And her book revealed that in nature, we were seeing sexual
changes in nature. So, we talked about these chemicals being, changing the manifestation of that creature. Well, we
didn’t listen. And now, we are dealing with the ramifications of low hormone levels in men and hormonal changes in
women, and the outrageous increase in infertility levels.
PCOS — INFERTILITY
Dr. Joel Fuhrman: To start out with, I have to say that when I first met the woman that eventually became my wife when
she was younger, she had polycystic ovary syndrome and was told that she’d never have children, that are hormones
are all messed up, and that it was a genetic issue and there’s nothing she could do about it. She also had frequent
urinary tract infections, by the way as well. She met me and before we got married, she was very open and interested
in nutrition and it made a lot of good logical sense to her. She started eating healthier when we were dating, before
we even got married. She never had another urinary tract infection. After having recurrent urinary tract infections,
never had another one. Since we’ve been married, she’s never had one.
Plus the fact that her polycystic ovary syndrome went away relatively quickly. We had four healthy children that are
now adults she never had a problem getting pregnant, either. She was told she couldn’t get pregnant.
I have had so many women who were unable to get pregnant, have their fertility get back and able to get pregnant. It’s
just a common thing I see every day. I was once giving a lecture in Tampa to an auditorium full of physicians, about 500
physicians. One guy comes running up the center aisle pulling this attractive woman with him, and he’s yelling at me,
“You got my wife pregnant.” I’m looking at this guy yelling you got my wife pregnant. And he turns around and says to
everybody, “We tried to have a baby. For five years, we were married, couldn’t have a baby. I read Dr. Fuhrman’s book.
We both started together and within like two,” and within a certain amount of time. I don’t remember what it was she
was able to get fertile and pregnant.

Some infertility doctors right there in the audience said, “Yes, yes, we do the same thing. We use Dr. Fuhrman’s books
for our people who are in for, that we find when they start eating all the healthy diet, they’re able to become more
fertile and get pregnant.”
Infertility
Dr. Leigh Erin Connealy: Infertility levels, the ability to get pregnant and the ability for a male to have great sperm
has dramatically decreased in the last, I would say... it’s decreased 50% in the last 20 years.
Jonathan Otto: And what is that due to?
Dr. Leigh Erin Connealy: I think it’s due to all the chemical influence that we have in our system. The number one,
the top chemicals that we have are xenoestrogens. Xeno is the Greek word for foreign, and we have a lot of foreign
estrogens in the environment. The biggest one is plastics. And plastics, as you probably know, are not biodegradable.
And I’ve been telling patients to get off plastics for over 17 years, when everybody thought I was crazy.
And I’m not crazy because now, they teach it in the schools and they tell you, no, we shouldn’t be using plastic water
bottles, we should be using, really, glass water bottles. Or, they have now, the bottles that are supposedly not supposed
to diffuse, but they’re still not good. You need to stick to glass or stainless steel.
So, these chemicals are... they’re hormone disruptors. What does that mean? They’re disrupting the normal hormonal
functions that we’re supposed to have in our system. And since hormones, like I said, are the natural drugs in your
body, this is a very crucial dilemma.
TRIGGERS – DIET
Jonathan Otto: Your vital organs are always “on” aren’t they? Doing what they were designed to do 24/7 to keep you
alive. Your brain, heart, lungs, kidneys and liver.. all continuing to work for you long after you’ve turned in and gone
to sleep. This work takes fuel, which we draw from our food. If there is one thing all doctors and experts can agree on,
it’s that putting good food into our bodies is essential to good health.
Harmful chemicals and pesticides, artery clogging fats and high processed sugars - hidden in the synthetically tasty,
forever shelf life, quick grab packages in the impulse-buy aisles, contribute to pain and inflammation and make us sick.
Our bodies simply cannot keep up, trying to make sense of and then dispose of these harmful agents, which end up
either causing autoimmunity responses or slowing down - even eventually shutting down our systems.
It is truly better to prevent than to heal. We want to show you that there is even more you can do to make your food
choices even healthier, resulting in feeling great, sleeping soundly, thinking sharper and keep your energy levels up.
By following a high plant based diet from Organic and non-Genetically Modified Foods and taking in all the benefits.
That is; the energizing and mood elevating vitamins, minerals, healthy fats and oils, the gut boosting probiotic, as well
as the detoxifying enzymes and acids to maintain an effective bowel.
One easy way to start off is to consider the dirty dozen and clean 15. If you haven’t heard of this, in 2004 The
Environmental Working Group (EWG) started a tradition in 2004, releasing and updating every year, a guide to pes-
ticides in fresh produce so that even when not buying fully organic, people can still make educated decisions on the
best foods for themselves and their families.
Eating organic is also essential to avoid GMOs. While, GMOs are still being studied, and the media has purported them
to be safe, there are studies showing that these biologically engineered organisms do have adverse effects on health.

From these next interviews, I hope you will be able to take away a world of information that will stay with you for life.
Learning which foods have been known to act as triggers and make our bodies more prone to illness by tampering
with our hormone levels, immune systems and overworking our systems versus foods that truly nourish us, feed our
cells, clean and detoxify our digestive system and arm us with the energy and strength we need to conquer the day
and fight off unwanted invaders.
THYROID — TRIGGERS
Jonathan Otto: What was starting the fire?
Dr. Raquel Yarroch: Eating a lot of dairy. Eggs, gluten, coffee. I don’t really drink alcohol, but alcohol is one of the
things. Taking out processed foods, taking out any kind of sugars and fake sugars. Nightshade plants, corn, all of that
kind of stuff. So eating a very clean, whole diet.
Jonathan Otto: You were literally putting wood on the inflammation, on the fire that was within your body. I mean, we
just have words to illustrate what’s happening. Inflammation is a word that’s used to describe what’s happening in the
body, which is obviously not a literal fire. It’s a fire of the body, which is everything from the scarring of the tissue to
toxic overload to indigestible proteins or things that permeate the walls of the colon. It’s interesting to define things. I
love words and I love working out meanings, like chelation to detox. Heavy metals comes from the Greek to claw, and
it’s to pull and extract and we want to do all the right things. You mentioned about putting gas in the fire, so you took
the gas off the fire, you took the wood off the fire, but then what else did you do to get better?
Dr. Raquel Yarroch: So took the wood out. I started eating the whole good foods. So eating the healthy foods and
pre-cooking my food, getting it prepped and ready so I had it throughout the week, so I didn’t have to stress about it
when I came home. So I had it pre done.
Jonathan Otto: What was that food?
Dr. Raquel Yarroch: A lot of sweet potatoes, rosemary, garlic, thyme, sage and using spices and herbs to help heal,
bringing in a lot of like the spinach like I mentioned, carrots and turnips and parsnips and just bringing in a whole dif-
ferent variety. Like kale and just opening up your mind to all the different vegetables that are out there, and there’s so
many. And learning to cook and experiment with all these different flavors, and then creating a lot of different foods,
and even my husband would make comments like this stuff tastes really good.
Jonathan Otto: Yeah, wow. So you didn’t feel restricted?
Dr. Raquel Yarroch: No, no.
Jonathan Otto: You felt, it sounds like the reverse happened for you.
Dr. Raquel Yarroch: Yeah, I was able to find a lot of yummy food.
Jonathan Otto: Yeah. It seems to expand your palate, because your body needed extra things to fuel their microbi-
ome. Is that correct?
Dr. Raquel Yarroch: Yep.
Jonathan Otto: A lot of people are very narrow in their eating, because it’s just quite very standard and we’re used
to it, like iceberg lettuce is so common, has no nutritional value, and we used to certain colors, just red of the tomato,
but there’s a lot of different shades of red.

Dr. Raquel Yarroch: And there’s things that even when I took my IGG test, my IGG test only came up with dairy and
eggs as the main thing.
Dr. Raquel Yarroch: But even now there’s still things I play around with it. I think are still on the good list, but there’s
something still that can irritate my system too. So I’m still working on that progress of always trying to figure out what
it is and making sure. But guess what, accidentally every now and then, you get something in your body. And you can
get it in once here and there, and it doesn’t usually upset me so much. But if I accidentally threw a couple of times in
a row, it doesn’t like it. It will get really, really irritated.
FERTILITY & GMOS
Jeffrey Smith: In our film, Secret Ingredients, we travel to a chiropractic clinic where the woman ends up treating a lot of
infertile couples. Some have been to infertility clinics and some have not. Some have identified very specific problems
that are getting in their way, and some have not. And she puts, in addition to her chiropractor, she puts every one of
the infertile couples on a 100% organic diet, and for those that followed her protocol, 92 infertile couples, and 100%
of them now have children. No fails. 100%. And we have heard this over and over again about people having trouble
having children, they switch to organic and they have children. People not having their period, they switch to organic,
they get their period. Someone’s interviewed like that in our film as well.
I was speaking at the European Parliament many years ago with Irina Ermakova, a senior researcher at the Russian
Academy of Sciences. She talked about her research on rats, feeding female rates genetically modified soy that’s
sprayed with Roundup starting two weeks before they got pregnant, continuing through their lacta - their pregnancy
and lactation. More than 50% of the offspring died within three weeks compared to a 10% death rate among rats
that were fed non-GMO soy. And she, the, she could not breed, the experimental group, the GM soy group, with each
other. They had no child - they had no offspring. So they were... They could breed with the others, but it was a lower
offspring rate, so basically they were struggling with infertility and that the controls had no problem.
Another study in Russian for the Russian Academy of Sciences showed by the, by the third generation hamsters on
GMO soy, most were infertile and there was a four- to fivefold increase in infant mortality, and there were birth defects.
Some had hair growing in their mouths. There is a dossier online about how Roundup has been linked to birth defects
since the 1980s. And that information has been covered up. And where glyphosate-based herbicides like Roundup are
sprayed in Argentina by plane, birth defects have skyrocketed. In one large region by about 400%, in one very specific
small area over 70-fold. One researcher injected glyphosate into embryos of chickens and frogs and found the exact
same type of birth defects that were rampant among the peasants who were living next to the fields that were being
sprayed by plane. It’s a tragedy.
If you look at the slides of testicles of rats that were fed GMOs as were handed to me by Dr. Irina Ermakova, you could
see that they changed their color from pink to blue. The whole blood supply changed. In a study done in Italy, the mice
test-, the mouse testicles changed. They had damaged young sperm cells. A study done in Brazil showed female rats had
changes in the uterus and ovaries. They found Roundup in the cord blood, as well as BT toxin. Roundup is damaging
to human placental cells. The sperm motility requires manganese. Manganese is one of the many, many minerals that
are chelated by glyphosate and making it less available. There are all sorts of evidence linking reproductive problems,
whether it’s hormonal, organ-based, sperm-based, or just... or birth defects, from infertility and healthy reproduction.
In fact, where glyphosate has been sprayed in large amounts and farm areas, the miscarriage rate is higher.

So I, I say absolutely if you want to have children, go organic before you conceive, because there are studies that show
that after two weeks on an organic diet the amount of chemicals in our blood is less, and you don’t want to have a lot
of chemicals in your blood, but it should be at least two weeks, and ideally a lot longer. And there are certain chemicals.
Like there’s not just Roundup ready crops, there’s Liberty Link crops that are sprayed with Liberty herbicide, glufosinate.
And that’s linked to birth defects. When you introduce certain of these what are called teratogens, elements that can
create birth defects, they get introduced into the pregnancy. At certain times they’ll affect different systems, the brain,
etc. So, don’t introduce any of that if you can help it during pregnancy.
Then in raising the child, you know, the child will be affected by whether the parents, specifically the mother, has been
eating GMOs or not, because Roundup, and not just GMOs, but non-organic food because that’s sprayed with a lot of
non-GMOs. Roundup is an antibiotic. It changes the bacterial balance in the system. Well, the microbiome of the child
is inoculated as it leaves through the birth canal. So if it’s been distorted or disturbed by the presence of antibiotics,
especially Roundup in the food supply over a long period of time, that will affect the health of the microbiome of the
child, which could affect the health of that child for many, many years.
GMOS
Jonathan Otto: This research is just starting to come out about GMOs, but even then, it’s nearly impossible to hear
about it in the mainstream media. That’s part of what we want to do in this series. We want to give you access to in-
formation about diseases, what’s causing it and foods and herbs that can help your body heal. We want to give you
the chance to decide for yourself.
Not all foods are genetically modified. So, we want to give you the top 7 GMO foods to look out for in the US: corn,
soy, cottonseed, alfalfa, papaya, canola, and sugar beets. Soy has been a subject of great controversy because of the
phytoestrogens, but perhaps a bigger question is could the genetic modification of these crops be playing a role in the
hormone imbalances of Americans? Considering 93% of soy in the US is GMO, it’s definitely a question worth exploring.
Alfalfa is fed to dairy cows, which begs the question, how is it affecting the food sources 2nd hand. And, of course, we
know Canola is one of the major oils used in cooking in the US and 90% of canola crop is GMO. We are much more
inundated with this than we realize. It’s in the majority of processed foods. Beet sugar is where 54% of processed sugars
comes from. So, this is your opportunity to arm yourself with information that will help you protect and heal the body.
TRIGGERS
Jonathan Otto: Besides diet, another trigger to hormone related issues is parasites living in your gut. Millions of
people live with parasites and don’t even know it. Parasites can live in your intestines for a number of years before
causing any symptoms. Not only that, but when you do present symptoms such as; digestive issues, fatigue, sleep
issues, muscle cramps, poor concentration, rashes and headaches, the symptoms are so common that they often
mistakenly brushed off as something else.
Furthermore, testing for parasites is often non-conclusive. Once you contract them, they feed on you. Cells, blood,
energy and all. Stealing the nutrients you eat before you even get to them. To make things worse, parasites, like all
living organisms, excrete waste after they feed as well as toxins from their decomposition when they die, ...all into
your bloodstream.
You can contract these undesirable passengers in many ways including contact with an infected person, contami-
nated and undercooked food and from improperly handling pet fecal matter. Over time, having a parasite can lead
to a deficiency in nutrients, chronic digestive issues, skin conditions, inflammation, hormone imbalances and more.

Research studies have concluded that women infected with ‘asymptomatic’ latent parasites take longer to conceive,
have reported more difficulties with fertility and could be a serious source of fertility and health-associated problems.
So what can one do when these creepy critters have chosen us as a host? The good news is that functional medicine
practitioners have seen amazing results in herbal remedies such as mimosa pudica seed for parasite removal and
detoxification and gut cleansing. With parasite infestations eliminated from the system, balances in hormones, GI tract
health, inflammation and cognition can be restored, as well as symptoms alleviated.
THYROID — FINDING INFO ON REVERSING DISEASE — PARASITE CLEANSE
Jonathan Otto: Have you done any parasite cleanse yet?
Dr. Raquel Yarroch: I have not done that yet. Actually am going to be working on some of that at the...I want to get the
stool test first, then to see what I have. ‘Cause when I did my first one, I didn’t do it with them in it, so that is definitely
on. It’s actually ordered right now. So I’ll be doing it this next week.
Jonathan Otto: Well I’m looking forward to hearing how you go with that, because I do think that it might open up
your ability to eat more things.
Dr. Raquel Yarroch: I agree.
Jonathan Otto: Cool. And that’s going to be exciting. And my personal take on it is if you did get a report that said
you had no parasites, I would treat it as if it said you had parasites, because the cyclical nature of parasites, you’re not
always going to catch the eggs. You’re not always going to, they’re not even testing for a lot of the different parasites
there. There are a lot of different parasites they’re not looking for.
Dr. Raquel Yarroch: And you have to break down their film too, ‘cause their films are so and so. Then once you start
to break that down by taking some of the different products, then they’ll start to break down, and you’ll see them in
your stool and stuff. But in the beginning you might not.
Dr. Michelle Sands – Personal Testimony
Dr. Michelle Sands: We used foods. We used supplements. We used herbs. And those are the things that I used to
heal that way. So time went on. Fast forward. I’m changing my diet. I’m changing my mindset.
I started doing some meditation, some gratitude. I started doing things that were more nurturing to my body along
with the lifestyle. And all these things helped me to feel a lot better, but I was still wondering what’s going on with the
fertility.
I wasn’t married at the time, so I wasn’t looking to get pregnant, but I was just wondering “Wow, I’m just fixing so many
things.” My periods are starting to get a little more normal, but they were still few and far between, so I wasn’t sure I
was there yet. I kept going, just doing lifestyle, actually, and going through a couple more detox protocols. The heavy
metals, getting those out of my system. Really kind of dialing my nutrition for my body. Not necessarily with the fad
diets, because I was following the diets in the magazines for so many years and that was actually, unknowing at the
time, but putting stress on my body that wasn’t supposed to be there.
What I have found in all of these trials and tribulations was that the three things that were the biggest detractors from
my hormones and my health in general and what I find to be at the root of pretty much all hormonal imbalances and
almost any dysfunction disease is stress. Stress on the body, both emotional stress and physical stress. That includes

trauma. It includes any kind of worry or fear. Stress is one of the number one reasons that people end up in the doc-
tor’s office. It’s the number one reason people have any type of imbalance or disorder.
Then there is toxicity. Like I mentioned the toxicity from the parasites. Toxicity from heavy metals. Toxicity just from
the birth control pills. That’s a huge one. A lot of people don’t realize that birth control pills are not hormones. They
are actually hormone destructors. So, those are actually toxic chemicals that we’re putting in our bodies that the World
Health Organization actually classifies as endocrine destructing chemicals.
So, this means that we’re trying to balance young girls’ hormones with things that are destroying their hormones. So,
were talking about any prescription medications, vaccines, which I was fully vaccinated, so we were exposed to all those
vaccines with all the toxins. You can get toxins from your environment, from the new car smell, your dryer sheets.
Toxins are all around us, but there are so many more toxins in our environment today than there were 20 years and
a hundred years before that. Toxins are definitely destructing our hormonal balance and our health.
The third is nutrient deficiencies. Without the proper nutrients, we can’t actually synthesize our hormones and we
cannot even... our hormones can’t do their jobs. They cannot bind to receptors. They can’t convert into usable forms
and they can’t actually work properly. I was lacking Vitamin D, which is huge for hormone balance. Magnesium, which
is another important mineral for hormones to actually convert and do their job, and then selenium, which is huge for
thyroid. So selenium is really important. And also iodine. Iodine is a big one, especially in our environment now, be-
cause the fluoridated water and all the bromines, which are on the same line of the periodic table as iodine is. When
we ingest bromine, which is in Gatorade... which, because I’m an athlete, I drink a lot of Gatorade. It’s in some breads.
It’s also in citrus flavored drinks, like Sprite and Fresca. Things like that. Those bromines will actually inhibit your body’s
ability to absorb iodine. Iodine is what the thyroid hormone is made of. That was something that we really need and
many people aren’t going around eating seaweed and kelp, which is how we get iodine in their diet. Knowing that and
being able to feed my body the foods that were actually containing those nutrients were huge. So, definitely I would...
a protocol for imbalances would be to reduce stress. I, personally, reduced the long distance running. Running is great,
if you enjoy running, but if you are having adrenal fatigue or a thyroid imbalances, running too much can actually be
detrimental for your health.
CYSTS — EPIGENETICS
Jonathan Otto: Thank you, and then ovarian cysts, have you seen them go away?
Jonathan Otto: Really?
Dr. Olivia Joseph: So a big factor in ovarian cysts is low progesterone. So if you conventionally find out you have an
ovarian cyst, what are you given? You’re given birth control. What is birth control? Synthetic progesterone. You can
achieve that same result with natural progesterone as well.
Jonathan Otto: How do you get that?
Dr. Olivia Joseph: How do you get natural progesterone?
Dr. Olivia Joseph: It’s available over the counter in low enough doses. You can get natural supplements that are preg-
nenolone in low doses, and pregnenolone is a precursor to progesterone. So there are cream options, and there’s
supplement options as well.

Jonathan Otto: Can it be used and does it work even if it’s considered to be genetic?
Dr. Olivia Joseph: So what would cause a genetic cyst is what I would wonder. That’s where I would like to see some...
Just because it runs in families doesn’t make it genetic.
Jonathan Otto: So when it comes to epigenetics, are you of the mindset that something has been done or not done
that has turned it on and it can be turned off?
Dr. Olivia Joseph: Right, so your genes are not your destiny, right? 90% of people right now who get cancer aren’t
carrying genes for cancer, right? So it’s not doom and gloom if you have issues with your genes. Epigenetics, how
we turn genes on and off is far more intriguing and far more advanced form of healthcare to approach helping your
patients get well.
Jonathan Otto: And would you say that that concept that you just mentioned there is mainstream science?
Dr. Olivia Joseph: No. No, absolutely not. So we just finished the human genome project in 2010, realize, so this is
roughly eight years ago. So in eight years, you would think more people have been educated on this, but a lot of what
we get in healthcare, a lot of our education comes from self-education which means I get to study what I’m most in-
terested in, and I dedicated 15 years plus before I was even in practice to study that which I’m most passionate about
which is epigenetics, functional medicine, nutrition, Chinese medicine but if that’s not something you’re passionate
about, you’re not going to have any education in that because you can’t pursue achieving that.
Thyroid / Finding info on Reversing Disease
Dr. Raquel Yarroch: I started diving into a lot more and doing a lot more and doing a lot more research and you know
as you do that how the path opens up for you, so I started learning a lot more in that regard to auto-immune diseases
and I didn’t know they were reversible until probably every March when I started figuring it out, doing more research
into it, figuring out the foods and finding out, guess what, it is reversible, and when you get out there, the only thing
when you’re in auto-immune disease, there’s not much information out there.
I don’t - I had a hard - they’ll find it like specific diseases, the Hashimoto’s or there’s stuff specifically on specific ones,
but not the whole thing, and not the diet and not the educational that it is reversible where it is. You know that’s the
thing is, it is, and people don’t know that, they just think that they have to live with the drugs and they have to live the
way they are, and they don’t.
PLANT — BASED DIET — GLUTEN — FREE
Dr. Joel Kahn: So I put these people on a whole food plant based diet. I put them on an organic diet. I eliminate excess
sugar, alcohol. A gluten free diet might be a good in Hashimoto’s I will often recommend that. And you can see their
antibodies come down and their thyroid disease stabilize. There are a few other tricks to kind of improve the health
of the GI tract and try and manage it. Whereas typically a woman will just get a prescription for thyroid replacement,
which can alleviate a lot of the symptoms, but it’s not actually addressing the root cause of Hashimoto’s. It’s the gut,
baby, almost every time.
BRAZIL NUTS, SELENIUM, THYROID
Dr. Sruti Lam: And the last thing I want to talk about here is Brazil nuts. Brazil nuts are not as common as almonds,
or walnuts, but they are increasing in popularity. Brazil nuts are very high in a mineral called selenium. Selenium is
what is needed for thyroid metabolism. As little as two Brazil nuts a day can give you up to 60 mg of selenium. That

is the RDA that is our daily intake, recommended daily intake of selenium that our body requires, and two Brazil nuts
can increase selenium in your body. Selenium is for thyroid health, as I mentioned.
Another great thing about selenium is it’s excellent for acne. When you combine selenium with Vitamin A and E, it
helps with absorption, better into our body, breaking down the biofilm area, and actually helps with acne or sebum
production. So, Brazil nuts, just like any other nut, has high fatty acids, great Omega-3 fatty acids, and great protein.
It’s a great snack to have. You can toast it. You can eat it just raw, or you can garnish your fruits or vegetables with it.
DR. RAQUEL YARROCH: PERSONAL TESTIMONY – THYROID IMPROVEMENTS
Dr. Raquel Yarroch: The focus, the memory, the - my skin is coming back; I actually have like a glow to skin. My hair is
actually getting healthy again, my nails are getting healthier. I’ve lost like 20 pounds. I just feel so much better. I’m not
living in constant stomach pain. You know, I can live and I can breathe again and it’s just been huge. I mean I just can’t
imagine that there’s other people I know that are out there that are, that are probably about like where I was at, and I
don’t want them to have to liv- I mean there’s something you can do, you can reverse it, and the process starting this
past August, so starting just a few months ago they started taking me down on my medications, I’ve actually gone down
50mg already in about two months from where I was at. So I’m like, they kind of looked at me like what are you doing?
And I’m like well, I’ve changed my diet and changed my entire lifestyle and I’m creating a whole different kind of system
and program and just like really paying attention to my life, and I like, okay... and I was like kinds of stumped, they’re
like well you’re the medical doctor, so like well, you should be always giving you more drugs, kind of thing. And I just,
I’m like no, and so as a result of that patients have kinds of noticed then, I just started creating and putting things
together and using myself as my own test guinea pig first, right.
THYROID
John Schott: Also, the mineral ratios will tell you a lot about this as well. Sometimes sodium potassium is off. Sometimes
calcium magnesium is off, as far as reading some of either the lab work or hard tissue analysis when it comes to these
minerals, and that’s a clear indicator that the thyroid’s probably not functioning up to speed, or naturally. When the
thyroid is low, and you have this cascade of hormones that are completely off as far as their timing goes, it’ll evidently
affect the reproductive organs and the functioning of the hormones and things like that as related to fertility, and all
these incidences of... mostly it’s fibrosis, for women.
So, a thing that I usually suggest for my women clients is to start to explore something, a systemic enzyme therapy,
which is very safe, but it’s also extremely effective to basically some of this fibrosis that gets concentrated in their
pelvic area. When you compound the water, the magnesium, the body work, and maybe you add some of these sys-
temic enzymes, a lot of times this fibrosis starts to go away. I mean, it actually goes away pretty effectively, and now
you get periods that are more regular, less painful. I’ve seen cases where women were having issues conceiving, and
through this process of working in these habits and these techniques and strategies, they were able to get pregnant.
So, I mean, that’s a pretty powerful thing if you ask me, you know?
ROSEMARY & MALE BALDNESS
Dr. Sruti Lam: Another interesting fact about rosemary is rosemary oil is excellent for hair growth. So, when we have
the syndrome called androgenic alopecia, which is basically male-patterned baldness, rosemary, a few drop of rose-
mary, on coconut oil or any carrier oil, you can use almond, tehobakt, coconut, and you just apply it directly to your
hair or any place that you have some balding. It actually enhances growth.

A lot of research has compared both Minoxidil, which is used for hair growth, with rosemary oil for hair growth, and in
60 days, they saw that both rosemary oil along with Minoxidil had the same kind of results. So, that’s a great thing about
rosemary. Rosemary’s great for food, any kind of cooking and just nibbling on it. It is a great antibacterial, antiseptic,
and has been used for centuries just as a poultice when you get hurt, or you have a bruise, or you just fall down and
scrape your leg. You can make a poultice of rosemary and apply it directly to the wound, and that really helps with
healing and prevention of any infection.
INFERTILITY
Dr. Olivia Joseph: There are some amazing things you could do for infertility. Acupuncture, absolutely, as well as looking
at the hormone balance. Removing certain foods from your diet, inflammatory foods like wheat and dairy, and even
incorporating some natural herbs that improve blood flow to your uterus, like chaste tree berry.
Jonathan Otto: Okay. Chaste tree berry
Dr. Olivia Joseph: Chaste tree berry. And making sure that you don’t have that gene mutation, MTHFR, it’s a huge
cause of infertility, and blood clots. So, fibroids are blood clots within the uterus. So I think having the genetic testing
for MTHFR is important as well, it can elevate a lot of pain and frustration, because when you’re trying to get pregnant
and you can’t, or when you’re having multiple miscarriages, that’s very emotional, and it’s very hard on your body
physically too.
SYSTEMIC ENZYMES VS. DIGESTIVE ENZYMES
Jonathan Otto: That’s right. That’s amazing. Now, you mentioned... so you’re saying systemic enzymes. Is this the
same as digestive enzymes?
John Schott: They’re different. That’s a great question. Systemic enzymes, usually you will take away from food, because
the systemic enzymes are meant to basically eat away at fibrosis, calcification, and those are usually most effective
when they’re done away from a digestive process. So, digestive enzymes are meant to help you digest, which is another
thing that I see that’s extremely common nowadays, people with digestive issues. Typically, they’re not producing as
much hydrochloric acid in the body as effectively as they should, so basically there’s protein that’s being undigested,
amino acids that are not being absorbed, minerals that are not being absorbed because when we are taking some of
our foods... even healthy foods... and not processing them correctly inside our body, they just start to accumulate, or
you don’t have efficient absorption.
It also throws off the ecological habitat inside the body, so you get things like colitis and SIBO and other conditions that
are... now, they’re pretty common. A lot of them have to do with inflammatory things, from glyphosates and things
like that. But it also has to do with an inability to create enough digestive force. I mean, a lot of it is minerals. Going
back to the minerals, it’s not enough sodium in the natural, like from pure sea salt and things like that, that basically
naturally will get those digestive juices to break down food without having to give somebody anything extra. Salt is
very important, and I’m talking about natural salt, I’m not talking about the added sodium that’s extremely excessive
night processed foods and things like that, but that’s a key element too. But sometimes I’ll have somebody who has
so much weak digestion get onto digestive enzymes, and they will usually take those with the meal, or right before the
meal. So that’s the difference with the systemic and digestive enzymes, is the mechanism.
But the reason I like the systemic enzyme... So the profile of a systemic enzyme is somewhat different. The constituents
in there are designed, not necessarily for digestion, even though you can take a systemic enzyme, and it’ll help, slightly,
with digestion because there are some digestive components in there, but the main things that are in a systemic enzyme

are things like nattokinase, serapeptase. These are extracts that are designed, basically, to lyse away or dissolve away
some of these components that we accumulate through inflammation, stress, inorganic constituents, and things like
that. And when I say lyse or dissolve away, I’m talking about just basically scraping, almost like a sponge, some of this
fibrosis, which is hardened tissue, calcification where there’s the crystals that we’ve been talking a lot a lot about, and
it’s almost like a Pac-man, you know? It’s eating away some of this stuff that’s being accumulated in the tissues and
the internal organs in the arterial walls, in any soft tissue that is accumulating some of this, these elements that are
not supposed to be there. The systemic enzyme basically goes in there and internally does that as well.
SAGE – WOMEN’S HEALTH – FERTILITY, MENOPAUSE, MOOD, ANTIBACTERIAL
Dr. Sruti Lam: The next herb we have right here is sage. Every time I look at sage, the thing that comes to my mind is
women’s health. Sage is an excellent reproductive tonic. It is also used for insomnia when you come to a menopausal
age. It decreases night sweats, and hot flashes. So, it also decreases mood and anxiety, and so helps people sleep,
especially by balancing out your estrogen progesterone. That is one of the main uses of sage.
Sage, like rosemary, is also antibacterial, and it has an affinity for our throat, and our bronchial tract. Just inhaling sage
oil, or diffusing sage, actually helps with clearing out your sinuses, and also helps clearing out your respiratory tract.
DETOXIFICATION AND ESSENTIAL OILS
Dr. Mariza Snyder: It’s because of the limbic system. It’s because of the amygdala. So I always believe that with an oil
or with a selection of oils, you can literally choose your mood. If I want to feel more elevated, I will use a citrus oil and
peppermint oil, like wild orange and peppermint. Not only is that combination instant energy, like from zombie to su-
perstar in 60 seconds, but also we know that citrus oils boost happy neurotransmitters like serotonin and dopamine.
So it’s really, really hard. I always tell people, “I dare you to stay angry after breathing in wild orange or tangerine.” It’s
practically impossible because it changes the chemistry. It changes the way that we experience the life around us. So
anytime you’re feeling like you’re in a bad place and you need to up your spirit, grab a citrus essential oil. And anytime
you feel extremely stressed and overwhelmed and anxious, grab Vetiver, or lavender, and that will literally take it back
down a notch.
If you feel like you’re stuck and you’re despondent, and you’re not feeling great, let’s say you’re just unmotivated,
grab a wild orange, basil and peppermint. That combination will take you from just feeling blah to getting back into
your game. Again, we are leveraging this chemistry inside of our brains to really elicit the changes that we want. And
honestly, you just start picking up an oil and just feeling how it responds to you. And I think that’s one of my favorite
things about these oils is that not only do they work with your own personal chemistry... so not every oil is going to
be the same for every single person. But by breathing those in, it makes profound shifts in your brain, profound shifts
in your cognition.
A BETTER WAY
Dr. Olivia Joseph: So is there a better way? The ways we’re currently using conventionally are failing, right? I mean
even if we have high mortality rates in our country, which is just crazy when it comes to childbirth and infant mortality,
and I think that a lot of those things you mentioned related to hormones like PCOS, endometriosis, and fibroids, they
really affect your quality of life. Maybe not your quantity of life.
I mean conventionally we’re cutting parts out of people doing a hysterectomy, and that might get rid of the symptoms,
but you didn’t get rid of the root cause, and that root cause is going to increase your risk for hormone positive cancer.

That root cause is still going to affect your quality of life, your mood, your energy levels, even if you take out the uterus.
So I think conventionally, we have great emergency medicine, emergency C-sections, emergency hemorrhage, but
outside of that, conventionally we’re failing. We think that we can fix things with synthetic hormones, but the inception
of synthetic hormones have created more problems, more hormone positive cancers, deaths, blood clots, things of
that nature as well as side effects.
So I think some great ways to approach hormones naturally, even if you cannot have the testing, is detoxification,
magnesium, keeping exercise, things of that nature, incorporating great foods like cruciferous vegetables, dark leafy
greens, and things of that nature.
THYROID — HASHIMOTO’S — DIGESTIVE ENZYMES
Dr. Joel Kahn: When we’re dealing with Hashimoto’s thyroiditis, we’re talking about the health of the gut. You have to
end up ultimately talking about adequate and efficient digestion food. This is all part of being mindful. It’s one thing
to pick gorgeous, beautiful, organic foods to power your body, but then you have this system where as soon as you
eat foods that contain carbohydrates basically, all foods have some carbohydrates. You got to release enzymes. Your
pancreas is going to detect within your intestines and release enzymes called amylase to help digest that complex
carbohydrate down to simple sugars, to absorb and fuel your body. It’s a great process.
If you’re eating foods that have fat in them. Almost all foods have some fat, even a white potato might be 10% fat.
You’re going to need lipases, enzymes to break it down. Finally when you get to protein, there are proteases enzymes.
All of these have to be released in the digestive juices and bile by the pancreas. Again, it’s a process none of us really
think about unless you have a digestive disease.
We know that this can be interrupted and not as smooth as necessary, whether it’s previous antibiotic use, whether it’s
pesticides, whether is exposure to Roundup glyphosate, whether it’s taking medicine for heartburn issues like the very
common proton pump inhibitors and H2 blockers, you can buy in drug stores over the counter. All these processes
can be interrupted. Age itself, we may not make digestive enzymes as efficiently.
One way on the path of restoring digestive health, which is basically total body health, is to augment digestive enzymes.
You can eat foods that have digestive enzymes in them or you can take them as supplements. They will be, again, en-
zymes that break down fat, lipases, enzymes that break down complex carbohydrates, amylases, enzymes that break
down proteins, proteases. On the field of enzymes, as you keep going, there’s some very, very cool enzymes from the
natural world that do overlap with what I do in my cardiology clinic.
THYROID
Dr. Daniel Nuzum: Bacopa, bacopa’s real interesting in that bacopa is very helpful for both the nervous system and
brain health, but also for thyroid function. If the thyroid function drops, everything, every function in the body drops.
Let’s say the thyroid drops in 10% in its function. That means your brain drops 10% in function. Your heart drops 10% in
function. Your muscles, your liver, your kidneys, your intestines, you’re going to lose 10% of the function of everything
else in your body. Anything that supports the thyroid is usually beneficial.

VITAMIN D
Dr. Sruti Lam: On a daily basis, seven out of my nine or 10 patients all have Vitamin D deficiencies and the rest have
insufficiency. Why do we have that? Vitamin D is called the sunshine vitamin, and it’s enhanced when we go out in the
sun. However, it does not happen at every part of the day.
The best time to absorb Vitamin D into your body is before 10:00AM and after 5:00PM. That’s when the UV rays are
not as much, and you can actually absorb Vitamin D into your body. Other sources of absorbing Vitamin D are through
food. Vitamin D is present in a lot of fish and eggs and nuts and seeds. But our diet does not consist of these on a daily
basis and that’s why we need to supplement with Vitamin D.
Vitamin D is required in producing a lot of the hormones in our body. It’s required in the production of our thyroid
hormones or adrenal hormones, our female hormones and our male hormones. So deficiency of Vitamin D can cause
a deficiency of these hormones. Vitamin D is also required for cholesterol metabolism, so when we don’t have enough
Vitamin D, the metabolism of cholesterol does not happen, and so we just have a lot of fat oxidation in ourselves, and
just are just putting on weight because of that, because of increased serum cholesterol in our body.
Vitamin D boosts your energy in your body, so a deficiency of Vitamin D can cause fatigue, can cause sluggishness, can
cause brain fog. That’s why we recommend using Vitamin D.
Vitamin D is better absorbed with Vitamin K2 because it actually helps get into our blood vessels properly, and both
of these are fat soluble vitamins. Because they’re fat soluble vitamins, they can be absorbed synergistically, Vitamin
D3 and K2 together. So, all my patients have a maintenance dose of at least 2000 international units, and when you’re
deficient, I start them as high as 5000 or I can go all the way to 10,000 for a certain amount of weeks, depending on
how their metabolism is, depending on how their gut health is, depending how their liver health is, and how they’re
absorbing it or detoxing it.
FEMALE HORMONES — SUPPLEMENTS
Dr. John Dempster: I think it’s really important to have a core multivitamin that’s almost a whole food multivitamin.
You want it blended with certain botanical extracts if you can. Antioxidants that are going to be plant based. If you
can get that into your formula with all of your core minerals, and your core B vitamins and other antioxidants, that’s
going to be really, really powerful.
That to me, just again, covers a lot of bases right off the bat. If we’re working on just giving some generic support for
females and their hormones, we want to make sure that we are working with different types of female adaptogens.
That can be anything that’s going to support your adrenal glands or your different estrogens and progesterones.
But it’s also, let’s not forget, women need testosterone, too. Just because men are generally linked to testosterone
doesn’t mean that women don’t need it for libido and arousal, and just strong day-to-day living and feeling and having
your mojo.
Things like tribulus or dong quai. These are other great things we can do.
ENDOMETRIOSIS AND ESSENTIAL OILS
Dr. Mariza Snyder: So I’ve been working with a lot of women for the last 10 years who’ve dealt with all different
types of reproductive issues from horrible PMS to PCOS, to endometriosis. And the main thing that I see there, kind
of the underlying cause of a lot of that is inflammation. So my thought is how do we treat that cause? And a lot of the

synthetic drugs on the market aren’t really addressing that at all. They’re just kind of masking those symptoms. And
what I love about essential oils is at their core, not only are they adaptogenic, but a lot of them are anti-inflammatory.
So I developed blends and protocols that have helped women. I’m talking about thousands and tens of thousands of
women where I’ve used these protocols. So one of my favorite blends is called my Superwoman blend. And it’s specif-
ically designed for PMS and for PCOS.
And that blend is usually a 10ml roller. It’s got a lot of oils in it, but they’re totally worth it, and every single one of them
plays a role. Clary sage, lavender, geranium, bergamot, and ylang ylang. Now, the two big players in that blend are
going to be clary sage and lavender, and they are both powerfully anti-inflammatory. Not only that, they’re natural
analgesic, so they’re pain relievers, and that’s what analgesic means, and they’re great for reducing inflammation and
reducing muscle spasms or pain in that area. So what I love to recommend is that anytime women are experiencing
that pain... well, most importantly, if they are dealing with PMS or hormonal changes and they feel like things are im-
balanced, I recommend using that Superwoman blend every single day, morning and evening. Being consistent with
it, because as your hormones are shifting throughout the month, it’s helping to create balance with those hormones,
especially estrogen and progesterone.
The oils in this blend are designed to actually work with those two hormones that they work in synergy with each
other, instead of one dominating the other. Like maybe you’re dealing with estrogen dominance. Now when it comes
to polycystic ovary syndrome, we’re talking about there’s multiple different types of polycystic ovary syndrome, but
we’re still talking about inflammation and we’re still talking about discomfort. And so, anytime a woman’s experienc-
ing discomfort, I just have them apply that blend over the area of concern and we know it reduces pain and reduces
inflammation. And even over time significantly reduces those symptoms. And then, the last one is Endometriosis. And
what we know about endometriosis is that it’s the immune system really overreacting to that endometrial tissue. So
how can we get the immune system to get back online? Well, two other oils that I bring into play there, especially for
painful cramps or painful endometriosis pain, it’s going to be frankincense and copaiba.
Now, frankincense and copaiba are very, very powerful terpenes. They are sesquiterpenes, and monoterpenes. They’re
phenomenal for reducing inflammation and significant for reducing severe pain in the area. So I usually do a combina-
tion of frankincense, copaiba, lavender, and clary sage. And for all of the women I’ve worked with for endometriosis,
it has been a godsend. Now, most importantly, when you’re applying these oils inside of a roller, or maybe they’re
neat, I think one of the best ways to really get into the tissue and to help support that inflammation is using castor oil
packs. So what I normally recommend is a woman applies the oils over her ovaries and uterus, which is about three
and a half inches below the belly button. So just really lather it on, and then take castor oil, apply it, and then put over
like a pack. Either it’s a like a warming pack or just a pack where they can have that for 20 minutes to maybe even
overnight. And that not only does castor oil have its own inflammatory and immune boosting properties, but it helps
to drive those oils even deeper into the tissue. So, to me, it’s an extra benefit.
Dr. Olivia Joseph: I think magnesium is a very important mineral that many people are deficient in, and it can lead
to a lot of those PMS, bloating, weepy, cramping type symptoms. They seem so hard to resolve, conventionally, right?
But when you look at these things functionally, they’re not that hard to approach.
So, one that you mentioned was PCOS. With PCOS, it’s very important that you look at blood sugar, cortisol levels, pro-
gesterone and testosterone. Because with PCOS, you’ve got sugar mixing with testosterone, that doesn’t necessarily
mean that testosterone is high, it just could mean that progesterone levels are too low.

So, conventionally, how PCOS is treated, is a drug called Metformin, which is used for diabetes and birth control. Well,
if you’re trying to do things naturally, that’s not really the approach you want, but you can certainly naturally improve
blood sugar and progesterone levels.
LIVER CLEANSING AND MENSTRUAL CYCLE
Dr. Sruti Lam: The liver is also the seat for any menstrual irregularities, and a great herb we use for that is red rasp-
berry. I know raspberry, when we think about it, we think of the juicy berry, but what we really use is the red raspberry
leaf. Red raspberry leaf is a great uterine tonic, as well, and it helps cleanse not just the liver but also the uterus, and
it actually helps normalize and harmonize the female hormones. So, red raspberry is great in using as a liver cleanse,
as well.
So milk thistle, dandelion, red raspberry. Yarrow is another bulking herb that is great in cleansing and pushing things
out of our body. By cleansing the liver, you’re also cleansing the skin. Acne, eczema, psoriasis, any other kind of rash,
wrinkles. All of that is purified by cleansing your liver.
So, liver cleansing is essential and we do a lot of liver cleansing for helping with weight loss, for any kind of cardio-
vascular health, for people who have a lot of mental fog, brain fog, stress and anxiety, cleansing the liver will be very
useful. For any kind of PMS that women really have before their menstrual cycle, for balancing out your hormones,
for night sweats, hot flashes, any kind of menopausal symptoms, the liver is the place of detoxifying.
DETOXIFICATION AND ESSENTIAL OILS
Dr. Mariza Snyder: So when it comes to detoxification, I think the number one thing that we’ve got to do is avoidance.
I had a great friend of mine; an environmental toxin expert who told me how we solve the toxicity issue is we avoid
them all together. What I know to be true is that the average woman is exposed to about 100 plus chemicals every
single day by simply using her personal care products, by simply cleaning our house, by simply moving around her
home. We’re being exposed to that. It’s not only the women that it’s happening too. It’s everyone inside of the family. I
was thinking, how do we leverage the power of essential oils to actually create non-toxic products? You can make over
your entire cleaning cabinet, your green cleaning cabinet, and your personal care items with just a couple of essential
oils and some main ingredients.
For example, in terms of green cleaning, all you need is essential oils like citruses. Like lemon or grapefruit, tea tree
oil, oregano oil, maybe even lavender, baking soda, vinegar, distilled water, and you’re pretty much set. You can pretty
much make over any cleaning products with those ingredients. Pretty much everyone has those ingredients in their
home at any given time. There are recipes all over the internet. You want an all-purpose spray; you want a toilet bowl
cleaner. Anything. You want a countertop cleaner? It’s all there with those five ingredients and that’s it. Then when
it comes to personal care, it’s so easy to make over those products as well. I think about anti-aging regimens, using
oils like jasmine, roman chamomile, and rose. Which all have powerful anti-aging properties that you can just apply
to your skin with a little bit of coconut oil. Or maybe you make up a beautiful cream. Again, there are so many great
recipes online.
I have a lot of them in my books. So that people feel confident knowing that they can swap out these synthetic toxic
products for something more natural that’s basically do it yourself. Now if you wanted to go a little bit deeper, maybe
you decided that you know what? I know that I need a makeover all of this, which it’s super easy to do. But there are
also oils that you can actually use to support your liver. One of my favorite things is recommending people do a detox
bath. Even once a week, and that’s a simple thing to do. Not only does it feel a little bit like a luxury because it’s like
self-care. Well, it’s not kind of self-care, it’s definitely self-care. What I normally recommend with a detox bath is right

before dry brushing, and when it comes to dry brushing I usually recommend grapefruit and cypress. Because those
two oils not only are great for circulation, but they’re great for moving lymphatics.
So you apply those oils with a little bit of coconut oil on your skin, do some dry brushing, and then get into a detox soak.
Usually that combines... that’s going to come by an apple cider vinegar; it’s going to combine Epsom salts, sea salt. And
then my favorite oils for helping to support the liver are rosemary, ginger, geranium, and grapefruit. And if you just do
two to three drops of each in the dry ingredients, like with the Epsom salts and you soak in that for 20 minutes, you are
going to ensure that you’re detoxifying the body. So that’s one of my favorite ways to simply do that. There’s a lot of
different ways that you can bring oils into the system, especially to support the liver, but those four oils are kind of the
mainstay for helping to flush out the liver, help to support its function, and ensure that your body’s working properly.
Jonathan Otto: As we’ve discussed, the role of our endocrine system is to produce hormones that control much of
bodily functions. They define the way our heart beats, how our bones and bodies grow, how we metabolize sugar,
change calories into energy and our ability to have children. Producing too little or too much then we are meant to
can cause an array of discomfort and malaise and unfortunately can lead to infertility and some very serious illnesses
as well.
Hormones disorders may be caused from smoking, excessive alcohol or illicit drug use, a poor diet, extreme weight
loss or gain, exposure to chemicals, heavy metals and pesticides, high physical or emotional stress or trauma, envi-
ronmental toxins, including pesticides and lead, as well as parasites and prescription medication.
As Dr. Olivia Joseph stated, “When if you get a good history on somebody, you see these hormonal imbalances have
been there for decades.”
In this episode we have shared what we ourselves have learned and put into practice to reverse the conditions cre-
ated by these decades of hormonal abnormalities. We want to leave you today with the message that there is hope.
It is possible to naturally regulate hormonal imbalances and heal from hormone related illnesses. We wish you great
health and joy.
DR. RAQUEL YARROCH: PERSONAL TESTIMONY — HELPING OTHER PEOPLE
Dr. Raquel Yarroch: So now I’m starting to put that program to it, so now I’m starting to take on patients and helping
them put their body through it. So, I’m first working on getting tests and running tests, so you’re not guessing, you’re
going to test and find out what’s going on in your body, what- how do we need to help, but you also have to look at
the whole picture. So you’ve gotta look at everything that’s going on in your life and help them figure out how they
need to heal, ‘cause not everybody’s the same, everybody’s unique and you have to treat them as a unique person.
TAKEAWAY
Dr. Raquel Yarroch: One is you got to take a step back and look at your life. If you were talking to your best friend and
they were having that conversation with you, what would you give them for advice? And then to learn to apply that in
your life. So you have to take a look at first, the stress, what’s some of the stressors that are going on? Is there some-
thing you can do to control the stressors, or something you can shift or change. And even learning even the aspects
of just doing meditation or just learning to breathe, learning to stop and pause for a second. Learning to restructure
how your morning begins, your evening begins or ends. So things that you can start there. Learning to focus on even

making sure you get your sleep at night. Consistent time that you go to bed, and a consistent time you wake up, just
get your body into some consistency.
And then sometimes the biggest thing is, what’s your most favorite food that you couldn’t live without? That’s the one
to get rid of first, much as it will suck, but that’s probably going to be one of the most, usually the food that you love
the most is generally going to be the food that causes you the most problems. Your body will make you crave that, or
whatever organisms are going on, they help crave that.
Jonathan Otto: I understand.
Dr. Raquel Yarroch: You got it. So generally that’s the one food group you have to take out. So usually when I talked
with patients, it can be anything from coffee to dairy or cheese or bread or chocolate and maybe the chocolate isn’t
necessarily a no no. But guess what it’s got in it? Milk and other processed stuff. And so you want to take that stuff out
of your diet, and just take even seven days and just be like, okay, so how do you feel after seven days taking it out. May
the first couple you’re going to be a bear, because you want your fix. But you have got to let it go and just get through it.
CULTURED FOODS
John Schott: So also, cultured foods are very important for that, and of course cleaning up the diet, your natural eating
patterns. So, everybody’s different, and everybody’s in a different stage of the game here. Some people are coming
from a fast food diet, and they require other steps than somebody who’s been dealing with this stuff for a long time.
And maybe because they’ve been so focused on being extremely healthy and pure, that maybe they’ve taken the right
salts and the right minerals out of their diets, and now we have to recover them from that and integrate some other
things. So, it depends. Everybody’s in a different state. I tried to make sure that the people don’t have to be loaded
with too many things, but sometimes you need them.

EPISODE 5
DETOXING: THE ELIMINATION PATHWAYS
THE GUT: LEAKY GUT, PARASITES, AND MICROBIOME
Jonathan Otto: The expression goes “You are what you eat” but it would be far more accurate to say, “You are what
you can absorb”. I will explain…
Many people are still struggling with nutrient deficiency related issues, such as low energy or chronic Fatigue, weight
gain, a leaky gut, chronic inflammation, unhealthy blood sugar levels and ongoing battles with other related conditions
and diseases — this despite consistently making healthy choices.
And when we are still not seeing any changes, understandably we become consumed by feelings of great disappoint-
ment and hopelessness. How can this be? — If we fuel our bodies with what it truly needs why aren’t we seeing the
results we have earned.
The reasons may be some you have not considered. There may be a number of things preventing your body from
being able to properly absorb and benefit as you should from those great nutrients you are ingesting. The function of
the digestive system is to break down food into tiny molecules, which are then absorbed into the body. The presence
of parasites, heavy metals and toxins in the body, inhibit the digestive system from functioning as it should.
But there is great news, there is hope. This is where detoxification comes in. Although detox can be challenging, and
people often feel worse before they feel better, the body’s ability to eliminate successfully is imperative to achieving
and maintaining good health.
We will share with you the many important roles the gut plays on your mental and physical health and you will dis-
cover that by eliminating hazardous invaders, indigestible toxins and metabolic wastes through natural detoxifying
methods you can restore your health, feel better than ever and finally achieve the goals you have been working so
long and hard for.
TESTING — PEGGY’S TESTIMONY
Jonathan Otto: So what are we doing here with Peggy right now?
Dr. Daryl Gioffre: So today I’m excited because we are going to be testing Peggy’s live blood. So the difference between
this and conventional blood testing is that conventional blood testing, which is important, is measuring the quantity
of blood. You have this many red blood cells, this many white blood cells, this is your Vitamin D level, this is your liver
enzymes. What we’re looking here is that the blood in real time.
So we’re going to take a drop of blood from the fingertip. We’re going to put it under the microscope. We’re going to
magnify to twenty five thousand times and on this HD screen here, we’re going to be actually seeing her blood in real
time. The red blood cells which is what carries your hemoglobin, which is your oxygen carrying capacity of the blood.
We’re going to be seeing the white blood cells which is really the immune defense. We’ll see them ideally moving and
morphing. For some people you see them, what’s called non-viable white blood cells, where they just sit there being

stagnant because the blood is toxic. So the third thing we’re going to be seeing is something we call leaky gut. Toxins
that get into the blood, via the gut, and we will actually see them. We’ll see things like inflammation.
So there are a whole slew of things that we can see. We’re just going to kind of validate it. We’re going to take fifty
to seventy five digital pictures and from that we’ll what we’ll do is we’ll create a protocol based on what the blood
shows us. If I see something in the blood once, it’s not a real big issue. If I see something in the blood over, and over,
and over Peggy, then that becomes significant. What we want to do is put you on a protocol to clean up those things
because we’re looking for two things. What’s toxic in your blood but also what your blood needs that it’s not getting.
What deficiencies are there?
So you don’t have to say a single word to me. The blood tells the entire story. And based on this what we want to do is
create a protocol to take where you’re at right now in terms of your health to the next level. Now the lifespan of your
red blood cells is a hundred and twenty days. So what we’ll do is come back in four months, after the protocol starts,
and we’ll retest your blood and objectively, the blood never lies remember that, you should see some very positive
changes. And if we need to tweak, and as we go along we’ll do that, it’s incredible because just based on this we can
really assess the function of how your body’s doing.
GUT HEALTH — DIGESTIVE & AUTOIMMUNE
Dr. Joel Fuhrman: Just another interesting story. I’ve been doing this for so many years, lots of great stories to tell.
Some are a little bit more upsetting than others. I’ve had many patients. I had patients who were waiting in the hos-
pital for their colon to be removed from ulcerative colitis and on the phone with them I said, “Come into my facility,
you’ll stay in my house, you’ll stay with me for three months. Let’s see if we can save your colon before you just have
it cut out.” You know? And so, this person who came to live in my house, this was about 20 years ago, this is before
my second daughter was born. And he was living in one of the bedrooms. I had people living in my basement, I had
people living in the upstairs bedroom, because I wanted to help these people, you know?
So, I fasted him a while, I fed him just a zucchini diet, I gave him probiotics and I gave him high fatty acids. And I nursed
him back to health, saved his colon, and got rid of his ulcerative colitis. So many people got rid of their lupus; so many
people got rid of their psoriasis, psoriatic arthritis, rheumatoid arthritis, recoveries from multiple sclerosis, and re-
coveries from Sjogren’s syndrome. Look at Venus Williams who’s talking about that that she recovered from Sjogren’s
syndrome and went back on the tennis tour again.
What I’m saying right now is that when you go to a rheumatologist with these diseases that can ruin your life, they’re
putting you on chemotherapeutic agents that are in the same classification of drugs that they use for people who have
cancer. These drugs cause cancer. These drugs shorten people’s lifespan. And they’re given these drugs as if there’s
no other option to get well. And I would scream this from the rooftops, I’d love to have a platform on the front page
of Time magazine, whatever it is, or the New York Times, autoimmune diseases get well from nutritional excellence.
And so, there are data in the medical literature on this, the scientific literature. Not a lot of data, but there’s enough
data to have people get some support. And I’ve personally published some of these papers on the cases we’ve done
with people. But I love the opportunity to take people under my wing who have autoimmune diseases so they can
get well. And it takes time sometimes. Don’t forget, it takes three months just to get your nutrients and your tissues
from being deficient to safe or adequate. And then to get them from safe or adequate to an excellent level of nutrient
levels in your tissues, we measure them on people. It takes six months. So, we don’t expect these recoveries to happen
overnight. We got to flood the body with nutrients, we got to gradually wean them down off the medication so they
don’t flare up again, but routinely it’s more predictable that these people get well and make full recoveries.
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GUT HEALTH
Jonathan Otto: You do have a sophisticated network of 100 million nerve cells embedded in your gut wall, a network
so extensive, it’s been called your second brain and like the brain, the gut’s nervous system is home to over 30 neu-
rotransmitters which transmit signals from one nerve cell to another. It may sound surprising, but about 90% of the
crucial neurotransmitter serotonin is produced in your gut, not in your brain.
Serotonin influences mood along with sleep, digestion, sexual function and memory. Perhaps you already know that
scientists have linked low serotonin levels to depression. Common drugs such as SSRS are prescribed in an effort to
ease depression by blocking the reabsorption of serotonin, making more of it available to the body. The microbiome
or community of bacteria and other microbes in your gut exerts a powerful influence on brain health. A 2012 review
published in Nature Reviews, neuroscience studies suggest that the gut’s microbiome plays a role in regulating anxiety,
mood, cognition, and even pain. Since there’s a bi-directional pathway between the brain and the gut’s microbiome,
altering microbes in the gut has been shown to play a role in several neuropsychiatric disorders, anxiety, depression,
autism, and schizophrenia to name a few. A number of studies have shown that people with various psychological
disorders have different species of bacteria in their guts compared to healthy people.
Since the gut has such a powerful effect on both your mental and physical health, our team of expert doctors recom-
mend a comprehensive detoxification protocol. This is particularly important if you already have a mood disorder such
as depression or anxiety or any chronic condition fueled by unhealthy levels of inflammation or autoimmune over
activity. No matter how healthy your diet or lifestyle may be, your body is challenged daily by an accumulation of para-
sites, environmental toxins, and waste that bog down your organs of detoxification and clog up your colon. Giving your
organs the gift of a detoxification protocol on a regular basis takes the pressure off them and allows them to restore
to normal. The recommended detoxification protocol by our expert doctors address three factors that impact not only
gut and overall health, but mental health as well. Parasites, heavy metals and other toxins, and a waste filled colon.
4 R’S: REMOVE, REPLACE, RE-INOCULATE, AND REPAIR
Dr. Jeffrey Bland: Yeah, thank you. The first thing that we really, I think, came up with, which was a clinically applicable
concept related to function and functional medicine, was what we later called the Four R Program. I think I probably
labeled it Four R and then later people said, “Well, yeah, I can remember Four R’s. That sounds reasonable.” So those
Four R’s stand for remove, replace, re-inoculate, and repair.
We then started clinically testing the first R, which is remove pathogens, remove parasites, and remove food allergens.
The second R, which is replace. Replace digestive enzymes and acidity so that you can acidify the chime which is the
digestive material as the food travels through the intestinal tract. The third R is re-inoculate, which means give the
pre and probiotics to re-inoculate with the friendly critters. And then the fourth R is repair which is give the nutrients
of pantothenic acid, zinc, Vitamin E, glutamine that are known to help repair the gut mucosal integrity. So that led us
into doing a whole series of lectures for docs who’d never heard this concept about how these things all work. What’s
the science that interlies, and what’s the research, the clinical outcome? Everything from IBD to IBS and how the gut is
really the leader that is the immune system. We were the first group I think that started saying that the gut represents
80% of the immune system, the so called gastrointestinal associated lymphoid tissue or GALT.
We started really studying the fact that 80% of our antibodies in our blood come from the gut associated immune
system and how that then relates to the things that we eat and how the microbes are nourished and how they influ-
ence the rest of the body. So, it was not just a localized effect on the gut, but it could be systemic. Everything from the
liver to the insulin secreting cells to the brain itself.

I would not claim that we invented it. I would claim that we kind of made this more practical and understandable, put
the science under it and now it just amazes me to look around the world while I’m traveling and see how many people
are doing what we called for our program, but really is this gastrointestinal restoration.
Jonathan Otto: Awesome. I love how you’ve distilled that and made it easy to comprehend. Four Rs? And you call it
the four Rs?
Dr. Jeffrey Bland: Four R, yes. Remove, replace, re-inoculate, repair. Those are the four Rs. Each one can be done
either sequentially or simultaneously. I mean, a lot of people say, do I need to take a week of each R? No, you can do
these, or you can remove while you’re replacing and re-inoculating, so it really makes a practical clinical program. In
fact, I’m often asked over the last 30 years if a person, a practitioner, was to start somewhere, where would they start?
And I said, “This is the place to start because you will have dramatic clinical positive outcome in patients across a whole
range of different clinical problems if you implement this program, and it’s not that hard to implement.”
GUT HEALTH
Dr. John Dempster: You know what the number one thing is?
Jonathan Otto: What?
Dr. John Dempster: People aren’t having regular bowel movements. Constipation is chronic that I see. The definition
of constipation is going less than twice a day. Think of how many people listening right now are saying, “Oh, I’m normal.
I’m having one bowel movement a week.” I had a guy come into my clinic not too long ago that told me that he was
having normal bowel movements. When I ... I quizzed him on this. I said, “Well, what is normal to you?” He said, “Well,
once every two weeks.” I said, “Okay, well, we’re going to talk about this a little bit more,” because this is very powerful.
This is often a rate-limiting step to help people from healing.
Jonathan Otto: What was he doing that was causing that issue for him?
Dr. John Dempster: This particular individual had a huge history of pharmaceutical medications. He wasn’t eating foods
that were rich in good fiber, so soluble fibers, insoluble fibers. Sometimes we always just think about that Metamucil.
I don’t know what you have in Australia but that’s a very common one here in North America. This individual was not
eating enough servings of fruit and vegetables in a day. Really, we want to be getting 10 servings of organic vegetables,
primarily, with a couple servings of fruit.
Jonathan Otto: Amazing. That gives the fiber and it’s obviously giving other nutrients, but that’s its own natural de-
toxification, correct?
Dr. John Dempster: Correct, yeah.
PROBLEM AREAS: LEAKY GUT, PARASITES, AND MICROBIOME
Jonathan Otto: What if the ancient concepts that illness begins in the gut were actually right? This is precisely what
scientists and doctors are discovering today as more and more studies confirm chronic diseases faced by today’s so-
ciety are associated with a flawed gastrointestinal system. This condition is known as leaky gut syndrome.
It is already known that a leaky gut is responsible for celiac disease, Crohn’s disease, and irritable bowel syndrome and
now these same studies are providing data stating that changes in the gut flora and triggered inflammation caused
by a Leaky gut may be responsible in the development of several other chronic conditions, in the growing rates of
obesity, the increased cases of allergies or food sensitivities and several autoimmune diseases — Amongst them are;
MS, lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, type 1 diabetes, chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia, asthma, and chronic skin
conditions like eczema and psoriasis.
Due to the brain/gut connection studies are attributing an unhealthy gut to mental illness and depression, as well as
cognitive issues such as brain fog, confusion and dementia. Researchers are announcing that the culprit to a leaky gut
may be due to the following factors. Long term, heightened stress levels, heavy alcohol consumption, increased use of
prescription medications and finally a poor standard American diet — increasingly low in fiber and high in saturated
fats and sugars.
TESTING — PEGGY’S ANALYSIS
Dr. Daryl Gioffre: So what we’re going to do — are you a righty or a lefty?
Peggy: I’m a righty.
Dr. Daryl Gioffre: Okay, is there a lounge. Okay so let’s take this actually. Feet flat on the ground and just going to go
like this. You’re going to feel a little poke. Just going to relax that finger. So within this one drop of blood we will have
literally millions of cells. Do you know what your blood type is?
Peggy: A Negative.
Dr. Daryl Gioffre: Okay, good. So we always clean off the first one, so we get a nice clean sample. She’s got pretty good
flow. So I’m going to take my cover slide here, we’re going to get a little drop of the blood. You have got to be very careful
to do this the right way. Okay, so there’s our live blood sample. We’re going to get one other blood sample. So while
we’re looking at the live blood, what we’re going to do is take a dry blood sample. We’re going to let this sit for thirty
seconds and what we’re doing is accelerating the aging process of the blood. We’re looking at how inflammation is af-
fecting your blood. If there are heavy elements in the blood, things like heavy metals, what we’ll find is that they’ll settle
towards the outskirts of the blood. We can see things like inflammation of the gut, if the body is stripping magnesium
from the muscles or calcium from the bones to neutralize acid in the blood, this will show us. So there are all different
signs that we’ll see. So we’ll let this sit on the side if you look at the live blood and then we’ll look at this afterwards.
Peggy: Great.
Dr. Daryl Gioffre: I have some cool posters here which kind of tell the whole story behind you.
Peggy: What we could do is we could put it over there, right? And then point it out in case...
Dr. Daryl Gioffre: Yeah that good and then bring that finger back to me. Okay so just let it drop right there. Just rest it
right here. What I like to do is take two samples of this for reproducibility. So I’m going to get one more slide. Relax the
hand all the way. Good. We’re going to let that sit for another thirty seconds. I’ll show you what the ideal blood should
look like and then what; I’ll give you an example of what my dad’s blood looked like two months before he died. I was
testing his blood every two months. What it did is it really gave us a way of dialing in what was really going on with his
body and how his body was responding to the treatments we were doing.
Again, the doctors gave him a few months to live and he lived almost three years. I’m confident the live blood analy-
sis told us....when we first looked at his blood, his blood was like stagnant. His white blood cells, they weren’t doing

anything because cancer secretes an enzyme called nagalase, which shuts down your white blood cells, which you
probably know about. We put him on a supplement called salicinium which basically blocks that enzyme. Then we did
something to increase the white blood cell activation, it’s called GcMAF. Gc protein-derived macrophage activating
factor, where you have a high chlorophyll diet. He was doing wheat grass shots every day; he was doing our alkaline
daily greens three times a day, which is high in wheat grass. Between that, it was amazing, we started seeing those
white blood cells moving and doing their job.
DETOXING; PARASITES; CANDIDA
Dr. John Dempster: The other thing that a lot of us forget is that it’s not about the toxins that we always breathe; it’s
about the toxins that are released within us. I’ve touched on some of these organisms, such as yeast or bacteria. What
happens if we start to kill some of these organisms? We often think it’s a good thing, but we’ve got to make sure that
our body can keep up with the toxins as they’re being released. Often, you’ll hear of a healing crisis or a Herxheimer
reaction. Well, that can sometimes be mitigated if we open up the natural emunctories and the natural detox pathways
to get the floodgates prepared so that we can start to bring out some of this debris that really has been stored for too
long, but we don’t want to have a tsunami of it all at once, either.
Jonathan Otto: If you could define that Herxheimer reaction?
Dr. John Dempster: The Herxheimer reaction is traditionally known as a die-off reaction where, if we’re going in and
we’re helping somebody eradicate candida, for example, a very common thing we all hear about. Candida is a yeast
overgrowth. If we take an antifungal, whether it be natural or pharmaceutical based, if you kill a lot of these organisms
at once, you can actually feel like flu, you’ve got a flu coming on. You can feel brain fog. It’s absolutely the opposite of
what we’re trying to do, so we’ve got to educate people that there’s lots of resources that we read about online, lots
of books that are out there, but we’ve got to educate people that it’s not about rushing. I don’t know about you, but I
like to move fast, I like to get things done but, when it comes to your health, we’ve got to make sure that we are also
working at a speed and a pace that the rest of your body can keep up with.
A Herxheimer reaction is moving too quickly. It means that you’re creating a bigger die-off that your body can deal
with. We don’t want to actually flood the plains too quickly. We want to actually have a slow trickle so that your body
can keep up.
Jonathan Otto: When it comes to the detoxification of heavy metals and parasites, if the digestive tract isn’t working
properly, then you’re going to be stuck with some of these elements now floating in your system, in maybe worse
places than what they were before because, if you’re pulling them out of the organs and the bones, now they’re back
in the bloodstream.
Dr. John Dempster: Really.
Jonathan Otto: They’re ... Is there a problem there that then creates if somebody is not doing things in the right order?
Dr. John Dempster: In my book, we talk about getting the foundation laid. The foundation is getting your gut working
properly. This is really where we need to establish, because if you ... Again, just as you said, if we start flooding our
body, our bloodstream, our kidney’s with all this debris, whether it be heavy metals such as mercury or lead, whether
it be just clearing out a lot of debris that’s been stored in our adipose tissue, if we don’t have that foundation laid,
you’re going to be bringing and recycling a lot of these toxins right back into your bloodstream. In fact, at one point
in your gut, the cells are one cell away from your bloodstream. That is a very close neighbor. We ought to make sure
that, if that is disrupted in any way, we got to heal and seal that first.
BREAST CANCER — ENEMAS ESSENTIAL OILS AND DETOX FROM PARASITES
Jonathan: Beautiful. I love that. Thank you. And now I think finally, if you could maybe even list out, you use a lot of
different natural herbs and medicines for your healing journey. If you could just maybe list out, take five minutes here
with me and list out what you used and why you use it.
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Okay. So what I did on my second healing journey, I basically followed my program, 7
Essentials System. For number six I did high dose Vitamin C. I used the RGCC test to see what natural extracts would
work best for me. That included everything from corsatin to resveratrol. I also used pancreatic enzymes, high dose
pancreatic enzymes. I made sure that I had a lot of trace minerals like selenium, magnesium, and zinc. I used plenty of
herbal supplements. I used a lot of mushrooms, like agaricus mushrooms. I did use PolyMBA. And I alternated; I didn’t
stay on the same program for the three years. I would switch them every month. So there was less... Because cancer
cells can become resistant to even natural remedies. So if you rotate things on a regular basis, then you’re removing
that risk of the cancer cells becoming accustomed to or resisting those natural treatments.
Jonathan: Got It. So you mentioned a few, I’m just going to force you to share a few more with me, because I know
you’ve got more up your sleeve.
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Oh my goodness. You should see my cabinet, yes. Let me think here about everything I
did. I hadn’t... I mean I’m still taking a lot of things so...
Jonathan: Probiotics, D3 plus K2, turmeric, ginger
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Yes, yes.
Jonathan: You say it.
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Okay. So turmeric, yeah, curcumin with bioperine. What else did you say?
Jonathan: D3, K2...
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Oh yeah, Vitamin D and K2, made sure that my Vitamin D levels were optimal. Iodine.
Used... Oh goodness. What am I still taking? So BRM4, which is actually a fermentation of rice bran with shiitake, mush-
rooms in it. Broccoli sprouts. Broccoli sprouts, so powerful, dehydrated broccoli sprouts, because we know that it’s got
sulforaphane and it helps with the detoxification pathways and it affects breast cancer stem cells.
Then that’s something that’s not really addressed. The doctor will tell you that you’re cancer free, right? They don’t see
anything on the scan, they don’t see anything in the blood. And they send women home and say you’re cancer free.
But what they’re not addressing are the breast cancer stem cells and the circulating tumor cells. So you’ve got to take
it one step further and be very proactive about that. And there are specific things that will attack those breast cancer
stem cells and keep them at bay. So a concentration of blueberries, resveratrol, dark chocolate, there are nutrients
in dark chocolate that can help that. Sulforaphane from broccoli sprouts, corsatin, curcumin, and all those things will
help to keep those breast cancer cells at bay.
Jonathan: That’s awesome. Omega-3, did you use Omega-3s?
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Yes, yes.
Jonathan: Fish oil?
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Yeah, I use fish oil, I use essential oils.

Jonathan: Like what?
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Oh, frankincense, German chamomile. What else did I use? A combination of lavender,
and that’s called the healthy breast oil. So it’s a combination of different things, things like limonene and citronene
from citrus. So I used a lot of things.
Jonathan: Awesome. Now did you do coffee enemas?
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Oh, coffee enemas. So important. Yes. I did them every day through my healing journey.
Now I do them maybe two or three times a week. But definitely got to keep that liver flowing.
Jonathan: Do you like to do water first and then... No? You go straight?
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Yeah. Just go straight to coffee and-
Jonathan: Say if someone’s having a hard time, water first, and then
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Right, because it cleans it out. Yeah.
Jonathan: And it can make people hold it for longer. But then do you hold the coffee in your system for 15 minutes?
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Yeah. 15, 20 minutes. And I like to add wheat grass to my coffee enemas. Sometimes
you can even add
Jonathan: Grass in there. Grass in the ass
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: I hadn’t thought about that. Yes. You can even put, if you have problems with cramping
and not holding it properly, you can put magnesium flakes in there, and it’ll help to relax the intestine.
Jonathan: Yeah. Yeah. So people, they get it in they’re like, “Ahh, I’m going to explode,” straight away.
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Right.
Jonathan: So magnesium flakes.
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Yeah.
Jonathan: Perfect. Fantastic. So you did that. Any detoxification herbs or minerals or... Obviously coffee enemas, the
number one thing is to detox, right?
Jonathan: Quickly explain why and how that works with coffee enemas and then go on to any other detox herbs.
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Okay. Coffee enema is not so much to clean out the colon because really you’re only
getting the fluid in four to six inches of the colon, but it’s absorbed through the backdoor, so to speak, through the
intestinal wall, and it goes through the portal vein into the liver, and it causes the liver and bile to flush. So you’re
stimulating that liver and you’re pushing bile salts out of the gallbladder. So it’s very, very cleansing. Plus it increases
the glutathione production by several hundred percent. So it’s a great, great cleansing tool.
A lot of other things that I did, saunas, and infra-red saunas are very important. Laying on a mat several times a week
to help with the grounding. I also used a bio mat with the infrared heat and the negative ions that help to clean out
the lymphatic system. I did lymphatic cleansing with the XP2 machine. It’s basically two glass tubes with the electrodes
in it, and it’s very interesting, very fascinating because when you rub the tubes in an area where there is no lymphatic
congestion, it just slides over the skin. But where there’s congestion, it gets very sticky. And so they have to keep rub-
bing and rubbing and it breaks up those proteins that are congested in that lymphatic system.
Jonathan: Oh, fantastic. So you use that in combination, you massage the-
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Well the whole body, you go see a therapist that uses that tool. It’s called an XP2 elec-
tro-lymphatic therapy, is what it’s called. Yeah.
Jonathan: Detox herbs?
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: I didn’t use it specifically then.
Jonathan: You used it for minerals, probably?
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Yes. And I used like milk thistle and dandelion. I’m trying to think what else.
Jonathan: Yeah, they’re great ones.
Jonathan: And why did you use milk thistle and dandelion? Or dandelion root?
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Because, yes, because of the liver. Just to make sure, because as you’re killing off cancer
cells, you want to make sure that your liver pathways are very clean and supported. My methylation process, I have
an issue with the MTHFR gene and my glutathione snips are also very weak. So I had to really support those pathways
and I still do.
Jonathan: Fantastic. You continue to take milk thistle and dandelion root?
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: No.
Jonathan: No, it was more for the...
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Yeah, I still do the coffee enemas.
Jonathan: My guess is that you’re probably going to do this periodically, you’ll do these liver type cleanses and things,
obviously keep up with coffee enemas, but maybe yearly or bi-yearly...
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Oh, absolutely. Intermittent fasting. I mean I exercise, watch my diet, do everything I
need to do to stay on top of it.
Jonathan: Parasitic cleanse?
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Yes. Actually yes. Full moon cleanse. Yes. Mimosa Pudica. And then I also have a parasite
cleanse kit that I private label myself.
Jonathan: Great. And do you use, with Mimosa Pudica... Why do you like Mimosa Pudica?
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Well, it’s very sticky and I’ve seen great results. Not too much information there, but yeah,
so it’s, especially when you do it around the full moon because the full moon, your Melatonin is lower and your sero-
tonin is higher and it causes the parasites to be more active. And that’s when you want to get them. So you start your

cleanse several days before the full moon and continue it for a week after. We post pictures in our private Facebook
group and we see a lot of interesting things in the full moon cleanse.
Jonathan: Awesome. Black walnut hulls, wormwood, clove, neem?
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Yes.
Jonathan: Extracts of garlic, extracts of aloe vera?
Jonathan: Any of those ring a bell, and why?
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Yeah, absolutely. Well, we actually recommend doing garlic enemas during the full moon
cleanse because the parasites don’t like the garlic, right? So it helps to expel them even more so.
TESTING – PEGGY’S ANALYSIS
Dr. Daryl Gioffre: Okay, so now we have our dry blood sample. We are ready to look. So we’re going to put a little
immersion oil on top of the blood sample. This is actually not touching your blood. This is going to be on a cover slide
above and what this does, it gives us a nice connection to the microscope so we can see the cells a little bit better. So
the most important thing is that we never contaminate the sample. Watch the screen. And there is your live blood.
These are all your red blood cells.
So the first thing that I’m seeing is- you got it- they’re clumped together. That means there’s something going on with
the charge of the blood. Just like a magnet, when you flip that magnet, how it repels each other. That’s how I want
your cells to look like. This is a condition called Rouleaux it’s a French word, which means coins are stacking. That’s
a sign that there are some digestive imbalances going on. Usually, leaky gut. You can see a little pathogenic bacteria
form right there. Take a picture of that. All on the way, I’m going to capture lots of pictures so we can come back and
look at this and evaluate this a little closer. This is what inflammation looks like guys. See this right here? It’s called a
spreading platelet. A spreading platelet- think about what a platelet does- a platelet stops the blood from bleeding.
When we have excess platelets within the blood, that is what inflammation is. So we can tell just from this first slide
here that there is a bunch of inflammation. What we’ll do is we’ll start to scroll around.
This is a white blood cell right here. It’s called a neutrophil. The neutrophil is the most important white blood cell. It’s
the number one in terms of numbers because what it does it goes around, and it’s morphing and moving, and it does
something called phagocytosis, where it goes and eats up the bad guys. So you want to see, if you look at it closely, he’s
moving around but it’s a little bit slow. It’s a little sluggish. So I want to see it a little bit more active. Again, there are
some toxicities in the blood that we’re going to look for that’s making this work a little harder than it should be working.
It’s like if we have an air conditioner over here and it’s a hot summer day and New York City and the air conditioner has
never been cleaned, the filter. Think about the output that has to come from that unit to basically get the air cooled to
say seventy degrees. Right. We need to clean out the filter so that it can work more efficiently because eventually it’s
going to work so hard, it’s just going to conk, it’s going to burn out, it’s going to conk. And that’s what’s going on here.
As we start to do the detoxification of the blood and here’s a little bacterial. Look at that one right there. See that
bacterial rod right there? Which came from your gut. You’ll see it right here. That’s right there. There it is. See it? See
it right there?
Peggy: So what is it again?
Dr. Daryl Gioffre: It’s a bacterial rod. It’s a pathogenic form, it’s a bacterial form, that came from the gut and it got into
the blood. We’ll follow it and it’s...bacteria’s a parasite so it feeds on stuff in the blood and like any parasite it has waste
products. I’m not only am I concerned that it got in via leaky gut, the fact that it’s living in the blood. The blood...I want
your blood to be so strong, so powerful, that if something gets in there, it’s like boom, I got it. I’m going to handle this
thing. But it’s allowing it to take residence there. Chlorophyll, plant-based diet, is the key thing because chlorophyll is
the same molecular shape as your blood. Except for one thing, the center atom. Where your blood is iron, the chlo-
rophyll is magnesium. So if you want to build healthier blood, what do we need more of? More of chlorophyll. It’s the
number one thing.
CHANGES
Jonathan Otto: Got it. What are the things people can see improve when they turmeric with BioPerine, with this black
pepper extract that helps to enhance its delivery? What is some of the transformations or changes that you see in
people’s lives, especially with your patients?
Dr. Raj Banerjee: Yeah, so pain, swelling, those go away. I’ve had patients where the rheumatoid arthritis ... they
can’t even close their hands. They do everything else that we talked about where mental stuff, the mindset, the eating
program plus they take these supplements, then within weeks, they’re able to use their hands better, they’re not in
so much pain, they’re getting up and they’re noticed their knees are not hurting as bad. Whatever they’re doing with
chiropractic or acupuncture, they work better too because their bodies are healing so those are some of the things
you could probably expect.
Irritable Bowel Syndrome
Dr. Joel Fuhrman: But then there are things like peppermint oil, that can help with irritable bowel syndrome or aloe
vera that can help or zinc carnosine, which can help with gastritis. There are some things that are going to help certain
problems and certain probiotics can be useful, not for everybody, but for people with irritable bowel syndrome, can
be very useful, especially the right type of strains. And then we can use things like these natural herbs that have like
anticancer or anti-inflammatory effects that are excellent to people like cumin and turmeric and a host of this. Some
other herbs that we utilize that have natural anti-inflammatory effects, but in conjunction with the excellent anti-in-
flammatory diet.
HOST — JONATHAN OTTO – DETOX PATHWAYS
Jonathan Otto: Detoxification is the vital process of removing toxic substances from our bodies. A process that our
bodies, when functioning properly, does on its own, in order to survive. Our good health is critically dependent on how
well our bodies are able to purge the bad: (-toxins, heavy metals, parasites, waste), through our elimination pathways
before adding the good: (-healthy foods, vitamins and minerals). We can think of it as cleaning house before we move
our things in.
Our detoxifying organs are responsible for this housekeeping and all together are commonly referred to as detox
pathways — so pathways that accumulated toxins take to exit our bodies. They include our skin-via sweat, our lungs-
via breathing, and the main organs: our liver and kidneys — by extension of these our urinary tract and bowels. When
our detox pathways become blocked, we suffer through a number of uncomfortable and even painful symptoms. It
is such an important process that some religious groups recite a prayer of thanks to God after acts of elimination, for
without this process, existence would be impossible.

So what can we do when our system is not working as it should be? Since ancient times, there have been many dif-
ferent rituals for detoxification, from fasting to juicing, enemas to lymphatic massage, hot and cold therapies to use
of herbal and plant based regimes. All meant to promote a global well being in multiple areas including reducing pain
and inflammation, increasing circulation and detoxifying the blood, organs, cells, tissues and bones. We’ve interviewed
experts and have gathered information to share with you on some potentially life changing protocols that you can
start putting into practice right away in your journey to revive your health...
INTRO — GUT HEALTH — COLON
Dr. Daniel Nuzum: You’re looking at concentrates, is what are going to really do the detoxing. If you consider the
difference between eating a bag of carrots and juicing five bags of carrot, which gives you the more concentration?
Or eating a couple of sprigs of parsley, alright, or juicing a couple bunches of parsley, which is going to have a bigger
impact on your gut, overall on your own health in general? Of course, it’s going to be the concentrates, right. The juice,
it’s all concentrated extract of those particular vegetables, right. What you want to find in a detoxing supplement, you
want it to be whole food, number one. That organic whole food is the starting point, right. Once you’ve done that, now
you have to find something that has ... They’ve maybe juiced the organic whole foods and freeze dry that into a powder
that you can put in a capsule, or in a canister, or something that you can mix, or that kind of thing. That’s where you
start getting into therapeutic doses of these fruits and vegetables, right.
Then from there, you want to look at particular mixtures or formulas of different extracts of different herbs, or dif-
ferent roots, or different other herbal remedies, right. Along with that, you may want to look at Vitamin Concentrate,
high Vitamin D3, high C or something along those lines, something that’s going to start activating the different detox
mechanisms in the body because ... Let’s say, Vitamin D, Vitamin D3, there are upwards of 20,000 different known
enzymatic mechanisms that Vitamin D3 activates. If you’re Vitamin D3 deficient, think of that. You got all these differ-
ent enzymatic pathways in your body that aren’t operating properly. They need that ingredient in order to operate
properly. There are different things like that.
Initially we have got to do a little, a combination of kind of loosening up the toxins in the body, loosening up the toxins
in the bowels, and then the gut, right, while at the same time, introducing things that are going to get the body’s enzyme
systems working again, get the metabolic processes going so things can start draining, alright. We don’t want to do
that all, you don’t want to detox everything at one time because that will make you sick, right. We have to stimulate
the pathways, open the exits, and start draining the body. We need to do that in sequence. There’s an old naturopathic
proverb that says, “You can only detox as fast as your colon.”
Jonathan Otto: Because that’s where all the junk goes, right?
Dr. Daniel Nuzum: That’s the garbage can. The garbage can’s full. You can’t add anything to it. If it isn’t leaving, it’s
re-entering, which is a really gross thing. But it’s true. Your whole digestive tract is designed to absorb. You have toxic
waste in the colon that’s not leaving your body; your body is reabsorbing all that toxic waste. That’s just triggering more
and more inflammation in the body, alright. We need to, number one, start with a colon but getting the body draining
properly, number one. Then also introducing nutrients that are going to get the body in its metabolic pathways, start
reactivated, if you will, if that makes sense.
GUT HEALTH
Jonathan Otto: Now, what about when we’re trying to get junk out. How do we get junk out because, even if I make
the best decision today, it doesn’t mean that I can now undo the past. How do I undo the past?
Dr. John Dempster: Great question. We really have to look at not just assessing these key organs that we always hear
about. We hear about the liver, we hear about the kidneys, we hear about the bowels, but it goes beyond that. There
are our lymphatics, there are our lungs. We’ve got to look at everything. This is really what we do is we take that whole
picture. We really want to make sure that we’re looking at the whole person and assessing where the little weak spots
are. That’s where we can start to focus on some of our care.
Dr. Daniel Nuzum: Now, for everyone listening right now, there are some very key things that I really recommend
you do. The bowels are where it begins. As you can tell, I’m very passionate about talking about gut health. We want
to make sure that we’re supporting the good microbiome in there. If this is a new term to you, this is the collection of
all your bacteria, good and bad, viruses, everything. We want to make sure that we’re doing things that are going to
nurture and grow the good guys, and really not feed the bad guys, which could be an overgrowth in yeast, for example,
or an overgrowth in parasites and bacteria, as well. We want to make sure that we are feeding the key elements and
the key nutrients that are going to propagate these good guys.
Once you have, you kind of, to give you an idea ... I use the analogy with patients. If you had a field that’s flooded but
there are all kinds of trash and garbage out in the field, what is the first thing you need to do in order to clean up the
field? You have to drain it. Follow that, water’s in the way. It’s going to make it really difficult to go out and pick up the
garbage up in the field, right. We start by draining the system, number one. We have got to get the colon moving and
get the lymphatic system draining again. The lymphatic system is the body’s sewer system. If it’s not draining, your
cells can’t flush the toilet, alright, to give you an idea. Before we can get to toxic cells and tissues, we have to get the
environment around them draining, and moving, and things that, I call it down the chute, down the funnel.
That initial, initiation of the drainage process, getting things draining, normally doesn’t take too long. A month, two
months maybe, we can get through that initial phase of just kind of getting things moving, getting the enzyme systems
reactivated, and that kind of thing.
ELIMINATION PATHWAYS — DETOX
Dr. John Dempster: I think it’s really important to make sure, when you’re trying to help somebody, that you do har-
ness a whole systems approach. It’s not about just focusing ... We’re not an automobile, right? We don’t just look at one
part, take that part out, clean it a little bit, and stick it back in. It’s about making sure that the whole system is working,
and there are multiple systems that make up that whole system. When it comes to brain health or when it comes to
gut health, there is a connection there.
We want to detoxify that person in a way that, again, isn’t going to overwhelm their systems, the individual systems, so
that the whole system is overwhelmed. We want to make sure that we’re flushing them out individually, and so I love
working on the liver, I love working on the kidneys, and I really love making sure that those bowels are working. You
should be having two to three bowel movements a day. You should be getting the soluble fibers, the insoluble fibers,
the prebiotics, and the probiotics. You want to make sure you’re getting all the stuff in there.
There’s lots of great products out there, as you know, that are very helpful for people, but you want to make sure that
you’re working on flushing the liver out. Lots of things like dandelion, chicory, yarrow. Gosh, there are so many things
that can go in there that are really, really powerful. Milk thistle, one of my favorites. Getting to the kidneys, you’re going
to get some benefit from those, as well. There are some great formulas that we work on and that we can help people
put together. Just start somewhere.

Dr. John Dempster: It’s not about being perfect. It’s really just putting one foot in front of the next, and then just make
sure that you’re looking at some of the fundamentals like making sure that you’re eating clean, making sure that you’re
going to the washroom three times a day, two to three times a day. I know it sounds like a luxury for some. Making
sure that you’re thinking the right thoughts. Again, don’t forget about that nervous connection between our CNS and
our enteric nervous system. If we’re stressed and we’re anxious, we’re going to be sending all the wrong signals down
to our gut, which really helps promote a lot of the detox pathways.
GUT HEALTH — BRAIN HEALTH
Dr. Raj Banerjee: Well again, the gut health and brain health ... there’s a direct connection so you can’t fix the brain
if you don’t fix the gut. The gut is always the first avenue of getting healthy. After that, if you want to go deeper into
brain health, then you do more brain type of exercises and again, you probably have other experts that can kind of
show you how to do that but that’s kind of the avenue that I go. Fix the gut. If you want to go deeper with that, do brain
exercises and then detox when they’re healthier.
Jonathan Otto: Fantastic. You see an order there of hierarchy so you got three layers there. First you’re going for gut
health, secondly you’re going for brain exercises and thirdly
Dr. Raj Banerjee: I’m trying to keep it simple. Basically, every patient will be different, right? So if you want to keep it
simple, it would be gut health, let them do that for about a month then I would go into a very mild detox where we’re
just cleaning out the liver, we’re doing a little bit of intermittent fasting, maybe even some coffee enemas, things like
that. After that, we can go into more looking at adrenals and other renal systems.
Testing – Peggy’s Analysis
Dr. Daryl Gioffre: If you look here as well, you can see these, as I change the focus, you can see these fibrin lines
show up. Fibrin is- it’s almost like, I call it scar tissue of the blood. It’s like, you mentioned spider web before; it’s like a
spider web of the blood. It makes the blood sticky. Alright. Sometimes there can be potential for inflammatory issues,
degenerative issues with that, something like that if I see go around in the blood, we’ll put you on a systemic enzyme
called lumbrokinase. Okay, lumbrokinase, cephrokinase is another good one, but I like lumbrokinase because it goes
in and cleans up all that kind of fibrin tissue within the stuff because this stuff is making the blood sticky.
Okay scroll around a little more and see if we find any yeast. So again, this is white blood cell. And you can see that it
actually did eat a little yeast ball right here. So if you look closely, there’s that bacterial rod. See that little white circle
right there?
Peggy: Yeah.
Dr. Daryl Gioffre: That’s a yeast ball right there. So this white blood cell’s kind of went kaput. So it did its job and
now it’s a little retired. You can see if you look closely in there. What was it doing, what was it eating. This is more
inflammation right here. You can see more yeast down here. So I’m seeing more of that fibrin. Don’t lose track of the
red blood cells, just keep looking at that. The other thing about the red blood cell, do you see how some of them are
starting to lose their shape?
Peggy: Yes.
Dr. Daryl Gioffre: So again, it’s because of the terrain. We’ve got to have a healthier terrain because the reality is that
you just lost forty million red blood cells. So did I. Alright. You just made forty million red blood cells, but the questions
are what are those red blood cells being dumped back into. So we have got to clean up that terrain. What’s happening
is that those cells are breaking down prematurely. That’s what we call premature aging. So again, what can we do to
cleanse that blood out, but number two, what makes up the surrounding of that red blood cell? It’s a bi-lipid called
EPA and DHA. Omega-3’s.
GUT HEALTH — DIGESTIVE
Dr. Raj Banerjee: My first approach is being aware of what’s going on in your body. Before I even want to work with
somebody, I want them to be needing to be healthy where that’s a goal that they really want. They have to really define
where they are and where they want to go because if you don’t know where you want to go and what your end goal
is, then how do you know when you reach there? It’s really mental part is going to be huge because you could do all
the things, you can take all the supplements, you can eat all the right foods, but if you truly believe that you deserve
to be unhealthy and unwell, you’re never going to get there and you’re seeing so many people like that or they’ll get
healthy and they’ll fall right back into where they were before. So I like to address that right from the beginning and
then second, I like to do certain basic blood test and different patients, we go deeper.
Jonathan Otto: What’s the name of this blood test?
Dr. Raj Banerjee: Different panels. We’ll do a complete thyroid panel, we’ll look at their insulin, we’ll look at their A1C
blood sugar, we’ll look at their kidney function, liver, all these different functions basically. We look at in a more func-
tional range so we’re not doing where the broad range that the labs will give us. I like to compare people with healthy
people because they want to be healthy; they don’t want to be the status quo so that’s kind of how I like to do that.
We’re looking at very tight ranges and that’s going to be our goal as far as what’s happening from the inside out. Then
we identify that they want to be healthy, we’ll look at some of the blood work and then once we kind of have that, I go
over everything with them and we give them a very basic eating plan.
HOST — JONATHAN OTTO – NUTRITION & FOOD TO BEGIN TO CLEANSE THE GUT
Jonathan Otto: We’ve learned quite a bit at this time about the signs and symptoms our bodies give us that assistance
is needed in detoxifying from decades of exposure to harmful toxins. Our modern world has offered many benefits but
as a consequence to our creature comforts, has exposed us to far more chemicals than our ancestors had to endure
and our future generations, our children and young adults, will seemingly have to endure more as well. Did you know
that a study known as the Maternal and Infant Environmental Exposure Project shows that the chemicals and pollutants
that were detected in the mother’s blood samples were also found in the umbilical cord blood samples, indicating that
they passed through the placenta and entered the fetal environment. Meaning that by the time this baby took her first
breath, hundreds of toxins were already present in her body, and this is not the only study of its kind.
Dr. Raj Banerjee: It’s time to return to the basics. A good start is in what we choose to buy, consume ourselves and
feed to our families. We need to go back to eating clean as best we can. Meaning organic, antibiotic-free, preserva-
tive-free and pesticide-free. We have found many incredible benefits to cleansing with a plant based diet including
herbs, mushrooms and attaining the right vitamins and antioxidants by eating the rainbow of fruits and vegetables
our beautiful planet has to offer. Making these choices can actually prevent and even reverse disease.
Sometimes, due to circumstances beyond our control — our busy lives, lack of access to ripe fresh produce in the
harsh winter seasons, we aren’t able to gather all the nutrients and vitamins we need for optimal health. Discover
the difference between the right kind of diets and which supplements we should be taking and those that are merely
marketing fads.

HOW TO DETOX — CLEANSE THE GUT: DIET
Anna Maria Clement: And my story, I started off in Sweden and I directed a clinic that was very known for inflammation
problems. We even had government support. It was a heyday for places that would help people to heal themselves.
So it was not medical. It was purely natural. And we had fasting, we had juicing, we had lots of garlic, as garlic is nature’s
own antibiotic. It is an anti-inflammatory. As we worked with, let’s say, arthritis, all forms of it, from gout, rheumatoid
arthritis, and asthma, and psoriasis, and you know, any anti-inflammatory reason.
So the garlic, we would actually eat together with apples. We would chop the garlic in pieces and apple in piece and eat
it together. But be able to take bigger amounts of it, we would actually make something called flax water. If you put
flax seeds in water and let it swell overnight, it’s not really thick and it doesn’t taste anything, but it actually protects
the whole gastrointestinal tube, so you don’t burn when you eat higher amount of garlic then you normally would
have, maybe one clove in your salad.
NUTRITION TO REVERSE DISEASE
Dr. Joel Fuhrman: Well, I want to make it clear that food gives us nutritive substances and those nutritive substances
enable the body to function normally. We want to take in somewhat, not take in an excessive amount of calories.
Matter of fact, if we take in a moderately lower amount of calories, a mild caloric restriction, it slows the aging process
and the body doesn’t produce as many free radicals. Now the foods we’re choosing to eat helps us moderately chloric
restrict because when we eat foods that are rich in natural phytochemicals and antioxidants, these things prevent
the reactive oxygen species from building up. What I’m saying right now is the digestion of calories, just metabolizing
calories, produces free radicals, but the antioxidants and phytochemicals in natural colorful plants, deactivate those
free radicals to prevent food from aging us.
We take in foods like donuts and cookies and rice cakes and breakfast bars and chips that just give us calories with no
micronutrient load. Then we’re aging ourselves with every bite. What I’m saying right now, that when we construct a diet
that’s rich in antioxidants, and there are literally more than ... There are not just a hundred phytonutrients. There are
thousands of different phytonutrients. Getting that full spectrum of phytonutrient exposure from green vegetables and
colorful berries and different types of colorful plants, including colorful herbs and spices as well, having the full spec-
trum of nutrients. The wider that spectrum is enables the body to more effectively manifest its anti-aging properties.
What the body does is it’ll produce, it’ll take what it needs out of food and out of our diet, and it’ll make it so we can live
and reproduce and feel okay, but it’ll sacrifice our future health. It won’t repair the DNA cross-links. It won’t fix meth-
ylation defects. It won’t start to remove free radicals sufficiently. It won’t detoxify the cell. The body won’t protect our
future. It’ll just do what it has to do for the moment so we can survive and feel okay. If we start to take in an excellent
amount of nutritional exposure, the body can take out what it needs for its everyday uses and its reproductive needs
right now. It can also do that extra degree of repair and healing and building up those longevity proteins that enables
us to age slower and live to be 100 years old.
The question is how excellent do you want to eat, and do you want to have a very comprehensive array of phytonu-
trients in your diet? That’s where we use both a variety of green vegetables, a variety of colorful orange and black
foods, and also herbs and spices. Of course, like dill and parsley and turmeric and things, and all types of beneficial
nutrients, parsley, all different nutrients that contribute to the full symphony of nutrients we get from natural foods.
NUTRITION TO REVERSE DISEASE
Dr. Joel Fuhrman: Now as much as we can, we want to use these foods, herbs, and spices that have nutritive qualities,
not medicinal qualities. The medicinal qualities that make your heart beat faster or your heart beat slower or make
you urinate more or urinate less, and make you feel like you can take your headache away or make you feel energized,
those things are medicinal because of the toxic part of the natural substance, not because of the nutritive substance.
We want to live in a manner to avoid the need for medicinal substances, either natural or pharmacologic.
However, when we do have that need for a medicinal substance because we didn’t eat healthy, we created some
imbalanced, so we had some stress. We’re disease developed and we need something to soothe the digestive tract
lining or we need somebody to help a person come out of depression, or need something to relax a person and let
them go to sleep. Then I think it’s reasonable that these natural herbal substances used judiciously do not have the
toxic side effect profile as medications do. They’re more gentle in their approach. They’re not as addicting. They don’t
press down our own body’s production of hormones so it throws off the body’s balance. It’s much more reasonable
to use these natural substances instead of to avoid the need to use medication.
We can talk about that with regard to inflammatory bowel disease or irritable bowel syndrome, or depression or anx-
iety, or a host of different issues. Generally speaking, I’m still suggesting that the nutritive herbs and spices and foods
are really, we devote our energy just for great health.
COLON CLEANSING
Jonathan Otto: The third prong of detoxification is cleansing the colon. No detox protocol is complete without ridding
the body of all the waste that clog up our colon, cause constipation, bloating, and immune dysfunction. According to
the National Institutes of Health, constipation affects about 16% of Americans and it gets worse by age 60 plus. 33% of
adults suffer from symptoms of constipation. Women are more likely than men to become constipated, as are those
who don’t eat enough fiber and those who take certain medications.
COLON CLEANSE — GINSENG AND GUT HEALTH
Dr. Sruti Lam: Ginseng is very antimicrobial because of the bitterness. It is great for any kind of candida, any kind of
salmonella typhi, which cause Typhoid fever, leptospirae, which is a lung infection, leptospirosis.
It can also be used for sinus infections, and for gut infections, and for people who are loaded with a lot of fungus in their
body or have dysbiosis because they have opportunistic microorganisms in their body that cause infection. Ginseng
kills all of that. Ginseng is great for any kind of parasites that we have ingested in our body that can cause any kind
of diarrhea, or vomiting, or stomach upset. Ginseng is a good herb in helping cleanse all of those things. Ginseng is a
great digestive herb especially being a liver tonic and anti-parasitic.
CLEANSING — SCRUBBING THE GUT
Dr. John Dempster: If we can do anything to scrub our gut by putting foods in there that are going to do that or
supplements that are going to do that, you’re going to do a lot of good for a lot of people. And things such as oats,
all sorts of different soluble fibers, insoluble fiber mixed together are just going to really start to grab and sweep and
pull and drag debris out.

Our gut lining isn’t just this linear tube. Our gut linings often have lots of different undulations in there and different
villus and microvillus depending on which type of gut we’re talking about. Think of almost like a shag carpet. And we
don’t want things to get stuck and embedded in some of these
We want to make sure that we’re cleaning that out and really removing and scrubbing and cleaning that stuff out. So a
lot of those types of nutrients will do that and then we want to of course go in there and combine some sort of healing
and sealing type of agent such as aloe or golden seal or ginger. These are great anti-inflammatories.
PARASITES
Jonathan Otto: After we remove toxins, the second detox step is to eliminate parasites. Even the Government Center
for Disease Control admits that millions of Americans live with intestinal parasites and don’t even know it. They often
don’t know it because just as with toxins, symptoms of parasitic infection aren’t very specific either. They range from
digestive problems, to fatigue, from skin rashes or eczema, to sleep problems.
There are a number of ways that you can contract these nasty invaders, food, water, pets, soil, bug bites and contact
with infected people. Once you contract them, they feed on yourselves. Blood, food you eat, supplements you take,
and even your energy. Parasites release toxins into your bloodstream after they feed as well as when they die.
PARASITES — IODINE
Dr. Gabriel Cousens: Okay what do you do? Well we worked it out, first you wash all your vegetables, anything you’re
going to have, in iodine to kill the parasites there, and then I’ve added this simple particle, twice a year do this pro-
gressive iodine enema.
Jonathan Otto: It’s an enema?
Dr. Gabriel Cousens: Yeah well for the parasites yeah.
Jonathan Otto: Oh cool, yeah, I mean I do enemas, I believe coffee enemas.
Dr. Gabriel Cousens: But I’m saying just like twice a year, six days and then you know, so seven days of enemas while
you’re fasting, it really is, again, a general preventative, you see what I mean? That’s kind of where I’m going because
I’m trying to deal with lots and lots and lots of people, can’t just individually see.
Jonathan Otto: That’s kind of what I meant. But the iodine also we take as drops, you know, the one I use, the
Illumodine, so that’s a different thing. So that’s going to push out lead, mercury, cadmium, and fluoride. Now fluoride
is systemic poison, people who take fluoride are going to have higher rates of cancer, significantly, and it blocks the
pineal gland, and it also blocks the thyroid gland.
Dr. Gabriel Cousens: These two compete, but iodine is more powerful and it wins the competition, and kind of re-
activates the brain, and the thyroid, and the pineal, and the whole rest of the system. So that’s kind of a way to think
about it to get rid of the ... not just the parasites, but the build-up, the iodine, about ... and it’s going to vary, but there’s
a research done by a very well-known doctor, and he studied 4000 people, and he found approximately 95% of the
people were iodine deficient. Yeah this — these are Americans, okay? And maybe throughout the world, depending
on where you live, it’s about 70% of the population is iodine deficient. So people’s brains don’t work as well. So look,
people who are really iodine deficient are the ones that really have ... often are born with severe mental retardation
for example, just to give you an idea what I’m talking about. It’s very real, and it’s very simple, and they used to put
iodine in the salt, but they stopped doing it, and the result was people’s brains aren’t working as much. The Chinese,
I’ve been told, put iodine in their water, and that’s a way of maintaining high level of mental function. So, it’s, like, whoa.
Okay, so, if you get what I’m saying; these are simple things that really do make a difference.
Liana Werner-Gray: I love bentonite clay so much. Okay, so bentonite clay. My story started with clay once I had the
tumor. So I went and did also a live blood test. And in the live blood test, up on a big screen, I could see my blood was
riddled with parasites. Like, riddled. I saw all these little worms in my blood, invading my blood, taking over my blood.
It was disgusting. It made me feel so sick. I was like, how can my body right now be getting invaded by parasites?
And so I spoke to a naturopath and she said, start drinking bentonite clay because that’s going to absorb all those
parasites and lock them into the clays antibodies and take them out of your body. When she was explaining the clay
to me, it just clicked. And intuitively I knew, yes, the clay is going to work for me. I need this clay in my life. And that’s
a great approach to healing is find out about all of the plant kingdom and all of the things that can help you heal and
pick the ones that really excite you and resonate with you. But I believe bentonite clay is here to help us for the next
1500 years to get through this major detox period that we’re going through. And also to absorb heavy metals and all
the toxins that are in our environment from the chemtrails so we can keep our brains super sharp and clear.
So I started drinking the clay and I did a lot more research about it and found out that it’s volcanic ash. And it has
taken years to form in some deposits around the world and that there is a deposit in Australia. There’s one in India.
There’s also one in Hawaii, and then there’s one in Wyoming. And the one where I source my clay from is Utah. So I
recently went to Utah to the clay field and saw the raw clay, which was a total dream come true. That was like tick off
my bucket list. I could just die so happy, complete in the clay fields. Just to see the clay, like right there in the fields.
INGREDIENTS FOR PARASITE CLEANSE
Jonathan Otto: Here are a few of the ingredients that as part of an effective detox protocol can help you eliminate
parasites from your body. Mimosa pudica seed. This plant, which is also called the touch-me-not plant, is well known
for its parasite fighting properties. It works its way through the intestinal walls, pulling out parasites, toxins, heavy
metals, biofilms, and other unwanted elements that provide immune and digestive support. One interesting fact: it’s
so powerful that it’s been used to counteract venom from the cobra snake.
Green harvested black walnut hulls. You may know that nuts are nutritious, but this particular nut has been used since
ancient times for its health properties. Black walnut contains a compound called juglone, which has been shown to be
effective for expelling parasites from the body.
Wormwood herb. This natural herb content’s compounds such as artemisinin that help cleanse the body of harmful
organisms such as parasites. It also supports liver and digestive health.
Triphala. The staple of ayurvedic healing nourishes the digestive tract, supports colon cleansing and detoxification.
Supports a healthy inflammatory response and provides antioxidant benefits.
Neem leaf, this is another ayurvedic healing nutrient that supports parasitic removal, detoxification, immune function,
gastrointestinal health and liver and skin health.

WORMWOOD — MOVING BOWELS — PARASITES
Dr. Gabriel Cousens: Well wormwood is one of the classic herbs that are still used in this herbal approach. I’ll put
it that way. Triphala is really to make your bowels move, and, as far as I’m concerned, it’s the best because it’s not a
cathartic. And it’s made from three herbs. That doesn’t matter so much. It strengthens the smooth muscles of the
bowel, so the way I give it to cure constipation is, over a year’s time, or however long it takes, take enough of it twice
a day, until you’re having one or two bowel movements a day. Slowly decrease it and still maintain one to two bowel
movements a day, so you’re rebuilding the smooth muscles in the bowel, so your bowel really begins to work again.
FULVIC & PARASITES
John Schott: So, we talked a little bit about chlorella, fulvic acid and cordyceps. Those actually I do like. Because those
are gentle for the body and they will get some of these constituents out of the body, especially the fulvic.
So the fulvic minerals, what they do is it starts to go and take what’s called a biofilm or a calcium shell, that these par-
asites and these organisms create around them so that they are not penetrated by some of these herbal constituents
that we’ve been using for thousands of years, and for a long time that are effective. But now we’re seeing that they’re
not as effective as they were that say 50 100 years ago because of these biofilm.
Now the biofilm has made it a lot more tricky and it needs a slightly more sophisticated approach. So we need to break
that biofilm or calcium shell around these organisms so that we can expose them. And then we can use things like
clove, oregano, and some of these other herbs that you mentioned so that they can destroy some of these parasites
and the body can flush them out.
FULVIC ACID
Jonathan Otto: And what you’ll find as well, the third final step. He used this particular approach when he recom-
mended to Tenille Wheeler to use fulvic acid to help repair her leaky gut. This is because fulvic acid is called the ulti-
mate nutrient booster, because it has over 70 micronutrients, 18 amino acids, and 13 organic acids. So it’s, you know,
this, this liquid fulvic minerals or fulvic acid has the ability to go into the body and deposit rich nutrients from ancient
sources that have been compacted through just a few places in the world. So it’s actually quite rare to find high-qual-
ity fulvic acid. And so what this is able to do is deposit rich nutrients into the body, and one of the major ways that it
does this is because of the low molecular weight it has. It has the ability to cross cell membranes. And this is really
important when it comes to repairing leaky gut and to deposit nutrients in the body. And most importantly, or equally
as important, is to pull the toxins out.
So that’s why fulvic acid is described as the mailman and the trash bin disposal. Mailman comes to drop their mail off
and says, “Hey, I’ve got something for you,” gives something of value to you. For some people, they’re getting mail that
they don’t want, but most people, you know, most of the things we’re getting, especially if we’re ordering something
we want, they’re coming to bring the things that we want. So the deposit of the good. And then, what fulvic acid will
do is then he’ll be the trash bin disposal as well, and say, “Hey, do you have something that you need taken out to the
trash? I got a few spare hands here.” Grabs that trash, takes it out.
And that’s the amazing kind of miracle within fulvic acid, in its ability of fulvic minerals to go into the body, deposit rich
nutrients, pull out toxic metals, toxic pollutants, things that have come through, like toxic BPA and BPS. You know, it’s
like when they took the BPA out, the BPS wasn’t any better, and the other environmental toxins that we’re exposed to,
other bacteria. This is an antimicrobial and it’s a gut cleanser as well as being an amazing nutrient booster.
Liana Werner-Gray: So what it does is, if there are any toxins or heavy metals or parasites lurking in our body, it attracts
them like a magnet. And they basically can’t escape the clay. It’s awesome. So then the clay takes it out of our body and
it’s just such a purifying feeling. Very cleansing, very clean. And the indigenous people that were native to whichever
land the bentonite clay came from, they use it to purify the body. So the symbol of bentonite clay is purification. So if
anyone wants to make their body more pure, definitely start drinking the clay. And you can drink it every single day.
So I started drinking it every single day and I still do drink it to this day. I’ll drink it for a couple of months every day
and then I’ll take a couple months off, once my body feels super clean and pure. But yeah, it’s been in my life now for
10 years and it’s amazing. Absolutely amazing. Yeah, it’s here for our healing. It helps heal so many gut issues as well.
GUT HEALTH — PARASITES — DETOX
Dr. Daniel Nuzum: This one, we have psyllium, a husk powder. We have inulin, slippery elm bark, aloe. That’s papaya
fruit. All of these things are going to focus more on gut detox, but soothing the gut, not forcing bowel movements.
It’s going to cause the bowels to move. It’s going to be, it would be loosening any accumulated waste in the gut. Also,
there’s acai berry. There’s chlorella. We got black walnut hulls in ginger root. Then we have hyssop in this formula.
These would be things that would be very helpful for starting a parasite cleanse and that kind of thing. These are, would
be anti-parasitic herbs in ... With the chlorella, chlorella acts as a, how do I say it? A toxin sponge ... I mean, it just kind
of sucks up toxins. Great, great. It’s a really nice formula. I like this formula. Again, this would be something I would
initiate detoxing with something like this. It’s gentle. It’s something that would loosen up things. You’re not going to,
this isn’t a dynamite colon cleanse, something like that. This isn’t a laxative by any means, which isn’t something you’d
want to start with. That’s, you’d want to use something like this to get started to get the bowels moving, get things,
just kind of get the process moving. You know what I’m saying?
Jonathan Otto: Yeah, okay.
Dr. Daniel Nuzum: Because drainage is not something that is going to happen overnight. You have got to give it time.
Especially the more inflamed the person is, the more swollen the person is, the more time they need to give it. The
drainage is a process. It needs to have some time. That would be a great beginner’s detox program, for sure, for sure.
GENTIAN BITTERS
Dr. John Dempster: Gentian bitters are great because what they’re going to do is they’re going to stimulate digestion,
they’re going to almost give a forward, pit forward type of program that goes on downstream in your gut. They do all
sorts of other things through gut healing as well.
But I really like those because it’s really going to get the processes going. Remember we’re not individual parts. We’ve
got to communicate to all the other parts and tell them that we’re coming when the food enters our mouth.
We’re already sending signals down to our large bowel. And we want to make sure that we’re doing that properly. And
bentonite clay is another great thing. That’s going to go on and it’s really just going to grab and absorb and bind this
debris that we don’t want hanging around in our gut. We want his stuff out. Get it moving out.

COLON CLEANSE – BURDOCK
Dr. Sruti Lam: When we are thinking about the gut, we think about burdock because burdock is used to cleanse the
spleen. The spleen is a small organ on the left side of our body, and the spleen is where all the immune system of our
body. It’s the bed of all of it. It’s the bed of the immune system for our body.
When we get sick, when we have a lot of infections in our body, when we have a lot of microorganisms in our body
that should not be there our spleen enlarges. When that happens our blood is not properly formed. Blood is produced
and helped cleansed in the spleen, so when that happens, we want to help purify and cleanse the blood, and so in that
same process we’re cleansing the spleen. Burdock is great for doing that.
It has been used in Chinese medicine, in Ayurvedic medicine for hundreds of years to actually help cleanse and purify
our blood. When we do that we also purify our skin. Burdock can be an anti-aging herb because it actually helps de-
crease our wrinkles. It decreases acne. It really releases all the toxins in our body and is excellent for that.
Burdock used in combination with other digestive herbs is great for the digestive system as well. Burdock can really
be taken to balance out your hormones as well because it is phyto-estrogenic. It’s anti-inflammatory. Burdock root is
also a great fiber, if you take it as an herb form.
Burdock has a really bitter taste, but it’s a more peppery, bitter taste, just like dandelion does, just like lotus root does.
It also releases digestive enzymes in your body. As soon as you eat it you have a release of digestive enzymes both in
your saliva, in your gut, in your intestines, and that helps cleanse the whole colon by releasing all the toxins.
INGREDIENTS TO CLEANSE THE COLON
Jonathan Otto: We found a number of ingredients that help cleanse the colon of their accumulated wastes. Goldenseal
root. This herbal remedy has been used for centuries to treat various health concerns. Goldenseal contains berberine
and other substances that support gastrointestinal health and provide relief of bloating, cramping, and constipation.
It also has anti-inflammatory properties.
Bentonite. This is a special type of clay that helps remove toxins and accumulated fecal matter in the colon. Cascara sa-
grada bark. Its name translates to sacred bark. Cascara sagrada is well known for digestive aid and tonic for constipation.
Aloe vera leaf. Aloe vera is an alkaline forming food with hundreds of active components. It has been used for centuries
to cleanse the colon and help relieve constipation. It’s also a natural anti-inflammatory.
Buckthorn bark. Buckthorn has similar substances to cascara sagrada. It contains compounds called anthraquinones
which help ease constipation. It has been used traditionally as a digestive tonic.
Now, you know some important facts about the effects of toxic overload and what you can do on a regular basis to
take some pressure off your overworked organs of detoxification. Did you enjoy this special content that we share
with you today?
TESTING — PEGGY ANALYSIS
Dr. Daryl Gioffre: I would take an Omega-3 fish oil. Okay, here’s a picture. Here’s some yeast guys. This is what I was
looking for. Alright, to make you feel a little bit better, see this right here?
Peggy: Yeah.
Dr. Daryl Gioffre: That’s yeast. That’s yeast. It’s fermentation in the blood. Alright. Where does fermentation come
from? From sugar. Alright. So sugar is a little bit of an issue for you right now. As I mentioned before, it’s okay to have
yeast in the gut but we don’t want yeast in the blood. Alright, because yeast will create micro-toxins which are waste
products of the yeast itself. Again, it’s an opportunistic parasite. So you would be a perfect candidate for the leaky gut
protocol, which we will definitely send to you, which is what we talked about before. We’re going to give you some
aloe vera, bioactive hydrosorbisol, give you one tablespoon of each. You do it together. You do that three times a day
for two weeks. What that’s going to do is that’s really going to help kill off a lot of the pathogenic yeast but also heal
up the leaky gut. Another thing that I’m seeing is the cells, these are called codocytes, or target cells. See how there’s
almost like a halo, like a bullseye?
Peggy: Yes.
Dr. Daryl Gioffre: So that means that, again, the.....it’s like when a building is old and all of a sudden they blow it up
and it implodes. That’s like the red blood cell imploding on itself because the integrity of the cell’s been damaged. Again,
we need to make that cell stronger. How do we make the cell stronger? What’s the most important thing?
Peggy: Yeah, yeah, chlorophyll.
Dr. Daryl Gioffre: Yes, we want to eat the greens but drinking the greens is the most powerful because when you
drink the greens one, they’re highly concentrated but number two, they’re in the pre-digestive form.
Peggy: Right.
Dr. Daryl Gioffre: Right, they get into the body in the pre-digestive state so you don’t have to work as hard. Goes right
into the blood within thirty seconds. That’s why I love the dehydrated greens, that’s my favorite.
TURMERIC — INFLAMMATION AND GUT HEALTH
Dr. John Dempster: One of my favorite spices on this planet is turmeric and turmeric is something that we’ve heard
of for centuries if not thousands of years and the impact that it has on our health is profound.
It not only is now being proven to slow different types of cancers, it is a very powerful anti-inflammatory, and it’s great
for our cardiovascular system. But we’re seeing huge roles for it in our gut. Why is that important? Taking it in as spice,
like ground up and put in cooking with it is very very powerful on its own. But what we’re finding is that if you can
actually get an extract of turmeric called curcumin and you can combine that with something called bioperine, this
is the activated form. And I really believe that that is going to be your most active form. There are lots of other great
ones out there too.
So if you don’t have a choice you just get some turmeric. But the best form is going to be curcumin mixed with bio-
perine. Absolutely.
Jonathan Otto: Fantastic and what can somebody use that to help with?
Dr. John Dempster: So we can use curcumin and bioperine to help with inflammation. We can help prevent any chronic
illness that we know right now that is linked to inflammation. And for gut lining it’s very soothing, it’s very calming. It’s
a very gentle spice to consume. If you cook with it you understand what I mean.
It’s so well tolerated. I take it every single day. My wife takes it every single day and pretty soon my kids will be taking
it too. It’s something that I believe that virtually everyone on this planet should be taking.
Detox — Turmeric — Supplements — Turmeric — BioPerine

Dr. Daniel Nuzum: What, let’s see here. I’m looking at ... When you’re starting with a detox program, different spices
... I particularly like to use just straight turmeric with a curcumin extract in a lot of my detox. Sometimes we use some
ginger in with that. Things that are mild spices start to stimulate the stomach to produce more acid. We want to do
it gently. We don’t want to have an irritated stomach, just copiously producing all kinds of acid because that’ll cause
problems.
Jonathan Otto: What about BioPerine?
Dr. Daniel Nuzum: BioPerine, BioPerine, I usually use that with the turmeric and the curcumin initially. I use it for a
while. I’ll use it may be up to two months. It’s usually, typically how I, I will have patients use that.
Jonathan Otto: Does it increase availability?
Dr. Daniel Nuzum: It does. It helps the turmeric in the curcumin in particular be absorbed. But it is very hot, very
spicy, alright. It’s something that does help, helps the stomach with producing more acid, which is a benefit that I like
to get from it often, off the get-go, because you got to get the stomach producing good acid. You got to kind of support
the small intestine in order to get the gut, the colon moving. You don’t want to just rely on a colon cleanse to get the
colon moving. You want to actually have the colon cleanse help with emptying the colon and have other things start
working, the peristaltic action, that pushing force in the gut, so it’s working everything downward. That’s important.
That’s one of the things I would look at.
DIGESTIVE ENZYMES
Dr. Daniel Fenster: Again, I’m talking as a chiropractor, but more importantly, I’m talking as a patient, as a human
being, having an experience of, over the past few months, doing some traveling and not eating as well as I would have
liked. I like dessert as much as the next guy and I like to enjoy a cocktail sometimes in the evening. That, I felt like,
was catching up to me. I had put on some additional weight. I was feeling a little sluggish. I decided it was time to do
a detoxification of my body.
I eat pretty cleanly, but all of us cheat a little bit, are not on the case as much as we should be, and certain toxins will
build up in the body. If we can rid ourselves of those, then we’re going to function that much better. That’s the goal of
this, to not let yourself get to the point where you’re sick. It’s to try and be as healthy as possible. That’s what wellness
is, to be functioning and as healthy as you can all the days of your life, functioning at a high level. And this detoxification
COLON CLEANSE — FIBER
Dr. Sruti Lam: We cannot talk about gut health without talking about fiber. Fiber is essential in our diet. There are so
many different kinds of fiber. They’re basically divided into two different categories, insoluble fiber and soluble fiber.
For every 1,000 calories of food we consume, we need a minimum of 14 grams of fiber to actually help digest that food,
or have a good bowel movement. Sadly, our American diet does not even give half of that fiber, and if we consume
2000 calories we need least 28 grams of fiber in our body.
Fiber is present in so many different things. And as I say, there is insoluble and soluble fiber. What is the difference
between the both of these fibers? Insoluble fiber is fiber that actually bulks up your stool. It consists of lipopolysac-
charides that actually cannot be digested but by our digestive enzymes, so it’s a resistance to all our enzymes, so it
remains as it is whole. It actually holds onto bulking up our stool and helping pushing everything out into... through
our colon. That is what an insoluble fiber does.
Whereas, a soluble fiber it actually dissolves in our in our gut. It retains water. This also helps bulk up the stool, but it
can slow our digestion by making us feel fuller. Then when everything is ready to actually be expelled out, then you
can have a bowel movement. We basically need both the insoluble and the soluble fibers.
Some examples of insoluble fiber are anything that has inulin in it. For example, chicory root has a lot of inulin in it.
Chicory root tastes very sweet. Anything that is bitter and really bitter can taste very sweet at the end. That’s what
chicory root is. Chicory root can actually be a substitute for coffee for people who drink coffee for the bitter taste of
coffee. There is a lot of roasted chicory root, just like roasted dandelion, that’s available for people who are addicted
to coffee, but really want to have a bowel movement.
Many of my patients say, “I can’t go and have a bowel movement without drinking a cup of coffee.” It’s because they
want the digestive enzymes to be released and the fiber to actually form to have a bowel movement. If you’re addicted
to coffee because of having a bowel movement then you can substitute it with both chicory root or dandelion, which
has a lot of insoluble fiber that does actually help release it. That is part of the insoluble fiber.
What is soluble fiber? All of us have heard of oats. We’ve heard of wheat bran. We’ve heard of psyllium husk. All of
these are soluble fibers. That means when we take it, it actually dissolves in our body and actually bulks up our stool.
They’re examples of oat bran, and if you’ve watched a lot of commercials on oats and how avenin satyla is really good
in decreasing cholesterol levels. Why does it do it? It actually helps dissolve the plaque that is present in our blood
vessels. That’s why it helps in lowering our bad cholesterol and helping in having a good cardiovascular system. That
is because of the dissolving property of oat bran.
Psyllium husk does the same thing, but psyllium husk has to be taken with a lot of water, so when you eat a lot of
soluble fiber, or you take it as a capsule form make sure to drink water. Otherwise, you are actually bulking up and
retain the stool in your gut without having a reason to bulk it up, so it’s like bulking all the water up in your intestines
and just staying there. The more the water you drink, the more it’s absorbed, and the more it helps with the passage
without having a colon cleanse.
That’s why fiber is essential both as a capsule form, and eating the whole grain, or eating the whole vegetable, or the
fruit. A lot of fruits like bananas, the pectin of oranges, or any kind of citrus fruits, all of these have that fiber that actu-
ally is dissolved in our body and helps not only release toxins out of our body, but also help break down our plaque in
our body, help to pull out all the different heavy metals that we have in our body, help in just releasing anything that
we have eaten that is not good for our body, and helping cleanse all of that. Soluble and insoluble fiber is essential in
our diets.
CORDYCEPS — MUSHROOMS
Jonathan Otto: You would recommend cordyceps sinensis?
Dr. Rudy Mueller: Cordyceps, lion’s mane, reishi, I would recommend those. And then there’s another peptide called
Body Protecting Compound. That’s actually secreted in the gastrointestinal tract, and has been shown to see, — so
you can take it orally or you can do subcutaneous injections. And BPC has helped with Crohn’s, ulcer colitis and help-
ing heal the gut, but systematically if you’re doing subcutaneous injections, we’re seeing improvements in decreasing
inflammatory response, decreases in CRP, as well as healing of some tissue. Now, locally it’s being utilized for like
injuries, tears and recoveries from surgeries, they just inject it into the area.

GUT HEALTH — CELERY — GINGER — CHOLINE — CHLORELLA
Dr. Elena Villanueva: You have my favorite celery seed in here, so you have that in there. The ginger is great.
Jonathan Otto: What’s good with celery seed and ginger?
Dr. Elena Villanueva: Well, I use more celery juice than I do celery seed. But you’re getting a lot of minerals in the
celery juice that is really helping you to alkalize the body, and it’s putting a lot of nutrients back into the body, and it’s
very actually, it’s very calming to the gut system. And it’s just a great detoxifier overall, and a lot of times it’ll also help
people with elimination, just kind of as a side effect with that also.
Jonathan Otto: Elimination, you mean bowel movements.
Dr. Elena Villanueva: Yeah, with the bowel movements. Choline, that’s going to be really good, also, for liver, liver
detox, but it also will have some effects on some other issues, too, like even with the bowels, so you can use choline.
For example, if someone is having very, very runny stools, you can supplement with some choline-based derivative
products and that can help with that why you’re trying to fix underlying problems.
I’ll use chlorella a lot for people that are having a lot of gut distress, and if they’re having a lot of gut inflammation, we’ll
use that also. And it’s a wonderful binder for heavy metals and other toxins.
Jonathan Otto: Ah, interesting. Chlorella does that? Binds toxins-
Dr. Elena Villanueva: A lot of your green stuff does, so like cilantro does that, parsley does that, chlorella does that.
Jonathan Otto: With, is that toxic heavy metals?
Dr. Elena Villanueva: Toxic heavy metals, and other, and it’s ... So, a lot of the greens are really good at binding heavy
metals, but the greens I find that they bind other toxins, too. They’re really good just overall toxin binders. But for
heavy metals, for sure.
Testing – Peggy’s Analysis
Jonathan Otto: So wrapping it up here, what else can Peggy be doing from what you’ve seen in her blood?
Dr. Daryl Gioffre: So I think the two biggest deficiencies we’re seeing are minerals, especially magnesium, because
that’s what makes up chlorophyll. We have got to get green juices into your diet. Fresh green juices, I love the dehy-
drated juices. You need more Omega-3 fats. I strongly recommend taking a good Omega-3 supplement like our alka-
line daily Omega-3s. Increase the healthy forms of Omega-’s from plant based, which would be chia seeds, flax seeds,
hemp seeds. Not their oils, because their oils become a little unstable, but more of those seeds. So increase those.
More hydration. The average person needs three to four liters of water because we lose about two point five liters a
day. The hydration is important because again think about the plant. The plant wilts, give it more water. Same thing.
When our blood just becomes contractive, we want to give it more hydration, so that’s a very important thing. I think
because we saw a lot of those fibrin lines, a systemic enzyme is important. That is important because it’s going to help
clean up all that scar tissue, not just in the blood but also the body and the tissue, the connective tissue.
I think another important thing that happens as we age is we produce less hydrochloric acid in our stomach. So I think
you’re not fully digesting your food the way you need to
HOST — JONATHAN OTTO — DIGESTIVE ENZYMES
Jonathan Otto: As you may have learned from our interviews, our digestive system organs work together to break
down the food and fluids we eat: fats, proteins, carbs, into simpler forms and into the bloodstream.
Digestive enzymes are an essential part of this process because they break down the particles into even smaller forms
in order for the nutrients to be properly absorbed to provide the energy our bodies need to grow and repair.
Enzymes are present in some foods and in our digestive tract — our saliva, pancreas, intestines and intestinal microflora.
Amylase — responsible for processing carbohydrates into simple sugars; Protease -breaking down protein into amino
acids; AND Lipase — which breaks down fats into fatty acids, are the three main enzymes our body uses to digest food.
When our bodies are unable to produce an adequate amount of enzymes it can cause the body to be malnourished
as nutrients will pass through the body unabsorbed and can also lead to digestive issues and indigestion disorders.
Many people suffer from these conditions, in fact research confirms as high as nearly one third of North Americans
present digestive issues such as constipation or diarrhea as well as digestive symptoms such as abdominal pain,
bloating and gas.
Eating foods that are high in natural digestive enzymes can help improve digestion and relieve uncomfortable symp-
toms and even food sensitivities. Unhealthy foods however act as triggers and cause the issues by depleting our body’s
ability to make these vital enzymes so it is essential to remove them from our diets.
Some foods containing natural digestive enzymes which release minerals, antioxidants, vitamins and nutrients include
pineapple, papaya, mango, honey, bananas, avocados, kefir, sauerkraut, kimchi, kiwi, miso, and ginger.
LEAKY GUT AND DIGESTIVE ENZYMES
Dr. Rudy Mueller: When our food comes in, we chew it up, we break it down in our mouth, it falls into the stomach,
the enzymes begin to act and break apart, break apart, and that bolus falls into the small intestines. The pancreas
and the gallbladder secrete specific nutrients, based off of chemical signaling, to then break that down even further.
And think about all of these nutrients as being chains of pearls, it’s like we’re coming in with these enzymes with a
pair of scissors, and separating out each pearl, so now that they can be absorbed, or they can be munched on by your
microbes in your gut, creating other nutrients, and feeding them, and allowing good microbial growth.
When it comes to digestive enzymes, if we don’t have the proper digestive enzymes, these chains of pearls can now
come in, and we haven’t broken them down. In an environment where we have leaky gut, these chains of pearls are
now able to cross over, and the immune system starts to react to that food. Molecular mimicry, which is one thing
where the food proteins are structured in such a way, that look very similar to your own tissue, the immune system
starts to recognize that food, and then it can contribute to autoimmunity or other things.
Digestive enzymes are extremely important, and if we’re having a lack of production, if we’re having leaky gut, or in-
testinal hyper permeability, it’s one of the most important pieces in taking something along those lines of that.
DIGESTIVE ENZYMES
Jonathan Otto: Also, the digestive enzymes. These are a must in Dr. Nuzum’s protocols. We’ve found them to be a
must as well in our research and in my health and the health of those that we care about, and people that have had
success and dramatic improvements and reversals of their conditions. And it’s been through the use of digestive en-
zymes in collaboration with these two other things, right? So, we’re on to the second thing.

So the digestive enzymes need to have a well-balanced blend to help the digestion. And this is the thing that has a lot of
people not benefit from their food, and each time they eat, instead of having a healing effect on the body; it’s causing
damage, even if the foods are healthy. And it’s very surprising, people can spend their whole paycheck at Whole Foods
and can be eating organic, and all these things can like make sense when you look at it, but then you see people will
eat and still get cramping in their gut, which shows that they just did damage. And why did they do damage when they
ate something really good? It’s because their body’s not producing what it needs to be able to secrete the right acids
and the right function of the pancreas and other digestive organs to get the most out of our food and to prevent it
from turning into a trash bin inside your gut. So, digestive enzymes and the right formulas are so effective to combine
with the probiotics to effectively change people’s health and balance the gut bacteria and make food work for you,
not against you. So they’re a must at every meal.
GUT HEALTH — DIGESTIVE ENZYMES
Jonathan Otto: Dr.Raj, when it comes to digestive enzymes, do you believe that they’re important and why?
Dr. Raj Banerjee: Well, yes, they’re very important, and that’s because, after the age of 40 ... now, we’re seeing it
even in the 30’s, most people don’t have enough digestive enzymes that their body can produce that they’re actually
digesting. So, very, very important.
Jonathan Otto: Got it. And so, are there certain foods or is it better to find it in supplements?
Dr. Raj Banerjee: I think supplements would be the best, but if you don’t have supplements, then you could get it
through foods like apple cider vinegar, would be a really good source, Apple Cider with the Mother, raw would be a
nice source, if you can tolerate it. But if you can tolerate supplements, absolutely.
Dr. Raj Banerjee: And with digestive enzymes, for example, if someone had to take one supplement and that’s all they
want to take, I would give them a digestive enzyme.
Jonathan Otto: Got it. And what other kinds of improvements do you see with your patients when you put them on
a digestive enzyme?
Dr. Raj Banerjee: They are ... let’s see. I mean, they’re not having bloating. They’re not having gas. They don’t feel like
they’re full all the time because food’s not sitting there and rotting. Sometimes they have better bowel movement.
Sometimes they’re sleeping better, and their skin’s getting better, clearing up.
Jonathan Otto: Wow. And so, what do you think about the statement, “You are what you eat” when it comes to di-
gestive enzymes?
Dr. Raj Banerjee: Yes, you are what you eat, but there’s, again, something a little bit more than that, right? You are
what you eat and absorb because you could eat all the right foods, you could do everything right, but if you can’t
absorb and digest the food, you might as well eat garbage because that’s probably what’s going to happen. It’s going
to sit there and rot.
Jonathan Otto: Wow. And so, do digestive enzymes solve that problem?
Dr. Raj Banerjee: Yeah. If you can get the right ones, absolutely.
Jonathan Otto: Yeah. Got it. And what do you look for when you’re looking for a digestive enzyme?
Dr. Raj Banerjee: The first thing I look for is how the patient can tolerate it because there’s so many different ones out
there and there are a lot of really good ones out there, too. But patients, for some reason they can’t tolerate, certain
ones are too strong, or they have ulcers or they have a lot of damage to their gut. So, those patients, you have got to
go something really slow so that they can tolerate that, and they can move them to the other ones that could be a
little bit more effectual.
Jonathan Otto: Got it. And then, how soon do you think somebody should be able to tell whether they’re getting an
improvement or a detriment from their digestive enzyme?
Dr. Raj Banerjee: Within a couple of days.
DIGESTIVE ENZYMES
John Schott: The digestive enzyme? You want amylase, protease, lipase, which is pretty standard. Basically, each one
of those goes after carbohydrate, protein and fat. a lot of digestive enzymes are pretty standard, and they work. My
focus with my clients is to make sure the minerals start to become balanced. Make sure you’re not going too low salt,
you need some sodium. And eventually just wean them off of that, because at the end of the day you don’t want to
be having to take let’s say digestive enzymes for the rest of your lives, and things like that.
INTRO — GUT HEALTH — COLON – DR. DANIEL NUZUM
Dr. Daniel Nuzum: I like Vitamin D to get the enzyme pathways going in the body. I also would use digestive enzymes
initially. Digestive enzymes, initially in the first stage of detoxing the gut in particular, it’s digestive enzymes that start
reducing the deposits of waste in the gut. They go and start digesting the waste that’s been accumulating so it’s easier
to move. So the gut doesn’t have to work so hard moving downstream, if you will. Well, at the same time, using a gentle
colon cleansing product of some sort, as we’re talking a nutritional protocol, that’s kind of where I would start with
patients to get them, get things moving for them.
One of the things that help with loosening that up initially is digestive enzymes. But if they don’t have enough of the
proteolytic enzymes, it doesn’t seem to break things apart very easily. That’s something that really helps upfront.
When you’re just starting detoxing, it also helps with reflux, and indigestion, and those types of things. Other things
would start benefiting from you taking a digestive enzyme to begin with. That’s something I do very, very consistently
with patients. That’s one of the first things I put them on, is a digestive enzyme. We use something to support colon,
movement of the colon and drainage of the lymphatic system. That’s kind of an initial stage. For me, working with
patients, that’s something where I start initially.
LEAKY GUT AND DIGESTIVE ENZYMES – DR. RUDY MUELLER
Dr. Rudy Mueller: With digestive enzymes, I mean one of the core things you want to be looking for is hydrochloric
acid. What we’ll see as patients age, that, that will start to decrease. Hydrochloric acid is not only to help you break
down protein, but protect your gastrointestinal tract from certain infections, right? If something comes in on your food,
the hydrochloric acid and the acidic environment of the stomach will then kill it.
Then the other thing is to help with absorption and creation of different nutrients, right? When it comes to other en-
zymes and things, if we’re going to supplement with pancreatic enzymes, so we’re talking lipases, proteases, things
that break down carbohydrates, proteins, amylase, and fats. Right?

And so, digestive enzymes are extremely important for our ability to then absorb nutrients, and break down nutrients,
to then be able to absorb them. But also, it’s the help with decreasing the likelihood of getting food sensitivities. Right?
GUT HEALTH — DIGESTIVE HEALTH — DETOX — NATURAL PRODUCTS – DR. PETER KAN
Dr. Peter Kan: Sure. I’m going to tell you, Jonathan, in general, always look at the root cause. In some people their
digestion ... or they cannot secrete stomach acid because they have decreased vagal output. The brain is not innervat-
ing the gut because of that vagus nerve that tells the stomach to secrete acid. If that’s the case, then taking digestive
enzymes alone may not be enough. Taking digestive enzyme will be a Band-Aid or a replacement ... which is fine be-
cause you still need to restore that function, but we may need to fix other things as well.
Other people, it’s not really so much of a stomach acid problem. They have more of a pancreatic enzyme insufficiency
where they’re just not making enough amylase and lipase, and they just don’t digest anything well.
It’s kind of a case-by-case basis. But I think, in general, digestive enzyme ... We can include things that ... Basically,
you have three main foodstuff, right? You have carbohydrates, fats, and protein. So if you have an enzyme that can
address the digestion of those three major foodstuffs, you accomplish the purpose. Then, we can talk about dosing or
how much. But it doesn’t really matter, because even if we take an enzyme that has a certain amount of dose, if you
feel like that’s not enough, just take more of it. As long as you’re covering the three major foodstuffs ... fats, protein,
carbohydrates ... You’re in business.
And if it’s not sufficient or you feel that you’re not getting good result, you don’t have to necessarily change to a differ-
ent product. You might just take more of that product. It’s one of those things that you can dynamically dose up until
you get the desired outcome as well. One thing I would like to add, though, is some people.
DIGESTIVE ENZYMES – DR. RAJ BANERJEE AND JONATHAN OTTO
Jonathan Otto: Fantastic. Do you believe that digestive enzymes and probiotics in two separate supplements do well
together?
Dr. Raj Banerjee : You want to separate them because you don’t want to take probiotics when you’re trying to digest
because it’s a numbers game at that point. You want to take the probiotics; you want to make sure you don’t kill them
off, so you don’t really want your digestion to be happening at that point.
Jonathan Otto: Got it. How much time would you take between your probiotic supplement and your digestive enzymes?
Dr. Raj Banerjee : I tell people either one hour before food or two hours after food.
Jonathan Otto: For the probiotic?
Dr. Raj Banerjee : Yeah, so empty stomach basically.
Jonathan Otto: Got it and then what about with the digestive enzyme?
Dr. Raj Banerjee : Depends on the digestive enzyme. Certain ones you take right before and if you’re taking HCl
Hydrochloric version of it, you take it right after the food.
Jonathan Otto: Got it and then right before versus right after is based on whether it has the HCL or not?
Dr. Raj Banerjee : Yeah.
GUT HEALTH — DIGESTIVE HEALTH — DETOX — NATURAL PRODUCTS
Dr. Peter Kan: Yeah, so you’ve got it covered, right? You have the lipase which breaks down fat. You have a protease
which breaks down protein, and you have your Bromelain and Papain which are proteolytic enzyme that specifically
break down protein.
But, again, you can just use apple cider vinegar in addition to that as well. It just depends on preference and how many
bottles people want to take.
Jonathan Otto: And what’s the ingredient there in apple cider vinegar that you’re looking for?
Dr. Peter Kan: Just apple cider vinegar. Make it organic, right? Make it good high quality. It doesn’t matter. Just make
sure it’s organic because apple cider vinegar is apple cider vinegar.
Jonathan Otto: Capsule form, is that okay?
Dr. Peter Kan: Capsule form will still work.
Jonathan Otto: It takes away the taste of some
Dr. Peter Kan: Yeah.
Jonathan Otto: You know what I mean? Some people have an issue with the taste.
Dr. Peter Kan: Absolutely, yeah.
Jonathan Otto: I don’t mind the taste. But most people find it too tart.
Dr. Peter Kan: They can take a teaspoon and just put it ... or a tablespoon ... how much they want to take. Again, that
could be dosed up. You can just put that in some water. That will dilute it. They don’t have to take it straight up. Just
kind of dilute it and drink it and that can work, too.
Jonathan Otto: And what did you say it can change into which is helpful in this digestive enzyme?
Dr. Peter Kan: Okay. That’s really a good question because we think that the acid is just the stomach acid. So when you
take an apple cider vinegar or you take it in a supplement form, you’re adding the acid to the stomach. But that’s not
all it does. The acid in the stomach is what stimulates the pancreas to secrete the enzyme. Without the acid ... Really
the acid is the top of that domino. It triggers downstream effect on your digestion, so you absolutely need the acid.
We can take enzymes or we can just get acid in there and that can help the pancreas to secrete the enzyme unless
your pancreas just not making enzyme because you have diabetes. Your pancreas is not working. You have pancreatic
insufficiency, or you have decreased brain output ... We keep referring back to the brain which is a very overlooked
part of digestion.
TESTING: PEGGY’S ANALYSIS
Dr. Daryl Gioffre: So this is called the oxidated stress test. This is basically looking at how your body is aging. How
inflammation is affecting your blood. So this would be what we call a very strong constitution. One little pink dot would
be like a thousand red blood cells. You want to see all these kind of black lines which is the fibrin which holds the blood
together so here that’s actually good. This would be an example of a highly degenerative state.

I was telling you about my father’s story and I was testing his blood every two months or so during his cancer which is
one of the main reasons why I was so happy that I had this information. Two months before he passed from cancer
this is what his blood looked like. So these white areas are called PPP’s. Polymerized protein puddles. What that sig-
nifies is just massive inflammation of your blood. The blood has basically just lost its constitution. It’s breaking down.
What’s amazing is that the course of the three years of the cancer we used this blood testing to see how his body was
responding to the protocols we were doing. I really believe that this analysis helped us with giving him the right things
and seeing what worked and what didn’t work. And seeing all these other types of anomalies that can happen when
toxic things show up, or deficiencies show up.
JONATHAN OTTO: THE MICROBIOME
The microbiome or gut environment is composed of trillions of microbes, made up of bacteria, fungi and viruses living
in unison, inside and on our bodies, and co-evolving with humans to benefit both since the beginning. Some research-
ers say that we have as many as 10 times more microbial cells than human cells — meaning we are composed of both
non-human and human cells. In fact it would be very difficult to survive without a gut microbiome. Recent studies have
explained that each of our microbiomes is unique and is created during the first 1000 days of life evolving as we grow
and based on the foods we eat.
As you are aware some bacteria are synonymous with disease, however others are extremely important to our immune
system and general health altogether.
The gut microbiome may also affect the central nervous system responsible for brain function, controls our weight and
boosts our moods. In fact 90% of our serotonin, “the feel good hormone”, is produced in the gut by good gut bacteria
which can alleviate depression, anxiety, and even lowers cortisol levels.
Maintaining a healthy gut will support a balanced system and can affect many important bodily functions having a
great influence our health.
Our experts will explain how nutrients like fulvic minerals, humic acids, prebiotics and probiotics can help restore a
healthy gut microbiome.
Beneficial for optimal digestion, essential in controlling and maintaining a healthy weight, boosting energy levels... the
super solutions you will learn here today also help neutralize toxins, provide antioxidant protection from the damage
of free radicals, support immune function, provide better digestion of plant-based foods, promote better absorption
and use of nutrients and promote a healthy gut flora through the growth of beneficial gut bacteria.
HOW TO REBUILD THE MICROBIOME: PREBIOTICS — PROBIOTICS
ANTIBIOTICS — STATS
Jonathan Otto: The next time your doctor prescribes a round of antibiotics for you or someone in your family, you
may want to look him or her in the eye and ask, “Are these drugs really, really necessary?” Because according to the
data published by the Center for Disease Control, the CDC, in the Journal of the American Medical Association, at least
30% of all the antibiotics prescribed in the U.S. are unnecessary. The CDC also admits that half of the prescriptions
for acute respiratory conditions are not needed, since these conditions are often caused by viruses, which, as you
probably know, don’t even respond to antibiotics. Plus, the CDC reports that the use of antibiotics is not warranted
when it comes to treating milder bacterial infections.
Do you have children or grandchildren? Well, another study published by the American Academy of Pediatrics reported
something else that is absolutely appalling. 11.4 million unnecessary antibiotic prescriptions are given to children and
teens every year in the U.S. So, not only does over-prescribing these drugs and lead to more dangerous, even deadly
drug resistant infections, it also demolishes your microbiome, the ecosystem of microorganisms that inhabit your gut.
MICROBIOME
Dr. Joel Fuhrman: Right. The right foods fuel the right microbiome, and the right foods actually have a different effect
on probiotics because when you eat those four protected foods, we’re talking about two raw and two cooked. The two
raw foods are raw green cruciferous and raw onion family, and the two cooked foods are cooked beans and lentils and
cooked mushrooms, because those foods have the effect to grow the microbiome so it thickens the biofilm covering
the villi. And it thickens the biofilm covering the villi means it slows the glycemic effect of all foods.
So when you eat a mango in the morning, that glycemic effect of that mango was slowed because you regularly eat
beans and mushrooms cooked and raw greens and onion, because now your microbiome is slowing the glycemic
effect of that food.
PROBIOTICS
Peggy’s Analysis
Dr. Daryl Gioffre: Then probiotics is an important thing because of gut health, so that’s an important thing for us to
do. And of course Omega-3 fatty acids. That’s the core of what we do. Even my kids take those things, minus the iodine
at a smaller level. Based on what we see here, we’ll just add a few things to that. Then, we’ll do that and we’ll retest in
four months and then you’ll probably be off of those things assuming all this gets cleared up. Then you’ll just be on a
course of things that are just good for wellness and for longevity that we all should be doing every day.
GUT HEALTH
Dr. Daniel Fenster: I believe the more supplementation, within reason that you can do, the better. So there are some
basics that people should be taking. I think everybody should be taking a multivitamin, fish oil, a probiotic. Those things,
those three basics are really, really, really important. The importance of gut health is only now, in my opinion, begin-
ning to come out. I read an article this morning about the importance of gut health in mental health. And as we know,
mental health is a tremendous issue in this country. If your gut is healthier and has certain probiotics in there, that
will help your mental health. This is a new field just emerging, and it cannot be spoken about enough, in my opinion.
WHAT DOES IT TAKE?
Jonathan Otto: So, what does it take to restore your gut to health? Our medical experts recommend a comprehen-
sive protocol that includes probiotics in addition to some other healing nutrients. After everything you’ve heard me
say today, you can understand why probiotics are so vital. Many people become confused about buying probiotics,
because there are so many choices out there. As with most things in life, all probiotics are not the same. So, when you
look for a high-quality probiotic formula, here are some tips to keep in mind.
Studies show that multi-strain formulas work more effectively than single strain probiotics. That’s because everyone’s
microbiome is unique and some strains do different things and work better in different parts of the GI tract. Here are
four proven bacterial strains: lactobacillus acidophilus. This strain is well known for overall support of beneficial intes-

tinal flora. Bifidobacterium lactis. This strain provides digestive and immune support. Lactobacillus plantarum. This
strain is one of the most beneficial bacteria in your body known for digestive support, as well as support for healthy
cholesterol. And lastly, lactobacillus paracasei. This one offers a range of benefits including digestive regularity and
enhanced immune function.
Another thing to look for is a probiotic formula with a proven delivery system that improves survival of the living bacte-
ria. With many inferior probiotic supplements, few bacteria survive as they travel through your acid-laden environment
of your digestive tract. And so, you should use a formula that also includes prebiotics. Prebiotics represent a nourishing
food source for healthy gut bacteria. As Hippocrates said over 2000 years ago, “All disease begins in the gut.” We’ve
seen that a combination of three factors when included together has such a revolutionary impact on your health.
PROBIOTICS
Dr. Sruti Lam: So, here are some of the few vegetables, fruits, and nuts that we spoke about. We are learning more
and more about the gut brain axis, and all the different probiotics. Probiotics are basically live bacteria that our body
needs. Our gut has trillions of live organisms, and they are increased by eating a different variety of food. That can
come from nuts. It can come from fibers. It can come from just eating fruits and vegetables that have different diges-
tive enzymes released in our body.
So, make sure your plate is colorful. The more the color, the more the different enzymes that are released, different
reactions in our body that take place, and it helps kill different bacteria, or opportunistic organisms that are in your
body that might cause infection. So, more colorful, more fiber, more pnutrients, the healthier you are.
LEAKY GUT — POSTBIOTICS
Dr. Rudy Mueller: The other is digestive enzymes, which we mentioned earlier, and its importance to helping with
decreasing the chance of food sensitivities to occur. But as well as short chain fatty acids. Short chain fatty acids factors
are the exhaust of the car. When you’re putting gasoline in the car, the engine runs and turns it into exhaust. When you
put in certain fibrous foods, and you have the proper microbiome, they interact, and then create these things called
post-biotics, one of which is short chain fatty acids, which is a family of different things.
That in of itself has been an immense help for some of our patients with leaky gut, as well as leaky brain, where the
blood brain barrier now has the same problem as the gut did, and now we’re having immune reaction to our brain
tissue, and having neurodegeneration. Short chain fatty acids help with sealing the gut. They help with modulating
the immune system, meaning telling the immune system that it’s safe, right? Telling the immune system that it’s a
safe place right now. We don’t have to be so inflamed, we don’t have to be so stressed, and so therefore the immune
system starts to react less and less.
We also utilize short chain fatty acids, or supplementing with prebiotics that feed our bugs, our probiotic bugs, to then
create these things that we reference as post-biotics. Meaning it’s the result of the interaction of these two things, right?
The prebiotic being fibrous food. The microbe acts on it, and then creates short chain fatty acids. Some people we can’t
recommend fibrous food, because it causes a problem in their gastrointestinal tract, or they might have sensitivity to
it, so we provide short chain fatty acids as the supplement that now allows the healing of the gut. One of the roles of
short chain fatty acids is to help heal and seal. Other ones are to decrease inflammation in the gastrointestinal tract,
as well as improve the blood brain barrier, and decreasing inflammatory reactions in the brain. I think it’s one supple-
ment that we’re learning more about, but it’s essential to now come in and supplement with that.
Short chain fatty acid is the exhaust of the, you put gasoline into your car, the car creates exhaust, right? The engine
runs, and now creates exhaust. It is the fibers, the prebiotics mixing with the bacteria, munching on and utilizing them
for fuel, and it’s their exhaust that is the short chain fatty acids. Their short chain fatty acids are butyrate, propionate,
and acetate. Those are the ones that we utilize, so it’s a combination product that we utilize that provides that.
CLOSING
Are you beginning to see the connection between toxic environmental exposures, prescription medication, highly pro-
cessed and chemically treated foods, and a failing digestive system and subsequent increase in chronic health issues
manifesting problems not only in the gut but also elsewhere in the body?
Dr. Marcelo Campos said it best in the following statement on a Harvard health blog post on the topic: “A common
initial step some practitioners take is to remove foods that can be inflammatory and could promote changes in the
gut flora. Among the most common are alcohol, processed foods, certain medications, and any foods that may cause
allergies or sensitivities. In my practice, I often see patients improve significantly when they start eating a healthier diet”.
SATIATION
Don DiLillo: When we’re putting these bad foods in our bodies, we get satisfied for a second because of the brain
chemicals. And then an hour later, we want to eat. I remember the first time I made my girlfriend a salad with these
foods. She was like I’m going to be hungry in an hour. And then she couldn’t even finish the salad because it was so
nutrient dense, and she was full for over six hours. So just eat higher quality foods that are nutrient dense and you’re
going to be helping yourself. If you really want to get a bang for your buck, grow it yourself at home with sprouting.

EPISODE 6
DETOXING: THE ELIMINATION PATHWAYS — LIVER, KIDNEYS,
AND LYMPHATIC SYSTEM
INTRO
Jonathan Otto: Detoxification pathways are our bodies way of eliminating waste. While cleansing the colon, getting
it moving, eliminating parasites, and building a healthy gut microbiome are all essential to good health, we must also
address the other organs that are essential to keeping our bodies running smoothly. The liver, kidneys, and lymphatic
system are three amazing detoxification systems in the body. However, when we are constantly bombarded with toxins,
these systems can become weighed down and toxic themselves. At this point they can no longer effectively clean out
the body. Heavy metal detoxing, supporting healthy kidney function and draining the lymphatic system are all steps
we need to take in restoring our body to its optimal state.
YOUR BODY NEEDS A VACATION
Jonathan Otto: I’m often asked how do I know if I need a detox? Does my body need detox? I can just make it simple
and say everybody needs to detoxify on a regular basis because that’s true. Just consider how you feel when you’ve
been working really hard for a long time. You feel mentally and physically worn out and you come to a point where
you know you need to take a break, a mental and physical break, like a vacation, a time to relax, reset, and restore
yourself so that you can go back to enjoy a normal, happy, energetic life again.
Well, your internal body operates much the same way. No matter how healthy your diet or lifestyle may be, our bodies
are all challenged every single day by an accumulation of toxins, waste, and even parasites that bog down our liver
and kidneys and clog up our colon. If we give them a detox on a regular basis, this takes the pressure off, much like
a vacation does.
CLEANING THE HOUSE — CLEANING THE BODY
Dr. Peter Kan: The great way to look at it is ... I use the analogy, cleaning up the house, right? If you have a big party,
you want to clean up your house. The clean up of the house is the detox process. Now, when you cleaned up the
house, you’re not just sweeping the trash. You’re also mopping the floor. You also don’t have just one room you’ve
got to clean. You got to clean multiple rooms of your house to have a complete clean, right? So we are going to do a
real clean. And then, at the end of it, you’ve got to take all the trash out, and the trash guy’s going to pick it up. There
are several stages of that.
In that philosophy, then, you’ve got to support the liver ... big player ... gallbladder ... People tend to think liver, gallblad-
der’s just as important because gallbladder scores bile and that bile is important in binding to different hormones and
toxins so we can eliminate through the fecal route. You also need to have kidney support and even lymphatic support.
So in the liver side, you have your classic herbs like milk thistle. And then, on your gallbladder side, you have classic
herbs like Jerusalem artichoke or dandelion root. In the kidney, you have celery seed. And then, you can even talk
about chlorella as far as a good metal binder.
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In a good detox, you’re not just detoxing a metal. You’re not just trying to induce a bowel movement by creating di-
arrhea by giving somebody a laxative. A good detox really on the cellular level. You’re detoxing the whole body ... the
cells of the body ... because that’s where ... Toxins are not just store where macroscopically you can see. It’s also stored
microscopically inside the cell as well. So you aim for a cellular detox, and that means you’ve got to clean the whole
house. And that requires a multi-step process.
PHARMACEUTICALS, TOXINS, AND NATURAL MEDICINE
Sayer Ji: So, technically for me, it’s really, it’s almost a beautiful thing. And, when we re-contextualize that and say,
okay, well our body was exposed to toxicants all day long. I mean, there’s like 10,000 chemicals in our environment
daily that our bodies have to try to deal with. It could be radioisotopes in the food chain. It’s everywhere. You see
things like Strontium and Cesium, and it’s in our food chain post-Fukushima. Our bodies are incredible in the fact that
we’re still here alive, and even having this conversation. But, those ancient programs are designed for survival, and
they can, obviously, take over the entire body. Because unless we change the environment and detoxify, which is why
natural medicine is so beautiful. The allopaths freak out when you say detoxified. They’re like, that’s quackery. There’s
nothing to detoxify. We have a liver. Our body can filter out anything, and that’s just garbage. They’re just trying to sell
you supplements.
It’s absurd, because allopathy is based on poisoning the body. They’ve co-opted entire disciplines of science. Toxicology
is about trying to justify, often, how much crap and how much assault by chemicals your body can take. I mean, and
then of course, pharmacology is like applied toxicology. How much can we poison this human until they don’t die, and
maybe have a side effect that we can package as a therapeutic one. That is literally what they do.
They take these rats, they kill 50% with these lead compound drugs, and they say, well, we can deduce an acceptable
level of harm in a human from these studies, all these dead rats laying around. And we’ll just give the human this much,
and then we’ll try to get approval for it. I mean, the whole system by which allopathy operates is really all about either
trying to monetize and market poisoning, or mitigate the perception that you are being poisoned.
So, natural medicine advocates are just sitting back here like really, okay, then we’ll start with, let’s detoxify the body.
The body is incredible, but it’s going to continue to fight itself, it’s going to continue to manifest symptoms that look
like disease, because that’s allopathy’s magic trick. Oh, you’ve got symptoms. We’re going to throw Latin and Greek
terminology on it, so that you don’t know what we’re talking on it any more, and just pretend like the name is a disease,
that now just exists somewhere out there in imaginary space.
How about the symptoms are your body’s way of healing, and messaging that something’s wrong? How about we re-
spect them, and how about we get back to the basics? Remove the interference. So, you take the toxicants out of the
body. There’s lots of ways you can do that, through the bowels, through the skin, you do it through the lungs. There
are many ways you can enhance that process.
And then of course, then you nourish the body with that amazing life-giving information-containing food, right, that
was grown organically, or better biodynamically. You suck in the elements, right? You’ve got the air, you’ve got the sun,
you ground your body, and your body is this miraculous instrument.
So, I’m just a big fan of just going for the simple fact that yes, natural medicine is how you heal your body. And yes, in
emergency circumstances, we might need drugs to save our body if the limbs are falling off or whatever. But, most of
it is really basic. Detoxify, nourish, get your mind straight, know that you can heal, because if you don’t believe it, you’ll
get sucked into the medical merry-go-round. They’ll suck you right up.

TOXIC EXPOSURE: ENVIRONMENTAL
The real question is how did these toxins get there in the first place? We all know some common factors, like air
pollution, food and water contaminates, and chemical cleaners. But, there are so many more sources of toxins that
we are being exposed to, such as dental fillings, vaccines, personal care products, cosmetics, cloth materials sprayed
with chemicals, like our pillows, sheets, and carpets. According to the CDC, the very air we breathe is filled with small
aluminum particles that are toxic to our system. Our bodies are well-adapted to fight and flush out these toxins,
however, the increasing toxic overload of our environment and lifestyle choices, is getting to a point that many peo-
ple’s body’s are breaking down.
But there is hope. We don’t have to live like this. Sometimes, when we hear that there are so many things filled with
toxins all around us, it feels futile to try and combat these things. But it’s not as complicated as it may seem. There
are simple things that you can do to bring about amazing transformations in your body, health and even your energy
levels. In this episode we’ll dive in deeper on these issues and help you really understand what you can do to experi-
ence this for yourself.
TOXIC ENVIRONMENT
Dr. Daniel Nuzum: It’s amazing how ... The thing is 2000 years ago, the human body wasn’t much different than it is
today. It didn’t change much, you know? It hadn’t changed much at all really, so what was healing to us 2000 years ago,
3000 years ago, 5000 years ago is still very healing to us today. I would say the only thing that’s really changed is we
intoxicated our environment, so the things that we’re toxic with today are a little more difficult to get rid of than the
things we were toxic with a thousand years ago or 2000 years ago, so on and so forth. It takes a little more ingenuity
on our part in figuring out how to get rid of these things because you know, our environment isn’t necessarily getting
better.
ENVIRONMENT AND GENETICS
Jonathan Otto: Where are these exposures coming from?
Dr. Jay Davidson: They’re coming from our environment. They’re coming from our family, unfortunately, and they’re
coming from things that we put inside of our body. They’re coming from the food supply. We know that the vast majority
of food supply is contaminated with chemicals like pesticides and heavy metals. They actually have done research on
high fructose corn syrup, which you’d be amazed when you actually read the label of a food product how often high
fructose corn syrup is in there. Sixty percent of the time they actually found mercury in that high fructose corn syrup.
As simple as just getting higher quality food can actually lessen your exposure to some of these toxic metals. We know
that amalgams, the silver fillings within our mouth are actually 50% weight mercury, and the issue is here that ADA,
American Dental Association still to this day says, “You know what? Those are safe. I don’t think they’re an issue. When
you put them in, they harden and they’re fine.” If you think about it, if the silver fillings in my mouth are mercury and
before they go in the mouth, they’re hazardous material and you have to handle them very carefully in the dental
office, then when they’re in my mouth they’re magically safe and then if I get them removed, now that material now
is hazardous and I have to dispose of them correctly. How does it go from hazardous to safe to hazardous? I’m pretty
sure it’s hazardous the whole time. What do we do when we eat? We chew our food. We put compression on there.
We drink hot things like tea and coffee that then cause more vapors and mercury to actually be released. Where is it
being released to? As a vapor, we’re breathing it in right to the brain. Mercury is a very high affinity for the brain. We’re
looking at amalgam fillings were looking at food supply.
ORAL HEALTH & BIOLOGICAL DENTISTRY
Jonathan Landsman: So I’ve been talking about this for several years now. The most overlooked health problem in
conventional and integrated medicine is poor oral health. I think this is a really important message, especially for those
who are suffering with autoimmune disorders. I’m talking specifically about mercury based silver fillings, root canal
treated teeth gum disease and even cavitations and, no, I’m not talking about cavities. I’m talking about cavitations,
which are bone infections that are a byproduct of improperly extracting teeth. All of these issues that are happening
inside the mouth are definitely affecting in one way or another somebody who’s dealing with an autoimmune disorder.
I mean, we all know what the symptoms are, right? We’re talking about brain fog, we’re talking about chronic fatigue,
auto-immune diseases also go into things, like neurological disorders, blurred vision. The list goes on and on. All of
these symptoms that people feel are a byproduct of chronic inflammation, right? So we’re talking about anti-inflam-
matories. We always hear about living an anti-inflammatory lifestyle.
But so much of the topic is still not focused on poor oral health issue and so I just hope that people who are dealing
with these issues and feel like they’ve been trying to do the best they can, eating really well, taking the best quality
nutritional supplements, trying to reduce their mental, emotional stress, things like this that they’ll also just add to the
equation looking at these poor oral health issues.
Jonathan Otto: Is there a connection between silver fillings in the mouth and autoimmune disease?
Jonathan Landsman: Without a doubt. Mercury-based silver fillings absolutely play a huge role in people dealing with
these autoimmune symptoms. For example, let me just tell you a story of somebody who I know. I did a podcast with
them on Natural Health 365 and she told the story about how she was relatively okay, but had a lot of mercury based
silver fillings in her mouth. She goes to the dentist one day and they replace of those mercury fillings with another
mercury filling. All the drilling, all the mercury that was released into her body, literally within a week, she noticed that
her eye was shutting down. She was losing all the vision in one of them and she was literally, over time, eventually
diagnosed with lupus and MS. All of the simple symptoms that were crippling her really stemmed from these mercury
based silver fillings. She realized that by doing research on the internet, looking at programs like this, seeing, “Wow,
this release of mercury was literally poisoning the rest of my body, affecting my neurological system, affecting my
vision,” and so, yes.
Without a doubt, mercury based silver fillings do have a serious impact not only on our digestive system, our immune
system, but absolutely on our neurological system as well and the main message here is to make sure that when it’s
time for you to deal with this and wanted these removed, that you make sure that you remove them safely with a
well-trained biological dentist.
I want to talk a little bit about, obviously, for those who feel ready to get rid of these mercury-based silver fillings. I
mean, I personally had 14 dental amalgams, these mercury-based silver fillings in my mouth. I knew for years I had
to take care of it. In fact, I had a conventionally trained dentist who was one of my clients in the health and fitness
industry that I was in, running these health clubs, who offered to take all of them out, no problem at all and it’s funny.
Even before I got into all of these programs about biological dentistry and how to take out these mercury based silver
fillings properly, something on an intuitive level made me feel like this wasn’t a good idea and certainly my wife helped
me as well saying, “No way should you let this dentist do what he was about to do,” which is really extract all these
silver fillings out of my mouth without protecting himself, without protecting his staff or me, for that matter at all.

So in terms of extracting mercury based silver fillings, make sure you’re going to a well-trained biological dentists who’s
going to go through all kinds of different procedures with you. For example, oxygen in the nose, a very big suction
device, a tube that’ll be put very close to your mouth to draw all the airflow away from your mouth, especially when
they’re drilling those mercury fillings out of your mouth. Make sure that it’s in a special room. A lot of these biological
dentists who get it have a very special dedicated room for mercury extraction where the airflow is really good, where
they’re ionizing the air as well and there’s a lot of water that’s used to keep the heat down when they’re doing the
drilling. There are also other very important tips, which I had done personally, which I thought was really brilliant. My
biological dentist had me rinse with charcoal. Now it doesn’t look very pretty. Your mouth is really black.
But he had me swish around a lot, this charcoal based liquid and them actually swallow it down into my body so that
there would be a coating all through my esophagus and my digestive tract and of course, all throughout my mouth so
that any kind of mercury that would possibly get loose would be drawn directly to that charcoal and then eliminated
out of my body without it getting absorbed into my body. I spend a lot of time talking about this because if you’re
suffering with an autoimmune condition or any other serious chronic health problem, it’s really important that you
don’t add a toxic burden and if you get these fillings improperly removed, you could cause yourself a world of hurt. So
please be careful in how you extract. I want to talk also about root canal treated teeth. A lot of people say, “Well, my
God, what am I going to do?” There are alternatives, right? Now, we won’t get too much into the implant situation. But
there are different ways that you can do an implant. There are issues around that as well.
But in many cases, when someone has a tooth that is so severely infected because it was root canal treated too, they
can sometimes just pull it out. It depends on the age of the person, obviously, their priorities in life, where the tooth
is located in the mouth as well. That’s an important thing. If it’s in the back of the mouth, a lot of times, you can keep
that space there as well. It’s a deeply personal situation. But I’ll tell you, if someone’s got their skin is itching, they just
can’t get going during the day, their energy is so low, they’re certainly dealing with some kind of cardiovascular prob-
lems or cancer of any kind. There have just been too many cases where I have literally seen that people have had their
mercury extracted from their mouth properly, safely. They’ve had these root canal treated teeth that are fully infected
pulled out of their mouth and properly cleaned out and ozone therapy that’s used. It’s interesting.
ORAL HEALTH AND MICROBIOME OF THE MOUTH
Nadine Artemis: One thing to understand about the mouth is that the mouth is alive, the teeth are alive, and the tissue
in the mouth can regenerate. It was good for me when I realized that, because I feel like I grew up thinking you go to
the dentist, you get a cavity, and your teeth are like these rocks in your mouth. They’re already done and set. And you
don’t think that there’s a way to rejuvenate them, or turn something around, like if you’re on the path to getting a cavity.
So the teeth are alive, and there’s this very exciting microbiome in the mouth. It’s like keeping everything in balance. Yet
what we’re doing to the mouth on a daily basis, whether it’s the stuff that the dentist is doing, or the ways that we’ve
been taught to take care of our mouth, with the chemical-laden toothpaste, and mouthwash, and sticking out the top
that chemical-laden toothpaste in the mouthwashes that kind of thing, which are really throwing off the homeostasis
of our mouth’s oasis. We’ve got to bring that back into balance.
With dentistry-like practices, there could be a whole trifecta of things that create this perfect storm for our mouths
to... sorry... to come out of balance. You want to look at your daily care and also understand how a cavity is formed.
In the 1940s, it was decided that it was just going to be the acidogenic theory of decay, so that acids and sugars on
the teeth are the cause of cavities.
There were rumblings that there might be systemic, and that maybe our teeth are hooked up to the rest of our body,
but that was ditched for the acidogenic theory. What we now know through the work of people like Dr. Ralph Steinman
is that the teeth are connected to the body. There’s a whole systemic connection to the bloodstream. And the teeth are
like a tree with roots. So the roots of the teeth draw up nutrients from the soil, from the body soil, and bring nutrients
into the pulp chamber of the tooth.
And then through an activity called odontoblast, this fluid... it’s actually called The Den teal transport fluid it’s like our
teeth have their own lymphatic system so this dentinal transport fluid. It’s like our teeth have their own lymphatic
system. So this dentinal fluid flows up through the roots, into the tooth, into the pulp chamber, and then goes out
onto the surface of the teeth like microscopic sweat.
But it’s good sweat. It’s got good nutrients in it. And then that coalesces with the saliva to balance the mouth’s micro-
biome and prevent cavities. And even if there’s a weakness and one of the teeth, there’ll be more activity, and saliva
will go there to try and heal it, kind of like sap going to a tree wound to heal it. So that’s when the body is functioning
properly. And what Dr. Ralph Steinman also found out was that this whole system is... because he figured it out, but
he was like, “But what’s activating that in the body? What’s messaging this system?”
And so he hooked up with Dr. Leonora, who was an endocrinologist. And what they discovered through thousands
of tests, is that the hypothalamus activates the parotid gland, which then activates different enzymatic actions in the
body. That’s the messenger that activates the dentinal fluid when the body’s in harmony. When there’s stress in the
body, eating too much sugar... again, not because the sugar on the teeth, but because the sugar is affecting the blood
supply, and the supply of nutrients to the bones and tissues.
When there is... so a high sugar or hormonal stress, like teenage times, or pregnant times, and different chemicals,
and now they even understand cell phone use. What this does, because the cellphone’s right near the parotid gland,
what this does is that it messages this dentinal lymph system to stagnate. And so then that flow of fluids is not going
onto the tooth anymore. It can just sort of stagnate.
But when things get worse, what happens is that that system reverses, and then the tooth becomes like a straw, and it
sucks in from the mouth. It’s literally instead of drawing nutrients up, it’s sucking in front of the mouth, and it’s bringing
in the bacteria and viruses that are in the mouth. So that’s really important for us to understand as sort of like a new
way to look at our mouths. And just sort of understanding the system around it, which will help us care for our teeth.
So we want to look at stresses or hormonal stresses, and of course looking at blood sugar, and nutrients in the diet,
and then things like Vitamin D3 and Vitamin K2, which work together. And they work together to usher minerals into
the bones. So if we’re low on fat soluble vitamins, then any minerals that were intaking aren’t necessarily going to
go into the bone. They’re just kind of going to circulate in the blood supply, which is not really where we want them.
We want them to go into the bones, which of course are also our teeth. So that’s important to know. Diet is so key for
preventing cavities, and then also the care for our mouths. So there’s some procedures, dentists that are also causing
bacterial issues in our bodies. And there’s a lot of integrative doctors today that really believe that 80% of everything
that could be a disease, or is going down that path in our bodies, really has its roots in our mouth health.
ORAL HEALTH & BIOLOGICAL DENTISTRY
Jonathan Otto: Why should we be concerned about root canal treated teeth?
Jonathan Landsman: Okay, so this is another, I know, very sensitive topic in terms of root canal treated teeth because
a lot of times, people don’t hear that root canal treated teeth could be a problem and here’s the main point I want
people to understand. Once this is done to the tooth, the tooth is a dead tooth and from that dead tooth, over time,
it is very easy for that tooth to be infected. Again, let me give you an example of my conversations, many, with Dr.

Thomas Levee, who had an incredible experience with how Huggins, who’s a pioneer in biological dentistry. He saw
firsthand how these root canal treated teeth are infected because over time, like I said, these are dead teeth that don’t
circulate at all anymore, like a normal tooth does. Blood circulation, the fluid that goes through these teeth is gone
once the treatment is done and then over time, this bacteria gathers around it, like mold at the bottom of a shower,
and it builds up over time and then that infection doesn’t just stay around the tooth. But it spills into the rest of the
body, into the bloodstream, into the lymphatics.
So again, these root canal treated teeth, they really, if they’re infected, which in many cases, according to Dr. Levee and
Dr. Huggins and so many other integrative health care providers I’ve spoken to, so many of these teeth are infected
and the worse part is so often, they’re not even detected by conventional X-rays where these infections are. They have
to be dealt with. People must realize that to clean up these infected teeth in the mouth is going to take a huge relief
off the immune system and they’re going to see their symptoms fade away in many cases.
ORAL HEALTH AND BIOLOGICAL DENTISTS
Nadine Artemis: I mean also in my book I have these two examples of different journalists. One was in Canada;
one was in the States. And so the journalist in Canada had her mouth assessed by a top professional dentists at the
University of Toronto. Then she traveled across Canada. So they had, I think she just needed a crown replaced one
thing. So she went to 20 different dentists across Canada. And they all had different things. And they all said, “You need
this.” I mean it was the full scope from like, “Oh you need all your teeth removed and capped.” To like, “Oh, you’ve got
other cavities.” All that kind of stuff.
And the same thing with this person, a journalist in the States who went to 50 dentists and again, he only needed one
thing done and it was very similar. I think it was another crown. And again it was from a $500 to $30,000 he was being
quoted on. And they’re going to all of the dentists with the same x-ray.
So what I love about those examples is besides just that it might be totally depressing to find that out, is that I feel
like dentistry and even doctors, it seems so black and white. It’s an x ray, it’s black and white. We’ve all got to have the
same reproach, and it just shows you it could be anything. And maybe it depends on insurance. And how you’re being
quoted. So there is a lot going on there and so it’s very important to find a practitioner that really works with you.
And in that regard too, so they’re going to have different approaches. But what we really know now from the most
advanced holistic biological dentistry is that... So that’s why I’m saying this is because you may need a root canal, but
you may not. That just could be that doctor’s opinion. And you could go to another dentist and they’d be like, “No,
actually I think that’s just a cavity we can fill.” So you want to really know all your options in that phase.
But an infection in the tooth can be dangerous and may need to be dealt with. Some can turn around, some cannot. It’s
like you’re going to need that professional knowledge and an x ray to really figure that out. But if your tooth really is a
candidate to be removed. You just a 100% of the time, never want to get a root canal. So your options are to remove
the tooth, but you still want to have that extraction done properly.
All biological dentists will now remove the periodontal ligament from the tooth at the same time to prevent any kind of
jaw cavitations. But in the regular dental world it is still standard practice to leave the periodontal ligament in. You can
be at a regular dentist and you can ask for that additional removal. Hopefully they’ll know, you really want to check in
that they know what they’re doing. So there are options. If you need a root canal you can have it removed. And if it’s a
back molar you really can leave that space. The other dentists I’ve spoken to said, “Your face won’t cave in. It’s okay.” I
mean if you had a lot of teeth removed from the back, you could have an issue. But if it’s just one, you can simply have
that space in your mouth and you’ll get used to it.
You could have a temp put in, which is just like a tooth you can pop in and out. And then the other option is a bridge,
but that, it’s a bit of a rock and a hard place to make that choice because you would have to shave off a bit of healthy
teeth on either side to have that bridge.
Then the other choice right now is to have an implant. And a titanium implant is never something you would want in
your mouth. It’s a heavy metal, it’s toxic to the body and anything that we’re adding to our body that’s not part of our
body, like some foreign object, there will be an autoimmune response. So from studies in Europe and through differ-
ent biological dentists, they’re using something called zirconium, which has actually been used for a while in Europe.
And it seems to be the best immune compatible choice if you do need to get an implant. So you want to, again, a
good dentist will know about titanium, they won’t have it in their office, they will have zirconium and that’s the best
alternative I’ve seen to date.
Another thing you know would be a filling, filling material. You want to go to a dentist that’s going to have the cleanest
options. And then do a blood serum compatibility test with those materials to see what your immune system is going
to be the most compatible with. You don’t want to be getting silver fillings. Those are actually literally mercury fillings
and they’re banned in many countries, so not banned yet in the United States. They’re banned from pregnant — you
can’t put them in a pregnant woman’s mouth.
Mercury fillings are an issue. They’re 50% mercury and then it’s other heavy metals in there like silver and nickel and
copper. And those can have a pretty devastating effect on the health. So heavy metals like mercury, they will also
feed pathogens. Dr. Hal Huggins said that pathogens ate heavy metals for breakfast. There’s a good union there.
Interestingly enough, the FDA, the EPA says that for example, if I threw two mercury filled teeth into my lake, there’s
about a 30 acre lake here. That lake, you wouldn’t be able to swim in it because the amount of mercury in there. Yet,
they’re still putting these fillings in our head close to our brain. And to even remove a mercury filling, it’s a there’s a
huge protocol, Hazmat Protocol and it has to be disposed of properly.
But the mercury in that tooth did not change in any kind of alchemical way when it left your mouth and when it’s being
disposed of. It’s the same structure. And what we now know is that a mercury filling releases vapors into the body,
mercury vapors, 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Only to increase with hot liquids by releasing vapors, a 500% in-
crease in the release of vapors. So these are the things we know now about mercury fillings. And the mercury fillings
will release those vapors, whether they’re 40 years old or if it’s just been put in your mouth one day ago.
So that’s also something that can cause bleeding gums. The mercury in the teeth can cause bleeding gums, receding
gums. And then it can affect your whole gut microbiome as well. Not to mention the toxic burden of mercury that
might have an effect on the brain, and future things like dementia. So that’s another thing that you would want to get
cleaned up in your mouth. If you’re doing what’s called revisionist dentistry or minimalist dentistry where they’re really
looking to do the least amount of work that really clean up the toxic issues.
Other things that may need cleaning up in the mouth are the jaw cavitation. So if you have had wisdom teeth out in
your life or other extractions, you have your biological dentists look into that area. And it’s a simple procedure because
the tooth is already gone and they have their fine dental instruments. And they can usually just sort of sink one in and
see if the bones getting mushy. And then what they would do is so they’d open it up, scrape the bacteria off the job
bone, and then allow blood flow to create a blood clot, which helps to stabilize the area. And then if it’s a really good
dentist, they’ll in inject ozone into the area and then inject your own plasma into that area. Which will help bring all
the nutrients and stem cells to that area to rejuvenate the area and get rid of the infection.
So that’s something you would go to a biological dentist for. Normal dentists won’t even know what you’re talking
about, but it’s a really serious thing and it’s really good to get cleaned up. And studies show that 90% of people that
have had an extraction do have the beginnings of a jaw cavitation.

I actually had that myself and I got that cleared up. Even though we’re so healthy, it’s from older stuff and it’s just such
a tightly woven pocket that so much stuff can just get in there and it’s quite necrotic and that bacteria goes into the
bloodstream every day. So you’re healthy, but you could be taxing your immune system in a way that doesn’t need to
be done. And if you’re kind of feeling less than healthy that’s adding a toll to the body as well.
GUM DISEASE AND AUTOIMMUNE
Jonathan Landsman: Gum disease really comes down to simply seeing a little blood in the sink when you’re brushing
your teeth, right? It’s amazing to me when we even talk about this as being such a big issues that overlooked because
when you think about it, nowhere else in the body, if the pinkie was bleeding or if your toe was bleeding or your leg or
your arm, right away you would take care of it. But in so many cases, conventional dental offices are not really playing
this up as an important thing. When you’re bleeding like that, that is a clear sign that your mouth is infected. These
infections, again, will mix with saliva and go into the digestive system and people with autoimmune disorders know
all the time that so many of these problems in the mouth, like gum disease that we’re talking about right now affect
your digestive system and it’s also important to back step a little bit more and realize that our digestive system starts
in the mouth.
The tissues in our mouth, the gums are an indication of how the rest of our tissues in our body are doing. So when we
have gum disease and we have bleeding gums, that’s representative of inflammation throughout the entire body and it
must be addressed because if we don’t, again, that mixes with our saliva. It goes into our digestive system and causes
these conditions that so many people with autoimmune disorders are familiar with already, which is the permeability
of the gut, leaky gut, which really is a big gateway, right, once that happens, to opening up our body to all kinds of
unwanted debris and when that occurs, we get more and more chronic inflammation. So really what I’m talking about
here is a vicious cycle. We let a little bleeding gums go by. We don’t think it’s much of a big deal. Obviously, the severity
of that can get much worse and go into the bones around the mouth. But it really is affecting the rest of the body as
well, our digestion, our blood and our lymphatic system.
There’s one interesting tip that I’ve noticed even from working very closely and seeing what happened with my wife and
her bleeding gum issues. It was really a chronic situation that was going for quite some time and, I mean, she was doing
everything. A lot of the tips that I’ve already mentioned, in terms of hydro flossing and eating the best kind of diet and
taking the best supplements, she was taking Vitamin C plus Quercetin, but in liposomal form. Now what’s interesting
about that is she was taking it orally, swallowing it, taking Vitamin C powder, swallowing that as well because, again, we
all know that Vitamin C is an anti inflammatory, reduces inflammation, should hopefully cut down on the bleeding. But
then what she decided to do was swish the liposomal Vitamin C Quercetin in her mouth and in doing that, it’s soaked
into the gum and actually reduced the inflammation and her bleeding actually went away.
Jonathan Otto: What a surprise to learn that our oral health affects the health of our entire body. We often see the
body as different parts that all operate independently, and it is this view that can limit our ability to truly heal. Every
part of our body is interconnected and it’s so important that we are able to take care of it as a whole system.Dr. Joshua
Axe, who has been a guest speaker on our series in the past, has some great natural remedies for receding gum lines
on his website, www.draxe.com. We would like to share these with you here…
Green Tea: Known for its age-fighting compounds, green tea was found by Japanese researchers to promote healthy
teeth and gums. The study, published in the Journal of Periodontology, found that drinking a cup of green tea each day
decreased periodontal pocket depth, improved the attachment of the gums to the teeth, and reduced gum bleeding.
In fact, the more cups of green tea consumed, the better the results.
Oil Pulling: This Ayurvedic practice involves the swishing of either sesame oil or coconut oil in the mouth for 10 to 20
minutes a day. Research shows that oil pulling removes toxins from the mouth, helping to prevent cavities and oral
diseases. In addition, oil pulling is just as effective as germicidal mouthwash at eliminating bad breath, a common side
effect of receding gums and gum disease.
Coconut Oil & Himalayan Sea Salt Rub: To reduce the inflammation in the gums, gently massage gums with a mixture
of coconut oil and pink Himalayan salt. Let sit for a couple of minutes, and then rinse your mouth with fresh water.
Together, they have powerful antimicrobial and anti-inflammatory properties to help relieve the symptoms when you
have gums receding.
Vitamin C: Having a deficiency in this essential nutrient is known to cause inflamed and bleeding gums. Boosting your
intake of Vitamin C-rich foods including oranges, kale, red peppers, broccoli and brussels sprouts may help to reduce
inflammation and bleeding associated with receding gums.
Aloe Vera: Researchers in India have studied aloe vera’s efficacy in oral health. In the study, they used aloe vera-based
toothpastes, mouthwashes, gels, topicals, sprays, juice and supplements. The findings indicate that applying aloe vera
gel to inflamed gums and pockets results in improvement of periodontal conditions. Taking 100 milligrams per day,
in addition to rubbing the gel on the gums, may speed healing when gums are receding.
Septilin: This Ayurvedic medicine is known to boost immunity and fight a variety of infections. Septilin is a proprietary
blend of guggulu, guduchi, amla, licorice and other compounds that support a healthy immune system and reduce
inflammation. A randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled clinical trial published in the Journal of Periodontal
Implant Science found that dietary supplementation with Septilin improves periodontal treatment outcomes. In just
three weeks, participants who were given the compound showed marked improvement in trial scores.
Amla: Another supplement commonly prescribed in Ayurvedic practice is known as a rebuilder of oral health.
Researchers acknowledge that amla supports healing and development of connective tissue. It can be used as a
mouth rinse or taken orally in a capsule form for long-term dental health.
Flossing: Anything you can do to reduce plaque and bacteria can help you when fighting gum disease. While flossing’s
benefits are not superior to oil pulling, if you do want to floss, floss smarter. Choose your floss carefully. Also, select
an all-natural floss that doesn’t contain PFOA or other non-stick compounds.
Mouthwash: Using a mouthwash made from oregano oil is a great way to fight infections in the mouth. Oregano oil
has strong antifungal, antibacterial, antioxidant, antiviral, and anti-parasite compounds that can promote healing of
inflamed gums while fighting the infection.
Omega-3 Fatty Acids: A randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial found that 300 milligrams of Omega-3 fatty
acids daily for 12 weeks significantly reduces gingival index, pocket depth, and bleeding while improving gum to tooth
attachment. In addition, researchers believe that it may also act to prevent chronic periodontitis in some individuals.
FINAL THOUGHTS
Prevention is the best way to fight receding gums and periodontal disease.
Left untreated, gum disease can cause receding gums, systemic infections and loss of teeth.

Oral bacteria are associated with endocarditis, cardiovascular disease and certain cancers.
Certain medications that cause dry mouth may contribute to periodontal disease
Oil pulling with sesame or coconut oil is an effective treatment as it reduces plaque and improves gingivitis.
Practicing good oral hygiene, daily brushing with a soft toothbrush with soft to moderate pressure, helps to prevent
plaque buildup that can lead to periodontal disease.
RETROVIRUS — ENVIRONMENT
Dr. Jay Davidson: You have food supply, mercury. You’ve got an environment. I’ve got friends that have never had a
vaccine and they’ve never had an amalgam filling and yet they have mercury toxicity and they are a doctor. They are
like, “How did this happen?” Because of our environment, coal burning plants. What happens in one part of the world
is going to affect us here. We share one atmosphere. To think like, “Oh, I’m in the most pristine and the most nontoxic
place,” you might be in a safer place. However, you’re not in a bubble or a safe bubble. You’re in the earth bubble. The
earth bubble is we share one atmosphere and there’s going to be contaminants across.
When we’re looking at other heavy metals, though, lead heavy metal toxicity, well actually it passed on from mom to
child. Mercury not as much of a big one, but the lead heavy metal toxicity, we know that that carries on. There are
many heavy metals, but the top one that affects the brain health is definitely mercury.
Jonathan Otto: There are often things that are triggering disease that we believe are benign, safe or sometimes even
beneficial. Sometimes, we are unaware of our exposures to toxins because we are following ways of doing things that
appear perfectly normal and in line with what others are doing. However, this is why we need to be able to really think
through our life choices and each and everything we are exposing our bodies to. Just like we learned that our oral
health can affect our entire being. This example shows us that all of our life choices can either build up our health or
tear it down.
One of these choices for many has been vaccines. It’s such a mainstream practice that is not only encouraged by health
professionals, but actually mandated by the government in many states. It’s risen to the forefront as a major contro-
versy in the last few years as there has been parents fighting to stand for their kids that they believe may be adversely
affected by having these chemicals injected into their bodies. It’s a wonderful thing for a country to encourage healthy
choices in its citizens, but you have to ask yourself if it’s really right for someone to force you to have harmful toxins
injected directly into your bloodstream. Providing options to the people of this country is a great thing, but mandating
and forcing people to do this seems that we are crossing a line. Would we force people to eat a certain diet because we
believe it is best for their health and will help limit disease? Would we force people by government mandate to exercise
or go to bed at a certain time? We all know these are healthy things that can stop the spread of disease, yet thinking
of having the government enforce these things seems extreme and authoritarian. Yet, when it comes to injecting a
chemical cocktail into our bloodstream that has been linked to various health issues, we somehow have come to the
conclusion that this is acceptable and cogent. Why is this?
Maybe it’s partly because of what we’re being told by the media. Judy Mikovits is a virologist and researcher who worked
on studying links between certain viruses and cancer and autoimmune diseases. As her research began to reveal that
much of the population had been contaminated by mouse retroviruses through vaccines, she suddenly found herself
in a fight for her freedom, her life and for the truth to come to the forefront.
CORRUPTION IN THE MEDICAL RESEARCH INDUSTRY: TESTIMONY 1
Dr. Judy Mikovits: I’m a PhD molecular biologist and biochemist and I worked for 22 years in the National Cancer
Institute in Frederick, Maryland actually trying to understand how the immune system becomes dysfunctional, is dys-
regulated by retroviruses. Those are the viruses like HIV which actually incorporate into your DNA, stay there forever.
And it’s the expression of those retroviruses that can dysregulate major pathways, genetic and epigenetic pathways
causing not only leukemia, lymphoma, AIDS, HIV as associated with Acquired Immune Deficiencies.
So we’ve worked on that my entire life, developing immune therapies and other natural product therapies because
I was trained in drug development and so we developed biological therapies, biological response modifiers to treat
and hopefully cure these diseases.
So we developed new technologies to look at everything. And somewhere in 2006 I first saw cases of myalgic enceph-
alomyelitis, that’s called chronic fatigue syndrome. Some of the autism spectrum disorders neurological diseases in
children, and they were quite bizarre, but they reminded me particularly with dementia, cognitive issues, the inability
to think, the brain fog. They reminded me of an aspect of HIV infection which was a neurological disease that had
nothing to do with the expression of the virus but had more to do with the infection of the virus.
And I went to Nevada where a lady named Danette Whittamore — her daughter was sick. So children were sick, and
I just started looking at it, and when you see a cluster of diseases, you start looking for an ideological agent. You start
looking for an environmental cause, whether it’s a toxin in the air, whatever.
So just basically started studying it. In 2009, we published in the journal, Science, the first ever isolation of a new family
of retroviruses. These are HIV-like viruses, and we firmly associated them with MECFS, some cancers, chronic lympho-
cytic leukemia, which is very, I think it might be the number one cancer in this country.The paper gets published, and
over the next, with a lot of fanfare ... And doctors are reading it and they’re like, that’s it, chronic line. So what happens
in HIV/AIDS? That’s it. This cancer. That’s it. Parkinson’s, ALS, Lou Gehrig’s disease. So we’re seeing all these clusters
of disease and what was HIV/AIDS but otherwise healthy people in places where they shouldn’t get these infections
that should be cured by antibiotics.
Well the government, when they realized the breadth and the scope of the interactions and with the huge fanfare,
because chronic fatigue syndrome had been associated with a retrovirus before, maybe 20 years earlier.
So what it turned out was all of the negative studies, so all of the studies were, “Oh, there’s no association, there’s no
association. Has nothing to do ... It’s not a human infection.” But all of the negative studies between 3.75 and 7.6% of
the controls, the healthy people who had none of these diseases. So we call that a carrier. They’re infected, but they’re
not affected. They’re not diseased. They’re healthy carriers. And we see that in biology all the time. People walking
around with infections who never get sick.
But that’s 25 million Americans are healthy carriers of mouse family of viruses that are firmly associated with breast
cancer, leukemias, lymphomas, Parkinson’s disease, ALS, and it’s just this little disease of a million people in America
called MECFS that nobody knows about.
So all of a sudden the government’s got the big, “Oh shit”. And they’re doing everything they can to retract the paper,
to make the data go away. And the data don’t go away because every study that we do has that four to six percent in
the controls. And we’re isolating the virus, and they’re trying to say, “Oh, it’s just an artifact. It’s a PCR. It’s a test. Oh it’s
in the samples. Oh it’s in the reagents.” Whatever they said. But you could never get around the biology making sense.

VACCINES
Dr. Davidson: We’re looking at vaccines. There’s been a lot of controversy. When you look at the big topics of where
people get polarized, diet, politics, religion, vaccines. I’d say those are probably the top four things. It’s almost to the
point where somebody says vaccines and it’s like whether you’re on one side or the other, you want to fight. This has
all been manufactured. This has all been manufactured to control us, really to control our thoughts and our brain to
create this duality.
You have to pick a side and then if you’re on that side, you got to fight the other side. It’s like, wait a minute, why do we
have to pick a side at all? Why can’t we just think outside the box and look at what is this doing and what’s inside of it.
When we look at vaccines, we know chemicals are in there. If you have a flu shot, vast majority of those shots contain
thimerosal which is 50% mercury. They put thimerosal in there to attenuate the virus. They can’t just put a virus in a
liquid and then shoot it in you. They have to attenuate it because there’s a manufacturing process. They’ll use a heavy
metal like mercury. They’ll put a lot of aluminum in shots as well, too, to do that. When they do that and you inject it
in your body, it’s going right in your body. It’s bypassing all your normal immune system in your bloodstream, and we
don’t really know the true ramifications of that.
Then we get on the other side of the people that are like, “Well, no, there’s no chemicals in vaccines.” Well, there’s
actually been researchers that have proven that there’s retroviruses in vaccines. For just arguing chemicals, we now
know that vaccines actually transmit retroviruses. A retrovirus is a virus that actually does reverse transcriptase. Instead
of going from DNA to RNA, RNA to DNA. Here’s the takeaway. That virus has a code in it that will get implanted in our
body, and it’ll change our genetics and it can get expressed over trauma.
When we’re having trauma, when we have a car accident, we get a phone call from our loved one and all of a sudden
like, “Whew, that’s not a good call,” or we have a fight with our boss, or we get exposed to a moldy environment, or we
get a mercury filling drilled out and expose us to mercury, all the sudden now it can trigger that retrovirus that maybe
has been inactive for 10 years in your body to actually go active and now it can actually change our DNA. Something
as simple as, “Oh, it’s a vaccine. It’s safe,” I think we need to reanalyze it and be like, “I’m not sure, not just from the
chemicals but also what else it’s doing.”
CORRUPTION IN THE MEDICAL RESEARCH INDUSTRY: TESTIMONY 3
Dr. Judy Mikovits: Basically, the government tried to get us to recant the data and say it was right, say it wasn’t true.
And make it go away. And we said no, no thank you. No, the data are right and true
So Mikovits and Ricetti said no. So what did they do? I gave that talk on September 22, Science the Journal publishes
false positive, so Anette and Harvey Whittamore on their way to federal prison, and by the way, their daughter will
stop getting the AIDS drugs that cured her. I’m going to say it again. So what are they going to do? They got a gun to
their head, so they said, “You get the data and you make her go away.”
They fired me within seven days, I wasn’t in the building wasn’t in town..
They locked down the lab, fired me the day before the end of the NIH fiscal year, September 29.I get back from Ireland
and I’m being stalked by Harvey Whittamore who’s trying to kill me because that’s what the government charged him to
do. Max testified how he was going to kill me; I was going to get drunk and fall off the parking garage. And we shared
an apartment.
So I get arrested. They go in and Watergate style. Make sure everything’s in my office. Lock down my labs, my students
can’t get in. Nobody can get in except Lombardi, and he’s got a lot to lose because he’s going to federal prison too.
They go in, they open my desk drawers, they make sure everything’s there. I’m sure they called the journal, Science,
and said, “We got this.” And Science is now, the false-positive is going to become the article that was published, the
opinion article that was published on September 30.
So what we realized back from history we know, they knew SP40 was in the polio, simian virus for monkeys. And so
there were lots of potential for a retrovirus to recombine and infect.
And this was the big “Oh my God.” This was how 25 million Americans got infectious, transmissible retroviruses and
were carriers and were time bombs waiting to take off when aluminum, other things, other...co-infections from the
next injection.
The flu vaccine has three bird retroviruses that are gamma retroviruses. They’re called reticulo and filio viruses because
they get your blood system. They get your connective tissue. That’s the whole gut. So when we talk about the gut, and
what Andy Wakefield found, that non-specific inflammation. That’s because the reticulo and filio viruses were breaking
down your gut lining so that everything was becoming leaky. And this is what we saw many, many years earlier in the
MECFS patients and the autistic kids. They have what’s called endotoxin in their blood. And you don’t get endotoxin
in your blood unless it’s injected. And this is the big “Oh my God” that all of these things are injected, and any one of
them — the cow retroviruses, pig retroviruses that they admit are in the RotaTeq, the flu vaccine, three avian bird
viruses in everyone, and now all the mouse viruses. And it all coupled in Gardasil vaccine so now we know from what
Bobby said yesterday, now we see the fraud. And that was simultaneous with all of this happening.
Jonathan Otto: So, there is a decided effort on the part of media and government to keep us in the dark about some
more complex complications of vaccines. This tells us a lot about our responsibility to make choices for our own health
and our own body. It’s not the responsibility of any other person to decide what’s going into our body. We have the in-
credible power to make choices for our health every day, in everything we eat and the lifestyle practices we implement.
However, once our bodies have been contaminated with various toxins and parasites, what can we do to resolve this?
How do we know if we are at a state that we need to step in a do something?
SIGNS YOU NEED TO DETOX
Jonathan Otto: Let me break it down a bit more, because I know that many people like specifics. Here are 10 telltale
signs that your body is literally begging you for a detox.
You have a health issue. Whether it’s a new disorder like depression or anxiety, an autoimmune problem, joint pain,
or any chronic disease fueled by unhealthy high levels of inflammation.
2. You’ve been following a health protocol for your issue and you’re just not getting the recovery that you expected.
Oftentimes, this means you could have a hidden parasitic infection that’s holding you back from your recovery.
3 You feel fatigued, stressed, overwhelmed, or lacking in energy.
4. You have skin breakouts, rashes, eczema, or a dull, blotchy complexion. Did you realize that your skin is actually an
organ of detoxification and it can become overwhelmed and overworked?
5. You seem to pick up colds or viruses easily.
6. You’re taking any kind of prescribed medication.

7. Your digestion is problematic. You have gas, heartburn, constipation, or other GI issues.
8. You’re carrying around more weight than you should not.
9. You tend to make unhealthy food choices like eating a lot of sugar or you need caffeine to get through the day.
10. You get that foggy brain feeling, memory lapses or lack of mental clarity.
ROUTES FOR DETOX PATHWAYS
Dr. Rudy Mueller: When we’re talking about detoxification, the things that we need to be concentrated on are, number
one what are the detoxification pathways? How do we clear things out of our system?
We have breath, we have sweating, we have bowel movements, we have urination.
We have the kidneys, the liver, the gastrointestinal tract and then we have the lymphatic system.
So we need to promote through different nutrients, through different practices to upregulation or opening of these
different drains?
DRAINAGE VS. DETOXING — DETOX PATHWAYS
Jonathan Otto: Why don’t you talk to the person at home, how can they start detoxing today?
Dr. Jay Davidson: Yeah. The first step is, I always like to differentiate drainage versus detox. Drainage is making sure
your pathways are open. Liver bile duct, making sure that’s moving, making sure you’re not constipated in the colon.
The lymphatic system, the brain drainage, making sure you sweat. These are all the normal, kidneys, actually urinating.
These are all normal drainage pathways that the body just moves things out of the body.
If you are clogged drainage wise, if you’re constipated, the liver bile duct is clogged, which is one of the number one
issue I see with autoimmune cases and chronically ill people is this liver bile duct. If that’s clogged, the last thing you
want to do is jump into trying to detox, because the toxins have nowhere to go. When we’re looking at detox, drainage
is first and then now we can actually start detoxification.
So, we’ve learned here about our detox pathways, including our liver, kidneys, colon, skin and lymphatic system. We’ve
seen that we all need to detoxify these systems and we can’t just cross our fingers and hope our body is able to deal
with the toxic load. Sooner or later it’s going to catch up with us. And once a disease is triggered, it’s much harder to
undo the damage. However, even if you are suffering from a disease, taking the time now to really detox your body can
have profound results that could change your life.Join us as we visit Dr. Gioffre and his patient, Peggy, a cancer survivor,
while she has her blood analyzed to ensure she is still recovering and to learn what else she can do to detoxify her
body and facilitate her healing. The blood can really tell us so much and it is fascinating to see this process in action.
TESTING — SUPPLEMENTS: PEGGY’S ANALYSIS
Dr. Daryl Gioffre: So today I’m excited because we are going to be testing Peggy’s live blood.
So we’re going to take a drop of blood from the fingertip. We’re going to put it under the microscope. We’re going to
magnify to twenty five thousand times and on this HD screen here, we’re going to be actually seeing her blood in real
time.So here we’re looking at the dry blood layer which is also called oxidative stress test. We basically let the blood
dry for ten minutes and we’re seeing how the blood is aging. We’re seeing how inflammation and how different sorts
of chemicals and toxins are affecting the blood. If we go to the outskirts, in a lot of patients we can actually see heavy
metals here. We’re not really seeing any heavy metals in Peggy’s blood. A lot of times you’ll see all this black here. We
can’t tell which heavy metal heavy it is but we can definitely see them.
And it’s cool because the second sample was identical to the first sample. We’re seeing the same exact patterns. That’s
why I always do two samples to show the reproducibility of this. There’s a base of what you want to do every single
day. There are things, we have to supplement some things, it’s become impossible to get everything from the food. If
you think you can do that, you’re crazy. It’s the world we’ve inherited. So everybody’s got to do chlorophyll, whether
it’s the green juice, fresh green juice or dehydrated, the mineral supplement, magnesium, of course. Vitamin D3 with
K2. Even iodine. These people get the thyroid gland. It’s the number one gland susceptible to toxins so even if your
blood levels are showing satisfactory iodine levels, as we age, I think we all should take an iodine supplement as well.
CHLORELLA — DETOX HEAVY METALS
Dr. Sruti Lam: Chlorella has a cousin, spirulina, which is also excellent as another algae that we can supplement with.
The benefits of chlorella are numerous. It can help with asthma, it can help with bad breath, with fibromyalgia, with
energy, with boosting your Vitamin B12. Chlorella has a lot of different things that we can use daily.
One of the best things about chlorella is working as a detoxifying agent. Chlorella is used to detoxify heavy metals. The
way it does this is it captures all the heavy metals and toxins that are in our body, and it flushes it all out. So examples
are when a patient has any vaccinations, chlorella can be useful. When you go through war zones, chlorella is useful.
When you’re traveling, chlorella is excellent. When you are taking a lot of medications, chlorella is good at binding all
the toxins and flushing it out of your body.
It’s also used as an adjunct during cancer therapy, because it prevents the side effects of both radiation and chemo-
therapy. All the anti aging products have a lot of chlorella in it, because it increases glutathione in your body, which
decreases the free radicals in your body. So it actually helps with cleansing your skin and removing all the toxins that
are present in your skin, in your liver, in your lungs. Chlorella boosts your energy as well, especially B12, because it is
the energy that is required to go in through our gut system and helping with our digestive system at the same time.
Jonathan Otto: If you are like most Americans, you have heard the fear-based thinking surrounding natural medicines.
You have heard that they are quackery or unscientific. That’s why we really want to help you see the science behind
these processes. We can see from Peggy’s blood sample that all these things are very real and, as Dr. Gioffre mentioned,
each time you take a supplement or make a lifestyle change, it shows up in the health of your blood. By just adding
some vital supplements to the diet, detoxification can begin to take place and the heavy metals are released and the
body is able to start cleansing the blood of all the contaminates and malignities.
There are scientists who have gotten caught up in Big Pharma and lost sight of the patients they are supposed to be
helping. Many pharmaceutical medications have severe and long-lasting or even permanent side-effects. Where are
the warnings in the media about these dangerous drugs. Most pharmaceuticals don’t even stay on the market long
enough to reach their patent renewal because of the detrimental effects they cause. I’m not advocating that you just
stop taking your medications, but that you start to explore the options that are out there that may enable you to re-

verse your chronic illness, in which case, you would no longer need medications. Speaking with a multitude of doctors
and patients, we have seen so many who have been able to accomplish this supposedly impossible feat.
So, where do you start if you want to detox your body? Our experts are going to walk you through some of the best
supplements out there for detoxing and cleansing the liver, kidneys and lymphatic system.
ROUTES FOR DETOXING
Dr. Peter Kan: A lot of times, people are buying supplement that’s one bottle says detox, and what they’re really doing
is just having a bowel movement because they took some laxative. And I want to encourage people to actually look at a
complete solution that has all of the phases of detox covered, and that’s a better philosophy than just doing one thing.
Because you can clean up the house, but all the trash is still inside your house, not taken out. Guess what? Flies are
going to attract to the trash in your kitchen ... that’s still in your kitchen, not taken out. You got to take out the trash.
But that’s just the last step. You also got to mop it up. You got to clean it up. It’s a whole system.
Jonathan Otto: Fantastic. You’ve really hit the nail on the head with that multifaceted approach, and I hope to clarify
some of these things. We know we need to extract the junk, the toxins, from each of the organs. Treat each of the
organs ... like a room in a house ... And then, obviously with the consistent bowel movements, then we’re able to keep
the flow of the junk so as it’s getting released and moving from the bones ... like, for example, metals coming out of
bones ... metals coming out of organs ... Then coming into the bloodstream, coming into ... and junk actually coming
... Is it true that it ends up coming into the intestines, and then it’s excreted.
Dr. Peter Kan: It’s either going to come into the intestine, so that you can eliminate it through the fecal route. Or it’s
going to be pulled from the organ or from the bone into the blood, so that as it’s circulating through the blood, then
your kidney and liver can filter it so that they can either be peed out or further fecal elimination or sweat it out. So
either way, it’s got to come into the gut or it’s going to come into the blood.
If you take some product and the toxin is still stuck in the bone, then you really didn’t detox anything. You might have
just detoxed what’s there ... or the low-hanging fruit, I call it. But that’s why a detox is not a one-day process either,
right? It may take time to clean up. It’d be like after a major hurricane, you don’t clean up the whole island in one day.
It may be a process. It depends on how much damage there is. It’s not a one size fits all approach. Some people need
to do it longer. Some people can do a shorter.
HEALING THE SYSTEMS — DETOXING: HEAVY METALS & PARASITE CLEANSE
Dr. Elena Villanueva: So this client here, 63-year-old female and she started with us at the very end of the summer so
you can see here that her labs were done August 31st. And so she hasn’t been with us for very long, yet she’s had some
incredible strides and progress in what we’ve been doing with her. She came to us feeling so horrible with a multitude
of different symptoms including brain fog, anxiety, depression, hot flashes, not sleeping well, bloating, constipation, her
skin really really looked bad, her hair was falling out. So that’s just some off the top of my head. And we ran a bunch
of labs on her that included functional blood chemistry, genetics, we are looking at her brain chemistry, we’re looking
at her hormones, but I’m going to show you what we did with her blood in the first 30 days.
Because I had to explain to her that even though her anxiety was one of her top concerns, that we needed to do a
detox first. Because if we didn’t do the detox first then I’m not going to be able to give her what she needs so that her
body can restore balance to its own brain chemistry.
DETOXING — HOW TO START
Dr. Jay Davidson: Detoxification first starts by limiting how much we’re exposed to, right, because you can’t clear out
what’s built up in your body if you’re constantly being exposed to things. Remove the source is number one, then the
second thing is let’s start emptying our bucket. We all have toxins throughout our lifetime that we’re exposed to, that
kind of pile in our bucket. Our mom passes, gave us some toxins to add to our bucket as well too, so you want to start
emptying that.
Some easy ways to start is to increase glutathione in our body. Glutathione is, it’s a little bit longer word, but it’s in-
volved in what they call face to detox. What you need to know about it, it’s the strongest antioxidant in our body, our
body naturally makes it, but it’s also a very good detoxifier. Here’s the thing, those with autism, those with cancer,
those with health issues are going to have a lower glutathione. We want to do something to help boost that up and
get that moving.
There are different things like liposomal glutathione. There are different products like or foods like whey protein that
can help raise glutathione. There are precursors as well, those things that actually help recycle it. I think doing some
research in the glutathione category or side of it can be very beneficial and very valuable in detoxification. Also if you
have heavy metal toxicity, you can look at true chelator ALA, DMSA, EDTA, DMPS. These are not for the faint of heart,
though I always recommend working with a practitioner that understands true heavy metal detoxification and what
to do.
LIVER DETOX
Dr. John Dempster: Liver detoxification is incredibly important. What we need to realize is that there’s two phases
of a proper liver detox pathway. There’s something called phase one and there’s something called phase two. In fact,
there’s actually a third phase but we won’t get into that right yet. What we want to do is we want to make sure that
we’re connecting those two phases, because one of the worst things you could do is have a disconnect. I’m not going
to get too technical here but what can connect these two phases so that the toxins, when they come in, go out in a
way that your body can excrete is connected by things such as milk thistle, things such as dandelion.
Zinc, certain B vitamins, these are all cofactors that really drive those two pathways to really be in synergy and be work-
ing well together, because the last thing we want is an assembly line where the person that’s supposed to be putting
the stuff in the box has gone on break but the assembly line is pumping out the product and it keeps landing on the
floor. That’s what can happen when our liver isn’t working in sync. We’ve got to connect that back together and we’ve
got to get the messaging. Often, a lot of the nutrients that you and I have been talking about today, these are things
that we lose all the time with chronic distress, with poor diets, with all sorts of issues from environmental toxins that
confuse the signaling in our body and draw on the demands of these nutrients. We really want to replenish these.
In our clinic, we actually measure these nutrients to find out where the specifics are, but you can generally apply a lot
of these nutrients and really hit a home run with most people.
I love things that can go in there and they can actually absorb, almost like a sponge, and then I love the things I can
combine, drag them out, almost like a bulldozer and just clean it right out. So anything that has insoluble fibers or
soluble fibers work really well. The soluble especially loves to bind and drag and then the insoluble loves to drag and
push the stuff out. Anything such as aloe, which is very calming and soothing for an inflamed gut lining to prevent
some of the reabsorption of some of this debris as it’s moving through is also very important. Chicory, inulin, these
are some other wonderful things that we can all start to bring in.

DETOX
Dr. Elena Villanueva: And so when we reviewed the blood work and we started her on her detox, at that time we were
still waiting on the brain chemical test to come back. So we hadn’t seen the results yet. They came in about a week
later. But I was able to explain to her look, it doesn’t matter that we don’t have that test in yet because based off of the
other labs that we’ve done we know we have to start off with a detox, we have to. I want to show you some things here.
So there are going to be a couple of things that I’m going to point out. So this test was done August 31st. So basically
she started the first week of September. Actually I think maybe the second week of September is when she started her
detox. This retest that we wanted to check some of the values that we found in the original blood work that were really
off that we are specifically working to correct or to start the process of correction within the first 30 days, that’s why
we redo the test. So we did the test about mid-October. And if we take a look here, going to skip forward to her lipids.
So lipid, this was a huge thing. And this was showing me that she has liver congestion and I’m going to go back and
show you the liver enzymes in just a minute but let’s start here. Her lipids, total cholesterol was 248. In about five
weeks we got it down to 197. You can see that there. 248, 248. 197. Yeah, that’s a little high.
Jonathan Otto: And then 147 is?
Dr. Elena Villanueva: 197.
Jonathan Otto: 197 is good, okay.
Dr. Elena Villanueva: It looks good, yeah.
Jonathan Otto: It’s within range?
Dr. Elena Villanueva: It’s within range, absolutely. And cholesterol is something that I don’t necessarily believe that it
has to be under 200 to be healthy. In her case, we just needed to get it down. I take it more on a case by case basis. Her
triglycerides were clearly out of range. We like to see that the triglycerides between 50 and 100. When we’re looking
at the functional or holistic model. In the Western medicine model, they say that it’s okay up to 150 but we really like
to tighten things down so that we can have optimal function. And she was clearly by any type of medical standard she
was clearly too high. She was at 316.
BEST HERBS TO USE FOR DETOX
Jonathan Otto: The first priority is to remove the toxins. Over time, no matter how healthy your lifestyle is, toxic
chemicals and heavy metals will accumulate in your organs and tissues. Heavy metals include such things such as
mercury from fish and dental fillings, lead from pipes and paint, cadmium, and furniture and household products and
many others.
Additionally, we’re all exposed to herbicides, pesticides, air pollution, food additives, and chemicals in thousands of
products that we use. It’s impossible to completely avoid these exposures, which can lead to many nonspecific symp-
toms, brain fog, headaches, fatigue, mood changes, and others.
Fortunately, you can help reduce your body’s toxic overload by using nutrients that help remove these accumulated
toxins and heavy metals. Here are some key nutrients that detox experts recommend.
Silymarin. This powerful herb, which is actually the milk thistle plant, helps detoxify the liver. It’s also an antioxidant,
so it helps scavenge free radicals that damage your cells and DNA.
Humic and fulvic acid. Due to decades of soil nutrient depletion, we don’t get the minerals that we need today. These
bioactive compounds are deep earth or ancient mineral substances that help chelate or bond with toxins and heavy
metals to remove them from the body. They also work as powerful free radical scavengers. Plus, they support immune
health.
Uva ursi leaf, also known as bearberry. This plant nutrient has been used traditionally to support liver and kidney
health. Cordyceps mushroom. This medicinal mushroom has been used for centuries for its anti-aging and general
health promotion benefits. When it comes to detox, cordyceps promotes the excretion of toxins via the kidneys. It also
offers support for immune health.
Rhodiola Rosea. This is an adaptogenic herb used international healing to detoxify the body, increase energy and offer
antioxidant protection. If you aren’t familiar with adaptogens, they are unique healing plants that help you respond to
any type of stressor by bringing the body back to balance.
COLON CLEANSE: GINSENG AND GUT HEALTH
Dr. Sruti Lam: Another herb I want to talk about is one of my favorite herbs. It’s called ginseng. Ginseng, and the
species that we’re going to talk about specifically is, ginseng lutein.
When you think about ginseng you think about the word bitter. Anytime I think about the word bitter the first thing
that comes to my mind is liver. Bitter herbs are excellent for the liver. Why are they excellent for the liver? Because the
liver is the largest detox organ of our body. Anything that is bitter actually helps cleanse the liver and detox it, and in
turn detoxifies the liver. Ginseng also has been used for centuries. In Chinese medicine, ginseng is used as a liver tonic.
Because it’s a bitter herb, as soon as you take it, it releases salivary enzymes in your mouth. It releases digestive en-
zymes in your gut. Releasing of these enzymes help with increasing your appetite. Many people have a problem with
loss of appetite and that has become more so with the use of a lot of medications like antidepressants, antianxiety. Any
psychedelic drugs actually numb your GI system and can decrease your appetite cravings. Many people don’t eat on
time because they did not have an appetite, so that is because you have a decrease of digestive enzymes in your body.
When you eat a bitter herb like ginseng it releases digestive enzymes, not just in the gut, but starting straight from
your saliva, so when releasing all of that you salivate. Just like you would salivate when you see a food of choice that
you like or you want to eat. Releasing digestive enzymes actually sets this track for your digestive system to say, all
right, food is going to come in, I want to start consuming it.
Ginseng has a lot of properties of both releasing digestive enzymes in the body and helping flush out toxins of the
body, so when our bowels are impacted and we don’t have a good bowel movement, or we have been toxic, we are...
Our body is full of toxins because the foods we consumed or the inflammation that we have, ginseng an herb that
releases all of that in your body.
It’s an excellent herb used directly by itself. You can use it as a tincture. You can use it as a capsule form. I recommend
ginseng to be eaten as a fresh vegetable because it starts with releasing anything from the mouth all the way to your
gut system.
HERBS FOR DETOX
Jonathan Otto: Great, great, great. Perfect. And then now, let’s have a look at detoxification herbs. What do you know
about good herbs for detoxification?

Dr. Rudy Mueller: We want to promote detoxification through many different systems. There are the liver herbs that
are good for the liver. Herbs that are good for the lymphatic system. Utilizing sweating, urination, et cetera, but really
we utilize a lot of nutrients to help with the different processes of detoxification. The primary one being Glutathione.
So when we’re talking about the liver, milk thistle can be a phenomenal nutrient, excuse me, herb, that helps with
detoxification through phase one and phase two. Liver detoxification along with additional nutrients, right?
LIVER CLEANSING
John Schott: Now he mentioned milk thistle, and a combination of any of these liver herbs like milk thistle with dan-
delion, burdock, and some of those other ones that you mentioned like cleavers and marigold together can be quite
effective in cleaning the liver. And once you clean the liver you get a lot of beneficial elements as far as general detox
as well.
Some of these herbs activate different pathways in the liver. Phase one, phase two and phase three. So together is
when you see the most effect, synergistically together. By themselves you might get some effect, if you’re just using
the herb by itself, but together they work best synergistically.
And again going back to the fulvic minerals, again like he mentioned before, it’s a driver. So the fulvic is very important
to get any of these herbs and any of these constituents to work to its maximum effect. So if I was doing any of these
cleanses or using, trying any of these detoxes per sort, especially to help the body clear out some of the metals that
we’ve accumulated, definitely fulvic minerals are a huge part of that. It’s almost like it’s a must at this point to have
that in there.
BLUEBERRIES, URINARY TRACT HEALTH, CRANBERRIES
Dr. Sruti Lam: And here I have blueberries. There’s plenty of berries out there. One of my favorites are blueberries.
Tiny little berries, sisters of the bilberry family as well. It’s called vaccinium. Blueberry, also like grapes, have anthocy-
anins, and they’re highly antioxidant. That means they decrease free radicals, or they scavenge off free radicals, so it
helps with releasing and detoxing our body of toxins. That’s what berries do.
Blueberries are great for the urinary tract. Vaccinium is excellent in helping organisms detach themselves when you
get infected with a UTI. Either blueberries, or bilberry leaf, or the most common and famous berry used for UTI infec-
tions, is cranberry juice. Cranberries, 250-300 millimeters, milliliters, I’m sorry, that is around one glass of cranberry
juice, can actually help decrease UTI infections for up to 24 hours. And when you actually have a UTI infection, you can
do cranberry juice every 3-4 hours and make sure it’s unsweetened, because the sweetened variety has sugar, and
sugar is something all the bacteria like. So, unsweetened cranberry juice, unsweetened bilberry leaf, or unsweetened
blueberries. All these are excellent for the urinary tract infection, or also great for circulation in our body.
DETOX — TURMERIC — SUPPLEMENTS — LIVER & KIDNEYS
Jonathan Otto: Dr. Nuzum, if you could talk to me about how to support the liver and the kidneys in the detox process
and how particular herbs can be used to aid the process. Let’s go straight into this.
Dr. Daniel Nuzum: Let’s see what this has here. Let’s see what we got. I like, well, let’s see here. This one has milk thistle
which helps the liver detox itself, also protects the liver from toxins. This has beetroot, again, another good one. This
one, beetroot helps to drain the liver. It’s a good, real important one there. Artichoke, artichoke helps the liver flush fat
and fatty toxins out of itself, for the liver. Then we have chicory root, that’s another good liver remedy. Yarrow, good for
the liver. It has, let’s see here. We have methionine, good sulfur containing amino acid there. L-cysteine and N-acetyl
l-cysteine, all of those help the liver with detoxing heavy metals and in that whole process. It also has choline, again,
which helps thin the bile coming out of the liver so it’s not so harsh on the rest of the gut. That’s another important
thing. This is a good formula.
Let’s see here. Those would be more for the liver. Ginger helps both the liver and the kidneys. That’s in this formula.
We have chanca piedra, piedra. That one never comes out quite right. Chanca there is called stone crusher because it’s
for crushing the stones in the kidneys. Helps to reduce those types of things. I’ve used it clinically. It works really well.
It’s also called Collinsonia Root in English. Stone crusher is the Spanish name for it. Dandelion root, excellent for the
kidneys. Jojoba seed is very good for the kidneys. Celery seed, excellent, excellent, excellent remedy for the kidneys.
Burdock, also a very good remedy for the kidneys as is berberine and again, ginger root. Very nice formula here.
With this formula, I would suspect improved liver clearing, improved kidney clearing. It has some antimicrobial effects
you’d be getting from this particularly more for urinary tract type issues. Get some clearing of heavy metals and things
with this.
LIVER DETOX: MILK THISTLE
Dr. Elena Villanueva: But the milk thistle, so many people know about that, it’s so widely used but it works so well.
But what makes it work even better is when you can combine it with other herbals, and that’s what I see here. The
beet root, I’m the biggest fan of beetroot. Beetroot works so incredibly well. As a matter of fact, there are times that
I’ll have my patients even drinking a little product called gut shots. And it’s fermented beet juice. So I’ll have them do
that in addition to some supplements that have beetroot in it.
So huge fan of that for detoxification. Artichoke extract, that’s great. The dandelion, chicory root, chanca piedra is really
great. The alfalfa is really good. I’m a huge fan of the alfalfa also turmeric. That’s really really good. Chlorella is really
good. I think there’s chlorella in one of these.
As a combination in one of your other detox supplements so chlorella works very well. And when you combine these
different ingredients, then they have a really powerful synergistic effect to help to produce the results that I was able
to show you on these labs.
Jonathan Otto: Fantastic. So we’re clearing up the body and we’re clearing up the kidneys and the liver, and maybe
even the gallbladder.
Dr. Elena Villanueva: Oh absolutely.
Jonathan Otto: Yeah? Okay.
Dr. Elena Villanueva: Absolutely. And the beet root is really good for that also.
Jonathan Otto: Great. And so that’s obviously important, it logically makes sense, but I think that maybe people don’t
know the real impact. Because the next thing was like why would I have a liver issue, why would I need to detoxify my
liver? It’s just like nobody told me that I’ve got that problem, the doctor didn’t diagnose me with liver problems.
Dr. Elena Villanueva: That’s because the doctor isn’t going to look at that as a problem. The doctor isn’t going to look
at the liver as a problem unless your liver gets to the point where it’s failing you. So your liver enzymes could be high
and they’ll shake their head and say well let’s check it next month. Oh let’s check it next month. Oh your liver’s failing
now. Why didn’t they take proactive action to actually get the liver enzymes back where they needed to be and to clean

up the diet? And that’s the approach that we’re going to take. We’re going to look at it before the organ becomes so
damaged that the person is at risk of dying.
COLON CLEANSE: BURDOCK
Dr. Sruti Lam: The next herb we’re going to talk about is burdock. I love burdock. The Latin name for it is arctium
lappa. When I tasted arctium lappa the first time I enjoyed the sensation of it. It is a bitter herb, but our body knows
what bitter herb we like.
Burdock is a great blood purifier. It is also a lymphatic cleanser. Burdock can be used for so many different things. It
can be used for, like I said, it’s a blood purifier. It’s a lymphatic cleanser. It’s a skin cleanser. It’s great for the digestive
system as well. It is phytoestrogenic. That means it actually balances out your hormones. It is antioxidant. Burdock
root is what we use.
Burdock is used for heavy metal toxicity, so lead, mercury, uranium. All of these herbs that are difficult to come out,
burdock wraps itself around these toxins and pulls them all out of our body. Any person going through undergoing
chelation, or any kind of cancer, radiation, or chemotherapy, burdock is a great adjunct in helping cleanse all of that
from your body.
NUTRIENTS FOR HEALING: SHILAJIT — FULVIC — HUMIC ACID
Jonathan Otto: But we’re talking about minerals and we’re talking about nutrients and we’re talking about balancing
the body and what’s happening at a cellular level.
We’re talking about how to detoxify the body or how to balance the gut with soil-based nutrients. And so, we’ve got
so many different things that we’re going to discuss. We’re even going to discuss about women’s health, and so I’m
looking forward to hearing your thoughts on that.
But before we go there, why don’t we start with some herbs, minerals, nutrients that are available to us in the Kingdom
of plant based medicine, that you feel are particularly important, that people should know about, and use for particular
challenges or issues.
John Schott: Okay, so the particular mineral that I’ve been using for years and I haven’t stopped, simply because it
works. I feel it working and there’s a lot of research on it too. It’s called shilajit. Primarily, there’s a complex of weak
organic acids.
Generally, mostly fulvic acid, but there’s humic acid, ohmic acid in the shilajit, and that’s part of its magic or its benefit,
because these weak organic acids go inside the body and they start to work with the mitochondria and start to work
with the cell to clean it up and detox anything that we’re exposed to nowadays, naturally, without having to be too ag-
gressive, and with being very balanced in its interaction with the other components of the cell and the other minerals.
HUMIC — FULVIC ACID
Dr. Jay Davidson: The cool thing right now is that, there’s great science on humic acid and fulvic acid. There’s actually
been ways that scientists have been able to modify it, so that it doesn’t grab on necessarily like vitamins and nutrients,
but it just grabs onto chemicals and toxins. That’s a great place to start, very gentle. I like bioactive carbons. I love
glutathione. Some other things to consider are maybe like a zeolite or even like a hydrolyzed clinoptilolite fragments,
which is like a fragment of a zeolite as well.
There’s a lot of tools in detoxification, but glutathione is a great place to start. The bioactive carbons are a great place
to start, and then you can start removing things, just don’t do too intense off the bat, right, we want to know the body
can handle it. Then you can just slowly increase, and as you want to dig deeper and go layers, we always recommend
finding a practitioner that can help guide you. Detox, especially of heavy metals can be a little complex and then if
something comes up, you want to know exactly what to do and how, and it can be a little scary when you do it on your
own sometimes too.
FULVIC ACID & CHELATION
Dr. Gabriel Cousens: Well I think there’s some definitely truth to that. The whole chelation concept. Another way of
thinking about it is that they work with the cell membrane. So you’re able to ... the fulvic acid is able to bring things
into the cell, okay? And as it cleans the system you have the power ... and you activate the cell membrane, you have
the power of the cell membrane, and the power of diffusion, things go from higher concentration to a lower concen-
tration, to begin sucking the toxins out into the bloodstream, into the lymph.
So activating the cell membrane, recharging it, building it up, is key to the whole vital force. That’s why fasting is so
good, and we get so much toxins out while we’re fasting. So there’s a few principles going on, and that’s the way I tend
to think about it. So it’s not necessarily just, you know, positive, negative type things, and that’s true with the chelation
concept.
But you’re activating the whole system, you’re activating all the cells to take in the good and actively, through the part
of osmosis, to push the negatives out, because they are now strong enough energetically to force the toxins out. So
we have to up the power of the cell, the vital force we call it, to do that. Does that make sense? Yeah, and I think there’s
good science behind that.
FULVIC ACID & PROBIOTICS
Dr. Daniel Nuzum: And so if you eliminate an infection but you don’t re-inhabit the house with something else, moment
you get exposed to that infection it’s going to come right back. It’s not good. So detox first, purge that gut, get all the
waste out, get all the junk out. Then introduce large amounts of probiotics. Use digestive enzymes, digest your food
with those digestive enzymes. I like fulvic minerals. I like to use fulvic minerals because they stimulate the stomach to
produce the acid it needs to produce, in order to trigger healthy digestive process through the whole rest of your gut.
Here’s a little tidbit. I tell my patients that the most secure and fastest way to ensure that you’ll develop an autoim-
mune disorder is shut down your stomach, decrease the amount of acid your stomach produces. That will create an
autoimmune disorder in a heartbeat. Okay. So getting the digestive tract to function again is what you need to do
after you’ve detoxed. You first purge the gut, then you get to restore its function. You do that with digestive enzymes,
probiotics and again, I like fulvic acid minerals. Those are excellent, just excellent for restoring the gut.
Clinically, when I’m working with patients I use two to three times the recommended doses. What, what you’ll see,
especially if someone has had severe, severe dysbiosis, meaning their gut bacteria, their microbiome is completely
sideways. And what that means when you have dysbiosis, it means your, the mix of microbes in your gut is way off,
is what that means. What I’ve found clinically, this is just an experience, now there’s, there’s research on this, but this
is my personal experience clinically. I’ve found patients with severe dysbiosis, if you give him one capsule of probiot-
ics or one capsule of an enzyme supplement, you might make them worse.I can’t ... It’s kind of like putting amazing,
amazing skin graph over a burn that’s all dirty. If you burnt your hand and it has all kinds of dirt and grime in it and
then you go get a skin graph, put that on your hand, the skin grafts never going to take, right? Why? Because you’re
going to get infection, you’re going to get all kinds of other things under that skin graph. It’s not going to ... The whole

inflammatory response your body’s going to have to all the junk that’s under it is going to prevent that skin graft from
taking. So if you’re skin graphing with probiotics, you need to clean everything out first, get that wound cleaned up,
clean it up, then you can put the medicine on it.
Here’s what I think of probiotics as being, you know, like special forces, right? If the military was going to put special
forces into a combat situation, they don’t send them in without equipment. They send them in with the very best
equipment we can supply them with. Right? And so things like your oligo polysaccharides, the marine polysaccharides,
humic acids, fulvic acids, these things are all prebiotics substances that are like special equipment for special forces.
When you’re consuming those things with probiotics, it just supports the function of those probiotics massively.
DETOX
Dr. Elena Villanueva: In about five weeks we got her down to 124. And I want to get her down lower by the time that
we rerun her next labs, they will be lower. Her LDL cholesterol was 146, we took it down to 132. And this was in just
over a month. This is huge. If we come down and we take a look ... let me come back to this first page. If we come down
and take a look at her liver enzymes, they were looking pretty bad. Her liver enzymes would be here, and shown is
the ACT, the ALT. And we’re going to come down here and skip down to GGT because these were the ones that were
out of range.
If we look at what the ranges are supposed to be in the Western medicine or we call that the allopathic model, these
are the ranges that they use. And you can see that sometimes are ranges are a little bit different as is the case with
the GGT liver enzyme. In the Western medical model, anything between 3 and 70 is okay. We prefer to see optimal
function between 10 and 30. And you can see that she was super high, even in the Western medicine model, her GGT
levels were super high. Her ALT levels were quite high even by the medical model standards. And then the AST was
also too high.
Let me show you what we did. Here hold that.
Jonathan Otto: Thank you.
Dr. Elena Villanueva: Let me show you what we did in about five weeks. So we took her GGT from 202 to 80.
Jonathan Otto: Wow. That’s amazing.
Dr. Elena Villanueva: Yeah. We took her …
Jonathan Otto: In how many weeks?
Dr. Elena Villanueva: About five weeks.
Jonathan Otto: Wow.
Dr. Elena Villanueva: About a month, just because it took her a few days to get her supplements in the mail and then
she had to get started.
Jonathan Otto: Yeah true.
Dr. Elena Villanueva: And then the AST was 41. It’s now down to 20.
Jonathan Otto: Wow. And that’s within range, both of those?
Dr. Elena Villanueva: Yeah.
Jonathan Otto: Because I can see that it’s coming up there within range.
Dr. Elena Villanueva: This is perfectly within range. The GGT, we still need to get that down but that’s huge to get that
down that many points in a month.
Jonathan Otto: In a month, yeah.
Dr. Elena Villanueva: That’s huge. AST came back within range in a month and her ALT was 87. It’s down to 34. And
we have a little ways to go, we’d like to see it between 10 and 26. But still, that’s a huge change that we were able to
make in just about a month.
SUPPLEMENTS FOR DETOX
Dr. Daniel Nuzum: Let’s take a look at this here. Now, this is pretty interesting. I’m going to cover the herbs in this
first here in this bunch. First thing we have is green coffee bean extract, all right? Green coffee bean extract’s primary
function is actually in the liver. And what green coffee bean does, is it makes the liver more susceptible, if you will, or
more sensitive to insulin. Here’s an interesting fact. Each cell in your liver has 200 thousand, not 200, 200 thousand
insulin receptor sites because it needs that insulin to go in with the food that you’re consuming, okay?
So when you eat, food enters your digestive tract, it leaves the digestive tract through the bloodstream and goes into
the liver first before it reaches your general circulation. So the food has to be processed for the rest of your body, right?
Well, what this does is this helps the liver process sugar as it’s coming in, carbohydrates as it’s coming in, so that the rest
of your body can utilize that sugar properly so it doesn’t cause a massive rise in your blood sugar. Very, very important.
We have a cinnamon extract. Okay, cinnamon does something very similar and cinnamon not only does its work in the
liver, it helps out throughout the rest of the body. Okay, so the green coffee bean does more of its work in the liver
where cinnamon works more along the outside, out in the cellular level.
Cinnamon is excellent for the circulatory system, also. Anti oxidizes the arteries, veins and things like that so blood
flows better. Moringa. Moringa is our next herb. Now, moringa is in my opinion, more of an adaptogen. But it helps
with liver, kidney and pancreas functions.
LIVER CLEANSE
Dr. Sruti Lam: Because it is the largest organ, the liver has a lot of different functions, but it can be spoiled with a lot of
different things, too. Toxins accumulate in our liver, whether it is alcohol, whether it is drugs, whether it’s prescription
drugs. All of those go and embed themselves in the liver. Any kind of food that is inflammatory also embeds itself in
the liver, so any kind of processed food that we eat, foods high in sugar, foods high in dyes or any artificial flavors, all
embed themselves in the liver.
But the liver has a wonderful property of regenerating itself. It can repair and regenerate ourselves, and we can use
medicine to help accelerate that repair and regeneration. There are a lot of herbs that we can use for liver cleansing.
One of my favorite herbs is milk thistle. Milk thistle, also called silybum marianum, has an element in it called silymarin.
Silymarin is a great antioxidant, and it actually helps move things in the body. Silymarin is something that is used to
flush out toxins in your body. Sylibum, or milk thistle, can be eaten fresh, it can be drank as a tea, you can use it as a
tincture, or you can do just capsules. Many of my friends do silybum every day as a daily part of their detox routine.
Eating silybum, or eating milk thistle, helps cleanse the liver in several different ways, because it’s anti-inflammatory,
it is an antioxidant, and it actually releases a great antioxidant called glutathione. Glutathione is a substance that is

depleted with stress, with alcohol intake, with drug intake. Glutathione is a product in the body that actually flushes out
any toxins, and that’s why it’s antioxidant. It flushes out our free radicals by just cleansing it from SOD, or superoxide
dismutase. Deficiency of glutathione can cause sluggishness, brain fog, excessive stress, sleepiness, fatigue, energy
loss. All of that can be caused by the decreasing of glutathione. That’s why silybum is a very good herb to help increase
your glutathione in your body.
Another herb that is great for liver function tests, or to help normalize our liver, is dandelion. Dandelion, also called
taraxacum, is present for centuries. It grows as a weed. It grows anywhere on the soil, and you can actually notice the
dandelion because of the serrations it has on the leaf. The leaf, stem, and the root: all three of those can be used for
different reasons. Dandelion is a great diuretic, so it actually helps flush out everything in through your kidneys, and
helps with just rejuvenating your body.
All the toxins are bound by dandelion, and bound up together, and then just strung out of your body. Dandelion can
be drunk as a tea, and taken as a supplement as well. It is a bitter herb, so any bitter herb releases digestive enzymes.
Any bitter herb causes peristalsis in your gut. Causing peristalsis means causing movement in your intestines. When
movement is created, movement of toxins is created, movement of food is created, transportation of food happens.
So, it’s good to have good peristalsis in your body and help release all of those things out of our body.
HERBS FOR DETOX
Dr. Rudy Mueller: There are other ones that we need to be thinking about when we’re thinking about lymphatic system
or the kidneys. We can utilize different mushroom extracts. We can utilize antioxidants too. With the detoxification
process, we have phase one then we have some intermediates. Meaning that there’s some things that are created
based off of phase one detoxification. And then phase two detoxification which is then created that fat soluble sub-
stance now into a water soluble substance and now we can get rid of it, right?
So with phase one and phase two are doing things like nutrients, we’re doing B vitamins, methylation, we’re doing
glucuronidation, we’re providing additional nutrients to help invoke these processes. But herbs can be a great way to
help push this along and milk thistle is one of the most ... the ones that we utilize the most in our practice for sure.
These intermediates that are created between phase one and phase two are oxidants. So we want antioxidants to be
coming in. So we often tell patients to eat the rainbow, right? We have different colors of foods and fruits that have
these antioxidants in them. So food is one way that we can do this. But then the other is if we’re having a lot of toxins
and we’re trying to get rid of them, it’s doing things like acai or blueberry or pomegranate, these types of antioxidants
that can be utilized to help with that process.
CHLORELLA — DETOX
Dr. John Dempster: Chlorella is a very powerful compound. I love it because it actually has got some very mild che-
lating effects for toxins in our body. But it’s great for actually nourishing and tonifying cells. I think that’s just a great,
gentle, overall thing that a lot of us can do.
If we wanted to start getting the detox processes going, chlorella is just an easy thing that we can do.
CHLORELLA — SPONGE EFFECT
Dr. Daniel Nuzum: We have chlorella here. This would be something to add to that, especially for detoxing chemicals,
heavy metals. Chlorella is a good sponge. In the process of stepping it up with the colon cleansing and then starting to
work on the liver and kidney cleansing, if we used this product here, this is turmeric, ginger and bioperine product, if
we were to use this in that mix, it would speed up the drying up of the inflammation or swelling that people may have.
You can get some pretty good detoxing with this, pretty good clearing of heavy metals probably with this. I would use
this kind of stuff for heavy metals. I would use this definitely for liver, kidney support for sure. I really like this colon
formula. Again, this would be a good expeller formula. It’s what I would use that for, for expelling. Here’s what I would
look at. I would look at doing the first round of things for probably about two months and then moving on to the second
round for another two months. Usually, this is what I’ve found, I’ve found clinically the three to four month range for
a detox is right about spot on. If it’s not too draining a detox, people feel great and they just feel better as they move
through it. If it is too draining, it has too much drainage, then they usually detox too fast with it. Whereas this lay out
here, we could get a decent detoxing without running into detoxing too fast.
HERBS FOR DETOX — BINDERS
Dr. Rudy Mueller: So we now are getting them through this, now we need to bind, right? We need to have something
in the system that are binding two toxins and now getting rid of them, right? And so we can use things like chlorella,
we can use things like medications cholestyramine well call but other things like bentonite clay or charcoal those things
help with binding. And then removing. Right from the system.
And so the other piece to this is we want, as we’re removing it through the bowels we want our bowels to be moving,
we want to have good bowel movements. So utilizing different fibers and things to help with the actual bowel move-
ment occur and hold onto that hydration and get rid of it. You can use psyllium husk, you can use some fibrous based
seeds that things aren’t breaking down very well so now with these things, now absorb water and hold onto water and
now create more bowel movements.
CINNAMON — DANGERS TO LIVER: CEYLON VS. CASSIA
Brenda Davis: And so cinnamon is one that has been found to be quite helpful for that. Now when we talk about
cinnamon there are different types of cinnamon there’s a lawn sentiment and there’s Castillos cinnamon and. And so
we need to be a little bit aware there’s actually a compound in Cassia cinnamon that is a liver toxin and the liver toxin
is a fairly potent and in some countries and I was just amazed when I found this out. They actually have a limit on how
much they’re allowed to use in processed foods. So if they’re making cinnamon buns or they’re making cookies with
cinnamon they can only use so much of this cinnamon because of that liver toxin. And so if you’re using cinnamon
very liberally.
LIVER
Dr. Justin Moseley: And liver support itself, I mean, people don’t realize how much their liver does in the body, but
then how toxic we get, whether it’s water or the chemicals that are in our foods. Our liver’s having to process all of
that and detoxify us over and over, and our livers get worn out. So we have to support our livers. It’s one of the most
important things to do.
LUPUS & KIDNEY DISEASE
Dr. Joel Fuhrman: Now, likewise I’ve been a practicing physician in traditional medicine for more than 30 years, three
decades. And some of my most rewarding work has to be able to take women who have autoimmune conditions and
have them get complete recoveries. We’re talking about multiple sclerosis, lupus, scleroderma, Sjogren’s syndrome,

psoriasis, ulcerative colitis, rheumatoid arthritis. In other words, very serious illnesses that make a person’s life really
tragic. When a person has lupus they can go into kidney failure. People die of lupus and I’ve seen people die of lupus.
And I can give you one story after another, but one quick story. I had a young woman who was on the national renal
transplant list waiting for a new kidney, with lupus. And her creatinine was 4.2. And when I took her on as a patient I
was hoping to help her, but my expectation wasn’t that she would get totally well. I thought with all the kidney func-
tion she had lost, her kidney was more than 95% gone, I thought it would be impossible for her to make a complete
recovery. But you know what happened? Her creatinine went from 4.2 to 0.8. She made a complete recovery and got
rid of her lupus. That’s one of the many, many lupus patients that have recovered under my care.
NUTRIENTS — D3 & K2; KIDNEY HEALTH
Dr. Daryl Gioffre: When you look at things like Vitamin D, what does Vitamin D do? Why is it so important? Vitamin
D’s job is to absorb calcium in the large intestine. But, once that gets into the body, where does it go? Now, you need
high levels of magnesium to be able to absorb both of those, to have Vitamin D and calcium.Really, those three are so
important. But, once that calcium goes into the body, it needs direction. That is done with something called Vitamin
K2. Now, you get K1 from eating vegetables, which we are fine with. We get plenty of K1, but to get K2, there needs to
be a conversion through an enzyme. The problem with that in drugs is that it does two things.
Number one, it interferes with the body’s conversion of K1 and K2. K2 is critical because when the calcium comes
into the body, K2 tells it to go to the right places, to the bones. If you don’t have enough K2, take one guess where
it’s going, your blood vessel walls. It causes plaquing. It goes to your joints, causing arthritis. It goes to your kidneys,
causing kidney problems. That’s why I love taking a Vitamin D3 with K2, because it directs that calcium where to go.
But, the critical thing is that you need to have Vitamin D3 with K2 in the right ratios, but also magnesium and calcium
in a one to one ratio.
DETOXING — KIDNEYS
Dr. Gabriel Cousens: Now the next level is ... everybody’s really a little different, we’re not a bunch of cows, okay?
We take things ... we’re unique individuals, so not everybody’s going to have a kidney problem, not everyone’s going
to have a liver toxicity problem, or a pancreas or beta cell problem, so the next step is a little bit more individualized.
You know, with the tonic herbs, everybody can take those, because it makes everything work ... it tonifies everything.
But there are certain herbs for the kidneys that really make a difference, like what I do with people is I do a whole-per-
son healing, which takes about, on average, two-and-a-half hours, and I’d go over all the organ systems, and I go over
you know, central meridians, and a variety of things that we do. I go over radiation in the system, which is actually a
pretty big issue.
SYSTEMIC INFLAMMATION: PEGGY’S ANALYSIS
Dr. Daryl Gioffre: So this is the dry blood layer. This is called oxidative stress test. We’re looking at the dry blood right
here. You can see this big white circle in the circle of the sample and that usually shows that inflammation is in the
body but most likely it’s landing itself in the reproductive areas and or the gut as well. So we look at these things and
it’s not about treating that specific area, doesn’t mean there’s any issues in that area, but it means there’s inflamma-
tion that may be landing in a weak part of the body. So the key thing for Peggy is that we need to lower this systemic
inflammatory response.The key things that are going to be looking at her Omega-3, Omega-6 ratio. We have to get
more chlorophyll into her system because the chlorophyll is loaded with minerals. So minerals, minerals, minerals
is the key thing because the minerals is really what mops up the blood and cleans out the terrain and that’s going to
be the essential thing. We’re also seeing some lymphatic congestion, so I recommended to her to do some dry skin
brushing before her shower which opens up the corks of the skin so the lymph system can release itself.Also doing
something called a rebounder which is where you gently bounce on a mini trampoline and what that does is, you have
three times more lymph than you do blood and want we want to do is facilitate the movement of the lymph. We all
know that your body moves...blood, is by the heart. Your lymph system doesn’t have a heart so that movement on the
rebounder causes all that lymph to basically come up towards the heart, and then valves shut, and eventually it will
help itself come out through the skin. Come out through the four pathways which is urination, perspiration, defecation,
and respiration. Which are the elimination pathways of the body.
LYMPHATIC CLEANSING
John Schott: Okay. So lymphatic cleansing. Astragalus, which is a root, has been used effectively for that. And for just
general immune function, for very, very long. And it’s tried and true and it’s excellent. So I’m a big fan of astragalus.
On top of that, rebounding and moving the fluids of the body with natural movement. You know, jumping, rebounding
and some of this fascia work that we’ve been talking about is also extremely, extremely beneficial for the lymph flow.
So that’s one of the ways that we get that system to move more and have more of a flow to it.
Jonathan Otto: That’s good. Marigold.
John Schott: Marigold, cleavers. Like I said, some of these herbs, they’ve always been very effective. So they are ben-
eficial, they work. But again it’s, it’s an individual thing too. So it depends on where the person is.
LYMPHATIC SYSTEM
Jonathan Otto: What he would look at, the lymphatic side of things?
Dr. Daniel Nuzum: Actually, the digestive enzymes are excellent for loosening up the lymphatics. Here we talked about
turmeric. Here’s something interesting. Taking Vitamin D3, again, helps activate a lot of ... Here you got over 20,000
different enzyme functions that Vitamin D3’s involved with, all these chemical reactions that it’s involved with, that help
with detox, help with inflammation, help with hormone function, help with all kinds of different things. Vitamin D3 is
a fat soluble vitamin. A lot of times if you ... Matter of fact, if you were to take it with turmeric, turmeric helps you pick
up and absorb Vitamin D3. But taking Vitamin D3 with an Omega, some sort of oil, does help with the body picking up
and absorbing that Vitamin D3.
Those would be some of the ways I’d be using the Vitamin D3, turmeric, enzymes, those types of things to start loosening
up the lymphatic system. We get the lymphatic system ... You don’t want to flush the lymphatic system out. Flushing it
out could stress or bog down your kidneys and your liver. Your kidneys and liver have to filter everything that’s coming
out of your lymphatic system if the ... If you do too much drainage of the lymphatic system without draining the rest
of the system first, it can release what’s been, the monster that’s been contained in all your lymph nodes.
HERBS FOR DETOX — SLOW PROCESS — HERXHEIMER REACTION
Dr. Rudy Mueller: So I think there are definitely some supplements and things that we, that you want to utilize when
properly detoxifying. But are we starting low and slow with this process is important, so that you have any reaction.

Jonathan Otto: Great, and I think that, all the steps you’re outlining there are helpful in reducing the, what’s called
the Herxheimer effect.
Dr. Rudy Mueller: Absolutely.
Jonathan Otto: Right? Because, which is a strong violent reaction of the body having an overload of toxins which
can be its own issue of it being in a place that’s bad but then it goes into a place that’s worse because it hasn’t been
excreted from the system.
Dr. Rudy Mueller: And the Herxheimer reaction is well studied and when you look at the Herxheimer reaction it’s this,
we are pulling too much back out into the system, that the drains are not prepared for and open to then let go and
let out. And so now it’s recirculating and causing more of a problem. And some people will sit that they need to push
through it and that’s not our goal. Our goal is that you don’t have these significant side effects of fatigue and feeling
down and depressed or having your symptoms worsen, whatever those symptoms might be for you.
We need those things out and so to do it in a manner where if you’re only taking one capsule or you’re breaking a
tablet in half or you’re doing just a little bit to start and then slowly adding onto that protocol.
DETOXING — FEELING BAD AT FIRST
Dr. Joel Fuhrman: What I’m saying to you right now is two things. One is that when you go from an unhealthy diet to
a very healthy diet, you’re not going to feel better right away. You’re going to feel worse because when your body is
removing toxic buildup, or waste products, especially advanced glycation end products and reactive oxygen species
that have built up to a poor diet, you could feel very fatigued and feel poor and feel very poorly.
Now I can make you feel better by giving you some, by letting you smoke a cigarette, giving you sugar, having you
have hamburger meat or bacon. In other words, if we can flood the body with concentrated calories, you can stop the
detox process and you could feel better, but feeling better isn’t getting better. Feeling better is getting worse. Feeling
worse is getting better.
If your body is cleansing itself and repairing itself, it does so most efficiently in the non-feeding state, when you’re not
digesting food. When people eat a light diet of a salad and a vegetable bean soup, then they move into their catabolic
phase of the digestive cycle when they’re no longer digesting, and then they start to feel fatigued and wiped, and even
withdrawal depression from the concentrated calories and the overeating of sweets or animal products, which are
much more calorically concentrated.
They don’t have fiber. They don’t have phytochemicals and antioxidants. They flood the body with concentrated calories,
enabling us to metabolize more free radicals without the ability now to remove the free radicals that were produced.
We age ourselves with that type of way of eating, feeling better because you eat that way, because you’re eating a
diet that’s not letting you go into a rest phase. It a phase of the digestive cycle where we’re resting and digesting has
ceased. You have the anabolic phase, when we’re digesting food. When digestion is over, we enter a catabolic phase.
It’s during the catabolic phase where the body can most effectively heal and repair and remove toxins.
We can’t be taking food into the body and digesting it and be throwing waste products out as well as at a good rate. It’s
when we’re in that catabolic phase, we’re not digesting, that people don’t feel well and they think it’s hunger. They think
being shaky, having stomach cramping and having a headache and feeling fatigue is hunger, so they eat again. Their
unhealthy diet forced them to overeat. What some of these diets do, they give them food that’s very hard to digest.
Like a lot of meat where you keep digesting food for so many hours that you go right into your next meal where you
don’t spend any time in the catabolic phase, so you never really removing free radicals and you’re not supplying the
nutrients sufficiently to remove free radicals, anyway.
Jonathan Otto: What a key point to remember. Done right, detoxing should have minimal side effects, but if too many
toxins are being pulled out into the system and the detox organs cannot process and excrete them quickly enough,
you could have some negative effects. However, it’s important to note that parasite die-off also can cause symptoms
to arise, because the parasites are expelling neurotoxins, heavy metals, viruses and other toxins.
Some of the symptoms you may experience include fatigue, headache, stomach discomfort, aches and pains, skin
rashes and acne. But you can alleviate these symptoms with Epsom salt baths, which draw the toxins from your body;
ginger, which settles the stomach; getting lots of sleep, using essential oils, and castor oil packs. These are just a few
of the ways you can combat these uncomfortable reactions. But, if you persevere, you may be able to eliminate the
parasites or toxins that are causing the reaction in the first place. So, persistence is important. But don’t give up. You
are on your way to better health!
DETOX
Dr. Elena Villanueva: Well, detox at least once a year, and you can do food-based detoxes. If you don’t have the money
to get supplements, you can do it with food. It’s going to take a little bit longer to get results like this, but even the
detox that I do, it’s food-based and then with added supplements to make it work faster. Then, once you do that, don’t
put the garbage back in your body. Stop putting garbage back in. Eliminate the toxic household cleaners. Eliminate
conventional foods that have toxins in them.
Stop putting garbage into your body and keep eating clean. There are a lot of foods that you can continue eating on a
daily basis that will help you naturally continue to detoxify your body. So if people need something, if they need some
sort of guidance on what they can do, start at home in your kitchen. Start with the foods that you’re eating. And it’s
not a part-time job. You don’t just do it and then you go back to eating the way you were eating before. You have to
make it a lifestyle. You have to do it every day.
Jonathan Otto: This episode is a really pivotal part of the protocol we recommend for everyone. Detoxing the liver,
kidneys and lymphatic system is an essential part of healing the body. Without these steps, your symptoms may partially
improve, but parasites and heavy metals can cause your symptoms to persist or re-emerge. We hope that you will be
able to take what you’ve learned here and use these key ingredients to transform your body and begin your healing
journey as many of our other customers have done. More testimonials continue to pour in letting us know that these
protocols and herbs really work. We know there is hope for you or your loved ones as well.

EPISODE 7
CHRONIC SERIOUS ILLNESS: AUTOIMMUNITY,
HEART DISEASE, CANCER, AND STROKE
INTRO
Jonathan Otto: Chronic serious illness. The words alone strikes fear in the hearts of many and we rely on our doctors
and specialist to know how to help us. After all, it is the reason doctors go into medicine in the first place. Holding in
the highest of regards one of the oldest binding documents in history written by Hippocrates, the father of modern
medicine himself: The “Hippocratic Oath”. The oath states a doctor has the moral obligation to treat the ill to the best
of their ability and to teach the secrets of medicine to the next generation.
My mission is to end needless suffering by constantly striving to find better natural ways to heal and to share the truth
with you about the myriad of alternative methods available to treat the chronic illnesses plaguing millions of people in
the modern world. Big Pharma would prefer for you to believe that treating the symptoms of autoimmune diseases,
heart disease and cancer through expensive treatment plans, invasive procedures and prescription medication is the
only way. But the truth is conventional methods have been stagnant in their research for better side effect free methods
to truly heal the patient. As a whole, addressing the root of the conditions and diseases causing the symptoms in the
first place. This is because it is profitable to keep us sick.You will watch and hear tried, tested, and true success stories
not only from our doctors and experts but honest testimonies from people just like you who have survived and now
thrive by using incredible natural protocols. This despite being told they had exhausted all options.I want to share these
amazing secrets with you today. In the words of Hippocrates “Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food.”
CANCER SURVIVOR
Fran Drescher: Well I’m a cancer survivor and so I feel like I got famous, I got cancer, and I lived to talk about it. So
I’m talking and I wrote a New York Times best seller called Cancer Schmancer because it took me two years and eight
doctors to get a proper diagnosis of uterine cancer. And I didn’t want what happened to me to happen to other people
by means of misdiagnosis and mistreatment. And then when I went on my book tour and started speaking to people,
I realized that what happened to me has happened to millions of Americans and other patients all over the world. And
so from the book came the movement, the Cancer Schmancer movement. And what I try to do as a visionary of the
organization is to motivate, educate, and activate people to transform from patients into medical consumers. And to
understand that how they live equals how they feel. So they have to really start looking at how they live and doubling
down on the choices that they make that they be healthy ones, eco-friendly ones, and organic.
HEART DISEASE — BLOOD PRESSURE — PLANT-BASED DIET: PERSONAL TESTIMONIAL
Dr. Peter Breggin: I didn’t trust any nutritionist at all. I almost didn’t go to Pam Popper’s conference. So I went to Pam
Popper’s conference, and I met a scientist who has many similarities to me. She reads scientific literature, she’s sci-
ence-based and, of course, the scientific and medical establishments have gone after her and tried to ruin her career
just as they went after me early on, tried to ruin my career. We won, both of us. We have a lot in common.
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I heard Pam talking, for two conferences, about the plant-based diet. The science made sense. The evolution made
sense. The studies going back to the original China Study made sense. I was drawing in my mind to figure out how I
could help my wife get on a plant-based diet because she had been suffering for many years, probably 35 years, from
ulcerative colitis, inflammatory bowel disease. Every day was painful, every single day. She tried this and she tried that;
she just got worse and she got more upset. She wanted nothing to do with any of what I was doing with Pam.
So Pam, and I talked, and I decided that, well, I’m 25 pounds overweight or whatever, 30, I’ll go on a diet. Ginger loves
me. She’ll start me on the diet, maybe she’ll try it. What happened at that time in my life, I was about 79 years old, I’m
81 now, and I always thought I knew what I would die of. It was interesting. It didn’t frighten me. I’m not afraid of death.
I don’t want a painful death, but I’m not afraid of death.
I thought I might die of a cardiac problem because I was taking medication for high blood pressure. I thought I might
die of a cardiovascular respiratory problem because I was getting pneumonia or severe bronchitis almost every year
until Ginger figured out I had asthma, not my doctor, and then he put me on asthma meds. So I didn’t get pneumonia,
and severe bronchitis blows on asthma meds, inhalers all the time. I would take antibiotics five times a year, which my
allergist said that’s not bad for your age. I would take prednisone once a year or twice a year for one thing or another,
in this whole complex of the asthma problems.
GIL RODRIGUEZ: CANCER PATIENT TESTIMONIAL
Gil Rodriguez: I’m Gil Rodriguez. I am 34 years old, and I had quite a run in with I thought I’d never experienced before,
and that was in with cancer. And I always had cancer in the back of my head mainly because it does run in my family,
both my grandparents died from cancer, my uncle. And just kind of seeing a lot of that happen I was aware that that’s
one of the struggles I have to fight. Didn’t really think to get it as early as I did, but back in June of 2018 I started having,
well before then, I started having a lot of problems eating and swallowing food, not being able to swallow food, having a
hard time keeping it down. And within time, from about March to June it started progressively getting worse. Never saw
a doctor. I hardly ever go to doctors. I was like, “You know, not a big deal. I’m still young, I’m still strong. I can still take it.”
And finally just one day I had to go in because it was just getting out of control, and they thought I just had a type of
GERD, acid reflux problem. So they gave me some prescription medication, and a month of that didn’t really do anything.
Jonathan Otto: Did you feel like the medication was helping you
Gil Rodriguez: No, no it just felt like I was just taking a pill. Wasn’t really doing anything for me. I still had the same
problem; I still couldn’t eat. I was losing weight, not like fast or hard or crazy, but I was still losing weight not able to
consume the food that were good for me or I wanted. So then I went to the doctor again and we decided to do an en-
doscopy, where they turn the camera down your throat and they look at what’s going on. And they thought it was just
a procedure of stretching out my esophagus, maybe it was too small. It happens. But when they turned the camera
down there they found a tumor at the bottom of my esophagus where it meets my stomach. They biopsied it and when
I came to, they told me that they had found something in there.
Jonathan Otto: I got the pictures and it looked pretty gnarly. And it took about two weeks to get the results and it
came back cancer...esophagus cancer. So, that kind of threw a wrench in my plans for life, for family, work, I mean just
everything kind of turned upside down from there. That diagnosis happened probably the second week of June. To
hear them say the word cancer to me was, man it’s like someone just hit you in some deep core of your stomach and
you just couldn’t help but just panic almost. And it’s kind of what I did, I just panicked. You know, you start flashing
back things that may not be a possibility anymore, which I do tend to think a lot and over things, so that kind of got
the best of me a little bit.

CLOGGED ARTERIES: PATIENT TESTIMONIAL
Dr. Dr. Michael Klaper: I was privileged to be on the medical staff at True North Health Center, about an hour north
of San Francisco, for eight years. And so I saw over thousands of patients, actually over 2,000 patients come through in
those eight years. They had every medical catastrophe you can imagine. There were some common cords of obesity,
high blood pressure, diabetes, clogged arteries, inflammation, the Western disease spectrum. And I remember a couple
of patients that responded so beautifully. I remember a physiotherapist gentleman. He was in his late 50s. His arteries
were so clogged up that he could not walk across the courtyard, which is only about 20 yards, without stopping, with
terrible chest pain. He would turn gray and he had to take nitroglycerin, his angina was that severe. And not only was
this physically distressing and frightening, but it’s the feeling of the hand of death around your heart. And the man
was looking at his own mortality. It was frightening and shocking. You could see that in his whole countenance. Well,
the beauty of a plant-based diet is that it’s very gentle with the arteries and the plaque that was lining his artery walls
started melting away. The arteries opened up. Blood flow increased. Within 10 days he was walking across that court-
yard back and forth with no angina. Within three weeks he was walking around the building and enjoying every step
because he wasn’t having chest pain. And he spent a good two months at the center, and by the end he was walking
up the hill behind the clinic. He had a new lease on life. Talk about born again. This man was arterially born again.
And he was so grateful. He had a young grandchild that he could now watch grow up and feel optimistic about that.
There was a spring in his step, and color returned to his face. Blood flow makes quite a difference. It was wonderful,
wonderful to see. And, boy, he has stuck with it like he just will not take a risk to ever go back to where he was. It was
a spectacular transformation.
HEART DISEASE — BLOOD PRESSURE — PLANT-BASED DIET: PERSONAL TESTIMONIAL
Dr. Peter Breggin: Well, after the two weeks on the diet, I got weak, and I said to myself, “See? Nonsense.” I thought it
was nonsense. I said that to myself. I wasn’t going to say it aloud. I was still hoping it would help Ginger. Then Ginger
said, “Honey, why don’t you try your blood pressure.” I tried my blood pressure, and I was down to 100 systolic. I no
longer had high blood pressure, and it was two weeks on just a basic plant-based diet.
I thought this was really interesting. So then I kept on the diet. I lost about 30 pounds. I probably could still lose a little
more. I got over the asthma and pneumonia. I still, if I get into a very allergic system, maybe with a lot of mold, maybe
once every three months, I’ll take a single puff of my steroid inhaler, period. I don’t even take all the other stuff that
goes with it. I don’t take any of the pills.
Due to Pam Popper, I don’t know what I’m going to die of. How’s that?
Ginger started the diet. In two weeks, she was pain free for the first time that I knew her, pretty much. I probably had
been in emergency rooms with her a dozen times.
Jonathan Otto: What did that mean to you, Dr. Breggin, to see your wife like that?
Dr. Peter Breggin: It was like a godsend miracle. She’s been pain free ever since. She does not have ulcerative colitis
anymore.
Jonathan Otto: Our immune system is designed to protect and heal our bodies from antigens. Antigens are foreign
toxins and microbes that enter our bloodstream and have no business being there. In a properly functioning immune
system, antigens are identified and our bodies create microscopic soldiers that mark the antigens and wage war on
them. These are known as antibodies.An immune system disorder is classified as being either unusually underactive or
unusually overactive. In the case of a deficiency of the immune system, the body is unable to defend itself and is left
dangerously compromised and susceptible to chronic infections and diseases, even from the simplest of viruses like
the common cold.When the immune system is overactive, the body’s response to a specific trigger creates an increase
in antibodies which launch their immune attack on healthy cells and tissues in the body. This misfire of information
happening in the body is known as autoimmune disease.There are over 80 different types of autoimmune diseases.
Some you may have heard of in these episodes are lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, inflammable bowel disease (IBD),
Grave’s disease, psoriasis, multiple sclerosis (MS), diabetes, Hashimoto’s thyroiditis, to name a few.Sadly anyone of
any age can develop a similar response. The key is identifying the triggers that cause an abnormal influx of antibodies
and with that knowledge it is possible to stop and even reverse autoimmune diseases.
AUTOIMMUNE DISEASE
Dr. Joel Fuhrman: So, I don’t want people to think that because they can’t get well from that that that’s such a horrible
thing. And that’s the point. But other more serious illnesses we can get well and we can also classify asthma as an ... I
can call it an autoimmune disease: it’s partially autoimmune and partially a toxin and partially allergy, it’s like a mixture
disease. However, when we allow the body to remove toxins, when we flood the body with nutrients and we wean the
people off their toxic drugs, we take them off the beta agonist gradually, keeping them on the steroid inhalers and
eventually we wean down to weaker inhaled steroids and then we use, usually, the moderate caloric restriction or
moderate judicious use of fasting, we’re enabling these asthmatics to make complete recovery as well.
So, what I’m saying to you now is that nutritional excellence and these protocols that we’ve devised over the last 30
years are extremely effective for people with these chronic illnesses. And don’t be satisfied with being sick for the rest
of your life, you can get well.
CANCER — METABOLISM
Jonathan Otto: Dr Jay, when it comes to cancer, what’s the connection between cancer and autoimmune disease?
Dr. Jay Davidson: Cancer is directly related to the immune system. We’ve got basically two arms of the immune system.
The arms of the immune system need to be balanced, so think of it like a teeter totter. We don’t want one arm tipped
more than the other, so the two arms and these are the main ones, there are some more complexities to it. There’s
TH1 immune system and there’s TH2, and then there’s a bunch of chemokines and cytokines that are part of these
arms per se.
TH1 is basically that immediate response of the immune system, so when there’s a foreign invader it goes in, it tags
it. Then it also does cellular repair or basically like cell cleanup. Then TH2 immune system comes in and that’s more a
longer term. Let’s say that you get exposed to mercury. Mercury goes in the thyroid, the immune system’s like what
is this foreign thing, it goes in and try to kill it. It can’t kill mercury, because it’s an elemental element on the periodic
table. It’s not a living organism, and so the tissue around it starts being killed.
That causes an autoimmune, that’s autoimmunity of the thyroid. What happens then is TH1 tagged it, TH2 goes in and
it gets, the body gets stuck in there, because the mercury’s not dying. It’s chronically in this TH2 dominance. This is
where we get the RA, the MS, the Lupus, so we get stuck in this teeter totter, where TH2 you’re stuck in.
Then what happens is, now we’re deficient of TH1. TH1 is that cellular clean up or that cellular debris or when abnor-
mal cells are formed, it’s going to clean it up. For deficient of TH1, that’s where the cancer risk comes in, because we’re
missing the cellular clean up or the abnormal cell replication and we’re stuck in TH2.

Cancer really revolves around autoimmune in nature of TH1 versus TH2 from an immune standpoint. If we can, if we’re
dealing with cancer in abnormal cell replication, and stuck in TH2, then we want to do things to help boost TH1 and
bring down or modulate TH2. Or obviously if we’re stuck in TH1 dominance, then we want to balance that, but on the
cancer side, it’s usually TH1 suppression that then will put somebody at risk of cancer.
HOST — JONATHAN OTTO: HEART DISEASE
Jonathan Otto: The heart is commonly used to express a great magnitude of love. This is probably because it is one
of the five essential organs needed to survive and without it we are nothing. A properly functioning heart is imperative
to good health. As you probably know, the heart’s role is to pump blood through the body providing it with oxygen to
keep the organs alive, essential nutrients to feed the body and to help the body with the removal of excess or toxic
substances which can not be used left over from metabolic processes.
Proper respect for one’s body means treating it as a temple and being conscious of what we put into our bodies and
ask of ourselves. Diet, stress, inadequate sleep, inactivity, prescription or recreational drugs all put a strain on this vital
organ, resulting in the heart organ being overworked and conditions such as high cholesterol, high blood pressure, heart
disease and heart failure.. etc. develop.The good news is that the heart can be healed from the decades of damage
and abuse it has sustained.Many people believe their only options for heart disease are lifelong medications such as
(ACE) inhibitors, pacemakers or even surgeries. We want to show you that there is more you can do that may actually
reverse your heart disease so that you don’t have to live in fear of a heart attack or bypass surgery. The acclaimed Dr.
Caldwell Esselstyn is the director of cardiovascular prevention and reversal program at The Cleveland Clinic Wellness
Institute and a Fellow of the American College of Cardiology. Revered for his 150 scientific publications and conferences
he has held across the United States on the Elimination of Coronary Artery Disease. He has been the recipient of the
Lifestyle Medicine award and the lifetime leadership award.
Dr Esselstyn and his wife, Ann, have been following a plant-based diet since 1984, because he discovered that a plant-
based diet prevents heart disease. But you need not take him on his word alone, Dr Caldwell wrote the book Prevent
and Reverse Heart Disease based on his long-term nutritional research on “arresting and reversing coronary artery
disease in severely ill patients”.
I want to share the following statistics with you: His 12-year reversal study, details the experiences of 198 patients who
were severely ill with coronary disease. The study was later reviewed, over a 20 year+ time span, making it one of the
longest observational research studies of its kind.
Of the 89% who followed through with the plant-based diet program, 99.4% did not have any further major cardiac
incidents.
He has been quoted as making this very powerful statement, “Coronary heart disease is a benign foodborne illness
which need never exist or progress”
Stay with us and discover how to stay heart smart and live life with your whole heart!
HEART DISEASE
Bryan Clement: Now this isn’t something we guess we see people get rid of pancreatic cancer. We see people eliminate
multiple sclerosis. We see people. Absolutely reverse diabetic type 2 conditions so quick your head swings so-called
heart disease which isn’t a disease that 3% is a disease. 97% is lifestyle choice. Are you stressed. Do you exercise. And
do you eat things that clog your veins. If so you’re going to have heart disease and so all of this is much more simple
than the healthcare profession would like you to believe. Even the natural health care profession has everyone on the
leash: come to me; pay me; I give you something. Rather than: change you; live right; think better; you make yourself
better. So that’s our whole thing about educating people. When people come to us we’re not interested in creating
dependency on us. Our job is done when they’re independent when frankly they don’t need us anymore when they
recognize here are the tools that humans have used throughout history.
HEART DISEASE
Dr. Joel Kahn: Yeah, well again, I’ve been fortunate that I kind of stumbled into plant-based nutrition when I was 18
and adopted it for myself and my girlfriend, now my long-time wife, the only one of them, and so we’ve been eating this
way forever. So, really, every single cardiology patient I’ve ever had since 1990 has heard about plant nutrition because
I was excited about it and Dr. Dean Ornish published his first fundamental study about reversing heart disease in 1990
and, you know, I was rushing them to the Cath Lab putting in stents, sending them to bypass or valve replacements if
needed, they also understood. So, I’ve had broad experience. I’ve seen so many people transform their lives. More ex-
citing than that is, to me, the people that can avoid these procedures and avoid the decline in health span by adopting
plant nutrition for their overall health, for their brain.
PHARMACEUTICAL DANGERS
Sayer Ji: The scale at which pharmaceutical medicines are causing harm, and even deaths, in those who are taking
them, because they’ve been told, for example, by their doctors that if you don’t take this statin drug, you have a 50%
chance, or increased chance of dying of a heart attack. When it’s not true, right.
The trials show that there was maybe just a couple percentage points difference in absolute risk reduction, but then
they twist it semantically and they call it relative risk reduction. So what I mean by that is that you might give a thousand
people a statin drug, and instead of two people dying of a heart attack, one person does. So, it’s as if you saved one
person’s life, right, out of a thousand. You gave all thousand the statin, and now some of them died of cancer because
you did that in other endpoints, right, they’re not measuring.
So, but you say, okay well, we saved one person out of a thousand. But actually, in relative risk reduction terms, it was
a 50% reduction in cause-specific mortality. In this case heart attack. The absolute risk reduction was completely insig-
nificant. They shouldn’t even have published on it. So that’s the semantics that they use to push these drugs on people.
So when you go to your doctor’s office and they’re like, well the research on statins is clear. If you don’t take this, you
have a 50% increased risk of having a heart attack. This is the level at which it’s translated to the public, and it’s a form
of sorcery ultimately, because it’s using language in a way that it completely manipulates people in the wrong direction,
right, to the dark side.
HEART DISEASE
Dr. Joel Kahn: My dear friend in Detroit, Paul Chatlin, mid-50s, businessman that was developing angina pain, was
researched to go down to the Cleveland Clinic from Detroit, recognizing it was a major center of heart disease, had the
inside test called the catheterization, was told you need bypass. Come back, we’ll do your open heart surgery, and we’ll
replace things and take things out of your legs, and he was all for it. What are you going to do? You get told you need
bypass in your mid-50s, you have bypass. But, the night before surgery, he learned that there was a famous doctor
who taught prevention and reversal of heart disease, Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn, and Paul Chatlin reached out and had a
conversation, and actually checked himself out of the hospital.

Think if you’d be brave enough to check yourself out of the hospital 12 hours before open heart surgery that every
doctor at the Cleveland Clinic told you that you needed, except one, the one that gave him the name of Dr. Esselstyn.
But within a few months, Paul Chatlin was completely and strictly a whole food, plant-based, no oil, diet zealot, really.
Had lost weight, blood pressure down, cholesterol down, chest pain went away, shortness of breath went away, back
playing tennis, back fully active with his family. No scar on his chest, no scar on his leg, no postoperative complications
that can happen with strokes and infections and such, and it’s been now five years plus. And Paul is vibrant and looks
in better shape than ever as he’s hit 60 and beyond. And kind of the neat thing he feels so grateful about all this as
just one case study that in Detroit.
HEART DISEASE
Dr. Pam Popper: About heart disease in women, and for a long time, the myth was pervasive that women would start
having heart attacks in their 40s and 50s. That’s when women are going through menopause, and so the myth that
circulated ... and it’s amazing how many times this happens, where the medical profession will look at something that’s
going on and infer some cause and effect relationships and then run with it, it becomes a multi-million dollar industry,
a billion-dollar industry.
If heart attacks are happening in women about the time they go through menopause, then it’s probably, “Ah, lower
estrogen levels causing the heart disease.” Turned out that that wasn’t the case at all even though that became part of
the justification for giving women hormone replacement therapy for a long time. What it is really is that women take
longer to experience the negative consequences of eating a poor diet. Women who have heart disease have it for the
same reason as men who have heart disease. You eat a lot of saturated fat, cholesterol, and animal foods and protein
and you don’t drink enough water, and you don’t exercise, and before you know it, you have narrowed arteries and
high blood pressure and lots of plaque in the arteries, and you’re really at high risk of a heart attack or stroke. It’s the
same really for women and men. The difference is at what age the negative effects are very noticeable.
You want to talk about drugs for heart disease. One of the areas in which people have a very big false sense of secu-
rity about their health is this early diagnosis of hypertension and high cholesterol. When you’re diagnosed with high
cholesterol, the standard treatment is statin drugs, which lower your cholesterol. If you look at the population data on
people who have high cholesterol and take a drug like Crestor, for example. Crestor reduces the risk of heart attack,
stroke, or mortality by 1.2%; Lipitor, 1.6%.
SUPPORT GROUP
Dr. Joel Kahn: He called me five years ago and told me the story I just told you. Said, the only thing missing in my
life, I don’t have a support group because I think I’m the only person I know that is eating as carefully as I eat and that
puts optimal nutrition so high as a priority. And I get a little pushback from some family members and coworkers, can
we make a support group? And I said, yes, thank you for calling me. We met and we announced we were developing
a support group for 20 people. Well if you fast forward in Detroit, the motor city, Motown, we’ve got a plant support
group that has 6,000 members now from that phone call.
We think it is; it doesn’t have to be the largest. I wish there were 50 others like it that were larger, but I think it is the
largest in the United States. We meet many times a month, small little groups, cooking classes, education classes, and
then maybe every two, three months we have a major speaker come in, maybe Dr. Joel Furhman, Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn,
Dr. Neal Barnard, Dr. Garth Davis, Julieanna Hever, but somebody that can teach and update our skills and our com-
mitment, and it’s really been profound. So absolutely a hero, a tremendous story. Who knows people that were facing
a surgical knife and were able to beat it by simply changing their diet, and it’s miraculous.
HOST — JONATHAN OTTO: CHOLESTEROL
The good, the bad and the ugly…
We know that high cholesterol levels could mean clogged arteries and reduced blood flow. High cholesterol levels
are linked to an increased risk of heart disease or stroke.In turn this could mean being on a prescription medication,
bypass surgeries, angioplasty and maybe even the insertion of stents to force the valves open and keep fat from ac-
cumulating.In this next part of the episode we discuss a subject often on the minds of many while making choices in
the grocery aisles.
What are the good and bad fats?
How do we identify the saturated fats and the non saturated fats?
How much fat does our body really need?With all the fad diets out today, it’s easy to get confused. Our doctors and
experts have the answers to keeping your cholesterol levels down. Let’s take a look..
FATS & CHOLESTEROL: BLUE ZONE PROTOCOL
Dr. Dean Sherzai: So there’s a whole battle that the problem is sugar and the — or the problem is meat and satu-
rated fats. Reality is the problem is, are both of those. In fact, more on the saturated fat level. Sugar, elevated sugar
definitely affects the system. Ironically it also causes significant amount of inflammation, that’s in a whole different
thing that processed sugar does. But saturated fats, we’re not even talking about T may- TMAO’s and all these other
factors, saturated fats affect those receptors, those insulin receptors. And it’s almost like it clogs it up. Of course it’s a
little more complicated than that. And by doing so, it doesn’t make it available for insulin, and if insulin is not able to
bind to the receptor, glucose can’t get in. So it’s both saturated fat and sugar levels, but especially saturated fat levels.
It’s so funny that people make statements because of confirmation bias things like, you know, we’ve done all these
commercials and this public uh, education about fat, yet we still have diabetes and we still have disease, so it must
not be fat.
And it’s cynical, because they know that yes, we might have done the education, but the amount of fat consumption
has not gone down, it has gone significantly up. We’ve done a bad job of educating. The marketing of selling fat and
meat has been way better than the marketing of selling not eating fat and meat. So that’s why ... you might have been
uh, doing some educating out there as far as not eating meat, not eating fat, but the marketing for the selling was way,
way better. And that’s why the consumer — the statistics are clear, the statistics show that in the last 10 to 15 years,
despite the marketing against meat and uh, fat, that consumption of meat and fat has gone exponentially up.
So when they make the argument that it must not be fat or meat because we’ve been doing all these commercials and
against it, they are cynical. They know better. They know that our marketing has been terrible as far as public health
is concerned, but as mar marketing, as far as salesmanship of meat and fat has been absolutely, bewilderingly good.
Your body produces a lot of fat and cholesterol, but you still need some fat. And, uh, because a lot of the vitamins are
what they call fat, um, soluble vitamins, and you need some fat. So what kind of fat is that? The kind of fat that’s most
uh, beneficial, is that kind that’s- you find in foods. Um, and usually most often they are poly and monounsaturated
fats that are found in avocados ... and none of them are without, uh, they all have some level of saturated fats as well,
but lower um, levels. Uh, and, and nuts and seeds, they all have fats, these are good fats.
And it’s important that we don’t, you know, eat those fats in excess as well. You can’t just live off of nuts. You, you, you
will not be very healthy. So a certain amount of fat from nuts and things of that nature, as well as avocados is fine.

It also depends on your disease states. Always take these things with your own personal state in mind. If you have a
genetic cholesterol disease, disease process that you’re, you’re, uh, naturally have a high cholesterol level, then you
have to be a little more rigid as far as even natural fats. But if we’re general population, the fats that you get in foods
and natural foods are fine. Things that are actually processed and extracted, certain foods have a significant amount
of saturated fat, which has not been found to be good for the body.
So there is a little bit of learning to be done as far as what is saturated fat, what’s poly and monounsaturated fats, how
much we need, and the third level is personalization. If I have a genetic or familial disease, I have to be a little more
rigid even with the good fats. In general, fats uh, should be taken in food form, and if you’re going to add any poly and
monounsaturated fats, which should be minimal, you know, it, it should be in small quantities.There are four types of
Omega-3 fatty acids. The ones that we can talk about are ALA, which is alpha-linolenic acid, EPA, ETA and DHA.
ALA is the only thing that is found in plant sources, so found in greens, in nuts, and seeds, especially flax seeds, chia
seeds, all of them have the ALA component of the Omega-3 fatty acids.
EPA, ETA, and DHA are found in oily fish, krill, roe, mussels. All of those have more of the EPA, ETA, and DHA substances.
Omega-3 is really, if you’re not a vegetarian, available in a lot of fish oils. That is how it is marketed as.
What is the use of Omega-3 fatty acids? Omega-3 fatty acids have been found to lower inflammation in your body.
There was a study done with Omega-3 fatty acids with NSAIDs. They were equal in competency in having an efficacy
for results shown in 122 people. That it decreases inflammation, any kind of pain, whether it be joint pain, abdominal
pain, muscle pain that you have. Omega-3 fatty acid has been shown to decrease inflammation in the body.
It is also used to lower cholesterol. The FDA has actually approved Omega-3 fatty acids for decreasing triglycerides in
the body. By decreasing triglycerides, you can decrease your bad cholesterol, and that will actually help in having a
healthier heart and healthier blood vessels.
HOST — JONATHAN OTTO: INFLAMMATION
Jonathan Otto: In line with the perfect design of the body, general inflammation when we injure ourselves is the body’s
way of immobilizing it, defending it and protecting it until the injured limb or wound has had sufficient time to rest and
heal.Chronic Inflammation due to unhealthy high trigger foods, stress, high blood sugar levels and obesity is another
story altogether. Did you know that chronic inflammation can increase your likelihood of having a stroke or heart attack?
We’ve interviewed the experts on inflammation. They will explain the various causes of chronic inflammation and share
with you what they have discovered we can do to reverse it. You’ll learn about the incredible all natural spices you may
already have in your kitchen pantry that are excellent anti inflammatory agents. These natural herbs are healthy for
you, they taste great, they are inexpensive and they are readily available.These are some very easy lifestyle choices
you can start doing right now to heal your body from painful and harmful inflammation.
OMEGA-3 & 6 RATIO — HEART DISEASE
Dr. Daryl Gioffre: As far as heart disease goes, you have to really look at one of the most important numbers in the
body, which is the Omega-3 Omega-6 ratio. I said before that cholesterol is not the problem. It’s inflammation. One of
the biggest causes of inflammation in your bloodstream is higher levels of Omega-6 fats and not enough Omega-3s.
There’s research showing that 96,000 preventable deaths can happen, but why do they happen? Because of Omega-3
deficiency. So, you have to really measure that number. We do that with something called the Omega-3 acid index test
here at my office where we take a drop of blood and literally within 12 days, we can see, number one, how deficient
you are in Omega-3s, and number two, what that ratio is. If that ratio is one to one, you’re in great shape. That means
systemic inflammation throughout your cardiovascular system is at very, very low levels.
Now, why do you need a one level of Omega-6s? People say, “If it’s bad, why should you have it at all?” Because, inflam-
mation heals. In the short run, you need inflammation to heal your body. If I slam my fingers in the door, it’s the blood
coming to those tissues, what makes it heal. But, inflammation when it’s chronic becomes bad for the body. That’s
what that imbalance does. When you have a ratio of more than one to four in favor of Omega-3s and Omega-6s, when
they number goes above one to four, then it becomes highly inflammatory to your cardiovascular system, and your
incidence of heart attack, stroke, any sort of cardiovascular issue skyrockets.
REVERSING HEART DISEASE — LIFESTYLE — ASSESSING RISK (TEST) — SIMPLE SEVEN
Dr. Joel Kahn: The beauty of the message from a heart doctor teaching on how to prevent heart disease, how to
reverse established heart disease using lifestyle. Lifestyle’s the word. Lifestyle is nutrition. Predominantly what you
eat, three meals a day, which you snack on, but it is more than nutrition. It’s adequate sleep. It’s fitness. It’s managing
stress, anxiety, and anger with maybe yoga, with meditation, with community relations, church, synagogue, mosque,
whatever works for you, music. Music’s wonderful and helps many people deal with the stress of life. Now it’s all of
that. It’s obviously not smoking. It’s trying to maintain optimal body weight.
And the beauty of it is there’s, for example, the American Heart Association has something they call the Simple Seven.
You can go on their website, a little self test you can do. Frankly, it’s a pretty crude test, but it’s better than not doing
anything. What’s your weight? What’s your blood pressure? What’s your cholesterol? What’s your blood sugar? Do you
smoke? What’s your diet like? What’s your mom, dad, brother, sister in terms of any family history of heart disease?
And you can pump out a little prediction what your risk over the next 10 years of developing something as awful as a
heart attack or stroke. Well the data is, if you go through that process and you score well, you basically just did a brain
health exam. You did a brain health score even though it wasn’t put out initially as a brain health assessment, but it has
shown subsequently to be very predictive and really very recently it’s been shown it predicts very accurately whether
you might develop adult diabetes or not.
So these things are so overlapped. They have so many common threads. Lifestyles that promote inflammation by
eating processed food, by eating high fat foods, by not exercising, by gaining weight, by not sleeping, by smoking, by not
managing stress. Boom, inflammation. Middle word is fire, flame and you can measure it in the blood with blood tests
like high sensitivity, C-reactive protein. And by adopting this wonderful protective lifestyle, you protect yourself from
inflammation. There’s another fancy word that’s very bad for the brain, the heart, diabetic risk called oxidative stress.
And it’s a balance between antioxidants that you are exposed to and the stress, the pollution, the smoking, the lack of
sleep, the poor nutrition that causes rusting, oxidation. And we’ve learned that the best diet to fight inflammation is
a plant diet that is naturally anti-inflammatory. We’ve learned that the best diet and lifestyle to avoid oxidative stress
and really rusting your organs, rusting your brain, rusting your heart arteries. And it’s not literally rust, but we do call it
oxidative stress because the tissues will have a chemical very similar to the way metal we’ll have a chemical reaction.
Is to eat a high antioxidant diet.
HEART DISEASE & BRAIN HEALTH
Jonathan Otto: From your experience, have you seen a correlation between heart disease and the brain, brain health?
Dr. Pam Popper: Oh, big correlation between heart disease and brain health, and it makes perfect sense when you
think about it. The brain is the biggest utilizer of glucose and oxygen and water nutrients, well how does this get deliv-
ered to the brain? The cardiovascular system. So if you’re eating your way into cardiovascular disease, of course you’re

going to eat your way into dementia and Alzheimer’s. What you see is as the incidents of cardiovascular disease goes
up, so does the incidence of Alzheimer’s, and this is not only true in the United States but it’s true everywhere else.
Alzheimer’s is very specifically geographically distributed. You don’t see much of it, you don’t see any of it in Okinawa.
You see very little of it in rural Asian communities, and you don’t see any of it in northern Africa. You know where you
see it? In the meat-eating countries, like Norway and Australia and the United States, because all that animal food
intake is clogging up the arteries and creating cardiovascular disease, and there’s a tremendous correlation between
the two, same causes.
It’s very unfortunate, right now, the leading growth industry in the nursing home business is memory care. You do not
want to end up in memory care. It’s the worst quality of life of the planet because you are just warehoused until you
die and increasingly drugged up because giving anti-psychotics to Alzheimer’s patients makes them nice, docile, and
kills them early, actually.
HOST — JONATHAN OTTO: CANCER
Jonathan Otto: Cancer is possibly the most chilling word ever uttered. Chances are that you know or knew someone
with this devastating disease. The World Health Organization states it’s the second leading cause of death globally, and
was responsible for an estimated 9.6 million deaths in 2018.Is it possible to cure cancer naturally? With so many still
suffering, the thought of an affordable natural cure, without the harmful, painful radiation and treatments, seems like
an impossible dream. Being able to see tumors shrink in just a few months.
Just listen to our incredible testimonials, Dr. Peter Breggin, one of our guest speakers, doesn’t believe in miracle cures
but there was no denying it when he witnessed first hand how a drastic change in diet saved his friend from the rav-
ages of cancer.
Cancer and disease latch on to broken cells floating around in our bodies called free radicals. Foods high in antioxi-
dants for example eradicate the free radicals. So it stands to reason that opting to eat these healthy foods instead of
toxic fast food and maintaining healthy immune systems (our bodies defence army), will protect us from getting sick.
Watch as we explain how the body is meant to heal itself, what we should be mindful of putting into our systems and
how to ensure proper elimination of accumulated waste and harmful toxins.
Gil Rodriguez: My worst days with cancer was trying to...I can’t remember, well maybe I can remember how it happened
but there was a point where I was going through the healing process and my body took a turn for the worst. My body
wasn’t accepting a lot of the treatments and this was before we had a lot of information about the cancer itself. We were
trying a lot of things to begin with and one of them didn’t go well, put me in the hospital. I was in pain from my chest
and my esophagus area was just...I’m sorry...just pain everywhere. Just couldn’t get rid of it, couldn’t lay down right. So
I actually got put in the hospital. And I was in there for about two weeks and they had me on morphine, they had me
on all kinds of painkillers, fentanyl, and all I could do was just lay there and just try to be in pain and try to eat. I would
eat, it’d come back up again. I just couldn’t. I lost about 100 pounds in that time from just not being able to eat, not
being able to put anything down. Just being in pain. I wasn’t walking at all, I wasn’t moving at all, so all fat all muscles,
everything just gone. Prior to being diagnosed I was 240. My lowest I got was 148 in about two weeks, three weeks time.
So even that much of weight loss that fast just put my body in shock, put my body in starvation mode. They had to put
a PIC line in me and feed me intravenously with a TPN I believe it’s called. And that’s how I ate for about two weeks,
just through an IV. Between that and painkillers, it was just like...I don’t know. At one point, the hospital said there was
nothing else we can do except send you home on hospice care. So, hearing that told me, well, now I’m just going to go
home and die. Like, that’s basically what they told me.
CANCER — COMBATTING TRIGGERS
Jonathan Otto: Dr Jay, if somebody can protect themselves from this autoimmune mechanism, reduce their exposures,
get their immune system working properly, make sure they’re not like introducing foreign invaders to affect their system
that they can have confidence against diseases like cancer?
Dr. Jay Davidson: Oh, absolutely. I mean your body was designed to heal, so when you support the body, remove
what’s interfering with it ... I always think of it, God doesn’t make junk. Our bodies were made to heal. Our job like
from a clinician standpoint is to identify, okay, what’s interfering with it and let’s work on removing it, and let’s get out
of the way. Let’s let the body heal.
CANCER-REVERSING LYMPHOCYTIC LEUKEMIA
Dr. Peter Breggin: I’ll tell you one story from my practice. I don’t believe in this kind. I don’t believe in fads. I don’t be-
lieve in miracle cures. I’ve stood fast against all of them. It’s not a miracle cure. It’s returning to eating the way we did
when our bodies were growing.
I had a friend. He’s a professor, dear friend. We share political views. We talked about stuff. He confided in me, he didn’t
confide to anybody else except his wife, that he had chronic lymphocytic leukemia, been diagnosed by his primary,
by an endocrinologist, by a hematologist. He had it, and he was probably going to live with it. They thought that he
might survive it. He might have it when he died from something else; they weren’t sure. But he certainly had it, and
then he was going to have it. I urged him to go on a plant-based diet, and I referred him to Pam, who shares a lot with
us in common. He called Pam. He became a patient of Pam, which is remarkable, easy and inexpensive. He did the
plant-based diet totally in the most extreme way you can, and he doesn’t have chronic lymphocytic leukemia anymore.
Folks, I’m just not gullible. I’m just not somebody who thinks this kind of thing happens. The plant-based diet makes
sense because we ate mostly plants. By the way, whose health is not as great as everybody says, “In no society do people
who eat a lot of fat have the best health. In all societies where people have the best health, they are on the more plant-
based side of the continuum.” Pam doesn’t even advocate you have to become a vegan or vegetarian. What she says,
and I think this is true, is the more you eat on the plant-based diet and of things which means no dairy … I’m a strong
believer in no dairy. That would be the only no-no. I would say stay away from dairy, and stay away from processed
foods. If you’re going to have some meat or something, you find the best you can but don’t do much. It’s a continuum.
The more you’re reading on the plant-based diet, the more you may even fully recover from cardiac disease, get over
your hypertension, lose your asthma.
CANCER
Liana Werner-Gray: Sure, so I grew up in Alice Springs, which is right in the middle of Australia. So, we had a very indig-
enous, rich upbringing. That impacted me from a very young age. I remember I was five years old, and they would take
us out on school excursions and teach us how to survive from nature. That’s when a little light bulb went off in my brain
that said, “Okay, so the healthiest way for us to live is to be able to go out to our own backyard and pick foods like fruits
and vegetables, seeds and nuts straight from the earth and eat them. I remember thinking that. Then, all throughout
my childhood, my parents raised us very natural, quite healthy. Then, as soon as I was going to university, I moved to

the city, to Brisbane City. That’s when I started to indulge in a very fast food, processed food lifestyle. Whenever I had
a craving for anything that I wanted, I would just go out and eat it.
So, if I had a craving for chocolate, I was like, “Okay, I’m going to go get chocolate or gummy bears, McDonald’s, pizza,
KFC, Doritos, any kind of junk food.” You name it, I would eat it. I lived this way for five years. So, I ate junk food for
breakfast, lunch, and dinner for five years. That’s when I had a huge wake-up call. One day, something just popped in
my neck, and I went to the hospital. I had a three point seven centimeter tumor the size of a golf ball in my lymphatic
system. I was at the end of 21 years old. I was like, “Damn, I’m so young. This is such a bad start to life.”
CANCER
Bryan Clement: So now with that said when you’re dealing with a cancer or a virus or a bacteria what you’re really
doing is looking at an infection in the body. One is a cellular mutation. That’s the case of cancer. The other is a microbe.
The next two are microbes the virus strews itself into the human cell. The bacteria floats and contaminates the blood-
stream the plasma itself. But in every case there is one remedy and that’s your immune system. This extraordinary
system it’s like the armed forces of Israel. There’s an air force navy and army marines Green Berets. And each of these
cells Leukocytes each cinephiles bass feels neutral sites Grandis sites lymphocytes each go after a certain enemy. Isn’t
that remarkable. And when you’re eating these plant-based foods that are filled with phytochemicals, and don’t have
pesticides, and don’t have herbs, and don’t have fungus sides it enhances the immune system. So it feeds you Army
ism jet fuel. And in doing that they attack the mutagen or the microbe.
BREAST CANCER — DANGERS OF MAMMOGRAMS
Jonathan Otto: No. With mammography. Dr V, with mammography versus thermography, what’s your choice and
why? Are they major dangers in one direction versus another, or overdiagnosis or underdiagnosis in one or the other?
Or any serious side effects or conditions or cancer that can develop from either of those.
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: So personally, I’ve never had a mammogram. That’s not to say that women don’t rely on
them. But when we look at the studies, for example, there was a 25 year Canadian study done on over 90,000 women
and they found that mammography did not reduce breast cancer mortality rate, not by 1%, and it was just as effective
as a woman doing a clinical breast exam.
There was another study done, a 23 year study and they found that mammography found tumors 43% of the time, an
accidental find or breast exam found it 43% of the time, and then when you add clinical touch to that, it was 56%, so
physical touch actually was better than a machine in finding a lump. We know that radiation causes cancer. Why do
you want to radiate and compress your breast tissue consistently?
We know that radiation causes DNA damage, so you have to ask yourself the question, if there’s a small tumor in there
and you compress and you radiate, does that have the potential to spread cancer cells throughout the body? That’s
the reason on that.
Thermography on the other hand uses no compression, no pain, no radiation. Just like mammograms it will not di-
agnose cancer, but it will alert you as to any type of physiological changes going on in the breast tissue. So we know
that cancer will produce something called angiogenesis or a neo-vascularity where it creates its own blood flow. So
oftentimes if there’s potentially a tumor developing, then you can see that vascularity in the breast tissue. So it’s a
great tool. They’re not standalone. I always recommend if you do one, always use another as a backup. So ultrasound
is great. Sometimes women do breast MRIs as well just to get even more clear about what’s happening in their breast
tissue. And then lastly, proper breast self exam every month, to me is a real game changer and a lifesaver.
Jonathan Otto: Awesome. I love that. Fantastic. And it seems like there’s a war on women’s breasts right now and,
intentional and intentional, but what... it’s sad.
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: It is. It is. They’re almost like commodities. Like the more mammograms we can do, the
more surgeries, the more implants, the more reconstruction, it’s just like... Love those girls, you know? Let’s not treat
them like they’re just an appendage that has no meaning or function. They’re there for a reason. And so if we come to
recognize that that’s part of our physiology and our feminine makeup, then I think we should have more respect for
our breast tissue.
I encourage women who’ve had a mastectomy, I don’t encourage you to get an implant and reconstruction because
you’re adding fire to the fuel so to speak, or fuel to the fire. Embrace your body. That’s part of your journey. Love your
scars. One of our clients, her husband said, “I don’t care what appendage you lose, as long as I can still see your face
and tell you that I love you. That’s the important part.”
BREAST CANCER: FLAXSEED VS. PHARMACEUTICAL DRUGS
Sayer Ji: Yeah. Yeah, actually, I love walnut, because it’s so in your face. It’s this bi-hemispheric brain of the walnut meat,
and it has all these Omega-3 fatty acids, that are very rare to find in plant form, which feed the brain, which dispropor-
tionately requires the precursor ALA to produce DHA and EPA, which are the animal Omega-3s, without which we can’t
neuro-conduct, and we can’t have a healthy brain. A walnut also has been identified to have certain compounds that are
neuroprotective, and it’s got this corpus callosum in the middle, just like a brain. It’s just so perfect, right, with the skull.
I love things as basic as flaxseed, because they’re just this amazing example of a food that produces this mucilaginous
gel. It looks just like epithelial cells, right, the cells that line our nasal passages, all the way down the alimentary canal.
Because flaxseed is such a good thing for ulceration-related conditions, and helps to regulate epithelial tissue cancers,
like for example, breast and prostate, and those are very hormone sensitive. And, it turns out that flaxseed has these
lignans, which are turned into enterolactone, and enterodiol, which are the plant analogs of endogenous estrogens.
Only, the difference is that when you have excess of estrogen of that type, humans, let’s say estradiol, it will over-
stimulate certain receptors in the body. That’s why sometimes estrogen dominance they talk about, being related to
fibrocystic dense breasts, and therefore precursors to types of hormone-sensitive cancers, is that it can block out the
action of very strong estrogens, while simultaneously stimulating mildly the receptor, and maintaining longer contact
at that receptor site. Which means that it’s basically adaptogenic, it’s modulating the receptor. It’s also known as a
selective estrogen receptor modulator.
Pharmas try to co-op that and created aromatase inhibitors like Arimidex, right, to try to fight breast cancer. But, flaxseed
has now been clinically validated, epidemiologically, all these animal studies as well, to be one of the most powerful
preventive chemotherapeutics on the planet.
So, in terms of people who have already been diagnosed with breast cancer, they take flaxseed. The chance of recur-
rence goes down significantly, and future mortality-related cancer significantly drops. It’s just a seed, and it has this
amazing benefit. This mucilage is so good for regularity, and that’s one of the benefits of it. If you go on www.green-
medinfo.com, we’ve indexed research on flaxseed, there’s over 70 health benefits of it identified in the literature, and
it can’t hurt a single fly on the planet.
So that’s why, when I look at the Pharma model, and you look at Arimidex, right. It’s like a drug produced by AstraZeneca.
AstraZeneca actually also owns the patent on Tamoxifen. This is the company that was part of Imperial Chemical
Industries, and they started Breast Cancer Awareness Month in ‘85, so people think this is a government-sponsored
awareness-raising event to help save people from breast cancer.

Actually, it was a combination of Big Pharma, American Cancer Society, as well, and the government, who are working
together to make the public think that the best thing they could do to prevent cancer is early detection, because we
don’t know what causes cancer, right. For example, the chemicals Imperial Chemical Industries was producing, I think
polyvinyl chloride was one, used in PVC, known mammary carcinogen. And, this company is sponsoring this awareness
event that’s making people think we need to raise more billions of dollars to find a cure.
The cure is, you identify the cause and you remove it. That’s the cure. Instead, they’re saying, oh, well actually, take
Arimidex, or take Tamoxifen, which is classified by the World Health Organization as a carcinogen. It’s a powerful liver
carcinogen, it may even contribute to breast cancer. This is called pinkwashing, right, cause-marketing campaigns that
make people think that the very products and companies behind the breast cancer epidemic are going to save them
from it, using pharmaceuticals or raising more money.
So, flaxseed in that context is this incredible alternative food that has been validated to truly prevent, and even in some
cases, regress cancers that are hormone sensitive breast and prostate, and it costs pennies a day. And that’s the reason,
is that obviously Pharma is, it’s a death sentence for Pharma for people to know this information.
Gil Rodriguez: The doctors from City Hope. Basically the hospital I was at offered City Hope to come in and help me
out and they basically said you either start chemo or they send me home on hospice. Those were my options. So, what
do I do? I mean, start chemo...sure. So, I didn’t want to but it is what it is. So I did two sessions of chemo with City Hope
and then along realizing how much the high doses were and my body was just reacting poorly to it is when I came back
to the Center and started treatments here.
Gil Rodriguez: And they gave me a very good regiment, a strict regimen to follow. It included treatments, diet. It was in
Chinese medicine, meditation, all kinds of stuff. So, I was on a keto adapted diet and it required me to eat vegetables,
non-inflammatory foods. So I did follow that regiment very strictly for a long time. I did the alkaline water, so everyday
I was drinking up to, I can’t remember what the count, suppose to be 100 ounces I believe of, I guess your body weight
in half, so yeah about 100 ounces of alkaline water a day. Staying hydrated, staying active. So small walks here and
there, keep my body going.
Gil Rodriguez: I did go through treatments at the Center here for various IV’s like mistletoe and salsinium and different
regiments that they put together. And I also went through the IPT program, which is a type of chemo here. That’s insulin
based, very low-dose but very effective. I also saw another doctor about Chinese medicine to attack my problem with,
what the word...H.pylori is what I was diagnosed with also. I guess H.pylori is linked to cancer. So they started treating
me for H.pylori. Started treating me for autoimmune disorders. Did that, and meditation. Stress-free life, all that stuff.
So, all that combined I feel like just made this perfect cocktail for healing. And I’ve been on that since. I still practice
good eating habits, healthy mind-set, meditation. Try to stick to it and so far so good.
BREAST CANCER- MY BREAST FRIEND DEMONSTRATION
Jonathan Otto: Let me just put the floor over to you. I let my curiosity run wild for a second, and now I just want to get
you to share your thing. What you feel like is, are the steps that you took to get better, and just as clear as you can, so
people can take action on it and, I guess, start from the start.
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Okay. All right. And feel free to interject if you want to ask anything.
So, essential number one is let food be your medicine, and your audience is very familiar with nutrient-dense, clean,
organic food. That’s the bottom line. There’s no anti-cancer diet that’s perfect for everybody, because our bodies are
all different.
I believe that genomic testing is very important, because then it helps you to focus on specific foods that will support
your genetic SNPs.
Essential number two is reduce your toxic exposure. We live in a toxic world. We can’t live in a bubble. But there are
many things you can do to reduce your toxic exposure, and to detox your body properly.
Number three is to balance your energy. We are energetic beings. We are one billionth physical matter; the rest is all
energy. So it’s very important to balance that energetic system with chiropractic care, acupuncture, massage. Sleep is
so vital. Balancing our hormones.
I do want to say that traditional medicine has instilled fear in women when it comes to their hormones, their hormones
are driving the cancer. Let’s reason on that for a minute. If our hormones cause cancer, then everybody on the planet
would have cancer, including men, right? Men have estrogen, too.
So, it’s not our hormones. It’s our body’s ability to methylate or break down those hormones properly. And secondly, it’s
our exposure to all the xenoestrogens on the planet, the plastics, the parabens, environmental chemicals, the metals
in our teeth. All those things are driving excessive estrogen in the body.
If your hormones are imbalanced, you’re estrogen-dominant, you don’t have enough progesterone. That can drive
cancer as well. Your hormones are your friends, ladies. We really need to keep our hormones balanced.
Number four is a very challenging one. It was for me. Essential number four is to heal your emotional wounds. A lot of
women have a hard time going there, simply because we’re so used to being superwomen and caregivers and care-
takers. And we got to have our stuff together, so to speak.
But we don’t take the time to really look at our past, look at our childhood wounds, heal those. We don’t take the time
to nurture ourselves, to love ourselves, forgive ourselves, forgive others. This is a huge part of the healing process, is
to really heal those emotional wounds. Because we know, because of psychoneuroimmunology, that our thoughts
are secreting proteins and neuropeptides that are affecting our immune system and talking to every single cell in our
body. So you have to think those positive thoughts, those good thoughts, and really remove that inner conflict in your
heart and in your soul.
Number five is biological dentistry. What you have in your mouth is affecting your body in several ways. Number one,
chemically, because if you have amalgams, amalgams are 50% mercury, and mercury is the most toxic element on the
planet. It’s a neurotoxin. It’s an immunosuppressive metal.
If you have a root canal, a root canal is a dead tooth, and who wants a dead organ in their body, right? No matter how
aseptic they make it, there’s always a pocket of anaerobic bacteria.
Depending on where the tooth or the amalgam, where the root canal is sitting, our teeth are connected to our organs
through the acupuncture meridian system. So, like in my case, the first time I had a cavitation on the bottom left, that
set on the left breast meridian. Second time, I had root resorption on the top left, which sat on the left breast meridian.
I’ve done bioenergetic testing for many years, and I’ve seen, 97% to 99% of the time, there’s a relationship between
dental issues and breast cancer, or cancer in general.

Number six, we talked about, healing your body with therapeutic plants and herbs, taking advantage of what nature
provides. An evidence-based natural medicine. There’s thousands and thousands of studies that show us, cancer cells
can be killed, and your immune system can be boosted if you take the right combinations of herbs and supplements.
Number seven is practicing very early detection. Traditional, I would say the pink movement, has taught women that
early detection is all about mammograms, but there is so much more to early detection than just getting a mammogram.
Jonathan Otto: Amazing. That’s so fantastic. I want to go into more detail with a bit right now. I’m really curious about
this. Is this your ...?
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: This is called My Breast Friend. My Breast Friend was originally was created by the
MammaCare Foundation. MammaCare Foundation worked with the National Cancer Society, the National Cancer
Institute, to create a live model that feels like a real breast, that has distinct tumors, that are replicas of actual tumors,
breast tumors. And they created this model to teach clinicians on how to find breast lumps in women’s breasts.
This has been the gold standard for teaching doctors for 30 years. And so the manufacturer and the MammaCare
Foundation have asked me to take this to the general market. I made it look pretty so women would like the colors,
and make it look more feminine. And it’s to teach women to learn how to find a lump in their breast.
Women are afraid. We’ve never been taught how to do a proper breast exam, so we don’t feel our breasts. And if we
do, we’re afraid of what we’re looking for.
This teaches you what a lump can feel like, so it empowers you. And even if you get a mammogram or a thermogram
or an ultrasound once a year, or your doctor examines your breasts once a year, there’s still 364 days of the year where
your breast tissue can change. And you have the ability, every month, to notice those changes way ahead of the curve.
Because we know that if the tumor is one centimeter or less, and you find it at that stage, your chances of survival are
88% over 15 years. Versus somebody who is not trained, they find something the size of a ping pong ball, that’s the
average size that they find. It’s much more difficult. You’re dealing with a much more aggressive situation. I’m teaching
women to love your girls, to know your girls, and to check them with My Breast Friend.
Jonathan Otto: Oh, is that love your girls? Your breasts are the girls, right?
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Absolutely, yeah.
Jonathan Otto: Awesome. Your Breast Friend. It’s very catchy. Looking at this model, there are bumps inside of this,
so that ... What’s these little ones? What’s these bigger ones?
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Those are actual replicas of breast tumors that were removed from women’s breasts.
There’s three ways, you have to look at three factors in doing a breast exam.
Number one, you have to learn what to feel for, so this is what it teaches you. What does a suspicious lump feel like?
Because have fibrocystic tissue, we don’t know what’s normal, what’s not. This teaches you.
Secondly, it teaches you how. You don’t just poke in there, you have to use the flats of your fingers and use different
kinds of pressure.
And thirdly, you have to know where to feel. It’s not just the breast tissue, you have to do the collarbone, the armpit,
all the way down, the chest bone. There’s a lot of territory there where tumors can show up. I’ve seen breast tumors
as high as the collarbone, so you really have to be proactive and look at all the tissue.
Jonathan Otto: Amazing. And so then, these are all different cancerous tumors?
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Different-sized lumps and different depths. Some are superficial, some are very deep.
You’ll notice there’s one underneath the nipple, it’s all the way down to the chest wall, which is why you have to use
very deep pressure when you do the training.
Now, the training comes with a little booklet and a 20-minute video, so you actually learn how to do the process.
Jonathan Otto: That’s good.
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: You’d be laying down on your back, and then you would start, with your ... well, you have
this on your left breast, and use your right hand.
And then you would just, light, medium deep, and then move over. Light, medium, deep, light, medium deep.
And you just follow what the video shows you, and you feel what a lump can feel like. And then you do the same on
your breasts. Light, medium, deep.
And it’s just little circles, about the size of a dime. And you just go at different depths. And it’s amazing how accurate
it can be.
Jonathan Otto: But you said you’ve got to be lying down.
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Jonathan Otto: And then you’re pushing downwards again?
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Mm-hmm (affirmative). So, you’re using the flats
Jonathan Otto: Yeah, your flats.
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: The flats of your pads. And then you’re just, in little circles, and you go light, medium deep.
And then you move over. Light, medium deep. Little circles. Light, medium, deep.
And so you wonder, do I have to go that deep? And yes, you do, because tumors can hide underneath the nipple.
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: And so you’ve got to go all the way down to the chest wall.
Jonathan Otto: So what do you say to someone ... just, you can keep it there for a second. What do you say to someone
that says, “Oh, that’s going to hurt.”?
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: It doesn’t hurt, no.
Jonathan Otto: Okay, good. Cool.
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Yeah, there’s no pain. If you’re doing it properly, there’s no pain. You just have to use the
pads of your fingers. Now, you don’t poke around with your fingernails, pads of your fingers. Light, medium and deep.
The beauty of this is that it teaches you what an abnormal lump feels like, because this is what nodular breast tissue,
normal, nodular breast tissue, feels like. But then you notice the difference. Ooh, that’s a hard lump that doesn’t belong
there.
Jonathan Otto: Got it. And it could be benign, right?

Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Yes, yes. The good news is, eight out of 10 lumps that you may find are probably benign.
Always check with your doctor when you find something suspicious. If they poo-poo it and say, “Oh, it’s nothing,” but
your gut is telling you that there’s something, it doesn’t feel right for me, pursue it.
Get more testing, visit another doctor, because I’ve seen that happen, unfortunately. They tell them, “Come back in
three months or six months,” and then the disease is spread.
Listen to your heart, listen to your intuition, and take the next step, so you can find out for sure what it is.
Jonathan Otto: Great. And then, if it is ... but what do you do? Someone’s got a small bump. How do you know if it’s
benign, or if it’s cancerous?
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Well, then you would have to see your doctor and, depending on what kind of diagnostic
tools you want to use ... Some women may choose a mammogram, some women may choose thermogram, ultrasound.
Now those tools in itself don’t diagnose cancer. The only way you can officially diagnosed cancer is with a biopsy. Not
all women want to have biopsies, because we know that breaks the barrier, and that can spill millions of cancer cells
into the system.
John Wayne Cancer Center, that’s a quote from them. They say it breaks the barrier, and it potentially spills millions of
malignant cancer cells into your bloodstream.
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: I personally chose not to have a biopsy, but some women just want to know.
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: There are ... Sorry, I just want to interject too, though.
Jonathan Otto: Yeah, yeah, of course.
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: There are blood tests outside of traditional medicine that can detect cancer at a very,
very early stage.
For example, IvyGene looks at cancer DNA in the blood. You can see if you’re producing cancer cells when it’s at a very,
very minor stage.
There’s another test called the RGCC test, or the Greece test, which measures circulating tumor cells. Again, it can alert
you as to if there’s cancer development.
The Cancer Profile, which measures cancer hormones that are produced.
There’s also a test that’s used at Hope4Cancer, Dr. Tony Jimenez. It’s called PDIS, Photo Dynamic Infrared Spectroscopy.
It’s a little laser that’s inserted, that counts the number of circulating tumor cells in the blood, live.
You start off with an IV that sensitizes the cancer cells, and then you have the little laser, and it counts the number of
circulating tumor cells. And if they find some, then they can zap them with the red laser.
It’s very, very fascinating. Things have progressed tremendously.
Jonathan Otto: So it’s diagnostic and treatment.
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Yes, at the same time.
Jonathan Otto: I’ve actually seen it used; I believe. But it’s not in many places, right?
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: No. You can go to Germany, but he has it in his Tijuana and Cancun clinics. Very state-of-
the-art technology. I did it, and zero, so that was another confirmation for me.
Jonathan Otto: As in ... so then it was a confirmation that you’d beaten your cancer?
Jonathan Otto: So you didn’t actually use it as a treatment. You used as a diagnostic.
Dr. Veronique Desaulniers: Correct. Correct. Yeah, along with ultrasound and all the other blood work.
CANCER — METABOLISM
Travis Christofferson: Details. I was always interested in biochemistry. That’s been my thing since I was a kid, just
understanding how the body works. That was my undergrad degree. In graduate school, I was working on a cancer
theory class. I was delving into what cancer is from the perspective of the traditional textbooks, which lays out this
genetic theory of cancer ... That it’s caused by the mutation to key oncogenes that are involved in the cell cycle, that
sort of rewire the cellular circuitry towards uncontrolled growth. This has been the dogmatic theory of cancer since
the mid 70s. It’s irrefutable. It’s in the textbooks ... We all know this is the truth.
I stumbled on this book by Tom Seyfried, called Cancer as a Metabolic Disease, which laid out this wonderfully elegant
alternative theory for cancer. Just packed full of evidence that I didn’t know existed. A hundred year old evidence all
the way to today, that laid out this alternative theory that cancer is not an exclusively genetic disease, but it’s a disease
of altered metabolism. Just that ... Completely moonshot between the eyes discovery that cancer had this alternative
theory that was viable. What sent me off on this intense curiosity.
I went out and talked to Tom, and he was gracious enough to see me. I had this list of questions. I spent the day with
him. That just fueled my curiosity more. Tom had written the book Cancer as a Metabolic Disease, so the science book
was there. But what wasn’t there was this beautiful story about this goes all the way back to a German scientist, Otto
Warburg. There was this rich narrative of this historical thread that I wanted to tell, so that anybody could understand
and it was a story of scientific redemption. Warburg was cast aside as this quack, almost. He was a stellar scientist,
but this was a scar on his career. Everybody thought this theory that cancer was metabolic was just silly by the time
he died in 1970.
Really, Tom revived this theory in about 2012 with his book. It was already stumbling. The Cancer Genome Atlas Project,
which was this huge governmental effort to sequence the genes of cancer cells, had already shown that there was this
extreme heterogeneity in the cancer cell. It’s very difficult to find a consistent signature of mutations from one cancer
type to the next, which is supposed to define the genetic theory of cancer. It was already on the ropes, and most people
didn’t know that, but then Tom came along and presented this alternative theory. Now, it’s only been a few short years
since his book, but cancer metabolism along with immunotherapy is the hot topic for sure. There was a New York Times
article in May of last year that talked about Warburg. And the New York Times — as you know — will not doing any-
thing remotely non-traditional. They like to be something that’s invoked at the moment. It’s made a striking come back.

CANCER
Liana Werner-Gray: So, I remembered what I learned from the indigenous people. Okay, I need to go back to nature,
go back to my roots, and actually apply everything that I learned, get foods that actually have nutrition and are going to
heal my body. So, that’s what I did. So, I started a blog. I called it the Earth Diet, and I said for 365 days, I’m only going
to eat foods that come straight from the earth. So, my whole concept was every time I had a craving, I would think,
okay, how can I fulfill this craving, but in the most natural, wholesome way possible.
So, I got into the kitchen, and I started fulfilling all of my cravings, but using really natural, wholesome healing foods
and ingredients. So, now, I specialize in helping people break addictions, especially addiction to sugar, junk food, and
also that emotional eating, binge eating, over-eating. So, yeah.
Yes, it was a 3.7 centimeter tumor in my lymphatic system, so very early stages of cancer. Well, in three months, the
tumor was completely dissolved, completely gone. Because, it was huge, bulging out of my neck. I could feel it every
day, and you could see it. It was very clear. So, after three months of changing my diet and cutting out what I call the
four usual suspects.
I cut out gluten, refined sugar, dairy, and anything genetically modified, any preservatives, fillers, additives, all that crazy
stuff. So, I cut those four things out, and then found replacements for all the foods I was craving. Then, I also started
juicing. I was juicing up to six times a day. Then, I was drinking bentonite clay. In a nutshell, that was the protocol that I
followed, and after three months, the tumor completely drained out of my system. I’ve been healthy ever since, so no
cancer. Yeah, it’s been ten years later.
CANCER: REVERSING LYMPHOCYTIC LEUKEMIA
Dr. Pam Popper: Another story that I want to share because this is really close to my heart. I have a little tiny place
up in Port Clinton, Ohio. It’s a little beach town. This is a hopeful story because of the person involved and also what
happened afterwards which is just remarkable. There are 5,000 permanent residents at Port Clinton, Ohio, then in
summer time, all the summer dwellers come and spend weekends there and it’s 55,000. There’s this little place called
“Rudder’s Café.” I can walk to it from my place and I hung out there a lot. Before there was internet on Catawba Island,
I used to go there for internet. You know, not everybody can have it, I can stay home more but ... anyway, the owner
of the café developed chronic lymphocytic leukemia. One of the things I love about Catawba Island is that it is sort of
a classless society. I mean you’re overdressed if you’re wearing shoes in some places, you know, but nobody knows
what anybody does.
A friend, a mutual friend, said, “We ought to talk to Pam.” Okay, said, “About what?” He said, “Your cancer.” She said,
“Pam? The one who sits up in the corner there in a t-shirt and shorts and reads?” “Yup, that’s her. She would know
something that could help you.” Anyway, she talked to me, we had her read some of my materials, we put her on a
plant-based diet. Her doctors at the Cleveland Clinic were not very happy about this, but they did watch as the chronic
lymphocytic leukemia just went away. This happened in 2003 or ‘04, I think it was, and here we are 15 years later and
as of the end of the season last year, still in remission.
Here’s the great part of the story in addition to the obviously a person who I think we helped save her life. It’s a pretty
small town, Port Clinton, and so what’s happened because of that, first of all Rudder’s Café serves a lot of plant-based
food. I’ve said on more than occasion, “I’m so sorry this cancer thing happened but I love this place, I could eat a lot of
stuff here now.” The market has expanded for the plant-based food and everybody eats the stuff. People eat the vegan
stuff not because they’re sick but because it tastes good.
The word has spread about this to the place where all of the restaurants in Port Clinton and on Catawba Island have
plant-based options. It really influenced an entire little community. That’s what can happen. You can heal yourself and
then you can become a point of influence in your area which is a beautiful thing too. Those are some of my favorite
stories.
ESSENTIAL OILS AND ANEMIA: JANET — PERSONAL TESTIMONY
Jonathan Otto: So Janet, tell me about the effect of oils on your son. Like what happened? What was that experience?
How old is your son by the way?
Janet: He is 27 now, but about six years ago he quit producing his own white blood cells and platelets and needed a
bone marrow transplant to fix that. It was not cancerous, but it is what it is. And it’s called aplastic anemia.
And he left the hospital understanding there was nothing that would help him with his white blood cell count. But we
know citruses do, so we did some research. Lemon oil in particular does. And he took it regularly and it helped him
extend the amount of time between transfusions, which he had to get frequently for several years. And then one day
his counts, he had to go get his blood tested every two weeks, his counts dropped by 10 points and he was starting
to get the red dots on his skin, which is petechiae, I believe it’s called. So that’s where you could start hemorrhaging
internally. And I was just so frustrated. I said, “I can’t believe that lemon just quit working overnight.” And he goes, “Oh.
I forgot to tell you. I ran out of it.” So then we got him another bottle right away, and again his blood was tested two
weeks later and it was right back up to where it stayed. I wish I had more details, but that was amazing.
Jonathan Otto: That’s awesome. So his blood cell count, white blood cell count, went down when he was not taking
the lemon oil. But when he was taking the oil, it was-
Janet: Yeah. He basically had no immune system and he couldn’t reproduce his own blood, so he had to get transfu-
sions all the time. But as a result, you have no ability to fight off infection when your white blood cell count is low. So
it kept him ... He actually never got sick. I probably got more colds than he did during those three years. He was doing
other things with the oils and such, but it was an excellent bridge for him to have some sort of immune support. Yeah.
CHLORELLA: SKIN, ALTITUDE AND WEIGHT LOSS
Dr. Sruti Lam: Chlorella also has been found to be anti-cancerous, because of the antioxidants that it has. The high
amount of phytonutrients in chlorella, the chlorophyll in chlorella actually improves and enhances cell oxidation. That’s
why it is a great antioxidant and has been used for adjunct cancer therapy as well.
So these are a few benefits of chlorella. Don’t forget to do chlorella on a daily basis. You can do it as a powder form, as
a capsule form, as a tea form. You can sweeten it up with agave or stevia and enjoy chlorella on a daily basis.
Gil Rodriguez: The hardest thing about trying to heal yourself naturally is learning how to eat properly, and mainly
because my lifestyle before was totally crazy, totally radical. I mean, I drank, I smoked, I worked too many hours, I ate
fast food because you never have time to stop, I’m always go go go. So learning how to stop and take care of yourself
was quite the learning curve. So learning how to cook was definitely something that was hard and it took me awhile
to understand and learn. And learning how to use things like, you know, ginger root or shop for organic vegetables, or
how to prep them and use turmeric or different alternatives, substitutes, is just like a whole other world.

So, I had to learn how to use those types of things, and grind ginger, and cook fresh. And now that I’ve done it for so
long I can’t go to like a Chili’s or something like that because I can smell it. My palates are so clean now and my nose
sensors are so clear I can smell like how they prep it, and it just smells terrible now to me. Like I can’t eat anything that
I don’t make anymore, almost.
And I started doing a lot of meditation, you know taking time for myself. Understanding that I can’t control everything
that happens. Even the cancer...I got it. I can’t control it, I have to learn how to get rid of it, you know, maintain it, keep
it down. Learning how to not sweat the little things because stress is a huge part of a lot of illnesses. It causes things to
inflame, it causes you mental stress, it causes you to all kinds of stuff. And I was definitely the stressful kind of person
before, so learning how to be stress-free again or for the first time, that was something I had to do almost immediately.
MOLD — CANCER: PEGGY’S ANALYSIS
Dr. Daryl Gioffre: Peggy, I think you’re doing amazingly well and you’ve just got to do a couple different things now
that’s going to improve what we’re seeing here. I can tell that you’ve taken yourself out of that degenerative, inflam-
matory state and you’ve healed from your breast cancer so congratulations. That’s amazing. You continue to work.
Remember it’s all about progress. You keep on working, you keep on salting that nod making it tighter, and we tweak
as we go along. We can always improve the health of the body. All of us, myself included. Keep on doing what you’re
doing because it’s working.
Now what we’re going to do is we’re taking what we found in the blood here and we’re going to make that a little bit
tighter, we’re going to add some things in, and remove some things from the body. As far as detoxifying, we’ll probably
have you do either my two day detox or my seven day alkaline cleanse, just to kind of kick start and restart the body’s
metabolism. I think you’re going to be doing great in a few months. You already are. It’s going to take it from good to
an entirely better level.
Peggy: I so appreciate those insights. It’s just so amazing to have those insights and see it in actual live time to see how
one thing is impacting the other. It’s amazing.
CANCER, MAMMOGRAMS & HEART DISEASE
Dr. Pam Popper: Sometimes people say, “Oh I’m not very experienced at this informed decision making. I don’t really
have anything wrong with me right now so it’s not like I’m trying to go into my doctor’s office and get off drugs,” but
what should be going on in a doctor’s office? If I just go see my OB-GYN or if I see my family practice doctor, what
should happen? I think the first thing is that anything that the doctor wants to do to you, you should ask why, and then
ask for outcomes data.
Let’s talk about ... let me give and example. You go to your OB-GYN and person says, “You’re 40 years old, you should
have a mammogram.” “Okay, why should I have a mammogram?” Well, because it detects breast cancer early and if we
catch it early, then we can treat it so that it doesn’t turn into aggressive cancer.” Well it sounds really good, doesn’t it?
But you’re not going to fall for that because you want more information on that, so you want to say, “Well I would like
to see some data showing that women who have mammograms actually have a reduced risk of dying of breast cancer.”
If your doctor won’t provide that information to you, that speaks volumes. Because again, using my analogy with cars,
if you asked to see the warranty on a car and a car salesman says, “We don’t show people the warranty. Just buy the
car,” you would get up and walk out. But in this case, it’s perfectly acceptable for a doctor to not put any information
in front of you and ask you to make a decision. But you won’t let that happen, so you say, “I would consider the mam-
mogram but I would like for you to provide me with data showing that mammography is effective for reducing the risk
of breast cancer.”
What you would find out, if you asked for that information, is that mammography is really, really good at detecting
small abnormalities like ductal carcinoma and lobular carcinoma which are not cancer but are risk factors for cancer.
What it doesn’t catch is interval cancers, which grow in between mammographic screenings. They’re the aggressive
ones that can actually kill you.
CANCER SURVIVOR: PERSONAL TESTIMONIAL
Arlene Begun: So for me what I did, I did the low-dose chemo. I thought at the time it was needed for my situation.
Other people, they don’t need the low-dose chemo. I did mistletoe. I did a little bit of salicinium. I’m doing Vitamin C
IV’s. Sound machines, hypothermia, hyperbaric oxygen chamber, and machine. So it’s a little bit of everything because
with cancer, you need to attack all the angles. I mean, you have to do a little bit of everything and see what works, what
doesn’t, you know. But it’s testing, you have to try a little bit of everything.
Jonathan Otto: Mm-hmm (affirmative). And so, was it your determination and your empowerment to be well some-
thing that played a role in actually making you well, is that a thing?
Arlene Begun: I think yes. I think the emotional healing is 50% of everything. And they have that support here too.
Amazing support. And sometimes, we carry things that we don’t know we carry inside of us. Inside our heart, inside of
our mind. And sometimes all those emotions, they suppress and your body doesn’t know how to heal with it. And it
can end up being disease, cancer, for anyone. I didn’t know that at that time, I heard that here. And I heal here. They
give me the tools to heal.
This is hydration and mistletoe. Mistletoe is the therapy that we do every day to boost your immune system and also
kills cancer. It’s been very effective in Europe, they’re being used here in the clinic, and it’s amazing. And I’m in the
finish line of my treatment, but it doesn’t end here. It’s a lifetime, it’s a commitment for life. So once I finish in the clinic,
back at home, I still have to eat well, rest enough to exercise, and take care of myself and take the right supplements
and do the check ups regularly.
CANCER, MAMMOGRAMS & HEART DISEASE
Dr. Pam Popper: I’m going to share with you something I heard on the radio one day. It was just horrifying but it’s
indicative of what’s going on. I got into my car to go to the office and I turned on the radio, and it was in the middle of
the news program and I can’t even really tell you what the news program was, but the woman who was being inter-
viewed was heading the Race for the Cure in Central Park in Manhattan the next day. Of course, they’re trying to get
everybody to come out for the Race for the Cure.
The news anchor says, “Tell us your story.” She said, “Well, I had mammograms regularly and in February of last year,
I had a mammogram and was told I was fine. Then in September, I noticed a palpable lump and I went to my doctor. I
had Stage 3 breast cancer. I had surgery and chemotherapy and radiation and now I’m fine.”
The interview goes on about the event next day in Central Park and all that sort of thing, and at the end, the anchor says,
“Well what advice would you give to women?” She goes, “Well you know how we can be. We don’t take care of ourselves,
we worry about everybody else first, so get that mammogram.” I thought, I was ready to scream into the radio. You
had mammograms; mammograms missed the cancer; you found it on your own seven months later. So the message

should have been, mammography doesn’t work. Take care of yourself. Stop eating dairy, eat more vegetables, lose
weight. That’s what it should have been. Mammography screening did not prevent me from developing Stage 3 cancer.
So my point is this. The data show that mammograms, for every ... you have to have 2,000 women get a mammogram
every year for 10 years to prevent one death from cancer. In the process of doing that, you are going to diagnose and
treat as many as 10 women who don’t have cancer as if they have cancer.
And here’s something that never shows up in the data. A lot of times, people die from cancer treatment, so here’s what
happens. All of the women who have lobular carcinoma in situ and ductal carcinoma in situ will live five years because
they don’t really have cancer. Even after you do all this stuff to them, they don’t have cancer and they’re going to live.
So it skews the data and it makes the cancer industry look like it’s doing much better than it really is. 10 years after the
incident, the woman dies of heart disease. Why did the women develop heart disease? From the radiation. You can die
from radiation treatment for cancer you didn’t have before your natural life span.
So how’s this — you’re not sick, you get treated as if you’re sick, and then you die from the treatment that you got for
not being sick. This is what happens when you don’t ask questions. If women looked at the data and saw that for every
woman who you saved, you’re going to hurt someplace between 3 and 10 depending on which study you look at, they
wouldn’t be so geeked up about mammography.
CANCER SURVIVOR, FRAN DRESHER: PERSONAL TESTIMONY
Jonathan Otto: That’s beautiful. Did you feel by any means that when you decided to sort of make that change into
diving into just invest in yourself to this sort of health topic, do you feel you were risking your career?
Fran Drescher: No. No. I think that I leveraged my career for the greater good. And I think that people kind of respect
that about me. A lot of people get sick and they don’t turn it in to a cottage industry or a life mission but I have done
that and I think that, and I kind of recommend this to anyone, turning pain into purpose is very healing and helps to
make sense out of the senseless. So for me, it just helps to justify why I got cancer and why I had to get a hysterectomy
and was unable to have children as a result of that but I’m helping people and that gives my life a purpose that it might
not have otherwise had. So, you have to play the hand that’s been dealt you and play it as courageously and elegantly
as you possibly can. When people get stuck and bitter in what was supposed to be, at some point, they have to make
a choice. Either they’re going to remain looking back or just move forward and I chose to move forward.
So this is... it isn’t what I thought my life was going to be but it is, most certainly, what it is. And I’m grateful. I mean,
there’s been a tremendous amount of growth and silver linings and I speak about it openly. I’ve written two New York
Times best sellers and I wrote about the cancer. I wrote about being a victim of a violent crime. I wrote about my dog
dying and you know, different people ask me to sign different chapters. So I think that when you live authentically and
you go to the mat on behalf of things that matter to most people, you’re never dissed for it. You’re always supported,
I think. At least that’s been my experience.
HOST — JONATHAN OTTO: HEALING
Jonathan Otto: It is so incredible to learn how natural healing methods are working for so many people and how it
makes sense when we understand the body as a whole system. A natural detox followed by a diet rich in vitamins,
supplements and nutrients from herbs and plant based foods can help us avoid and reverse harmful conditions and
diseases.
Chronic illness is most prevalent in the United States. Does it make any sense that we are the most overly medicated
population in the world yet we are still the least healthy? When we examine other areas of the world such as central
Africa, Northern Mexico, and China, where diets are highly comprised of simple fresh produce, studies show that ill-
nesses such as obesity, Type 2 diabetes, Heart disease and hypertension are virtually non existent.
We have to address the toxic food epidemic in this country. We must act now to make lifestyle changes and implement
a new mentality towards the contents in our kitchens...otherwise the next generation, our children, will learn our mis-
takes and follow in our footsteps.
You won’t want to miss a minute of these incredible doctor recommendations to improve your health, change your
life and keep it that way.
HEART DISEASE & PLANT-BASED DIET
Dr. Pam Popper: If you have heart disease, really good news about this. I have a friend who some of you might have
heard of, Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn at Cleveland Clinic, who has a 32-year history now of taking people, many of whom
were told they had terminal cardiovascular disease and helping to live very long lives without any further cardiovascular
events. In fact, his initial group of people in 1985, there were 24 patients. Five of them were told they wouldn’t live until
the end of 1985, who were placed on his diet. The first one didn’t die until 2016. That’s a pretty ... that’s living past your
due date in a major way, right? The other four are still alive today and it’s 2019 when I’m doing this film.
He’s been keeping track of his patients for 32 years and he’s never had a compliant patient die of cardiovascular disease.
A lot of the folks who have come to see him have had multiple heart attacks, they’ve got multiple stents, they’ve been
taking multiple drugs and events, and they lived happy, full lives by eating a very low fat, plant-based diet.
If you’re not in that shape, you don’t have to do something quite as extreme but I think you do have to adopt a low
fat, plant-based diet and change your habits in significant ways. Cardiovascular disease responds really well to dietary
change.
How important is it to eat healthy? I don’t see people getting better unless they change the food. Again, you put a ton
of food through your body every day ... every year, rather. You put a ton of food through your body every year and it’s
just impossible to think that it wouldn’t make a difference. It makes a huge difference. I saw this myself. I don’t usually
share a lot about my personal story anymore because a lot of people know it, but I changed my diet when I was 38. I
thankfully had not been diagnosed with anything. I was just fat. I was fat. I look back at pictures of myself ... I used to
say I was big boned because that sounded better but I was really fat. I was tired all the time and I didn’t look so good
and my hair was kind of stringy. Seriously, some pictures of me back then, I looked older than I do now.
HEART DISEASE — DETOX
Dr. Elena Villanueva: I have hundreds of case studies for you for all of the factors affecting that: blood sugar, inflam-
mation, lipids, and some of the other co-factors that go with that. Detox 30 days, you make a huge, huge change in
there in their lab.
I think this content is crucial to brain health. We have to educate people on this because if we don’t work on all of the
systems of the body, we’re never going to be able to balance the organ of the brain. We have to work on all of the body’s
systems in order to get the brain chemistry balanced out. It’s crucial. If we don’t do it, we’re never going to get results.
Jonathan Otto: Yeah I’m so glad to hear you say that because that’s where a lot of functional medicine in my opinion
and holistic medicine has fallen into substituting drugs for supplements.

PINEAPPLE, CARDIOVASCULAR HEALTH
Dr. Sruti Lam: One, pineapple is great for cardiovascular health. It is very high in potassium so it actually modulates
your blood pressure. Modulating your blood pressure, helping your kidneys, helping as a diuretic and so it actually
decreases your blood pressure in your body.
Second thing about pineapple is full of Vitamin C so it’s excellent to boost your immune system. One serving of pine-
apple per day gives you the recommended daily intake of Vitamin C required for that day. Pineapple is also great for
fiber. The amount of fiber in pineapple actually helps with your digestive system because of a very important enzyme
that pineapple has, it’s called bromelain.
Pineapple is, again because of the bromelain has, it’s proinflammatory so can be used for cardiovascular health, diges-
tive health, urinary tract infections and reproductive health as well. Pineapple balances out your hormones, especially
your testosterone, estrogen, and it’s great fruit to actually help conceive during infertility. So in conclusion, pineapple,
again, another yellow fruit is great with Vitamin A, has a lot of beta carotenoids helps with eye health and skin health
and the fiber content of pineapple really helps with constipation and it helps with just moving your bowels properly.
MUSHROOMS & CANCER
Ocean Robbins: One of my favorite medicines medicinal plants in the world is mushrooms. Fungi are truly extraor-
dinary. We hear about magic mushrooms but mushrooms are kind of magic and not just because they change our
consciousness with certain chemicals in certain forms. Button mushrooms, shiitake mushrooms, there are a lot of
mushrooms you can eat from the regular grocery store turn out to have incredible healing powers. For example, there
was a study done by researchers at the University of Perth in Western Australia. They studied 2000 women for a decade.
Half of them had previously had breast cancer. Half of them had not.
They looked at what they ate, how they lived, whether they smoked, and all kinds of different factors. They separated
out those factors so they could just get a clear sense of how diet impacted their lifestyle and their health outcomes and
what they found was that those women who ate mushrooms daily like the equivalent of about a button mushroom a
day had a 64% drop in their risk of dying of breast cancer 64%. When those same women also drank green tea daily
they had an 89 per cent drop in their breast cancer risk or risk of dying from breast cancer. 89%.
Now, can you imagine if some new drug came out they could slash breast cancer by 64% or 89%? Can you imagine the
amount of marketing that will go into pushing it? We have governments all over the world say to everybody we’ve got
to genetically engineer this into our water supply or something, but we’ve got mushrooms and green tea right here
at our fingertips. No one can patent them but they’re available to all of us and they’re accessible and they have side
benefits like they help fight cancer but not just breast cancer or other forms of cancer they help fight heart disease.
They are even good for your brain health. So this is the kind of wonderful thing that I think Mother Nature gives us is
foods that actually don’t just top one condition they help a whole bunch of them because it’s good for your body and
one place is probably good for your body in another place.
OMEGA-3
Dr. Joel Kahn: There’s others out there that can be used. I will say, it’s not an herb, but I’ve got to give a shout out to
foods that are rich in Omega-3. Whether we’re talking brain health, we’re talking women and palpitations and general
GI health. I love ground flax seed. Again, when I grew up, nobody sprinkles ground flaxseed or whole flaxseed on my
cereal, on my salads. There were probably people back then that were buying whole flax seeds and grinding them
and using them, but the role of Omega-3, a nutrient class of Omega-3 fatty acids to support healthy brain, to support
healthy cholesterol, healthy inflammation, healthy joints, healthy breast health, healthy prostate health in men, is huge,
solid medical data.
The question is, where are you going to get it if we don’t make Omega-3, because we don’t? The answer is, we’ve either
got to eat from the marine world like fish, which I can tell you anecdotally, in my patients that eat a lot of fish, not
my recommendation, but they do, their mercury levels high because I check it. It’s a sad but true part of the culture
of Western world that our waters are contaminated. These are people that have the means, that are eating at good
restaurants and buying at good fish stores, they still have mercury.
That’s an option to have salmon, sardines, and herring to get your Omega-3. You can have algae, and that’s my favorite.
Whether it’s coming out of chlorella and spirulina powders or capsules, very clean source, very rich in Omega-3. I really
love flax seed, ground flax seed, organic ground flax seed. Couple tablespoons a day will gradually raise their blood
level of Omega-3. It’s a test you can actually ask your doctor to run. “Hey, can you check my Omega-3 blood level?”
It’s very good for prostate and cancer health. It’s got a lot stuff called lignans in it that promote that. A lot of fiber, good
for the GI tract. Feed those health bacteria to make all their healthy little short chain fatty acids. I’m a big fan. In fact,
I probably have more boxes of ground flaxseed in little packets for my patients to take them and try them than any
heart specialist in the United States.
You can add in hemp hearts, I love overnight chia pudding as a way to get a large dose of Omega-3 through chia seeds.
You can throw them on a salad too, they just leave little black dots in your teeth, so you’ve got to be a little careful
about that afterwards.
Walnuts. Walnuts are really the only nut super rich in Omega-3, so you want to go to the natural world in that. I just
wanted to indicate what an important nutrient, brain health, women’s health, cardiovascular health. Again, usually the
topic overlaps because what’s good for one organ is good for all and that’s what we often call integrated medicine or
functional medicine. It’s just a network. We’re not an organ, I’m not a heart doctor, I happen to be a doctor who uses
the whole body, but when I focus on therapies for the heart, it usually benefits for everywhere else.
CANCER
Liana Werner-Gray: Yes. Well, in researching for my new book for cancer, I wanted to research the number one food
on earth that was the most powerful in killing cancer cells. So I researched for a long time. I mean, I’ve been doing this
now years and years, but I really wanted to make sure I read all the science studies that were on all the different foods.
And it was fascinating what I found, and you might be able to guess what I’m about to say. But the number one food
on planet earth that kills cancer cells, that’s been proven again and again in science studies with humans and with
mice is sulforaphane, which we get in broccoli sprouts. So in my book, the number one cancer killing food is broccoli
sprouts, because they have so much sulforaphane. And so the studies that they’ve done on mice, they injected them
with tumors and then they gave half of them sulforaphane and the other half naught. Every single mouse that had
sulforaphane injected, all their tumors reduced, all of them.
Fascinating. Every single tumor went down. Some completely got rid of all their tumors, but every single tumor went
down. If someone is just getting diagnosed with cancer, I would say definitely want to get on that eating broccoli sprouts,
juicing broccoli sprouts, taking broccoli sprout supplements and just getting that sulforaphane into the system, because
it legit goes in like a bomb and kills the cancer cell. Amazing. The second cancer killing food is turmeric. There was a
lot of studies done on turmeric. A lot of people know about turmeric, but that’s really great for going in, killing cancer
cells, reducing inflammation. These foods really help to create new cells.

MUSHROOMS & CANCER
Ocean Robbins: The researchers at the University of Perth actually looked at the difference between cooked mush-
rooms and dried mushrooms and different forms and here’s what they found. They found that the 64% drop in risk
of breast cancer death for the women who ate mushrooms daily. That was when they were eating cooked whole
mushrooms when they dried mushrooms like from a powder or something. Then they still got a benefit but not quite
as much. They had a 50% drop in risk of breast cancer death over the course of the study. So apparently it’s beneficial
but apparently whole mushrooms that haven’t been tried first are a little bit more beneficial. Now some people eat
raw mushrooms.
I’m not a fan of that because they actually contain some toxins that can be detrimental when they’re not cooked. So
in general I think cooking is the way to go with mushrooms specifically in general raw foods can be wonderful but
mushrooms are one place where it makes sense to cook them the mushrooms. In this study were all different types.
They didn’t separate out and so we could presume that a lot of them were regular button mushrooms or some of the
cheaper ones you know not these fancy $30 a pound, $50 a pound medicinal mushrooms. Now some of the some of
the more expensive mushrooms that you can see on the market do have some unique exceptional medicinal properties.
But again the study that I was just describing was done with all types. And so you can get benefit from regular old
button mushrooms or romines or you can go to oysters or stockings or you can get some of the more fancy ones that
court SEPs if you want to. They all have interesting and varied nutritional profiles and medicinal properties. And I think
there is benefit to almost all of the healthy nourishing mushrooms that we see out there.
THYROID — HASHIMOTO’S
Dr. Joel Kahn: Very often, one of the goals in a heart patient, in general, is some sort of blood thinning. Aspirin, of
course, is a blood thinner. There’s been great concern lately that we’ve a bit underestimated the balance between the
benefit and the risk of bleeding, for the general public, not for the serious heart patient, by taking an aspirin. Serious
heart patients probably need to keep taking an aspirin if their heart doctor told them to.
We’ve underestimated that. There are some prescription blood thinners. It turns out that if you take soybeans and
you prepare a traditional Chinese dish called Natto, that there’s an enzyme released in the broth called Nattokinase.
You can purify Nattokinase and you can put it in a capsule. You can also eat the finished food. The finished food called
Natto is going to be available in Chinese stores and sushi restaurants, excuse me, Japanese stores, sushi restaurants.
Be very rich in a Vitamin Called Vitamin K2 and rich in this enzyme called Nattokinase. You can, after discussing it with
your treatment team, you can take a supplement called Nattokinase. What does Nattokinase do? It lowers cholesterol.
That’s great. It lowers blood pressure. That’s amazing. It lowers blood clotting and it’s known how it lowers blood clot-
ting, which is very cool, except if you’re on other blood thinners, you might want to be cautious about mixing a whole
bunch of them together.Recently, Nattokinase has been shown to reduce actually plaque in arteries, to actually help
reverse the process. I’ve become a big fan of Nattokinase, soybean-based blood thinner enzyme.
OMEGA-3
Dr. Sruti Lam: There are four types of Omega-3 fatty acids. The ones that we can talk about are ALA, which is alpha-lin-
olenic acid, EPA, ETA and DHA.
ALA is the only thing that is found in plant sources, so found in greens, in nuts, and seeds, especially flax seeds, chia
seeds, all of them have the ALA component of the Omega-3 fatty acids.
EPA, ETA, and DHA are found in oily fish, krill, roe, mussels. All of those have more of the EPA, ETA, and DHA substances.
Omega-3 is really, if you’re not a vegetarian, available in a lot of fish oils. That is how it is marketed as.
What is the use of Omega-3 fatty acids? Omega-3 fatty acids have been found to lower inflammation in your body.
There was a study done with Omega-3 fatty acids with NSAIDs. They were equal in competency in having an efficacy
for results shown in 122 people. That it decreases inflammation, any kind of pain, whether it be joint pain, abdominal
pain, muscle pain that you have. Omega-3 fatty acids have been shown to decrease inflammation in the body.
It is also used to lower cholesterol. The FDA has actually approved Omega-3 fatty acids for decreasing triglycerides in
the body. By decreasing triglycerides, you can decrease your bad cholesterol, and that will actually help in having a
healthier heart and healthier blood vessels.
CHLORELLA — DETOX — AUTOIMMUNE — SUPPLEMENTS
Jonathan Otto: All right. I guess so. When it comes to relieving joint pain, quieting down inflammation, there’s some
herbs that people can use to feel better and to save expensive invasive surgeries.
Dr. John Dempster: Absolutely.
Jonathan Otto: All the types of autoimmune responses that are going to happen when we have inflammation. Swelling,
water build-up, and water retention, these types of things. What can we use to help combat some of these major in-
flammatory issues and joint pain related issues and even autoimmune responses in the body when it comes to the
herbal kingdom?
Dr. John Dempster: There’s some great formulas out there right now. They’re combining some very key nutrients that
are going to be huge. Not only from an anti-inflammatory perspective, but also from a joint restorative perspective.
From an anti-inflammatory, anything with MSM or corsiton, or turmeric. Those are some of the favorites to start. But
then you can combine that with something like glucosamine or chondroitin. Those are some great materials that your
body will start to use to repair damaged or inflamed joint. They’re just powerful when they’re combined together.
That’s how food is meant to deliver things that are in compounds. All mixed together. If we can bring formulas together,
if we’re ever going to use a supplement to supplement a proper diet, we want to make sure that their compounded
properly and blended really nicely.
Jonathan Otto: Fantastic. Do you think that ... Is boswellia helpful with that equation?
Dr. John Dempster: Yeah, yeah, I do. Yeah.
Jonathan Otto: Yeah. Frankincense?
Dr. John Dempster: Yeah. Frankincense is another beauty.
Jonathan Otto: Right. The frankincense can help with ... You’ve seen it help for people that are having really ... For
their body with inflammation?
Dr. John Dempster: Absolutely. Yeah. I use it a lot. I love it.
Ginseng and Heart Health
Dr. Sruti Lam: Another interesting thing about ginseng is the cardiovascular system. Ginseng has antioxidants in it
which actually help release and break down the plaque in the vessels, so it actually helps decrease atherosclerosis.

It also helps in decreasing blood pressure, so when you have high blood pressure, or you have a lot of plaque in your
vessels that is actually decreasing your heart to function properly. Ginseng is an herb that you can use that has dual
action.
PEPPERS
Ocean Robbins: Cayenne pepper the very substances that make it hot which I know isn’t for everybody but for those
of us who can enjoy a little bit of heat. Know that that heat is actually stimulating your digestive tract and it’s actually
nourishing your cells with some fabulous antioxidants that are really good for you. So cayenne peppers and all of the
peppers the spicy ones chili peppers as well have some incredible nutrients. I’m a huge fan of spice and I think that
one of the steps we can all take is to clear out our spice cabinets. Take a look at what’s in there if you’ve got stuff that’s
20 years old. That’s probably not. Not so good anymore. Get rid of it. So you’ve got some fresh spices and then make
sure you will start.See if you can try some new spice mixes and add them to your foods and see how your culinary
life expands spices can be so good not just for your help but also for your pleasure for your sensory blindness and
experience. And some people are actually enjoying mixing it up a little bit. So we’re adding some savory spices too to
sweet dishes for example people are adding you know they’re combining chili with chocolate and then some people
are also adding some of the sweet spices like cinnamon or nutmeg or allspice to more savory dishes like pasta sauce
or lasagna. It’s fascinating how you can mix these things up and get some new culinary experiences that are delicious
and so nutritious.
DR. PAM POPPER’S DAD: PERSONAL TESTIMONY
Dr. Pam Popper: By the way, back to my dad, 89. He was on a lot of drugs 12 years ago, and had seen my friend, Dr.
Esselstyn speak and said, “I want to be like that,” and got off all of his drugs. It’s never too late to get better. You’ll be
amazed at how much you might prolong your life but most important your quality of life. Older people have a terrible
quality of life in Westernized countries and the reason is because they don’t take care of themselves and then they
don’t get to live until they die. So what I want to tell people if you want to live long and die short. Okay? Best thing is if
you could just go to sleep one night, not get up the next morning. I have a grandfather that died that way. Very hard on
the people who are left behind but my grandfather went to work, he was working for my uncle when this happened.
He went to work, he went home, did all the things he usually did, went to bed, just didn’t get up the next morning, at
94. That’s the way you want to go.
CLOSE
Jonathan Otto: We have heard from incredible, renowned doctors and shared in the real life success stories of so
many who were once suffering and are now free of pain. They have broken the chains of prescription drugs and their
side effects and are living their lives, feeling better than they have been in years. There is no question that diet plays
such a crucial part in our health and that by detoxifying our bodies to allow proper absorption of the right nutrients,
Vitamins, and supplements along with positive lifestyle approaches we can maintain great health, ward off disease,
reduce inflammation, and increase longevity for ourselves and our loved ones. Please share and discuss what you have
learned in these episodes with those you care for. Help us spread the word and our mission for a healthier happier
future.Dr. Joel Kahn: Well, what’s that going to be? It’s going to be fruits and vegetables, brightly colored, as fresh as
possible, organic if possible. So just beautiful how you can protect your brain from oxidative stress, protect your heart
from oxidative stress, protect your pancreas making insulin, and your muscle tissues that have to take up the glucose
from dysfunction by this great ability to control the mechanisms inside ourselves by using whole food plant based,
brightly colored, fresh fruits and vegetables, whole grains, legumes, natural soy products. Really quite remarkable, but
heart disease remains the number one risk of men and women for sudden change in health or actually sudden death.
There’s never too young to start working on it. The longer in life your blood pressure normal, your cholesterol normal,
your blood sugar normal, your fitness is optimal, you don’t smoke, by far the more you reduce your risk.
If you’re on a bad path and you want to change at age 50, 60, 70, or 80, change and make the changes, but God knows
if you can adopt this stuff when you’re 20, 25, 30, 35 you really have enhanced tremendously your chances of a healthy
brain, a healthy heart, and cancer risks too, for sure.
CANCER SURVIVOR, ARLENE BEGUN: PERSONAL TESTIMONIAL
Arlene Begun: I know the feeling, I know the doubts, I know the desperation, I know. But you have to listen to yourself.
You have to give you the opportunity. Your body can heal. It is doable. It happens every day. It doesn’t matter the stage,
it doesn’t matter the type of cancer, just find the right place, the right people to guide you with their expertise. You do
your part; you will see the results.”
The first thing you have to do, or I did, is empower yourself. How reading, looking for information, looking for stories
of people with success. Clinics, doctors. And then, when you gather that information, you have to change your lifestyle.
The way you eat. You have to change, I mean, you have to decrease the stress in your life, take the right supplements,
but you need someone to guide you through that. It’s very difficult to do it by yourself because you need someone
with expertise, like Dr. Kineli, to guide you. Or any other clinic, but by far I can tell you by my research, this is the most
helpful clinic in the whole U.S. You have to take care of yourself, do exercise, sleep enough, and therapists, they’re
going to point you out which ones are the best for you, because not everyone is the same. That’s the beauty of natural
medicine. It’s targeted, it’s personalized.
Gil Rodriguez: I guess I got a lot more respect for alternative medicine all-together from this experience because...I
kind of thought it was crazy at first, but now I’m a walking product of what it can do. Which, for me, is a miracle in a
sense. So, I just think that there’s, from the person I was walking in here to the person that I am now, there’s nowhere
near the same person. It’s just like a whole new me; healthier me, better mind-set, better living, better health, more
positive. Sometimes I walk by people and they have no idea who I am. They don’t even recognize me anymore. So, that’s
kind of cool to see how I’ve gone through such pain and fear of dying to now looking forward to the future, you know?
Dr. Jay Davidson: Your job as a listener right now, taking all this information, whether it’s for yourself or for a family
member, is to identify, okay, what’s holding me back or what’s holding them back? How can we start actually removing
that and going after it to then let the body heal? When it heals, there’s life, there’s health, there’s happiness. When
things are inflamed and the body is not well, that’s where disease and sickness, unhappiness really thrives.
Let’s focus on again, identifying what’s holding you back and how can we get you well and keep you well, that is always
the goal.

EPISODE 8
WEIGHT LOSS, DIABETES, BLOOD SUGAR, AND EXERCISE
Jonathan Otto: When it comes to weight loss we cannot deny that so many people struggle with this issue. We all
want to have a healthy weight and a healthy body. We all know that extra weight can lead to diabetes, heart disease
and stroke. In fact, a report released by the CDC in 2017 confirmed that 100 million Americans have diabetes or
pre-diabetes. That’s almost a third of the US population! The most significant thing about these statistics is that this
condition is totally reversible. There are countless individuals that have been able to completely reverse their Type 2
Diabetes and get off their medication. There is even hope for those suffering with Type 1 diabetes, which is now being
classified as an autoimmune disease by many health professionals. And now, even Alzheimer’s and Dementia is being
qualified as Type 3 Diabetes because of its relation to insulin resistance and insulin-like growth factor dysfunction. We
will cover this in-depth in another episode, but here we want to address the many aspects of weight loss, diabetes,
blood sugar and stroke.
People often try diet after diet and just don’t see results. But what if that extra weight is due to an imbalance in your
system? What if making some simple changes and taking some supplements to cleanse your body could help to reset
your hormones and allow you to easily lose weight? Cleansing your body can not only help you to lose weight, it can
also help you to reverse diabetes or avoid a stroke.
Initially, we’d like to address one of the major causes of weight gain. And it is chemical food addiction. While most
people just feel like it is a matter of self-control, science is showing that food can be addictive just like drugs. With food
manufacturers actually chemically designing their products to get your addicted, is it any wonder you or your family
members struggle to lose weight? The longer were on these processed drugs, the more our body starts to be affected
and damaged. The chemically altered, processed foods are actually changing the hormones and functions in our body
each day that we consume them.
FOOD ADDICTION
Liana Werner-Gray: There’s food. There’s also drugs and alcohol, but food is a very, very silent addiction that a lot
of people are addicted to and are very troubled by, but not really taking it that serious because it’s not drugs or alco-
hol. But, it does cause our body to commit suicide. It causes cancer. It causes all these health issues. So, yeah, I felt
absolutely terrible, and at that point, I just had to surrender. I just had nothing left. I tried everything for five years to
stop eating this processed food and fast food and sugar. I tried juicing. I tried fasting. I tried starving myself if I ate so
many calories in one day. It was just a very terrible, vicious cycle with food. So, I had just thrown it to the universe. I
was like, “Okay, God, I need something else in my life. I need something bigger than myself to help remove me from
this bubble that I’m trapped in. Take me outside of it and show me that there is a different way of living and being.”
FOOD ADDICTION — SUGAR ADDICTION
Dr. Ayesha Sherzai: It’s all psychological, it’s all psychological. And also, the processed foods are addictive. We actu-
ally know what happens in the brain when people eat sugar. Sugar acts essentially like cocaine. It fires up the same
receptors and the neurotransmitters that cocaine or any other drug does. So it’s very difficult to stay away from it.
And imagine if you’re used to that kind of food over and over and over again. Then normal food, normal unprocessed
foods are something that you wouldn’t even want to touch or bring to your home.
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FOOD ADDICTION
Liana Werner-Gray: “My dream and goal at that time was that I just wanted to be healthy and not crave junk food.
I remember that was my only dream. I was in university for film and television, and before I started binging on junk
food, that was my dream, to follow a career in film and television. Then, once I was just so unhealthy, all I wanted was
just to have my health back. So, I was just surrendering all of that, praying. God, I really need something else, need
something, a different idea.
Then, one day, it just dropped. That’s when I had the idea for my blog. Literally, I was just, it was on a Saturday, October
24th, and I remember it, 2009. It was just in the afternoon, and I just had this idea drop. Thank God. It was, okay, you’re
going to start a blog called the Earth Diet and do it for 365 days. Go back to nature. Eat foods that nature provides,
yeah, and heal your body that way. Straight away, the light bulb went off, and I was like, “That’s it. That’s the answer.
That’s it. That’s what I need to do.” From that day forward, everything felt so much lighter. I stopped craving junk foods.
I was able to replace all of my cravings with actual healthy, wholesome foods. It was a whole new life and a whole new
chapter for me from that day.
HEART DISEASE — BLOOD PRESSURE — PLANT — BASED DIET
Dr. Dr. Michael Klaper: I can remember other patients, but there’s an overall generic patient, like remembering my
patient, Ken. Lovely man, but he had high blood pressure and diabetes and sore joints and broken out skin. We got
him on a whole food plant-based diet. He was archetypal for all the others patients and we can promise this pretty
much to anyone who seriously adapts this. The change you see within days and weeks certainly manifested in Ken’s
body, but people can count on this. Within days of a whole food plant-based diet the obesity starts to melt away and
the arteries open up, and the high blood pressure goes down, the joints stop hurting and psoriatic skin clears up. The
asthmatic lungs stop wheezing. And the migraine headaches go away. They turn into lean, normal, healthy people with
bright eyes, and suddenly they don’t need this bag of pills they brought in. It’s such a delight to lay out all their pills on
my desk and say, “Well, you don’t need this one anymore. You don’t have high blood pressure anymore. Your blood
sugar’s normal. Don’t need the Metformin.” And just stop all these medications. And you see their spirit lifting, every
bottle that comes off. They say, “I don’t need that.” Because they were told, “You will take these pills the rest of your
life.” And it’s not true. You no longer have high blood pressure. You don’t need high blood pressure pills.
And that scene over my eight years at True North has been repeated so many times, that he’s kind of the archetypal
patient. But what a blessing for a physician to be able to offer this to our patients instead of, “You’ll take these pills
forever. You’ll never get well.” We can pretty much offer them, “You’re going to be so healthy that you won’t need
these medications.” The gift of health is the greatest gift a physician can give a patient, and they can give themselves.
I’ve been privileged to witness that now hundreds and hundreds of times. I’m the happiest doctor right now because
my patients get healthy.
MEDICATION — STROKE
Dr. Ayesha Sherzai: Remember when we see patients in the hospital who come in with stroke when they have a stroke
at that point there are risk factors for stroke which are usually diabetes high cholesterol and high blood pressure has
been so out of control for such a long time that the disease didn’t happen then we just see the final outcome of those
and risk factors at the hospitalization and we have only about three to four and a half hours to do something about it.
We have one medication is a clot dissolving medication at the hospital and that’s why a stroke is an emergency. We
get a quote stroke or pagers go off. Doctors are running to the emergency room. Families been asked when did the
stroke start. When were the symptoms visualized? Anybody who knows anything and then based on that information

we find that what was the last known normal. And then we calculate the time from then and we decide whether the
person should get a clot busting medication or not. And that is our massive treatment for stroke.
Usually when people get that clot busting medication you know a large percentage of them get better because the clot
that is clogging the artery melts away for a lot of them it doesn’t. And then there are other mechanisms where they
actually puncture the Gorean and go into the arteries and pull out the clot from the arteries. So those are the extreme
interventions during the sick period. Right. But what needs to be understood is that there have been years and years
and years and years and years of uncontrolled risk factors to have pushed the patient to that point.
Jonathan Otto: One thing you often see is that if someone develops one disease, they develop a second and third
illness as well. Once one part of our system starts to break down, it directly affects the other systems as well. When
our blood becomes more and more contaminated with toxins or our body becomes more and more deficient of the
vital nutrients that it needs, the body will try to sustain itself and compensate for as long as possible. However, we can
encounter triggers that may set something off in our system to spiral out of control, or we can reach a breaking point,
where our body is no longer able to adapt efficiently to the toxins or deficiencies. This is what we want to avoid. We
want to cleanse our body and keep it healthy and working optimally so that this break down never happens. However,
if you’ve already reached a point that your system has started to react and disease has started to manifest, there is
still hope!
MARK RAMIREZ STORY: REVERSE DIABETES, BLOOD PRESSURE, CHOLESTEROL, ED, AND SKIN ISSUES
Dr. Joel Kahn: I always bring up; we have a local star in Detroit named Mark Ramirez. Mark just turned 50, but he was
a star in the University of Michigan football team, a defensive end, 1990 to 1994. Big, ripped guy from the Latino com-
munity, a real hero. 10 years later, like so many athletes, he was now an executive in communications, he had a wife,
he had kids, wasn’t at the gym three hours a day, wasn’t being fed by trainers. He had gained a lot of weight and he
had accumulated Western diseases rather early in life, like the diagnosis of adult diabetes, blood pressure, cholesterol,
erectile dysfunction, skin issues.
He started to accumulate medications. He had a whole handful of medications, including insulin, by the time he was 40.
That’s called managing disease. Managing the labs. Managing the condition. He was scared to death because his family
was riddled with the complications of diabetes, like amputations and heart attacks and kidney disease and blindness.
He didn’t know where to turn, so about six, seven years ago, his in-laws handed him a copy of a very well-known video
called Forks over Knives. Handed him a copy of a book called Dr. Neil Bernard’s Plan for Reversing Diabetes. Never seen
them, never heard of them, and been to the doctors many, many times. Mark was motivated and maybe a little bit of
his athletic background of being able to achieve goals.
He read those things, watched that video and within days had completely transformed his diet. Miracle was, within
three months, the medications were gone, the weight was coming down, the blood sugar was normalized, and the
erectile dysfunction was beginning to disappear.
Really, by the end of the year, you wouldn’t recognize the human that existed a year before, in terms of totally free
of medication, totally free. You couldn’t detect by blood work that he had previously been a diabetic. You can reverse
and end Type 2 Diabetes in a sizable number of people if you work very, very hard.

The earlier in the course, the first time your doctor tells you your blood sugar’s up, is when you should go get books
by Dr. Neil Bernard or by Dr. John McDougal, or Dr. Joel Fuhrman or Dr. Gabriel Cousens and others who have written
on this and really dig in and get rid of the disease.
Mark Ramirez now, over 50, he looks like he just stepped off the football field, in terms of fitness and muscular tone
and life energy. It’s just wonderful to see that. He probably added 10 to 20 years to his own life, as well as quality of
life. He tripled it, he quadrupled it.
Fortunately, he’s out there speaking and educating and teaching people because we all need to participate in this
process of saying, “Let’s give hope. Let’s give health back and let’s reverse, not just manage disease.”
AUTOIMMUNE DISEASE & WEIGHT LOSS
Jonathan Otto: Weight loss is an issue that we’re often looking at, restricting calories and exercising a lot, but for so
many people perhaps even for you, it just doesn’t seem to work. It seems to just by breathing you’re putting on weight.
I do want to start to lead in this conversation with Dr. Jay Davidson here in regards to, how does autoimmunity play
a component in this particular issue when it comes to unwanted weight gain, stubborn belly fat, things that we just
can’t get rid of, the weight that just sticks to us? Is there an autoimmune component?
Yes. The things that cause autoimmunity will also trigger weight gain, Jonathan, so that’s an important thing to look at.
Really in our modern day epidemic, right now, heavy metal toxicity, chemical toxicity like pesticides all these chemicals
and toxins are what actually trigger autoimmunity and then they also cause weight gain. These toxins, when we’re
exposed to toxins, the body tries to process them. When it can’t, it stores them in fat as a way to protect the body from
the toxin or chemical attacking and damaging tissue basically or inflaming other tissue.
Dr. Jay Davidson: Somebody that’s weight loss resistant or you can’t lose weight like you mentioned, you just breathe
and you gain some weight, what happens is, oftentimes you need to start with detoxification first. You need to start
detoxing these chemicals out, and when there’s no toxin inside the fat anymore, then often times the body is like,
what’s the purpose of the fat here? We have excess, let’s get rid of it. Instead of counting calories and robbing Peter
to pay Paul type of thing in the dieting and all that stuff, a lot of times when we work on detoxification, then it’ll allow
the body to go to more of the ideal body weight.
Then the upside of that too is, the more toxins we remove, the autoimmunity of the body, like this autoimmune storm,
this autoimmune reaction we’re having, often time decreases significantly.
DIABETES
Dr. Joel Kahn: What really gets me more excited than almost anything, whether in my clinic or speaking to the public is
bringing up the word reversal. When you go to traditional medical clinics, good doctors, they’re talking about managing
your Type 2 Diabetes, managing your blood pressure, managing your heart disease, managing your brain disease.
Managing means we’re going to continue the course and hopefully not see it deteriorate with, usually medication,
sometimes surgery. That’s not what we’re really striving for, for optimal health. Of course the optimal goal is to prevent
these diseases. The earlier in life you adopt lifestyle changes emphasizing clean, whole food, plant sources of nutrition
and fitness and sleep and stress management. Avoiding smoking, avoiding pollution, optimizing your vitamin levels
with things like Omega-3 sources from ground flax, the better you’ll be. The truth is, there are a lot of people out there
with Type 2 Diabetes and with heart issues and with blood pressure, and cholesterol and obesity and brain disease
and psoriasis. Nobody’s talking reversal to them.

That gets me excited to bring that up and lead them to get educated on how there is the potential, no guarantee, to
modify, even reverse these diseases. The potential to decrease or maybe actually get rid of medications, if they make
a big commitment. The more they commit, they more they’re going to benefit out of it.
TYPES OF DIABETES
Jonathan Otto: Dr. Jay, can you talk to us about diabetes in the autoimmune connection here?
Dr. Jay Davidson: Yeah, so there are many types of diabetes out there. I mean people are saying now that diabetes
of the brain is type three. Type one though is classically known to be an autoimmune condition.
Jonathan Otto: Say that again, diabetes of the brain is type three, a turnabout Alzheimer’s?
Dr. Jay Davidson: Yeah, so the Alzheimer’s dementia category is what they refer to as type three diabetes. Type three
diabetes is diabetes of the brain essentially, but there’s other types of diabetes. There’s type one diabetes, which is
classically known to be autoimmune in nature, where basically the islet cells get attacked, there’s destruction in auto-
immune attacking of islet cells and production.
There’s type two diabetes, which is classically known as just being like you’re eating too much sugar, you have too high
of glucose levels. More recent research has actually shown that type two diabetes has an autoimmune component to it.
That they’re actually finding about one in three cases of type two diabetes, are actually related to chemicals or toxins.
What they’re saying is that, these chemicals or toxins are actually damaging our insulin receptors. Or they’re occupy-
ing insulin receptor, so the body can’t recognize it. Then that’s what’s actually triggering us to have type two diabetes.
Three cases are autoimmune in nature. There’s also other types like diabetes type one point five or a LADA, L-A-D-A,
that’s latent autoimmune diabetes of adulthood. I believe that’s what it stands for. That’s autoimmune in nature, so
we’ve got type one, we’ve got type one point five. Now we’re finding that actually quite a decent amount of type two
is actually autoimmune related as well.
DIABETES
Dr. Gabriel Cousens: The most important thing I see, like when I’m working with a diabetics and we’re healing 61%
of the diabetics who are non-insulin dependent, they’re off all medications, and in three weeks, 24% of the insulin
dependent diabetics are off all medications and non-diabetic in three weeks and 86.4% are off all their medications.
So let’s say non diabetic which is a blood sugar less than 100, we have Type 1 Diabetics who heal 21% in three weeks.
Needing no insulin, and a blood sugar less than 100 consistently. So we see all kinds of healings. I see arthritis, pretty
much 90%, osteoarthritis are healed. High blood pressure. Pretty much around 90% again. So there’s all kinds of things.
many chronic diseases are reversible. That’s the important thing.
DIABETES — 92 — YEAR — OLD
Dr. Gabriel Cousens: So I feel very hopeful, because I’ve been seeing it work at a very high percentage. And I want
to say at any age. At any age, I... My favorite story is about a lady who came in to our diabetes program. She was 92
years old. And in a wheelchair with severe arthritis. 13 medications, allopathic medications. High blood pressure and
diabetes. And after three weeks, off all her medications, no high blood pressure, no diabetes, saw her a year later, and
she was just bumping around. She’s 92 years old then, and she’s feeling great. So at any age this can happen.

So not only can it be reversed or healed, but it can be at any age, if you’re willing to go for it. If you’re willing to love
yourself enough to want to heal yourself. That’s the key thing. You have to have a certain motivation, and that motivation
comes from connecting to your soul, and then from that, you start to love yourself enough to want to heal yourself,
and then you’re motivated to do the work. But I want to emphasize, any age. You can do it at 92 with 13 medications
and being in a wheelchair. It means a lot of people can do things.
Jonathan Otto: Her
Dr. Gabriel Cousens: She got off 100% of them in three weeks. She was 92, she came to the Tree of Life Center in
Patagonia, Arizona, for our diabetes program, and by the end of three weeks, three weeks later, she was walking,
completely out of her wheelchair, she was... No longer had high blood pressure, she no longer had Type 2 diabetes,
and she was off all 13 of her medications. And she has remained that way, last time I saw her was a year later, and
she has remained that way.
PLANT — BASED DIET
Jonathan Otto: When it comes to losing weight and reversing symptoms of illness, making some simple lifestyle
changes can make such a significant difference. While many of our experts here tout the benefits of a plant-based
diet, people have found other diets that have greatly benefited their health. However, all this information is helpful
because there may be a food you are reacting to that you aren’t aware of. For example, dairy can cause autoimmune
reactions in many people and they may not know that is the culprit. So, as we list to the various advice from our ex-
perts, keep in mind things that may be triggering your illness or prohibiting you from losing weight.
Weight Loss & Plant-based Diet
Dr. Joel Kahn: Many, many friends in Detroit as part of that have lost well over a hundred pounds solely through con-
verting from the standard American diet to plant diet and by losing that 100 pounds there it goes brain health up and
up and up because of that relationship, number one, between body size and smaller brain over time. And if you will
get your body weight more optimal, you’ll be in a situation where you have a better brain size long term. Plus as you
lose weight in that regard, whether it’s 20 pounds, 40 pounds, or ultimately for some people over a hundred, I’ll tell you
another hero story in a second, your blood pressure’s down, your cholesterol is down, your blood sugars down, your
inflammation’s down, it’s called oxidative stress is down. You’re going to have a better brain, there’s no doubt about it.
EXERCISE — SLEEP — DIET
Dr. Alan Goldhamer: Diet, sleep, and exercise, those are the things people can do It’s about health is a result of health-
ful living, so a big part of what we’re trying to do is teach people how to live healthfully. How to eat a health promoting
diet, engage in appropriate activity and ensure adequate rest and sleep.
Dr. Alan Goldhamer: Actually, we’ve published a number of papers in the medical literature. One of the most recent
cases in the British Medical Journal involved a woman with lymphoma who’d had a two year progressive history of
lymphoma. It was rated grade three lymphoma, follicular lymphoma in particular. She’d been well documented with
incisional biopsy and all the rest of it. She underwent 21 days of fasting. During the fast, her tumors disappear. 10 days
of refeeding, back for follow up. We now have a three year follow up published. Also, even just a few months ago we
got a follow up published in BMJ. That demonstrates now that she will overcome lymphoma. ‘Coz she’s been able to
maintain it. Now she’s done it by eating by eating a whole plant food, SOS free diet.

The problem with this approach is that they require people to do dangerous and radical things like eat well and ex-
ercise, go to bed on time, get appropriate exercise and that’s beyond the lifestyle of many people. They don’t want to
have to do something that radical. And for those that are willing to do radical things, like a adopt to health promoting
diet so it’s remarkable what the body can actually do if you get out of the way.
WEIGHT LOSS TESTIMONY & PLANT-BASED DIET
Dr. Joel Kahn: So I’ll just tell you one other hero. About five, actually exactly five years ago, a podiatrist in town that
I grew up with as a child but hadn’t seen much, but we are Facebook friends like a lot of people are, kept seeing my
postings on plant nutrition, plant nutrition, plant nutrition because Facebook’s a good place to talk about whatever
fires you up and that fires me up. And he was at that time it was life maybe five foot seven, nearly 300 pounds, wear-
ing the mask at night. Medical professional but is wearing the CPAP, taking blood pressure, taking cholesterol, taking
blood sugar medicine, the whole gamut that a busy medical professional, a busy lawyer, a busy school teacher, so
many people are dealing with. You’re in your late fifties and you’re totally trapped in the medical system, and you got
equipment you’re using. It’s crazy.
And he finally decided exactly five years ago, I’m done with this. I’ve got to try with this guy’s talking about. And he
took two steps. He decided to change his diet and to this whole food plant diet naturally low in oil, meaning dumping
everything with oil, and he decided to get back in the kitchen because his wife frankly wasn’t very supportive. And I
remember right at the beginning, she is now. Allan Kalmus, Dr. Allan Kalmus has lost over a hundred pounds. It came
off quick actually. He’s been very stable now probably for, I think it was 80 pounds in the first year and over a hundred
now is sustained. And then he decided, and I’m going to see if I can exercise, because when he was nearly 300 pounds
he wasn’t exercising. So he would do little walk runs, walk runs, and half mile runs, and mile runs. And pretty regularly
now he’s doing 10k’s, and he’s posting, and he’s advising people, and he’s posting as recipes. The recipes are amazingly
innovative and never with oil.
Just another life transform that from a cardiovascular standpoint, he dramatically dropped his risk for heart attack and
stroke, for brain health, dementia, and such. He’s dramatically dropped his risk for developing a shrunken brain and
memory deficits down the road. Sleep apnea is associated with heart rhythm problems, strokes, and impaired brain
and memory. So by losing weight, he’s off his CPAP, he threw that away a couple of years ago and reduced dramatically
his risk of memory deficits and such from all the complications he had. It’s just remarkable and it’s really a decision
and a commitment, and fortunately we do have the support group in Detroit; so be sure in your own community you
start one up too. If there isn’t one, it doesn’t take many funds. It just takes some commitment and energy.
WEIGHT LOSS
Jonathan Otto: Jeff, when it comes to essential oils for weight loss, can they actually be helpful? Is that just a fad or is
it actually true that they can help? Obviously we can’t eat whatever we want and then just expect the oil to do the work
but can they be partnered with a good diet to help and get people results that they couldn’t have got without the oil?
Jeff Styba: For sure. If you’re struggling with weight loss, and you’re eating properly, there is something physiologically
wrong in your body causing you not to lose weight. And so yeah, we can support that with essential oils, and we want
to look at weight loss from a couple different angles as well, not just I have weight on, I want it gone, which we all do
if we’re overweight.
However, we want to attack and support different systems of our body. So number one, again look at detox. You want
to be doing citrus oils because if you’re not losing weight, you’re not detoxifying properly. So you have to detox and
so we want to support that with citrus oils. If you’re having cravings like sugar cravings and carbohydrate cravings and

you’re finding yourself snacking on these between your healthy meals, then you need to use oils that are going to help
regulate and balance your blood sugar.
And so then we look at cinnamon bark essential oil for that. Another great detox oil is ginger. So ginger is another one.
And if we’re feeling sluggish, like no energy. ‘Cause when we’re on a weight loss plan, you should be doing some sort
of activity. But if you’re having trouble with the energy levels, and you want to increase that using again grapefruit
essential oil is a wonderful oil that helps support metabolism and helps to give us more energy.
So you want to hit it from multiple different areas and not just look at, ‘I want to lose weight.’ You want to find out
why you’re not losing weight, but even before you know that you want to support the systems that help us maintain
a healthy weight and help us burn fat better. If that makes sense.
NUTRITARIAN DIET — LOSING WEIGHT
Dr. Joel Fuhrman:Now, if you’re at a favorable weight that’s great. But if you’re an overweight women and you want a
nutritarian diet, then you’re losing weight. And if you’re on a nutritarian diet you’re losing about a pound every three
days. When you’re losing a pound every three days then the cells stop secreting so much estrogen and angiogenesis
promoters. In other words, the risk of cancer is going down and the risk of diabetes is going down even before all the
weight is lost. I’m mentioning this because the average American woman is 60 pounds overweight. Just so you know.
60 pounds overweight. That’s average in America. And 90% of women in America are overweight. 90%, because we’re
using the BMI of 23 as a demarcation line, which is when all the Blue Zones the women have BMI’s below 23. The U.S.
government uses a BMI of 25 as a demarcation of who is overweight and who is not. We use the correct BMI then we
define most women are overweight and they’re very overweight.
So, it’s a combination of a bad diet on top of being so overweight. But I’m giving people who are overweight some extra
motivation and knowledge here to say that as you’re in the process of dropping your weight down, the fat cells start to
become less lipotoxic. Did you follow that? The fat cells are not as dangerous and you’re still overweight. Because the
insulin resistance starts to go down, you lose the saturated fat, insulin receptors. In other words, you have these cup
like shaped molecules or receptor sites in the wall of the cells and they’re full of saturated fat from animal products
block in there and that blocks the uptake of insulin. So now you become more insulin resistant. And you mix fat with
the saturated fats that block the receptor sites and now you become diabetic.
TYPE 1 DIABETES
Dr. Gabriel Cousens: Well, I actually am saying that 21% of the Type 1 Diabetics I saw did reverse it, and were insu-
lin-free and no longer had diabetes. That’s 21%. You know, when you go in the wrong direction, you end up in the wrong
direction. Old saying. Old Chinese saying. So people don’t understand diabetes, so they don’t know how to cure it.
Dr. Gabriel Cousens: All ages. Some are older, some are younger. But all age-
Jonathan Otto: Some people... Sorry?
Dr. Gabriel Cousens: All ages and all levels of insulin, yeah. 20 years, 30 years. Type 1 and Type 2. It’s a little complicated
but 88% of people with Type 1 diabetes produce insulin, that’s a fact. And they also, obviously, have insulin-producing
cells called beta cells. So that’s 88%. So let’s start there. Now, if you have a certain sugar intake, right, and you’re pro-
ducing enough insulin to deal with that, even as a Type 1 diabetic, then you’re going to get healed. There’s no miracle
here. If you are taking in more glucose and fructose than you’re producing insulin, then you won’t get healed.

So there’s a bunch of people who... Well, I shouldn’t say a bunch. 31% who, their blood sugar went down, they’re off
all insulin, but they weren’t less than 100. A fasting blood sugar less than 100. But 21% were producing enough insulin
that when we can really amplify their system and get it working at optimal, that they were able to be 100% off insulin
and have a fasting blood sugar of less than 100. That’s exciting. That’s very profound. So that’s what we found.
PLANT — BASED DIET — MEDITERRANEAN DIET — STROKE
Dr. Ayesha Sherzai: And if we could potentially get to that patient or intervene at a stage where they are not at that
sick, sick state where they are, you know, in the process of getting worse but we stop it and we reverse their risk factors.
That’s what our goal is. That’s why we study diet. That’s why we study the effects of exercise and stress management
and so on and so forth. And I think that as our biggest responsibility in public health to intervene when people haven’t
gotten to that extreme state where we pour thousands of dollars in diagnostics and hospitalization care for very little
gain very little gain.
WEIGHT LOSS AND DIABETES
Dr. Joel Fuhrman: So, we got to get the fat off the body so your body doesn’t produce too much insulin. Because insulin
is a hormone, in excess, that promotes angiogenesis, cellular replication and cancer. It’s a fat growth hormone. But
what I’m saying right now is if we get this person losing weight at a pound every three days, two pounds a week, their
insulin receptors start to clear out, their cells start to repair themselves, estrogen production in the cell goes down,
and they start to get better and healthier even though they didn’t get a favorable weight yet.
So, if you really want to be healthy you either have to losing weight towards that ideal weight, or you have to be at the
ideal weight. And your metabolism will change and moderate itself so when you get to that ideal weight you naturally
will stop losing. And a women’s body fat percentage shouldn’t be above 25% body fat. So, her BMI should be below 23
and her body fat should probably be below 23 as well, ideally. You know what I mean? So I think 23, 23 is really ideal.
BMI below 23, body fat below 23%. For a man we want the body fat much lower than that. Probably below 15% is ideal.
EXERCISE — SLEEP — DIET
Dr. Ryan Wohlfert: Obviously on this series that you’re doing on our master class, food, gut health, is huge with how
that affects the brain. So there are a lot of people who believe that is. You for example, I loved your point about fitness,
as your body has to get moving, you know, you talked about some research about that. So that opened my eyes, be-
cause honestly that took a back seat in my life. I mean I still workout, I still exercise, but fitness was always on the top
of my list for years and years and years. So I had a great background in that, and over the last five to 10 years I’ve in-
corporated more sleep, and I’ve even talked about this, more focus in mindset practices, subconscious reprogramming.
I’ve incorporated food, healthier food, into my life because I grew up and it was, I mean... Because I was so active,
I thought that’s means I can eat anything that I want. And typically it did, without many issues until it actually did.
Because it adds up in your body.
You know, for example, you ask what’s the most important. Well, Dr. Mike Headley, who’s like the holistic sleep doctor,
he talked about sleep and he made a great point saying that sleep is more important than food and fitness. Because
think about how that affects your brain when you don’t get sleep. If you don’t sleep for 24 hours, how is your brain
functioning? How much energy do you actually have? And hey, I tell you what, he made a great point. And we’re not
saying, you’re not saying, I’m not saying that fitness isn’t important and food isn’t important.

They’re all have a role, but sometimes for certain people, like if you’re a late shift worker, you know, you work through
the night, well your sleep pattern is going to be interrupted so you better make sure you’re taking care of and addressing
the things that you can. You know, optimize your sleep as much as possible, get the bed at the same time. But your
food has to be good, making sure you eat whole foods, nutrient dense foods, lots of vegetables. Incorporating fruit,
lowering on the meat, not as much meat as you’d been led to believe, because that can have a similar effect.
And you know, a smart man once told me just before, that in 10, 20, 30 years, you might find that eating just as much
meat has the same effect as eating too much sugar, or eating too much gluten or eating too much dairy, which all of
those are inflammatory foods.
WEIGHT LOSS
Dr. Joel Fuhrman: Here’s the thing, is that what people do short term... People are into fad diets, anything to get quick
results, even go on a fast. Here’s what I’m saying is that it’s what you do long term that determines your ultimate weight.
The stable weight that you maintain for the rest of your life determines the quality of your later years.
Let me be clear here, that when you lose weight, 10 pounds, 20 pounds or 30 pounds, that weight is not going to stay
off you unless you kept doing what you did to lose it. When you do these crazy diets that you can’t maintain, you lose
weight, and then the weight comes back. Here’s the problem with that, is that when the weight comes back, you put
on more saturated fat on your body and you put on more visceral fat because of the rapid regain of weight after you
went on one of these crazy diets to lose weight.
PLANT — BASED DIET — MEDITERRANEAN DIET — STROKE
Dr. Ayesha Sherzai: Most of these patients who have a stroke end up either being paralyzed for the rest of their
lives or not able to speak at all or losing sight or losing their memories. And it’s quite unfortunate because you know
we have handouts for nursing homes or the hospitalization and we just push them out to a rehab center for getting
physical therapy which at the end of the day doesn’t do anything.
We live at a time where time is our biggest commodity. Whether you’re a you know at home mom taking care of your
family and your children or you’re an executive at a company or your physician taking care of others or just a commu-
nity leader serving others and trying to make a difference.
We really don’t have a lot of time because we’ve decided to keep ourselves busy with our purposes and that’s good. The
negative side of that is health has always swiped on the side and we always forget we always forget how to take good
care of ourselves. And I don’t I don’t know why that happens. But self-care is always forgotten and not prioritized. And
those kind of situations. I think the most the most wonderful thing that we can do obviously as far as nutrition goes is
you know eat mostly plant based diet. But you know in the rush of things we don’t get all of the nutrients in our meals
and I’m all for supplementing the necessary anti-inflammatories and the vitamins that we miss in eating a whole food
plant based diet so you know adding herbs and spices which are incredible sources of anti-inflammatory compounds
or the specific vitamins and the enzymes that are needed for foods to be better digested and better presented to your
body or to increase the synergy between food items is absolutely important.
SUPPLEMENTS — DETOX
Jonathan Otto: Since we take in food every day at every meal, it is an essential component of our health and can serve
as a natural remedy to many ailments, but oftentimes, once an illness has been triggered, simply changing your diet or
adding and eliminating foods is not enough. When our bodies are loaded down with toxins or is nutrient deficient, we

need to go a step beyond healthy eating, we need to offer our system the chance to detoxify, to rid itself of parasites
and to begin to get the nutrients it needs to function efficiently. Supplements can give us this needed reset effect.
My wife went through many health challenges and she made many lifestyle changes, but it wasn’t until she started
really cleansing her body with herbal supplements and making sure she was effectively absorbing the nutrients she
was taking in, that her body really started to fully heal. Seeing this amazing effect first-hand in her health, in my own
health and the health of our family members has been a great blessing and has given me the motivation to share this
with others. It’s so important to really get our body to the point of peak performance. We rarely think of having our
organs operating at “peak performance”, but we actually have that power and opportunity within our own to achieve
this goal. And supplements are an essential component of that process.
SUPPLEMENTS AND DETOX LEAD TO WEIGHT LOSS
Dr. Daniel Nuzum: What we have here is digestive enzymes, particularly high proteolytic. Wonderful thing with this is,
it also has here lactobacillus probiotics, which help the small intestines, setting the stage for the rest of the digestive
tract to detox, right. We have a gentle colon cleansing product here that’s more fiber based. Nice thing with this is, it’s
going to, it will absorb a lot of the toxins as it’s moving through the colon. The formula itself, alright, really nice... That’s
good. Using turmeric to stimulate more hydrochloric acid production in the stomach and enhancing your absorption
of Vitamin D3, but using the Vitamin D3 with the omegas here, giving it a little bit of a fat source so then you can get
more absorption to that.
Now, although those things are going to improve your lymphatic drainage, that’s great. Again, we don’t want to blow
things out of the body, alright. You’ve got to get things moving, get things draining. If you drain the body properly in
a, throughout a detox, you’re going to help the body resolve a lot of the inflammation that it’s just accumulate, the
waste in the, let me see here. What it’ll, what, draining the body properly will help with reducing overall inflammation
in the body and especially a lot of the water weight that someone carries ‘cause the body will dilute toxins into parts
per million. I don’t know if I’ve talked to you about that. If the body’s toxic with something, it’ll retain water in order to
keep that toxin diluted. But if you go through a proper drainage process, you not only get rid of the toxin, you get rid
of the excess water. You know what a side effect of all that would be? Weight loss.
Jonathan Otto: Huh.
Dr. Daniel Nuzum: By detoxing folks would not only reduce the level of inflammation in their body, but they’ll also
lose weight in the process.
Jonathan Otto: That’s fantastic because I’d find that in my experience, from the work I’ve been doing, is that a lot of
people that haven’t been able to lose weight, doing all the things, whether it goes from paleo to ketogenic to extreme
workout regimes, and then a lot of people are still struggling. They almost feel like, “All I have to do is breathe and I
gain weight.” It’s almost true because of this inflammatory issue that’s going on. By working on the detox and clearing
all these drainage pathways, clearing the lymphatic system, working on the liver and kidneys, and approaching it in
this particular manner, we’re able to get the transformation that someone’s actually looking for.
GUT HEALTH & WEIGHT
Jonathan Otto: Dr. Jay, what’s the relationship between gut related problems and weight gain? How do these things
follow each other? If somebody that’s suffering from obesity, they may have some autoimmune components that’s
causing that, and somebody that’s maybe obese for eating choices that they’re making causing autoimmunity or this

thing may just be very symbiotic. What do you understand in terms of this mechanism? How can somebody can un-
derstand that and turn that around for themselves?
Dr. Jay Davidson: Yes. Gut issues, so if you’re having gut issues, one of the things to look at is intestinal permeability
or leaky gut. Basically what happens, think of it as you have Swiss cheese in the intestinal tract and the holes are too
big, so there are things sneaking through. When there are foreign things sneaking through, then we’re now absorbing
things that we’re not supposed to, and again these are foreign objects. This can cause weight issues. This can often
times do the opposite though; it will actually create so much inflammation, so much autoimmunity that people become
underweight.
Dr. Jay Davidson: We’ve got kind of the spectrum that, yeah, you could definitely be overweight from having gut issues
and leaky gut and inflammation there and foreign things getting in or under-natured proteins and things getting in.
You can also have the other side, which I usually see from a clinician standpoint of the chronically ill or this very severe
chronic autoimmune state words really like underweight.
Dr. Jay Davidson: I feel like no matter if you’re under or over, we still want to heal the body and go after the sources
that are upstream. Then the body will come back to whatever its ideal weight is for you, your body type, your age, all
the above.
MICROBIOME
Dr. Alan Goldhamer: One of the things you want to talk about, you have several pounds of bacteria living in your
digestive system and those living creatures are eating, drinking, respirating, and pooing. And when those bacteria
poo on you can make a difference in your health. If you see those bacteria things like me, they’re going to be pulling
out TMAL or tr trimethylamine oxidase which can be a really toxic product that thought to be associated with heart
disease and other cancer formation etcetera. If you’re feeding your bacteria cells of fibers like sweet potatoes, you’re
going to be giving some fertilizer in the form of Vitamin K and a lot of things.
So, the idea is simplistically, is that we want to feed the bacteria that live in our GUT the foods that they are designed
synergistically to eat and not feeding on things that yield all kinds of toxic products. That’s why we believe that advocat-
ing a whole plant food diet that’s free of added salt; oil and sugar maybe helpful not just undo the effect of controlling
obesity but also affecting the mycobiome that is such an important part of our immune system.
We believe that whole plant foods, so fruits, vegetables, grains, legumes, nuts and seeds are favorable and the foods
that tend to be antagonistic include the animal foods like meat, fish products and dairy products as well as the highly
processed chemicals added to food including oil, salt and sugar.
DIET — MICROBIOME — GUT FLORA
Dr. Alan Goldhamer: Oh most important that would be to try to avoid accumulating materials faster than we’re elim-
inating. And that’s where our health promoting whole plant food, SOS free diet comes in. Well, I think we have the key
to a whole plant food diet. So fruits, vegetables, grains, legumes, nuts and seeds, and avoiding meat, fish, fowl, eggs,
and dairy products as well as added salt, oil and sugar that makes people toxic waste stubs that they are.
Jonathan Otto: Exactly.
Dr. Alan Goldhamer: One common problem on females include obesity, fibrocystic breast disease, dysmenorrhea,
menorrhagia, uterine fibroid tumor formation and these things have a few things in common. One of the things that
they may have in common is elevations or alterations in estradiol levels. These estradiol converts to estriol for excre-

tion, but when the GUT flora and microflora that lives in your intestinal tract, and your liver function is not to speed
and get hormonal imbalances. So, one theory is that by we build in that gap mycobiome by using fasting and dietary
change. You can allow the proper conversion of hormones and their by-products to be eliminated and we clinically see
fibrocystic breast disease, dysmenorrhea, menorrhagia, the fibroid tumors reversing. And so, the science isn’t there to
prove what the exact mechanism are that certainly something we’re looking into trying to quantify. But we certainly
see the clinical outcomes, they are very gratifying.
Blood Sugar / Herbs and Nutrients
Brenda Davis:These these compounds these spices and herbs come near the top of antioxidants score charts and
so having you know one of the things with a lot of chronic diseases that we see is we see a low antioxidant status.
And so adding every time you’re eating something so you know if you have a breakfast bowl adding in the nutmeg,
cloves, and cinnamon, and ginger. All of those kinds of of spices if you’re doing a sweet bowl they work well. You’re
adding just a ton of antioxidants and that will help some of them have been shown to actually even help reduce blood
glucose what we call post prandial blood glucose or after meal blood glucose
CINNAMON — BLOOD SUGAR — FAT STORAGE
Dr. Ryan Wohlfert: Cinnamon, one, it tastes great and it replaces sugar that you might put in a lot of dishes. So, we
sprinkle cinnamon on our sweet potato, instead of... Thanksgiving, sometimes they make these candied yams and then
put marshmallows on it. To me, at this point, that is disgusting. Because I’ve been practicing this for years.
So, cinnamon helps decrease your blood glucose levels are controlled and regulate your blood glucose levels. Because
when glucose, the sugar in your blood gets too high, where does it get shoved? It gets shoved in your cells. Get stored
as fat. The fat cells grow; you get toxins in there as well. So, then your body doesn’t want to get rid of it because it will
dump the toxins into your blood. Your body is so smart, it knows how to protect you and that’s what it’s going to do.
So, with cinnamon, I like Ceylon cinnamon, C-E-Y-L-O-N. That’s a better... Any cinnamon is beneficial with that, if you
want to take it to the next level and even upgrade it past the normal... I don’t know what it’s called, table cinnamon or
not, like table salt. Like Ceylon cinnamon, that’s usually what’s in stores. Look for Ceylon cinnamon because it has a
better anti-inflammatory, anti-blood glucose benefit to it when you have that.
RED GRAPES, BLOOD SUGAR, SKIN, AND HEART DISEASE
Dr. Sruti Lam: Now, I want to talk a little bit about different fruit that I have here. As you can see, I have a variety of
fruit. I have red grapes, blueberries, and cantaloupe. Let’s start with red grapes. Red grapes are excellent for blood
sugar regulation. The part of the grape that is full of nutrition is the skin of the grape, and the seed of the grape. You
must have noticed there’s a lot of different supplements with grape seed extract in it, and grapes are very high in a
nutrient called resveratrol. That’s why they say one glass of wine actually helps with cardiovascular health.
It is not because of the fermentation of the food, but basically the nutrient by itself. Resveratrol actually helps decrease
bad cholesterol. It helps with circulation, and is excellent for any kind of heart disease. Resveratrol also helps decrease
blood sugar levels, and balances out insulin sensitivity. Resveratrol is antibiotic. It is antimicrobial and antiseptic at the
same time. All of those things in resveratrol. That’s why fermented grape juice, or wine, doesn’t really cause any kind
of infection when you drink it, because of that.
Grape seed has been used as an oil, and grape seed extracts are actually used for antibacterial, antiparasitic functions
as well. And so, grapes just have very high Vitamin C. They’re great for flu, and cold remedies, and they’re excellent

tasting. So, grapes, or grape juice, can be used as snacks, you can freeze dry it, you can juice it, you can use in your
smoothies. Excellent snack to carry around.
The red color of the grape also is full of anthocyanins. That has the highest polyphenol, so different kinds of grapes.
There’s red, there’s black, and there’s green. Each color contains a different polyphenol that is excellent for our health.
TESTING — BLOOD SUGAR
Dr. Rudy Mueller: So, from a testing perspective you want to look at fasting insulin, you want to look at fasting glucose,
you want to look at hemoglobin A1C. There’s a new, I say new, fairly new market that we’re looking at that’s similar
to hemoglobin A1C, where hemoglobin A1C is over three months, control the blood sugar kind of gives us a number,
right? A 5.5, 6.2, and we utilize that number to try to figure out if somebody’s pre diabetic, diabetic, it’s looking at long
term control. There’s another one, GSP, which is looking at two weeks control of blood sugar. We focus on the fasting
insulin, we focus on the fasting glucose, we’ll occasionally do a one hour, two hour postprandial, meaning that you eat
something, take a sugar load and now we’re seeing how the body’s responding from there, right? From insulin and
glucose perspective.
So, if you’re seeing those numbers elevated, the first thing you need to be looking at, is you need to be looking at the
types of food, the macronutrients of your food, looking at carbohydrate load, potentially looking to reduce that. I would
say the other thing you need to be looking at is the timing of when you’re eating, when you’re consuming food. Is it
during daytime? Are you consuming a lot in the evening right before bed? You really want to shrink that window down.
We can utilize intermittent fasting to help with improving that, but really I think that the other important piece here,
besides just the composition of the food and its macronutrients as well as micronutrients, is the timing of when we’re
doing it and the timing of when our body is meant to be exposed to glucose. And then increase insulin in response
to that glucose.
DIABETES
Dr. Daniel Nuzum: Type two diabetics, their insulin receptor sites in their cells are not functioning properly, right?
Sometimes they’re missing different nutrients, almost always they’re missing different nutrients. One of the things they
said when I first was in naturopathic medical school, one of the tenants with nutrition for a diabetic was that diabetics
require twice as much nutrition, okay? Interesting fact and that was my professors originally always told us diabetics
require twice as much nutrition.
And part of that was if they were passing nutrients, they would burn through a lot of the nutrients faster just because
of the blood sugar imbalance and whatnot, so it’d take more nutrients to metabolize things and so on and so forth.
So long story short, if someone’s dealing with blood sugar regulation issues, hypoglycemia, where their blood sugar
is bottoming out, this would be something that I would use in that case. Or if they’re running where they’re insulin
resistant and the body’s just not utilizing insulin very well, this’d be something else I would use.
BLOOD SUGAR
Jonathan Otto: Blood sugar is an issue for who and why? How do we know because some people would be able to
quickly to find out whether they have a blood sugar issue. If they feel like they might, then the quickest thing to do is
to get a supplement that could enhance their blood sugar, especially it’s all natural. The herbs are going to be great
anyway. Then they can just see whether it makes them feel better. Who’s it an issue for and why? Then how can they
resolve it?

Dr. John Dempster: Blood sugar control is an issue for all of us. It’s something that’s so fundamental; it’s not just for
diabetics. It’s helpful to help us maintain an optimal weight, optimal brain function, really reducing inflammation. If
we have any sort of imbalances with our sugar levels, we’re going to have an excessive secretion of insulin or an inad-
equate secretion of insulin. That can really start to play with a number of factors in your body. We really want to make
sure that we’re constantly giving our body the tools and the real co-factors to help support the organs that balance
and secrete all the hormones that are necessary for glucose secretion.
Jonathan Otto: Yeah. What is something called building block that is being affected by blood sugar control?
Dr. John Dempster: For blood sugar control, you’ve got to have chromium. Got to make sure that your chromium
levels are good. Got to make sure that your alpha-lipoic acid levels are good. Something called guggul. G-U-G-G-U-L.
Not the other Google. These are just great tools, great fundamentals and gymnema sylvestre is another great one and
cinnamon, of course, is one of my favorites.
Dr. John Dempster: If you can find something that’s going to support you in those levels, you’re doing a great thing.
BLOOD SUGAR — SUPPLEMENTS
Jonathan Otto: Speaking about blood, I’d love to ask you about blood sugar and blood sugar balance.
Jonathan Otto: It’s super relevant to me because I’ve had to contend with it as, almost like somebody who’s diabetic.
And somewhere on the spectrum like well I’ve had high levels of thirst and some of my studies led me towards looking
at toxin induced insulin resistance. If you’ve heard of that term.
Jonathan Otto: Yeah. And so I’ve been working on that. Improving my health and detoxifying on my own. It’s looking at
and doing even humic and folic acids, like going after metals. Just recently I started doing cinnamon and moringa and
some other combination of herbs for blood sugar balance and that immediately did give me some relief when it came
to the thirst. But I’m learning myself and this is relevant to me, and I’m also just curious as to what you see as being
affected with that just in general and then herbs that people can use to balance their blood sugars because obviously
I need some long term solution. I need some immediate relief and a lot of people would need that.
Dr. Rudy Mueller: I think if I were just to speak to one it would be berberine. Berberine 500 milligrams a couple of
times per day is a phenomenal way to change your blood sugar and now some question about whether or not it’s
actually how it’s impacting the microbiome. And that is changing the way that your blood sugar... what results as your
blood sugar or insulin reading. Because it’s an antimicrobial to some bad bacteria as well as it helps, we’re seeing it
help lower blood sugar. About glucose and decreasing insulin response.
Berberine is something that we use as an herb. Barnone with almost every one of our patients that are showing ele-
vated glucose or pre diabetic, diabetes, we utilize berberine a lot. What else when it comes to type two diabetes, they’re
certain nutrients that you’re going to use, you’re going to use chromium to help with the insulin receptor hearing that
sound of insulin again. Yeah, I would say berberine is probably my top herb. And cinnamon is something that we utilize
as well but it’s in a blend, it’s in a combination product.
Jonathan Otto: This is interesting. I have combination of herbs on there with the blood sugar but some of it you think-

Dr. Rudy Mueller: Well certainly bitter melon is something, guggul is another one that’s been studied, there’s your
chromium right there. Magnesium, biotin, is another one. Alpha-lipoic acid as well and gymnema. Yeah, I think this
is great. This is a good product. Gymnema is one that we used to use as a liquid. And then it was just for people who
are having a blood sugar toxicity. Gynema was a big one that would just help with restoring the insulin receptors. But
decreasing the blood sugar is pretty cool.
BALANCING BLOOD SUGAR
Dr. Jay Davidson: When we’re looking at blood sugar, there is a lot of great options out there. The mineral chromium
is actually very important for blood sugar balance, and that’s why it’s important to have your minerals balanced opti-
mized in your body.
There are a lot of minerals, and to try to think like hey, I’m going to take just one mineral and not mess anything else up
is kind of silly. So we want to make sure we’re taking an active mineral that is broad spectrum to help actually balance
everything out, but chromium specifically is great for blood sugar. There are herbs like bitter melon, berberine, that
are fantastic too, and there are a lot of companies out there that have things like that, but there’s so many.
The great thing that we live in right now is there are so many amazing options that are available now that weren’t 30
years ago. So where we could look at wow, there are more toxins than ever. It’s like but we also have more solutions
than ever. It’s like the good with the maybe not so great. It’s like that’s just part of life. And to realize how exciting of
a time we live in, awesome.
PCOS — POLYCYSTIC OVARIAN SYNDROME
Dr. Rudy Mueller: Gymnema is one that we used to use as a liquid and it was a straight liquid gymnema and we could
see PCOS like disappear from utilizing gymnema.
Jonathan Otto: Amazing. And the PCOS?
Dr. Rudy Mueller: Yeah, polycystic ovarian syndrome, which is due to hyperinsulinemia and elevated levels of testos-
terone in the system. You want to decrease, you want to obviously affect the diet and then provide supplements and
nutrients to help with improving the insulin response as well as helping a person, with a conversion... a woman with
a conversion of testosterone and estrogen, and clearing that testosterone out of the system.
CHLORELLA: SKIN, ALTITUDE AND WEIGHT LOSS
Dr. Sruti Lam: Other benefits of chlorella are just cleansing acne, eczema, psoriasis. Daily intake of chlorella improves
circulation of your body.
Chlorella is an excellent herb to be taken when you go up to high altitudes. So if you are not a person who does a lot of
hiking or mountaineering, chlorella helps you increase your oxygen intake by increasing and improving your circulation
when you go up to high altitudes. So a lot of people who have altitude sickness, chlorella is a good supplement to take
before you go up to this mountain, so you don’t have the altitude sickness of nausea or motion sickness or vomiting
or a stomach upset, because it improves your circulation.
It is also great for weight loss. It helps by decreasing your serum cholesterol. That’s what helps in releasing all the bad
cholesterol and helps in burning fat.

AFFORDING SUPPLEMENTS
Jonathan Otto: That’s awesome, man. And it’s awesome in that because today there’s never been a time, and I think
this is something came up before where because of the concept, when we don’t see them as medicines in the sense
where it’s like, “Give it to me, now I’m done.” Because that’s how you think about a medicine typically. But they are
medicines, yes, but the medicine that we’re talking about is one that continues to manage your body or manages to
continue to keep systems balanced. And the reason why I bring that up is because I think that today living in the time
that we live in, there’s never been a time to do this more cost effectively, and that’s what I believe.
Even though there’s never been a time when people were more advantage of people because we’re not really aware
of what things should cost and so people are overcharging and making us feel that this one is better than this one,
but that’s why I believe that every good company should have it as their mission to make it cost effective because they
understand that people are going to have to not just do it one time and then they’re done.
“Oh, how long am I going to have to take this?” And a lot of the reason why they’re saying that is they’re thinking, “Well,
how am I going to afford this every month?” Or a number of times a year.
Dr. Daniel Nuzum: Right.
Jonathan Otto: And the great answer is, just the same way you afford the lettuce that’s in your fridge, the same way
you afford the organic fruit and vegetables. Or even if somebody says, “Why can’t I afford organic?” You’ll find that a
lot of the great supplements that people can get will be something that they can still add in, they can do what is called
EWGs, Dirty Dozen and Clean 15, which allows someone to not do organic and still get most of the benefits.
Dr. Daniel Nuzum: Right, absolutely.
Jonathan Otto: And then they can come in, add in these extra things, the things that they’re deficient in, make sure
they’re going with a company they trust, but also at the price that is right for them. And so that they don’t do this one
hit thing, that means that people feel better for a month and then next month or a couple of months down the line,
everything’s back again-
Dr. Daniel Nuzum: They’re right back again, right.
Jonathan Otto: And they look back, “Oh, I remember a couple of years ago when I did that thing I felt great but I just
couldn’t keep it up.” And then meanwhile there’s all these problems developing-
Dr. Daniel Nuzum: Exactly.
Jonathan Otto: And stuff just starts falling apart. And that’s something that you want to avoid, and one of the ways
to avoid it is by understanding the mindset that this is not a magic bullet, it’s not a medicine, it’s maintenance and it’s
about keeping your body clean and healthy.
Dr. Daniel Nuzum: This is concentrated food.
Jonathan Otto: Yep.
Dr. Daniel Nuzum: Concentrated food. Exactly.

FASTING
Dr. Alan Goldhamer: Well, the good news is that people can do intermittent fasting safely and effectively. And what
that involves is limiting the feeding window. If the people don’t eat, say breakfast before say 9 and they don’t eat dinner
after say 6, they’re going to be getting 16 hours of fasting. Between 14 and 16 hours of fasting every night and even
that period of fasting is likely to induce metabolic changes that cumulatively may be helpful promoting health and
preventing and reversing disease.
To do longer term water-only fasting, we recommend that be done under direct medical supervision because it can be
an important issue to have appropriate history exam lab and appropriate monitoring to make sure it’s safe and effective.
What we recommend is people try to focus on whole natural foods. So for example they might get up in the morning
and might have some fresh fruit, they might have some oatmeal or simple grain. For lunch and dinner they may have
large vegetable salads, steamed vegetables and complex carbohydrates in the form of grains or beans so they don’t get
to skinny and weak. We often include an ounce a day of rye nuts and seeds and plenty of water. I think that the more
rye and cooked vegetables you can include in the diet the better off you’re going to be. One, it’s our primary source
of fiber, minerals, vitamins and also if you eat enough rye and cooked vegetables, it’s difficult to overeat on anything
else. So it helps in terms of weight maintenance and support.
CLOSING THOUGHTS
Dr. Gabriel Cousens: Though, the important thing is, people should know there’s hope, as they move outside the
allopathic system. There are many areas where we can be successful by changing our diet, by changing our lifestyle.
One thing that I think is important is okay, you can take your aromatherapy or you can take your herb, and it does not...
and it may help, but if it doesn’t change your lifestyle, you’re going to recreate it again. So, to me, the most important
thing is lifestyle change. Change your diet to organic and plant-based only. And as much live food as you can do. And
people get better. Once they get away from GMO food and all the processed food. Health comes back pretty quickly.
Dr. Pam Popper: Oh, people ask, am I too old to feel young again? This is a real public story; I can share it with you.
One of my business partners is Dr. Peter Breggin, really well known psychiatrist. He’s a guy who’s never prescribed,
placed a psychiatric patient on a pharmaceutical drug in 55 years of practice, okay? Amazing. As fabulous as he is about
mental health, he never really paid much attention to biological health. He had asthma, he used to get colds and bugs
all the time, and he took medication for high blood pressure and his wife had ulcerative colitis. He was so focused on
the mental health issue that they really didn’t take care of themselves.
So when Peter was 82, he made the decision to change his diet. He lost 25 pounds; he looks younger now than he did
20 years ago. He’s off his blood pressure medication, off his asthma medication. We have a very specific diet that we
use in our office for people who have inflammatory bowel disease, so his wife no longer has ulcerative colitis. I would
say it’s never too late. I mean... and Peter, he’s like the Energizer bunny. We’re getting ready to go to Denmark for a
conference in Denmark, and you know, it’s an arduous thing. It takes 14 hours to get there and overnight flight and all
kinds of things to do. He’s all excited about it. A lot of of 83-year-old people would be saying, “Oh I don’t know, you have
to walk in the airport ...” Peter’s like, “I can’t wait to go,” and that’s the way you want to be when you’re 83 years old.
Dr. Joel Kahn: It’s funny, the thin threads that cause people to get a moment of clarity and decide to dig in and make
lifestyle changes. Sometimes a relative tells you, a spouse tells you, a physician tells you. You see something on one TV
show, it doesn’t resonate. What I do with smoking in patients in my clinic, every visit, every way, I’m going to approach
it. One time, one of those things might work and they’re an ex-smoker.

I love movies like this, because you just don’t know if it’s one person or 10 people or 1,000 people that this will resonate
and this will reach them to say, “Now’s my time, now’s my responsibility, now’s my opportunity to improve my health
and get back my health span and get rid of disability, illness, medication, surgery, and the medical system.”
Most of that health occurs not in the doctor’s office. It occurs in the grocery store, it occurs in the gym, it occurs in
the farmer’s market, it occurs in your home garden. You can take control of your health. You can see improvements.
You can decide to study, to learn, to change, and to benefit. You can do it inch by inch, because that’s a cinch or yard
by yard, if you want to jump right in. But just don’t wait. Gain back that joy of vitality, that energy, the longevity that is
your natural legacy. You’re willing to do the hard work, you’ll see the benefits. I know that’ll be the case.
Jonathan Otto: So, as you go forward with this empowering information, be encouraged to know that healing is
possible; that our bodies were designed to repair themselves and that even if you have felt discouraged or hopeless
in the past, there is hope. There are simple, yet essential things you can do. You can even start today, right now. You
can take the steps to implement this health advice that you’ve seen so far in this series and you can take the power
back into your own hands.
So much of our health is completely dependent on our own choices, yet the medical industry sometimes causes pa-
tients to feel they have no power or strength; that they are at the mercy of their disease for the rest of their lives. This
is simply not true. We are always making choices that lead to either health or disease; towards healing or damaging
our cells, our vital organs. Those choices are yours today and you can have that strength, that power. Take it back in
your hands and know that you are not alone. There are others out there on this journey with you.

EPISODE 9
TRIGGERS FOR DISEASE: WHAT’S REALLY MAKING YOU SICK?
Jonathan Otto: When it comes to any illness, there are often things that we may be doing or exposing ourselves to
that may be triggering an illness to begin. Things that cause inflammation in our bodies often act as triggers or agi-
tators. Alessio Fasano, MD, released a landmark study in 2009, suggesting that three things must be present for an
autoimmune condition to develop: a genetic predisposition, a trigger, and leaky gut.
There are dietary triggers such as gluten, dairy, meat, GMOs and so on. These can all lead to inflammation and health
issues. But outside of just dietary triggers there are environmental triggers, toxic heavy metal triggers, parasite triggers
and more. Our bodies are constantly being exposed to things that may cause illness. That could sound overwhelming,
but when we take the time to learn what they could be and how to avoid and combat those triggers, we can avoid
those bad health outcomes. When we become complacent and think our choices don’t matter, that’s when we lose
the ability to prevent or reverse disease. In this episode, we are going to dive into some of these triggers, how to avoid
them and how to reverse the effects of them once we’ve been exposed.
INTRO
STEVE V.: PATIENT TESTIMONIAL
Steve V: So back in September of 2014, I started having some eye problems, some symptoms where I had Diplopia.
My eyes were not tracking together. First time that’s ever happened to me in my life. So, I went to a regular physician,
he told me to go to an eye doctor, went to an eye doctor, he told me to go to a regular physician. So, I went to another
physician. They didn’t know what to do. They were giving me some antibiotics thinking it was some sort of infection.
A week later it was getting worse where I was getting dizzy, and I couldn’t walk, I couldn’t see that well. And got on the
phone with an ER. ER told me to go in right away, and that’s a neurological issue of some sort.
Went in, and they did a bunch of tests on me, CAT scans, MRIs. And the neurologist came in and broke the news to me
that I was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis. I was in denial, of course. So, they gave me some medicine to decrease
the inflammation, and stayed in the hospital for four nights. Went home, they gave me a neurologist to go follow up
with. Went to the neurologist, and I was in denial at that time, since I started feeling better. I didn’t take their advice
and take any medicine. We said that we’re going to do another MRI in three months to see if there were any additional
lesions, because there was a lesion on my brain and that’s what caused the Diplopia, which is a common symptom
for Multiple Sclerosis.
INFLAMMATION
WHICH OILS ARE GOOD FOR WHAT AILMENT?
Jeff Styba: So from a fundamental immune support in the essential oil world, you of course kind of look, what we’ve
talked about earlier, is that citrus oils for detox because if you have cancer, you’re not detoxing properly. So citrus
oils for detox. Frankincense, copaiba, myrrh for the neurologic, for the brain, for the nervous system health. Because
if you have cancer, your body’s not healing properly in that area and the nerve system is what heals. So, if you’re not

addressing the nervous system if you have cancer, you’re likely never going to heal from that cancer or it may go away
periodically, but it will always come back.
So, we have to address the nervous system and then from an inflammation standpoint, we want to use essential oils
that are going to bring healthy levels of inflammation in our body because high inflammation is high acid and that
genetically modifies our DNA which then causes abnormal cell growth. So, then we want to use the essential oils that
are going to promote healthy levels of inflammation and in fact, this is really amazing, how most every single essen-
tial oil supports healthy levels of inflammation in our bodies. So, if you just accidentally use an oil, you’re going to do
yourself a great favor for your levels of inflammation in your body.
INFLAMMATION & BRAIN HEALTH
Jonathan Otto: So, looking at brain health here, this problem that we’re just talking about, what’s causing it?
Dr. Olivia Joseph: Well, we’re going to say inflammation, right? The issue is the inflammation isn’t just coming from
one source. Right now, we’re about to pass a new diagnosis called type 3 diabetes, and it’s diabetic dementia. We
see dementia affecting people at earlier and earlier ages and stages. So, there’s so many different things that cause
inflammation in the brain. Yes, there are some things with diet; there are some things with toxins; there are things
with gut. I mean, the way wheat, grains, gluten, is attacking the brain now is nothing like it was 30, 40, 50 years ago.
So, I have people say to me all the time, “Well, my ancestors smoked, and they ate wheat, and they drank whiskey.” I’m
like, “Yeah, but, the wheat you eat, the cigarettes you smoke, and the whiskey you drink is not what it was 50 and 100
years ago.” We’re being exposed to so many toxins, and these toxins are toxic to our brain, as well as other systems
of our body. If I had to sum it up in one word it’s inflammation.
Steve V.: So, three months later I went to the neurologist, did another MRI, went to this neurologist that was I was
assigned to, and she said that there was another lesion, and it’s guaranteed Multiple Sclerosis, and I need to go on
medication immediately and take shots to my belly, which will give me... which will suppress my immune system to
not trigger these events for MS. At that time, I was at a close friend that was also a physician, and told me, “There’s no
need for you to do the medicine right away. Why don’t you go see this guy?” And he referred me to Dr. Kahn.
So, went to Dr. Kahn, and he says, “This is a common thing that people call MS, but in reality it’s a gut issue. And we got
to correct the gut. And not trigger an immune response to be on lower alert. Your immune system is doing what it’s
supposed to be doing, and it’s triggering... seeing some foreign objects in your body, and it’s triggering these effects. So,
what we have to do is bring your immune system, from it being on high alert up here, and bring it down here. So, we
got to calm it down. First thing we have to do is change your diet, second thing we got to do is help treat your body with
the certain supplements that food is not giving you, to help bring your immune system to a lower degree of defense.
GRAINS — GLUTEN AS A TRIGGER
Jonathon Otto: Gluten, the protein in wheat, has been known to be a trigger for multiple diseases, especially auto-
immune diseases. Gluten affects your body in four main ways. It damages the gut microbiome, triggers leaky gut,
ignites a process known as molecular mimicry, and produces inflammation. These processes all work in conjunction.
When the gluten damages the microbiome, it creates holes in the lining of the gut that is formed by the microbiome.
Food particles, particularly gluten are able to slip through those holes into your body. The proteins from the gluten
mimic or have a similar molecular structure to cells in your body, which creates an immune response, not only against
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the gluten, but against your body’s own cells, such as thyroid cells. This produces chronic inflammation, which can
perpetuate the symptoms. This process can spread to other parts of the body as well. This is why people with leaky
gut often have more than one autoimmune condition. It’s important to take the time to learn the effects that gluten
consumption can have so that you have the opportunity to reverse those effects.
There are also dietary triggers as well that need to be explored so that you can be sure that you are not inducing these
processes in the body. But instead, that you can eat foods that create good health and build immunity.
GRAINS — GLUTEN — TRIGGER OR NOT?
Jonathan Otto: And then people debate and say that the grains are bad, and they say that humans aren’t meant to
eat grains and they’re harmful for people because it’s proven or something of that nature. Let’s go into that debate.
You obviously don’t think so, but why is that?
Dr. Ayesha Sherzai: Well, I think with current times there’s always a concern about agriculture and how these grains
are grown. But when you look at the history of food and how people ate, grains were a major source of calories in our
diet. When you look at third world countries, when you look at places in the world where people live the longest and
have... they’re healthy, when you look at the Blue Zones, people include grains in their diet all the time.
GRAINS — GOOD OR BAD? — WHAT’S THE ALTERNATIVE?
Dr. Ayesha Sherzai: We’re not talking about how grains are processed in the United States. But in most of our history,
it has been a major portion of our diet. And from the studies that we have, from the epidemiological studies, whole
grains actually have been associated with better health, lower risk of cardiovascular disease, lower risk of stroke, and
lower risk of Alzheimer’s disease.
And I think it’s because when people have excluded grains from their diet completely, instead of being wise and in-
cluding healthier food items, they’ve completely included other unhealthy items. And that’s the problem. When you
negate an entire food group from your plate, you tend to always bring something that is available and unfortunately,
in the case of whole grains, people have included a lot of meats and a lot of other sources of saturated fats. And yes,
there might be people who disagree that saturated fats are bad for you and there are a lot of people who negate that
cholesterol is a source of inflammation in the body.
Steve V.: So, that made sense to me. So, I did not do the traditional therapy of shots to suppress my immune system.
What I want to do is treat the gut, according to what Dr. Kahn said. And I took some vitamins, changed my diet, con-
tinued to go visit the neurologist every six months, just to do scans to verify that what I was doing was working to
make sure I didn’t have anymore lesions causing anymore damage that could be permanent. So, every three... the
first year it was every three months, I would go back to the neurologist. First I would do a scan, then go back to the
neurologist to review the scans. The first one, after the second MRI that I did, so my third MRI, there were no lesions.
She still recommended that I do the therapy, and she warned me that if I don’t do the therapy, that I’m going to have
additional lesions.
I may have some numbness inside my body, I may have some eye damage. She was trying to scare me into taking
the drugs. And she’s like, “If you don’t do any sort of therapy, you’re going to get sick again.” And I told her, “But I am
doing therapy.” And I told her what I was doing with Dr. Kahn, and with the vitamins the food I was doing. She said,
“That’s not therapy.” It is.

You think she was actually trying to scare you?
Oh, she was absolutely trying to scare me. It’s what they’re trained to do. They go to school to prescribe drugs, so that’s
exactly what she was doing. And she was doing her job, but what Dr. Kahn did was he educated me to understand what
we could do in order to treat naturally, or to treat the problem. Not naturally, just treating the problem. The problem
was, number one, I did an allergy test with Dr. Kahn, to see what I was allergic to. So, there was a couple things that I
was allergic to that I didn’t even know I was allergic to. So, what allergies do, it causes inflammation in your body. So,
tapioca and some other types of foods I was allergic to.
We did a celiac test, I’m not celiac. But I still stay away from gluten because it’s a GMO type of product that sometimes
your body can react to, might not show up in a celiac test. So, I still stay away from it. So, after the third visit, she told
me that. I still denied medication. Three months later, I did another test, still my MRI showed clear. I was losing some
weight, I felt better than I ever have been before. Then she said, “Okay, come back six months from now. We’ll do
another test.”
MEAT & DAIRY AS A TRIGGER
ARE THERE HEALTHY MEATS? IN COMPARISON TO WHAT?
Dr. Ayesha Sherzai: So those small incremental changes actually have .... so, as far as data is concerned, we have
plenty and I don’t think there is any doubt that a diet that is whole food, plant based is better. And again, you know
when people ask me questions like, what about fish? And I say, well compared to what? Fish is much better compared
to red meat. It’s much better compared to chicken. But is it any better than lentils and beans? Probably not. Is it better
than some greens and beans as an option? Probably not. So, it’s a spectrum of food and for people to understand
where they are and where they decide to be, whether they want to be in the area where you have all your unprocessed
organic vegetables and fruits and nuts and seeds or highly processed and high sources of animal protein and animal
fats. It’s a decision that they have to make.
CHOLESTEROL & FATS AS A TRIGGER
CHOLESTEROL AND SATURATED FATS — ALZHEIMER’S
Dr. Ayesha Sherzai: As far as research and data is concerned, it’s quite clear. Cholesterol and saturated fats are asso-
ciated with stroke, with cardiovascular diseases and Alzheimer’s diseases. You look at studies from back in the 1990s
when Dr Paul Giam in Loma Linda looked at vegetarians and non-vegetarians in the Adventist health study. It was quite
clear that people who didn’t eat a vegetarian diet and excluded grains and ate mostly meat-based diet, including chicken
and fish, they actually had twice the risk of developing Alzheimer’s disease compared to those who are vegetarians.
HEART DISEASE PREVENTION — SIMPLE SEVEN
Dr. Kim Williams: So, Jonathan, I always say that I’m not an expert on what to eat. I’m more of a student of what not
to eat. Okay. If you listen to any of the talks that I give, it’s really talking about avoiding processed meat because that
is the most deadly thing that we have, according to published studies. But other animal products as well, anything
that increases cholesterol, anything that provides a source of saturated fat, anything that gives animal blood products,
which would have a so-called heme iron, and the development of Trimethylamine N-oxide.
That TMAO word may sound fancy, but over the next few years, everyone’s going to know what that is because they
will have had their test done. Developed by investigators at the Cleveland Clinic. It’s a substance that correlates if not
causes a heart attack, stroke, death, heart failure. If it wasn’t for those four things, it would be great. But it really is a
burden of cardiovascular disease that can be avoided, apparently if you keep that level low.
So, how do we do that? We actually need to change to a whole food plant-based diet, for almost everyone. I think
there are some people who are genetic we pre-programmed to not have cardiovascular disease. Probably the most
recent example, the PCSK9 mutation. That fancy set of words says that the person is pre-programmed to have a very
low cholesterol, and they can get away with the type of diet that you and I probably can’t.
But, if you’re not pre-programmed to avoid heart disease, you have the average American genetics, you really need to
avoid the kinds of foods that will raise your serum cholesterol level, lead to the TMAO, the heme iron, the saturated
fat, all of which compile together to make plaque arteries, leading to heart attack, stroke, and death, and even heart
failure. Heart failure mechanisms are quite varied, in terms of the relationship between nutrition and the development
of poor functioning of the heart, all of which can be improved by whole food plant-based diet.
HIGH CHOLESTEROL — HIGHER RISK OF DEMENTIA
Dr. Ayesha Sherzai: When you look at the Kaiser-Permanente Northern California study, almost 10,000 individuals
followed for many years. People who had high cholesterol levels actually had a higher risk for dementia compared to
those who had low cholesterol. And even moderate levels of cholesterol in their mid-life actually increased their risk for
dementia. And what decreases cholesterol levels? Whole grains do. So, there is a relationship between consumption of
whole grains and lower cholesterol, lower saturated fat consumption, and lower risk of Alzheimer’s disease and stroke.
Jonathan Otto: That’s fascinating. I think that certainly not getting talked about enough. I feel like there’s a lot of dis-
information when you step into this, autoimmune and brain health has become one of these issues, too, where a lot
of diets have been shown to be the solution, but we don’t really have any data to prove long term what’s the effect of
a Paleo diet that has high meat intake or a ketogenic diet that has high meat intake. So, I think it’s really good to agree
on the things we can agree on. But unfortunately, the way most people enact these things is they understand grains
are the devil and grass-fed beef is fantastic. When the reality of grass-fed beef is that it’s not actually grass fed as well.
It’s only grass fed for a certain time unless it’s grass finished and then most people aren’t getting that.
Dr. Ayesha Sherzai: Right.
Jonathan Otto: Chickens are grain fed. The list just keeps going. They’re really just getting back to these toxic sources.
Going to nontoxic, organic, ancient grains that are non-genetically modified or genetically tampered with in any way,
which we qualify as, even though it’s not technically qualified as a GMO. You have yeah, you have this misinformation.
You have people misguided. The principles are correct. We’re looking for nontoxic food sources. We’re all looking for
the same thing. But we’re actually being given something that isn’t effective, that hasn’t been proven, and you’re citing
that in some of the studies you’re bringing up here that most people aren’t aware of when it comes to this topic. I mean,
I’ve talked to people that have interviewed me, specifically on brain health, and it was like I just turned on a light bulb
when I said, “Do you realize that the societies that we’re studying that have actually the results that we’re looking for,
are low animal intake diets.” And it was as if I had just said something that was like you know I was questioning the
fundamental nature of humanity. But they were grateful. I mean, that was fantastic.
Steve V.: Went back six months, did another MRI before I went to visit her. Now she started asking questions. About
what I was eating, about what kind of supplements I was taking. What kind of exercise I do, which doctors I see, and

which doctor I saw and then she told me to come back another six months, let’s do another test, and then after that
we’ll do a year. Year after year tests.
So, six months later, went back. And she also said, at the time, “I’m glad you’re feeling better. This is very interesting.
There are studies that show that certain diet and supplements can help with MS symptoms.” And it wasn’t just symp-
toms, I wasn’t showing anything in my MRIs either, as far as lesions were concerned. So, she started taking notes about
that. And she said, “The only problem is, it’s very difficult to do a study on diet and supplements because we cannot
monitor people that are... what they’re eating every day. Because somebody could eat something, think they’re on a
certain diet, but they could have... there’s hidden food, stuff in food. Certain types of meats that people may eat that
may have some antibiotics in them that you’re not aware of at a restaurant. So, there’s certain... it’s very difficult to
study that affect.”
And this is the neurologist that’s telling me this. So, haven’t been back to her. Never needed to, and it’s been almost
five years now and I’m still on the same diet. I thought it was going to be very difficult for me to stay away from certain
bread and certain desserts and stuff, but it’s a lifestyle. If I want to walk, if I want to play baseball with my kids, I’m
going to do this. I’m going to stay on this certain diet and feel good, and not worry about having a lesion or if I’m going
to be in a wheelchair in a few years from now.
I used to be on cholesterol medication, I’m not on that anymore. I lost 20 pounds being in this diet. I feel better. Like I
said, I can play baseball with my kids where I wasn’t able to before. Being 20 pounds heavier and not feeling that well,
short of breath and whatnot. All the way around, it was a godsend that maybe this happened to me because number
one, I feel better. My father passed away at 38 years old from a massive heart attack, so heart disease and cholesterol
were something important to me. So, this also helped me with that. I’m 46 years old now. If I hadn’t gotten maybe
that diagnosis, or haven’t run into Dr. Kahn, I may have been down a different path. I may have, and taken those... I
would’ve been on that medication for four years now. If I hadn’t found Dr. Kahn.
And that medication, what it does is it suppresses your immune system, and it’s only a 20 to 30% success ratio of it
working. And I don’t understand how they would come up with that conclusion of it being a 20 to 30% success ratio
because they don’t know what everyone’s eating. The success ratio could be working only because people have done
a certain diet, or they lost some weight and now their immune system’s working lighter for them and not working as
hard. That could be the reasons why, and the medication might not do anything for them.
HIGH CHOLESTEROL — HIGHER RISK OF DEMENTIA
Dr. Ayesha Sherzai: And as far as meats are concerned, saturated fats, animal proteins, they’ve all been associated
with high amounts of inflammation and oxidation in the brain. And when you look at studies coming back from the
1960s and 70s, we have clear evidence that people who eat higher amounts of saturated fats, which are found in
red meat, chicken and even fish, regardless of whether they were grass-fed or grain fed, that’s not even a concern.
Saturated fat in itself is actually associated with damage to brain cells and to the arteries and the vessels that provide
oxygen and nutrition to brain cells.
And once people actually get rid of it, they’re able to heal their brain. They’re able to give the right environment for the
brain to thrive and grow and heal itself. And so, study after study, whether it’s the Women’s Health Study in Boston,
whether it’s the Adventist Health Study from Loma Linda, whether it’s the Rush University coming up with their studies
showing the Mind Diet, or the Mediterranean diet. I was involved in a study here in California, the California Teachers
Study. A little more than 133,000 followed for about 25 years. They filled out questionnaires and I wanted to find out
what was the association between diet and stroke. I was intrigued by the concept of Mediterranean diet because
whenever somebody talks about Mediterranean diet, there’s a misconception that there should be a slab of fish and
maybe a glass of wine.
OTHER TRIGGERS
CAFFEINE — GLUTEN
Dr. Daniel Fenster: Something that I hear often when people change their diet a little bit and add that kind of sup-
plementation, as someone ages, CoQ10 can be another one that’s important, it’s that people have more energy, and
everybody wants more energy. I’ve never heard a person come in and say, “You know what? I want less energy.” That
has never happened in 35 years of practicing. I guess maybe it could one day, but it hasn’t happened yet. Everybody
wants more energy. It’s one of the reasons, I think, we’re an over-caffeinated society. Definitely people will get more
energy as a result of cleaning up their diet and adding supplementation. I don’t think you’re going to cure any specific
disease with those few supplements but adding to health and wellness is what everybody should want, and I think is
moving towards in this country. Health and wellness are sweeping the country.
Slight changes can sometimes make huge differences. One of the things that I’ve always done is I’ve experimented
with myself. Nothing crazy but trying certain supplements for 30 days and seeing how that made me feel. I encourage
people to do that as well. I tell my patients to experiment with themselves. Go off, for example, gluten or caffeine for
30 days, and see how you feel. Be your own Petri dish and make your own decisions about what you think is best for
you in your life.
HEAVY METAL TOXICITY AS A TRIGGER
Jonathon Otto: There are other triggers besides dietary triggers. This includes things such as heavy metals, pesticides,
GMOs, airborne chemicals, vaccines, dental fillings, medications and radiation. It may seem impossible to protect
ourselves from this onslaught of health-altering agents, but it is possible to significantly reduce our exposure and
subsequent damage from these things. When our liver and gallbladder is congested with heavy metals, it can be hard
for our body to process any incoming toxins, since these organs are a key part of our filtration system. Heavy metals
can accumulate in various places in the body, even in the brain where they can cause untold amounts of damage and
lead to Alzheimer’s, dementia, and neurological issues. Because of this precaution need to be taken, as well as proto-
cols implemented in order to flush the body of heavy metals and toxins.
HEAVY METALS IN THE BRAIN
Jonathan Otto: What would you say about metals in the brain?
Dr. Olivia Joseph: I think... Well, so we know metals accumulate in nervous system tissue so it’s a problem. Again, it’s
a problem with what we allow. We allow metals into food sources, into deodorants, into cookware, right? We absorb
these toxins. We are exposed to huge amount of toxins as far as metals are concerned. I think certain people are
more prone to metal toxicity than others. Maybe it has to do with their gut health, their genes, their detox pathways,
things of that nature. So, not everybody who gets exposed to a metal is going to have the same response, right? But,
we know metals are poisonous. That’s why it’s called metal toxicity. Not all metals, but certain metals are more toxic,
like mercury, aluminum, particularly toxic to the brain.
Jonathan Otto: Yeah, absolutely. Thank you. The biggest offenders, you mention two. Any other major offenders with
the heavy metal?

Dr. Olivia Joseph: Of course.
Jonathan Otto: Which ones come to mind?
Dr. Olivia Joseph: The two biggest exposures are in vaccines and in mercury amalgams. Believe it or not, people still
have mercury amalgams. A lot of dentists aren’t putting them in, but if you don’t have them removed properly you’re
getting re-exposed. Mercury can cross the blood-brain barrier. So, for example, if I’m pregnant and I have a mercury
amalgam removed it can cross the blood-brain barrier to my fetus. Well, if my fetus is born and she has high levels
of mercury and someday she gets pregnant she can pass that to her fetus. So, it’s very hard to get out of the body,
so we have to be very conscious of how much we allow into our body, into our environment, and into life in general.
VACCINES AND MEDICATIONS AS A TRIGGER?
Jonathan Otto: Firstly, what were the conditions that you had? What was the diagnosis? What did that look like for
you in your life?
Maria Whalen: It is years and years of that erosion happening. I had all the general diagnoses that we tend to in our
culture overlook or think they’re not the big ones. In my perspective now, those are the big ones.
When you get what we call the big diagnosis now, that’s the end result, that’s the end all. Your body was trying to
communicate, screaming at you for a long time. I spent 10 years with that. I was a boxer when I was young so the way
I looked; you look physically fit. Everybody assumes you’re healthy, and all the things behind the scenes that were
happening, and the breakdowns and that kind of thing.
I had spent years going through that gamut of, “You have this, and you have that. You have this.” Then as things got
worse because I didn’t listen and I didn’t take care of those, that’s when I got things like lupus, and Behcet’s, and
Schwannomatosis, and crazy words that most people don’t know and even most doctors that I would go to had to go,
“What’s that one?”
The hope is really in when we ditched the diagnosis, so I don’t focus too much on that.
Jonathan Otto: What were the culprits for you?
Maria Whalen: It’s always all the same culprits.
Jonathan Otto: What were they for you?
Maria Whalen: It’s always like-
Jonathan Otto: What did you do wrong?
Maria Whalen: There was so much, obviously. I mean, this is where I... you have to read between the lines a little bit,
obviously. On the Western side the things I was doing were very toxic.
Jonathan Otto: Like what?
Maria Whalen: Medications. Stuff like that.
Jonathan Otto: Like what?
Maria Whalen: Lots of them. Through the process.
Jonathan Otto: Why?
Maria Whalen: Whether it was starting with antibiotics when I was young, you’re making me say words that I don’t
like saying. You know, the things we inject ourselves with, the things we swallow, that kind of stuff, right? So, it’s a
predisposition. It sets your body up. Then you add stress to that and it’s the perfect storm. You add chemicals that
you’re eating, chemicals you’re putting in your body, chemicals you’re breathing, all that kind of stuff, right? Like now,
to this day, if you walk into my house there’s not one chemical. What you see on my body from my hair color to my
makeup to my skin, everything, not a chemical. I don’t touch chemicals, right? But we go through, just so mechanically
nowadays, we don’t even pay attention. I know exactly what kind of water I’m drinking and what I’m drinking it out of.
What’s in it. The radiation around me from cell phones, I mean there’s so many.
PESTICIDES — GMOS
GMOS
Dr. Jeffrey Bland: So, when I think about the genetic model modulation, we know that plants naturally, over time, had
been undergoing genetic hybridization. The pollen from one shifts to another. You get this whole nature of natural
selection occurring, but that smooths itself over centuries, of time to create these new species and new varieties.
Genetic engineering, GMO, is a very different situation in which we go in and we pick a gene that we want to modify,
we insert an alternative gene and then we grow that particular to seed and then use that as our crop. We say we know
a lot about that because we have put markers in there that tell us if any promiscuous activity would occur when we
put that gene in. But the more we learn about genetics, and I won’t go through a long winded diatribe on this, but just
to say we thought we knew a lot more than we really do because as we start to get deeper into the understanding of
our book of life, our genome, we recognize it’s not just one gene at a time, these genes are interacting and communi-
cating and it’s even the epigene and it’s even things that are not even coded in our genome, the so-called non-coding
or dark matter of our genome.
And by the way, 97% of the genetic information in our genome does not code for anything, it’s not part of our genetic
inheritance as we know it to code for a protein. So, what is it there for? People used to call it junk DNA because they
didn’t know what to do with it. I... 30 years ago, I said, “Be very cautious calling this junk because we’re going to come
back to learn it’s not junk, it’s there for a purpose,” and it has been found now that this dark matter, what used to be
called junk DNA, is actually where a lot of the information is encoded that controls how our genes are signaled and
how they’re expressed as families. They’re not expressed one at a time. So, the master operator actually turns out to
be upstream and that’s where we start to see the problem when we start futzing with nature.
So now we recognize that what’s happening when we start tampering with nature by inserting a gene synthetically is
that we’re having much more potential effects on the overall signaling of the genome than just that gene itself. This
is kind of still a mystery box. We don’t know all the subtleties that are occurring that would regulate over time how
that whole organism functions.
So I think that sometimes what we don’t know, we kind of diminish or minimize and we don’t think it’s of big significance
until later, we find out and some new investigators years later say, “How were you so stupid to do that when you didn’t
understand this and you did certain things?”

EATING ORGANIC — PESTICIDES
Dr. Vandana Shiva: If you look at cancer, it has become an epidemic. It is also known scientifically that only 5% of
cancers are genetically based. Yet all the research is on genetic cures for cancer, when we know that 95% come from
poisons in our food. We’ve done a book called Poisons in Our Food, and the big three cancer clusters in India are
Punjab, which is the land of the green revolution where the pesticides are most heavily used, and there’s a cancer
train that leaves Punjab for treatment in the desert of Rajasthan because there’s a free hospital for cancer treatment.
Bhopal, where the 1984 disaster happened, and northern Kerala where endosulfan, which was a persistent organic
phosphate was sprayed on cashew plantations.
Then of course you have wherever there’s intensity of use of pesticides. There’s research all over the place, wherever
there’s more use of Roundup, there are both more cancers and more kidney failure. Sri Lanka found hundreds of
thousands of people in the rice paddies with kidney failure. 14,000 died. They asked the government scientists to
study. They selected out everything else except Roundup. The government of Sri Lanka banned Roundup. Honduras
and the sugar cane plantations, similar things were found. Eventually the cover up by industry was, oh, they died of
dehydration. Hundreds of thousands of kidney failure because of water?
ORGANIC — DIRTY DOZEN
Dr John Dempster: I think we’ve got to be very careful about the types of foods that we’re purchasing. I do believe
that organic is better for you. Now, I know it’s not always easy to be 100%. I don’t firmly suggest that, anyways. Be
as good as you can. There’s a great list of foods out there called the dirty dozen if you ever want to look up. They’re
going to give you the ones that you really want to focus on consuming as much organic as possible because, if we’re
bringing in these endocrine disruptors and these neuroendocrine disruptors, that’s where a lot of these compounds
and these chemicals are doing that are riddled not only on our food, but sometimes in our food, such as some of the
animal products. We’ve got to really be careful about consuming those on a regular basis.
EATING ORGANIC - BALANCE
Ocean Robbins: Environmental Working Group has looked at pesticide residues in foods and they developed a list of
what they call the dirty dozen most pesticide contaminated foods and also the clean 15 least pesticide contaminated
foods they update this list every year. And what’s interesting is that not all foods carry pesticide residues even when
they’re grown commercially. But some do. Berries are particularly susceptible to carrying pesticide residues in general
the rule of thumb is that the least pesticide contaminated foods are those that have a shell of some kind around the
outside. So, if you’re going with avocados or mangoes or even papayas or melons and you’re not even skin then that’s
a good opportunity if you’re trying to save some money too. From a pesticide exposure standpoint to go with the
nonorganic option and still not have a lot of exposure for yourself
THE EFFECTS OF GMO’S
Jeffrey Smith: You know, there’s more than 30 diseases and disorders that are rising in parallel with the increased
use of GMOs and Roundup, and among them are deaths from senile dementia, incidence of senile dementia, deaths
from Alzheimer’s, as well as anxiety, suicide by overdose, schizophrenia, etc.
Now, it turns out that there are direct plausible causal pathways that can lead to these things. If you just have the chart
alone, that’s just correlation. You can’t prove anything. But as Dr. David Perlmutter says in our film, Secret Ingredients,
you can connect the dots between the gut and the brain, and when the gut bacteria is wonky and there’s inflammation
and leaky gut a- because of GMOs and Roundup, then you end up having the kind of inflammation in the brain that
can cause problems. Glyphosate can cause... Glyphosate is the chief toxin in Round-, in Roundup. It’s been shown to
create the leaky gut in a Petri dish. It’s been shown to be an antibiotic. It’s patented as an antibiotic, and it kills the
beneficial bacteria, which can then create the gut dysbiosis, and between the leaky gut and the gut dysbiosis, that can
create inflammation, and, again, now you have the brain inflammation.
So yeah, the brain... The, the gut-brain barrier makes that very easy, but we can go even further, because glyphosate
has been bragged about by the Roundup maker, Monsanto, now Bayer, as stopping the shikimate pathway, which is
used by plants. And they said because humans don’t have the shikimate pathway, Roundup is safe. Well, Roundup is
not safe for many reasons, but we do have the shikimate pathway being used by our gut bacteria to produce the pre-
cursors of serotonin, melatonin, and dopamine. If that gets shut down, and we don’t have enough of these precursors,
we may end up with deficiencies. Similarly, uh, serotonin making cells along the gut wall require an interaction with
gut bacteria, which may be damaged by glyphosate’s antibiotic properties.
So, there’s two ways that it can be damaging for serotonin, which can lead to melatonin, or one way that it can be dam-
aging to dopamine. And these can explain, for example, the cognitive problems, the anxiety, depression, insomnia, and
sleep disorders, which are also correlated. That could be the melatonin. Pain. So, these are described as the feel-good
chemicals, and they may be in short supply when you’re eating foods that have been doused with Roundup or GMOs.
EATING ORGANIC — NEUROLOGICAL PROBLEMS AND PESTICIDES
Dr. Vandana Shiva: Neurological problems. The figures are so clear. One in 260,000 American kids used to have
autism. It has jumped to one in 45, and according to all research, the graph is growing so fast that one in two kids
will have autism. Of course, it’s a cocktail, because none of these problems come separately. When you are growing a
Roundup ready corn or soya, you’re also spraying Roundup, so it is the GMO and the Roundup together. It’s not just
the GMO and the Roundup. There are all the hundreds of other pesticides, and they’ve never been assessed together.
Neurological problems are exploding. I’ve grown up with 100 year olds who still have total memory. Anyone passing
60 now has dementia. Where is this decay of our mind and our body coming from? It’s coming both from the direct
assault of instruments of war, because that’s what these chemicals are. They were designed for war. As well as a de-
liberate attempt to not allow us to know our bodies, our minds, our being, our place on this earth.
TRIGGERS
Jonathan Otto: Awesome, man. What are the specific triggers in the things that people are putting in that are causing
these problems?
Dr John Dempster: I think the most important place to start is the food that we’re putting on our plate in the sense
of refined carbs. They’re so massive. All the processed foods, all the foods that are riddled with fungicides, herbicides,
pesticides, genetically-modified organisms, all these things that are in the majority of our common foodstuffs right
now. This is a big deal, and it’s posing a massive problem for a lot of people.
Steve V.: Well, Dr. Kahn came to me and said, “Listen, they call this MS. But I think we have to treat the gut. And if you
want to, if this doesn’t, for some reason, work for you, which I think it will” is what he told me, “You could always do the
meds. You could always go back to them. There’s nothing wrong with that. But try this out, see how it works. And if it
works, good for you. Great. You don’t have to take medication.” Her approach was, “This is not going to work. You’ve
got to take this med, these meds, otherwise something’s going to happen to you. Three months, six months from now,

you may need a cane, you may need a wheelchair. You may have episodes every three to six months, or maybe once
every eight months or so”, is what she was warning me on.
So, that was her approach, wanting to give me the meds. Because again, that’s what she was taught. Dr. Kahn had
more knowledge. If they taught this to doctors, there would probably be many different people not suffering, or not
needing to take meds. So, the pharmaceutical industry is supplying these studies with a bunch of money so they can
create their drugs, and so they can sell them to make money. So, it doesn’t make sense for us to listen to those studies
100% of the time. Granted, we need pharmaceuticals. If there’s infections and stuff like that, we need to do certain
things like that, but for certain things like this, autoimmune issues, you need to look at different approaches.
EATING ORGANIC — BALANCE
Ocean Robbins: The way I look at it is that going organic is a wonderful step to take for your health if you want to
avoid neurotoxic pesticides fungicides herbicides Gwaii phosphate all kinds of other toxins but don’t let the perfect
become the enemy of the good because we have a lot of studies in the medical literature showing people getting
tremendous benefits from eating whole plant foods and most of those studies were done on people who were not
eating organically growing whole plant foods. So, the reality is you can get tremendous benefit by moving in a whole
foods plant based direction and if you can go the next step and you can afford to go organic you’ll probably get even
more benefit. But if you’re choosing between organic donuts and nonorganic kale go for the kale.
CONTROL & CORRUPTION
Dr. Patrick Gentempo: My view on this is going to be different than what you’re getting from most of the people you’re
interviewing. And what I mean by that is we can get into the weeds saying people are affected by diet, they’re affected
by GMOs, they’re affected by the environment that they’re eating and putting into their bodies. They’re affected by the
toxins in vaccines and they’re affected by polluted air. They’re affected by bad water. They’re affected by all of these
things. They’re affected by medical interventions. They’re affected by all the pharmaceuticals that they’re on constantly.
They’re affected by the toxicity that’s in their body. Generally, I’d say they’re affected by three things. Physical stresses,
how they use their body or don’t use it. Biochemical stresses, what they put into their body. And psychological stresses
which we talk about this mind/body connection which is maybe the worst of them all. So generically, I’d put them in
those buckets, but I’ll tell what I think they’re most affected by is a bad philosophy or a lack of a healthcare philosophy.
ENVIRONMENT AS A TRIGGER
Jonathan Otto: Thank you. I know some of the other, cadmium is one, and then we have, yeah, aluminum which does
have that ability to-
Dr. Olivia Joseph: Right, right.
Jonathan Otto: It’s a ...
Dr. Olivia Joseph: Sure.
Jonathan Otto:... carrier into the brain. Some people even believe the issues with chemtrails, if they do exist... It’s
quite a thought, it’s going to get into our food now. You’re talking about airborne substances, because what some of
the studies and evidence that’s out is that some of the things that are being sprayed they say that’s it’s to control fields
and agriculture, but aluminum being one and barium, and ...
Dr. Olivia Joseph: So, when you talk about cadmium, right, so cadmium is. We find it a lot in smoke, so we breathe it
in, and we get exposed to it.
Jonathan Otto: Interesting.
Dr. Olivia Joseph: Another one is a lot of water-sources are fluoridated. Well, fluoride is toxic to the thyroid, right?
But, you don’t know how toxic it’s going to be to one person versus another, because we have different levels of gut
health, different detox pathways, so there’s a lot of factors to consider
WATER
Ocean Robbins: You want to have a good source of water. You want to have a clean source of water which is why I
recommend having some kind of a water filter in most cases so that you can you can have clean water right out of the
tap. Bottled water is not your friend.
Dr. Olivia Joseph: They’re looking in Europe, and so much of what it is, is in America is we’ve allowed a lot of this into
our food system, and there are many things that we have in our food and water systems that are banned in some
of these other countries, so we’re not going to get ahead of the curve until we clean up not just our food but our en-
vironment, how we grow our food, manufacture our food, and we have to stop allowing these neurotoxins into our
environment. That’s a huge problem.
ENVIRONMENTAL TRIGGERS — RADIATION
Theodora Scarato: So, as scientists are ringing the alarm bell, there are over 200 scientists who have signed up to an
appeal, a moratorium, to appeal that there be a moratorium on 5G and we consider this one of the environmental
issues of our time because wireless is one of the fastest growing environmental pollutants right now in the last decade,
and it’s saturating all of our lives. Everywhere. I mean, when I talk about this, people say, “Oh, but it’s everywhere.
What? You’re talking about wifi? My cellphone? I can’t live without it.” Even babies in the grocery store are being handed
devices to play with. You’re saying what?
But what people don’t know, which is what I found out and how I got interested in this is that cellphones and wifi were
never pre market tested for safety before they came out, for long term safety, for safety for children, and there’s no
post market surveillance and the science and the groups who are involved in this issue are dominated by industry and
military, and the EPA was defunded from setting proper federal safety limits where they said what is a safe level. No
ones ever even figured that out. In fact, the research shows we haven’t identified a safe level because there are effects
at levels hundreds of thousands of times lower than what the government is allowing.
ENVIRONMENTAL TRIGGERS
Leah Parks: Well definitely air pollution from burning fossil fuels and biofuels, and from combustion, is the second
leading cause of death in the world. And there is an increase in autoimmune diseases that we’re seeing, and what’s
causing them. You know, whether it’s burning of fossil fuels, whether it’s other chemicals that we’re being exposed to.

Like there’s fire retardants in our furniture. There are pesticides in our food. There’s just a lot of different chemicals
we’re being exposed to right now. So, I think we need to work on identifying the chemicals that are harming us.
Our kids are having more allergies too. Everybody has allergies now to something, and I remember when I was a kid in
the 70s and the 80s, very few kids had allergies. There was maybe a child that suffered from allergies and had asthma
or illness, but now it seems like every other kid has either very severe and life-threatening allergies, to just mild hay
fever or something of the sort.
So, I haven’t looked into all of the details of what’s causing that, but I do know burning fossil fuels is causing asthma
and cancer, and bronchial illness, and other illnesses that we know. And we know if we clean our air, if we stop burning
fossil fuels in our cars, we’re going to clean up our cities. If we stop burning fossil fuels for our electricity, that we’re
going to clean the air as well
Theodora Scarato: So, with 5G, they’re going to be using all the wireless frequencies that are microwaves, radio fre-
quencies that are in use now. And these are information carrying waves. They’re waves that carry the data on them.
They’re different than analog. Digital pulsed waves with information on them that’s all going through our bodies as
we sit in a room surrounded by wireless and they’re adding in new types of frequencies that have never been used
before, millimeter waves and sub millimeter waves, which have previously been tested by our government for use
as military weapons because they’re used for crowd control, dispersing crowds because at high power, it makes your
skin feel like it’s on fire because it penetrates the skin in a unique way.
Leah Parks: I want to say that as a consumer, in the residential and commercial sectors, that we can have an impact,
that 40% I think, upwards of 40% of our greenhouse gases come from the residential and commercial sector, from
electricity, and from our heating and our cooling. And we as consumers can solve heating, can help reduce natural gas.
Natural gas is a major polluter, both for greenhouse gas and for carbon dioxide and for methane. And we can as well as
electric vehicles, we can also solve nine percent of the greenhouse gas problem, by switching from natural gas furnaces
to heat pumps. And now there are cold climate heat pumps that can work in Maine, and in Northern climates as well.
Theodora Scarato: Well, there’s research out of UCLA that has found cell phone exposure, associated with behavioral
issues, both prenatal and postnatal exposure. There is certainly research on animals where when they exposed mice
prenatally and Dr. Hugh Taylor, Chief of Obstetrics at Yale talks about this in... you can watch his lectures where he took
mice, he exposed pregnant mice to cellphone radiation and then tested offspring and found increased hyperactivity
and decreased memory and sounds like ADHD to me. In addition, there’s research on teenagers that have used cell
phones that found one year of cellphone use, when they were putting the phone to the head, so you’re getting high
levels in a region around where the phone is near the body, had decreased memory. There is also a lot of studies that
looked at rodents where they exposed them to radio frequency, which is cell phone radiation, then counted brain cells
and found more damaged and dead brain cells after really short terms, you know, one month of a certain amount of
time a day exposure to cellphone radiation.
Leah Parks: The last thing is we should do make changes in our home. That’s really important, because if we’re talking
to moms and general population, we have to do it. We do need to get electric vehicles when they’re available. Electric
cooking, getting induction ovens when we can afford them, when they’re available. They’re very energy efficient, and
rather than using natural gas. Because if you use natural gas in the home, there’s pollution from that too in your home.
You know, we have a lot of indoor air pollution as well. So moving... We can also put solar panels on our roof if we want
to, and get energy storage systems in our house too, as backup, and create our own little micro grids. And if there’s an
emergency, we can have a resilience in our home as well. So there’s a lot we can do as a consumer, as private citizens,
to help reduce the greenhouse gas pollution.
ENVIRONMENTAL TRIGGERS — RADIATION — OXIDATIVE STRESS DAMAGING SEXUAL FUNCTION
Theodora Scarato: But, one study, was a review of all the research that had looked at oxidative stress between a
certain time period, oxidative stress parameters and found over 90% found effects. So, if you think oxidative stress
leads to a mired of diseases and this increases the stress in the body. For example, sperm damage. There’s been a lot
of research on impacts to men’s sperm. There’s connection with erectile dysfunction as well and the researchers posit
how did this happen? How is this damage happening that it’s about increases in free radicals and oxidative stress.
So a lot of people say nonionizing radiation can’t cause harm because it’s nonionizing, but there is a chain reaction
that can happen in the body. It’s not like x-ray radiation where you have the exposure and you have the DNA damaged
directly, necessarily. And cumulatively if you think about day and night, sleeping with your cell phone, sleeping with
all these devices on or a room near a cell tower, your cell antenna is in line of sight, which is what’s going to happen
with 5G, because you’re going to have these small cells right outside the windows. That’s nonstop, all the time daily
exposure to an environmental pollutant that’s affecting your body at the cellular level. And some people say, “Oh,
that radiation is so low. It’s within our government standards. It’s so low.” But your cells feel it. We know that from the
research. There is an effect. So, it’s not low to the body.
CANCER AND HEART DISEASE
Jonathon Otto: You’re saying that there’s a direct correlation between obviously the facts that you just said about the
arteries. Is there a correlation with that and breast cancer?
Dr. Joel Kahn: There is a lot of overlap between these diseases. We often call the chronic diseases of aging that aren’t
seen very often in countries that have a very different lifestyle. And traditionally Okinawa, Japan, a series of islands
that is one of these blue zone longevity series, and at least during the forties, the fifties, the sixties had a very pristine
diet of plants and fresh air, fresh water. So you didn’t see heart disease with any regularity. You didn’t see breast
cancer with any regularity. You saw very little brain disease, Alzheimer’s disease, very little diabetes, very little obesity
because these things run together. They share the root cause of a lifestyle, largely a diet that promotes inflammation,
a diet and the lifestyle that promotes oxidative stress and such and alters your immune response. So, the answer to
the question is there is an overlap for sure between the risk factors or the founding reasons that people get heart
disease and people get breast cancer.
HEALING: HEALTHY LIFESTYLE — BLUE ZONES
Jonathon Otto: So, there are these incredible locations in the world, called Blue Zones. The Blue Zones are areas of the
world where a high number of the local population live to reach the age 100. They found five of these areas. The only

one here in the United States is in Loma Linda, California, which is home to many people who are part of the Seventh-
day Adventist religion. The seventh-day Adventists are known for their message of health and their encouragement of
a healthy diet and a loving, Christian community. These Blue Zones are phenomenal study sites to be able to observe
what may be facilitating this longer life-span.
BLUE ZONE — LOMA LINDA
Jonathan Otto: From your study and research of the five Blue Zones which do you believe to be the most effective
and the most successful when it comes to longevity and quality of life?
Dr. Ayesha Sherzai: I think Loma Linda.
Jonathan Otto: Why?
Dr. Ayesha Sherzai: And I think one of the reasons we are in Loma Linda is because it’s a lived environment. We see
people achieving that over and over again. It’s not secluded. Obviously the Seventh Day Adventists have this beautiful
culture of taking care of themselves and the vegetarian diet and the aspect of being vegetarian helps a lot, but it’s
applicable. They’ve actually incorporated it their environment and you know even when people come in to the city or
when they come into the Loma Linda Hospital, they leave much healthier than they came in. Also, it’s because they’ve
perfected the art of cooking, and it’s becoming a part of their culture to cook delicious vegetarian foods on a regular
basis.
Dr. Wareham is a wonderful representative of the Seventh Day Adventist community and I had the pleasure of meeting
him a couple of years ago at a conference. He’s a cardiothoracic surgeon who did open to close heart surgeries until
very late, about age 95. And the story goes that he stopped working as a cardiothoracic surgeon because he wanted to
travel. If you know cardiothoracic surgeons, most of the time when they get to a certain age, they have residents, they
have physician assistants that do most of the work for them. But he was so sharp, and he was so cognitively vibrant
that he did everything by himself.
And even now at the age of 104, he’s quite active and he is a great example for all of us of how to lead a healthy life.
And he endorses a whole food plant based diet. He exercises on a regular basis. He’s well connected to the commu-
nity. So, diet for Adventist is a major protective factor, but at the same time, it’s one of several factors that actually
causes that longevity. The connection to community. The cognitive aspect of it. Most Seventh Day Adventists are very
cognitively active, and they’re very well connected to their tribe and they’re highly educated, and they participate in
the community work as much as possible.
So, it’s a combination of all of them together that actually results in a healthier life.
TRADITIONAL PLANT MEDICINE
Dr. Jeffrey Bland: So, basically we can learn so many lessons that have been taught through millions of years of animal
history that relate directly to us because we’re very close to so many of these animals that occupy our bios. Therefore,
when we start asking are there... is there magic in nature? Of course, there is. I mean the ancient societies and civiliza-
tions knew this well before. In fact, I just was studying traditional Chinese medicine not too long ago, looking at some
of the things that were brought into the handbook that was written 2600 years ago in which food principles were
therapeutic tools for a specific, what we now call diseases today, before they were just called imbalances. They had
very rich pharmacopeia right of how to use natural materials which were robust in the specific substances that would
affect certain parts of our body in favorable ways. And it’s very interesting to me that we’re having to relearn this now.
Now, when I say relearning, now we’ve got all the sophisticated chemical screening capability with various types of tests
that we can, to readouts of different ways that cells respond, and we can do robotic screen of thousands of different
ingredients that are found in various plant foods. What do we start finding? Whoa, gee whizz, isn’t that interesting?
Using this modern science, we find that these plant foods have constituents in them that exactly do in cells what people
have historically found when they’re using traditional culture.
So now we would say it’s scientifically based, it’s all new, it’s new discoveries, when really it’s been sitting around in
cultural understanding for a long time by observation, we’re just proving it with new tools. And it actually has made
the gap between foods and drugs, I think very, very interesting. It used to be that there was a distinctly different door
for drugs and a distinctively different door for food. Now they’re starting to be seen well, hold up, food are bioactive
ingredients and they can influence health and function maybe even more safe and effective than many drugs that
have been designed for the same thing, maybe we should be shifting our whole idea away from drugs for disease and
food for nutrition to be looking at how we produce proper function in an individual using natural substances.
HEALING: DIET
MEDITERRANEAN DIET AND HEALTH SCORE — RISK OF STROKE
Dr. Ayesha Sherzai: So, I wanted to find out what is was. And when you look at the construct of the Mediterranean diet
and how it’s created and how people are scored, so if you want to look at whether a person in Washington Heights in
New York is eating a Mediterranean diet, they’re mostly Hispanics. So you look at their diet and you see what some of
the elements are that meet that criteria. So, what did they get a positive score for? They get a positive score for if they
eat vegetables, if they eat fruits, if they eat beans and lentils and other plant-based sources of protein, and if they have
nuts and seeds included into it. And what are the things that they get a negative score on? Red meat, chicken, and other
sources of saturated fats like high fat cheese and dairy products. Those are the things that they get negative food for.
The whole food plant based components of the Mediterranean diet is actually that stands out. And when people get
a positive score and score the highest, they actually have the lowest risk of stroke. In my population, the one that I
studied, adherence to a Mediterranean diet, which we’ll call a plant based diet, reduced their risk by 44%. And the
good news was that it was not an all or none phenomenon. Every small incremental change towards that diet actually
reduced the risk of stroke. And that’s great because a lot of people don’t understand that and they’re not there. So
the message of hope is, it’s okay. You can actually get there. Every small change you make towards that diet will help
you. Add an apple. Have some greens. Get rid of that cookie or that muffin that you’re eating for breakfast every day.
Why don’t you just add maybe some, a smoothie or some fruit for your breakfast.
MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS
Jonathan Otto: Great. You mentioned you had a case on MS?
Dr. Dean Sherzai: MS, we have to be careful here. Now, when we say MS, it doesn’t mean cure. It means that when-
ever you put people with MS on this comprehensive lifestyle, you do definitely see decrement in symptoms, signifi-
cant. Some people actually have claimed that they’ve reversed it. Myself, I’ve not seen complete reversal or complete
abatement of the disease, but I’ve seen significant decrement in symptoms, significant, to the point... MS is a chronic
disease anyway. There are peaks and valleys and recurrences, and when you put people on this kind of lifestyle, you
see significant decrease in recurrences across the board.

HEALING: DETOXIFICATION
REMOVING HEAVY METALS
Jonathan Otto: Dr. Joseph, when it comes to heavy metal toxicity, now that they’re in the body-
Dr. Olivia Joseph: Yep.
Jonathan Otto: Somebody can limit or perhaps remove some of their future exposures of present exposures-
Dr. Olivia Joseph: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Jonathan Otto: But what about the accumulated damage? It’s already there. What do we do?
Dr. Olivia Joseph: What do we do? So, I think it’s important to look at gut health, it’s important to look at your detox
pathways, I think it’s very important to detox. I really don’t believe we can be healthy in the world today without de-
toxification. You know, of course we want to limit our exposure, but the reality of it is, some of it we can’t limit. We
really can’t.
I mean, if you choose to eat the best, the cleanest seafood on Earth, you are still going to get exposed to toxic metals,
it’s just a fact. You know, the other thing is, if you choose to eat the healthiest organic food, we still have toxins that
are flowing into organic food. So, it’s... You can do your best, and I highly recommend you do, but I feel like we have
to control what we can control, and we have to definitely keep our gut healthy. Definitely support our body through
detoxification.
FOODS FOR HEALING HEART DISEASE AND BREAST CANCER
Dr. Joel Kahn: Some of the magical foods for heart, talk about broccoli. Broccoli’s one of these cruciferous vegetables
that we could talk all day long about the health benefits and the anti-inflammatory benefits, but tremendously healthy
food for breast, breast tissue, precancer, avoid cancer, post-cancer and all. Broccoli sprouts. And I would say the same
thing for soy. Soy is well known, organic soy, in the world we live in. Soy foods like edamame, tempeh, organic tofu
and such to promote lower cholesterol, heart health, part of a diet called the portfolio diet that people can use the
lower their cholesterol with plants naturally. But soy is clearly, despite many of the public opinion, unfortunately kind
of dirtied by some dirty press that wasn’t true. Soy is a very breast healthy food to eat, organic. More close to nature
forums like edamame and tempeh and even tofu would be fine just as a condiment to a stir fry or a salad or such. So
yeah, there clearly is an overlap between breast health and heart health.
WHICH OILS ARE GOOD FOR WHAT AILMENT? GUT RELATED?
Jeff Styba: Yeah. So, think of it as, like we use clary sage as a catalyst to help the body heal like it already wants to heal.
So, our body wants to de-weaponize, it wants to pull the synthetic estrogens out of that cyst or out of that tumor, but
there’s something blocking that. So yeah, you’re exactly right. So by implementing an oil like clary sage, it supports our
body in order to be able to do that.
Jonathan Otto: I got this one on phantom nerve pain, where the kid had his toes chopped off by the lawnmower and
he was registering pain, but he didn’t have so they couldn’t do anything about, but they applied essential oils to other
toes and it somehow sent a signal to his brain that this was being applied or just reset it, the pain went away. And it was
just a young child so he couldn’t fake that. It was such an interesting story that calmed a child and took away his pain.
Jeff Styba: That’s awesome. We had the same story. A 22 year old kid, he lost his leg, he got hit by a drunk driver and
they had to amputate his leg. He was on opioids for the pain, like Fentanyl and all these high level painkillers because
he still had this massive pain. Like he always felt like he did right when he woke up from the accident. And he started
using... Off all the drugs and he doesn’t have it anymore.
Jonathan Otto: What did he start using?
Jeff Styba: Helichrysum, Deep Blue, Frankincense, Copaiba.
Jonathan Otto: And Deep Blue is Blue Tansy?
Jeff Styba: It’s a blend, I’m sorry. It’s a blend of Wintergreen, Blue Tansy Helichrysum, Peppermint, some Camphor,
but yeah.
DIET & NUTRITION ON HEALTH OUTCOMES
Dr. Jeffery Bland : I’m a clinical scientist by training and involved with oversight of a number of research facilities, one
of which we saw 4000 patient visits a year. On clinical studies, really specifically around diet and nutrition as it relates
to the effects on health outcomes. And we’ve published many papers, my list of co-authors is very prestigious. And
what did we find?
We found these are real people, not just study subjects, that have real lives, that have real outcomes, who come in
with real problems, ranging from chronic fatigue syndromes, fibromyalgia, systemic lupus erythematosus, rheumatoid
arthritis, various forms of early stage cognitive decline, problems of inflammatory bowel disease, metabolic syndrome,
type 2 diabetes, I mean the list goes on. We had studies in many of these areas that we’ve published but each of those
studies is really composed of individual people who have individual lives. So, we have 4000 individual patient histories,
really, of individual typography of how they responded.
So, what’s my take-away? My take-away is I have been privileged to witness literally thousands of miracles in individual
lives by using these natural substances in an appropriate way. What I’ve come to recognize, and I’ve dedicated my life
to, is to say, “These miracles, the difference between them being miracles and standard of practice is recognition by
the general body of politic.” Because what is a miracle? A miracle is something you’ve observed in one person that you
don’t know if it can be applied to somebody else. But when you see a miracle apply to many other people and you can
reproduce it, now it becomes a standard of practice. That’s what we’re doing right now in our health system. We are
seeing all of these individual miracles that I’ve seen of people resurrect their health, I’m so fortunate as I travel around
and go to meetings and just in my community that people will come up to me and say, “You know, you saved my life,
or you saved my friend’s life or my wife’s life or my child’s life.” Well, I didn’t save their life, I provided information and
access to tools and approach that was both safe and effective that led them to regain their own health, because it was
inherent in them, they just needed to find the right tools.
So, when I think about... You know, I hear docs often talk about their individual case experiences, I believe that they’re
all telling the truth. When I see thousands of patients going through these things over the years it tells me that these
are not just individual miracles, this is a standard and burden of proof that’s extrapolated to many. And that’s what
we need to do. We need to infect our population with this as the new medicine.
ENVIRONMENTAL TRIGGERS — RADIATION — WHAT TO DO
Theodora Scarato: Well, some people sleep with their phones by their heads. They don’t want to miss anything. Some
people even sleep with their phones on their chest at night.

Jonathon Otto: Under the pillow.
Theodora Scarato: Yeah, under their pillow. So, don’t sleep with your phone. You know, that’s an easy, quick thing.
Turn the phone off, completely powered off and if you need an alarm clock, get a battery powered alarm clock. You
also can turn your phone on airplane mode with all the antennas off, but we actually recommend a battery powered
alarm clock because sometimes, unfortunately in some phones, they have antennas that may still be on or turn on.
When you turn your phone off or you want to turn the antenna’s off your phone, you have to turn it on airplane mode,
turn the wifi off, the Bluetooth off, all the antennas, go into the settings and make sure all of those antennas are off.
The problem is sometimes they hop back on. You might go to do something on your phone not knowing that that app
is an internet connected app and next thing you know; it turns one of the antennas on. Plus, there’s location antennas
and sometimes they don’t all go off on those newer phones.
CLOSING
WHAT CAN YOU DO?
Jonathan Otto: Best place to start is by our own choices. That’s where we’re voting with our dollar, and we usually do
vote with our dollar. If we were all to make a stand... You influence a lot of people; I influence a lot of people. When
we make a stand, and the people that follow us influence a lot of people, it just keeps going on. If we all make a stand
then all of a sudden the companies that are doing the things that are wrong start finding out that they need to change
a practice. We can make a difference.
Theodora Scarato: We have to use our power as consumers, too, and we have to let companies know what we want
because money has actually caused this problem and money is going to solve this problem as well. Can’t come fast
enough, but we need to let them know that our health matters, we care about our health, we want safe technology
and please make that available so I can purchase the technology that is safe, not harmful to our bodies.
Jonathon Otto: One key purpose to finding out about triggers, is to be able to avoid them and reverse their effects.
If you continue to expose yourself to a trigger thinking it’s not that big of a deal, you’re bound to relapse on a regular
basis or even never see any results from other health protocols you attempt. By figuring out your triggers and choosing
to eat foods that have a more health-promoting value, you are able to take your health into your own hands and not
fall victim to symptoms that you are needlessly suffering from.
EPISODE 10
BIG PHARMA & GOVERNMENT CORRUPTION, SUPPLEMENTS VS.
PHARMACEUTICALS
PEOPLE BLINDLY FOLLOW THEIR HEALTHCARE PRACTITIONERS — HEALTHCARE SYSTEM —

LEARNING TO INVESTIGATE
Dr. Pam Popper: I’m Dr. Pam Popper, founder and executive director of Wellness Forum Health in Columbus, Ohio.
We’ve been in business for 24 years and our primary business is what we call informed medical decision making. The
premise is this — when you think about the way people buy cars and houses and blenders and washing machines and
college educations for their kids and retirement accounts, they investigate, they ask questions, they spend some time
deliberating and they make decisions based on what they think is best for them.
Then this other kind of behavior surfaces when people start making decisions about diets and supplements and health
care, they go brain dead on the buying skills. So a doctor says, “Have this $80,000 procedure,” and people go, “Okay.”
The neighbor says, “You should eat a Paleo diet,” people go, “All right.” They just agree. They’re very easily persuadable
in these environments. Some of it is because health care professionals often come off as authorities and you should
listen to them. We’ve been taught that we should do that.
But what this leads to is every day in my office, people say something like this, “If I had known then what I know now,
I never would have,” and then you can fill in the blank. “I wouldn’t have eaten this stupid diet.” “I wouldn’t have agreed
to this test or this procedure,” or whatever it is that they did that they have regrets about. So what we really want
people to do is to adopt that deliberative process that guides decision making in other areas of their life and apply it
to medicine. Of course, the exception is emergency. If you’re in a car accident and you’re bleeding on the street, you
don’t really want to read a copy of my latest book, and you don’t want to bake potatoes. But other than that, you have
plenty of time to figure out what’s the right thing to do. So that’s what I do.
CORRUPTION IN THE MEDICAL RESEARCH INDUSTRY — TESTIMONY
Dr. Judy Mikovits: I’m a PhD molecular biologist and biochemist and I worked for 22 years in the National Cancer
Institute in Frederick, Maryland actually trying to understand how the immune system becomes dysfunctional, is dys-
regulated by retroviruses. Those are the viruses like HIV which actually incorporate into your DNA, stay there forever.
And it’s the expression of those retroviruses that can dysregulate major pathways, genetic and epigenetic pathways
causing not only leukemia, lymphoma, AIDS, HIV as associated with Acquired Immune Deficiencies.
So we’ve worked on that my entire life, developing immune therapies and other natural product therapies because I
was trained in drug development and so we developed biological therapies, biological response modifiers to treat and
hopefully cure these diseases.
So everything that I do is about curing cancer.So we developed new technologies to look at everything. And somewhere
in 2006 I first saw cases of myalgic encephalomyelitis, that’s called chronic fatigue syndrome. Some of the autism spec-
trum disorders neurological diseases in children, and they were quite bizarre, but they reminded me particularly with
the dementia, the cognitive issues, the inability to think, the brain fog. They reminded me of an aspect of HIV infection
which was a neurological disease that had nothing to do with the expression of the virus but had more to do with the
infection of the virus.

AUTISM AND CANCER LINK
Dr. Marco Ruggerio: Well as old as it may seem, when you go at the molecular level and you look for alterations of
genes, then you find out that the same genes that are involved in the onset and development of cancer, they are also
involved in the onset and development of autism. So we know that autism and cancer have nothing to do with each
other, completely different diseases, but at the molecular level they share many more similarities than what people
can expect. Based on this knowledge, since I began my scientific career in oncology, that is the study of cancer, when
I was a young medical student and I was admitted to the Institute of General Pathology at the University of Florence,
Italy, where I was born.
From oncology it was rather easy to move at the molecular level to autism. So let me go back a little bit, I will not bore
you with 35 years of research, but in the field of oncology in the ‘80s it was discovered that also cancers, they differ
from each other, and essentially every cancer patient is different from any other.
Nevertheless, the level of the cells or the level of DNA, the alterations, the modifications are always the same. And you
can narrow down to about 100 genes out of the 22,000 that we have. Only 100 genes are responsible for the onset
and progression of cancer. Later on we discovered that many of those genes are also responsible for the onset and
progression of autism.
This is what drove my research for the past 20 some years and in addition to this, even so I’m a regular conventional
doctor, I am a radiologist, I’ve been working in the department of radiation and oncology, so I’m very well ... I have a
good acquaintance with conventional therapies. Nevertheless, I have always thought that the natural solutions, things
that thrive on our own defenses, could be better. At least with much less side effects.
AUTISM
Dr. Jay Davidson: The direction we’re moving in, when you look at autism and it was 1 in 10,000 kids in 1980, maybe
1970. Then in 2013 the CDC said one in fifty kids are autistic right now or on the autistic spectrum. And then you have
researchers prominent from MIT, Dr. Stephanie Senaff, saying in 2032, right now the way the trends are going, it’s going
to be one in two kids are going to be autistic. At mean, at what point do we have to stand up and say, enough of this
and we need to figure out what we can we do to support the body naturally.
Dr. Judy Mikovits: And I went to Nevada where a lady named Annette Whittemore ... her daughter was sick. So children
were sick, and I just started looking at it, and when you see a cluster of diseases, you start looking for an ideological
agent. You start looking for an environmental cause, whether it’s a toxin in the air, whatever.
So just basically started studying it. In 2009, we published in the journal Science the first ever isolation of a new family of
retroviruses. These are HIV-like viruses, and we firmly associated them with MECFS, some cancers, chronic lymphocytic
leukemia, which is very, I think it might be the number one cancer in this country. It takes us almost six months to get
it published, maybe even longer, there was a very secret meeting at The National Institutes of Health, July 22, 2009,
where it was kind of oh my God, children were infected. So people started seeing lab workers were infected. It was
this is a really big problem because this virus, or this family of viruses, had previously been associated with aggressive
prostate cancers. And you see I worked in the cancer institute and I was looking at cancers for inflammatory breast
cancers and inflammatory prostate cancers and other things. So it wasn’t lost on me, the rest of the research.
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So here was a virus that causes a cognitive, a brain disease, in young women. In teenage, young women, and a pros-
tate cancer. It doesn’t make any sense. How do you get to the two? But it does to me because those are the molecular
mechanisms I’ve studied my whole life.
Dr. Judy Mikovits: The paper gets published, and over the next, with a lot of fanfare ... And doctors are reading it and
they’re like, that’s it, chronic line. So what happens in HIV/AIDS? That’s it. This cancer. That’s it. Parkinson’s, ALS, Lou
Gehrig’s disease. So we’re seeing all these clusters of disease and what was HIV/AIDS but otherwise healthy people in
places where they shouldn’t get these infections that should be cured by antibiotics.
Well the government, when they realized the breadth and the scope of the interactions and with the huge fanfare, be-
cause chronic fatigue syndrome had been associated with a retrovirus before, maybe 20 years earlier, and that woman
scientist lost her career because they had to squash this down.
So what it turned out was all of the negative studies, so all of the studies were, “Oh, there’s no association, there’s no
association. Has nothing to do ... It’s not a human infection.” But all of the negative studies between 3.75 and 7.6% of
the controls, the healthy people who had none of these diseases. So we call that a carrier. They’re infected, but they’re
not affected. They’re not diseased. They’re healthy carriers. And we see that in biology all the time. People walking
around with infections who never get sick.
But that’s 25 million Americans are healthy carriers of mouse family of viruses that are firmly associated with breast
cancer, leukemias, lymphomas, Parkinson’s disease, ALS, and it’s just this little disease of a million people in America
called MECFS that nobody knows about.
So all of a sudden the government’s got the big, “Oh shit”. And they’re doing everything they can to retract the paper,
to make the data go away. And the data don’t go away because every study that we do has that four to six percent in
the controls. And we’re isolating the virus, and they’re trying to say, “Oh, it’s just an artifact. It’s a PCR. It’s a test. Oh it’s
in the samples. Oh it’s in the reagents.” Whatever they said. But you could never get around the biology making sense.
GENERAL STATEMENT — INTRO
Dr. Peter Breggin: People do not realize how much industry, the government, other forces in society, press on us things
that are not good for us and seduce us into them, and make tons of money off of it, whether it’s in the medical field or
any area of health, food. It doesn’t matter what it is. Constantly, we’re being bombarded to pay money for things that
aren’t good for us and that actually harm us. If somebody stands up to that billion-dollar, trillion-dollar conglomerate,
they do not appreciate it.
DON’T PUBLISH FINDINGS
Jammie: Right. I came across some clinical data when working for a pharmaceutical firm. I was reading a bunch of
clinical studies and came across a report that suggested one of the products that our company was involved in was
being implicated as possibly causing some cardiovascular issues over and above what they were stating, to the point
that the concern was that maybe it was causing heart attacks.
So when I went to present that to some of my medical clinicians that I call on to try to alert them to this and say they
should be aware of this, I was told that they didn’t want me to present that data to the doctors and they would hold
on to it and release it later.

When I inquired about it after, they played that they were still working on it, trying to see what the ramifications of the
issue, that they wanted to confirm that the data was correct. But they kept giving me a long story and when I brought it
attention to some of the doctors, I was then told directly by a couple managers to cease of mentioning anything about
the particular report until I got authorization to do so.
LITHIUM
Dr. Peter Breggin: If I were going to look at a list of the most toxic substances we give to people in the same of treat-
ment, one of them is lithium. Lithium, in the preparations used in psychiatry, is extraordinarily toxic. It was so toxic
that when it was used in saltshakers as a substitute, the AMA published an article on deaths from lithium. The way
it was discovered was that it flaked out guinea pigs. A guy named Cade found it flakes out guinea pigs when he was
doing an experiment in his lab.
We walked across the street, start giving it to patients and, by golly, it flaked them out too. It became this magic bullet
for mania. That’s how bizarre it is. It’s a severe neurotoxin. The only reason it was specifically potent and controlling
mania was that you could make the person extremely neurotoxic. At the same time, you brought them near to death,
so you’ll have to check the blood levels regularly because, while you’re killing the patient, the patient won’t realize it
quite literally because the frontal lobes are too injured, the patient didn’t realize what’s happening to them and it can
end in death.
It’s a really neurotoxic substance, and the only way it “helps people” is by having such a high level in the blood that
you’re doing what shock in lobotomy do and what the antipsychotic drugs do, you’re ruining the frontal lobe function
so that the out-of-control, high, manic person no longer has the physical ability with the brain to be that way. Again,
this is hitting with a hammer kind of thing.
Dr. Judy Mikovits: So in 2011, when I associated it with a disease called idiopathic thrombocytopenia, when our labs
did with one of the world’s experts in New York City June 1 or so, it was at that point that the government came full on
and said this is going away no. And the blood supply was heavily contaminated. And I said, I gave a talk on that at the
New York Academy of Sciences, March 21, 2011. And the data were all there, and I said, “But the good news is, here’s
the technology that will clean up the blood supply by a company named Siris.”
And all of the data were shown, all of them were public. There was literally no dispute with the science because it was
protein, it was viruses. When you can see the virus, when you can see it on electron micrograph, they’re not falling out
of the air, they’re coming out of the blood of the people who are sick. And this is no different than HIV or HTLV-1, the
other human retroviruses in the disease cohorts.
Basically, the government tried to get us to recant the data and say it was right, say it wasn’t true. And make it go away.
And we said no, no thank you. No, the data are right and true.
LITHIUM
Dr. Peter Breggin: Well, early in my career, one of my earliest books, I think 1983, a book called Psychiatric Drugs, I
wrote about, with dismay, psychiatrists who said that we should put lithium in the drinking water. These are really
establishment kinds of guys. They didn’t discuss what levels. They didn’t discuss we’re going to go up to the blood level
that nearly kills people. Are they really believing this? What they came up with was studies that they thought showed
that mental health was improved in places that had higher lithium concentrations, but those places are mostly out in
the country. People tend to be healthier and less crazy out in the country, I think. More than that, there’s fewer psychi-
atrists out there, so the fewer people gone from mental health treatment, fewer people would show up.
You can’t do those kinds of broad-scale analyses of one aspect of change. It’s not the lithium. Well, they’re doing it
again. Just in the last few months, they’re, again, pushing for lithium in the drinking water. Now, could they really hurt
people by putting low levels in? Yes because, right now, we have low levels of Prozac and some other antidepressants
and drugs in our drinking water.
Dr. Olivia Joseph: The question I ask is, “Why are we allowing these toxins into our food, our air, our environment?
Why are we intentionally putting them in our mouth, in our bodies?
Jonathan Otto: Do you think there’s an agenda there?
Dr. Olivia Joseph: Do I think there’s an agenda? I mean, there has to be in some capacity, right? I think that sometimes
we do something we think is good, and we don’t realize that it’s going to have three consequences. I mean, look at
how we overmedicate in America right now. We consume more medication than any other country in the world, and
we’re certainly not the healthiest. So why do we take that medicine? Why do you think doctors prescribe that medicine?
They don’t do it because they have an agenda, they do it because they think it’s good. But we’re ignoring the five, 10
consequences that pop up, with doing this one good thing, right?
Jonathan Otto: But why do they think it’s good when the evidence seems so obvious? There’s somebody else, maybe
even the person watching, it seems so obvious to them why.
Dr. Olivia Joseph: Right, because it’s all they know, right? If you call a carpenter to fix an issue, they’re going to fix it the
way they know how, right? So I think it’s just so deeply ingrained in them, that somebody comes to you with a problem,
your job is to fix it. Not your job is to teach that person a healthy diet lifestyle, get to the root cause. I don’t believe that
the philosophy in healthcare is, “My job is to get to the root cause.” It’s, “You come to me with a problem, I’m going to
help you with that problem,” right?
Dr. Judy Mikovits: The sequence of the virus was wrong, but we didn’t care. The sequence of a virus doesn’t matter.
There are dozens of strains of HIV, there are clades, there are other things. There are seven or eight strains of HTLV,
the Human T cell Leukemia Lymphoma Viruses, those are. Who cares? There are many strains of HPV, many strains of
measles. We have different strains of flu, that’s why we vaccinate. Who cares?
But the government started saying, “No, you can’t call it XMRV. XMRV’s not there. It’s only this sequence that came out
of the lab that was an infectious, molecular clone.” And that was never in people. But that’s what Avid had a patent
for, Big Pharma.
So all of a sudden everyone realizes how many billions of dollars, because at the height of HIV, in this country, in 1994
or so, 4 or 5, there was one million Americans. So this is 25 times that. The blood supply’s contaminated. Remember
Ryan White, remember Arthur Ash? The blood supply’s contaminated. This is trillions of dollars that the federal gov-
ernment has to pay out to people they infected, because it was transmitted...

ANTIDEPRESSANT PHARMACEUTICAL PROBLEMS
Jonathon Otto: What do you think the effect is when it comes to diseases like Alzheimer’s, dementia, Parkinson’s,
these neurodegenerative diseases? Do you believe that we’re creating a problem with the antidepressant/antianxiety
medications when it comes to these types of diseases that we’re seeing so prevalent today?
Dr. Peter Breggin: Well, there can’t be any doubt because we have studies for every class of psychiatric medication
that show that, in some cases, at least, they could. We have studies in every single classification of the drugs, antide-
pressants, mood stabilizers, antipsychotics, stimulants for children, whatever area we looked at, the sedatives for sleep,
we find that brain function is diminished. There are cognitive problems, long-term, in many patients. Some patients
get shrinkage of the brain, and some developed dementia.
For example, from the benzodiazepines like Xanax, Valium, and Ativan that doctors think are so harmless, they’re not
only terribly addictive, we have a rising number of studies showing they cause dementia. In regard to the antipsychotic
drugs which people are now freely taking for things like sleep, anxiety, and trauma, drugs like Seroquel are among the
top selling in the world, and yet it’s an antipsychotic that should be given to a minuscule number of people, we know
from that group of drugs that they’re causing atrophy of the brain, and that means dementia associated with it. So
there’s just no question about it.
DON’T PUBLISH FINDINGS
Jonathon Otto: And what was the verdict? Did that drug cause heart attacks?
Jammie: Oh yes...I won’t mention the name or the company. This drug was for the treatment of diabetes and it was
apparently implicated to causing heart attacks. To what degree, it was sort of hush, hush. I saw many reports saying
it caused well over thousands of people dying from it, from heart attacks. The problem is, heart attacks can go under
the radar and it’s hard to detail if they didn’t have underlying cardiovascular illness or if it was implicated with the drug.
But the drug was given a black box warning for that particular issue and most doctors stopped using it because of
that warning. They tried to get it back implemented, or get the black box warning taken off and had several studies to
show that it as safe, but they had to stop the studies early because it appeared that it was causing those heart attacks.
And how high were those numbers according to some sources?
Well, what I read, it was over 50,000 people died from what they believe was a direct result of the cardiovascular effects
the drug had on the individual. So they believe that the drug itself caused the heart attacks and not their heart condition.
And they were published sources?
Yes. Well they were reports from various clinicians. One was published, I can’t remember the journal.
I feel in a lot of ways there’s many ... On other drugs that I was involved in, what I was promoting, what we were told,
were the numbers of adverse reactions and side effects always seemed to be a lot less than what the actual reports
are in the clinical studies.
Dr. Judy Mikovits: From the time the paper was published two years, to get a diagnostic test to test the blood supply.
And so we didn’t have a diagnostic test because you can’t do proteins, immunization, precipitations, electron micro-
graphs. That won’t work on the blood supply. You have to have a quick test where you can test everything that’s col-
lected every day. And that’s usually done by polymerase chain reaction, PCR. But we clearly didn’t have one because
of the biology of this virus.
That is the way the paper should have been published. We don’t have a test. And so my employers, the Whittemore’s
were actually doing a test and charging Medicare, doing a test based on that infections molecular clone. Not the
techniques we used. So they were doing PCR for the Frankenstein virus that didn’t exist. It was put together in the lab
synthetically. That’s what infectious clone. That’s not the virus, that’s why the sequence was wrong. That’s not the virus
we pulled out of people. Just wasn’t. And we didn’t know this until the end, but they were selling a test, and they were
billing patients and they were billing Medicare.
The government tells me, you go to the meeting and you say the blood supply is not contaminated, or you’ll lose your
life. And oh by the way, we’re coming after you and the Whittemores for Medicare fraud for selling that test.
I said, “Hey, I’m a research program. I had nothing to do with that company.” And he said, “No matter. You’ll go down.”
And I said, “Doesn’t matter anyway, I’ll get killed.”
So they got on the phone, and I said, “No, we will not co-author that paper.” So it was published in Science on the 22nd,
I will not give that talk, it was published, there is no association of XMRV and CFS. And I’m like, “No, no no. That wasn’t
that study. It wasn’t powered.” And you’ve got the heads of the entire Michael Bush, the entire blood supply in the US,
Blood Systems Research Institute. You’ve got the head of the National Head, Heart, Lung and Blood Institute, Simone
Glen. And this is fraud. You know, punishable by prison. This is the fraud of MMR and the Thompson studies which
we learned in 2014 we could see how the government did the exact same thing to us and Thompson. But we wouldn’t
throw the data away.
BIG PHARMA
Joe Louis: I mean, it’s all political. Big Pharma is Big Pharma. They have big wide-reaching hands. They cover everything.
If you don’t play their game, and you’re trying to do medicine, you don’t practice medicine very long because you can’t
practice in their field, or in their ballpark without following their procedures.
DRUG COMPANIES CONTROL WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT HEALTHY LIVING
Dr. Pam Popper: Everybody should be angry. Part of the problem is, in fixing it, is that people are capable of being
angry about a lot of things, but they don’t know to be angry about this because they don’t know that they’re being hurt.
In other words, what happens is the cancer patient dies because the treatment was ineffective or actually killed the
person. Here’s what the family has to say. “She fought like crazy to save her life, long battle with cancer. The doctors
were so nice and did everything they could. Everybody did everything they could and we’re grateful to the medical center
for the care that our mother got,” or whatever, because people really don’t know. If they knew, they would be angry.
The problem with that, getting people to know, is that the media is controlled by drug companies and food companies
and people who have a lot of money to spend controlling the message that people get. I don’t really anticipate that I’m
going to be asked to be on any widely spread network talk show anytime soon because the sponsors would all have a
fit. If the drug companies pull their advertising from the newspapers and magazines and television tomorrow, television
networks, they couldn’t stay in business. So the drug companies are very smart. They have actually put themselves in
a position to control what people know about health. That’s why there’s reason to be angry but we don’t want to rant.
We have to really just be strategic about fixing this in important ways.

DEMENTIA & ALZHEIMER’S
Dr. Peter Breggin: In the US, psychiatrists refuse to look at it. You’ll find reviews in all of my recent books. The Psychiatric
Drug Withdrawal has reviews of these in it, so does Brain-Disabling Treatments in Psychiatry, the second edition, you’ll
get all the scientific studies. In Great Britain where there are a much larger group of ethical psychiatrists, they’ve tried to
go to the academies, for the big conferences and tried to get them to at least do one seminar on shrinkage of the brain
and dementia from the antipsychotic drugs. They have been unable to do so, but at least they have some psychiatrists
there that are trying to make it a public issue. I think I’m perhaps among the only ones here; I may be the only one.
Jonathon Otto: Wow, we certainly need more people standing up on that issue. We see, from your perspective, there
is a correlation between these things, and that people are creating a more dramatic risk for this issue.
Dr. Peter Breggin: Well, let’s take another step. What happens when you get dementia? One of the things that happens
is you become a little difficult most of the time. What happens to anybody in America who doesn’t have power who
becomes a little difficult? They’re put on psychiatric drugs. So the dementia patients are all getting psychiatric drugs, the
vast majority of them, and all that’s doing is hurrying dementia. There are even warnings not to give antipsychotic drugs
to patients with dementia, but they’re not being headed. I do enough legal cases to know they’re not being headed. So
there is no question that the psych drugs are not only contributing to the population of dementia patients, but they’re
then making them worse and killing them earlier with the drugs.
Dr. Judy Mikovits: So Mikovits and Ricetti said no. So what did they do? I gave that talk on September 22, Science the
journal publishes false positive, so Annette and Harvey Whittemore on their way to federal prison, and by the way,
their daughter will stop getting the AIDS drugs that cured her. I’m going to say it again. So what are they going to do?
They got a gun to their head, so they said, “You get the data and you make her go away.”
They fired me within seven days, I wasn’t in the building; wasn’t in town. Was on my way to Ireland to give those talks
and sanctioned by whatever. Didn’t think a thing about it, just went and did my job and told the Science.They locked
down the lab, fired me the day before the end of the NIH fiscal year, September 29.Dr. Lombardi, a co-first author
of that Science paper was not doing the experiments he was being paid for in the research lab. He was over in their
company selling these fraudulent tests.
So got them both and so refused to back down. Uh-uh (negative). And so what they were going to do was wait until I
went out of town, go into the office, do all of the studies, pretend he did them and I was a lunatic and I just didn’t know
he did the work.
So I get arrested. They go in and Watergate style. Make sure everything’s in my office. Lock down my labs, my students
can’t get in. Nobody can get in except Lombardi, and he’s got a lot to lose because he’s going to federal prison too.
They go in, they open my desk drawers, they make sure everything’s there. I’m sure they called the journal Science
and said, “We got this.” And Science is now, the false-positive is going to become the article on that was published, the
opinion article that was published on September 30.
NO HEALTHCARE — MONEY — MORE DRUGS
Dr. William Davis: It’s become clear that healthcare is not providing health. There are no grapes in Grapenuts, and
there’s no health in healthcare. Healthcare has become this process to squeeze money out of people. My colleagues,
the hospital system, Big Pharma, the medical device industry has lost sight of the fact that we’re supposed to be helping
people become healthy.
I’ve become very cynical, because I have seen that there’s too much money at stake. They’re not going to give up their
three trillion dollars ... to help people get healthy.
The common interaction with your doctor now is there’s no exchange of information that actually empowers health.
It’s just a sheaf of prescriptions, some of which cost many tens of thousands of dollars per month, for conditions that
we can get rid of very easily. I decided to take this, an end run around healthcare system and help people become
healthy on their own. I learned a lot from the world wide experience, because I saw this happen over and over again.
People would come to me, and they’d say, ‘I’m going to do this, but I told my doctor and he said it was stupid. He said
it’s going to make you fat. You have to go on Lipitor. You’re going to have a heart attack, and you’re going to become
a diabetic; because if you eat all that fat and don’t eat grains, you’re going to get real sick.’
Dr. Judy Mikovits: And John Cohen, you know, literally we should be charged with extortion and criminal fraud for
those articles to cover up the fraud. And I wrote emails to memorialize we went after him, and we can’t do anything to
him because I lost all my rights.
So at any rate, he writes the story and the very last line of the story, and I provided you those slides this morning that’ll
show you that. “She said she’ll have her new sequences in a few weeks.”
Well that’s September 30, and he knows full well that I can’t get in my lab. He knows full well that those sequences were
in the top desk drawer, because Harvey Whittemore memorialized that in an affidavit for a lawsuit.
So long story short, all of a sudden in November they’re planning the validation, the so-called Lipkin study. And we’re
on the phone and they don’t know Max has the stuff. Because Max went in there and he got it. And he secured it be-
cause that’s my job.
There were names, there were dates, there were addresses. This is your personal data of the participants in our study
who were absolutely infected with the XMRV’s and causing their diseases and Max did the right thing and he secured it.
And then when I said, “When we get back from Ireland, we’ll take care of it. We’ll give it to the authorities. We’ll give
it to Dr. Ricetti. It was my job, as a principal investigator to make sure these people didn’t get hurt. And I did my job.”
AGENDA
Philip Day: I’m often asked whether there’s an agenda behind the whole medical approach to disease, whether their
intention is to kill off chunks of people. My response to that is, we’ve known, for instance, that 17 common types of
cancer are directly linked to Vitamin D deficiency. My question is, do you think they know that? “Of course they do.”
Do they know that you can reverse type 2 diabetes, in many cases in as little as seven to 10 days, by changing diet and
exercise? “Yes, of course they know that.” So why is that not being implemented? Why are they not doing that? Why
are they not going back to Otto Warburg’s Nobel Prize thesis where he was stating that sugar is your primary fuel for
cancer, because cancer is a fermentation system driven with sugar? Why did they give Otto Warburg the Nobel Prize
and then promptly forgot about all of that and then just reverted to chemotherapy and radiation, two treatments we
know don’t cure cancer?

The answer is, yes, at the very highest levels, there is an agenda. In the mid-level way, you’re dealing with the doctors
at the coalface. I think they’re doing the best they know how to do, and I work with hundreds of doctors, and I’ll tell you
for nothing, these men and women of science get out of bed for no other reason than for their patients to get better,
but the tools they’ve been given are woefully short of the mark. What we have here is no cure going on in disease. We
have disease management and symptoms maintenance. By the way, that’s where the money is. Money’s not in dead
people, as Bill Maher says. It’s not in the healthy people. It’s in the people in the middle who can be persuaded that
they’ve got a chronic condition that’s going to need treatment for the rest of their life.
Dr. Judy Mikovits: I get back from Ireland and I’m being stalked by Harvey Whittemore who’s trying to kill me because
that’s what the government’s charged him to do. Max testified how he was going to kill me; I was going to get drunk
and fall off the parking garage. And we shared an apartment.
Then Ian Lipkin comes writing me and saying, “Oh, you’ve got to participate in the validation study.”
I said, “I can’t. Don’t have a lab. They’re suing me. Have been fired. I’m running for my life here.”
And he said, “I don’t have anything to do with the lawsuit.” And blah, blah, blah. And so he, Tony Fauci, and Harold
Varmus basically put together, “Oh, just come anyway. You can do the work in Ricetti’s lab. But oh by the way, you can’t
step foot...” And this was October ... “You can’t step foot on government property or you’ll be arrested.”
And it’s like, oh, that’s a fair validation study. I’m supposed to do retrovirus isolation by phone? Which is exactly what
I did.
But all I wanted to do, I knew our data were right and true and all I wanted to do... I’ll do it, I’ll do it. You can see my
emails. “I’ll do it. I want to do it. Not a problem.” Because it was right and true and always was. And I was confident
that we would find an association.
And in fact we did. So what did they do? They stopped the study.All the Hashimoto’s that we just heard... Because was
did these retroviruses do? Bell’s Palsy.So they took out anybody who might have been in the virus or they thought they
did. But there was one cohort of Dr. Montoya that was left. And it was the last cohort at Stanford. It was the last Cohort
in the Lipkin study, and we started getting them positive. Around December of 2012, I think.
So we started getting them as positive in this study that they’d done, everything they could to keep me from working
on it, to keep it from coming positive. They spiked it with that clone so we couldn’t culture, which was against... That
was Harold Varmus. It was against the study protocol. That’s fraud. Nobel prize winner Harold Varmus instituted fraud
knowingly in a very important study for the public health. Knowingly. And all of them did. So they all should be in fed-
eral prison.
Jonathon Otto: Are they?
Dr. Judy Mikovits: No. They’re still heading up the institutes. Tony Fauci has been the head of the National Institute
of Allergy and Infectious Disease since 1980. For 40 years, since HIV. He controls our health and human services in
everything he does is pure fraud and pure evil.
MALEVOLENT FORCES
Dr. Patrick Gentempo: I take a stand on people waking up because I believe that they are being volitionally deceived.
Especially when it comes to health care matters.
We’ve got very malevolent forces that are a part of the big agriculture, Big Pharmaceuticals government and a lot of
crony capitalism going on. And I’m not anti ... I’m a capitalist. I believe in free markets but this is not a free market. This
is regulation gone amuck with influence peddling that’s literally costing lives every single day. So what I stand for is to
get that truth out. I’m willing to take the arrows.
Dr. William Davis: You know, Warren Buffett, who is part of an initiative to change healthcare, calls American health-
care the tapeworm on the US economy. I was so thrilled he said that, that someone in the public eye has the guts to
say something like that, because no politician has the guts to say that. Nobody on network TV has the guts to say that
now because direct consumer advertising, as you know, is very powerful in the US. It’s approaching six billion dollars
a year to network TV. That has made network television scared to be critical of Big Pharma.
So, Big Pharma has an effect, but big media, both broadcast media as well as print media. Very few media outlets
now have the guts to say anything negative about the healthcare system, even though there are huge economically
crippling problems in healthcare. But people aren’t hearing it. They see it, maybe, when their neighbor goes bankrupt
because of a hospitalization, but they don’t hear about the problems in healthcare because the media won’t report it.
CONTROL & CORRUPTION
Dr. Patrick Gentempo: What we’re seeing today if you talk about mass media is a few things. Number one is we’re
seeing an affront on our rights, our civil rights, our first amendment rights for free speech. Secondly, we’re seeing con-
trol of the messaging by large concerns who are at best not truthful and at worse have a pretty ugly agenda.Facebook
says, oh, that’s political speech. We’re not going to allow you to disseminate this information anymore when there’s a
huge hunger for it.We’re seeing advertisements for drugs and pharmaceuticals. It’s becoming comical because the FCC
and the FDA requires that they list all the potential adverse effects of the drug as a part of the commercial. So in the
background you hear somebody quickly, mostly in a trance-like voice saying all these horrible things that can happen
while you see people walking hand-in-hand on the beach smiling in the sunset.
So it’s sort of this cognitive dissonance saying, “We want you to tune out the words and tune into the image and we’re
trying to sell you this false vision.” So, what’s put out there is something that I believe needs to be balanced with other
points of view and the other points of view through Google, Facebook, all the social media platforms now.
Dr. Judy Mikovits: I mean but that’s the story, so I’m jailed, November. So basically what happens is they caught Max
and Max was scared to death so he had a gun with him. And he had tried to get me to do the gun but of course I knew
from the early 90s that with Vince Foster. My stepbrother was the policeman who found Vince Foster, so I knew sui-
cided. And I wouldn’t touch guns. And I wouldn’t touch anything else because you can push me off the parking garage,
but you can’t kill me with my own gun or convince me that... And believe me, the mind games that are played, you’re
getting to thinking you’re totally crazy.

You’re running and you’re thinking, what is this? Because all we did was an experiment. We had no idea why the ferocity.
We had no idea. I mean I talked as naively as can. “That’s okay, we can fix the blood supply.”
I don’t realize it’s all about money. I don’t realize that trillions of dollars. I don’t realize the ombudsman hearing of the
5000 autism cases which were exactly encephalopathy. What is MECFS? Myalgic encephalomyelitis myelopathy. Really
muscles and brain on fire.
AGENDA
Philip Day: The autoimmune problem we’ve got in the world these days is really ramping up. It’s worrying an awful lot
of people who don’t understand what’s happening. What’s actually happening is that we have essentially wrecked out
environment over the last 150 years, this was an outgrowth of the industrial revolution, where nations were industri-
alizing at a pace that completely outstripped the common sense required to adjudicate the problems that would crop
up when you begin polluting water supplies, or introducing upwards of ... nobody really knows, 85,000, or 135,000 are
now loose in our environment, they’ve never been tested. I think they only ever tested about 1% of these, long-term
to find out what the effect would be on the endocrine system, the reproductive system, the blood work. Nobody’s
testing these things. What’s happening is government is going back to the chemical and the pharmaceutical industry
and saying, “We can’t test it, so you have to writer your own material safety data sheets.” And, if a bad one gets through
we’re coming for you.
Well, guess what? The bad ones get through all the time, the companies are fined a few million, this is coffee change
to them, because they’re making billions. So, the problem reverts to the citizen, who ends up eating food that’s not
really food at all. I mean, if you want to see the problem first hand, walk into any supermarket, and stop and put your
fresh eyes on, and just take a look at what’s actually in front of you; row upon row of shelves packed solid with highly
processed commercial material, sold off on the public as foodstuffs. So, we’re not eating according to species. We’re
eating according to the food industry now. And, a lot of this stuff is not food. So, we see an obesity epidemic, where
people are being overfed and undernourished. And, the heart of that, of course, is going to be the immune system
that occurs with that kind of behavior going on over a protracted period of time.
Dr. Judy Mikovits: Bob Naviaux, lovely scientist, great man, in San Diego, did a small clinical trial with suramin, one
of the first antiretroviral therapies for HIV/AIDS. We just took it off the shelf, it’s actually an African sleeping sickness
drug. And it’s still used there.
He used it in kids. Used it correctly, and these kids were getting their lives back. Bayer Monsanto who own the drug
stopped the study, took it away, and now nobody can get it. Bob Naviaux said, I’m not doing anything, I don’t want my
mugshot on Science.
So they’ve affected what they wanted to affect...and they’ll cover it up.So at any rate, March 14, all I had to do was sign
a piece of paper and both my husband and my lawyer, they say “We’ll drop everything. We’ll even drop the court costs.”
The $300,000. I didn’t have $300,000. And so “We’ll drop everything if you sign a piece of paper that said, ‘I made a
mistake. There are no viruses in the people. There are no viruses. I made a mistake. I’ll spend the rest of my life doing
honest research and I promise never to say another word about any of it to anyone ever.”
And I’m like, “I’m sorry, I spent my entire life doing honest research and I will shout this from the top of every building
I can as long as I live until somebody hears me.” And I’ve done exactly that.
David Wolfe: Well, there definitely have been forces working at evil in the world, and those are forces that disconnect
us from the source, those are the forces that are parasitic to good healthy living, those are the forces that are confusing
and usually moving in secret, so they like to create confusion, then move in secret. There are forces that have instigated
a large transformation in our environment, not a lot of it healthy.
Many of the different chemicals dumped into our environment have later turned out to be carcinogenic, many of the
foods that are being put into our environment right now are loaded with glyphosate and other chemicals that may in
fact prove to be dangerous and carcinogenic in the future. There’s already a lot of evidence of that.
So, when you put all that together you start to realize that there are forces that are working, either consciously or un-
consciously at evil. And I think some of it is actually conscious. I think some of these companies, there is a sociopath
at the head of that company working with another sociopath at the head of another company, and there’s no regard
for the future, and there’s no regard for the spiritual and emotional health, let alone mental health of the people that
their enterprises affect.
AGENDA
Philip Day: There is definitely an agenda to suppress the use of natural means over “Man’s brilliance,” and this is the real
war that’s going on. There’s a war that’s going on between the human order and the natural order. And, an example of
this can be clearly seen in the European Union has now made it a criminal act to claim publicly that drinking water cures
dehydration. I mean, have you ever heard anything as more nonsensical than that, punishable by two years in prison.
And, of course, what they’ve done is they’ve legally redefined “cure” and “drugs” to mean anything that you put in the
body that has a pharmacological effect on the body, well that could be a carrot. So, if a husband turns round to his
wife and says, “Honey, you’re looking a bit parched, I think you could use a slurp.” He’s prescribing a drug without a
medical license, the penalty for which is, as I said you know ... They’re not applying that. They’re not raiding people’s
houses and pulling them out in the streets for doing it. But, it’s on the statute books, so it’s kind of worrying, that they
would find it necessary to do that.
The British government found it necessary, Parliament found it necessary to pass the National Cancer Act, in 1939.
So, if you kind of whizz back to that year, we were about to declare war on Germany, at the beginning of World War II.
And, Parliament’s passing The National Cancer Act, that states that a husband cannot turn around to his wife and say,
“You got cancer, hey why don’t you try changing your diet.”
So, there is a war going on, and the public is both the pawn and the prize. And, this is big business, we need to under-
stand that sickness is the biggest business on earth, it’s bigger than war.
INFO
Dr. Jay Davidson: You can see this in so many different aspects of the mainstream medical world. They are literally
systematically trying to abolish homeopathy; they’re literally trying to remove that as a treatment.
This has happened, acupuncture, chiropractic, there’s been agendas in the medical world to systematically try to remove
anything that competes to the pharmaceutical agenda into the pharmaceutical treatment realm. Anything that’s natural
that doesn’t fit into that, they don’t profit, so they want to remove it.
It’s a scary time right now knowing that with their agenda it’s just going to keep going. It really does need to be, a rev-
olution needs to happen. People need to stand up and say, “For crying out loud, we need to make a change.”

Dr. William Davis: That’s one of the issues I deal with in this whole undoctored mentality that is what do we do when
the doctor likes disease? What do we do when the Big Pharma, and medical device industry, and the hospital industry,
likes sick people? I tell people be worthless to the healthcare system. Be healthy.
As a healthy person, you are absolutely useless to the healthcare system. That’s why you get that kind of thing where
somebody comes back to their doctor. They’ve lost all this weight; all these health issues are gone. The doctor says,
‘I don’t know what you’re doing, just keep on doing it.’ What kind of a stupid thing to say is that? Shouldn’t they say,
‘Jonathan, I don’t understand. I was treating you for seven different conditions, and you reverse them all on your own?
What did I do wrong? What was I overlooking? Help me. I don’t know if I can do what you did to other patients, but I
should at least try to understand what it is you did.’
TRAINING HEALTH PROFESSIONALS
Dr. Pam Popper: But the primary business is training health professionals to deliver evidence-based care and teaching
them how to have collaborative conversations with their patients and teaching consumers how to be more educated.
Right now, what we have, this is what we’re trying to undo. What we have is this collision of terrible things in the doctor’s
office. Patients who don’t know how to ask questions and don’t know how to take control of their health, and don’t
know much about what’s going on with them; and doctors who sometimes don’t know much more than the patient,
actually, doing what they’ve been taught to do which is often not exactly correct; and low expectations — the patients
don’t think they can get well and the doctors don’t see people getting well and nobody’s talking about getting well.
If we change that dynamic and educated patient shows up in the office with a health professional who expects to be
more collaborative and to set a standard of evidence for determining what you’re going to do with people, health care
would change in a really productive way.
MAKING GOOD CHOICES TO TAKE BACK THE POWER
Fran Drescher: All of the woes of the world have one systemic malignancy. That’s greed. But what is greed without
consumerism? Nothing. So we’re the ones, really that have all the power and that’s what we have to start recognizing.
So the more you buy organic, the more you buy eco-friendly, the more you buy locally farmed, sustainably grown foods,
the more you’re going to be tipping the scales in the direction of a healthy life for yourself, your family, your pet and
the planet. It’s the way we have to go in the 21st century.
INFORMED DECISION MAKING
Dr. Pam Popper: Because consumers are unwittingly ... they don’t know, they don’t know they should be asking. They
think the person who’s head of the medical center at the local university knows what he’s talking about; we’d all like to
believe that that’s true. I think that those health professionals mean well. I don’t think anybody goes into medicine and
says, “You know what, I can’t wait to spend $150,000 on my education and 12 years of my life and get out of school and
hurt people.” Nobody is doing that. They are victims of their own training, they’re victims of the fact that they’re not
taught anything about nutrition and alternative therapies, they’re victims of the fact that they’re not taught to look at
long-term health outcomes instead of just measuring surrogate markers, but nonetheless, the bottom line is patients
are hurt every day because of this and it shouldn’t be allowed to go on.
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HEALING PROTOCOL | iii

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HOST — JONATHAN OTTO

HUGH HENDERSON, CANCER SURVIVOR: PERSONAL TESTIMONY

CANCER — BENTONITE CLAY — PARASITES

EPISODE 1: CAN NATURAL MEDICINE REALLY REVERSE DISEASE? | 1

SUPER FOOD: INTRO TO HEMP

Jonathan Otto: What happened to him?

HOST — JONATHAN OTTO

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EPISODE 1: CAN NATURAL MEDICINE REALLY REVERSE DISEASE? | 3

HUGH HENDERSON, CANCER SURVIVOR: PERSONAL TESTIMONY

Jonathan Otto: What was the number again?

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Jonathan Otto: Right? They’re just testing ...

Dr. Rudy Mueller: One.

Jonathan Otto: And that’s

Jonathan Otto: Okay.

Dr. Rudy Mueller: Right.

Dr. Rudy Mueller: Yeah.

Jonathan Otto: Let’s say for example, detoxification.

Dr. Rudy Mueller: Right.

Dr. Rudy Mueller: Yeah, absolutely.

Jonathan Otto: That are causing the problem.

Dr. Rudy Mueller: Right.

EPISODE 1: CAN NATURAL MEDICINE REALLY REVERSE DISEASE? | 5

TURMERIC — ANTI-INFLAMMATORY; BIOPERINE

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Jonathan Otto: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

CANCER — BENTONITE CLAY — PARASITES

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FULVIC & PARASITES

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ESSENTIAL OILS & PAIN RELIEF

EPISODE 1: CAN NATURAL MEDICINE REALLY REVERSE DISEASE? | 9

PHANTOM PAIN AND ESSENTIAL OILS

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DOCTRINE OF SIGNATURES — POMEGRANATE

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EPISODE 1: CAN NATURAL MEDICINE REALLY REVERSE DISEASE? | 13

Jonathan Otto: Should I take a supplement?

Jonathan Otto: Where?

Dr. John Dempster: Yeah, totally.

Jonathan Otto: And I

HERBS TO USE FOR DETOX

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GINSENG AND GUT HEALTH

WHY NATURAL REMEDIES? DISEASE CAN BE REVERSED

EPISODE 1: CAN NATURAL MEDICINE REALLY REVERSE DISEASE? | 15

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STRESS — CORTISOL RELATED TO DISEAS