Vannoy Exodus-Esther Lecture1B
Vannoy Exodus-Esther Lecture1B
was occupied with comparative rapidity by the Israelite invaders, although not all of the
fortified strongholds, including a belt of Canaanite resistance separating the northern and
southern tribes, were reduced at that time.” So the argument is that there are destruction
levels in these cities that are mention as taken by Joshua. Those destruction levels are at
1250-1200 B.C. The assumption then is that those destruction levels are to be attributed
to the Israelite conquest and hence support a 13th century, or late date, for the Exodus.
Response:
Now that is an assumption. What you will read when you read Merrill in the
discussion of this and other people who have written similar things, if you really read
closely in the biblical description of conquests, there are only three cities that are
specifically stated to have been destroyed by the Israelites in the time of conquest and
those three are Jericho, Ai, and Hazor, where it says the cities were burned. At Jericho the
walls fell down, as you know. If you go back you notice what Joshua 10 says about
Lachish in verse 32, “The Lord handed Lachish over to Israel. Joshua took the city and
everyone in it he put to the sword.” It doesn’t say he burned the city or destroyed the city.
So you see equating those Late Bronze destruction levels with the Israelite conquest to
make that argument is the third argument.
To review, in support of the late date, 13th century, 19th dynasty Exodus you have
first, Exodus 1:11 with Pithom and Rameses. Second, you have no sedentary population
at least prior to 1300 in Trans-Jordan from Nelson Gleuck. Third, you have destruction
levels in certain cities that are mentioned in Joshua to have been taken by the Israelites.
The argument is that those destruction levels are to be attributed to Israel’s initial
conquest under Joshua. Now that is more of the problem with archaeology. When you go
in there and you find a destruction level, there’s no sign that says this was done by Joshua
and the Israelites. In fact there is a certain degree of guesswork involved.
4. Judges Says Nothing about the Palestinian Expeditions of Seti I and Rameses II
The fourth argument is that the book of Judges says nothing about the Palestinian
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expeditions of Seti I and Rameses II. Now if we go back here to the 19th dynasty, we
know that Seti and Rameses II both conducted military campaigns up into the land of
Canaan and even beyond in the north. In the year 1279, Rameses II fought a battle at
Kadesh on the Orontes River, that’s way up north of Beirut up in Syria. He fought there
with the Hittites. The Hittite empire was trying to move to the south and the Egyptians
didn’t want the Hittites to move down so they sent their armies to the north. They had a
battle and it was a standoff. There wasn’t really a winner or a loser. Then what they did
was sign a non-aggression pact. We have a Hittite copy and an Egyptian copy of that
non-aggression pact signed between the Hittites and the Egyptians at the time of Rameses
II. So we know Rameses II took an army up through the land of Canaan in the 1200s.
If you look at your citations, page 4, paragraph b, this is again from Finegan’s
book Light From the Ancient Past where he says, “Henceforth the inscriptions of Seti I
speak of campaigns in Palestine and Syria, Pekanan ("the Canaan"), Retenu, and Kadesh
being among the places mentioned. One inscription said of his return to Egypt, ‘His
majesty arrived from the countries ... when he had desolated Retenu and slain their chiefs,
causing the Asiatics to say: “See this! He is like a flame when it goes forth and no water
is brought.”’ Actually ‘the Asiatics’ were not as fearful of Egyptian power as Seti I likes
to believe, and his successor, Rameses II, had to battle throughout the sixty-seven years
of his reign against them. Although his only victory in the famous Kadesh-on-the-
Orontes battle with the Hittites was that of escaping complete destruction, the personal
heroism of Rameses II was depicted proudly in numerous Egyptian scenes.”
Now the way this argument works is this: if Israel went out of Egypt in the 1400s
and you have an early date for the Exodus, that would mean when you come down to this
time in the 1300s and 1200s where Seti and Rameses are moving with their armies up and
down through the land of Canaan. If you have an early date for the exodus you’d be in
the time of Judges. If the book of Judges, where there are clear references to the
Midianite oppression, Ammonite oppression, Philistine oppression, and various of these
bordering peoples to Israel who were oppressing the Israelites, it is odd that you have no
reference to Egyptian armies going up and throughout the land of Canaan.
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Response:
So really the argument is from silence because of the absence of any mention in
the book of Judges on the campaigns of Seti and Rameses. Do you follow that? It’s an
argument from silence. That’s not a very strong type of argument. It doesn’t mean Seti
and Rameses couldn’t have been going up through there, it just means the book of Judges
didn’t choose to report about Egyptian activity in the land of Canaan. But that’s the
argument.
B. Early Date
Let’s go to the early date viewpoint—back to the 18th dynasty of Egypt and the
1400s B.C. I think if you look at these arguments for the late date a lot of these are
arguments from silence: no sedentary population, no reference to Palestinian invasion by
Egypt, these are arguments from silence. The destruction levels of Canaanite cities, it’s
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assumed that Israel is the agent. It’s not clear-cut. The strongest argument for a late date
is Exodus 1:11 that mentions Rameses.
synchronous chronology of the Israelite kings and complicated issues. He’s done great
work looking at this problem. Most people agree you can come to a firm foundation for
the dates of the reigns of Israelite kings.
To make a long story short, we know the fourth year of Solomon was 966-967
because we can work from a later point to check the years of the reigns of the kings. If
the fourth year of Solomon’s reign is 966 or 967 and that is 480 years after the Exodus,
what’s that tell you? The Exodus was in 1446 B.C. You go back to 18th dynasty and that’s
the time of Amenhotep II. For a lot of people that settles the argument—1 Kings 6:1 says
so. 480 years before the time of the fourth year of Solomon’s reign and you have the date
of the Exodus. So there’s no further discussion.
K. A. Kitchen has a different way to deal with this 1 Kings 6:1 passage. He speaks
of that 480 as an aggregate number. Now what he means by that is a bit complex. He says
the number is an accurate number but it’s an aggregate of various component parts that
we no longer know about. But that the figure is actual and reliable but it includes
components that overlap. So that in actual years the number can be compressed. Now let
me point you to page 6 of your citations and let him explain that in his own words. As I
have said it’s very complex. This is what he argues. Look at paragraph c in the middle of
page 6. This is from his book The Ancient Orient and the Old Testament and here its
discussing from the Exodus to Solomon, that 1 Kings 6 passage, he says, “Here, the
evidence is rather more complicated. The primary evidence and biblical data used so far
would indicate an interval of roughly 300 years from the Exodus to the early years of
Solomon (c. 971/970 BC).” See he’s a late date advocate so he says the primary evidence
and biblical data of this late date argument is an interval of roughly 300 years from the
exodus to Solomon. “For the same interval, I Kings 6:1 gives 480 years, while addition of
all the individual figures in the books from Exodus to 1 Kings gives a total of some 553
years plus three unknown amounts which will here be called ‘x.’” In other words, if you
look at every chronological statement from Exodus to 1 Kings and add them up, you’re
going to get 553 plus the other unknown amount. Now a lot of these chronological
statements occur in the book of Judges. A judge arises and delivers Israel for x years and
they were oppressed for 20 years then they had rest for 40 years. Then they were
oppressed again and you get all these 40 year, 20 year, and 40 year numbers. The
question is: were all these times of oppression and rest sequential, one after the other, or
were they more regional with some of them overlapping? At this point it gets very
complex. It doesn’t matter if you were an early date advocate or a late date advocate you
are going to be forced to conclude there is overlapping in the chronology. We will come
back to that. A late date is going to have to compress those numbers a lot more than an
early date. But everyone has to deal with that 553 years plus some unknown amount.
Again, Kitchen goes further, “Furthermore, David's genealogy of five generations
in Ruth 4:18-22 can hardly easily extend over the 260 years or so between him and the
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Exodus, and so it is probably a selective one.” Compression is the normal rule for
genealogies. “But that of the priest Zadok’s (1 Ch. 6:3-8) generations would cover about
300 years. The genealogies need be no problem; but what shall we make of the 480 and
553-plus-x years, as compared with the roughly 300 years’ interval required by our
primary evidence? Now this primary evidence is going back to Exodus 1, Pithom and
Rameses and the destruction levels of Canaanite cities.” Here’s his comment, “In
principle, this problem is not quite so contradictory as it may appear, if we remember that
the Old Testament is also a part of the ancient Near East, and therefore that ancient
Oriental principles must be applied. Thus, in ordinary king lists and historical narratives,
ancient scribes and writers did not usually include synchronistic tables and cross-
references as we do today. Synchronisms were the subject of special and separate
historiographic works. In biblical terms, Judges as a narrative with a historico-religious
purpose does not deal with synchronisms (except with oppressors as part of its story),
while Kings is a synchronous history of Israel and Judah (while also a selective religious
writing) in some degree comparable with the so-called ‘synchronous histories’ of Assyria
and Babylonia.
Here, an Egyptian example will be instructive as a parallel problem.”—and here
he argues for the biblical chronological issue and for an analogy that this is Egyptian
chronological writing. “For the five Dynasties Thirteen to Seventeen (the so-called
Second Intermediate Period in Egyptian history), the Turin Papyrus of Kings records—or
when it was complete—some 170 kings who reigned at least 520 years altogether. Now
we also know that they all belong inside the period 1786 to c. 1550 BC, a maximum
period of only about 240 years at most.” So here for these 170 kings you add up the
lengths of the reigns of each king you get 520 but they all fit in the 240 years. “A
hopeless contradiction? No. We know, too, that these dynasties were all partly
contemporary the 520 or so years are genuine enough, but were partly concurrent, not all
consecutive. This may prove equally true of some of the Judges in early Israel, so that the
553-p1us years would then fit into the roughly 300 years, just like the 520 or so into the
roughly 240 in Egypt.”
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Now, here’s where he makes the move back to 1 Kings 6:1. “Now in the Ancient
Orient, chroniclers and other writers often used excerpts from fuller records, and this
might explain the 480 years—a total of selected figures (details now unknown) taken
from the larger total.” In other words, something like that 520 years in Egypt that we
know from other details was actually 240 so maybe the 480 is a kind of aggregate number
like the 520 is in Egypt. We do not know all the details of the aggregate composite. “The
various figures are therefore not so refractory in principle, when relevant principles are
applied. To work this out in practice within the book of Judges is not easy, simply
because we need more detailed information on the period than is available there or from
elsewhere. But neither is it beyond possibility (as is evident from an unpublished
preliminary study). The problem of the book of Judges is chronologically rather less
complicated than other celebrated problems of Near Eastern chronology—such as the
Second Intermediate Period in Egypt, or the date of Hammurapi of Babylon, where a
similar situation obtains."
So what do late date advocates do with this 480 years that the early date advocates
say settles the issue? Late date people come back, saying that 480 is a schematic number
for 12 generations or it maybe in some kind of aggregate number taken out of whatever
sources were available to the writer of Kings, not explaining what the aggregate was
made up of, but saying that it was less than 480 years in actuality. Now do you follow the
argument?
Although as I mentioned with Judges you cannot take chronological data straight
up, as there may be overlap. The question is, how much overlap? Again you get into this
question of history’s relation to theology with this issue; I don’t think that the date affects
the theology. It doesn’t really matter. But this question of historical background and
historical reliability is certainly an important issue and any information we get may cast
light upon historical context and background of the Exodus. We come to this with the
attitude: let’s try to find out what information there is that throws light on the biblical
material.
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already known and used in noble circles during the reign of Amenhotep III, if not before.
It would therefore have been no surprise for a fifteenth century Moses to have been well
acquainted with it.” So that’s one argument that the name was used already. That’s still
problematic. Why would the city be called Rameses if he was not one of the pharaohs?
But the other argument is that the name is simply the modernization of an archaic
place name. In other words, at the time the Israelites worked on that city Rameses, the
name Rameses would not have been attached to it. It would be much like saying the
Dutch were the original settlers of New York City. If you say to some people who didn’t
know much American history the Dutch were the settlers of New Amsterdam they might
not know what you’re saying. If you said New York City in the time the Dutch were
there it was actually called New Amsterdam not New York City, it would be the
modernization of an archaic place name. You might say “that’s kind of arbitrary.”
I don’t think it is because it’s really the same thing that happens in Genesis 14:14.
Look at Genesis 14:14. This is where Abraham was rescuing Lot, you read, “When
Abraham heard that his relative,” that’s Lot, “had been taken captive he called out to 318
in his household and went in pursuit as far as Dan.” Now compare Genesis 14:14 with
Judges 18:7 and 18:29. In Judges 18 you have the story about the tribe of Dan sending
some of their people to the north in the land of Canaan to look for another place to live.
They found this place and eventually migrated from the land originally assigned to them
in the time of Joshua up to the north. You read in Judges 18:7 the five men left and came
to Laish where they say that the people were living in safety like the Sidonians,
unsuspecting and secure. And then you go down to verse 29 and you read, “The Danites
rebuilt the city and settled there. They named it Dan after their forefather Dan who was
born to Israel.” So the city used to be called Laish. “There the Danites set up for
themselves the idols…” You go back to Genesis 14 and it says that Abraham and his
servants pursued to Dan not Laish. In the time of Abraham that place was called Laish, it
wasn’t called Dan. It didn’t take the name Dan until the time of the period of the judges.
It seems quite evident in Genesis 14 this is the modernization of an archaic place name.
Now if you have that from Genesis 14 why not in Exodus 1:11? The city was called
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Qantir when the Israelites worked on it. Later, it came to be known as Rameses. So that
when people no longer remembered the archaic place name of the site they could read
this and they would know what you’re talking about.
Look at your citations page 8, in the middle of the page, this is from Merrill
Unger’s Archaeology in the Old Testament. “Archaeology has located Pithom at Tell el-
Retabeh and Rameses at Tanis and indicated that these cities were (allegedly at least)
built by Rameses II. But in the light of Rameses II’s notorious practice of taking credit
for achievements accomplished by his predecessors, these sites were most certainly
merely rebuilt or enlarged by him. Moreover, since it is true that Tanis was called Per-
Re'emasese (the House of Rameses) for only a couple of centuries, the reference in
Exodus 1:11 must be to the older city, Zoan-Avaris, where the oppressed Israelites
labored centuries earlier. Accordingly, the name Rameses is to be construed as a
modernization of an archaic place name like Dan (for Laish in Genesis 14:14).”
18th Dynasty [Thutmose III fits long Lifespan of Moses; Seti I does not
So to get back to this second argument, in the 18th dynasty Thutmose III was a
great builder and there is evidence of 18th dynasty construction in the delta area. He was a
great builder with a long life span and that later consideration is important. I think Moses’
life span creates a very difficult problem for late date advocates. For the late date
advocates, Seti, who would be the pharaoh of the oppression, didn’t have a long life span.
If you go to the chronological data of Exodus you find Moses is born at the time of the
oppression in Exodus 2:1, “The man of the house of Levi married a Levite woman. She
became pregnant and gave birth to a son,” and that’s Moses. Deuteronomy 34:7 says that
“Moses was 120 years old when he died, yet his eyes were not weak nor his strength
gone.” Go back to Exodus 7:7 where you read, “Moses and Aaron did just as the Lord
commanded and Moses was 80 years old and Aaron 83,” when they spoke to pharaoh. If
you go to Acts chapter 7 there is reference to this time of Moses you get more
chronological in Acts 7:23 where you read, “When Moses was 40 years old he decided to
visit his fellow Israelites. He saw one of his fellow Israelites being mistreated by an
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Egyptian. So he went to his defense and avenged him by killing the Egyptian.” That’s
when he was 40 years old and that was when he was forced to flee into the wilderness.
But then you go down to verse 29, “When Moses heard this he fled to Midian where he
settled as a foreigner and had two sons.” Then in verse 30, “After 40 years had passed an
angel appeared to Moses in the flames of a burning bush in the desert near Mount Sinai
and the Lord spoke to him” and told him down in verse 34 he should go back to Egypt
and he would deliver Israel from oppression. So Moses lived 120 years. He was 40 years
old when he went into the wilderness and he was in the wilderness 40 years. When he
came back after 40 years he would have been 80. And he was 80 when he confronted
Pharaoh and asked for Israel’s release. So those chronological numbers about the life
span of Moses fit with Thutmose III as the pharaoh of the oppression but they don’t fit
with the life span of Seti. There’s just not enough time there.
If you go back to page 1 of your citations you have Gleason Archer in his Survey
of Old Testament Introduction saying, “No other known Pharaoh fulfills all the
specifications besides Thutmose III. He alone, besides Rameses II, was on the throne
long enough (fifty-four years, including the twenty one years of Hatshepsut's regency) to
have been reigning at the time of Moses’ flight from Egypt, and to pass away not long
before Moses’ call by the burning bush, thirty or forty years later.” So the lifespan of
Moses fits better, you might say, with the length of the reign of Thutmose then anyone in
the 19th dynasty and hence an early date.
Egypt lost its hold on Palestine. By the time of Amenhotep IV, who also went by another
name, Akhenaton, we have these texts called the Amarna letters during the time of
Amenhotep IV. The Amarna letters are from city state rulers in Canaan to the Egyptian
ruler. If you look at your citations pages 2 and 3, there is some material there from
Finegan’s Light from the Ancient Past about the Amarna letters. You notice that the third
line represents correspondence from vassals, princes and governors from Assyria and
Palestine to Amenhotep III and Akhenaton, who was Amenhotep IV. I’m not going to
take time to read all of that but go to page 3, top of the page, where you read, “In
Jerusalem, Abdi-Heba was governor, and he wrote repeatedly to Akhenaton, asking for
Egyptian troops and stating that unless they were sent the entire country would be lost to
Egypt.”
What follows in those indented lines are quotations from some of the Amarna
letters. If you go on a little bit below a third of the page you will see one of the letters of
Abdi-Heba of Jerusalem. He says, “‘Why do you love the Habiru,’” there’s that name,
“‘and hate the regents?’ But therefore am I slandered before the king, my lord. Because I
say: ‘The lands of the king, my lord, are lost.’ Therefore I am slandered to the king, my
lord. So let the king, my lord, care for his land… let the king turn his attention to the
archers so that the archers of the king, my lord, will go forth. No lands of the king will
remain. The Habiru plunder all lands of the king. If archers are here this year, then the
lands of the king, my lord, will remain; but if archers are not here the lands of the king,
my lord, will be lost.”
So what he is doing is asking Amenhotep IV to send help or these Habiru will take
over Jerusalem. Some of these extra-biblical references might seem pretty attractive if
you look at the dates on Amenhotep IV. If the Exodus was 1446. Amenhotep IV is
around 1380, subtracting the 40 years in the wilderness matches up pretty well with the
1446 early date.
used for a people scattered from Asia Minor, that is present-day Turkey, to Egypt, all the
way over into Mesopotamia. If you look at all the references, and there are plenty of
books written on who the Habiru were, it seems like it designates a social class rather
than an ethnic group. The Habiru seem to have been semi-nomads who wandered around
at various times, settled down into a more sedentary living, but they were wanderers. If
you look at page 6, paragraph b, this is from Kitchen—of course, Kitchen is a late date
advocate—he will not identify Habiru with Hebrew because it doesn’t fit his late date
theory. But here’s his view. “The Amarna Habiru, therefore, have no direct bearing on
the date of the Exodus or conquest.” So he just excludes them so they cannot support a
late date for these events are from the 15-14th centuries B.C.
I think this is a good statement Kitchen can substantiate, “As has been said long
ago the Hebrews may have been Habiru,” in other words they wandered 40 years in the
wilderness and other people may have referred to them as Habiru. “The Hebrews may
have been Habiru—but not all Habiru were biblical Hebrews,” that’s clear, “nor can any
particular group in the external data be yet identified as corresponding to the Hebrews.”
So it seems we have to be very careful about equating the Habiru of the Amarna
letters with Hebrew, even though that may support an early date. As I mentioned, that
word Habiru is used for people from Asia Minor to Egypt from the 18th century to the 12th
century, and there are references to Habiru in Egypt as late as the time of Rameses IV
way down in the 1100s. So either they are not identified with the Hebrews or the
Hebrews didn’t leave Egypt at the time of the Exodus. So you have to be very careful
about the Amarna writings. One cannot equate the Habiru with the Hebrews, and
therefore you cannot say the Exodus was early because of that identification.
All right, let’s stop at this point and pick up a couple more arguments for the early
date the next hour and then go on to something else.