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View Poll Results: Which one is better?

Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Automatique 55 71.43%

Vacheron Constantin Overseas 22 28.57%

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7 March 2023, 07:18 PM #1

Strong Mojo Which one is better?

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7 March 2023, 07:27 PM #2

beshannon What is your definition of the word "better"?

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7 March 2023, 07:49 PM #3

RW16610 100% subjective, as both are outstanding brands and watches. Given my choice of the two, I would go for the Audemars Piguet, but I also really like Vacheron Constantin.
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7 March 2023, 08:10 PM #4

enjoythemusic OP, please define the parameters of what makes something better. Please be specific.
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7 March 2023, 08:12 PM #5

Skyrider01 There is not one which is better. It's a matter of which one you do YOU like better.
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7 March 2023, 08:15 PM #6

HMHM There are two reasons for I think the AP is better:

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1. Better bracelet. The overseas bracelet is terrible and the emphasis on the Maltese cross on it looks out of place. The VC 222 bracelet is much better.
2. Non-hacking seconds. This one I am not sure if VC has updated the movement for the VCO, but the last time I saw one it didn't have a hacking seconds. For modern day
movement, I think not having a hacking seconds is just lazy. That applies for all brands including Patek, AP and VC. the 4302 movement of AP just edges it there.

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7 March 2023, 09:44 PM #7

Strong Mojo Quote:

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OP, please define the parameters of what makes something better. Please be specific.

In terms of looks.

7 March 2023, 09:45 PM #8

Strong Mojo Quote:

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There are two reasons for I think the AP is better:
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Posts: 31 1. Better bracelet. The overseas bracelet is terrible and the emphasis on the Maltese cross on it looks out of place. The VC 222 bracelet is much better.
2. Non-hacking seconds. This one I am not sure if VC has updated the movement for the VCO, but the last time I saw one it didn't have a hacking seconds. For
modern day movement, I think not having a hacking seconds is just lazy. That applies for all brands including Patek, AP and VC. the 4302 movement of AP just
edges it there.

I didn't notice the bracelet difference. Spot on!

7 March 2023, 09:55 PM #9

enjoythemusic Quote:
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in terms of looks.

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7 March 2023, 10:06 PM #10

enjoythemusic PS: Also add a Tank to your collection (Cartier?)... and may as well include a square case too (a Heuer Monaco does well here). What are your thoughts OP?
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7 March 2023, 10:45 PM #11

Fxyik Looks are subjective, I “have” both (APROC and VCO dual time). I disagree about AP bracelet being better. Quality of both is the same, VC is more comfortable to me as AP
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Not to say VC is better overall, but I like VC bracelet better
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7 March 2023, 10:48 PM #12

GB-man I use to think AP no question now id rather wear the VC and I’ve owned both of these. Wearing a RO is a lot like wearing a DD40. It’s a fu**ing proclamation.
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7 March 2023, 11:19 PM #13

Malum If I had to choose one of these two it would be the VC . Personally I find AP’s ugly .
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8 March 2023, 12:13 AM #14

Fxyik Re: look, I do not like the proportion of APRO 41 mm at all. If OP is comparing between this size against the VC, my pick is VC every time.
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8 March 2023, 01:56 AM #15

PhilLynott VC for me.

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8 March 2023, 09:50 AM #16

charger_vital In terms of just looks alone?

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My personal opinion is the APRO looks better on bracelet but the VCO looks better on strap.

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8 March 2023, 11:55 AM #17

Bug04 VC OS3 is my preference.

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8 March 2023, 12:58 PM #18

Strong Mojo Quote:

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I like the Tank small on a woman and I like the Santos large on a man.

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Looks are subjective, I “have” both (APROC and VCO dual time). I disagree about AP bracelet being better. Quality of both is the same, VC is more comfortable to
me as AP has sharp edges. VC also has quick change system and extension system.

Not to say VC is better overall, but I like VC bracelet better

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I respect your opinion but look at the middle of VCs bracelet, it doesn't do it for me.

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In terms of just looks alone?

My personal opinion is the APRO looks better on bracelet but the VCO looks better on strap.

You're right it does look better on strap:

8 March 2023, 02:11 PM #19

beshannon Quote:
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In terms of looks.

The Vacheron for me

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8 March 2023, 02:11 PM #20

brandrea May I say it’s a tie?

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8 March 2023, 02:19 PM #21

EEpro Which one is better?

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Vacheron. But still want the AP.

You should compare real world pics too. Videos on YouTube etc.

VC needs to up their stock photo game. The blue dial is hilarious in their website pic.
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8 March 2023, 02:23 PM #22

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There are two reasons for I think the AP is better:

1. Better bracelet. The overseas bracelet is terrible and the emphasis on the Maltese cross on it looks out of place. The VC 222 bracelet is much better.
2. Non-hacking seconds. This one I am not sure if VC has updated the movement for the VCO, but the last time I saw one it didn't have a hacking seconds. For
modern day movement, I think not having a hacking seconds is just lazy. That applies for all brands including Patek, AP and VC. the 4302 movement of AP just
edges it there.

Both of these points are obviously strictly personal. A Timex hacks. Means nothing.
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Bracelet interior angles on those VC links are all done by hand. It's a tremendous bracelet with better adjustment features and easily removed etc.
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8 March 2023, 02:24 PM #23

ts3 Not interested in either.

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8 March 2023, 02:45 PM #24

HMHM Quote:
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Both of these points are obviously strictly personal. A Timex hacks. Means nothing.

Bracelet interior angles on those VC links are all done by hand. It's a tremendous bracelet with better adjustment features and easily removed etc.

Exactly! But OP asked the question which we think is better. Obviously it’s my personal opinion but I think based on market forces so far, there are more people for AP than
VC. And if you look at the VCO thread, just observe how many people are changing their SS strap for the coloured rubber ones. I don’t see the same happening for Royal
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Watch collecting itself is very personal. It's unlikely I can change your opinion and vice versa.

8 March 2023, 04:24 PM #25

Fxyik Quote:
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Exactly! But OP asked the question which we think is better. Obviously it’s my personal opinion but I think based on market forces so far, there are more people for
Location: Seattle AP than VC. And if you look at the VCO thread, just observe how many people are changing their SS strap for the coloured rubber ones. I don’t see the same
Posts: 51 happening for Royal Oaks. I think the strap changing system of the VCO is innovative, but at the same time, if the SS strap was good looking enough, I think people
will not be changing the strap that often and rather just admire the beauty of it.

I do like the Tissot PRX and that movement hacks if I'm not mistaken. Not too familiar with Timex.

Watch collecting itself is very personal. It's unlikely I can change your opinion and vice versa.

To me, VC bracelet is equal in beauty to the AP’s. On the VC, I spend roughly 50/50 between bracelet and rubber. Not because I like it on rubber better but because it’s so
easy to change and I have watches on bracelets but not watches in rubber.

If AP bracelet is easy to change to rubber/leather, I would do the same, but since I don’t have the means to do it then it’s on bracelet all the time. That said, I have seen the
photos of APRO on leather or rubber and it looks awesome.

I would argue AP’s rubber quality is better than VC’s but I can’t say the same for the bracelets. One man’s opinion of course.

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8 March 2023, 04:28 PM #26

bullies I've handled that exact overseas before and was not impressed...
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8 March 2023, 04:43 PM #27

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I've handled that exact overseas before and was not impressed...

This may sound weird but I've found that most Vacheron Constantin watches wait to impress you until you've taken the time to get to know them better. They aren't pow in
your face mirror ball AP faceted bracelets or Rolex flashing lights. They are about the small details revealed in time.
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8 March 2023, 05:02 PM #28

DonLee People talk about the AP being very big. Actually it wears better on my wrist. I think you need a 16.5+cm wrist to wear a VC properly. It's also a lot more bling and has a
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Nathan_ If you're looking for a piece that can be worn daily, the VC got my vote;
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