Six Fold Significators

SIX FOLD SIGNIFICATOR TABLE IS NOT USED IN SIX KP
READERS.
by Tin Win, USA

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Significators with Sub in Krishnamurti Padhdhati, Vol. 2 of 1966

In “Krishnamurti Padhdhati, Vol. 2, Sagar Publications, 1966”, the
significators with the “sub" were mentioned in three example charts, as
shown below:
http://id.scribd.com/doc/72991742/K-P-Reader-2-ok
(Reprint of Krishnamurti Padhdhati, Vol. 2, Sagar Publications, 1966)
Pages 113-114: Krishnamurti Padhdhati, Vol. 2 of 1966

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Example chart- 1: Born at 10 p.m. on 9-3-1923, on p 110 under “Free from
Debts"; In Aries- Mars 11:29:42; Cancer- Neptune 25-18, Fortuna 17:5:31;
Leo- Rahu 28:5; Libra- Lagna 18:13,Jupiter 26-14; Libra- Moon 24:16:44;
Capricorn- Venus 11:14:45; Aquarius- Mercury 2:16, Uranus 21:7, Sun
25:24, Ketu 28:5.
According to Krishnamurti Paddhathi, one can borrow money during

the dasas and bhuktis of:
(a) planets in the constellation or the sub of the occupants of the
6th house;
(b) occupants of the 6th bhava;
(c) planets in the constellation or sub of the lord of the sixth house;
(d) the lords of the 6th house;
(e) planets conjoined with or aspected by any of these planets.
One can repay the loan during the dasas and bhuktis of:
(a) the planets in the constellation or the sub of the occupants in the
12th or the benefic in the 8th house;
(b) the planets occupying the 12th and benefic in 8 ;
(c) the planets in the constellation and sub of lord of the 12 or the
lord of 8 if he is a benefic by nature;
(d) lord of 12 and lord of 8 who is benefic by nature;
(e) the planets conjoined with or aspected by them.
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Page 272: Krishnamurti Padhdhati, Vol. 2 of 1966
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Example chart-2: A lady born at 6-02 p.m. on 3-11-1939
under “Child Birth – When”; In Rasi Chart, in Aries-
Saturn (R) 3;56, Ketu 5:45, Lagna 24; Cancer- Moon
3:59:30; Libra- Rahu 5:45; Scorpio- Venus 2:53; Mercury
9:49; Capricorn- Mars 27:12; Pisces- Jupiter 6:45.

House 2,5 and 11 are to be judged. Therefore follow
the order below –
(a) The planets tenanted in the constellations or subs
of the
occupants of the bhavas 2,5 and 11;
(b) Occupants of 2nd , 5th and 11th bhavas;
(c ) Planets in the constellation or sub of the lords of
the house
2,5 and 11;
(d) Lords of 2,5 and 11;
(e) Those conjoined with aspected by any of the significators.
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Example chart-3: born at 11-25 a.m. on 24-9-1965 under
“Time of Transfer”
A person asked on 24-9-1965 at 11-25 A.M. “When wiil
I be transferred?” and also furnished his horoscope. It is as
under:
In Rasi Chart, in Aries- Mars, Rahu; Taurus- Moon,
Mercury; Gemini- Jupiter, Sun; Cancer- Venus; Virgo-
Lagna: Libra- Ketu; Sagittarius- Saturn.

The following are the positions of the planets with reference to the
constellations and subs.
Sun is in the constellation of Rahu, in the sub of Jupiter.
Moon is in the constellation of Moon, in the sub of Sun.
Mercury is in the constellation of Moon, in the sub of Venus.
Mars is in the constellation of Venus, in the sub of Saturn.
Venus is in the constellation of Saturn, in the sub of Rahu.
Jupiter is in the constellation of Rahu, in the sub of Rahu.
Saturn is in the constellation of Venus, in the sub of Sun.
Rahu is in the constellation of Ketu, in the sub of Rahu.
Ketu is in the constellation of Mars, in the sub of Moon.
Now about the Transfer, consider house 3,10 and 12. 3rd house
is occupied by Saturn. The constellations ruled by Saturn are Pushyam,
Anuradha and Uttrabhadra. Mars alone is in the sub of Saturn. So Mars is
the significator.
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Proposal for ‘Six Fold Significator Table’

Based on the above three examples, in July 2008 in the
discussion
k_p_system@yahoogroups.com,, R. Dhanabalan had proposed
to convert the existing “four fold significator table”
(grade A, B, C, D) in the six KP Readers into the “six fold
significator table” with “sub” as below:
Six Fold Significators – Planet View
Planet* Planets Planets Occupants Planets Planets House
in the in the in the House in the in the Lord
Sub of Star of Sub of Star of
House House House House Lord
Occupants Occupants Lord
(A) (B) (C) (D) (E) (F)
Sun
Moon
Mars
---
Ketu
* House 1 to 12 column for “Six Fold Significators – House View”
Note: Column A & D are added for the “sub” to the usual grade A, B, C, D
(here B, C, E, F) significators.
Why ‘six fold significator table’ is not acceptable?
This idea of the “six fold significator table” had been discussed and is not
acceptable because of the following reasons:
1. With compared to only 3 examples with “sub”, the usual “four” fold
significators (grade A, B, C, D) without “sub" like in the six KP Readers
have been used in 13 examples on pp 57, 74, 118, 139, 236, 244, 256, 269,
276-277, 301, 303, 308 and 333 of “Krishnamurti Padhdhati, Vol. 2, Sagar
Publications, 1966”;
2. Out of these 3 examples with :sub”, only the first example chart, at 10
p.m. on 9-3-1923, on p 110 under “Free from Debts" have been reprinted in
the KP Reader III, 1971 edition, practical part, p 59 (new edition p 216 )
under “Free from Debts", but “without” the following paragraph with “sub”:
"According to Krishnamurty Paddhathi, one can borrow money
during the dasas and bhukties of:
a) planets in the star or "sub" of occupants of 6th house;
b) occupants of 6th house;
c) planets in the star or "sub" of lord of 6th house;
d) the lord of 6th house;
e) planets conjoined with or aspected by any of these planets."
(Krishnamurti Padhdhati, Vol. 2, Sagar Publications, 1966, p 113)
3. Other two examples regarding second chart, at 6-02 p.m. on 3-11-1839

under “Child Birth – When”, on p 272, and third chart, at 11-25 a.m. on 24-
9-1965 under “Time of Transfer” on p 318 (Krishnamurti Padhdhati, Vol. 2,
Sagar Publications, 1966) are no more included in any of the six KP
Readers at all.
4. Needles to say, only the usual four fold (grade A, B, C, D) significators

have been found consistently applied in the KP Reader III, pp 342; KP
Reader IV, pp 118, 128, 201; KP Reader V pp 149, 201; KP Reader VI pp
157, 197, 247 etc., KP SWs and the KP literature in general.
Why the “six fold significator table” is not used in the six KP Readers?
The main reason of not using the “six fold significator table” in the six
KP readers in particular and KP practice in general is that
using the sub’s signication as significator will
contradict with the following KP fundamental principle of
sub as a decider in choosing the fruitful significators:
"Planet is the source, constellation indicates nature of the results, and the
SUB is deciding factor whether the matter is favourable or not."
(Krishnamurti Padhdhati, Volume 2, Sugar Publication, Jan 1966, p 41; KP
Reader III, V, VI) "This discovery has crowned me with success." (KP
Reader III , pp 136-137/ 1971edition, theory part pp 129-130, KP Reader V,
pp 136-137/ 1971 edition 129-130 & KP Reader VI, pp 41, pp 81-82)
When majority of planets are connected with the houses 2, 7 and 11, select
the useful ones which agree with ruling planets at the time of judgment. If a
planet is in such a position that its sub lord is connected with the houses 2, 7
and 11, then this planet is useful. But if the sub is lord of 1, 6, 10 and is the
significator of 12 house, marriage cannot take place. (KP Reader IV, p 118)
In choosing fruitful significators for marriage, reject those planets which are
in the sub of planets in 1, 6 and 10, as these are the 12th houses to the houses
2, 7 and 11, and select the planets that are on the sub of the planets
signifying 2, 7 and 11. (KP Reader IV, p 150) To select the strongest
significators, reject the planets that are not in the sub of lords of 2, 5 and 11.
(ibid p 235)
Whenever the significators are more in number the best method to select the
beneficial ones and eliminate the tempters is to find out the ruling planets at
the time of judgment and see which of them are common with the
significators. (KP Reader VI, p 274, 276, 288-289)
In this context of the sub lord being a decider but not a

significator, K.M. Subramaniam stated at the beginning of
his last 'Sublord Speaks' article LX of “K.P. & Astrology
Year Book 1998” p 69, reprinted in “SUBLORD SPEAKS” –
part 3, p 141, as below:
Whether it is a planet or CUSPAL SUBLORD these are
controlled by the cuspal sub lord and its signification only.
As regards to a planet, the matter is seen through the star
lord of that planet and the SUB LORD of that planet decides
the result & how the matter is altered & enjoyed and
suffered by the native. While we take the sub lord of the
CUSP (all know the SUB LORD is a planet), we must be
more careful, while dealing the subject.
As told above, the CUSPAL SUB LORD is a PLANET. Here
we must finalise the efficiency of the CUSPAL SUBLORD, by
finding out the signification of the CUSPAL SUB LORD and
any period runs under that planet signifying that house
(CUSP), effects to get altered in those terms. To make it
more clear for the students of KP, I like to discuss the
following birth chart, as an example…..
It is also followed by Chandrakant R. Bhatt as given under:
The sub lord of the significator is the deciding factor regarding the matters
of star lord. If the sub lord is harmonious to the matters indicated by the star
lord, the significator gives favorable results. If the sub lord is detrimental to
the matters indicated by the star lord, the significator gives unfavorable
results. (Nakshatra Chintamani, p 23-24)
Observation
Although the sub's signification cannot be considered as a
‘straight’ significator, the signification of a planet needs to be
considered by houses of occupation and ownership at all three levels of the
planet itself, its star and sub. And sub has a say in assessing the matter even
if the star lord does not indicate such matter. But straight application of the
“six fold significator table” supported by the software is not
recommendable.

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SIX FOLD SIGNIFICATOR TABLE IS NOT USED IN SIX KP

by Tin Win, USA

Significators with Sub in Krishnamurti Padhdhati, Vol. 2 of 1966

Pages 113-114: Krishnamurti Padhdhati, Vol. 2 of 1966

According to Krishnamurti Paddhathi, one can borrow money during

Page 274: Krishnamurti Padhdhati, Vol. 2 of 1966

Page 318: Krishnamurti Padhdhati, Vol. 2 of 1966

Page 319: Krishnamurti Padhdhati, Vol. 2 of 1966

Proposal for ‘Six Fold Significator Table’

3. Other two examples regarding second chart, at 6-02 p.m. on 3-11-1839

4. Needles to say, only the usual four fold (grade A, B, C, D) significators

In this context of the sub lord being a decider but not a

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