Talk:Transmission electron cryomicroscopy

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Name and ambiguity - merge with cryogenic electron microscopy?

In the scientific literature for this field, along with in structural biology courses and the popular press, this technique is known simply as "cryo-electron microscopy" or "cryo-EM," and it seems to be that "cryo-EM" and "cryo-TEM" are effectively synonymous in the scientific community today (someone please correct me on this if I'm wrong). I also don't think that the phrase "transmission electron cryomicroscopy" is a widely used term for the technique. Therefore, it seems weird to me that this article and the cryogenic electron microscopy article - which has mostly redundant information with this one - are separate, and that people searching for just cryo-EM are first directed to that page and not this one, which has more information. In my opinion, this article and cryogenic electron microscopy should be combined into a single article with a name reflecting what the technique is actually called (I would argue "cryoelectron microscopy" or "cryo-electron microscopy"), focusing primarily on Cryo-TEM but also mentioning cryo-SEM and cryo-ET. Any thoughts? Samuel.P. Berry (talk) 01:19, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 22 December 2018

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 08:37, 30 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Transmission electron cryomicroscopy → Cryo-electron microscopy – The term “transmission electron cryomicroscopy” is not the standard term for this technique used in scientific literature, and is not the term that readers are likely to be searching for. “Cryo-electron microscopy,” abbreviated “cryo-EM,” is the standard term, and is used to refer specifically to cryo-TEM (e.g. the Science review paper by Yifan Cheng (2018) mentions that it is “known today as single-particle cryo–electron microscopy (cryo-EM)") A Google Scholar search of the term “transmission electron cryomicroscopy” yields 34 results from the past five years, while “cryo-electron microscopy” yields over 18,000, almost all referring to this technique. Therefore, as per Wikipedia’s conventions on using commonly recognizable names, I believe that the name of this article should be matched to change what it is actually referred to as in the scientific literature. Samuel.P. Berry (talk) 23:18, 22 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose – Proposal is malformed, since the target is taken already by a redirect to Cryogenic electron microscopy. Is this the same topic? Is a merge needed? Please explain. Looks like that article references Transmission electron cryomicroscopy and Scanning electron cryomicroscopy as sub-cases, so maybe it's all good as-is. Dicklyon (talk) 01:06, 29 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
More on this: see move log which shows this page was previously at the proposed title, but was moved because it was focused on the transmission variety and a new overview article was added to include the scanning variety. Address this head-on if you think it was a bad idea. Dicklyon (talk) 01:14, 29 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Merge proposal

I, like others above from long ago, see no reason why this page should exist on its own. Again, as mentioned above, the phrase "cryoEM" exclusively refers to transmission, not scanning. This distinction should be made known on the cryoEM page, but there's no reason for two separate pages to exist.Niashervin (talk) 07:46, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thin Film of biological specimen? Or Thin Film coating biological specimen, like in SEM?

For the thin film section describing one sort of cryogenic transmission electron microscopy, what's the thin film being described? It doesn't specifically allude to it in the text. Is it a thin film of biological specimen or is it a thin film protectively coating the biological specimen? If it's the latter, is it a gold film like in Scanning Electron Microscopy (SEM)? What differentiates this thin film kind of cryoTEM from SEM? Savenkay (talk) 05:53, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]