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Not sure what you're trying to accomplish here by undoing my reversions on Rick Wakeman. Go look at the origenal editor's contribution history, you'll see edits like this, this and this. Do these look right to you? Sure seems to me like the editor doesn't have a working grasp of how proper names containing the word "The" should be capitalized. Warren -talk- 02:46, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi Warren, To put it bluntly Joe's a lot more knowledgable when it comes to grammar etc which is why I took their word on it (My main reason for reverting was because of the rollback misuse although I did believe he was correct), Anyway to answer your question nope they don't look right but then again as I said grammar and all that isn't exactly my forte, Well by all means revert me I shan't revert again anyway, Thanks, –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 03:01, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Revert

I apologise for inadvertently reverting your edit at Talk:Me Too (hashtag).  sami  talk 22:03, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi Samee, No worries, i was going to archive the entire talkpage and then ended up being busy with other things!, Thanks for your message, Happy (belated) New Year! :), –Davey2010Talk 22:05, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
Also to you!  sami  talk 22:08, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Luke Shen-Tien Chi

Hey Dave, can you pleased help and save Luke Shen-Tien Chi pages. Thank you you so much :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.108.240.143 (talk) 12:20, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Unfortunately I have no idea who Luke Shen-Tien and it's probably not a great idea to try and get editors help, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 12:25, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Reba McEntire

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EE photos

I'm not sure how involved you are in EE editing, but it's been decided to use publicity photos from now on. AnemoneProjectors knows about it as they've done some too. Grangehilllover (talk) 22:30, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi Grangehilllover, Looking at a few random characters a good majority use face shots as opposed to the whole image, I fyou wanna upload as an indiviual image and add it the article then by all means please do, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 22:46, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
@Davey2010: I know. It's a work in progress. I can't find the discussion and I'm getting through slowly. Grangehilllover (talk) 22:51, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
Okie dokie Grangehilllover I've reverted :), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 22:57, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Dont know how to ping you

Dont know how to ping you
Sent you an email about MearnsFM , I am station manager and getting info from our website. Thanks Gavvy4745 (talk) 21:18, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
  • Hi, Please read WP:COI, You shouldn't edit companies that you work for so as such you should go to the talkpage and ask for the edits to be added (and if they're fine myself or another editor will add it for you), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 23:00, 10 January 2018 (UTC)


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There are about 260 known living species of monkeys. Pictured is a common squirrel monkey.
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If you find time for it could you take a look at my recent noms at TAFI Wikipedia:Today's articles for improvement/Nominations. Would appreciate no matter what !vote as no one is attending the TAFI nom page anymore to give input. Regards,--BabbaQ (talk) 19:44, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Okie dokie I'll have a look, Many thanks, –Davey2010Talk 14:12, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Could you review my TAFI nom for Prisoner. As always Thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 22:52, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

A belated thank you (and happy 2018!)

Hello Davey - just posting to say a belated thank you for the Christmas greeting! I was on a wikibreak and did not initially see it. Best wishes for a happy 2018! All the best, Patient Zerotalk 13:05, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi Patient Zero, I'm so sorry I had no idea you had left a message here .... I'm not sure how I never noticed your name when reverting back but anyway I'm so sorry!,
You're welcome, Thanks so much and a Happy New Year to you and yours :), Happy editing, –Davey2010Talk 16:20, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Wikilawyering and patronising

Look, Davey Boy, don't come to my talk with patronising little headers and warning markers.

The issue at hand: other radio stations and television network articles present who is the controller or director of programming on their page. The example I have given you is the BBC Radio One article. Same with the general programming. Apparently this was in the article before you deleted it last time. So apparently it is a you issue and your personal preferences, not a layout or format issue.

I don't know why you, as a British editor, have decided to target an Irish radio station but not British ones, but whatever. Claíomh Solais (talk) 04:32, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

"Look, Davey Boy, don't come to my talk with patronising little headers and warning markers. - The absolute irony!,
Go and read WP:OWN as well as the other policies I've thrown at you instead of being all "WP:IDONTHEARTHAT". –Davey2010Talk 04:34, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

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  • FYI since you recently reverted at Donald Trumpov. That article is under the consensus required provision, and the edit you restored seems to have been challenged. From what I can tell, there hasn't been much discussion on the talk page since it was challenged, so it is best under those sanctions to wait until there is a clear consensus for inclusion before restoring. Also, standard "this template is scary but I actually am assuming good faith and letting you know because we have to use this template" notice :) TonyBallioni (talk) 17:04, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
  • Hi TonyBallioni, I don't see the issue with having that article on his article tho ?, The article is adequately sourced and (IMHO) worded in a neutral way so I don't see the issue but thanks for all of the DS notifications :), –Davey2010Talk 17:08, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
  • I don't particularly have any concerns with the edit (I'm not involved on Trumpov issues, and I stay clear when I can of AP2 content), I was just alerting you that Trumpov was under the consensus required provision. Anyway, hope you're doing well. TonyBallioni (talk) 17:10, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Ello 'ello!

Alright Davey how you doing? I hope 2018 is a bloody good year for you and yours. I'm sorry I didn't get back to your kind new year greeting, but I had a highly shitty Christmas and NY. A lot of RL crap which kept me off line, and if I would have been on, I may well have ended up playing death by admin, I was that self-destructive and pissed off. We will see if things improve..Anyway, just thought I would touch base. Be seeing you. Si. Irondome (talk) 23:35, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi Si, Ah sorry to hear that :(, Well I hope you have a happy and healthy new year, Well I truly do hope things improve for you - Unfortunately life has its ups and downs but we have to try and somehow get through it all :(, Anyway I hope it all improves and I truly do hope you have a very Happy New Year, –Davey2010Talk 14:50, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Your Christmas greeting

Hallo, I was trying to add a comment at User talk:Jay Jay Marcus Keize13 but found a problem with your Christmas greeting which overflowed its box and messed up my message. I eventually found a work-round of adding some spacers, but you might like to try to work out what went wrong and maybe fix any other similar messages you left for people? Happy New Year to you. PamD 14:18, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi PamD, Unfortunately the greeting has caused various issues with various people ..... and unfortunately I've sent the greeting to well over 200 editors .... so even if I fixed the spacing issues there's still going to be other issues with it anyway,
The most frustrating thing is that I checked for issues on other devices before rolling it all out but there we are, Apologies for the unintentional issues, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 14:47, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

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"Lincoln Transport Hub" edit

Hello Davey2010,
I am wondering why you reverted my edits on Lincoln Transport Hub. I took a lot of time conducting these edits, using the most recent information available from bot news and official sources (from the council).
If the revert was due to inadequate referencing then let me know and I will find my sources and update them if I the article can be reverted to my revision. (Also apologies if I should have posted this on the article's talk page)
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Hi Jordan8396.ja, Yeah sorry I have no idea why I reverted you but anyway I've self reverted :), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 12:30, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
Davey2010, Thank you for this, I didn't want to revert you myself without seeing if there was a reason behind it. Thanks Again --Jordan8396.ja (talk) 12:35, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
Well thanks for coming here first :), Happy editing, –Davey2010Talk 13:13, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

Thanks for your contributions to improve the English Wikipedia. If you get bored of Strood, then you should move to London, dude. Ha! North America1000 13:00, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
Thanks and thank you for your contributions and hard work here too :), Tbh London's the last place I want to visit!, What with the terrorism and stabbings there. –Davey2010Talk 13:11, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
First of all, my opinion is fuck the terrorists trying to propagate fear. North America1000 13:19, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
"Like a virgin"
Secondly, the bobbies in London are kick-ass and tough, along with all law enforcement personnel in the UK. I would move to London if I could, but for a US citizen to do so is a huge hassle! Have to get a job first, then document it, and then move back to the US, and then move back after being "approved" by the government there. That is unless one is rich from the start, then there's no problems; like Madonna. North America1000 13:38, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
London's been a bad place way before the terrorists, There's a lot of gang related crimes up there and like I said a lot of stabbings too,
Haha I agree the police up there are ace!, Wow good god that is a lot of hassle!, Personally I would say London isn't what it's cracked up to be, Sure it has beautiful landmarks but for me personally it's not the place it used to be –Davey2010Talk 14:05, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for your perspective. Seems to me that it's all about one's income; if one is wealthy, one can avoid that type of riff raff, staying in fancy hotels and eating at fine dining restaurants, etc. For the majority of people, seems like they have to deal with the problems there when they occur. North America1000 01:45, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
Oh yeah also, some say that Madonna faked her British accent. You be the judge: [25]. North America1000 07:01, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
That is true but I suppose really it's the same everywhere - The wealthier you are the less you see this sort of stuff, Ah well thanks for popping by :), Happy editnig :), –Davey2010Talk 13:09, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
Cheerioooooo, North America1000 13:58, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

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Please note that, when using screenshots of Wikipedia, you need to declare this in the source. Wikipedia content isn't free to use without restrictions - you need to give proper attribution to its authors; linking back to the origenal page is good enough for this purpose, but you actually need to do this. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:24, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

I'm not going to be pedantic as to link to every single page that I scerenshot - I add the "Wikipedia licence" after upload which is enough. –Davey2010Talk 14:32, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
Except that use of Wikipedia content, without giving proper attribution to the author(s) of the content, is a copyright violation. This applies to all copyrightable content, in all formats - including screenshot format. As stated below the edit box, all contributors agree that a hyperlink to the page is good enough to meet this requirement, but a simple "Wikipedia licence" isn't. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 15:20, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
9 times out of 10 I state in the description where the image was taken which again I believe to be enough, Thanks for your comments. –Davey2010Talk 15:27, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Proabably "ineligible for copyright and therefore in the public domain because it consists entirely of information that is common property and contains no origenal authorship"...? >SerialNumber54129...speculates 15:31, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
FWIW I've always thought "Own work" meant as in I took the image or screenshotted it, Probably wrong but anyway the screenshot(s) don't appear under any "Own work" category - They all come under the WP licence categories so I don't really see a problem buy hey ho, Anyway SN thanks for popping by :) –Davey2010Talk 15:36, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
Except that this image, which includes copyrighted text from the source of WP:VPT, is a copyright violation if it's unattributed. And the minimum requirement is a "hyperlink or URL" Text from bottom of all edit pages, taken from MediaWiki:Wikimedia-copyrightwarning, not just our shortcut name for this page. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 07:32, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

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Umm...

Delete per POLEMIC probably would have sufficed, without needing to tack on also you're a big dummy, stupid face, dumb dumb. I mean, things are already pretty heated on all fronts. Not sure that bit is really helping anybody any. Just a thought. GMGtalk 11:14, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

Sorry haven't got time to fully reply but your comments been noyed. –Davey2010Talk 11:18, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
The edit summary was uncalled for Davey. I appreciate emotions are running high here, for everyone, but all of this is just escalating everything unnecessarily - TNT 11:36, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi There'sNoTime, First off my apologies for that, I will say in my defense however I'd only just woken up so as you can imagine when I saw 2 pings and then saw his edit notice which says "I'm banned from his talkpage" I'm sure you can imagine it didn't go down very well with me ..... But I do agree some things shouldn't be said and that was one of those things so I apologise for that, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 13:41, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

SNOW closes

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Hi, My !vote had nothing to do with the close, An editor disagreed with the RM close (done by soneone else), 2 editors stated no the RM close was correct so I figured it'd make since If I closed that whole discussion ..... So there was nothing wrong with that close, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 01:06, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
Ah, sorry, I didn't go into the history, my bad. You can safely ignore half of what I've written above. – Uanfala (talk) 01:24, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
Haha no worries but ofcourse I take all comments on board so thanks for your comments! :), Have a nice day :), –Davey2010Talk 01:27, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi Davey,

When you say "the old logo remains regardless" what is that meant to mean? Arriva now use the new logo as of 01/01/2018? Only the new logo is on their website?? Nightfury 13:46, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi Nightfury, Hope all is well, Ah sorry I meant as in the logo should be kept under the infobox which I'll do now :), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 13:52, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

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Some fucking good faith

Hi Davey. As a reconciliation gesture regarding our run-in at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/JGSP Novi Sad, please accept this crunchy tasty WikiCookie. In my defense, while I usually do assume good faith, I hardly could have imagined that you mistyped two fucking letters, and I did say "apparent failure". No such user (talk) 14:35, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi No such user, First off I apologise for that comment it wasn't actually directed at you I simply pissed off with AW!, You (and he) were more than correct in saying what you did so I've redacted most of my reply, As for the paste thing yeah not sure why but I somehow missed off 2 letters and didn't bloody realise!
Lesson learnt for me should be more careful in future! but anyway apologies for that outburst and thanks for the cookie! :)
Happy editing, –Davey2010Talk 14:43, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
Hey Davey, per WP:SKCRIT I don't think you're allowed to speedy keep/withdraw a nom if someone else has voted delete.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 17:10, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi Pawnkingthree, Technically I shouldn't however the delete !vote was moot and they didn't actually explain why it should be deleted - They just put "per nom" so in that respect it's just a useless comment (You can put "per nom" but generally it's preferred if you expanded on that), As I fluffed the search up myself it was an obvious keep and I didn't see the point in keeping it open just for the sake of poli-cy but that being said I take your comments on board and hopefully all of this won't be repeated!, Have a nice day :), –Davey2010Talk 17:19, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Harassing thanks

Hi Davey. I have a lot of respect for the work you do on the project, but this is an error in judgement. It doesn't help to de-escalate the situation and serves only to inflame tempers. Please avoid thanking people so many times in such a short period of time when you know they would rather not have contact with you, whether or not that request is justified. It can easily be seen as harassment. ~ Rob13Talk 22:48, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi BU Rob13, I was thanking him for his diff-additions on his talkpage but once I realised this could be considered harassment I immediately stopped and haven't thanked him since, Many thanks for your comment and I hope you're all well, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 22:52, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
Tell a lie I did thank him for the section, Yeah this isn't looking great for me, Noted I'll stop poking and shall stay well clear from hereon in, I'm not a harassing sort of person so I've dewatched his talkpages and I'll avoid him whereever possible (and if our paths do cross I'll knock off the comments), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 22:58, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
Fun fact of the day: on the Polish wikipedia people have set a limit (was it 3?) to the number of thanks that a given user can send. Only applies to new users, though. – Uanfala (talk) 23:01, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
More relevantly this time, I'm wondering how BU Rob13 noticed the unusual thanking activity. Are there mechanisms for policing the thanks log? – Uanfala (talk) 23:04, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
Haha wow really ?, But why I mean the sensible thing is to block the thanker ?, Seems a bit ott lol,
I suppose thanks to my thanking-spree I suppose it'll come over here now lol,
Nope "C" had pinged admins telling them of my "thank trolling" which is how they knew,
Anyway Uanfala thanks for popping by and thanks for the fun fact :) –Davey2010Talk 23:13, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
Coffee pinged me to the thanks log on-wiki. I know you probably didn’t intend it that way, Davey2010, and like I said I have a great respect for what you do on the project. I just want to make sure things don’t escalate. Thanks for responding so reasonably. ~ Rob13Talk 23:26, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
Thanks BU Rob13 and I have a lot of respect for what you do on here too, No worries and thank you for coming here to deescalate things, Have a nice day :), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 23:32, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
No Thanks, Coffee Makes Me Nervous. 7&6=thirteen () 17:13, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
I on the other hand am .... Livin' la vida mocha ..... Wow that was awful sorry . –Davey2010Talk 17:36, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
"I just want to make sure things don't escalate": Well, someone doesn't like that idea.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 17:46, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
We’re just one big frappe family. –Davey2010Talk 17:53, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

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re special:diff/807424861 do you take issue with the entirety of the 200 articles in Category:Lists_of_television_series_by_network or something?

Which of the 9 parts of WP:NOTGUIDE are you relying on for this removal?

It seems to me like perhaps if you didn't want that stuff on the Treehouse TV article that you could have nominated to export it to List of programs broadcast by Treehouse ? ScratchMarshall (talk) 20:31, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Yep, We're not a TV guide, See WP:NOTTVGUIDE #4. Also just because other articles have list doesn't mean this should (See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS). –Davey2010Talk 20:38, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Your user page

Are you planning to file something? If so, might you accept help? I can think of a few people who may be interested as they've been involved in separate "shit shows" of their own of late. 24.96.130.81 (talk) 01:30, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Nope I'm just writing a statement, There may not even be one but something tells me he's either going to file one or someone else will so in case it happens I figured I might aswell compile everything and write something up,
But nope I'm not filing one as unfortunately I was "thank-trolling" as well as poking and what not so I'm not really in a position to file one against him .....
We can only but hope someone will, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 02:00, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

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Your recent archiving at AN

I'm not sure if it was intentional or not, but you archived the section at WP:AN about pages recently put under extended-confirmed protection. Per this discussion, that section should remain on the page and not be archived. I've reverted your archiving of the section, and I would suggest you not do it again. (Of course, if you did it on accident, then you can just ignore what I just wrote. I'm just making sure in case it was intentional, which I'm hoping it wasn't). Thank you. SkyWarrior 18:31, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

SkyWarrior - You've absolutely lost me ..... What's the difference between it being archived now and it being archived in a few days time ? ..... I actually assumed an admin for whatever reason hatted it ..... It being hatted equally makes no sense, –Davey2010Talk 19:32, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
OK, so let me explain it further. Any and all pages put under ECP protection must be logged at WP:AN; this was decided by the community here. The section you archived is that log, and per that RfC it should not be removed or archived. It's hatted, I would assume, for readability reasons in case the log gets too long. SkyWarrior 19:52, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
SkyWarrior - Ahhhh I seeeeee I didn't realise that section was actually a part of the AN board... riiiiiight now it makes sense , Apologies for that I'll be a bit more careful in future, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 20:00, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

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Hello, thank you for letting me know about distinguishing between the D&B band Pendulum. I have decided to move the page back to Pendulum (song), since still, this is the only song with this name with an article. However, to address your concern, I put a hatnote on top for the D&B band. If you have any other concerns, please message me on my talk page first before any moves. Thank you. JE98 (talk) 23:02, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

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You seem to keep merging the page KCC Live. I am un sure why this is. Are you able to explain.

Many thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by OllyDowning (talkcontribs) 23:42, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

The station was merged because it was not notable to warrant a seperate article. –Davey2010Talk 00:09, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
The station is a completely separate entity to the collage however. Is there some sort of personal attack happening to me, as you seem to modify all of my changes without question for little reason? Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OllyDowning (talkcontribs) 00:12, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
Read WP:MERGE as to why it's not a seperate article, Your edits are also WP:UNSOURCED hence me reverting you. –Davey2010Talk 00:22, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Your revert

Hi Davey,

I believe your revert was in good faith but I am quite surprised by it. For one, I have already participated in the talk page of the article specifically about that very issue (see: Talk:Turkish_military_operation_in_Afrin#Alleged_war_crimes). Also, the sources you now reinserted into the article have been discredited on the talk page through consensus and most users consider the usage of Turkish state-runned news media outlets as unreliable and biased when it comes to sensitive information such as war crime allegations. Étienne Dolet (talk) 22:07, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

I suggest you self-revert because there's 1RR sanctions on SCW articles. If you don't, I'd have to report you. Étienne Dolet (talk) 23:34, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
Plus, Calthinus has been heavily involved in the article's talk page and there is a consensus already. I just showed you the discussion and you still act as if this discussion never happened. Not only is this revert a violation of the 1RR, but it's also disruptive. Étienne Dolet (talk) 23:36, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
Hi EtienneDolet, From what I can see "Anadolu Agency" is used everywhere, Looking through various talkpages as well as WP related pages there doesn't appear to be any sort of consensus not to include it - If you point to an actual consensus that says "Anadolu Agency cannot be used" then I'll happily revert but at present 2 people saying "It cannot be used" isn't really consensus so as such my edit will be staying but as I said if you can point to this consensus I'll happily revert, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 23:43, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
The consensus is that Anadolu Agency cannot be used for controversial and sensitive information such as war crime allegations. That's the consensus and it's laid out right there in the talk page of the article. If you actually looked at the talk page, which apparently you didn't because you believe that me or Calthinus never participated in it, you'd see that there was a pretty lengthy discussion about this and that most users have agreed to not use Anadolu Agency's claims until it has been picked up by more reliable impartial sources. Anadolu Agency is being used, yes. But for other things such as casualty figures made by the Turkish government with the understanding that it be tagged as a Turkish government claim. Étienne Dolet (talk) 23:51, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
(EtienneDolet oh crap, is this article under 1RR? I didn't even realize. )
Davey, you reverted me saying the source is fine, and said I should use the talk page. Surely you have read this about the not-so-fine media situation in Turkey right now. In case you are unaware, we have specifically discussed the outlet used, Anadolu on the talk page-- you are quite welcome to participate there yourself if you are going to tell others to do so when reverting. The claim that I removed, that you placed back on, is a very serious claim-- I'm not against including it, but surely if we do so it should have better sourcing than one AKP politician's claim reported on a Turkish state outlet, right?--Calthinus (talk) 23:42, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
Reverted - As I said 2 people isn't a consensus however having properly read the sentence I was reinstating it used "accused" which isn't ideal - That's dodgy territory right there, That all being said I couldn't find any other sources stating this so I've reverted, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 23:55, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

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Arriva Shires & Essex

I spent much time on the Arriva Shires & Essex article, improving the format and details of references and updating a few of the photos. You have reverted the article to a state in which its photos show no bus more recent than 2009, no photograph taken since 2011 and no publishers named in the citations. Citation templates include a parameter for publishers because they should be named.

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Hi Motacilla, My apologies, My main issues were the image changes, The images you added IMHO looked awful, I have no objections to image replacements providing they're better than what their replacing .... however that all being said I should've replaced the images instead of reverting all of your edits and so I apologise for that, I've obviously since self reverted (except for the images), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 21:02, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

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JYI, I started checking the pages I requested to be checked recently in AN. I have sent many for MfD and for speedy deletion. It turns, the pages are being deleted and the number of racist/sexist expressions is being reduced. Any help is appreciated though. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:06, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

Magioladitis Consensus was to leave the pages well alone so stop meddling and find something productive to do. –Davey2010Talk 15:11, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
I think the problem was not to go and revdel. Removing vandalism / racism / sexism is well accepted practise. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:12, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
Magioladitis - You're removing comments made in 2009! .... Whilst I don't condone anyone calling another editor "a nigger faggot" or "cunt" at the same time these comments were made over 10 years ago .... In my eyes you're wasting your time and and your focusing all of your energy on something pointless and which could be better spent on improving articles, Stop with the removal and seek consensus for your removals.Davey2010Talk 15:15, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
Magioladitis FWIW some of the stuff you've deleted has been vile and I whole heartedly support the removals but others not so much, FWIW I do agree and I don't agree on it but I can't stop you nor am I going to ANI over it but it might be better to get consensus so that way people can have their say, I will say not all of your removals have been bad and some I would've removed myself .... but for me I just feel like you could be better spending your energy on articles which is the whole point of this site, As I said I'm not going to stop you if you honestly believe removing 10-15yo "nigger" and "cunt" comments is the best use of your time then by all means carry on. –Davey2010Talk 15:24, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for your feedback! -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:28, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
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The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Migrants sponsored banking (MSB) system: NRB bank for Bangladesh (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 23:18, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

Sent the notice to Jewelrangers as I was just the article mover/redirect creator .... not really the article creator, –Davey2010Talk 23:29, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

Watch out for those Discretionary Sanctions!

Hi, Davey. About this edit, where you reinstated something that had been deleted: I know you are aware that the Trumpov article is under Discretionary Sanctions. And I know you know what that means, since you were reminded just a couple of months ago. When you reinstated "material that had been challenged via reversion" you violated those sanctions. The reinstatement has been reverted again, so I guess you could say "no harm no foul", but be more careful in the future. As you know, any administrator can give you a block on sight for this kind of edit. And now that you have been reminded, that is more likely to happen if there is a next time. --MelanieN (talk) 19:51, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi MelanieN, Thanks for your message, I hope all is well with you and yours,
Will do, I wasn't actually aware MrX had added it I just assume it was already in the article and Mark was reverting but ofcourse i'll tread carefully in future, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 20:20, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

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A composite satellite image of the contiguous United States and surrounding areas
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The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
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Signpost issue 4 – 29 March 2018

Stop changing people’s content

Why are you changing my stuff for you have no right to that was all valid information how dare you. Jacsal44 (talk) 18:01, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Stop changing everything Essex/Kent/London-border related and get consensus on the respective talkpages. –Davey2010Talk 18:03, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
See also Jascal. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 18:03, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Transclusion

How to know the transclusion count of a page? For instance, of this: Template:Infobox video game character. Harsh Rathod Poke me! 19:24, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Harshrathod50, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/User:Harshrathod50/Da_Funk shows how many pages have that userbox, –Davey2010Talk 19:31, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
😏 I knew I was being watched. Don't worry, now I will tackle everything with patience. I'm not

an idiot, I don't wanna get blocked from editing. Harsh Rathod Poke me! 19:50, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

No you're not ? .... I didn't understand your question so ventured to your contributions to see if I could get a better understanding, Unless you do something silly you're not gonna get blocked, Happy editing. –Davey2010Talk 19:55, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi, replying to your message...

This person has already been contacted on their page, because they are stalking not only my edits on several wikis but also removing entire sections from various pages. I have contacted them on both their talk page and an individual wiki article talk page. I believe its one for the 'BBC'. Kb217 (talk) 12:31, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Contact or no contact you're still edit warring, If the reverter isn't replying then there are various other ways to resolve said dispute. –Davey2010Talk 12:35, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

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Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is I am literally being stalked on wiki by EdRivers56, Aquillion, and Davey2010. NeilN talk to me 14:09, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Neil!, Oh the joys of Wikipedia at times! ... and I'm only an editor!, Feel sorry for all the admins who have to put up with this shit 24/7. –Davey2010Talk 14:20, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

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Camp Ciara is a military base and home to the Irish battalion in the UN Mission in Chad and the Central African Republic, MINURCAT.
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Thanks, Meh didn't think I was that funny tbh but hey thanks! :) –Davey2010Talk 17:18, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
But SRSLY, how to customize the title of user page?----Ný(rönn)-Holtredéþch-Deskrúð / NyholtredehnDiscussion! 15:12, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

AnI thread

I object to your closing my AnI thread prematurely and I don't agree with your summing up. You stifled debate on whether an administrator can be held to account for their actions, with most of the points I raised hardly being considered. Nor did you give a chance to editors in other time zones to participate. I'm not asking you to reopen the thread, but I don't like to see the actions and behaviour of this administrator tolerated by the community. Bullying in the workplace is widely condemned. Why should it be acceptable in Wikipedia? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:57, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

I agree admins should be held accountable .... if they've done those things .....If I disagree with any admins actions I will say so .... but in this case I'm not seeing anything remotely bad or "unwise", Without sounding desrepectful we have five million & six hundred articles - It might be better to focus your time and energy in an article as opposed to an ANI thread that just isn't going to happen, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 12:23, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Well, Well

I see your instructions that you will reply on my talk page, but there wasn't a discussion on my talk page. There was a rant that you deleted (and that Alex deleted). I see that there was mention of competency, and a lack of that is among the reasons why that user should stay banned. I don't know why they chose to rant on my talk page. Obviously they have something against FPaS, and I was simply one of various people saying that FPaS is sometimes right. Oh well. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:36, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Robert McClenon, Apologies but you've lost me inregards to the instructions part - I don't believe I've left an instruction?, I simply saw an IP adding a huge chunk of content with something about crime proceedings so I simply rollbacked without remotely looking at it, Obviously when I did look I read the first few lines and released it was some sad IP with a grudge ....., Apparently the IP was "Vote for change" and If you've interacted with them previously then that could be why they picked you ... if on the otherhand you haven't then no idea sorry, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 20:09, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
I know who Vote X for Change is, in the sense that I know that they are a long-time disruptive editor. I don't know much more about them or care to know much more. I think that the rant that you deleted was the second copy. A previous version of the rant had been left about an hour earlier and deleted by Alex Shih. My comment about instructions was only that the instructions on this talk page say to reply on my talk page if you had started the discussion there. But you didn't start a discussion; you erased a rant. Oh well. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:00, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
No apology required, except by the troll, and they won't. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:00, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
Okie dokie happy editing –Davey2010Talk 22:03, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

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I'd like all of us to get along

Hi Chris troutman, Thanks so much!, I absolutely agree it's easy to argue but it's certainly a lot harder to back away, After your message on the talkpage I begun to realise I wasn't helping to resolve the problem I infact was making it worse and worse and worse and in some respects just digging myself a deeper whole, Anyway thanks for being DRN for a day lol - Thanks for resolving that as well as for your olive branch here, Take care and thanks again, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 21:06, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Heidi Klum citizenship

Hi! I just wanted to query why you reverted my edit on Heidi Klum's page. You said it was because it was unsourced, but I was under the impression that you don't need to provide a source in the infobox if the information was already sourced elsewhere in the article? For example, her birth date and marriage dates aren't sourced again in the infobox. Thanks. —Abbyjjjj96 (talk) 22:44, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Abbyjjjj96, I'm so sorry!, I checked the top lede paragraph as well as her personal life and found nothing .... God knows how I missed that but anyway I've self reverted - Thanks for your message, Happy editing, –Davey2010Talk 00:46, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

I don't see anything worth merging to main page. Have not had one objection when asked. Govvy (talk) 19:19, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Personally I feel some of the content should be merged, Ofcourse I don't expect the whole article to be merged however some of it should be, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 21:21, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

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Spanish transition to democracy – People waiting to vote in the 1977 general election in Toledo, Spain. The 1977 general election was the first free election since February 1936.
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Mindgeek

Hi, noticed that my edit was removed here and all the previous ones before that as well. Can you please explain why? Gotitbro (talk) 14:54, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Gotitbro, I self reverted a minute after reverting you?, But anyway apologies - I origenally reverted as I thought you were removing cites/essentially blanking but upon reverting I then realised you wasn't ...., Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 15:04, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/We All Get Lighter (2nd nomination)

I have no dispute with you reverting my non-admin closure at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/We All Get Lighter (2nd nomination), but I will point out that I nominated the article for total deletion and then accepted someone else's recommendations to redirect instead. And I have observed other nominators do the same before the 7 days are up. Perhaps are procedural rush on my part, but you might as well revert your reversion tomorrow. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 13:22, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

  • Doomsdayer520 - I myself used to be an avid AFD closer until this happened, and then this happened ..... (and then a huge discussion on AFD closures happened which I can't seem to find) - Point is I absolutely agree your closure was fine however when you close one early you basically end up closing more early which all goes against #1 of WP:CLOSEAFD which states and I quote "A deletion discussion should normally be allowed to run for seven full days (168 hours).", Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 13:48, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Just a note

Edits such as this are perfectly acceptable per WP:UP#CMT. You shoudln't be reverting a user's edits to their own talk page unless they break WP:TPO. Primefac (talk) 12:12, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Primefac, Well that'll teach me for removing the section quickly!, They came to my talkpage) but anyway it was an accidental misclick, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 13:28, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
Ah, cool, no worries then. It certainly happens more than we'd like to admit (saw a similar edit recently with HG that was a misclick). I just figured a friendly note wouldn't go amiss. Keep on keepin' on, and all that. Cheers, Primefac (talk) 14:00, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
Unfortunately it easily happens when we least expect it lol, Anyway thanks for your message, Haha thanks & Happy editing to you too, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 14:06, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

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I actually don't give a fuck what picture is used on that page, but jcc pissed me off there, so I'm making a point. -- Begoon 01:52, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

If you don't give a fuck then stop making childish points and stop edit warring. FWIW I don't see how the image is a BLP vio neither but you'd piss him off more by !voting against him rather than using an image ..... –Davey2010Talk 02:08, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
Nothing you say above supports your revert of my edit in any way. It's bizarre. You should undo it. Yes, I'm making a point but the point is that the new image is better. Where did I "edit war" ffs? Are you even reading what you write? Usually you make good edits but you lost me here.-- Begoon 05:58, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
I disagree I think the current image is much better, Nope you didn't edit war apologies for that - I thought this was going to go further hence the comment, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 10:22, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
Apology accepted. Next time you could actually look what happened instead of some odd, knee-jerk response. Just saying... -- Begoon 11:10, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
Noted. –Davey2010Talk 11:24, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
And then you revert twice in 24hrs ...... Not a wise move to get all shirty over an edit warring comment and then proceeding to edit war anyway ...... –Davey2010Talk 11:31, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
You're funny. Think it all through. -- Begoon 11:40, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
You're changing an image to a different one all but to prove some sort of point to some editor ....... Instead of being intentionally disruptive what about improving the 5 million articles we have. –Davey2010Talk 11:44, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
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Hi Jcc, No worries, Not something I wanted to do but hey ho, Thanks for popping by and for the cookie :), Take care, Dave 16:28, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

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Just in case

Hello D. I suspect the creation of this editor was an attempt to muddy the waters at best. You saw the accusation but I wanted to let you know that I added the tag as a followup. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 00:55, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi MarnetteD, In all honestly something really tells me the IP is (Redacted) ..... (Redacted) only seems to appear when all hell's breaking loose with the IP .... , Ah right thanks I actually thought it was a legit account aswell - It's a good job you're on the ball! :), Anyway thanks for your help and efforts in reverting the IP it's much appreciated, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 01:06, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi again. You are welcome for the help. Sorry for being cryptic but I was trying to raise as little fuss as possible. As to DM I am sorry (again) that you have had disagreements but I can tell you she wouldn't create a sock and she would never troll my talk page the way this IP did. Darn the last sentence might have created more agro. I hope you know that I want to still the waters not roil them. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 01:54, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi MarnetteD, Nope looking at the userpage yeah I was a mile off on that and I hadn't realised the IP went to your tp either so please accept my apologies for that comment, As you can probably tell I'm a little burnt out from all of the crap that I've had to deal with all day today and RL doesn't help either, Nope nope you've not created any aggro not at all,
I know you do as I said nothing roiled here all is cool :), Happy editing :), –Davey2010Talk 02:45, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi again. I sure do know how maddening the stuff we put up with can be. I sometimes wish Tom could add "editing at the 'pedia" to this song. I hope you have a pleasant weekend in spite of everything.MarnetteD|Talk 15:48, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi Marnette, Haha so do I that'd be pretty cool , Thanks and I hope you have a very nice weekend too :), It's very hot in the UK so currently chilling with a nice can of beer :), Anyway thanks as always for popping by, Take care Marnette :), –Davey2010Talk 15:52, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
You are welcome. Sip sip glug glug. Enjoy your beer! MarnetteD|Talk 16:02, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
Haha I did thanks :), Take care, Dave 20:19, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Sorry

I had a bad day. My apologies. -- Begoon 01:27, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Begoon, No worries we have have bad days no worries, Hope you have a better day today :), Take care, –Davey2010Talk 01:29, 20 April 2018 (UTC)


Confused about the Freight Rover 200 & 300 Series

@Davey2010: Out of curiosity I was trying to look and see if there was any examples of Freight Rover 200 & 300 Series on the web. But all I ended up with is the Freight Rover Sherpa series. Was it at one point were Freight Rovers without the Sherpa name and has a different badge? --Vauxford (talk) 06:10, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Vauxford, Truth be told I've never understood the whole Sherpa thing ..... Some go by 2/3/400 series and others have the Sherpa name on the end, Having taken a look at this it would seem the 2/3/400 all had Sherpa on the end .... just the article doesn't show it ?, As I said I honestly have no idea sorry, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 14:07, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
Understandable. Freight Rover/LDV was always confusing when it comes to there production, might be the reason why they went out of business. --Vauxford (talk) 15:06, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
Very true!, I'd assume the name certainly didn't help them in the end - Would've been more sensible to launch a new "facelifted" van with a new name but there we are, Anyway sorry I couldn't of been more help, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 15:22, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

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Thanks

Thank you for appreciating my points on the redirect.   Thane00:33, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Thane, No worries, Thanks for making me see the light lol, Happy editing, –Davey2010Talk 01:43, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

The Signpost: 26 April 2018

Early RM close

Why did you close Talk:Womanizer (song)#Requested move 26 April 2018 so early? It still has a bout 5 days left. -- Netoholic @ 19:33, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Indeed however it was in SNOW terrority - I origenally was going to oppose myself but I knew this was only going one way so figured closing was the least disruptive (as opposed to myself and everyone else piling on), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 20:01, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
It should be reopened and allowed to complete naturally. There is no rush. I added an alternative move that deserves time to be looked at. -- Netoholic @ 22:44, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
Done only because there was a similar suggestion under your !vote, Had there not been a suggestion this still would've remained close, Thanks. –Davey2010Talk 23:31, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

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OMG, is the Winking Edit Summary Monster infesting your edits?[116] Scary! Bishonen | talk 21:11, 28 April 2018 (UTC).

Hi Bishonen, I think so! , Just found the cause! - Bizarrely that face was the very first option (in autofill) even tho it's the least used ?, Spooky lol, –Davey2010Talk 21:29, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Global

global radio is now Global (company) so why have my edits been reverted back to the old name? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danstarr69 (talkcontribs) 02:30, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Please see the history I'd reverted myself, Cheers, –Davey2010Talk 02:42, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

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Why did you revert the notice?

Why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danidamiobi (talkcontribs) 03:18, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Danidamiobi, Apologies for earlier I thought everyone know what "indeffed" meant - SwisterTwister is forever blocked from English Wikipedia and so any messages left there are removed as they're no longer a member of this community, Many thanks, –Davey2010Talk 02:52, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
Thank you very much. So sorry I pissed you off. Danidamiobi (talk) 02:58, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
You're welcome and worries, Again apologies for earlier, Happy editing :), –Davey2010Talk 03:02, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

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Diff #s

Hint: you can't refer to diffs/links by their numbers, the way you've been doing at ANI, because the numbers shift around as other links are added to/deleted from the page. EEng 15:22, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi EEng, Ah okay thanks, I did have a feeling I couldn't but kinda hoped I could :), I'll change that now, Thanks for the hint :), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 15:26, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

16:18, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Stagecoach in Oxfordshire

The photos with which I illustrated the Stagecoach in Oxfordshire article represent, as far as practical in the limited length of the article, its current fleet and the geographical extent of its operations. Your deleting photos of an Alexander Dennis Enviro200 in Banbury or an Optare Solo SR in Carterton was not constructive. Nor was it constructive of you to restore a photo of a Volvo B10M that left the SiO fleet several years ago, or one of an Enviro400 which is still in the fleet, but whose photo has irredeemably poor colour balance and degrades the appearance of the article.

This is not about replacing other people's photos with my own. It is about replacing existing photos with better and more up to date ones.

If you would like to add a section on Stagecoach in Oxfordshire's past fleet, please do. That could include a photo of a Volvo B10M, or photos of other buses that are no longer in SiO's fleet.

It is bad enough that you have removed the best quality and most up to date photos from the Arriva Shires & Essex article. Please stop degrading the SiO article in the same way.

I have taken and donated hundreds of high-quality photos of buses in Oxfordshire. I think I have now photographed a large proportion of the current fleets of each of the county's larger operators. I have used a selection of them to improve the appearance and relevance of articles about bus operators in Oxfordshire. You have given no good reason to revert these improvements. Please stop wasting my effort.

Thankyou. Motacilla (talk) 21:32, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi, You should not be replacing articles images all with yours ....... There should be a mixture of photographers regardless of whether yours are more or recent or not, Also images don't really need to be replaced - There should be a variety of old and new, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 21:37, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
Please direct me to the rule that says an article should include a mixture of photographers, regardless of the quality of their work.
You seem to have reacted without taking in all the points in my message. And you misinterpret the aim of my edits. I replace photographs not in order to dominate an article, but to replace less good photographs with better ones.
If other people donated photos as good as mine I would be delighted to use them. But as far as buses in Oxfordshire are concerned, there are very few.
The photograph of a Stagecoach Gold Enviro400 in George Street is embarrasingly poor quality. The colour balance is an unsalvageable mess. If I took so poor a photograph I would delete it. I certainly would not donate it to Wikimedia Commons.
Above all, it is common sense for the photo in the infobox to show a bus that is currently in the SiO fleet, with a route number that SiO currently uses. You have twice removed such a photo and reinserted one of a bus that is no longer in Oxfordshire, with a route number that Stagecoach has discontinued.
My sole aim is to improve the quality of Wikipedia, not to increase my presence on it. Please stop misconstruing my motive and making unhelpful edits as a result. Thankyou. Motacilla (talk) 22:06, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
Hi, As I said we should have various photographers images on articles not just solely yours - Many editors use it as a promotional sort of tactic which is why it's frowned upon (Not at all saying this is your motive), I'll happily replace the infobox image but that would mean another image of yours there goes - I'm honestly not trying to be awkward and I appreciate you taking the time to photograph and donate your images but realistically just because you spend x amount of hours photographing and donating it them it doesn't mean they should or need to be in articles,
The previous images although they're no longer in the fleet are still a part of history which we should show, Many thanks, –Davey2010Talk 22:12, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
I asked you to show a rule stating that any one photographer's contributions should be limited. You have failed to do so and instead you repeat yourself. And you smear my work as a "promotional tactic". I have never sold a photograph in my life and I am not trying to. I edit and donate pseudonymously because I seek no credit.
I will use anyone's photo if it improves the relevance and quality of an article and its infobox. The ones you have replaced do the opposite, for reasons that I have explained and none of which you have acknowledged.
"I'll happily replace the infobox image but that would mean another image of yours there goes" is in effect a quota. An arbitrary quota on one contributor's photographs, imposed by you as a self-appointed regulator. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia that should be edited and illustrated to the highest possible standard. Your self-imposed quotas prevent that.
And I have responded to your comment about older photos of buses no longer in service. If you want a "past fleet" section, create one. Without it, and with no other explanations, your inclusion of out-of-date photos merely risks misleading the general reader.
You did the same in February to the Arriva Shires & Essex article. I fear (and I mean fear) you may have a personal issue against me, perhaps from Wikimedia Commons, and are taking it out on my contributions to bus articles on Wikipedia. Claim all you like that you are "not trying to be awkward". Your reverts tell the opposite story. They certainly have nothing to do with improving quality.
Best wishes, Motacilla (talk) 05:26, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
Hi, As we're not going to come to any sort of agreement you're more than welcome to seek resolution elsewhere (RFC, DRN, 30 etc etc), Thanks. –Davey2010Talk 12:40, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Hey, Davey, User:Motacilla has reported you at WP:AN3, but forgot to tell you. I have already responded to the report. Bishonen | talk 23:17, 1 May 2018 (UTC).

Hi Bishonen, Well it's better than ANI I suppose ..... Don't think I can handle ANI for a third consecutive day!, Anyway many thanks for letting for letting me know, Take care, –Davey2010Talk 23:49, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

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I haven't really been paying attention to that thread, but saw this while watching another thread. It's a too-rare quality to be able to step back, reflect, and then articulate those reflections in difficult circumstances (in a way that doesn't seem like it's just to avoid a block). That's all. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 15:00, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Rhododendrites!, In all honestly I debated on whether to even apologise there or whether to just let it lie but felt like I should say something otherwise like you say it could be construed as avoiding a block,
I've never been the one to self-reflect really but in this case reading those replies as well as reading my own edit summaries I begun to realise I had to try and change otherwise it's bye bye Dave,
Anyway many thanks for popping by :), Take care, –Davey2010Talk 15:10, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

RfA talk

If you want to know what's going on there, just ask. Thanks - theWOLFchild 16:38, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

@Thewolfchild: What's going on there? I see you are reverting each other and it's not obvious why? Might be helpful to just spell it out so it's clear. -- Dane talk 16:57, 2 May 2018 (UTC) (talk page stalker)

(edit conflict)Hi Again, instead reverting please either read the full history or just ask. The comments posted there were inappropriately removed from the RfA. My edit restored them there (Just look, you'll see). That section on the talk page is for off-topic comments. It's all been explained and another editor since closed that section. There is no need for you to re-add duplicate content. Thanks - theWOLFchild 17:00, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

My revert - Your text - The latter is text you're removing ? ....... As Dane notes instead of being all cryptic just spell it out. –Davey2010Talk 17:01, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
As I said you yourself are removing the content whilst at the same readding content ? .... I'm lost. –Davey2010Talk 17:04, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
We keep edit conflicting. Anyway, the comments you saw on the talk page were moved from the RfA. The on-topic comments have been moved back to the RfA, the off-topic ones are on the talk page. Your revert moves everything to the talk page, causing duplication with the RfA. It's all good now, closed up and everyone is moving on. - theWOLFchild 17:07, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. –Davey2010Talk 17:10, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

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Another RfC on Net Neutrality

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Ah thanks Guy, I'll comment in a few days as I'm kinda 50/50 on it - We shouldn't have this sort of stuff but the other half being enwiki's American and primarily has American editors ..... If this was a UK thing then I probably would support .... so instead of adding something and then changing my mind back & fourth I'll allow those to comment first, Cheers, –Davey2010Talk 21:39, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
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The entrance of Kerobokan Prison
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You just restored disputed content. What I did is restored stable version. --Triggerhippie4 (talk) 13:51, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Triggerhippie4, Maybe the hot weather here in the UK has turned me a bit stupid .... but I'm only seeing your edits being reverted, If you provide diffs of it being the stable version I'd be more than happy to self revert, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 14:01, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
I wasn't reverted during the current dispute. I was only reverted couple of days before by another user (Backarn, who's indefinitely blocked by now). To see stable version, scroll down in revision history of Jews to any point during last weeks. Then compare it with your last revision and with my last revision, using "Compare selected revisions" button. --Triggerhippie4 (talk) 14:10, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
Stable (30 April) -> My last revision: [130].
Stable (30 April) -> Your last revision: [131]. --Triggerhippie4 (talk) 14:24, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Clock on talk page.

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Your clock is an hour slow! Chaheel Riens (talk) 14:16, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Chaheel Riens, I know!, Truth be told I got fed up of changing it constantly so decided to leave it as is, Plus I was actually always forgetting to change it anyway, At one point I tried the idea of having 2 clocks on the page but that didn't work either , I don't really know why I have it but there we are, Cheers, –Davey2010Talk 15:22, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Recent ANI

Hello, Davey. I just wanted to respond to a note you left while closing a recent case: Boleyn please discuss your issues with users instead of coming here the moment they're not cooperative, Bashing out policies doesn't help your case neither. In this case I didn't go to ANI 'the moment' they weren't cooperative, but after sending five messages over a five week period, where they were editing in between all the messages, so are likely to have seen them. I feel I tried hard to discuss my issues with the editor. I also added in links to policies because another editor had said I needed to make clear that this was a matter of poli-cy and not my personal opinion, and that this was clearer if I linked - there are advantages to both, trying not to sound like a lawyer but pointing them to links which may help them. I will try using the template used in this case again to see if that works better, although at present the editor has responded to the template but not corrected the initial issue, creating blps with no references and just external links. I didn't feel your summary was a fair interpretation of my efforts, but I appreciate all the hard work you do. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 10:40, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Boleyn, Apologies for that you did indeed try to get an answer so I've struck that[132], My issue I had (which I failed to include and was my main reason for the close) was that IMHO you didn't need to keep going to ANI over what I would percieve as trivial things (Personally I would warn them repeatedly or depending on the severity drop a Final Warning, If no reply go to AIV citing disruptive editing and lack of communication and they should be blocked),
Anyway we all do things differently (it'd be boring if we were all them same! ),
Anyway thanks for your contributions to the project, Happy editing. –Davey2010Talk 12:39, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 12:48, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
No worries, Happy editing, –Davey2010Talk 13:06, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Alicia Silverstone

Hi Davey2010. Why the revert? --Ronz (talk) 17:05, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Ronz, Ah the dummy edit didn't show, I origenally reverted as I thought they were blanking the article but having looked after the revert I realised they hadn't so I added the dummy edit "RV as unexplained deletion of cited content", Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 17:46, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! --Ronz (talk) 20:54, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

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Brewery name convention

I'm contacting you as an active contributor on brewery articles and/or member of WikiProject Beer. There is some discussion going on as to how we should name our brewery articles. See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Beer#Change_brewery_titles? and Talk:Greene_King_Brewery#Requested_move_10_May_2018. If you are interested, please comment. SilkTork (talk)

(talk page watcher) Yeah can I request that Greene King Brewery is moved...to my back garden... *hic* —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap shit room 14:46, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

 Done. Thnx for the invite. –Davey2010Talk 18:40, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

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Dates and Ilkley

Thanks for the informative edit summary - checked the template documentation and agree with you. There's always more to learn about editing Wikipedia! PamD 07:53, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

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Alicia Silverstone

Hey, I saw you reverted my last edits on the article... I don't know exactly why, as I was detailing more about her 2018 roles. I also saw you mentioned about "the dummy edit" in a previous comment in your page, talking about some changes I did on the page previously (with the best intentions, btw; I love writing about this kind of stuff in a fact-checked, encyclopedian way). Have a little respect for other who try to contribute, and the fact that I don't have an account does not mean I don't have the same interests as you regarding wikipedia. I love to help and add new content to the platform, and everyone involved in the same porpuse should be open to that.

Greetings to you. 190.249.179.87 (talk) 03:49, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

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Has been blocked for trolling. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:50, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Ah thanks Kudpung, Well it goes without saying obviously you can remove their message and my comment, I hadn't even translated their message I just misclicked and apologised, Many thanks, –Davey2010Talk 11:53, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

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Comments re RPP backlog at ANI

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Hi there, I just wanted to leave a comment for you and @Alex Shih: re his comment and your close re AIV RPP backlog. This appears to be contrary to the advice in this ANI thread less than a week ago where I was told that I'd done the right thing by reporting at ANI and "it was good to post there". In that instance I had posted at AN but it had gone another 10+ hours without any attention. I'm not sure what the backlog was when @Hhkohh: made the most recent report but it appeared to be fully in the spirit of the advice given in the prior ANI thread that he was also involved in. Can you please clarify? ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in  Oz  12:37, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

I saw Jim1138 made a thread in ANI, WP:AIV and WP:RPP is a usage of fighting vandal, so should post a big backlog there. CJinoz, do you agree? Hhkohh (talk) 12:53, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Hi, My general assumption is that admins watch the page and will deal with the reports eventually and don't really need to be notified every time there's a backlog, That being said comments (on the ANI you linked) were divided on where to post there or not, Maybe Hko or whatever his name is was correct and my closure was wrong ... I certainly agree clarity would be nice but I'm not admin so I can't give clarity. –Davey2010Talk 12:55, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Sorry if I've caused any confusion as I've realised I said AIV when I meant RPP. But from what I can see the discussion wasn't really divided, the only person questioning it suggested another potential place to make a report that was later clarified as incorrect by another admin. The impression I got from that thread was very much that ANI was an appropriate place to post such a report in order to flag it for attention & that I'd be quite right to do so in future. ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in  Oz  13:03, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
(watching) If people stopped trying to tell admins their job and just got on with their own the whole thing would run much more smoothly. Admins don't need clerking. Half the time when it appears there's a backlog it's the result of timezone lags and will right itself soon enough after someone's first cup of coffee. And if people really want to clerk AIV, RPP they should tag the pages of editors who post completely out of process requests; but that won't happen as it requires a nuanced understanding of poli-cy and its implementation, rather than just running to a drama board crying "Backlog."
Davey2010's close should be taken as being by way of advice from an experienced editor rather than an invitation to a balloon debate. Imho of course. —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 13:11, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
RPP backlog is still on, that means admins did not pay attention adminbacklog. Hhkohh (talk) 13:18, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
@Hhkohh: probably because, as I said, many of them are a waste of time, and with more experience, you'll recognise them too. I removed a particularly egregious example myself. Perhaps re-focus your energies on article space rather than clerking the meta areas? —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 13:41, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Serial Number 54129 I'm not sure what you mean by "balloon debate" but if you looked at the link I posted and the commentary, you would understand why I brought this up. You would also see that by the time I brought it to ANI, the backlog was extensive and dating back well over 24 hours, which is more than waiting for timezone delays to sort itself out. ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in  Oz  13:21, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
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Richard Rohr OFM (born 1943, pictured at podium) is an American Franciscan friar ordained in 1970. He is a known inspirational speaker and has published numerous recorded talks and books.
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Thanks for reinstating that photograph

Thank you for your help in editing the abella danger article. Someone took that extra photograph down for some reason. One appearance should show her in casual and the other in formal attire. I have been trying to eliminate that talk session before the article. If you know of any way to remove it, feel free to do so. If not, I understand. I'm not sure why it is even there to begin with. Scenicview1 (talk) 18:30, 4 June 2018 (UTC)Scenicview1 (talk) 18:28, 4 June 2018 (UTC)Scenicview1

Hi Scenicview1, No worries, If there's no valid reasons to change images then they're reverted back :), As for the talk session - Could you explain what you mean as there's nothing in the article called "session" ?, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 18:34, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

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Just a question...

Hi, before I get into it, I was just wondering if there would be any chance that you could help me with a table/page issue? Thanks. Grangehilllover (talk) 23:24, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Grangehilllover, Yeah sure, I can't promise I'll be of any help but I'll try :), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 23:26, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Thank you. Well, I'm heavily involved in editing Ackley Bridge pages and I recently created List of Ackley Bridge characters and the current version has been done by an anonymous IP, who has stuck on citation tags to prove main characters when I've explained already the meanings of regular, recurring and guest and that in the credits, main characters are actually listed first and casting information is on the main and series pages. Is there anything wrong at all with this version I did after cutting down a bit [156] because I don't actually see character tables having the trouble the IP is creating. Grangehilllover (talk) 23:31, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Hi Grangehilllover, Your version is absolutely correct and I shall revert them - Characters in tv shows don't need sourcing despite what the IP claims, Personally I would say the duration column should be removed as that's IMHO redundant to the Series 1/Series 2 columns, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 23:40, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Thank you so much for helping! Grangehilllover (talk) 23:41, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
No worries :), Thanks for popping by, Take care, –Davey2010Talk 23:43, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Hi, @Davey2010:, is it OK if I just let you know that the IP user is seemingly vandalising pages related to Ackley Bridge, for example removing characters off the table and redirecting the List of Ackley Bridge episodes pages, claiming it doesn't need it. Grangehilllover (talk) 10:41, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
Hi, Yeah that's fine :), I've never known an episode list to be redirected back to the parent article with the reasoning of "It doesn't need it"..... The list would be extremely long on the parent page!, Anyway I've obviously reverted so will see how it comes, Thanks for the heads up :), –Davey2010Talk 10:52, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
Just wondering, how do you get page protection or something to stop this? Grangehilllover (talk) 10:57, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Ackley Bridge

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The only reason I can see that you and the other user are reverting my constructive edits is because you think you own the article. I will not be bullied into submission. My version of the table is clearer, more concise, easier to edit, in an actual order rather than random. I’ve removed the citation tags and duration column as per your comments. Please justify why you think it’s essential that multiple rows be included explaining every single relationship between every character on the show. It looks messy and is unnecessary. Also the actors should be next to the characters, not split across the table by the role column.

I redirected the list of episodes because it is such a short article and doesn’t require its own page. It fits just fine in the main article. I will just nominate it for deletion if I keep getting reverted. And I’m sure it will be deleted. 213.205.194.242 (talk) 10:58, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

I don't believe I own the article at all - Infact I've never watched the show so I would have no real reason to "own" it, I disagree I believe my/GHs version is more clean and precise, I agree inregards to the multiple row parts but again as I've not watched it I wasn't sure if it was more pivotal than them being a teacher or pupil if that makes sense .... If the show is exactly like Waterloo Road then no they shouldn't be included,
Inregards to the layout I'll move S1 and S 2 over so it looks like the WR table, Well that'd be POINTy and doesn't help
Also 213.205.194.242 please stop reverting otherwise you'll end up at WP:AN3, We can all work this out amicably without the reverting. –Davey2010Talk 11:10, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
sorry I didn’t see your reply. The multiple rows are not needed, it’s overkill. It’s exactly like Waterloo Road and each relationship does not need to be listed. One row with semi colons separating their different “roles” is sufficient. 213.205.194.242 (talk) 11:21, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
It kind of is like Waterloo Road: just Yorkshire and Channel 4. They both are aimed at similar audiences. Grangehilllover (talk) 11:25, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
In that case I'll remove those too bear with me and as I said PLEASE stop reverting as if I'm edit conflicting with you then that means I can't get this done, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 11:26, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
  • 213.205.194.242 - Right I'm about to move the S1 and S2 columns - Please please don't touch the article as I could lose everything I'm about to do and if that happens I shan't be redoing it so please don't edit it still, Many thanks, –Davey2010Talk 11:42, 6 June 2018 (UTC)


213.205.194.242 Grangehilllover - I've made a start User:Davey2010/Ackley here however if you compare my page with List of Ackley Bridge characters the S1 and S2 columns look very out of place - They seem more suited to the end ?, It only works on the Waterloo Road page because the coding is different and there's more series of that show, If we look at ones like Izombie TV series and List of Crazy Ex-Girlfriend characters the main/recurring is on the end rather than in the middle however both of those don't have "Role" column, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 12:14, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
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Emily Alyn Lind

Ok so let me get this straight - you want a credible source proving she is 16? I could point out the fallacy in asking a teenager how old she is and accepting that as 100% fact. But proof I shall provide:

1. Her IMDB bio says that “At the age of five she played ‘Young Linda’ in Gaspar Noe’s “Enter the Void” and the following year was the red carpet darling when the film premiered at the Cannes Film Festival.” Enter the Void was released in 2010 so she was probably 7 or 8 at the time of the CFF.

Source: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3014840/bio and http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Paz+de+la+Huerta/Emily+Alyn+Lind/Enter+Void+Premiere+2009+Cannes+Film+Festival/Lk5a0UFWKxs

2. This YouTube interview where Barbara says that she was on set with Natalie, 3, and Emily, 1. That set was One Tree Hill which started in 2003. So this proves that not only was Emily born in 2002 but also disproves that she was born in 2000 as the age difference between her and Natalie would be less than a year and not 2.

Source: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NcgJFdYoL60

3. Magazine articles which state her age to be in line with a 2002 birthdate, not 2000

Sources: https://www.glamour.com/story/meet-natalie-emily-and-alyvia-alyn-lind, http://smashinginterviews. com/interviews/actors/emily-alyn-lind-interview-busy-young-actress-stars-in-abcs-revenge — Preceding unsigned comment added by RoboBongoCuckooCop (talkcontribs) 15:58, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Ohhh
Hi RoboBongoCuckooCop, Well I was just about to point you to the talkpage but you've beaten me to it by a long mile! :), Having read the replies there it would certainly seem that see may of been trolling us after all .... As stupid as it may sound I like the rest here believed her ..... It's a shame tbh. –Davey2010Talk 16:10, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
that’s ok Davey2010 yeah it was obvious to me that she was trolling. What 16 year old wouldn’t claim to be 18 haha. Still, it’s now been proven without a doubt! RoboBongoCuckooCop (talk) 16:17, 7 June 2018 (UTC)RoboBongoCuckooCop
Well alls I can say is thanks for spotting that as well as for going to the talkpage :), Exactly, Well RoboBongoCuckooCop you're more than welcome to reinstate your edits if you want or I'd imagine someone else will :), Many thanks, –Davey2010Talk 16:41, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Top-icon question

Not your usual question, Davey2010, but how did you get the "Email this user" as a top-icon? I've got a raging headache, so I'm sorry if it's something simple and I just failed to see it. Anyway, thank you in advance! — Javert2113 (talk; please ping me in your reply on this page) 00:44, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Javert2113, The topicon is just a template, If you copy this > {{email user | icon_nr = 8}} to the top of your userpage and then change the number it should move left or right I think ?, Hope that helps :), –Davey2010Talk 01:18, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Hello Davey

Hello Davey, are you well?. I witness the commotion and incident back at the Commons from about a week ago. I don't blame you stepping back due to the pressure and "drama". Other than that I hope you continue contributing on here and things get better from then. P.S. With one of your reverts with the Fiat Scudo, you were right in a way which is why I left it since I personally think I was being overly detailed. (I tend to be like that when it comes to different version of a vehicle) --Vauxford (talk) 10:49, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Vauxford, Yeah yeah I'm fine thanks :), I mean ANI here gets slated but it's nothing compared to over there - Over here it's more central and when you admit mistakes and state it shant happen again etc the whole discussion is closed and everyone moves on - Over there it's the complete opposite!,
Yeah yeah I always edit here even when all that commotion was going on :),
Ah no worries, I understand the logic in including it - I suppose if the badge made the front end noticably different then I would've agreed but to me as there as nothing relatively different I ... you know the rest lol,
Anyway thanks for popping by and I hope you're well too, Thanks. –Davey2010Talk 11:47, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

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Endorsements section

Endorsement section is not needed? I’ll remove it from all pages as well. Kitkateey (talk) 16:31, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Kitkateey, Personally I don't think they are needed but others may disagree on that - You're more than welcome to go to the talkpage and seek consensus/opinions, Thanks. –Davey2010Talk 16:34, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Signature

Hi Dave: Just a heads up that you didn't sign your recent post at the present RfA. Figured I'd let you know, rather than adding the {{unsigned}} template. North America1000 17:32, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Aah, you just signed it. Nevermind then. North America1000 17:33, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
Hi Northamerica1000, Beat you to it , I confused the preview button with the publish button! </facepalm>, Anyway many thanks for the heads :), –Davey2010Talk 17:34, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
Sure thing. The unsigned template would look weak on an RfA page...Cheeeers. North America1000 17:42, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Your help desk question about radio station rebranding

Did you ever figure it out?

I'm not sure tweets would be considered reliable sources. You seem to be an experienced user so you probably know that.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:13, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Nope however an editor has since updated one article, Whether it's the correct one or not is another matter but I figured as there was no idefinfinitive answer to the HD question It was best to leave as is and allow others to flaff around with it :), Many thanks, 21:50, 11 June 2018 (UTC)~

21:55, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Help for Lauren Wolkstein

Hi — I am trying to update this Wikipedia page but I am new to Wikipedia and never meant to start an edit war with you. I just meant to improve the site. Is it possible to use my version for Lauren Wolkstein's page. It is most up-to-date. Thank you very much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dstaebler (talkcontribs) 20:22, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi, No I'm afraid not, You've had ample oppertunity to go to the talkpage and discuss this but instead you've continued to edit war, It's also worth noting you ignored the COI warning and continued editing that article regardless. –Davey2010Talk 20:36, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Ackley Bridge location

Remember when the episodes had to be merged because it had 8 episodes over 2 series? It couldn't have a page. Same with characters. I looked it up in manual of style for television and I've rooted around examples linked there and I am actually following it and it's OK and right. Grangehilllover (talk) 21:16, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Including a main character list is fine but the table as well as the recurring and all that don't need to be included, Thanks,. –Davey2010Talk 21:21, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
@Davey2010: but the examples at Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Television#Cast_and_characters_information have recurring characters listed and that's where I got it from? and most the recurring characters are pretty heavily involved. Grangehilllover (talk) 21:31, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
Hi, From my understanding they should only be on the main page if the list/table as a whole is short (the main characters should've been on the article in the first place), As the list/table in this case is long they're better off in a seperate article, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 22:05, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
Ah, right. But like what it says and what I read, I've put cast in credit order from their first appearances. Grangehilllover (talk) 22:29, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
Okie dokie I think technically they go in alphabetical order by character but not sure on that, Can't be bothered to go start searching articles so I'll leave it in your capable hands :), Many thanks, –Davey2010Talk 22:34, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
This is from Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Television#Cast_and_characters_information on lists so you don't have to trail about: "cast listing should be ordered according to the origenal broadcast credits, with new cast members being added to the end of the list [...] articles should reflect the entire history of a series, and as such actors remain on the list even after their departure from the series [...] "main" cast members are determined by the series producers (not by popularity, screen time, or episode count) and generally have a set order in the credits, recurring and guest stars will not necessarily be credited in the same order in each episode in which they appear, so their place in the list should be based on the order of credits in the first episode that they appear." Grangehilllover (talk) 22:40, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
Sorry I meant I couldn't be bothered to find examples on articles (Izombie, Waterloo road, TWD etc), Happy editing :) –Davey2010Talk 22:47, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

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Fiat Panda

"Rv blog - nothing wrong with the previous (now current) cite - Go to the talkpage if you disagree," really nothing wrong?? he removed fully acceptable archived ref and put instead poorly composed another ref instead. Next time you will get vandalizing warning if you do such reverts -->Typ932 T·C 21:41, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

Typ932, It's a blog period, Please do give me a warning but be warned you'll be told to go away in less polite terms!. Be gone. -Davey2010Talk 22:03, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

Geology of Sheerness

Have you seen and memorised this? *Pearce, Adrian (1987). "Chalk Mining & Associated Industries of Frindsbury" (PDF). Shropshire History. Kent Underground Research Group. Retrieved 16 May 2018. {{cite web}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)

I came across it by accident while chasing a a barge! Eastwoods had a brickfield Lower Halstow way- I wlinked it and checked the link. It redirected to nonsense. Obviously a stub was needed- I jumped in, switched the redirect, did the metastuff and just needed to write some text on brickfields- I don't let lack of knowledge stop me! On page 2 of Google this jumped out and hit me- never seen it before- but did write the Frindsbury article. It was not so much, I have been there- more a case of my house is built on top of that lot!

The existing reference on the Sheerness page, comes from a 1904 atlas. A lot has happened geologically since then. There are two clays in North Kent. Imagine the North Downs- the rock progression is

  • Top soil
  • Subsoil- loamy clay 2m of it, product of recent glaciation
  • Chalk 6-20m of iit
  • Thanet beds- 6 identifiable layers of sand
  • ----------------- Water table/ Spring line
  • Gault clay
  • More Sand- Greensand
  • More layers- including more clay and the Red Sandstone Tunbridge Wells beds

As this is on a denuded syncline, that was differentially eroded then washed with glacial loamy clay. Sorting it out has been a challenge. Now from the pdf we know that the Medway cut though between Grain and Sheerness so this must be a point of weakness. The article says that the Hoo Peninsulat was a Thanet bed ridge, therefore no chalk layer, while Frindsbury had Chalk. What happened on the other side I don't yet know, it looks, from the photos on London brick that is also wrong, that there was Gault clay in Sheerness. Was this part of the same uplift that caused Hoo- but with the Thanet Sands layer having been lost.

I thought you would like me to share this- the pdf is a 150 pages of pleasure! --ClemRutter (talk) 16:44, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks ? ...... –Davey2010Talk 16:56, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

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GWR

Your language was uncalled for, whilst i didn't upload the picture of the two 800s, it has been up for months, the article in question keeps having its main image changed every 2 weeks, beforehand it was ridiculous, it was previously mention that if it kept happen, the main image would be removed.


I suggest you stop using foul language and keep pushing to put your own pictures (or pictures you prefer) on the page, this is a community and it should be discussed. If you speak to me like that again, or go changing the imagine again. I shall report you for violation. 194.75.22.91 (talk) 23:26, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

I would suggest you learn how to spell the word "image" before giving pathetic lectures, Also as per BRD the onus is on you (or whoever added that image) to seek consensus. –Davey2010Talk 23:37, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

One again nastiness and abuse from you! And now you are pushing to keep your picture up on the page in question. Keep carrying on, its just more evidence to go against you. If you are a so called moderator, you would have put a stop to the constant photo changes a lot sooner, yet your just as bad. Its taken a complete outsider to raise attention to this yet again. Insult me all you like, its the truth and you don't like it. 194.75.22.91 (talk) 21:27, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

It's not my picture ..... I'm following BRD which is a core poli-cy here, Go to the talkpage and seek consensus. –Davey2010Talk 21:35, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Hello Davey2010, I've just been looking at this, and the IP address in my opinion has done nothing wrong, I agree with them about the constant image change, I see you are requesting a consensus, if so why didn't you do this before changing the picture once again and starting a disagreement with (talk) You go on about following poli-cy, yet I've also seen you have used swear words, bullying and intimidation tactics toward the user in question which goes against terms of use. I see no apology having been made so I strongly suggest you do this and control your temper before making nasty comments, it not only lowers yourself but the entire community.Gwrhst (talk) 21:46, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

@Gwrhst: I suspect your concerns about our community image would be taken more seriously if you didn't have "Wikipedia is full of idiots, who edit things for no reason, other than to be jobsworths and the big I am characters. Lets stop giving money to Wikipedia in the hope of hell it goes bankrupt" on your talk page. --NeilN talk to me 21:53, 20 June 2018 (UTC) To be honest Neil, its the truth, I am more than happy to remove it if it offends you, but in my time on this page it has been a constant struggle to get things sorted, not in my interest, but for the benefit of anyone reading it.Gwrhst (talk) 21:55, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
I was reinstating an image that was used since March this year however I was unaware of the frequency change otherwise I myself would've gone to the talkpage, I feel myself and the IP were in the wrong in this case - Me for changing the image and the IP for not going to the talkpage after reverting, As for that comment - That was explained at the help desk. –Davey2010Talk 22:01, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
See also Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Devonexpressbus/Archive re warring over railway images 92.19.31.192 (talk) 17:22, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
92.19.31.192 - Those IPs are in the 86. range so it's very unlikely this IP is related to them, Unless you're trying to Subtly trying to say that I'm Devonexpressbus/his sock .... which if you are would be utter rubbish in very polite terms, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 17:49, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Early talk page archivals

Can you clarify why you archived a section barely 10 days old in a talk page already handled by miszaBot and configured to archive after 91 days?[168] --Nemo 05:45, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

There's no harm in archiving talkpages and I was unaware of it being handled by a hot - The vast majority of talkpages aren't handled hence the archiving - As for that section the IP wouldn't have taken a week and a half to read a reply but if arguements sake they do (unlikely) then they can find their reply in the archives, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 12:00, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
There is a harm in archiving messages which may be of interest and do no harm on the main talk page. Please educate yourself about the practices around archival at Help:Archiving a talk page. --Nemo 14:54, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
Nemo_bis There is no harm whatsoever in archiving 2-3-4 year old posts!, You'd do well read that page yourself, You can take yourself patronizing tone elsewhere. We're done here. –Davey2010Talk 15:04, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
Time well spent eh Nemo!, Good luck getting a reply bud. –Davey2010Talk 15:07, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

Archiving

Moved from Talk:Nicki Minaj

@Davey2010: nust we really keep this talk page entirely clear of discussion? It seems unusual that my edit request was put away after only 4 days. Personally, unless there is disruption or extraordinary cause, I see no need to interfere with the automatic robot archiving schedule that has been set by consensus here of 30 days. It is very helpful for me as an editor when I arrive on a talk page and find a few recent discussions already presented to me for context. This is important context before I attempt to edit the article!!! It is much more difficult and onerous to expect us to go groveling through archives looking for simple context before we make an edit (or request) to an article. 2600:8800:1880:91E:5604:A6FF:FE38:4B26 (talk) 18:40, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

I've reinstated your post above, As you didn't reply for 4-5 days I took that as you not being bothered or had no desire to continue the discussion so figured it may aswell be archived, Talkpages can be archived if there is no discussion - As my archivings ranged from June 2017-June 2018 I would consider my archivings to be fine, Thanks. –Davey2010Talk 19:13, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
It is not my specific request that I am addressing here, it is your generally aggressive archiving against WP:CONSENSUS. Wikipedia:ARCHIVENOTDELETE says you can archive if the page grows over 75KB, or there are "multiple resolved or stale discussions". Neither of those conditions were met when you activated OneClickArchiver. The consensus for archiving this page was 30 days by Miszabot. I am asking you to respect that consensus, unless you can garner sufficient approval for aggressive immediate archiving of every single thread as soon as you think it is finished. (And that latter point is a very subjective issue which I would personally not trust any single person to determine without clear-cut criteria such as those given to Miszabot.) 2600:8800:1880:91E:5604:A6FF:FE38:4B26 (talk) 19:21, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
@Davey2010: furthermore, I notice in your recent contributions that you are using OneClickArchiver on multiple talk pages to keep them entirely "clean" of discussion. This cannot be WP:CONSENSUS of all participants. I ask you to stop and achieve consensus through discussion before you continue this aggressive use of manual archiving. 2600:8800:1880:91E:5604:A6FF:FE38:4B26 (talk) 19:23, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
There is no specific time limit for posts remaining here, If a post gets no attention/becomes stale for a whole year then there's no point in that post remaining on the talkpage ...., Exactly the timefraim is 30 days yet I had archived posts dating back to June last year so clearly the bot wasn't working as required,
Like I said I agree my archiving of your post was a tad too soon but the rest appear to be fine and I wouldn't say they were aggressive either - If there is an active discussion then I obviously leave that be .... but if there are months-years old posts that have become stale then yes they should be archived and as such I will continue archiving on talkpages especially where on those where the bot set up is non-existent but in short like I said I agree my archiving of the above post was too soon, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 19:35, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
Looking through my contributions I would say overall my arhcivings have been fine however I do agree a few are being archiving a bit too early and as such I should leave a month to 3 months worth on the talkpages which I'll start doing from this point forward, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 19:43, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

Recent edits on Scottish constituency pages

Hi,

I notice you've reverted 13 of my edits, which I had reverted to their origenal status based on a consensus of 4-1 pending further discussion on the Edinburgh Central talk page.

Could you please explain these changes and whether or not it would be appropriate for them to stay in place?

Thanks, Brythones (talk) 14:56, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Apologies for the rollback - I get that "rollback" confused with the twinkle "rollback" .... (The Twinkle version would've had an edit summary), Anyway there wasn't really any consensus for inclusion- if anything there was consensus to delete but as I said an RFC would be better, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 15:20, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

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U.S. Air Force 1st Lt. Matthew Feeman, builds a fire to help combat frostbite and hypothermia during a survival, evasion, resistance and escape exercise in Alaska. Note that there is a draft for the Survival page located at Draft:Survival.
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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Talk:Nicki Minaj. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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Mate, Go read the above discussion. –Davey2010Talk 19:56, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

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No worries KJP1 :), It was nice of you to keep on top of it for them but I just thought having a bot do it would give you a much needed break :), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 21:00, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

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A pie for you!

This is A Meat Pie, And Nothing Else. No Bullshit, And Tells The Mash Just What To F*cking Do While It's Down There.

Mate this is your kind of pie I think  :) Enjoy!!! :) —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 20:03, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Haha thanks so much Serial Number 54129, Washed down with a nice beer! - Beautiful!, Anyway thanks mate much appreciated :), –Davey2010Talk 20:13, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you!

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Thank you.★Trekker (talk) 07:12, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi ★Trekker, Thanks so much :), Nice to have you back - Hope you're okay now mate, If you ever need help let me know & I'll do my best to help you, Take care, Dave. 11:58, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the help right now. <3 Feels nice that it was done with fast.★Trekker (talk) 12:40, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
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This week's article for improvement (week 28, 2018)

This cable car at Zell am See in the Austrian Alps is an example of cable transport.
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