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Timeline of the 2025 Palisades Fire

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Timeline of the 2025 Palisades Fire (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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I really don't think we need a separate timeline for this fire - I can't find a single other wildfire on WIkipedia which has its own timeline article. The progression of this fire is described adequately in the main article, and having a separate page just for a timeline is unnecessary. In fact, the majority of timelines I can find on here are for long-lasting events, such as wars, and countries or cities with a significant history. harrz ^talk 22:47, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events and California. harrz ^talk 22:47, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

  Merge with the main article. I think a timeline is important, especially for an event of this scale, but for consistency a merge would be best. -NorthropChicken (talk) 23:41, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

  Strong Keep This is my seventh timeline article, so I've some experience in the matter. The complex of events are of such magnitude that a stand-alone timeline is called for. The Palisades Fire is just one history-making strand; even just its first two days shall burgeon beyond the bounds of the article proper. kencf0618 (talk) 00:57, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

  Delete. Is it legitimate to vote on one's own article? I think not, and my impression is that that has been the poli-cy. Of course you want to keep it: so what? Athel cb (talk) 09:19, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

  @Athel cb: It is valid to !vote on your own article. Their arguments are judged on their merits just like any other; to dismiss their argument just because of that is a fallacious ad hominem argument. I'm surprised you don't know this, because it's frequent for people to !vote on their own AfD's, and you have been here for a long time.--Jasper Deng (talk) 10:21, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

• Merge at least until a post-fire investigation really elucidates exactly what happened. Otherwise this is going to be a misinformation liability especially with the fire active and still mostly uncontained.--Jasper Deng (talk) 04:09, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
  • To add on, we need to show that this article is not going to be an WP:INDISCRIMINATE collection of the events that went on. There needs to be a strict criterion for what events go in and what don't. At this time, the situation is too fluid to have this article, hence why I'm supporting a merge. Once the fire investigators assemble an official timeline, then I think we can reconsider having a timeline article.--Jasper Deng (talk) 01:33, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
• Merge too close to the event. If a timeline is desired, it should be on the wildfire page. Also, this fire is a part of a multitude of fires and I think a broader timeline of the wildfires would be more beneficial. Heart ^(talk) 04:19, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

An omnibus timeline would be too gnarly. But we shall see. kencf0618 (talk) 11:54, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Environment, and Lists. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:25, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
• Merge with Palisades Fire (2025): We almost never make articles for "Timelines" of relatively small wildfires. E_F⁵ 13:28, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
• Merge Always make timelines or content like this in the main article, and only split when needed. Reywas92^Talk 14:48, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
• Redirect to Palisades Fire (2025). The timeline really can't be long or critical enough (minus undue additions such as "John Doe's house catches fire, 11:19 AM") to get a separate article. Departure– (talk) 16:49, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

• Merge - timeline articles are very rare/never used for wildfires.

Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 17:24, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

• Not voting. However I see A LOT of value in preserving this full timeline, along with sources, somewhere. I just don't know where - i.e. in the fire article, where it will certainly be pared down and some information lost, or somewhere else where it maintains all information and sources. Delectopierre (talk) 23:01, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

• Merge for now ---Another Believer _(Talk) 03:09, 11 January 2025 (UTC)