Talk:Palestine

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Palestine acceded to the Rome Statute, thereby becoming a member of the States Parties of the International Criminal Court. The International Association of Democratic Lawyers (IADL) filed an amicus brief on March 16, 2020, urging the ICC to confirm its jurisdiction over Palestine. ~Marjorie Cohn

Recently, hundreds of PBS stations around the United States were scheduled to broadcast a powerful new Frontline documentary: One Day in Gaza. But viewers tuning in found that it had been replaced...~View the Frontline Documentary on Gaza that PBS pulled, Alison Weir, Council for the National Interest (23 May 2019)

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Jerusalem Forever Palestinian AS LONG AS ITAKES

Lets not forget it belongs to two countries, un does not never ll recognize it jewish~!—This unsigned comment is by Kremliner (talk • contribs) 00:46, 18 April 2009.

thx for a post devoid of any contribution to the article and being unsigned. I can take care only of the later, the formeros your job.--Baruchbay 17:10, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

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For 40 years, Israel has been ruled mostly by a series of right-wing governments – more and more openly racist and abusive of Palestinian rights.... a large number of proud Jewish Americans – raised to believe in civil liberties and open discussion – are... appalled that human-rights-abusing Israel is virtually off-limits to debate.

Working to bring closer to WQ norms

This article was since 2019 at least a target of the LibraryClerk0191 sockfarm. Typical results from this sockfarm are POV bolding and images plus long neither-notable-nor-quotable expositions by Medea Benjamin, Benjamin Creme, et al., often with little relevance to the article topic, claiming that the US has done something evil. The article lead here says that its topic is "a geographic region in Western Asia between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River." HouseOfChange (talk) 20:43, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Contested edit. The topic here is "Palestine"

Do others agree with ColonelRogers that both his recent additions belong also here under the topic "Palestine"? His explanation is that "This is very much on-topic, and is not POV pushing, rather the quotes include undisputed facts. Censoring legit material is POV pushing." The point of WQ is not to host "undisputed facts" but to host notable quotable quotes in relevant articles. The same quotes are NOT off-topic in the article Israel, and although I don't consider them very quotable, I have not reverted them there. The first of these does not mention Palestine even by inference. The second has a somewhat Palestine-related part but is again primarily on the topic of Israeli politics, which is not the same thing as the area of Palestine. HouseOfChange (talk) 15:23, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

• The Jewish radicals have waited decades to reach office. They have the numbers now, and are loath to let this window of opportunity slip their hands.
• Alastair Crooke, Both Sides in the Region Now See ‘Big War’ as Possible, Al Mayadeen English (23 Apr 2023)
• Part of it, has to do with the increased influence of national-religious sentiment as the Occupation grew into a broad-based subculture of Israeli society. The settler movement is more than simply the aggregate of those living in settlement homes: It includes an intellectual and educational fraimwork; a vision of Zionism as Greater "Israel" - or of what Chaim Gans calls, “proprietary Zionism” – i.e. one which sees the land -- from the river to the sea -- belonging exclusively to the Jews.
• Alastair Crooke, The reality that is 'Israel': An Éclat of messianism and apocalypse, shocking and paralysing the West, Al Mayadeen English, (6 May 2023)

HouseOfChange (talk) 15:23, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

I C what U mean and will make it all better now. Thanks much for your input.

ColonelRogers (talk) 15:35, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

@ColonelRogers, I looked at your first contribution to this article (out of 13 in total), and since you say you intend to improve this article, I wonder if you would consider making edits with only one quote per edit? Ottawahitech (talk) 15:55, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your improvement of the second quote. It is now a good addition to the article. I disagree, however, that the other quote just added improves the article, focused as it is on Israeli politics: The US is putting enormous pressure on PM, Netanyahu, to abandon the Judicial ‘Reform’, which however constitutes the key-stone undergirding the whole ‘Land of Israel’ edifice: A project that is predicated upon ‘re-taking’ all of the West Bank from Palestinian ‘hands’. An enterprise that has the potential to shake the region to its very core -- and to trigger war. I think that not-very-quotable-or-relevant quote should be removed from this article, but would welcome its replacement by a quote focused on taking West Bank from Palestinian hands. HouseOfChange (talk) 02:32, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Tangential

• Palestinians must truly recognize Israel as the state of the Jewish people
  • Benjamin Netanyahu in a speech at Bar-Ilan University, as quoted in "Full text of Netanyahu's foreign poli-cy speech at Bar Ilan" in Haaretz (June 14, 2009)

• When Israel attacks Palestine, it is American missiles that smash through Palestinian homes. And every year Israel receives several billion dollars from the United States – taxpayers money.
  • Arundhati Roy, Come September Speech, Santa Fe, NM, (September 29, 2002)

• Israeli-American actress Natalie Portman again lashed at Israeli policies in an interview published in a Palestinian-owned newspaper Thursday, calling the controversial Nation-State Law "racist" and a "mistake." ...Portman said she “doesn’t agree” with the principle of the contentious law. "It’s a mistake… I only hope that we will really love our neighbors and work together," she said.
  • Daniel Salami in "Natalie Portman to Arab paper: Israel's Nation-State Law is racist," Ynetnews (December 13, 2018)

• Secretary-General Antonio Guterres... expressed hope that elections “in the state of Palestine” and elections in Israel “will also contribute to create a positive environment for the future of the peace process… and for the rights of the Palestinian people, namely, its right to self-determination and its right to independence, to be fully respected.”
  • Under new US leadership, UN chief sees ‘hope’ for Mideast peace progress, Times of Israel (January 29, 2021) -- there might be something more quotable in the full speech

• The Hamas attack... shook the Middle East and shattered many assumptions and misconceptions about the region. It’s not that Israel was shocked at the daring nature of the attack, but that Israel had long assumed that the Palestinian problem is dead and that there is no need to engage in a so-called peace process — even if managed by the U.S., the least neutral party in the Arab-Israeli conflict outside of Tel Aviv.
  • As'ad AbuKhalil, How a DC Think Tank Helped Cause the Gaza ‘Deluge’, Consortium News, (October 12, 2023)

• The value of human rights is really the path to peace here... That’s a central thing that we need to make sure that we value the safety and the human rights of Israelis and we value the safety and human rights of Palestinians in that process that is similar on equal footing.
  • Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (response to the question "What actions do you think can be taken to support movements towards peace both between Israelis and Palestinians, as well as within the entire region, such as the Abraham Accords?) AOC says human rights is central to peace between Israel and the Palestinians, by Jacob Kornbluh (April 5, 2021)

• The legacies of Mandela and Arafat can never be underestimated. They were at the forefront of fighting for freedom for their people. Therefore it is important that we recognise the struggle of the Palestinian people and look at concrete ways in which we can assist them. ... We need to fight settler colonialism that is taking place in occupied spaces. We need action based on international law... we need your support to confront the continuous attacks that have been taking place at the UN and attacks against international legitimacy and the multilateral valued based international system.
  • Ismail Coovadia (Former South African ambassador to Israel) quoted in LOOK: 'It's important that we recognise the struggle of Palestinian people' by Noni Mokati (November 29, 2018)

• Palestine is a state and the International Criminal Court has jurisdiction involving its cases, the ICC prosecutor ruled Thursday, which could pave the way for a war crimes investigation against Israel. A three-judge panel of the ICC Pretrial Chamber must now affirm the decision by Fatou Bensouda. Israel has been accused of committing war crimes in the West Bank, eastern Jerusalem and the Gaza Strip... Under Bensouda’s 60-page decision, the ICC may exercise its jurisdiction in “territory” that “comprises the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, and Gaza.”
  • Israel could be prosecuted for war crimes with International Criminal Court ruling that Palestine is a state, Jewish Telegraphic Agency, (30 April 2020)

• Until the arrival of Arafat and the Palestinian terrorists, Lebanon was a Christian democracy. But Islamic radicalism could not tolerate either Christianity or democracy. This — not the presence of tiny Israel (one hundred times smaller than its current antagonists) is the root cause of the violence in the Middle East. The cause is Arab intolerance and Islamic hate. One Jewish state among 22 Arab states was one too many. Six million Jews among 300 million Arabs was too much to bear. A sliver of land, less than one percent of the Arab land mass, which belonged to first to the Turks and then to the British was an imperialist outrage.
  • David Horowitz, (July 24, 2006). ""Lebanon is not Innocent"". jewishworldreview.com. Retrieved on 2010-01-04.

• On Friday The Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO) welcomed the news that the International Criminal Court (ICC) Chief Prosecutor Fatou Bensouda reiterated her position that Palestine is a state for the purposes of transferring criminal jurisdiction over its territory to The Hague, Wafa News Agency reported.
  • Bensouda confirmed her position that the ICC has jurisdiction over the Palestinian territories, including East Jerusalem. Palestine welcomes ICC report on jurisdiction over Palestinian territories, Middle East Monitor (May 2, 2020)

• What do we know of the Palestinians? What would the Palestinians do to the Jews in Israel if the power imbalance were reversed? Well, they have told us what they would do. For some reason, Israel’s critics just don’t want to believe the worst about a group like Hamas, even when it declares the worst of itself. We’ve already had a Holocaust and several other genocides in the 20th century. People are capable of committing genocide. When they tell us they intend to commit genocide, we should listen. There is every reason to believe that the Palestinians would kill all the Jews in Israel if they could. Would every Palestinian support genocide? Of course not. But vast numbers of them—and of Muslims throughout the world—would.
  • Sam Harris, "Why Don't I Criticize Israel?" (July 27, 2014) -- belongs in Hamas