Content-Length: 11009 | pFad | http://lwn.net/Articles/594906/

US Supreme Court looks at patents again [LWN.net]
|
|
Subscribe / Log in / New account

US Supreme Court looks at patents again

US Supreme Court looks at patents again

Posted Apr 15, 2014 17:09 UTC (Tue) by marcH (subscriber, #57642)
In reply to: US Supreme Court looks at patents again by giraffedata
Parent article: US Supreme Court looks at patents again

> Lawyers are arguing that an invention implemented with a computer is less patentable than an invention not implemented with a computer.

I don't think they were arguing this. The discussion looked more like: is this "invention" just an abstract (and unpatentable) idea simply running on a computer, or is there anything extra?

> While there may be a single abstract threshold for all inventions, such as "the invention isn't obvious," there would be a more concrete threshold for each of the various kinds of inventions.

I don't think there is any more concrete threshold that this - with or without computers. Can you give some example? Preferably outside computers to keep it simple. Preferably in the patent field to keep it relevant.


to post comments

US Supreme Court looks at patents again

Posted Apr 17, 2014 17:56 UTC (Thu) by giraffedata (guest, #1954) [Link]

Lawyers are arguing that an invention implemented with a computer is less patentable than an invention not implemented with a computer.
I don't think they were arguing this. The discussion looked more like: is this "invention" just an abstract (and unpatentable) idea simply running on a computer, or is there anything extra?

I think that's just the basis of the argument that an invention implemented with a computer is less patentable than an invention not implemented with a computer.

We have to remember something that I think gets overlooked a lot in analyzing the so-called "software patents": the inventor isn't claiming a piece of software or algorithm; he's claiming the machine (a nice, tangible classic patent-worthy thing) that does a certain thing because of programming.

There is a theory that when such a machine is based on a general purpose computer, then it's probably not so much a new invention as an obvious way of using an old one, and thus not patentable.

So I think you're saying the discussion centered on whether this fell in the "probably" category or not. But if there hadn't been a general purpose computer at the bottom of it, the discussion probably wouldn't have been necessary, hence the idea that when an invention is implemented with a computer, it's less patentable.


Copyright © 2025, Eklektix, Inc.
Comments and public postings are copyrighted by their creators.
Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds









ApplySandwichStrip

pFad - (p)hone/(F)rame/(a)nonymizer/(d)eclutterfier!      Saves Data!


--- a PPN by Garber Painting Akron. With Image Size Reduction included!

Fetched URL: http://lwn.net/Articles/594906/

Alternative Proxies:

Alternative Proxy

pFad Proxy

pFad v3 Proxy

pFad v4 Proxy