Property talk:P5922

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ANZSRC 2008 FoR ID
Australia and New Zealand Standard Research Classification 2008 identifier for a field of research. 1419 nodes at 3 levels: 22 Divisions, 157 Groups, 1340 Fields
Applicable "stated in" valueAustralian and New Zealand Standard Research Classification: Fields of Research, 2008 edition (Q96781701)
Has qualitynumeric identifier (Q93868746)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainacademic discipline (Q11862829) or branch of science (Q2465832)
Allowed values\d{2,6}
Examplemedical and health science (Q56679322)11 (RDF)
dentistry (Q12128)1105 (RDF)
oral and maxillofacial surgery (Q504033)110504 (RDF)
Sourcehttps://www.abs.gov.au/Ausstats/abs@.nsf/Latestproducts/1297.0Main%20Features52008
Formatter URLhttp://purl.org/au-research/vocabulary/anzsrc-for/2008/$1
http://vocabs.ands.org.au/repository/api/lda/anzsrc-for/resource?uri=http://purl.org/au-research/vocabulary/anzsrc-for/2008/$1
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P5922 (Q57320717)
Related to country Australia (Q408) (See 200 others)
New Zealand (Q664) (See 50 others)
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Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Total792
Main statement789 out of 1,238 (64% complete)99.6% of uses
Qualifier30.4% of uses
Search for values
[create Create a translatable help page (preferably in English) for this property to be included here]
Format “\d{2,6}: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5922#Format, SPARQL
Item “ANZSRC 2020 FoR ID (P8529): Items with this property should also have “ANZSRC 2020 FoR ID (P8529)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5922#Item P8529, search, SPARQL
Scope is as main value (Q54828448): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5922#Scope, SPARQL
Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5922#Entity types
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5922#Type Q11862829, Q2465832, SPARQL

SEO

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Shouldn't we also create FOR's sister thesaurus:

Socio-economic Objective (SEO). Appendix 2 SEO Objectives by Code Number.

991 nodes at 4 levels: 5 Sectors, 17 Divisions, 119 Groups, 850 Objectives.

eg SECTOR B ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT > DIVISION 82 PLANT PRODUCTION AND PLANT PRIMARY PRODUCTS > GROUP 8201 FORESTRY> 820102 Harvesting and Transport of Forest Products.

Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be available as LOD, but we can talk to ANDS to LODify it. Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 10:34, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Vladimir Alexiev: Good idea. I've belatedly added it to the Aussie property suggestion list. --99of9 (talk) 05:01, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Format constraint needs fixing

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This format constraint is wrong - almost half of ANZSRC 2008 codes start with 0 (see the list at StatsNZ so the regex should be [0-9]\d{1,5}. Can someone who knows how please fix this? --Zeborah (talk) 20:13, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Zeborah: thanks, I've changed this. [0-9]\d{1,5} is equivalent to \d{2,6} (i.e. between 2 and 6 digits of any value 0-9). --99of9 (talk) 00:51, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Attempting to complete this property

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A small group of editors has been discussing this property and the related property ANZSRC 2020 FoR ID (P8529). We would like to get these controlled vocabularies completely matched in Wikidata so that they can be used to assist in discovery of NZ and Aus research. Pinging @99of9:, @Zeborah:, @Pru.mitchell: and @Ambrosia10: who have been involved. Some of us are working on an upload of dissertations from New Zealand which will make use of the ANZSRC vocabularies for main subject statements (there is no project page for that work yet but if you are interested to know more please ask!).

Our impression was that these vocabularies have not been mapped completely because of uncertainty about how to deal with some issues. We discussed this by video call and have agreed the following. I am posting here to advise other editors of what we have decided.

1. The vocabularies include 2/4/6 digit codes. It was intended by ANZSRC that only the 6 digit ones would be applied to documents and the 2 & 4 digit codes are administrative, but we will map them all as libraries are using them all.

2. We discussed how to deal with complex items. We agreed that we will create new Wikidata items for complex terms, with "has part" to relate them to the individual terms. There is discretion not to do this though, for instance we looked at the ANZSRC term "geriatrics and gerontology". In Wikidata geriatrics is a subclass of gerontology, so we felt it made sense to map the term to gerontology rather than create a new combined term. We also looked at an example (orthopedics) where there are two more or less identical Wikidata items, with a "said to be the same as" statement, and in choosing which to use we were swayed by the number of other identifiers each had, and which one included the relevant English Wikipedia article.

3. We added the qualifier "named as" to the identifier statement, so we can see the Wikidata and ANZSRC terms side-by-side (an approach already in use with other controlled vocabularies).

4. We discussed the "not elsewhere classified" (NEC) terms, and felt on balance they should be included, as they are used quite often. We think it is generally appropriate to map them to the broader concept they are part of. That would mean a Wikidata item might have both a 4 digit code and a 6 digit NEC code applied to it. Within the dissertations project there could be some work after the data upload to find dissertations mapped to NEC categories and adjust their main subjects where better terms exist.

5. We agreed on an approach for indigenous research items: make an item for each. Then make them a “subclass of” both e.g. “astronomy and cosmology” and also of “Māori knowledge systems”.

We welcome comments, discussion, ideas from other interested editors, and invite you to help complete the Mix'n'Match catalogues 2008 and 2020 with us. You can reply here or contact me, DrThneed (talk) 01:04, 5 January 2022 (UTC).[reply]