Förderer relishes these problem-solving parts of being a cinematographer — merging the real and unreal — which he likens to “thinking like a magician. You have to have that mind-set.”

“You put yourself in that mind-set. And I’d not seen any coverage from back then; I grew up without a TV.”

What were the challenges or your mind-set going into that?

On the first day of class, May 8, Lillienfeld delivered a morning lecture on the mind-set of homicide investigators followed by an afternoon lecture on case management and interacting with witnesses.

And so I knew that’s the mind-set that we needed to put her in.