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not used, personal photo, not in scope Avron (talk) 19:31, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Julo (talk) 20:27, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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not used, personal photo, not in scope Avron (talk) 19:33, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Julo (talk) 20:28, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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not used, personal photo, not in scope Avron (talk) 19:34, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Julo (talk) 20:28, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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pdf with text - out of scope Cholo Aleman (talk) 04:53, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:57, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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cover page of album "alo" Jayanta Nath (talk) 09:05, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:56, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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album Moharaj cover page Jayanta Nath (talk) 09:07, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:56, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Descrption "nothing" + usage "nothing" = out of scope!   ■ MMXX  talk  23:16, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment Not a bad image to illustrate adolescense or sulking... -- Deadstar (msg) 09:13, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Julo (talk) 13:36, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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As Google Chrome is not a free software, the GUI is copyrighted. Image should be either deleted or cropped. Jean-Fred (talk) 00:38, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep. :Screenshots of Google Chrome is considered fair use, there are thousands of screenshots containing the GUI of Google Chrome. Please don't delete the image. For example, the Wikipedia article of Google Chrome _also_ contains a screenshto of it. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome --AndreasRøsdal (talk) 01:58, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
 Delete The Image you refer to also has a fair use (non-free) explanation on it. Fair use images are not allowed on Commons. -- Deadstar (msg) 10:14, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
 Keep. The image only contains very basic UI elements from Chrome. These are ineligible for copyright. --PaterMcFly (talk) 10:24, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You may want to read Commons:Screenshots and Commons:Deletion requests/Windows screenshots. Jean-Fred (talk) 21:20, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I did. My statement was more or less based on that decision about windows screenshots (most of them were kept) and on Commons:De minimis. --PaterMcFly (talk) 08:13, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, I realise my comment above could have been less harsh, sorry about that.
COM:SS clearly states that « Screenshots of [proprietary web browsers] are never permissible on Commons if they show the browser's user interface. » The fact is that a shot from a Windows software can hardly be made using a free OS ; but this Freeciv screenshot can easily be replaced by one using a free browser.
(Note: to be clear, I am not a Free software/OS fundamentalist, I just do my best to enforce Commons guidelines. I can totally be wrong and fail to see special cases such as applicable De minimis)
Jean-Fred (talk) 13:58, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, it doesn't really matter in this case, since the web browser part can easily be removed from this image without loosing any relevant information. I'll do that. --PaterMcFly (talk) 19:52, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have cropped the image. This discussion can therefore be closed, can it? --PaterMcFly (talk) 19:59, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, thanks for doing so. Jean-Fred (talk) 23:53, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kept., as the problematic parts have been removed. Jean-Fred (talk) 23:53, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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wrong license (Bols trademark is not public domain), probably wrong source ("own"?) --Julo (talk) 14:11, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete Looks like the image was taken from a website. Not self made. -- Deadstar (msg) 15:46, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Julo (talk) 07:18, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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unused personal file, not description, only edit of this user - out of scope Cholo Aleman (talk) 04:44, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


per nom Deleted. Mbdortmund (talk) 05:26, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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unused, only edit of this user, undescribed, inidentified location, unnotable building and bad quality = out of scope Cholo Aleman (talk) 05:08, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete per above -- Deadstar (msg) 10:22, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
 Delete we are also unable to determine the FOP and as such could be a copyrighted image Andyzweb (talk) 15:39, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

per nom Deleted. Mbdortmund (talk) 05:27, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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unused personal group foto - misunderstanding of the commons, only file of this user - out of scope Cholo Aleman (talk) 05:12, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete Unused personal photo. -- Deadstar (msg) 10:23, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

out of scope Deleted. Mbdortmund (talk) 05:28, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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What is it? Out of scope? Pibwl (talk) 21:52, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete : No educational interest--Civa (talk) 23:08, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

out of scope Deleted. Mbdortmund (talk) 05:32, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Image appears to be made by a professional photographer. Yourbasis (Diskussion · Benutzerbeiträge) claims himself as the author, however the image is provided only with low resoultion, camera data are missing, too. File:Dianavickers.jpg is a scaled-down version of that file. --myself488 (talk) 23:06, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have now added the missing camera data. I do not see why Dianavickers2.jpg needs to be deleted. Dianavickers.jpg is however a scaled down duplicate and does require deletion. - Yourbasis(talk) 16:49, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
We have the problem that new users often upload files without permission of the copyright holder. This deletion request is basically to clarify if you are the original author of the image. Easiest way would be you sending an email to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org. You should describe at what occasion you did that photo and that you want to release it under the license you selected. Regards --myself488 (talk) 22:22, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Appears to be a professionally taken picture, but is at a low resolution. Dianavickers.jpg appears to be the resolution it was found at, and this one seems to have been scaled up (which would explain the poor quality). Here is another photo from the same shoot. I think it pretty clear that this is a cut and paste job. Quantpole (talk) 11:32, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Per all the evidences, the EXIF is poor fantasy. Uploader is a sockpuppet of User:Urgedbeing. --Martin H. (talk) 02:28, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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I doubt this image is PD-self. No proof of permission given to uploader from the original copyright holder. --Laod (talk) 03:43, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if PD-self was the right license to use (it's been a year and a half since I uploaded it), but Ms. Scott said that it's in the public domain. Nightscream (talk) 10:54, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment PD-Self is incorrect as you did not take the photograph. The only way to resolve this is to contact her (office) and find out what the license is on this headshot. As it's promotional material, it's likely not free. And it could be that she has no rights to it either, as she did not take the photograph. -- Deadstar (msg) 08:55, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. No written permission by author available, restore if you gain such a permission. Polarlys (talk) 14:58, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Originally uploaded by user with extensive history of copyvios: [1]. No evidence this is not a news image. --Ytoyoda (talk) 04:00, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Polarlys (talk) 14:43, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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cover of a strange book, unclear copyrights, out of scope Cholo Aleman (talk) 04:38, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete Obvious case. (Except for the picture of god on the left side, which is PD-old, but we have more and better images of that) --PaterMcFly (talk) 11:32, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Polarlys (talk) 14:41, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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poor black-and-white copy of Cornelisdegraeff.jpg DutchRepublic12 (talk) 09:21, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Polarlys (talk) 14:44, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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poor quality version of File:Grafzerk van Diederik Jansz Graeff.jpg -DutchRepublic12 (talk) 09:32, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Polarlys (talk) 14:44, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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copyvio Tekstman (talk) 11:28, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Polarlys (talk) 14:46, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Out of projects scope, the relevant article was deleted in ruwiki. --Blacklake (talk) 12:44, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Polarlys (talk) 14:46, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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copyrighted image - http://data10.gallery.ru/albums/gallery/183231-de91c-27937586-m549x500.jpg --Hayk (talk) 16:25, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have created this image, which was taken from my own collection. --Interfase (talk) 16:42, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment. Image appears to be a scan from an original (see black line at the bottom). Interfase, just because you have a copy of the image in your collection doesn't mean that you are allowed to scan it and upload it to the Commons. Only the copyright owner can permit this to be done. If you took the original photograph yourself, please e-mail a high-resolution version of the photograph to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org and/or to Hayk to prove that you have the original image in your collection, or better still, upload the high-resolution version to the Commons. — Cheers, JackLee talk 18:18, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Interfase was born in 1989 and he was about 1 year when this photo was taken. --Hayk (talk) 21:06, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I am not author of photo. The image, created from photo belongs to me. --Interfase (talk) 21:15, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
 DeleteSo in effect you "own" the black line at the bottom. The rest of the image is copyrighted. -- Deadstar (msg) 15:48, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Polarlys (talk) 14:56, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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copyrighted image, uploader was born in 1989 (see ru:User:Interfase) --Hayk (talk) 16:31, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I created this image, which was taken from my own collection. --Interfase (talk) 16:38, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment. The photograph looks like a scan from an original. Interfase, just because you have a copy of the image in your collection doesn't mean that you are allowed to scan it and upload it to the Commons. Only the copyright owner can permit this to be done. If you took the original photograph yourself, please e-mail a high-resolution version of the photograph to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org and/or to Hayk to prove that you have the original image in your collection, or better still, upload the high-resolution version to the Commons. — Cheers, JackLee talk 18:18, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Interfase was born in 1989 and he was about 1 year when this photo was taken. --Hayk (talk) 21:05, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Polarlys (talk) 14:56, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Painting in the style of a Persian miniature, but apparently a modern copyrighted work; likely copyright violation. Was uploaded with reference to a source website which claims it is licensing its contents for free use ([2], see note at bottom), but it is highly doubtful the website is actually the copyright owner. This painting is hosted in a number of websites, among them three Flickr galleries alone ([3]; see also Tineye.com search). According to this version, it's apparently the work of a popular Iranian painter named en:Mahmoud Farshchian and was created in 1967. According to his WP article, the painter is still alive. Some of the images mirrored in the same flickr collections, e.g. this one, are also on the painter's own official website, where they are marked as "all rights reserved" [4]. Fut.Perf. 16:44, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Polarlys (talk) 14:55, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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also:

Images with a claimed free license sourced to the website "cais-soas.com". This site was identified as being used for systematic copyvio laundering and was subsequently put on the meta:Spam blacklist back in 2007 (see here and here for background). All images sourced to this site should be assumed to be copyvios, and all licenses and copyright claims made by that site, including apparent OTRS clearances obtained from them, should be given no credence. (Besides, the license for File:Kurdish Dance 2.jpg isn't even valid on the face of it, as it's non-commercial-only.) Fut.Perf. 18:33, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. Polarlys (talk) 14:54, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Copyrighted design on the diapers. De minimis would not apply as the subject of the photograph is the "GoodNites for Girls" product line, and the design is inherent to it. Furthermore, the artwork takes up too much of the photo to be considered a trivial violation, thus if the prior were not true, de minimis would still have no bearing. Blurpeace 20:51, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. per Blurpeace’s reasonable argumentation Polarlys (talk) 14:53, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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no source, no description - useless, out of scope Cholo Aleman (talk) 21:46, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete out of scope. -- Deadstar (msg) 09:16, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Polarlys (talk) 14:48, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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tag "no source" since six month Cholo Aleman (talk) 21:50, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Polarlys (talk) 14:49, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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copyright violaton - derivative work Cholo Aleman (talk) 22:02, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete per nom. -- Deadstar (msg) 09:15, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Polarlys (talk) 14:49, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Out of scope image, unused. --ZooFari 22:18, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Polarlys (talk) 14:50, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Img is unused. I replaced this legend image by a proper legend (using template:legend) in the article nl:Partij voor de Vrijheid. Mtcv (talk) 22:21, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Polarlys (talk) 14:51, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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out of scope, not used anywhere Pibwl (talk) 23:13, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Strange name for such an image... --PaterMcFly (talk) 20:02, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Polarlys (talk) 14:51, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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out of scope Pibwl (talk) 23:10, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete like many others of Category:Jared C. Monti --Avron (talk) 09:21, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Polarlys (talk) 14:51, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails PD-art, copyright protected for five more years --Blacklake (talk) 14:08, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Polarlys (talk) 20:28, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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I am afraid this picture is only a derivative work of a prior photograph ([5] [6]). I couldn't find who the photographer is, and the source website doesn't reference it. MFO may hold copyright over the derivative, but the copyright status of the original is unclear. Maybe it is an official Princeton photograph, maybe it is a US photograph without copyright registration or renewal... But so far, no evidence whatsoever. I am reluctant to nominate the picture because it is apparently the only portrait we have of Gödel. Eusebius (talk) 14:20, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. I just cleaned up the photo by removing the artistic contribution, which incidentally made the resemblance to the original photo manifestly obvious. The fact that I can mechanically extract a copy of the original photo from the image suggests that it is very much a derivative work. Dcoetzee (talk) 03:33, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment If the conclusion is that we should keep the picture, Dcoetzee's version should be kept as a separate version (the "artistic contribution" is the only part of the DW for which there is a permission, the problem lies with the original). --Eusebius (talk) 06:28, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment When I uploaded the photo, I was enthusiastic about the release of the Oberwolfach Photo Collection under cc-by-sa and I chose randomly some of their photos and uploaded them. Maybe we shiuld just ask them if they remember how this photo was taken and if they can guarantee or not that they are the copyright owners? −PetaRZ (talk) 11:55, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. @PetaRZ: This is a good idea. Contact me, if we can restore the photo.Polarlys (talk) 20:29, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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no source Mangostar (talk) 14:43, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment Talkpage for the image has the following if anyone wants to go and dig:
This picture was previously tagged PD-Old. I have now relicensed it to PD-USGov, since I have a faint idea I got it from a government website. However, I am not entirely sure and if this licence is not OK, feel free to delete it. Riggwelter 20:22, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
-- Deadstar (msg) 08:59, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. no source Polarlys (talk) 20:27, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Wrong licence (certainly not {{PD-ineligible}} as stated): photograph stated to be obtained from TODAYonline, the website of the Singaporean newspaper Today. Insufficient indication that the uploader was authorized to license the image to the Commons. — Cheers, JackLee talk 14:45, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted. Polarlys (talk) 20:26, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Copyrighted advertising image. The source, a Guardian article, does indeed say the image is in public domain, but this is incorrect (and this wouldn't be the only time The Guardian has falsely claimed public domain on a copyright image). This may qualify as fair use on English Wikipedia, but should not be on Commons. --Ytoyoda (talk) 16:01, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Delete. The Guardian article itself states that the photograph was from an "advert for a courier company, which is an official sponsor of the Spanish Basketball Federation", and that the advertisement "occupied a full page in the sports daily Marca, the country's best-selling newspaper" before the 2008 Summer Olympics. Highly unlikely that an image created so recently for a commercial purpose is in the public domain. — Cheers, JackLee talk 18:14, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I was a little bit surprised at the declaration of PD, but took the Guardian at their word. I cannot possibly object to its deletion if it is not PD. Does anyone think it necessary to ask for clarification from the Guardian prior to deletion? Ohconfucius (talk) 02:10, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. Polarlys (talk) 20:26, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Screenshot of copyrighted software (http://www.big.be) -- Deadstar (msg) 10:04, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

user also uploaded File:Brandweerinformatiecentrum voor gevaarlijke stoffen.PNG, the logo from the website. I tagged with PD-textlogo (as it's not own work & I think it qualifies). It appears it was marked as a copyvio before, and perhaps should be considered here too. -- Deadstar (msg) 10:08, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. No permission by publisher. Polarlys (talk) 14:46, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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This is getting ridiculous. There is a source, but now for the third time this photo has been tagged with "no source". So it is not me that wants to delete this photo, but I am bringing the DR because other people want to delete this without proper discussion. Pieter Kuiper (talk) 17:34, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep Please stop tagging images like these. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 17:37, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
 Keep. {{PD-AR-Photo}} seems to be an appropriate licence. — Cheers, JackLee talk 18:24, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
A still is a photo; but this is more likely a publicity photo made on the film set. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 20:54, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The uploader himself describes it as a "from the movie". Although he is unable to seperate between movies and photos in licensing there is absolutely NO, not even the smallest evidence that this is not a movie still. And a part of a movie is a part of a movie and not a photo. --Martin H. (talk) 21:10, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment: is the movie itself still subject to copyright in Argentina? — Cheers, JackLee talk 15:27, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Great, keep it with this information. So we now have authors, the "Anónimo" was obviously wrong from the beginning, and we have an external source confirming were it is from and who the authors are, http://www.acceder.gov.ar/en/1674352. If the license is ok and noone finds any "producer" the lack of a comprehensible, complete and correct source is resolved imo. --Martin H. (talk) 01:33, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Source clearly says: "Author: s.n." for this photo. And this is not a cinematographic work - just a photo. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 08:51, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Its a photo print and so it is stored as a photo. But by no evidence it is a photographic work. --Martin H. (talk) 13:46, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It does not move, it does not talk, it is just a photo. Also, have you noticed that this image has a portrait format? /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 13:56, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What does "s.n." mean? http://www.acceder.gov.ar/en/2096268 http://www.acceder.gov.ar/en/2096120 --Laod (talk) 14:59, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Looks like it stands for "sin nombre", ie "without a name". If you click on "s.n." to see the list of other works by s.n. you'll see their records are far from complete as many records are marked as sin nombre. -Nard the Bard 15:21, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kept. The problem was resolved, the image (part of a movie or a separate photo, in doubt a part of the movie) fulfills pd-ar-movie and is ok on Commons. Thanks Laod for the good hint. --Martin H. (talk) 15:33, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Misleading and incorrect template. The NIST image gallery page explicitly says "Some of the photographs available through this gallery are owned by the photographer who took the pictures, not by NIST". Images truly authored by the NIST are indeed PD as federal works and are thus covered by {{PD-USGov}}. This NIST specific license, however, falsely implies that all material sourced to nist.gov is PD. --Эlcobbola talk 17:01, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Question: couldn't this be solved by rewording the template rather than deleting it? Fut.Perf. 17:35, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • I thought about that, but it seemed to me that even something as explicit and correct as "This image is in the public domain because it was authored by the National Institute of Standards and Technology" could be misinterpreted. It's a common phenomenon for uploaders to assume that mere appearance on a given federal site is tantamount to authorship by the given agency. I'm concerned that, in the future, the existence of this template could reinforce the incorrect "on nist.gov = work by NIST" notion. The lack of agency specificity in the PD-USGov template encourages, I think, consideration and determination of the actual author. Эlcobbola talk 17:45, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • Taking your argument to a logical conclusion, this would imply that a lot of images with U.S. Government templates should be removed, because of issues with authorship, which is difficult to trace anyhow with images posted on U.S. federal sites. I disagree with your deletion request: why should the NIST template be removed ? What makes NIST different from other U.S.federal agencies ? Rewording seems more appropriate. Coenen (talk) 11:29, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reword and  Keep. Highly useful template and I don't see there any problem irresolvable by rewording. There are 94 specific PD-USGov templates, and I don't understand why this one is different. Trycatch (talk) 12:50, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep If there ever was a problem, it is solved now. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 08:48, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • What about images that are not authored by NIST but released by NIST into public domain under a Freedom of Information Act request, as is the case with the 9/11 images here? Cinosaur (talk) 08:17, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep There is nothing wrong with the template. If images are erroneously using it, open separate DRs for them. Adding a note about that specific image gallery (noting that many are non-NIST images) would be a good idea. Carl Lindberg (talk) 17:18, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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I doubt lordprice.co.uk is the copyright owner of this American movie magazine. That looks like a picture collector. --Laod (talk) 06:28, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Keep PD-us-not renewed. Lordprice *is* a good source of public domain photos, but they claim copyright on their scans, that's what the license is for. Since Commons believes in Corel v Bridgeman however we are free to ignore Lordprice's claims :) -Nard the Bard 20:53, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Re the constant policy of Wikimedia Commons concerning 2D reproduction of works more than 70 years old. The reproduction of 2D work more than 70 years old by any mean (photography, scan, etc.), in a as-it state (i.e. with no personnal added-value) is considered PUBLIC DOMAIN. So any claim of any kind about such work is considered invalid by Wikimedia Commons.
Gilles (talk) 03:02, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Kept, PD-US-no notice. Kameraad Pjotr 18:00, 31 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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 Delete Fundamentally unencyclopedic political advertising. --141.155.36.65 07:20, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep Commons is not an encylopaedia. The gallery is just a list of images of that guy. He has an article on english WP, so he is considered notable. That the article on en is an advertisement campaign is not a problem of commons. You can create a deletion request there. --PaterMcFly (talk) 11:35, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
For what it's worth, it was nominated for deletion: w:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gregory R. Ball. –Juliancolton | Talk 20:33, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
 Delete The pictures themselves are not notable, and some aren't even used in the article. 70.23.79.203 14:25, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Err... There are no notability criteria for images. And being unused alone isn't a valid deletion reason either. --PaterMcFly (talk) 15:45, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Funny, that's not the impression I'm under. [[7]]: "advertising or self-promotion". You might even argue "private collection of images". 70.23.79.203 15:58, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think that point of the policy holds for notable persons. --PaterMcFly (talk) 08:16, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
 Keep. Provided that the individual images in the gallery are properly licensed, there is nothing wrong with having a gallery to group the images together. — Cheers, JackLee talk 18:06, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
 Keep. Looks like a personal anti-Ball campaign. --Foroa (talk) 17:23, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
 Delete Source is really bad. --MGA73 (talk) 19:40, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
 Delete The photo makes the politicians look very bad...as if this was a joke. And its not. --Leoboudv (talk) 19:07, 2 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment I first thought this DR was about one single image (File:Gregball7.jpg) and I voted delete because the source was bad. I just realized, that this DR is about:
  1. File:Gregball2.jpg
  2. File:Gregball3.jpg
  3. File:Gregball6.jpg
  4. File:Gregball1.jpg
  5. File:Gregball7.jpg  Delete Source is bad.
  6. File:Gregball8.jpg
  7. File:Gregball9.jpg
  8. File:Gregball10.jpg
  9. File:Gregball20.jpg
  10. File:Gregball-volunteers.jpg
  11. File:Gregball4.jpg
  12. Gregory R. Ball
  13. Category:Greg Ball
  14. File:Gregball5.jpg
  15. File:Gregball12.jpg
  16. File:Gregball11.jpg
  17. File:Gregball13.jpg
  18. File:George oros.jpg

 Keep Images with good source and license. As far as I can tell this person is notable and therefore we can keep images of him. But we should only keep images with a good source and license. We can also keep a gallery and a category. So far I only checked one image but others also needs to be checked before they are kept. --MGA73 (talk) 21:48, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Kept, files are within project scope, deleted the one with the "bad" source. Kameraad Pjotr 18:17, 31 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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'I own this image' I this enough for a free-license? I doubt no. Avron (talk) 09:16, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, that is not enough. The image could be PD-USGov, PD-norenewal or even PD-old, but without further information on the source, we don't know. --PaterMcFly (talk) 11:39, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted, without source/author impossible to verify PD-status. Kameraad Pjotr 18:19, 31 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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COM:DW of architectural work. (Model). Architect (sv:Hjalmar Cederström) died in 1953. Not 70pma. sугсго 13:48, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have to say that you are right, I also checked the Swedish copyright law and it agrees with you. I Never considered the copyright for the model, just the picture itself. It is a shame though, I think it was an important illustration for the hospital article. But of course commons should not contain copyrighted works. Maby I'll put it back in 23 years :) Marcusroos (talk) 17:46, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Too bad, Swedish law has full FOP for buildings.  Keep Nothing architecturally stunning or uniquely copyrightable about what's shown in this image. -Nard the Bard 20:58, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There is no building on this photo, but a model of a later build building. A work of architecture does not have to be stunnig to be copytightable in Sweden. sугсго 21:12, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Make a crop of the man with his arm streched out. The remaining small portion of the model should count as de minimis imho. -- Herby (Vienna) (talk) 18:51, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted, does not qualify as FOP (not permanently installed in a public place). Kameraad Pjotr 18:21, 31 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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No proof Flickr uploader owns the rights to this 1933 photo or why it should be PD (if published in the United States it would qualify for PD-US-no notice). Note uploader attempted to "fix" the image description first as an IP, was reverted, then did so as the logged in user, forging my flickr review in the process. -Nard the Bard 20:31, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep per Billinghurst on File talk:Olivia De Haviland 1933.jpg; please remove the speedy tag. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 20:52, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding "no notice found in Rutgers or Stanford's listings" - a bit more detail would really be helpful. The flickr source gives no information on when/where this was actually published, or under what title or author's name, so how does one search for the renewal notice? Also note that the Rutgers and Stanford databases say that they only contain listings for books. --dave pape (talk) 19:49, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, more detail would be nice. Looking at similar images historically, the time period would be about right. My statement is balance of probability.
  •  DeleteThe uploader at Flickr complained about this copy: Update, update! Noticed some traffice from Wikipedia and saw this. I never gave permission for someone to upload this scan for use in the commons. I don't know if he is in the position to complain, but uploader Flavius92 has a history of violations, so it is best to delete this suspect file. Jan Arkesteijn (talk) 21:41, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Umm, the basic scenario is still "is the work under copyright?" If yes, and no permissions have been sought, then both the uploader at flickr and then to commons are in breach. If no, then neither is in breach of copyright. A person who scans a photograph from a work and adds no artistic merit has no copyright protection for their effort, and they can certainly complain about lack of courtesy about someone just copying it, just not legitimately about copyright. That someone does or does not have a history has to be set aside, as even they can get it right now and again. — billinghurst sDrewth 12:30, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It would be nice to copy your statements over here. [done above by transclusion] — Preceding unsigned comment added by billinghurst (talk • contribs) Removed, it cluttered up the page -Nard the Bard 00:56, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You say it was published. How can you tell? Jan Arkesteijn (talk) 13:19, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It is claimed that it is a theatre pamphlet, and that being the case if it is sold or given to the public would be considered published. The signature on the cover, and the descriptive text indicates that is the nature of the publication. No definitive proof. There is no provenence for the photograph, and in lieu of that one can only research [8] and draw conclusions. I invite the introduction of any primary evidence. — billinghurst sDrewth 02:23, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The source does not say it is a theatre pamphlet. The copyright status is unclear, but we do know the uploader at Flickr objects to the use of this file over here. Unless we find evidence that this image is PD, we should delete it. Jan Arkesteijn (talk) 11:34, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The opinion of the Flickr user is irrelevant. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 13:22, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. I'm the user AliceJapan from Flickr. I can't help but to add my two cents to this discussion. When I had originally noticed my scan on wikimedia, I had noticed that the user who uploaded the file said they had procured the file through Flickr's Commons which was false. Second, the user did not even notify me that they were going to use said file for use in the Wikimedia commons. True, that my opinion is irrelevant to the discussion of PD or not, I would just like to believe that the commons here has some sort of standards when it comes to acquiring photos for use in expanding Wikipedia entries for the good of the online community. As in, notifying the person who has gone through the trouble of acquiring a piece of Hollywood memorabilia and bringing it into the public domain. I mean, that's my mission on Flickr. Presenting portraits and stills of films from Hollywood's golden age.
The user could have just asked me for a HQ version for use in the commons and I would have gladly re-scanned the photo but he didn't do that. He searched for the file's name using Google and grabbed it from there circumventing Flickr's privacy setting of not letting others right click and save a file if not allowed to. Mostly a deterrent, I know, but it does put me in communication with those who wish to use my scans.
Now, as what you people decide to do is up to whoever is in charge. I would prefer that the file be deleted and re-uploaded by a trusted user who goes through the proper channels instead of a user who is known of smash and grabbing files from the Internet. I did appreciate that the user who uploaded the file had changed the information to credit my account on Flickr and directing traffic towards it. In conclusion, I hope whatever the community here decides to do about the file does what is best for the commons and not about what is PD and what is not. Good day.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.55.156.170 (talk • contribs)
It’s all about PD or not PD. --Polarlys (talk) 11:04, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
We would appreciate it if you could donate a HQ version. Thanks in advance. The question is though, is this image in the public domain, otherwise we can not publish it here. But yes, it you could take the trouble, a high-res version is gladly appreciated. Jan Arkesteijn (talk) 17:45, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Since the Flickr user did not respond we must assume that he is not the copyright owner. So we have a picture that is not in the PD per se, uploaded by someone who has a record of violations. Summing things up, it is not clear that this image is in the public domain. Only when proven it could remain on commons, so delete it. Jan Arkesteijn (talk) 16:40, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kept, 1933 signed photograph (and thus published) without a notice: {{PD-US-no notice}}. Kameraad Pjotr 18:31, 31 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Photos by Wikipedia/Picasa Web Albums user Poetas

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  1. File:Arminius Hotel corner detail - Portland Oregon.jpg
  2. File:Arminius Hotel detail - Portland Oregon.jpg
  3. File:Charles F Berg Buidling facade detail 1 - Portland Oregon.jpg
  4. File:Charles F Berg Buidling facade detail 2 - Portland Oregon.jpg
  5. File:Charles F Berg Buidling facade detail 3 - Portland Oregon.jpg (This image is also the subject of a separate, simultaneous deletion discussion.)
  6. File:Charles F Berg Buidling facade overview 2 - Portland Oregon.jpg ("Facade overview 1" is by a different photographer and did not come by way of Picasa.)
  7. File:Charles F Berg Buidling sign detail - Portland Oregon.jpg
  8. File:Commodore Hotel - Portland Oregon.jpg
  9. File:Cotillion Hall - Portland Oregon.jpg

Images were transferred to English Wikipedia and subsequently to Commons from Picasa Web Albums. License on Picasa is CC-BY-NC-SA 3.0, incompatible with Commons policy. Normally this would be a matter for speedy deletion rather than a deletion discussion, except that the photographer's username on Picasa is the same as the username of the Wikipedia editor who initially uploaded them there (en:User:Poetas). Thus, the Commons community could (a) presume the two Poetases to be the same individual and the proper copyright holder, or (b) decide that the precautionary principle forces us to conclude that we have too little evidence to believe that the two Poetases are one-and-the-same and that the Wikipedia Poetas did not have the legal capacity to license these images more freely than they were on Picasa. If (a), then the license tags used on Wikipedia (CC-BY-SA 3.0) and transferred to the Commons are valid and the images should be kept. If (b), then the images should be deleted because the CC-BY-NC-SA 3.0 license controls. (This issue has also been discussed in a limited way at Commons talk:Picasa Web Albums files#Incompatible licenses, but the same user.) —Werewombat (talk) 18:25, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Delete None of the photos are so difficult to replace nor of such exceptional quality that the community should want to hang on to them in the face of any licensing ambiguity at all. I come down on the side of precaution. —Werewombat (talk) 18:37, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • If you look at the image history of one or two of these you'll see I tagged some of them for deletion about 2 years ago and then changed my mind and reverted. I'm still on the fence, really. -Nard the Bard 20:36, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep Normally we asume that user is the same if name is the same and there is no reason to think otherwise. In my opinion the images are not "high risk" so I see no reason not to trust uploader. Had it been a professional photographer or a famous person or compagny we should request a proof. --MGA73 (talk) 11:57, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Also some of the images like File:Charles F Berg Buidling sign detail - Portland Oregon.jpg and File:Charles F Berg Buidling facade detail 2 - Portland Oregon.jpg were not found in the gallery. They could be deleted but it could also be an other proof that uploader really is Picasa user. --MGA73 (talk) 18:01, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted by Zirland. –Tryphon 23:15, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]