Talk:Big Eight Conference

Big vs Other

Wikipedia is currently contradicting itself on how it refers to the Big Ten and Big Eight in articles concerning college football history. In the Big Ten article, it states (with cited source) that the conference was called tbe Big Ten as early as 1897. So, the Western Conference moniker should probably be changed in the section on Iowa on this page. This is also a problem on the pages for years of college football, as both the Big Eight and Big Ten are called by the "big" names sometimes and the older names, Missouri Valley and Western, seemingly based on the preference of the author. We should pick a standardized format for each. RamblinRay (talk) 14:06, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I guess the problem is that even the schools can't make up their mind. Supposedly, the official name of the Big 8 was "MVIAA" until 1964, but for example the University of Kansas official record books stop calling it that in 1928 and use the names below:

1890-1906 (None)

1907-1927 (MVIAA)

1928-1946 (Big 6)

1947-1958 (Big 7)

1959-1995 (Big 8)

I suppose we should go with what the related schools officially use Ryan2845 (talk) 14:36, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

The University of Kansas is a reliable source. Perhaps we should go with the years and names you have mapped out, Ryan. Obviously, the Big Eight was known as such long before the "official" name change. It seems much more accurate to refer to it with the "big" name beginning in 1928, rather than 1964. I move we make such a change on this page and try to adopt this for other pages as well. RamblinRay (talk) 20:35, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Logos

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Team and corporate logos. For identification.

Their use in this article is for identification and therefore in compliance with both Wikipedia:Fair use policy and the fair use provisions od US copyright law. Additional information on this discussion can be found on the Big East Conference discussion page. BCV 02:11, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

That is a simplification, and one of many conditions. The teams are adequately identified by text, so rule #1 applies (no free alternative is available). The means no alternative that would adequately display the same information (which in this context is identifying the team), not no free alternative to the logo. Further reverts will result in page protection, or user blocks. ed g2s • talk 14:03, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

It is your opinion that the teams are adequatley identified by text. Others have a different opinion. It would be a policy violation for your to protect the page or block users. This needs to be discussed first. Johntex\^talk 18:06, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Are you seriously claiming that we need to use a logo so that readers know which team we are talking about!? ed g2s • talk 18:22, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't appreciate being accused of vandalism which is an implied threat from your statement of 'page protection or user block'. Your opinion is not the policy and I would appreciate the courtesy of good faith from a admin and a full discussion before one removes the gallery again. BCV 02:20, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm sure you are acting in good faith, but you are wrong. Until our policy changes, or you can prove this usage is permitted, we will err on the side of caution. Please do not revert again, as you should now be well aware this is a potential copyright issue. ed g2s • talk 02:36, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

As for consistency, this is most definitely not a standard on sports league pages outisde college associations. This category of pages is the exception, not the standard. ed g2s • talk 02:42, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

You are incorrect Ed, you haven't proved there is any policy to support your position. Please see ongoing discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Logos#Clarification_on_use_of_sports_team_logos. Until the policy is clarified one way or the other, your opinion carries no more weight than anyone elses, and you have no right to tout policy as the basis for your content change. Johntex\^talk 16:10, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

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History section needs work

This is the first sentence of the history section: "In 1908 Drake University and Iowa State College (now Iowa State University) joined, increased conference membership to seven."

Question: joined what? The history section cannot start in the middle of the story. How did the first 5 schools get together? When? I realize that the answer to this is in the previous section, but the page ought to be reorganized so that "History" doesn't start in the middle of the story, or at least coherently refers back to the first section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.28.250.194 (talk) 01:40, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

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Colorado in timeline section

2016 Colorado Media Guide shows a join date of 1948 in both text and yearly standings tables. "A decade later, CU athletics would change forever, as the Buffaloes were accepted into the Missouri Valley Intercollegiate Athletic Association (also known as the Big Six) on Dec. 1, 1947. Colorado started competition in this league in the 1948-49 school year, thus changing the group's name to the Big Seven."

The timeline section shows 1947~1996 and appears in need of a change to 1948~1996. UW Dawgs (talk) 19:39, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Seems straight forward then I can make the change.--Dcheagle • talk • contribs 20:13, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

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