Talk:Hanoi

Montage

My edited version:

Current version:

I disagree with what Jmoritz127 said on the main article as I think the other version is better compared to the current version. The images have much better lighting and weather, clarity, and the pictures are more up to date, as there were some photos that dated back to 2006/07. I switched out a few images including the Tran Quoc pagoda, to an image that shows the St. Joseph Cathedral in a much clearer frame, as the trees on the current image obscures the view of the cathedral. The current one pillar pagoda picture should be switched as well as the bad lighting makes it very hard to see the clarity of the subject in addition to it being from 14 years ago. Similarly, the image of the turtle tower in my version is better than the current one as it removes the random tree branches out of the frame and makes the iconic landmark more clearly focused on. The opera house image's lighting and artistic effects in the other version is also lot better than the current one and I think it's more suitable for its inclusion in the montage. 2601:248:5000:630:755F:4E6C:41DE:7049 (talk) 01:03, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

The current version has the following pictures that are better than your version:

• The Opera House looks more realistic than your version, which is too polished and bright. The current version with two sides provides more understanding of the space (depth) rather than just the frontal facade (surface)
• Similarly, the Ho Chi Minh mausoleum with two sides provides more understanding of the space rather than just the frontal facade. If you could edit this one with light adjustment, it would be great.
• The Hoan Kiem lake comes with the loc vung branches, which I think is actually a bonus. I'm Vietnamese and the iconic photos of the lake always accompany loc vung trees or willow trees, which gives additional information of the lake shore. The current picture also provides two sides of the Turtle Tower, plust a reflexion.

I'm indifferent about other pictures (slightly prefer the current Temple of Literature pic with the red gate among lots of greeneries (looks very peaceful) and slightly perfer your picture of the cathedral)Mr Vinx (talk) 11:37, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Also I think it is not necessary to include a skyline, Hanoi doesn't really have a skyline. Because of height restriction in the city center, most skyline pictures you'd find would be for any random western suburb with high rises. The purplish panorama here doesn't provide any useful information. Wikipedia should be about informative and realistic understanding, rather than showing pretty pictures.Mr Vinx (talk) 11:44, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

WIP #1:

File:West Hanoi.jpg

Edit #1. Regarding the Opera House, I really don't think a slight viewing angle makes that much of a difference in the context of understanding the building better, as the front facade is supposedly the side of the building where most people enter and gain their familiarity from, an should be emphasized more. If you look at any article of the White House, or the Capital, or even the Louvre, the leading pictures show their front facades, not on a angle or anything. But this is just my opinion, other people can come argue on this otherwise. I changed a few pictures, including the mausoleum to one that shows it up closer (as the other one was zoomed out), and the skyline. I left the temple of literature there as the other one is just too old. Any thoughts? 2601:248:5000:630:E1CC:49E9:7A48:4B06 (talk) 20:17, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

It looks quite good but maybe put the syline at the bottom, it's too big, or you can take a zoom-in version of itMr Vinx (talk) 21:54, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

I uploaded a zoomed-in version. Hope it'll stay Mr Vinx (talk) 22:09, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Okay, but neither picture of the One Pillar Pagoda is ideal. I replaced it with the picture of pilgrimage near Perfume Pagoda for 3 reasons: the Perfume Pagoda is just as iconic as the One Pillar Pagoda (see article); the pilgrimage here is quite unique; it was part of former Ha Tay Province and represents rural Hanoi — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmouritz127 (talk • contribs) 22:44, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Ok. Next time don't change the pictures before reaching a consensus and remember to sign your comments. --2601:248:5000:630:7903:88F:EC5E:B35B (talk) 23:12, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

I now think that the One-Pillar Pagoda might be more appropriate in the montage as it's more iconic than the HCM Mausoleum, which is purely political. I suggest using the pagoda instead. Jmouritz127 (talk) 21:52, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

The original version has better aesthetics than the one OP suggested and the current one. The angle shots are nicer looking from afar and not so up close. Each row had a different building or landscape instead of the now revised one which placed 2 pagodas in the same row. The now revised one is quite unaesthetically pleasing like the edited one OP suggested. I say revert it back to the original. And just because it's an older picture doesn't mean it's worse. Norewritingofhistory (talk) 19:06, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

@Norewritingofhistory: Do you think we can add picture about Nhật Tân Bridge (the picture on the left).

It is relatively new (from 2014), but many people called it the "new symbol of Hanoi", including newspapers like VnExpress, Tuổi Trẻ, the website of Hanoi Tourism Department, and the website of the Communist Party of Vietnam. And I also think it is important to have picture about Imperial Citadel of Thăng Long, a UNESCO World Heritage Site.

Ltn12345 (talk) 23:53, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

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Yeah, those would look good. Those structures have significant meaning and has aesthetics. I would replace either the pilgramage journey to perfume pagoda, or either the opera house or the church, and either the one pillar pagoda or the temple of literature. The aerial view and hoan kiem can stay. You can edit it if you want, I only found the original and just copy and pasted. Or if I'm not lazy, I'll do it in a week or so.Norewritingofhistory (talk) 09:46, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

The current version (reverted from a recent discretionary edit) with these 6 photos: Turtle Tower, Pilgrim boats toward Perfume Pagoda, Hanoi Opera House, Đoan Môn gate of Imperial Citadel of Thăng Long, Khuê Văn pavilion at Temple of Literature and skyline of Hanoi from Nhật Tân Bridge. look best to me. 60.69.65.118 (talk) 05:06, 25 October 2022 (UTC)