Talk:Justice of the peace

Justices of the Peace in Minnesota

It appears that someone had previously drafted an entry suggesting that any private wedding officiant in Minnesota is commonly called or understood to be a "Justice of the Peace". This is not correct. The office of the Justice of the Peace was abolished by law in 1977 and no private individual should claim the title of a public official. Under State law, certain public officials as well as credentialed clergy may serve to solemnize marriages. In addition, the previous entry made extraneous claims about the status of the Justice of Peace which were not substantiated by any valid source nor supported by law. I deleted the invalid claims and inserted a statement as supported by statutory citations. LAWinans (talk) 00:33, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

Page move

It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it to be moved.

• Citations on the "correctness" of the uncapitalised usage, please. Alai 03:24, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Impossible. The only thing that can be done is to write {{title|justice of the peace}} Georgia guy 14:11, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • I've corrected this to the "possible" move, which I assume is the intent: LC the P. I'm still not convinced of the merits of that and that shows, however... Alai 16:32, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Agree. Like any other personal title, it is only capitalised when actually used as the introduction or prefix to someone's name. For example, we can talk about an lieutenant governor, but it would be not capitalised it unless it was referring to "Lieutenant Governor Judy Smith".   –radiojon 02:56, 2005 Jun 11 (UTC)
• Oppose. It's an official title, sadsadsadsaasdsaddsdsddgfdsfd and so should be capitalised. Proteus (Talk) 14:10, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• British convention is to capitalise. Seeing as the article is mainly about the origins of this ancient office in England and its continued existence in England and elsewhere in the Commonwealth, this should be respected Andrew Yong 16:37, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Weak oppose, as per Andrew Yong. Unless we have a crushingly clear stylistic convention to the contrary, which AFAIK, we don't. Alai 17:10, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Accuracy question

Are all Justices of the Peace in all the countries mentioned appointed by commission? I would expect some in the US to be appointed by a local executive, or elected. -- Beland 02:36, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

Partial answer: In Australia, JPs in NSW are appointed by commission. I believe this is also the case in Victoria, and not the case in Queensland. Happy to stand corrected! --Chrisrowland 04:10, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Marriage?

I know that Justices of the Peace in the U.S. were formerly entitled to conduct weddings. Is this still the case? The article says very little about the powers of U.S. Justices of the Peace. --85.74.166.150 22:54, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Agreed. I actually came here looking for that very question. More information should be included for Justices of the Peace in the United States. --99.157.108.248 (talk) 17:13, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

order

It is curious that the order of this article does not start with the United Kingdom - and more specifically England, where Justices of the Peace originated. They are in fact one of England's most important social developments, as the qualification for office was that the Justices owned land. It was not enough simply to be wealthy. Consequently, local legal and administrative power resided in the landed gentry, which contributed greatly to social stability and no doubt conservatism, and partly explains why in the United Kingdon, the landed gentry today are still regarded as of a higher social standing than those who are merely wealthy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Herrylaw (talk • contribs) 08:51, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes it is still the case, at least in Minnesota. (reference: my married friends and the justice who married them). thx1138 13:39, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Merge

• Strong oppose as to moving the "Magistrate" page or combining it with "Justice of the Peace." They are distinctly different offices in the U.S., and should each have their own pages. User:Elendil's Heir 11:20pm EST, 9 April 2006.
• Oppose, same reasons. Pmadrid 22:11, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose. per above. -Aude (talk | contribs) 23:33, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
• Strong oppose as Magistrate can mean very different animals Fastifex 13:23, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
• Strong oppose as per Fastifex. Not all magistrates are justices of the peace, e.g. stipendiary magistrates elsewhere in the Commonwealth (English stipes are now district judges), magistrates in civil law systems, various Roman officials, etc. Andrew Yong 13:10, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
• Strong oppose They are simply different. Magistrates, in australia, are professional lawyers appointed like judges to lower level courts, esp the Federal Magistrates Court. JPs are citizens who perform limited roles, such as issueing warrants, but usually just witnessing docs. In some states they grant bail if a Mag is not available, and rarely 2 JPs in the country can, in theory, hear a minor criminal case.

Changes log

Took off some graffiti. There may have been some extra stuff removed when the graffiti was added. Hopefully the article is still complete. Andrewdoane 21:18, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Userbox available

{{User:UBX/Justice of the Peace}}

--One Salient Oversight 11:58, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Clean up request

Nothing major needed - probably just needs sections identifying better, e.g. the Australian States are same size font as Australia, countries aren't really geographical or alphabetical - it could just look neater. Ianguy 03:01, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Request to add citations for verification

In "Australia" section, this article mentioned:

(paragraph 2) "Generally speaking, a justice of the peace cannot act in relation to a document which is to be used in a foreign country"

(paragraph 3) "Documents which are to be used in a foreign country that does not provide for a foreign JP to witness them should be dealt with by a notary public"

I don't live in Australia, and I am not sure the accuracy of these two sentences. I added 2 "fact" tag for these 2 sentances. It would be great help if anyone adds the citation for these sentences.

Thanks --Wolfch (talk) 05:21, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

These sentences are removed--Wolfch (talk) 14:37, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

English speaking world bias

Funny how this article is written with the english speaking world, even Common Wealth, world of view assumption in mind.

Next to no mention whereabouts in the world the concept of JP has any meaning. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.93.224.103 (talk) 08:15, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Justice de paix

Hello, we have on the French wiki a page dedicated to the justice of peace (fr:Justice de paix). If someone is gifted on Wikipedia it would be interested in making the link! --Ybourgogne (talk) 07:50, 19 May 2021 (UTC)