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Telemundo really is on channel 33.7. Please add that info to the KWPX-TV page in a way that is acceptable to you. Someone persistently removes the custom KWPX tables that include Telemundo, and replaces them with Ion templates. 63.226.201.69 (talk) 01:14, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for a fine editor

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Hey Bumm

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@FlightTime Public howdy! =^)

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ISCC-NBS colors

Thanks for adding the ISCC-NBS colors to color infoboxes. I wonder, where do you find these? Is there some online app that calculates the name? I'd like to know what are the ISCC-NBS names for many Pantone colors. ANDROS¹³³⁷_TALK 01:08, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

@Andros 1337: Thanks for noticing my work! Unfortunately, there's no online app that will calculate the name used. One has to convert sRGB to Munsell color system notation (I use an older version of this Windows app; it's good enough for the purpose) and then refer to pages (pp. 16-31) in the (ISCC-NBS) Color: Universal Language and Dictionary of Names [1] that show Munsell notation grids with the color names on them. Needless to say, it's been a lot of work! Since you mentioned Pantone™, I've noticed that their color names don't always like to line up with the ISCC-NBS color name categories... Bumm13 (talk) 22:31, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Colors, in general, and Aero blue

Thanks, in general, for your edits on color articles. There's lots to do, and too few editors interested in working on them, so I appreciate you involvement.

That said, I'm puzzled about this edit

I had removed Aero blue from List of colors: A–F on the basis that the underlying article wasn't acceptably sourced, and you have provided a source. However, the source has the RGB triple (192,232,213) while the article has the triple (201, 255, 229). Is it as simple as that you found a source, but simply forgot to update the value? I can update the values in Shades of cyan and restore Aero blue to the list article, but I wanted to make sure we are on the same page, so to speak.--S Philbrick(Talk) 15:05, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Yes, it looks like I simply neglected to update Aero blue's RGB triple based on the Resene source. It's also not unheard of for companies like Resene to change their given RGB information for their color products over time. Go ahead and update the information for Aero blue if I don't get to it first. I appreciate the thanks, cleaning through much of the mess in the color articles was a lot of work, to say the least. Cheers! Bumm13 (talk) 18:17, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Bumm13,  Done And thanks for your edits to the color articles, I've noticed. S Philbrick(Talk) 12:51, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

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Redirects with "main" template

Hi Bumm13, I just noticed this edit: [2]. Could you tell me if there's some guideline/discussion that WP:NOTBROKEN doesn't apply here? I prefer the previous version with the redirect; it's fairly obvious that it's about the food, not gyroscopes for example... --IamNotU (talk) 00:57, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

What is obvious to one person is not necessarily obvious to another. Why leave the matter to ambiguity? Thus, I disambiguated the link. Bumm13 (talk) 01:37, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the explanation. If there's no particular consensus that WP:NOTBROKEN doesn't apply to "main" templates, I'm going to revert it. I do feel it reads better the previous way, disambiguation is not necessary, and there's no reason to avoid the redirect. Happy to discuss it further on the article's talk page if you'd like. --IamNotU (talk) 11:42, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Tertiary Color Editing

Hello, I recently ran into a dispute with Tupac Huang on the article Tertiary Color.

It happened when I manually reverted a edit that I thought were inaccurate since the color names were changed to something not related to some of the colors (Gold, Scarlet, etc). They undid my edit saying that their renames were more reliable and started a discussion about this to my talk page. It turns out that the user is using a original website/image source by an online user named HughLaurie1959, who looks like to be a friend of this user. I tried giving them sources and links to help pages about why this is against the Wikipedia guidelines. Another user under a IP address ended up commenting on our discussion saying that their source is still reliable. I’m assuming that this is the same person, but not logged in. After I’ve tried to restate what I said, they didn’t give me a response.

I don’t know what to do or what more to say because this is my first time I’ve been in something like this. I would like to undo what they have done, but I have a feeling that they will revert it back to their old edits and might result in a edit warring. Marvelous Char (talk) 03:17, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

These aren't full colournames, only the grey names are full colour names, the hue name must be preceded by a shade name (and shade name followed by a hue name) to get the full colour name. It's like converting HSV to RGB, not H to RGB. So FF2000 would be Bright Zarqa, and so on. Tupac Huang (talk) 09:08, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

This is the first time I've seen this website before. I'm not sure it can be considered a reliable source at all per Wikipedia guidelines. Given the idiosyncratic nature of some of this source's color names (I mean, really, lekko? Zarqa? Haha? Khwarezmian?), I'd say you need a few more sources showing that these are even legitimate color names; I'd strongly advise against using this website as a source for color names (which are difficult enough under the best of circumstances). I've reverted the page back to how it was previously before use of the dubious source. Bumm13 (talk) 20:53, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Why do you keep confusing it? You mentioned some of the hue names, which are not the full colour names. For colour naming you would see a shade name followed by a hue name. There's a reason we use HSV to describe colours, not just H. Hue names are not colour names. See the C++ version for a demo of the colour naming. Also, I strongly advise using anything from HughLaurie1959. The names look very reliable. Tupac Huang (talk) 22:41, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

I am HughLaurie1959 from Argentina. Everything they did is useless misinformation, they think that Khwarezmian is just an extinct language, Zarqa and Zinor being Hebrew accents, Haha being the onomatopoeia of laughing and Lekko being Light in Polish, and Scarlet is useless whereas they think Jerry is a given name. They are useless people, and they are also colours! Give the devastating source of that. Blindly speaking Kyrene is the best hue, RYB is misinformation! They act like "blablabla noodles", either they ate a significant amount of ruby, or they are just useless. They are legitimate and trusted. I'm Tupac Huang's friend in all contextual, formal and informal circumstances. --190.245.107.159 (talk) 21:39, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

They also think Gold is a colour, when it is actually a chemical. Lekko is the trusted hue name between Amber and Yellow. Colour name 6 is now released: https://colourname3.netlify.app/colourname6.html . The trusted hue, shade, and grey names ensure it is possible to name colours with trusted names. It is useless to name tertiary and more hues without having also named tertiary values/saturations. HughLaurie1959 is the only trusted user. Tupac Huang (talk) 21:47, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Remember calling me he/him/his. Also it is not original research. It is offensive for them to say Zarqa outside Jordan and Israel. False information for everyone except me and you. Inserting false information is what is called original research. That is absolute bullshit as well. Zarqa is also offensive where most websites are blocked, namely in mainland China. Because the name is actually scarlet. #nojordannoisrael --190.245.107.159 (talk) 21:52, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Gold has always been used as a color name as well , in fact it is also a color name for one of the web colors (ex. “Golden hair”,”Golden Retriever”,”gold glitter”, etc.) Same with scarlet as well. Calling your friend to personally attack us here after Bumm13 has concluded to declare your friend’s website dubious is crude. Please move on from this. Marvelous Char (talk) 23:25, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

I don't care about Gold and Scarlet but I oppose them whereas I support Lekko and Zarqa. Lekko Hair is misinformation but I am HughLaurie1959. Everything is not crude. Lekko and Zarqa is correct information. --190.245.107.159 (talk) 23:55, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

I moved on from untrusted names. It is useless to use hue names as colour names. Hue names must always be preceded by shade names, and vice versa. Tupac Huang (talk) 07:39, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

8888th time that I say, you're my friend. That info is actually true. For me colour names must be first preceded by the Ngoeh shade and to the Bright and to the Ultradark.

Actually those 666 colours missing are your useless opinion. Colourname6+ will add 5 greys making it 1800 colours usable for 7. Actually RYB is useless, Zarqa is Scarlet, they think Zarqa is Jordan, etc. Wanna request a block to Marvelous Char? I say no. Ban Marvelous Char from Type Design. --190.245.107.159 (talk) 15:01, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

All of these people you're interacting with are part of long-running LTA since 2019. They used to send me death threats last year. Stay safe from these people. MarioJump83! 00:53, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

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Muse Software

Three things:

1. Please stop putting "formatting fix" as the edit summary for changes that do not affect page formatting, it is misleading and obfuscates your actual changes. We already discussed that MS-DOS and DOS are not the same, so changing one to the other is a change of fact that has nothing to do with formatting.
2. Please review WP:NOTBROKEN: Links to redirects should not be "fixed" by piping them to their existing target because there is nothing broken in the first place.
3. Commentless reverts like this are not helpful and violate WP:BRD. If you believe your version to be correct, provide a reason and a source. Commentless reverts should be reserved for vandalism.

IceWelder [✉] 14:42, 18 January 2023 (UTC) @IceWelder:

1. Chill with your condescending tone, please. You've made little attempt to WP:AGF in your interactions with me.
2. I am fully aware of WP:NOTBROKEN. It is a "policy" that has never had the backing of actual consensus on Wikipedia.
3. "We already discussed that MS-DOS and DOS are not the same" ← Care to provide a citation showing this previous discussion? I am not remedial; the changes regarding MS-DOS wikilinks are precisely for that reason. MS-DOS is a subset of DOS and Wikipedia has an article discussing that. It's a matter of disambiguation: not all early x86 PC OSes based on the operating system that Bill Gates and Paul Allen bought from Seattle Computer Products are branded as "MS-DOS". If you feel that using the broader term is in error, please either cite a policy page (under Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games) stating what the proper usage should be or bring up the matter at said WikiProject.
4. 9 times out of 10, I get actions/responses like yours because I have stumbled upon one of that user's pet articles that they don't always want others to edit. WP:OWN and all that. Bumm13 (talk) 15:43, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

   Apologies if my original message came off as rude; it was certainly not worded in such a manner on purpose. We had a brief interaction in December 2021 with an identical issue. Back then, I noted how sources (such as the developers themselves) claim the game to have been released specifically for MS-DOS, irrespective of potential compatibility with derivatives or other DOSes. I do not disagree with using "DOS" in general, but it comes down to a matter of verifiability. There is no formal guideline regarding its usage, neither for nor against, though I believe there should be one. I will look into starting an appropriate discussion. In the meantime, please consider using more explanative edit summaries, as this will likely lessen the number of negative interactions you will face. IceWelder [✉] 17:56, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

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Please self-revert and discuss at Template:Infobox book

Please self-revert this undiscussed edit (with no edit summary) at {{Infobox book}}, per WP:BRD. Making a bold edit to a template is one thing, but reinstating after a revert is a bridge too far. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:09, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi- you are an active admin... can you help me?

Multiple users under different names have been cyberbullying/harassing/slandering the Generations of Virtue Page. As a young person who is trying to do the right thing always I have dealt with this for years, patiently deleting slanderous and threatening messages along with fact checking sources and deleting typos and disinformation. Aggressive and exploitative users include; Livebotm, DaLaw, Jakal777. This bullying is extremely detrimental to my mental health. Please help me? sorry if this is not the right way to do this but I don't know what else to do. Ilovesnacksiloveyou (talk) 18:13, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Overlinking

Please see MOS:OVERLINK, bluelinking basic things like "cat" and "rock" are unnecessary. Thank you. Waxworker (talk) 20:11, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

@Waxworker: --Nonsense, they're fine. Bumm13 (talk) 21:06, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

They are not fine, and clearly violate MOS:OVERLINK. I don't think linking to things like "rock" "bee" and "milk" on Adventure Island benefit the reader in any way, and I don't think anyone needs any clarification as to what milk is when reading an article for a video game. @Smuckola: - Pinging Smuckola for their input, as they also reverted overlinking. Waxworker (talk) 21:23, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

:Yeah Bumm13, this has nothing at all to do with us. Between this thread and this, you're gonna stop the WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT WP:NOTGETTINGIT, and the pretending that you can't read MOS:OVERLINK, implying that you didn't know it's your solemn duty to uphold the MoS, implying that you didn't know how to propose changes to the MoS at its Talk page, or taking it out on us. You aren't waiting for anything. You immediately got the only discussion there is ----> one link to MOS:OVERLINK with a giant neon "MOS:OVERLINK" sign atop a skyscraper encircled by airplanes pulling streamer signs saying "MOS:OVERLINK" under a flying circus of drones that animate the letters of "MOS:OVERLINK". You can turn right on around, revert any of your violations that might remain in this encyclopedia, and take your war against the MoS over to Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Linking because there was and is nothing to say to us. When ya get there, I don't recommend passive-aggressively mocking the MoS instead of maintaining it. Waxworker could graciously do your job for you better, with finer grained reverts of other people's mass messes, but we thank you for having already started doing your job there. There's nothing else to say, so game over, for here. — Smuckola(talk) 23:32, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

A lot of verbose horse shit... Bumm13 (talk) 00:16, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

A discussion you may be interested in

Hi again. In past interactions with me and a handful of other editors, you have been vocal in your opposition to WP:NOTBROKEN. A discussion regarding this guideline is currently underway at Wikipedia talk:Redirect#NOTBROKEN needs to be moderated. If you're interested, feel free to head over. Regards, IceWelder [✉] 12:48, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

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