User talk:Dcheney/Archive 1

Archive 1

BTW: I have answered your question in Talk:List of Roman Catholic dioceses. andy 16:18, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the help Andy - I'm an old hand at the net, but new around here. I have done a lot of work with Catholic Bishops and Dioceses which is why I've been looking over some of those articles. Dcheney 03:50, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

You're welcome. I am fairly interested in the dioceses as well, so chances are that we will probably cross ways while editing sometimes. As you said you've done some research already, maybe you'd like to review my articles on the dioceses in Thailand, as well as the Thai bishops? It seems that only the dioceses in the US are quite well covered so far, as well as the current cardinals, but for everything else there's a lot of potential for you to write new articles. But be careful - Wikipedia is addictive, but also lots of fun (unless when its so crawling slow like now). andy 11:27, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

At the moment I'm doing a lot of work on my main website, so I doubt I'll tackle anything too large on here for a while. You might find the section of my website that covers Thailand to be interesting in regards to your articles. Catholic Church in Thailand Dcheney 03:28, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

Third Party sources

I've set up a query on Talk:Catholic-Hierarchy about third party sources and WP:WEB. If you've got any third party coverage it would be useful to know. JASpencer 18:23, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

As a general practice when I'm contacted by the media or authors wishing to cite my site I suggest instead that they use the official sources that I myself use.--Dcheney 19:55, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

List of Oldest Catholic Bishops"

I Really Appreciate The Help and Insight you have given to the page I created " List of Oldest Catholic Bishops" . --Thomas 05:05, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

No problem - I'm always glad to find others that are interested in bishops and such. I think you are already aware of it, but if not: I am the webmaster of the Catholic-Hierarchy website. I've also got a page of the oldest and youngest bishops there.--Dcheney 15:30, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Roman Catholic Bishops

As a member of WikiProject Catholicism I wanted to inform you that some members of Wikipedia believe that most Roman Catholic Bishops do not merit an article on Wikipedia. Since I am unaware of a position on Wikipedia on this matter I decided to bring this to your attention. The three articles on bishops are up for AfD, they are: : John Joseph Nevins , René Henry Gracida , and Felipe de Jesus Estevez Callelinea 20:49, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Linking to Wikipedia articles from Catholic Church hierachy

Have you ever considered linking to Wikipedia articles from Catholic Church hierachy? Or the Catholic Encyclopedia? JASpencer (talk) 23:20, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry about my slow response - been a busy month so far. Because of the nature of my website, I only provide links to official websites (with some very rare exceptions).--Dcheney (talk) 15:54, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Bishop Alfred_Seiwert-Fleige

Hello, you are a member of the Wikiproject Catholicism.We would appreciate your help. Please take a look at this article about the catholic bishop Alfred_Seiwert-Fleige . Users deleted sources and tried to force their anti-catholic POV on it. They banned many people that tried to add sources. They didnt block me or Eastmain, but they deleted our sources we gave too. It appears that they don't like this catholic bishop.

Best version until now with 13 sources: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alfred_Seiwert-Fleige&diff=343039227&oldid=343037941

And after deleting the sources: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alfred_Seiwert-Fleige&action=historysubmit&diff=343481960&oldid=343039227

(At first they had planned on deleting the whole article but it didnt work)

Check out at the information on these other wikipedia articles about Seiwert Fleige and compare them to the info that is on there now. You will notice that its quite the oposite:

Pierre_Martin_Ngô_Đình_Thục

Palmarian_Catholic_Church

Sedevacantism

Clemente_Domínguez_y_Gómez

Thank you --Michelle cannon (talk) 22:10, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

I only deal with the Catholic Church. I am not interested in pretenders.--Dcheney (talk) 02:31, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations

Congratulations on your wonderfully concise and clear reply to an enquiry. Esoglou (talk) 05:41, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Death of a Cardinal (updated)

This is just an attempt to provide a simple list of the pages that typically need to be updated upon the death of a Cardinal:

• Personal page of the Cardinal (various)
• Page of his archdiocese or curial office (various)
• List of living cardinals

adjust "as of" date

adjust total number of cardinals (and voting number, if appropriate)

adjust "last cardinal to die" entry

adjust Cardinals by continent table

adjust country list, if appropriate

adjust Cardinals by sui juris church, if appropriate

adjust the summary table (cardinal rank by pope)

remove cardinal entry from the main table

• List of titular churches in Rome

change entry: add "vacant (Death of..."

• College of Cardinals

update date and numbers under "Choosing the Pope"

update date under "Members of ..."

remove entry from the table

adjust "Cardinals by nationality"

adjust "Size of ..."

Workload

David, just one question, please: How in the world do you find the time to run catholic-hierarchy.org and do other things(like Wiki) at the same time(I've admired the job you do on CH for years and always had that question)? The Holy See must have found a way for you to be endowed with 28 hours/day!--Lyricmac (talk) 23:54, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

My other projects (namely the main website) do keep me rather busy (not to mention my day job!). I have literally years worth of data entry ready to go that I have not started yet. I usually keep several mini-projects in work at the same time, so I can switch between them as time permits. (Currently for the main website, I'm working on the old PEM; contact info and stats from AP2011; Hierarchia Catholica v4; and the ever present current events.) I try to keep an eye on things here on Wiki, but I just don't have the time to spend on it. Although if there is an article/issue that needs my attention, folks are welcome to mention it - no promises that I'll be able to work on it, but I'll try.--Dcheney (talk) 14:21, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for all your work and may Our Risen Lord continue to richly bless you in all of your endeavours.--Lyricmac (talk) 19:31, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you

Visiting your userpage after noticing your comment on the Andrew Pataki discussion on WP Catholicism, I just wanted to thank you for the priceless resource that is Catholic-Hierarchy.com. I can't tell you how useful it's been in my editing here on Wikipedia, and as a general source of information. — AJDS ^talk 01:11, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm always glad to hear folks find it useful. When I started expanding the site (very early on), there were less than a handful of dioceses with websites. The net sure has changed.--Dcheney (talk) 00:24, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Titular Sees

David, I was wondering how to find out where the various titular sees are located that you refer to in Catholic Hierarchy? Thanx. Lyricmac (talk) 18:48, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

For current titular sees, a rough suggestion of their location is provided (usually province and/or metropolitan) on the site. If you are looking for a better source, I'd recommend the book Index Sedium Titularium Archiepiscopalium et Episcopalium, published in 1933, but its very difficult to obtain. It contains 3 color maps showing the locations of most titular sees at that time. To the best of my knowledge, it is not available anywhere online. --Dcheney (talk) 23:02, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

The Index is listed a couple of times in conjunction with the gcatholic.com website, no particulars; just that it is a document issued by the Congregation of Bishops in 1933. I found the following, also on gcatholic.com, with which you probably are already familiar: http://www.gcatholic.com/dioceses/index.htm.--Lyricmac (talk) 03:01, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Yes, its an excellent site.--Dcheney (talk) 17:20, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Bishop Augustin Roman

Thank you for your patience. I tried my best to update a bit the article using the official sources included under references. Cordially, --RCarmine (talk) 04:51, 12 April 2012 (UTC) (volunteer contributor to it:Progetto:Cattolicesimo)

National Archives meetup

Hi Dcheney! Thank you for signing up for the National Archives Meetup and Scanathon in Kansas City. I just want to remind you that this is taking place this Saturday, two days from now, starting at 9 a.m. We hope to see you there! Please let me know if you have any questions. Dominic·t 13:59, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Only question would be how much do you need a scanner there?--Dcheney (talk) 22:55, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

It's not required. However, if you have a scanner with you (or if someone else brings one and you can share), it just means you'll get to spend your time scanning the historical documents. As long as you have a computer, though, you can edit articles related to the theme of the event. The idea here is just to have a fun time while sharing knowledge. :-) Judging from the e-mailed RSVPs, there may be several other people coming who have little to no Wikipedia experience at all, so you might get a chance to do some teaching, too. Dominic·t 23:21, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

July 2012

Thank you for your contributions. One of your recent contributions to Roman Catholic Archdiocese of San Francisco has been reverted or removed, because it contains speculative or unconfirmed information about a future event. Wikipedia has a policy called "Wikipedia is not a crystal ball", which discourages such edits. Please only add material about future events if it is verifiable, based on a reference to a reliable source. Thank you. Elizium23 (talk) 01:20, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

My edits were only made after the official announcement was made in Rome. I am preparing a comment on the Catholic Project page to correct some inaccurate information you posted there earlier today.--Dcheney (talk) 01:27, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

I have posted nothing inaccurate. The canons you cite are linked and quoted verbatim on Talk:Salvatore J. Cordileone, and they support my position and prove you wrong. Elizium23 (talk) 19:53, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Since my work is so divisive, I'll stop making any updates. Goodbye.--Dcheney (talk) 06:10, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

I have certainly not asked you to stop editing. It is merely requested that you edit according to policies and guidelines, which reflect consensus on Wikipedia, and factual accuracy, which is important for the integrity of the encyclopedia. While you are not a prolific editor, you have made edits which are constructive and valuable to the integrity of Wikipedia and WP:CATHOLIC in particular. I would regret to see you leaving over a simple issue and a simple collegial request, made without malice on my part. Elizium23 (talk) 16:15, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Some simple help maybe needed on the new papabili list

If you have the time and the possibility the new List of papabili in the 2013 papal conclave WP article could need some help. You could start by taking a look at the talk page. Thanks Pgarret (talk) 09:10, 5 March 2013 (UTC))

Thanks for pointing it out. I added a small comment on the talk page. IMO, the existence of the page can't be reconciled with Wiki rules. That being said, others here don't seem to like my edits generally, so I'm not sure my view counts.--Dcheney (talk) 00:09, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

WP Catholicism in the Signpost

The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Catholicism for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. –Mabeenot (talk) 04:22, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Correction for Bishop Theodore Reverman (middle name)

Greetings,

For Diocese of Superior, Wisconsin Bishop Reverman, his middle name is Henry. At 'find-a-grave' the headstone shows the H and Henry is shown in our diocese centennial book. At Theodore H. Reverman I made the correction for Wikipedia.

Regards, JoeHebda (talk) 13:40, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Roman Catholic Diocese of Jefferson City

Thanks for your edit to Roman Catholic Diocese of Jefferson City but you have put back a link to Roman Catholic Diocese of Kansas City, which could be either - if there a better target for the link?— Rod ^talk 12:57, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

The current name of the Diocese in Missouri is Kansas City-St Joseph, not sure the exact spelling on Wiki --Dcheney (talk) 13:01, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

Fixed now --Dcheney (talk) 13:11, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

Archive 1

Fr. Luis Miguel Romero Fernández request for deletion

Hello Dcheney,

You may want to get in on this discussion, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Luis Miguel Romero Fernández

Roberto221 (talk) 11:12, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Auxiliary Bishop

Sorry to impose but I need your voice again on this one:

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeffrey S. Grob

Roberto221 (talk) 16:39, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem

Does he need to be installed like ordinary bishops? Pierbattista Pizzaballa? Elizium23 (talk) 19:27, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

As far as I know. Just looking at my databases, I show past installations for Venezia, Lisboa, Melkite, Maronite, and Syrian. (Older installations generally aren't available because they just aren't mentioned - unless it the Pope.) Dcheney (talk) 19:54, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Dcheney, right, thanks... and the Pope is a special case, being that he accedes to the Chair immediately upon uttering "accepto"... I mean like, even if he's not already a bishop? Elizium23 (talk) 20:29, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

The reason I am reluctant here to give a makeover is because none of the news sources have indicated a date for the installation; mostly a future date is named and discussed in the article... I'd hate to be wrong in this regard. Elizium23 (talk) 20:34, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Oh I understand fully. But given the current covid world, it is taking longer for many ordinations and installations to get scheduled. At least he already has connections, so it shouldn't be as difficult. Dcheney (talk) 21:04, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Eastern Catholic suffragans

I noticed that the Archd of Agra has two Syro-Malabar suffragans in addition to the Latin Church dioceses. Now how does that work exactly? There is no Archeparchy of their own church to report to? What authority does the archbishop exercise? Elizium23 (talk) 20:04, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

On a practical basis, I have no idea. Would be a canonical mess. I just ran a query and found one mistake that will be fixed in the next build (Zahleh e Furzol, Melkite). But other than that, there are 17 cases where a diocese is under a different rite that its metropolitan - in all cases the metropolitan is latin rite. 10 of those are Syro-Malabar. I hand checked several and verified their metropolitan in the current AP2020. Dcheney (talk) 00:40, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank You

Thanks for the help with Luis Miguel Romero Fernández…

"Fight the Good Fight Every Moment"

Roberto221 (talk) 21:06, 1 April 2020 (UTC)