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• I have explained myself here User_talk:Onel5969#Otello_Corporation. The article was previously redirected as another page was incorrectly move there and the consensus was that both companies are distinct (User talk:Fayenatic london#CFD results: Opera Software). I am only fixing WP:COAT and the article already fits WP:CORP. The editors aren't in conflict with me but with the previous page move which I had now corrected. I extensively sourced and cited info in the article and request you to revert the rollback. This rollback also breaks meaningful links in Opera Software. Gotitbro (talk) 19:00, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
  • To clarify my edit was inline with the previous consensus and I even added the discussions in my edit summaries. Not sure why you didn't go through them. Gotitbro (talk) 19:07, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

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I just used it randomly as a joke. A combination of numbers and letters that are difficult to read.--3E1I5S8B9RF7 (talk) 17:57, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

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Chhota Rajan Infobox

Can you please check Template:Infobox criminal and fill up the prison status , location etc details as described in the template. thank you. --DBigXray 21:48, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

• @DBigXray: I have added some fields that were missing but since the article does not contain much info most fields cannot be filled unfortunately. Gotitbro (talk) 22:13, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

• Thanks, that is good for now, It is not expected to fill all the fields. there are far too many of them. we should only try to fill to importnatn onces and valid ones. it is helpful now. --DBigXray 09:45, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

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• @R'n'B: Thanks for letting me know. All of these pages with the Asianet link need to be changed to Asianet (TV channel). Is there a tool that can help me with this? As these are a lot of articles I don't think I'll be able to fix them manually. It would be great if you can change the links as well. Gotitbro (talk) 10:50, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
  • If you're sure that all of those links should be to the TV channel article, that's easy to do. But can you be certain that none of them actually refer to one of the other topics on the disambiguation page? --R'n'B (call me Russ) 12:39, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
    • @R'n'B: Yes, I'm certain that all links on there are for the TV channel. Gotitbro (talk) 12:56, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

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I reverted your reversion; from the cited reference given, the changes are factual, not vandalism. Please take this to talk if you still disagree. I do think the editor is an employee of the company and needs to declare potential conflict of interest, but Bloomberg News is considered a reliable source. Regards, Tarl N. (discuss) 20:53, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

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@SshibumXZ: I see the issue with capitalization but then the page should have been moved to "District courts of India", as all references in the article state it, not to District courts in India. I am going to move the page to District courts of India, if there any issues let me know. Gotitbro (talk) 14:54, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

Undid revision 867509345 (Nuclear Triad page)

Hi !

Thanks for going through my edits on the article on Nuclear Triads. I have various independent sources (not wiki articles) that confirm that Pakistan successfully tested SLCM Babur III in January 2017. The test was conducted in the Arabian sea by the Pakistan Navy and SPD, and the press release includes footage of the cruise missile during it's launch and flight over sea and land.

Regarding referencing, I understand I am rather new to referencing on wiki pages, therefore i'll try to double check and correct mistakes where they exist. Please let me know if you have any pointers.

Please see the following articles related to this matter:

Press release tweet with missile launch footage (ISPR Press Release)

Articles (Article 1)

News and media (Dawn, The Diplomat) — Preceding unsigned comment added by AAG Baron (talk • contribs) 00:55, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

@AAG Baron: Yes, its correct that Pakistan tested the underwater nuclear missile Babur 3 but it still hasn't been tested from a submarine, it was launched from "an underwater, mobile platform" (per the tandfonline.com source), which is what qualifies as a nuclear triad. From the T&F source:

Once it becomes operational, the Babur-3 will provide Pakistan with a triad of nuclear strike platforms from ground, air, and sea. The Pakistani government said the Babur-3 was motivated by a need to match India’s nuclear triad and the “nuclearization of [the] Indian Ocean Region”.

The missile isn't even operational as of now. ISPR press release is not to be used per WP:PRIMARY, Dawn is just a rehash of the press release, The Diplomat is good. Also see what has been mentioned on the Babur missile article itself:

"On 9 January 2017, Pakistan conducted a successful launch of the Babur III missile from an underwater mobile platform. The Babur-III has a range of 450 km and can be used as a second-strike capability. It has been speculated that the missile is ultimately designed to be incorporated with the Agosta 90B class submarine which has been reported to have been modified. However no such tests have been carried out yet."

I'd recommend not adding the PK section in the Nuclear triad article as of now, if you want add it under the "Suspected triad powers" in the article and tweak the text to say that Pakistan is still developing its program. I see that you undid mine and another editor's reverts without providing a valid reason, this is not considered good and you should always discuss such changes rather than reverting multiple editors. I have undone your edits for now, let me know of there are any other concerns. Gotitbro (talk) 01:20, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

I believe the evidence is sufficient as for the successful tests of the SLCM Babur III, as for operational deployment, surely those details are not always sent out as press releases and can not be easily verified. I disagree regarding putting the edits under "suspected nuclear triads", there's far more evidence to support nuclear triad capability than lets say Israel (or previous triads, e.g. France). I reverted your edits because I was making changes to improve citations. I hope you understand, and take a few minutes before the changes are updated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AAG Baron (talk • contribs) 01:29, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

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Hi Gotitbro, I am responding here to your comment at the Pakistan-adminstered Kashmir AfD, because there is too much noise there already. Frankly speaking that footnote is needed only for the AJK article because "Azad Kashmir" is a loaded POV term in India and Indian editors would come and change it to POK. But the pro-Pakistan editors insisted on a reciprocal footnote on Jammu and Kashmir as well, and so I acquiesced. The Gilgit-Baltistan page does not have any of these problems. It is a purely geographical name and has no POV's attached to it. So I am not sure what footnote to put there. Pinging DBigXray as well. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 22:30, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

That footnote to me spoke out as to what others are calling the respective regions. While the AJK lead mentions that both it and GB are referred to as Pakistan-administered Kashmir no such thing is there on the GB article. A simple mention of this and preferably even (obviously reworked) a note would be great for users who land on the pages via the different terms. Gotitbro (talk) 22:47, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

• Kautilya3 India calls the Gilgit Baltistan area as a part of PoK. UN and world also consider it a part of "Pak administered Kashmir", this can be noted as a "note" on the GB article.--DBigXrayᗙ 22:51, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

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Just a friendly heads up on Sajjad Kishwar. I declined your speedy deletion request -- if you look at the sources, one is for a lifetime achievement award, which is definitely a good faith claim of importance. ----Fabrictramp | talk to me 20:34, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

@Fabrictramp: I see, I only marked the page as I could not find anything about the individual elsewhere. Not sure how notable the award is but even the linked article just makes a passing on the individual. Gotitbro (talk) 21:00, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

That would definitely be a reason to request deletion via PROD or AfD. Avoiding speedy is a lower standard -- A7 is meant to quickly delete articles like "Prof Jones is an Adjunct Professor at Podunk College who wrote an article once." Cheers! ----Fabrictramp | talk to me 22:51, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Need to create a page for Koyal.pk (An official Music Platform like taazi and Patari)

Hello, This is mr afshaan memon from the Koyal.pk. Short details:

Koyal.pk is an Pakistani music streaming service. It was launched in 2018. The entire Pakistani Sindhi, pashto, balochi and Urdu music catalog is available to users in all over Pakistan. Koyal.pk features music from 7 languages including the major languages such as Urdu, Punjabi, Saraiki, Sindhi, Pashto, Balochi, Hindko and other Pakistani regional languages.

As i can't create it my self so please need your help kindly create if you need any sort of information and data you can ask.

Thanks Afshaan Memon Koyal.pk — Preceding unsigned comment added by Koyal.pk (talk • contribs) 17:29, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

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Deletion of reliable content from Indian state articles

Why are you deleting reliable govt. sourced content from articles like Uttar Pradesh and Bihar? Different Indian Govt. sources group states into different regions that need to be highlighted in the article. The regional terms like North India or East India are not mentioned in the article bodies either. If you want, different govt. definitions can be added in the article body and then highlighted in the lead. Check Germany which mentions it being part of "Central and Western Europe". Lead fixation can be corrected as well. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 07:10, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: We don't use government definitions for geographic places, only widely accepted ones are used and placing administrative territories in multiple regions is generally avoided. For Bihar, the general definition is that it is in eastern India as can be seen from Bihar at the Encyclopædia Britannica, for Uttar Pradesh as well it is generally accepted as a northern state ("Uttar Pradesh". Lexico UK English Dictionary. Oxford University Press. n.d.). The WP:STATUSQUO for a long time has been the same and I don't see anything that has changed. Gotitbro (talk) 07:21, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

States are government defined not geographic so I believe they need to highlight govt. definitions. Secondly, why should we rely on Britannica and Oxford for definitions only. Check Germany, lede mentions it to be: ...is a country in Central and Western Europe while Germany at the Encyclopædia Britannica mentions it in "north-central europe". And thirdly, is there a consensus regarding how a Political region be defined? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 07:30, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: As I said multiple regional locators such as those added by you and an editor before are avoided as confusing and unclear, Germany might as well be a exception here. It makes no sense to list a state as "north, north-central, eastern etc." all in one go which renders it completely meaningless and confusing. There is a reason the articles described the locations of the states as are definitively accepted. We'll follow the STATUSQUO here and the widely/generally accepted definitions as such. Gotitbro (talk) 07:37, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Why would Germany be an exception. Obviously its geo-political position has been discussed heavily in Wikipedia. I agree that "north, north-central, eastern etc." looks confusing and can be cleaned but Germany being part of "Central and Western Europe" is just as confusing. The thing is, a lot of states do not fall in a specific region. Do you think Uttar Pradesh is absolutely Northern Indian, obviously it has a big chunk in Central part of India. And you didn't explain why we should follow "Britannica" like a sheep. European country articles do not follow it as it is. Sorry I'm not convinced. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:04, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Well then it should be discussed at the article of Germany. States might not a fall in a "specific" region but we aren't going to list a myriad zones in the lead. The generally accepted definitions were used before and Britannica is definitely a useful guideline, pointing to any resource does not mean being a sheep. The precedent and STATUSQUO has been clear for a long time, don't see anything that's changed since and needs convincing. Gotitbro (talk) 08:10, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

You didn't provide a concensus or rule regarding this. And why should we consider only Britannica? Doesn't make any sense since European articles do not copy paste from those sites. I agree that multiple regions mentioned might be confusing but we can correct those by mentioning which govt. sources are grouping the states within which zone. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:36, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

The WP:LEAD has to be straightforward and uncomplicated, by mentioning multiple zones/regions add on top of that mentioning govt. sources is the opposite of that. Moreover the govt. zones shouldn't be used to describe the location of the states especially when their location is widely described otherwise [also the government zones are for administrative purposes which do not consider the situation of places]. Britannica isn't the only source but it is definitely a guideline and has been used as the basis of a lot of articles on Wikipedia. What you're suggesting is just confusing and simply unencyclopedic. Gotitbro (talk) 09:46, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

What about removing the geographical identifier altogether. We can write it as "Uttar Pradesh is a state in the Upper and Middle Gangetic plains of India, etc, etc". That would be succinct enough. I saw a lot of articles where this has been done. I find the "northern India" confusing since if you see the geography neutrally, you'll find that UP is into central India as well. I don't think 2 sentences Britannica should have that much priority. Nonetheless, Britannica also mentions Uttar Pradesh as multiple regional "north-central India". And about the Bhojpuri region? The one in UP is northern Indian region and neighboring one in in Bihar be is eastern Indian? Kinda absurd don't you think? For identifying a state geographically, you need a geographic source not Britannica. I agree with some of the things you say but not all. I agree that mentioning multiple regions in the opening sentence doesn't look good but they are needed. If not in the first few sentences, then in the latter part of the lead. See Spain. And you want, that can be added into the article body as well. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:29, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

That is confusing as well, not everyone what the Gangetic plains are etc. While descriptors such as north-central etc. might be kind of acceptable they aren't applicable here as again these aren't accepted widely. The two sentences of Britannica do hold weight because if we go completely technical on geographic basis we'll be straying away from writing for an encyclopedia. Mentioning multiple regions in the lead is definitely not needed and adding a few supporting in the body isn't helpful wither. In the end fact of the matter is, UP is considered a northern state regardless of that it borders Bihar and similarly for other states. Being pedantic and adding a multitude of regions for technicality isn't going to help the WP:READER. Gotitbro (talk) 10:46, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

"Northern" is confusing and vague as hell. A neutral Non-South Asian will definitely think that Uttar Pradesh is not the same as Punjab or Kashmir location wise if he compares it in an Atlas. Gangetic plains or Ganges river is much more specific. And Indian govt. definitions for an Indian state is far from trivial information. I'm flexible enough to agree to some of your concerns but you are getting too much rigid with your POV using Britannica and Oxford dictionaries as supports. Even Great Britain article doesn't have a single reference to Encyclopedia Britannica. And what's this "accepted widely"? By Britannica? You don't seem to accept Britannica's definition of Uttar Pradesh as "north-central" either. Your definition that UP is "northern Indian" is unsourced. Secondly, Britannica is not considered much reliable and is only suitable when there's no source supporting a specific topic. See Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_115#Is_Encyclopedia_Britannica_a_reliable_source.- Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:42, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

The govt. sources used for zonal arrangements are definitely trivial and best ignored. I don't see anything related to POV in here, simply restoring the STATUSQUO before this multiple region conundrum is clearly not that. UP is clearly a northern state and was thus as such in the article from the beginning, I don't see any reason to unnecessarily table sources for this. [Though descriptions such as "north-central" are better than "northern, north-central, eastern" etc.] The location of Bihar can be discussed, its also best done at its Talk page. Yes, Britannica is tertiary but its definitely WP:RS and has served as the basis for many articles on Wikipedia even the ones being discussed now; so it definitely serves as guideline to follow for encyclopedic articles. Also look at the GA version of the article for Uttar Pradesh. Gotitbro (talk) 14:06, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Since it is a Govt. sources versus "widely accepted" Britannica sources, it is better to have the centralized discussion. I moved it to WP:IN. Check it. I forgot to mention it. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:21, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: I somehow got notified of it, but thanks for letting me know. I'd like to clarify that I meant widely accepted not just for Britannica but generally. Gotitbro (talk) 14:27, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Misleading summaries

Stop using misleading edit summaries like you are currently doing. The earlier revert was perfectly explained and since you can't even understand WP:TERRORIST per your exlpanation that "refs does not fall under LABEL; the description can be discussed on Talk" then you need to better stop editing these articles. 39.42.106.141 (talk) 18:12, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

@39.42.106.141: Please tone down that WIKILAWYERING. You have removed references and legitimate content from the article which does not fall under LABEL or TERRORIST. If you have a problem with a specific descriptor change the word to something more neutral like militant but removing content under such WP:ES is not done. You are the one who is using "misleading" edit summaries. Gotitbro (talk) 20:44, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Gotitbro, this is your second reminder that Khalistan Commando Force is under an Arbcom 1RR discretionary sanction (the first reminder is the editnotice displayed before you edit). Please undo your most recent revert, and discuss the content matter on the article's talk page. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 23:19, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

@Ivanvector: I see. I have tried to address the concerns in subsequent edits and have explained it on the Talk page. Thanks. Gotitbro (talk) 23:32, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

I understand, and I appreciate your efforts to discuss the situation. However, consensus has not been established, and you have reverted twice in violation of the restriction. If we don't enforce the restrictions as written then they become meaningless - if I don't follow up on you breaking the restriction then anyone else has a good reason to expect that they can revert multiple times too. So I have to ask you one more time, in good faith, to please undo your edit. I am dealing with the IP separately. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 23:51, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Okay I have done so. I think my subsequent were useful hopefully they can help. Thank you. Gotitbro (talk) 00:00, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Gotitbro appreciate your contributions and the fact that you agreed to self revert after being requested. Ivanvector as you can see on the talk page, the person behind this IP and Harmanprtjhj who are clearly only interested in whitewashing this page are not even responding to the talk page concerns or engaging in a fruitful conversation. WP:LABEL (which is a guideline and not a policy) doesn't really ban the use of the word terrorist, but these users believe it does and are actively enforcing this imaginary ban. --DBigXrayᗙ 05:46, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Maharashtra state - central and south

Hello.Can we continue discussion on https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics#Deletion_of_reliable_content_from_Indian_state_articles Many states such as Karnataka, Kerala, Andhra, Telangana are written with more than one region. For example Telangana is mentioned as centre-south part. So in the same way why cannot we write for Maharashtra south, centre and west? Many sources are writing it is also stretching in south and centre regions in India. Can we continue the discussion on that page? BelgaumGoan (talk) 00:22, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

@BelgaumGoan: I have already said what I wanted to regarding that there and don't want to get involved in the dispute further. Maybe other editors can help, hope you understand. Gotitbro (talk) 01:07, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

@Gotitbro: I added talk here because I think you were original person who changed those edits and argued for it. So who else can I discuss with? Do you think it is wrong to add central and southern, to describe it in more detail? BelgaumGoan (talk) 04:27, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

@BelgaumGoan: From what I can see in the discussion on the discussion board, the general opinion seems to be to leave the regions as they were before the recent edits, i.e., not including multiple regions in the lead like in Maharashtra and Uttar Pradesh. So I would recommend not changing the lead. Gotitbro (talk) 07:26, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

@Gotitbro: Then why are multiple regions mentioned for all South states? Telangana was called centre south, Karnataka and Kerala is called south west and Andhra Pradesh is south east. None of them are mentioned by Britannica definition. I am wondering why that double standard?? BelgaumGoan (talk) 13:15, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

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	You do not provide substantial or reliable source to confirm that Naya Raipur/atal nagar which is scarcely populated and not dignified as a city by the state government, would be future capital wiki123 (talk) 16:45, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

You remove a reliable source then say there is none. Please stop this edit warring. Gotitbro (talk) 03:55, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Reverting

(Hi. Me again.) You seem to be using the same edit summary, "rvt vand by IP", over and over again, in cases where that doesn't seem to adequately describe your changes. For example, how can this change possibly be considered reverting vandalism? In several other cases that I checked, I could not determine which edit(s) you were "reverting". So, for the benefit of other editors, could you please clearly specify which change(s) from the past you are undoing when you use (a form of) the word "revert" (unless you are undoing the last change(s) prior to yours, in which case that should be sufficiently clear to everyone)? This can be done by specifying a name and date of an edit, a revision number, or by using the semi-automated "undo" feature. And please try not to describe innocuous changes as "vandalism". Thanks. - dcljr (talk) 01:36, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

@Dcljr: Sorry, I meant to link the edits I was reverting in the edit summary but somehow forgot to do so. I came across many disruptive edits from the same IP range (2601:CB:8200.* / 2601:CB:*) Pakistani POVPUSHING on multiple articles. It is most likely the same user and had been warned on multiple IPs and even blocked on one too. I will make sure to clearly mark the edits I am reverting in the future. Gotitbro (talk) 01:47, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Dawn Media Group article has misinformation in introduction

Hi Gotitbro. I have noticed that you have previously taken an interest in the Dawn Media Group Wikipedia page. I would like to point out that the page has quite a lot of outdated/ false information on it. Probably the most egregious error is in the page's introduction section, something that I have already pointed out on the talk page:

The second paragraph of the introduction states, "The group is headed by the Pakistani media mogul Hameed Haroon, its current CEO. His son, Masood Hameed Haroon, was found dead in his car by the police in Karachi in 2015." This is erroneous on two counts:

1) The person found dead by police in Karachi in 2015 was Masood Hamid (not Masood Hameed Haroon, as the article states).

2) Masood Hamid was a Director at the Dawn Media Group at the time of his death, but he was not related to the CEO, Hameed Haroon. The article states that he was Hameed Haroon's son, which is false.

More information on the demise of Masood Hamid, and his role in the Dawn Media Group, can be found here: https://www.dawn.com/news/1176553

I would be grateful if this could be corrected. It has been online for at least six months and is a demonstrable falsehood. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.163.104.235 (talk) 06:22, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

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I realize I should have been more cognizant of my own edit warring while reporting an IP for it. I will make sure to not abuse the revert in the future like this. I also did not realize I violated 3RR as I thought it was violated when you made "more" than three reverts. I will take note of this as well. I do not plan to engage in any edit wars on the problematic article. Please consider my unblock request as it is the first transgression I have made and do not want to do this again.Gotitbro (talk) 17:12, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

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I count four reverts: one, two, three, four. El_C 21:24, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

@El C: I absolutely did not realize that and do not want to engage as such further. Please do consider the rest of what I've written in the unblock request as well. Thank you. Gotitbro (talk) 02:12, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

Disambiguation links

Please stop linking to disambiguation pages. The first couple of times you did it could be regarded as understandable mistakes, but after the number of times you have received notifications about it, continuing to do the same is serious carelessness. JBW (talk) Formerly known as JamesBWatson 21:16, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

@JBW: I am not sure I understand. I don't remember leaving any disamb links any time soon. Maybe you mistook me for someone else. Gotitbro (talk) 02:18, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

When you get a notification like User talk:Gotitbro#Disambiguation link notification for October 6, go back and check your edit - it means you have a wikilink to a disambiguation page. Even if it's unintentional (reverting a problematic edit), you should still fix it. It may be easier if you change your preferences. Lessee... In preferences, under "gadgets" down the page to "Appearance", about 5th from the bottom of that section, you can see "Display links to disambiguation pages in orange". Check that, then go back to the Assam page and see the orange link to Nepali that shows up under the Assam#Education section. Regards, Tarl N. (discuss) 03:42, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

Postscript - it's been fixed since, but it shows up when looking at the diff. Tarl N. (discuss) 03:45, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

@Tarl N.: Oh, I see thanks for that. Not sure why I would need to be specifically objected about that @JBW: though, I am only human and oversight can occur. Most of the times I have fixed the disamb links (after being notified) anyway. Gotitbro (talk) 04:33, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

You should not be correcting disambiguation links "after being notified": you should not create disambiguation links in the first place. Notifications about disambiguation links are mainly for new editors who don't yet know about them, but you have received bot notifications about them 10 times, beginning in May 2018, so you clearly know about them. It's perfectly simple: never add a link to an article unless you know what you are linking to, and if you know it's a disambiguation page then don't link to it. JBW (talk) Formerly known as JamesBWatson 16:15, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

@JBW: Alright, I'll keep that in mind. I didn't realize the function of the notifications, thanks for letting me know. Gotitbro (talk) 16:18, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

WP APO

Sorry, I realise I might not have been explicit enough. Articles about personal names (which frequently list people with the name) are not disambiguation pages, but anthroponymy pages (the corresponding wikiproject is WP:APO). Anthroponymy pages serve a different set of purposes and follow different style guidelines compared with dab pages. – Uanfala (talk) 15:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

@Uanfala: As I said the scripts are not doing any good on the name list page. While WP:INDICSCRIPTS policy may not exactly apple to such a page, the point about script cluttering,which eventually happens, stands. Hence, the I see it best to rmeove the scripts since other pages on Indian names don't have them as well. Gotitbro (talk) 15:29, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Articles about topics associated with a language other than English typically have the name of that topic in the relevant languages, see MOS:FORLANG. This is especially relevant for anthroponymy articles, as these are primarily articles about words, so it's rather odd to hear that including the spellings of those words "does not do any good". Any name article that's not just a single sentence will typically have them (see a random sample: Irina, Ahmed, Sunil). And frankly, for all those years, this is the first time I'm seeing someone object to their use. If you still disagree with their inclusion, I urge you to propose your view at WT:APO. Thanks! – Uanfala (talk) 15:38, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

@Uanfala: I was just acting in good faith and removing the scripts which I believed were unnecessary as the name isn't specific to the scripts/languages added (moving us into script cluttering, see point above) and I still don't see their purpose, the better to thing to do would be just add a pronunciation or transliteration. Gotitbro (talk) 15:48, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Well, there was a transliteration there, but you removed that as well. Yes, Devanagari isn't the only script that is relevant to the name, but it's the de facto standard for names of Sanskrit origin, and it's the most widespread of Indic scripts, and so should be comprehensible to a large segment of wikipedia's audience (which probably includes a lot of people who aren't familiar with the transliteration schemes in use). 15:54, 8 November 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uanfala (talk • contribs)

@Uanfala: I have tried to better use the script for Sanskrit, see edit. You are right about the Sanskrit Devanagari script use, but then the use should be made explicit, the problem arises when specific modern languages are added, Hindi/Urdu etc. (leading to the script cluttering issue). Gotitbro (talk) 16:14, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

kalapani territory

Hello Gotitbro, I am here to discuss you about the revert you made in Kalapani territory. In the revert you made is baised ehich is against wikipedia's policy. So, before doing edit war discuss about it in the talk page.Rawal Bishal (talk) 04:09, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

@Rawal Bishal: Please do the relevant WP policies, such as WP:POVPUSH before making such egregious comments on User Talk pages. The version I restored was a stable you reverted it without any relevant reason reading POV material to the article. Gotitbro (talk) 04:12, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

   You are welcome to edit in this article but before doing anything you should have references and evidences and you should write the reason why you did it. If you are doing a big edit then describe it in the talk page.Rawal Bishal (talk) 04:17, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

You clearly don't know what is and isn't allowed on Wikipedia, please go read the WP:Five Pillars and specifically WP:NEUTRALITY. Also, I have not added anything to the article I have only reverted WP:POV edits made by you. Gotitbro (talk) 04:20, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Hira Devi Waiba

Hi Gotitbro, the changes you made onHira Devi Waiba and Bipul Chettri is not valid. You have removed category 'Nepalese Folk singer' and everything relating to 'Nepali' and 'Nepalese'. Let me make you aware that there are 2,926,168 Nepali people (Indian Nepali citizens) living and citizens of sovereign India and this populous is referred to as 'Nepalese' too. 'Nepali' 'Nepalese' is not just a citizen of the country Nepal. It is also a language and prefix to other expressions i.e. Nepali song, Nepali movie, Neplai clothes, Nepali food etc. Not all of these have to originate from the country Nepal. To seal the argument further it is not necessary anyone singing an English song has to be from England. One can sing an English song can be categorized as 'English language singer'. Thanks. Tabletop123 (talk) 15:08, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

@Tabletop123: The categories you are mentioning are for the citizens/nationals of Nepal just because someone speaks the Nepali language does not make them a Nepali/Nepalese citizen. There are other relevant categories for that, like Category:Nepali-language singers, Category:Nepali-language poets, you should use them rather than the ones for Nepali citizens. Gotitbro (talk) 15:13, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

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Vandalizing?

How Tf is stating the ethnicity of the people who died vandalism. That crowd was more than 95% Punjabi. What justification is there for calling them Indian? Explain it to me. AnonymousFixer (talk) 07:33, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

@AnonymousFixer: No WP:RS on the subject lists the dead ethnically, you are just WP:POVPUSHING here. Moreover, your edit summaries which state the term Indian as derogatory is simply vandalism. And keep your language WP:CIVIL on Wikipedia. Gotitbro (talk) 08:59, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

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@Kthxbay: Do you even check what you're reverting? I was clearly undoing vandalism by an IP who added "Indian" to the lead. Do not blindly revert anything and then post non-sensical warning templates on user talk pages. Gotitbro (talk) 20:49, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

@Gotitbro: Oh I just checked. Regret this.Kthxbay (talk) 20:51, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

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Samosa

Hi, I see that you just reverted an edit from back May in Samosa, but I don't understand why. You didn't leave an edit summary. The edit looks ok to me, it doesn't look like vandalism. Could you please explain the problem? Thanks. --IamNotU (talk) 08:05, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

@IamNotU: Just reverting disruptive edits by a block evading IP hopper. The cat isn't correct as well the cuisine is not specific or even inherent to the Muhajir community of Pakistan (migrants from India at the time of partition). Gotitbro (talk) 08:09, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Grid plan

Hi - I, too, am confused about your revert to Grid plan. The info looks well-sourced (haven't checked when it was added, but there have been quite a few edits since). There was some interference in that section by 167.217.31.60 (now blocked), but that was reverted soon afterwards. Can you please ping me with a reply to this? Laterthanyouthink (talk) 01:59, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

@Laterthanyouthink: The original para referred to the ancient cities of the Indus Valley Civilization (Mohenjo-daro, Harappa) which was later edited to insert cities of an entirely different region and quite later time period [which should not have been on the top of the History section at all]. This was then laced over by a Pakistani POV [unneeded mention of Pakistan, then the addition of the modern city of Islamabad to the section]. Hence, I removed it. Gotitbro (talk) 02:43, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

>haven't checked when it was added

I linked the original POV edit by the IP in my edit summary by the way. Gotitbro (talk) 02:46, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, I didn't notice the link to the original edit. There does seem to be something worth retaining there though, without mentioning Pakistan and with a decent citation. I might just restore that bit. Thanks for getting back to me. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 03:03, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Unexplained removal

Please stop vandalising sourced information the excuse of blocked users only works for pov or vandalised content your clearly upset with Pakistan being mentioned in ancient terms in distillation but this is not India its Wikipedia where sources matter not blind nationalism which you maybe used to. 31.205.18.37 (talk) 17:57, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

@31.205.18.37: We are supposed to work with each other but if you make personal attacks and allegations I obviously would not be able to work with you. Firstly you do not make personal remarks on users as you clearly did above (read WP:PERSONALATTACKS). Secondly, I undid that edit as it was made by a problematic IP who was blocked, if you had politely explained that the particular edit is fine I most likely would not have reverted you but your personal attacks made me think that your edits were in WP:BADFAITH. Lastly my edit summaries are "generic" because that's what they are supposed to be [simple and straightforward] (see WP:EDIT SUMMARY) and when I'm reverting problematic editors I clearly link to their edits (most of the edits where you have made allegations against me are reverts to such editors).

This is what happened in the Ladakh article where the Category:Territorial disputes of Pakistan was ridiculously added to places which have no disputes by an IP (you even quite incorrectly reverted me and restored the vandalism by the IP in some of these). I have myself re-added the category to Ladakh (see discussion below). Regarding the distillation article I have no intention of further engaging there, if your conduct was polite I wouldn't have reverted you in the first place. And with regards to the Nagaland article you are reinserting to the lead an edit by a user who mass added lines to UNPO [its not the UN], an organization which has no bearing, these lines were also added to Sindh and Balochistan and were also rightly removed. I hope you an see why this isn't an acceptable line in the lead or anywhere in such articles.

And what you were/are doing following my edits everywhere and without heed reverting them constitutes WP:WIKIHOUNDING, i.e. harassment of users. If you tone down your personal attacks and rhetoric and stop hounding me then maybe we can get somewhere otherwise this is impossible. Gotitbro (talk) 21:40, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Disputed category Jammu and Kashmir

You seem to be a bit confused maybe but the entire wolrd recognises Jammu and Kashmir disputed territory but you deleted the category stating disputed by Pakistan why is that? Then you moan about others adding categories you did the same to Ladakh. I will make sure experianced editors are made aware of your blatantly biased editing regarding Pakistan 31.205.18.37 (talk) 18:03, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

@31.205.18.37: What edit are you edit even talking about, point me to it rather than making baseless threats about reporting me. Your personal attacks on me don't already put you in a great place at all. Gotitbro (talk) 18:08, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

The Jammu and Kashmir article pretending you dont remember ? You removed the category which states its Pakistans territorial disputes 31.205.18.37 (talk) 18:14, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

That's enough, IP. Either cite the diff or go do something else. El_C 18:16, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

@31.205.18.37: I am waiting for the specific edit. Gotitbro (talk) 18:19, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

[[2]] and [[3]] clearly pov pushing he also removes any mention of South Asia as in India that term is regarded as Anti national. Please explain your above edits now. 31.205.18.37 (talk) 18:25, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

@31.205.18.37: I was just reverting edits by a vandal IP have not made further edits after that same with my other edits (all of which link to the edit I am undoing). And stop projecting your biases on me if you continue with your labels and personal attacks, I will have to report you. Gotitbro (talk) 18:30, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

So you did make those edits and claied you didnt? Your excuse or removing pov etc makes no sense on most of your edits which vandal ip was it? That category has been there for a long time but you deleted it based on fictious vandal ip claims this is the bias I am talking about. Gilgit Baltistan has this category and so should Jammu and Kashmir along with Ladakh. 31.205.18.37 (talk) 18:38, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Stop your vendetta against me I have clearly linked the original edit made by the vandal IP in my edit summary, the same vandal IP whose nonsensical edits you restored in some of your edits without any reason. Ofcourse I don't remember every I made escpecially regarding vandalisms. Anyway I am not going to continue with these discussion anymore as you clearly have something to take out against me and I want nothing of that. Gotitbro (talk) 18:43, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

I have nothing against you personally just your pov edits on certain articles the diffs I provided demonstrate that explicitly again the vandalism excuse means nothing as Gilgit-Baltistan also has a catgeory mentioning Indian territorial disputes. 31.205.18.37 (talk) 18:49, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

IP, Gotitbro is not a 'nationalist' editor. He is a perfectly fine editor. This is possibly some misunderstanding.

Gotitbro, let us agree that all the top-level political units will get listed as "disputes" of both the countries. That would include Jammu and Kashmir (union territory) and Ladakh, but not Aksai Chin because it is not clear if Pakistan claims Aksai Chin. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 19:06, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

@Kautilya3: I only made that edit on Ladakh as I was just reverting vandalisms by an IP, who BTW was adding "Territorial disputes of Pakistan" to places such as Delhi and what not. This is what prompted me to undo the edit than anything else. Regarding the second edit linked by @31.205.18.37: that was for a category page and I don't think we have added territorial dispute cats to any of them which wouldn't make sense anyway. Gotitbro (talk) 19:14, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

The IP is saying, Gilgit-Baltistan is listed in Category:Territorial disputes of India. Why isn't Ladakh being listed in Category:Territorial disputes of Pakistan? I am saying we should list it. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 19:48, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

I agree with you regarding the second diff. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 19:51, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

@Kautilya3: Done. As I said the only reason I removed it was was while reverting mass vandalism by an IP. Gotitbro (talk) 19:53, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Princely States

Hello sir, please see the article on the British Raj, Princely states were not considered apart of British India. Please revert your edits Hammad.511234 (talk) 07:19, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

@Hammad.511234: Wikipedia articles are not a source and I've already told you that princely states are considered a part of British India on Wikipedia. You are editing against consensus and have already been notified about ARBIPA sanctions on India/Pakistan articles. Gotitbro (talk) 07:23, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

You just said wikipedia articles are not a source... The claim on the wikipedia article is sourced. Hammad.511234 (talk) 07:26, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

@Hammad.511234: As I've that article does not matter nor what the sources therein say. We treat princely states as part of British India on Wikipedia and that is reflected in infoboxes. Your removals have no WP:CONSENSUS and you shouldn't proceed further as such. Gotitbro (talk) 07:44, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

@Gotitbro: Princely states were associated with British India, that's for sure, but that doesn't make them legally or historically apart of it. If princely states are apart of British India as per Wikipedia consensus, then why are you changing people's places of birth to "British India," entirely. Why not leave it as "Srinagar, Kashmir" etc. Point is, consensus doesn't change facts backed up with sources, and can be argued and changed. Hammad.511234 (talk) 07:53, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

@Hammad.511234: That is vague and what your doing is too. Princely states did not exist independently and that is what's shown not just for the British Empire but other states that existed under various previous empires (Mughal's etc.) in infoboxes. Your facts are your POV and clearly aren't going consensus that has existed for long. Gotitbro (talk) 08:03, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

@Gotitbro: Princely states were semi independent, their capital was not Delhi, like British India's was, they did not use the same currency or postal service etc. And by definition as mentioned on the British Raj page, were not legally considered apart of British India Hammad.511234 (talk) 08:06, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!

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Meena Kumari

With due respect sir/madam, I would love to know the reason for this change on this particular page. The fact regarding her name has been clear from a much longer time. The addition of the word "Bux" is actually wrong. Unmarried Muslim women, either use Bano or Banu and not their father's surname. They usually use the surname of their husband after their marriage. I have been extensively editing her page from more than two years and have looked on for various sources. I would request you to look into this matter at the earliest. [[[User:Vrishchik|Vrishchik]] (talk) 02:59, 14 January 2020 (UTC)]

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Made in China

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Jingoism on multiple articles

Hello, I connected with User:BD2412, but you might be familiar with these topics as well. On Sorshe Ilish, this jingoistic editor for Bangladesh again changed the place of origin to Bangladesh, instead of Bengal. This was even stated by admin User:Huon here in talk. It is clearly a Bengali dish, not just Bangladeshi, however, this user Za-ari-masen on multiple article is changing Bengali dishes to Bangladeshi dishes. Others are Chomchom, Bakarkhani, as well as articles such as Kazi Nazrul Islam and Gauḍa (city), which are not justified. These reversals are just Bangladeshi jingoism by this user. All these are shared by both Bangladesh and India, not solely Bangladesh. As noted on the talk page, but the user Za-ari-masen comes back and changes it back to Bangladesh only, and removes all reference to India or even Pakistan. On Bakarkhani, the main source mentions Bengal, Awadh and Kashmir as sources for the dish, instead the user Za-ari-masen put Bangladesh as the sole origin of the dish, which is not true. Please help from preventing this type of jingoism in Wikipedia on multiple articles. (2600:1001:B003:5C82:61D3:209D:CA6E:5364 (talk) 06:14, 9 February 2020 (UTC))

I also suspect these IPs which they use as proxy to battle also belongs to user Za-ari-masen, same location: this, this, and this. All are similar editing styles, they use the IPs to battle, later come in with the user ID to play a neutral spectator to get their way. (2600:1001:B003:5C82:61D3:209D:CA6E:5364 (talk) 08:37, 9 February 2020 (UTC))

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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Bakarkhani; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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I realize I should not have engaged in edit warring and engaged in discussion with other users. It was not my intention to edit war and I had not realized violating 3RR. I do not wish to engage in this topic area at all. If you want I'll proceed under a topic ban but please let me engage in other areas of the wiki. Thank you.

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You are only partially blocked. El_C 05:03, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Sorry

Just wanted to reiterate my apology. I made you run around for naught and that's on me. Not my best moment. I appreciate your patience throughout this. Best, El_C 06:30, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

@El C: I provided my findings on Bakarkhani, please see the sources, the user Za-ari-masen has been falsifying everything. Times of India on Bakarkhani nor Banglapedia on Bakarkhani says nothing on the origin being Dhaka or Bangladesh or East Bengal. I explained here on Talk:Bakarkhani. (96.240.28.30 (talk) 18:52, 10 February 2020 (UTC))

Pala empire

Can you keep an eye of Pala empire, this user is adding modern Bangladeshi architecture and modern Sculpture of Bangladesh to an ancient article like Pala empire. Modern nation state or Bangladesh did not exist then. These additions can be seen here. I reversed it. Pinging Fylindfotberserk to also request to keep an eye out. 2600:1001:B010:331C:D1E3:1DF8:F527:BD54 (talk) 13:52, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

User:Khondoker Jobair

Hello, you think this IP is same as User:Khondoker Jobair and User:Great Hero32? I checked their editing history, both IPs and those accounts, same type of poor English and grammar as well as editing articles like Sandesh (confectionery) (where I found the connection), chomchom, and an obscure article like Muktagachhar monda. 2600:1001:B008:E2ED:3048:E150:7088:8D8D (talk) 00:27, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Muhajir people

Could you clarify which IP's edit you are undoing? I was undoing a pile of changes (and re-changes) from many IPs in the past month that replaced sourced content with citation-needed content. So I took it back to what seems to have been stable for many months prior to that. Are you just concerned about the wording of the first sentence? DMacks (talk) 06:23, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

@DMacks: I actually linked the IP edit in my edit summary. Here is the diff for the IP. Yes, I was reverting the lead change by IP. Gotitbro (talk) 06:33, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Grr...that link wasn't distinctly colored enough on my crappy monitor, sorry for overlooking! I re/undid all the number changes "back to stable" (as my previous edit did) but retained your change to that lede sentence. DMacks (talk) 06:51, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

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Reporters Without Borders (RSF)

Hi GotitBro. I'm updating the Reporters Without Borders page to more accurately reflect their current work. Thanks for your interest - and for noting some unexplained revisions. I assure you they are all legitimate, and I will be adding fuller explanations as I go on, but I may need to undo your reversion - or could you possibly do that yourself? Thank you! --89up (talk) 13:55, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

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Khatri

Check this edit. Someone re added it. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:52, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

Box Office India budgets

Hi there, re: this edit, Box Office India is not a good source for film budgets, because they include print and advertising costs into their figures, which is not done in any other film industry. Budget comprises the cost to produce the film, not to market it. So it should be avoided, and flagged as in need of updating. Also "passing mention" would not typically be a valid justification for removing a published figure, and in most cases if multiple sites have different opinions, we should present the content in the form of a range, not decide on our own what the "Truth" with a capital T is. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:27, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb: I actually knew that and deliberately used the BOI source because if that is indicating a lower budget (despite mktng, promo costs) than a passing mention in India Today, then the cost is definitely not 100 cr. I have tagged the source, should have done that earlier. Hope someone can find a better source for the exact budget. Gotitbro (talk) 17:36, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. There is a third possibility: That India Today is correct, and that BOI's figure is actually low for some other reason. It wouldn't be awful to present both figures as a range, then include an embedded note that explains the discrepancy, the the effect of Box Office India includes estimated print and advertising costs into its budget estimates, whereas most authorities globally consider budget to be the straight cost of producing the film. So figures by BOI and India Today could be higher than the actual production budget. However, I'll let you decide whether that should be done or not. I'm yielding on the matter. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:49, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb: I would've done that but the India Today source is not good, some source which discusses the budget a bit would've been better. Gotitbro (talk) 17:59, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

The community has not deemed India Today to be a problem. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:50, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb: I know, I meant that particular article does not appear good enough to cite as it barely mentions the budget in passing. Gotitbro (talk) 18:54, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Mahaganapati

Hi, do you think the Kannada script is required besides the Sanskrit one in Mahaganapati article? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:48, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

No, local scripts are not acceptable even on religious articles in India. The Devanagari script [being the standard] for Sanskrit and its {{IAST}} transliteration are used. Gotitbro (talk) 17:57, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: Forgot to ping. Gotitbro (talk) 18:13, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, I did that. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:24, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

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G5

Hi, G5 only applies to articles created by a sockpuppet of a blocked editor as per WP:CSD, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 17:16, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Maybe I clearly *know nothing. But throwing ornamental words at me is not going to support your argument . Bodhiupasaka (talk) 07:52, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Citing WP:CASTE in PROD rationales

When you propose caste articles for deletion due to notability, as you did at Bharat clan, you refer to WP:CASTE, which is a general sanctions subpage. It's not exactly clear why you refer there when it contains no notability-related information. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 16:43, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing the error out, I have mentioned the relevant guidelines in the PROD now. I probably cited WP:CASTE as too many irrelevant/non-existent caste groups have been created/POVPUSHED that fall under the sanctions, sorry for the oversight. Gotitbro (talk) 16:52, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

@LaundryPizza03: forgot to ping. Gotitbro (talk) 16:53, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

User:Sitush/CasteSources has useful information about caste-related sources, though not notability. Point there instead. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 17:28, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

John Brown

Please explain why you removed Category:Proposed countries. He was carrying thousands of copies of a Provisional constitution (John Brown). deisenbe (talk) 16:01, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

@Deisenbe: Oh, I didn't appear to find this while going through the article. Though the category would be more appropriate for the article you have linked than in the bio of John Brown. Gotitbro (talk) 16:22, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Pali article

What does an image venerating Lord Vishnu in Sanskrit language have to do with the Pali Language article ? Bodhiupasaka (talk) 07:29, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Sanskrit and Pali comparisons are replete in scholarly sources which the image was specifically created to illustrate. Your replacement with a singular script is unbecoming. Gotitbro (talk) 07:35, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Then why not keep an image of Tamil or Kannada inscriptions of Sanskrit in the Sanskrit article ? Bodhiupasaka (talk) 07:42, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

@Bodhiupasaka: I have already explained the same thing to you repeatedly and am not going to do it again, Devanagari is the standard script for Sanskrit with Latin for Pali. If you continue your disruptive editing by adding Sinhala script to Pali pages and removing any and all mentions of Sanskrit from related pages you are going to be taken to WP:ANI. Gotitbro (talk) 07:51, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Then why did you allow Sanskrit transliteration to persist for the Pali equivalent term in the Sangha article. Just check right now on the infobox of the article. Bodhiupasaka (talk) 07:57, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

That is a Pali transliteration, you clearly no nothing about Sanskrit and Pali transliterations/etymologies, so please do not disrupt multiple articles with senseless diatribes. WP:COMPETENCE is required, go read the relevant Wikipedia policies and do not waste the time of multiple experienced users. Gotitbro (talk) 08:04, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Kalki

In Agni Purana,Bhagavata Purana,Brahma Purana,Garuda Purana,Linga Purana,Matsya Purana,Naradiya Purana,Padma Purana,Shiva Purana,Skanda Purana,Varaha Purana,Kalki Purana's kalki is mention as Vishnu avatar why you remove this?--Ritij Paudel (talk) 07:31, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Only the most relevant texts should be mentioned rather than a myriad sideline ones. Gotitbro (talk) 07:35, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Avatar article

It is not clear to people that Buddhism founder, Gautama Buddha is Vishnu avatar you have to mention it also. --Ritij Paudel (talk) 07:58, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Śakti Maharṣi

There is no WP:CITE for Sage Sanskriti is son of Sakti Maharsi. And Why you delete his story, and his family detail.--Ritij Paudel (talk) 09:13, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

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@Ritij Paudel: Do not cite policies which you yourself have not read. You are adding clearly WP:POVPUSH poorly sourced material to articles despite being warned by multiple users. Gotitbro (talk) 09:19, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Do you have any source that said Sage Sanskriti is son of Sakti Maharsi. Infact, the sage Sanskriti, do not have any source.And the story I written is taken from wikipedia Kalmashapada--Ritij Paudel (talk) 09:28, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Parashara article

In article it is written Sakti Maharsi is father of Rishi Parashara ji, and with Satyavati, he fathered son Vyas.--Ritij Paudel (talk) 09:37, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Shor Sharaba

Hello Gotitbro. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Shor Sharaba, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not created by a banned user, or the page does not violate the user's ban. Thank you. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 00:20, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

@DeltaQuad: Can you please clarify that? The page was clearly created by a sockpuppet: User:User:Abbas45Abdul. Gotitbro (talk) 00:24, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

The master, Sunny Saab was not blocked at the time of the creation, and they aren't blocked now, they only got a week. Seems vindictive to delete the contributions of a user who isn't blocked, even if they were socking at some point. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 00:31, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Unexplained revert

Hi, you reverted me here, without explaining why and although there was absolutely nothing wrong with my edits. Please kindly do not revert users on sight, especially when their edits were useful. And, with all due respect, it would be much appreciated if you use edit summaries and explain your reversions, per WP:REVEXP. Thank you. AshMusique (talk) 14:03, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

@AshMusique: Sorry for that. Was reverting a disruptive IP in multiple articles and your edits got caught in that. Gotitbro (talk) 14:14, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Another unexplained revert

Concerning your unexplained revert here. I added citation needed and contradict-inline tags since the Fashion One article says - Fashion One is a 24-hour New York City-based television network...The Fashion One Channel was officially launched in New York City on April 8, 2010. Source for claim in Bigfoot Entertainment article that says Hong Kong can not be verified due to permanent dead link. It can't be both cities, unless you can find a source that clarifies your reasoning for the reversion. Isaidnoway (talk) 14:24, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

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Sunny Leone

Please come to a consensus on the article talk page before inserting WP:ETHNICITY into her lead sentence. Please do not edit war over this. Morbidthoughts (talk) 01:15, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Splitting proposal at Charding Nullah

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It's getting worse again

FYI, I'm not sure if it is actually Sami, but an IP is adding patent nonsense to Hindustani related articles, this time even spreading their POV to Braj Bhasa and Awadhi language. It's the typical whack-a-mole game, but their last edits are too crazy even for Sami standards. –Austronesier (talk) 18:53, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

@Austronesier: This is typical sami stuff. Blatant Urdu POVPUSH, poor English, incessant edits (without undos). If you have edits just be sure that any IP editing from Karachi doing blatant Urdu POV is most likely him. Also see the IP ranges listed at the WP:LTA/SAMI page. Gotitbro (talk) 00:40, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

@Austronesier: I would like to clarify that sami's edits are not limited to Hindustani but the whole gamut of Indo-Aryan langs specifically Central Indo-Aryan languages and anything to do with Urdu, in the linguistic arena at least. He also targets India-Pakistan related articles (conflicts, disputes etc.) and any television channel/series/film aired in Pakistan (Pakistani, Turkish, Indian etc.); all of these with a Pakistani/Urdu POVPUSH. It's easy to identify his edits once you are familiar with the pattern, i.e., Urdu/Pakistan POVPUSH, rarely reverts (undos) but reverts by reinserting (editing) his previous edits [so as not to notify users], canvases users whose edits he think serve his POVPUSH, uses irregular (poor) English and blatantly fakes identities (Indian, Thai and what not) to get his edits past users and most of the IPs used belong to PTCL and geolocate to Karachi. I also recommend that you add any IP you suspect (whose range isn't already there) to the LTA page at Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Muhammad Samiuddin Qazi. Gotitbro (talk) 03:00, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Some of the relevant pages are semi-PPed for three months now, but I wonder how many other pages we will have to add then. As it seems, the only way to stop this guy is community alertness; talking about alert fellow editors: do you now what happened to our friend User:Fylindfotberserk? He hasn't edited for 7 weeks now, and his absence leaves a noticeable void. –Austronesier (talk) 13:42, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

@Austronesier: No idea but these are COVID-19 times and he talked about the large spike in vandalisms since the virus hit taking a toll on him; perhaps its related to that. @Uanfala: is also familiar with sami, the sockpuppeteer also frequently targets User:Fowler&fowler with requests et all (such as here) since he seems to have taken a liking to some of Fowler's edits on Urdu related articles. Editors need to be aware that they are dealing with a chronic LTA who sees this as nothing more than a game of whack-a-mole as long as he can get some of edits past by being as disruptive as possible. Gotitbro (talk) 13:56, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

What about this one?[4] Categories, Lab Pe Aati Hai Dua, Hindustani...I think it's a duck. –Austronesier (talk) 19:26, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

@Austronesier: Most definitely him, have filed an SPI, please leave your comments there. It seems like the sockmaster has been more proactive ever since the pandemic and on pages which have lost protection, he also has gotten some new IP provider to continue his disruptions. Can you ask for page protections on pages which have had severe disruptions such as the recent Hindi-Urdu ones? And also ask for IP range blocks whenever you see a large amount of disruption rom them. Thanks. Gotitbro (talk) 20:09, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Nepalese

Moved to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Nepal § Nepalese

I noticed that you reverted my edits at Manisha Koirala. In that edit, I changed the word Neplaese to Nepali. I believe it should be Nepali. You said Nepalese is the standard term on enwiki, can you direct me to a discussion that led to this change (as being the standard term).

Prakash Sharan Mahat, former minister for foreign affairs of Nepal once said People who live in Nepal, we call them Nepali ... Let us start saying Nepali in English as well, instead of saying Nepalese [5] Here are few sources [6] Martin Chautari also uses Nepali [7] Even NRN USA uses Nepali. [8] [9] ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSA^talk 12:00, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

@CAPTAIN MEDUSA: "Nepali" is a recent trend affected by the Indo-Aryan demonym usage for Nepal (Nepali is more generally used for the language in English). Nepalese has been the standard adjective/demonym in English and on this Wikipedia since the beginning as is evident by the categories on the page itself. And I don't see a reason why this or any other page should be an exception to that. Gotitbro (talk) 12:15, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

I strongly disagree with this. Even the The Kathmandu Post has been using Nepali for decades. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSA^talk 12:28, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

@CAPTAIN MEDUSA: This the current standard adjective form for Nepal here on enwiki and its precedent is evident by the myriad cats and titles related to it. You can disagree but the consensus for your change is not there. Gotitbro (talk) 12:36, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

OK! there might "not" be consensus. Let's talk about Koirala. The Media usage: Republica Nepali actress Manisha Koirala [10], The Rising Nepal Manisha Koirala is getting huge support from Nepali people, A book students in Indore disrupted the screening of a movie by the Nepali Bollywood actress Manisha Koirala [11] Outlook Manisha will live in Nepal and will mostly devote time to Nepali films.

Using Google: If you search for Manisha Koirala "Nepali actress", it bring 189,000 results. Manisha Koirala "Nepalese actress" brings 5,600 results. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSA^talk 13:08, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

You are missing the point, leads use standard terminology and this article is not an exception to that; WP:GOOGLEHITS hardly matter here. Gotitbro (talk) 13:20, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

That is a different matter. This is not about AfD. The numbers matter because it shows that Nepali is widely used. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSA^talk 13:30, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Sidenote: Even the Wikipedia article about the people refers to them as "Nepalis" not Nepalese. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSA^talk 14:04, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

I specifically didn't refer to that article as it has been the subject of multiple edit wars, disputes and moves. Changing of a demonym/adjective would require a sitewide consensus. Gotitbro (talk) 14:20, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Tulsi Bhagat, Usedtobecool, Biplab Anand, Coolboi567, Learnerktm: Your thoughts? ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSA^talk 14:56, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

@CAPTAIN MEDUSA: I really don't think my userpage is an appropriate venue for this discussion. A category rename request/discussion for Nepal related cats at WP:CFD and a discussion for titles related to Nepal (both of which use Nepalese) at Talk:Nepal or a similar forum that involves more users is definitely better. Would lastly like to add that I was only following precedent and the standard form here in my revert and do not have a strong opinion either way. Nepali/Nepalese are used interchangebaly, the latter more so in international pubs and obviously here on the enwiki. Gotitbro (talk) 15:21, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

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I just noticed you addition on MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist#biofamous.com. Seeing his reply (I assume there is only one guy working there), you have created some panic. Look likes their revenue plan is falling apart when blocked for spamming. Way to go! And thanks for noticing it! The Banner talk 12:14, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

@The Banner: Yeah it was very sneaky, the spam links were added as if genuine refs. I wouldn't even have noticed the spam refs if the user didn't become active again after nearly two years. And its funny that the spammer is now acting as his own employer and saying that Wikipedia referenced from his website when the opposite is true. Hope the site is blocked here soon. Gotitbro (talk) 12:32, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

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Why are you removing language en masse?

Hi there, why are you removing language descriptions en masse from articles?[12][13][14][15]? It seems to me that identifying a film's native language is a pretty fundamental aspect to answering the Five Ws, especially for films from a nation where language cannot be assumed. If I'm missing someting, please fill me in. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:20, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb: I was reverting the edits of a user who had added lang descriptors to leads simultaneously without any checks. Such as where the language is ambiguous Hindi-Urdu/Hindustani (Sholay, Mother India) it is better kept off the lead or where the language is mentioned multiple times in the lead (Devdas) or where there are multiple languages in a film (Guzaarish, Kabhi Alvida Naa Kehna) etc. I assumed the GA/FA versions had gone through enough copyedits/checks to be the better ledes so I restored them where the article was under such a label. In Veer-Zaara, multiple languages were listed at different databases (such as here) so I thought it best to restore the GA lede. I might have gone overboard with reverting all additions by the user to GAs/FAs. Gotitbro (talk) 21:37, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Hey mate, I doubt if there's any ambiguity with regard to Jab Tak Hai Jaan, Angneepath, Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara, Andhadhun, Om Shanti Om, Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge, What's Your Raashee?, and Dil Dhadakne Do. Besides I'm also unaware of policy which forbids improving GA and FAs.

In fact, if you see FA versions of Mother India and Sholay, they describe the film as "1957 Hindi epic melodrama film" and "1975 action-adventure Hindi film" respectively. It was indeed poorly presented if you ask me. Reasons being:

1. Lead fails to describe one of the nationality of the film, which is one of the crucial parameters. In the absence of compound adjective "-language", its also unclear what Hindi is.
2. In Sholay, Hindi was not blue-linked; while in Mother India, Hindi was pipe-linked to Bollywood.

If we were to "restore them where the article was under such a label" as you've suggested, its as good as downgrading the article.

Even if the language is ambiguous at times, we should ponder over how to logically present the information, instead of simply evading it.

If a user who made these edits is singularly identified, it would have been advisable to seek clarification on the article's talk page or the user's talk page or at least intimate them before going for mass reverts. In any case, I don't mind having a discussion in it. Thanks and Regards -- Ab207 (talk) 06:32, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

@Ab207: Sorry for not involving you here. I think we should avoid language in the lead where there are multiple langs listed or specially where the lang is ambiguous, the infobox suffices, (such as where the films are not explicitly filmed/released in Hindustani and are released in Hindi [avoiding the whole Hindi-Urdu controversy in the lead is best here]), feel free to revert my edits where these conflicts do not occur (where I might have went overboard). Gotitbro (talk) 06:43, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying. At this point, I have nothing to say on Hindi-Urdu films because its inconclusively discussed a zillion times already but I believe its important to indicate the primary language in the lead. Cyphoidbomb may help us in pointing out if there's any past consensus on this.

Regarding Guzaarish, Kabhi Alvida Naa Kehna and Veer-Zaara, its clear that main language is Hindi. We don't have to list every language used in the film. -- Ab207 (talk) 07:37, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

@Ab207: A solution for these films might be placing Bollywood in place of the language and adding a note (if necessary) saying something like "The Hindi-language film industry of the larger Indian cinema." Gotitbro (talk) 14:50, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

I don't think using colloquial language is desirable, besides we don't know for certain if the term "Bollywood" was used before 1970s. -- Ab207 (talk) 14:59, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

You are correct, it is not desirable, especially because we write for a global audience and I would think that most people across the world who have heard of Bollywood think it describes all Indian films not just Hindi-language films. We would run into other challenges, because even fewer people would know what Tollywood is, and there are two Kollywoods (Tamil and Nepalese cinema). As I noted above, language is a fundamental aspect of a film's identification, except in nations where we can draw an assumption, like the UK or America. With regard to the argument that we leave it for the infobox, I strongly disagree with that. The infobox is supposed to summarise content found elsewhere in the article, which is also what the lede is supposed to do. Relying on the infobox to communicate information isn't how we normally write articles. If the language of origin is ambiguous or if there are multiple languages, then we wouldn't necessarily need the content in the intro sentence, (the general Wikipedia community doesn't like complex "...is an American-British-French film" structure, so I doubt they'd like complicated language descriptions), but it should be somewhere in the lede. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:10, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb: It seemed to me that Hindustani in infobox was arrived as a compromise, that's why I was bold in adding Hindustani-language for Mother India and Sholay. Then again, we have both Hindi and Urdu in Mughal-e-Azam infobox, when template guideline states pretty clearly that the parameter is reserved for a single language, unless the film shot as multilingual. -- Ab207 (talk) 17:02, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Now I have question, By "Only in rare cases of clearly bilingual or multilingual films", is the guideline referring to films where there is an excessive use of more than one language? or a Multiple-language version. Obviously, Inglourious Basterds listing German, English and French is not the same as Saaho listing Hindi, Tamil and Telugu. -- Ab207 (talk) 18:48, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Continuing disambiguation links

Nine months ago you were asked to stop linking to disambiguation pages, but you are still doing so. What is more, in several recent cases you have not even gone back to correct the mistake after being informed of it. Making the links and then correcting them when informed would be a very poor second best to not making the links in the first place, but making them and then leaving them after being warned is totally unacceptable. Blocking an editor from editing for such a simple thing is highly undesirable, but if after being asked to stop you continue to do the same thing, it may be that a block is the only way to get you to take notice. Please never post a wikilink to an article without checking what page it links to, and if it links to a disambiguation page then don't post the link. JBW (talk) 21:50, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

My bad here, would avoid linking unless to an exact page. The visual editor is indeed better for such cases. Gotitbro (talk) 22:00, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

A goat for you!

For reverting vandalism on Goat article.

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Gunji, Uttarakhand

Hi Gotitbro, I wonder if you can add Gunji, Uttarakhand to your watchlist if you don't have it already? Somebody moved it to Gunji, Sudurpashchim Pradesh this morning and, after I moved it back, it doesn't show on my watch list any more. It is the strangest thing. Anyway, while I try to figure out what is going on, somebody needs to monitor it. It is a standard target for POV-pushing. Thanks. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 13:17, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

@Kautilya3: Seems like a somewhat old account which has started making POVPUSH edits recently, have seen a few of these around since the flare up in May. Moving the page was highly disruptive by the user, should keep an eye on their contributions for further disruptions. Don't see much disruption in the last month except this one, ask for ECP if it continues. Gotitbro (talk) 13:41, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

@Kautilya3: That user has now created Gunji Village, Nepal seems ripe for a POVFORK CSD. Another warning to the user should suffice if they still continue ANI seems the way forward. Gotitbro (talk) 13:57, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion decline

Hello,

I have declined the WP:G5 speedy deletion nomination for Draft:Valmiki Ashram, as the draft was created on the 6th of August and the first block for this user was the 10th of August. Therefore, because this draft was created before the user was blocked, WP:G5 does not apply as, to quote from policy, A page created before the ban or block was imposed or after it was lifted will not qualify under this criterion.

It may certainly be eligible for other criterion, but I'll leave it to you if you want to re-nominate under a different criterion. Thanks and happy editing, Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 22:09, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

@Dreamy Jazz: Can you review the CSD, now that the account has been confirmed to be a sock of an older puppeteer. Gotitbro (talk) 07:25, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Gotitbro, the older account was only blocked today and G5 only applies to pages created when they are blocked. It is important to note that the creation date of accounts is not the date which is used for G5. The important date to bear in mind is the 10th of August which is when the first block for this sock master was given. Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 07:39, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

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Stop undoing my changes

Stop reverting my edits. Your claims of historicity are baseless and irrelevant. The prophecies provide some background/context for Muslim conquests/rule in India. It seems like your reversion of my edits are politically motivated — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krao212 (talk • contribs) 18:25, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

@Krao212: The edits you have restored were added by a chronic Pakistan/Urdu POVPUSH sockpuppeteer (see WP:LTA/SAMI for details) and were reverted per WP:BANREVERT. And I see no reason for them to be in the article as explained in the edit summaries.

Rather than WP:EDITWARRING find WP:CONSENSUS on the Talk page for why the edits of a sock should be restored. And please do not through WP:ASPERSIONS on fellow editors as you did above unless you are looking for a ban. [Please go through the linked guidelines in this reply before proceeding]. Gotitbro (talk) 18:37, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Sorry about my language, I overreacted. With regards to a sockpuppeter adding certain contents, how is that even relevant if the sources themselves are valid? Coz looking at the actual links, the translations of the Hadith are clearly referenced in the bottom left corner. Krao212 (talk) 05:46, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Please don’t edit war

With me at Akshay Kumar. The citations have been in place for a long time with attendant talk page discussion. Take it to the talk page first. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 09:40, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

@Fowler&fowler: The citation date was clearly incorrect not sure why you reinstated that, it was a basic error. Placing the cite just beside the naturalization bit in the lead is problematic as the citation precedes his naturalization in 2011. I don't have a strong opinion on the placement of the cite but at least fix the date, please (that doesn't require any discussion). Gotitbro (talk) 09:44, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

In that case, add any of the inline tags: , ... or somesuch and leave a talk page post. What is the point of a post such as this with no edit summary? Fowler&fowler«Talk» 10:15, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Fowler&fowler, I'm struggling to see your point here: when you come across a simple and obvious citation error you normally fix it straight away, not start a consultation. Do you have any objections to the new placement of the ref? – Uanfala (talk) 10:23, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

You don't make an edit without any explanation in an edit summary, especially not in a page in which random edits are being made and unmade by different people. In those instances an edit summary is not just a common courtesy, it is a must. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 10:37, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Watch

An old friend returns. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 19:17, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Nice work rooting out vandalism. This kitty will help you in your crusade .

Fylindfotberserk (talk) 07:56, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

I came across ths guy before. LOL @ the logic in the edit summary. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 07:07, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi, did you see that? Someone seems to be doing changes like this guy. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 07:05, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: Good catch. That appears to be a different IP vandal who was active between late-last year to early-this year, looks like he is back. Very disruptive and simply a vandal. I have started an ANI thread please add your comments there. Gotitbro (talk) 08:27, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for opening that ANI thread. I believe I came across this one before, in Iqbal's article probably. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:36, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar

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		Thanks for maintaining the integrity of Wikipedia and preventing vandalism. Zakaria1978 ښه راغلاست (talk) 15:07, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

why do you keep merging my pages and reverting my edits

Are you that interested in Meitei topics.The article you reverted now has no valid citating and what really do you know about Puya do you think it is some religious books based on myths..don't be biase give me a chance to prove my claim.If i can't provide reliable sources I won't create such thing..be neutral..You are really vandalising without any reason.Let the one who knows about it write with proper sources.Luwanglinux (talk) 14:41, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

@Luwanglinux: Please see what WP:VANDALISM actually is and learn to read edit summaries. When you removed projects/countries and comments from Talk pages, assigned arbitrary importance ratings to them that is known as vandalism. Your recent spate of edits is clearly ethnic WP:POVPUSH that you are trying to shove across Wikipedia. This is clearly unacceptable, just because you found some references online does not mean you will outstrip Wikipedia guidelines especially the WP:NPOV guideline which is one of its five pillars. Your repeated addition of Kangleipak (which is a non-neutral POV term, we go by WP:COMMONNAME on Wikipedia not what you think is right) and removal of countries from leads/Talk pages is clearly unacceptable. If you disruptively continue like this you are looking at nothing but blocks. Gotitbro (talk) 14:53, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Isn't it too rude to say addition of Kangleipak is ethnic it is one of the oldest native name of the Princely state Manipur (princely state) ,give me a chance to explain.My edits were frequently reverted even if I wrote it with reliable sources,so I tried to protect my new articles from those vandalism..Sorry I wont delete country again but Give us room in India wikipedia too.. your reverting of Puya(Meitei texts) hurts Meitei community because it is not a religious book at all..or Puya neither is a single boook here is the proof.its about a puya Nongsamei Puyawhich write about Muslim settlement during King Khagemba,dude I have knowledge about Puya I am not relying on any source I found Luwanglinux (talk) 15:20, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

@Luwanglinux: Please read the WP:COMMONNAME guideline, we use the most common name in English for things on Wikipedia which in your case would be Manipur, Kangleipak is an obscure and contentious ethnic term so it is not acceptable. Do remember you are editing articles not for yourself but a global readership, so you articles need to conform to that. Removing countries from leads and Talk page projects is straight-up vandalism and will be reverted. Don't remove countries (India) or add POV ethnic terms (Kangleipak), add reliable sources (insidene.com/e-pao.net are not reliable) not your own research or "knowledge" (that is considered Original research hence not acceptable) and you are not going to face much issues. Gotitbro (talk) 15:34, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Ok I will not delete country India again.will you undo the revert on Puya (Meitei texts) since you too now know that Puya is not a religious book, what I provided to you as source is definitely from a journal having international standard not epao.net.Luwanglinux (talk) 15:49, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

@Luwanglinux: Multiple sources consider it a religious text, so I don't see why that should be removed. You can add their generic nature in the article (through reliable sources) but completely removing their religious purpose is not done. Gotitbro (talk) 16:00, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Ahh here comes to square 1 will you trust the unreliable one you said like epao.net or the authentic proof given,As many as 120 puyas were burned are they all religious book?..tagging puya as only religious book is a mockery to puya.of course there are many puyas even fake ones.(I mean not written by Maichou).There are religious puya too like the Sanamahi laihui I will never say such puya are historical book..What I want to prove is Puya is not a single or few books.Any written records by Maichou are termed as Puya even Cheitharol Kumbaba is a puya.Read puya history.Luwanglinux (talk) 16:15, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

@Luwanglinux: What you did was remove an infobox and a navigation template (about religious works) from the article which is disruptive. Add your info but don't remove the templates, and the religious context should be clearly mentioned in the lead as well. Gotitbro (talk) 16:25, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

like I told you tagging it as only religious book is a misleasding one.whoever created that page seems to know little about puya.Ok let that puya be the religious book or text but allow me to create a place for those puya books not the religious one.Luwanglinux (talk) 16:32, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

@Luwanglinux: Firstly, there can't be forks (duplicate articles) about the same thing. Secondly, you don't understand what I am saying. I am telling you to edit the text to make it include other types texts classified as 'puya' but just don't remove the infobox and other templates or add you own categories to it. Gotitbro (talk) 16:35, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

you are not getting my point.Firstly that article lead and infobox is totally misleading that article can be a sub page for puya in a sense but if it is considered main as religious book thats a misleading information.Puya is not only a religious book how can the info box be about religion only.Luwanglinux (talk) 16:45, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

@Luwanglinux: Add the {{Infobox manuscript}} above the religious infobox in that case but the don't remove the {{Religious books}} template or add your own categories. Gotitbro (talk) 16:57, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

well a category for book,history is needed and I suggest it is better to move the religious context to a sub page.I will add Indian books.Puya as a main need to be under the category book or written records.Just allow me to create a Meetei Puya I will add the present religious book name in that too..Luwanglinux (talk) 17:10, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

@Luwanglinux: Then move the religious infobox to a section in the same article, please do not fork articles. Add additional categories (that already exist not the ones that you created) to the same article. Gotitbro (talk) 17:17, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Actually the Present Puya( Meitei texts) itself is very wrong from the title .Meitei text is Meetei Mayek not Puya I wonder what the creator thought at making that page.the page already has problem better to delete it i will write a better one you can review itLuwanglinux (talk) 17:15, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Can you correct the title to what it should be Meetei Puya(written records).I will definitely abide by rules to your suggestion while editing that pageLuwanglinux (talk) 17:24, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

@Luwanglinux: Article title looks fine to me and is in line with how we dismabiguate pages on Wikipedia. The scripts (Mayek, which you are referring to) and texts are very different things and the English usage is correct here. Gotitbro (talk) 17:30, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Also the caption use in infobox is also wrong "Wakoklon hillel thillen salai Ama Ilon pukok" puya is a top research work of the maichous the writer maichou is Angom chaopa and it was mentioned in that book it was transcribed as it should not be lost during Pamheiba time and that book was verified by national archive of India in 1989 for the timing the book was written Luwanglinux (talk) 17:42, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Manipuri cuisine should have been neutral like that from the very beginning,It's not only for meitei dts the point I wanted to put in the first place now I won't disturb it.Luwanglinux (talk) 09:08, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

• In the State of Manipur Kangleipak is very common..there is no national language for India. Manipuri language is one of the recognised official language of India,Kangleipak is native name there is no doubt in mentioning a naive name ,be neutral like you always said.stop removing context with proper resourceLuwanglinux (talk) 02:37, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

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Re:Redirects for caste

Dear User:Gotitbro, could you list which specific articles you would like to redirect to that article? Most of the redirects are creations that are specifically Chuhra castes. If we discuss them here, it will prevent edit warring. Note that my redirect was made on the basis of the WP:CFORK discussion here and not a decision that was made unilaterally as your message implies. I hope this helps and look forward to hearing from you. With regards, Anupam^Talk 01:17, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Reliable sources, such as Himachal Pradesh, authored by K. S. Singh and ‎B. R. Sharma; and published by the Anthropological Survey of India, treat the terms synonymously, stating "CHUHRA / BALMIKI They are variously called as the Chuhra, Chura, Chuhre, Bhangi, Balmiki, Lalbegi, Watal, Mazhabi and Christian Chuhra or Musalli." Likewise, Caste, Marriage, and Inequality, authored by Pauline Kolenda and published by Rawat Publications, states "Freedom is that after more than forty years , the Balmiki / Chuhra sanitation workers of the DMC were serfs in debt..." I look forward to hearing your thoughts. Kind regards, Anupam^Talk 01:21, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

@Anupam: I see, still the Valmiki/Balmiki name is not limited to the Chuhra and should redirect to the general topic on all castes known as such. These are the redirect changes I propose:

• Valmiki Caste → Valmiki caste
• Balmiki caste → Valmiki caste
• Balmiki → Valmiki (being the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, only a spelling difference; already has a bad hatnote for other topics)

Thank you for your reply User:Gotitbro. I can accept these three changes, though I will edit the article on the Valmiki caste to make it clear that in the Punjab region, the Valmiki caste is largely known as Chuhra. I hope this helps. With regards, Anupam^Talk 02:00, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Looked at the links at wiki and looks like your edits are fine. I also checked some more off-wiki and I'd say the Valmiki caste article is indeed a POVFORK and should be redirect to Chuhra (most other castes known as Balmiki are marginal). Sorry for the trouble, I would say redirect even Valmiki caste to Chuhra and redirect Balmiki to Balmikism since that is what most links refer to. Gotitbro (talk) 02:03, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Pinging Anupam. Gotitbro (talk) 02:04, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

User:Gotitbro, not a problem! That's why I thought I would ask you to discuss this with me first. I would recommend that you kindly comment here (so that others are aware of why we are endorsing the redirect) and then you can go ahead and create the redirect. I hope this helps and it was nice talking to you! Kind regards, Anupam^Talk 02:11, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

User:Gotitbro, could you kindly revert your edit here? Balmikism is a sect of Hinduism and though many adherents are Chuhras, not all are; some members of the Chamar and Dhobi castes, as with other Dalits, identify their religious faith as such. In Lahore, the Balmiki Mandir is one of two functional Hindu temples in the city and is attended by Hindus of all castes. I have read on this topic widely (note that I am the one who added references to that article, which did not have any prior to my work there) and am thus suggesting this to you. Kind regards, Anupam^Talk 02:29, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

@Anupam: I will leave this to you then but can you at least mention the caste/castes and Punjab somewhere in that article? That is necessary for anyone looking into the the topic. Gotitbro (talk) 02:36, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

User:Gotitbro, I will go ahead and do that. Thanks for your understanding. With regards, Anupam^Talk 02:43, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

@Anupam: I was looking at incoming links for Valmiki caste and I see that there are Valmiki/Balmiki in other places such as Rajasthan, Haryana and even in South India [Karnataka, Andhra Pradesh]. Are these the same as Chuhra? If yes, then we need to add this info to the article (including the lead) and rename it to Valmiki (caste)/similar (since the Chuhra term is specific to Punjab) or restore the POVFORK (which I wouldn't want to). Gotitbro (talk) 04:19, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

User:Gotitbro, could you kindly share with me a few of the articles in which the castes are identified as Valmiki? We have extensive literature written about the Chuhra. I would need to find additional sources if we were to expand the article on the Valmiki caste; when I found that article, it hardly had any. Kindly let me know! With regards, Anupam^Talk 15:26, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

@Anupam: These are the ones I see, Rajasthan: List of Scheduled castes in Rajasthan, Yashica Dutt Delhi: List of Scheduled Castes in Delhi, Haryana: Mirchpur, Dayachand Mayna Andhra Pradesh: Marur, Gaddalakonda Ganesh Karnataka: Ramesh Jarkiholi. There are other articles linked to the caste about Uttar Pradesh but that is mentioned in the Chuhra lead. I am guessing that it is the same caste in North India (Delhi, Haryana, Rajasthan) but I am not sure about South India. The article I think needs a rename anyhow.

I also moved this to the body, names/info specific to sects/castes should not generally be there in the lead about general Hinduism-related topics, it is a cause of constant edit wars and competing claims which are at best avoided (we also prefer only the most common Sanskrit names in the lead). Gotitbro (talk) 19:32, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

I've looked at the articles you've linked and don't see any reason for a rename. Haryana, Delhi and Himachal Pradesh are part of the Punjab region and that was the historical name of the caste. What are your reasons for wishing to rename the article? We already have an article on Dalits and it could be mentioned there that many modern Dalits use the name Valmiki to describe themselves; a journal article I was studying also states that "Valmiki was also the prevailing term used by others to denote the sanitation labour castes." Kind regards, Anupam^Talk 22:06, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

@Anupam: Alright, but I think the lead still needs to reflect the geographic situation better, it should mention that the Chuhra caste is found in other areas of North India as well like Rajasthan and even in South India. Currently the lead makes it "seem" like its limited to Punjab/UP. Gotitbro (talk) 22:14, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

User:Gotitbro, the sentence currently reads "Populated regions include the Punjab region of India and Pakistan, as well as Uttar Pradesh in India, among other parts of the Indian subcontinent" (emphasis added). Do you have any suggestions to modify this? I look forward to hearing from you. With regards, Anupam^Talk 22:19, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

@Anupam: I think that line should be replaced by "as well as northern and southern India, including Uttar Pradesh, among other parts of the Indian subcontinent". Gotitbro (talk) 22:28, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

The heaviest population is in Punjab and Uttar Pradesh, so these states will be named specifically. I will incorporate your suggestion as well, but will reword it slightly to read "Populated regions include the Punjab region of India and Pakistan, as well as Uttar Pradesh in India, among other parts of the Indian subcontinent such as southern India." Mentioning northern India again isn't beneficial because Punjab and UP are already listed (both of which are in northern India). I hope this helps. With regards, Anupam^Talk 22:56, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

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Moved to Talk:2020 India–Pakistan border skirmishes § Sourcing

I disagree with your revert here. The source is clearly saying that they got the information from the Indian military source.[16] How it is a 'media' claim anymore? Shankargb (talk) 01:49, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

@Shankargb: We are not going to source anonymous claims which media sources claim to be from "military sources". The military/government has provided no such numbers beyond their own casualties. The same thing happened in the 2019 India–Pakistan border skirmishes, where the government/military had provided no numbers but the media was citing various estimates from "sources". Only official claims go in infoboxes. Gotitbro (talk) 01:58, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

You seem misguided about how sources are used. Read WP:RS and understand that not a single source on the article is using totally military source. You also removed content from article body and not just from infobox. Unless the military disputes the information, you have no reason to ignore reliable sources who are quoting the "military sources".[17] As a side note, I don't see any "anonymous" source, but even if there was one then it should not be rejected at all. Citing an anonymous source does not lower your credibility. Shankargb (talk) 18:37, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

@Shankargb: Oh, please don't teach me about reliable sources, there is reason why most sources perennial sources (read news sources) from India and Pakistan are rejected/not relied upon here on wiki. Get yourself familiar with how and what things should be cited. Even in the article itself, only the officially claimed casualty numbers will be mentioned, other numbers outside of that might be mentioned if from named field experts not what local newspapers have to say from unnamed sources (read anonymous) have to say. That is how it has been on India-Pakistan conflict articles and generally through WP:CONSENSUS, as can be seen in the various Talk page discussions of previous conflicts. Gotitbro (talk) 18:57, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Missed signature

You might have missed your signature in your recent post at WP:ITNRD. I would have fixed it, had I known how to. Good luck. Ktin (talk) 18:07, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Going back on your word

Move was contested between you and me...you suggested Manipur Kingdom.I agree..I take it as consensus.even user Chaipau supported but with a different view which I explained.why are you reverting even a technical move by an admin...ꯂꯨꯋꯥꯡ (ꯆꯥ) 12:47, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Any move that is contested should pass through a move discussion which you have started now and will be closed by an experienced uninvolved editor or an admin who will assess the arguments and votes by various users therein. You cannot both start a move discussion on the Talk page and claim it to be a technical move at the same time (the moving admin likely missed that you had started a move discussion as well). I have not given my support to your suggested move nor have I voted in as of now, it was merely a spelling suggestion for a move request which you might have make (as you have done now). Please wait for other editors to comment at the discussion and for it to close. Gotitbro (talk) 13:06, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Ok I will wait... also the revision history of the article need to be revised...your revert removed many well reference and already reached consensus lines..ꯂꯨꯋꯥꯡ (ꯆꯥ) 14:09, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

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Saubhagya Sundari

Hi Gotitbro. You have added information about the film adaptation in Saubhagya Sundari. But that film is different from this play. It was not adapted from this play. :) --Gazal world (talk) 06:15, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

@Gazal world: Might be a loose adaptation but I am pretty sure it was derived from this play or story. Gotitbro (talk) 08:50, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

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Hii as u write about movies and serials on historical figure then please add also about portray of Rana Sanga in popular culture. 42.111.3.200 (talk) 09:43, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

@42.111.3.200: There is no standalone film or television show on Rana Sanga as such, I have added what I could find about him in films and television. Gotitbro (talk) 10:03, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

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Kabaddi World Cup and the two articles on it should all now be back as they were (I saw that you'd done the necessary with Kabaddi World Cup (Circle style)). I've also recreated Kabaddi World Cup (disambiguation). (I know next to nothing about kabaddi, but do fix DABlinks; and remembered the DAB page as soon as I saw your post at WP:ANI.) Narky Blert (talk) 18:46, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

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Make an article

make an article about Bikram malati (film director) mismatched actor played biky role create Bikram malati article about actor director — Preceding unsigned comment added by BikyownK (talk • contribs) 01:17, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

@BikyownK: While the person does not appear WP:NOTABLE to me (nor am I familiar with him), feel free to WP:CREATE an article if you believe he meets relevant wiki guidelines (such as WP:GNG). Gotitbro (talk) 08:39, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Request: Changes in Article : Akbar

Hello, could you please add in the marriage section about Rukmavati Bai, also known as Jodhi Bibi, the youngest daughter of Rao Maldeo Rathore by Tipu Paswan(concubine) who was born posthumously to him. She married Akbar in 1581 when she was about 17 (I think) . She was sent to Akbar in dōlō and this marriage was either arranged by Chandrasen or Udai Singh. You can find several sources including The Mertiyo Rathors of Merta, Rajasthan Volume II pg-35. Manavati (talk) 07:25, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

@Manavati: Feel free to request the changes the Talk page of Akbar. Gotitbro (talk) 08:39, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Okay. Thank you. Manavati (talk) 10:02, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

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Khizr khan

Hi. I saw you edited khizr khan page recently to its original form, but you didnt add the Afghan mention (which is very important source) of Muntakhab-al-Lubab . Can you add that too so the artice become balanced and complete? It goes like this." while according to Muntakhab-al-Lubab he was of Afghan origin." Thank you .

@84.211.44.191: Please provide a reliable source which states this, either a secondary one confirming this or a primary translation of the Muntakhab-al-Lubab with the exact passage. I tried to verify this but came up with nothing. Gotitbro (talk) 22:13, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi. Thank you for reply. Here is both a secondary source and primary source stating the actual paragraph in the book. https://historyofpashtuns.blogspot.com/2015/11/sayyid-or-syed-sultans-of-delhi-were_12.html. I think this sould be more than enough. Thank you.

@84.211.44.191: Blogs are not reliable sources but I was able to find the primary source on the Internet Archive and have added it, a secondary source (by a recognized historian) is still needed which analyzes or re-states this thus I have also tagged it as such. Gotitbro (talk) 18:35, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi, may be we can use this article by dr neira as a "temperory" secondary source.https://www.boloji.com/articles/785/history-of-islam-in-india

That is a blog again (and Hebbar is surgeon not a historian), moreover the blog talks about the dynasties as a whole not particulalry about Khizr Khan's ethnicity (also has errors like Multan being in Sindh); a poor source. There are no temporary additions, the tag is apt until a better source can be found. Gotitbro (talk) 21:51, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

There have been vandalisem (removal of your source) on khizr khan origin section. You can add it and also i found secondary source( you can check it on sayed dynastys edit history) and fix both. thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.211.44.191 (talk) 21:56, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

sayed dynasty.

Hi. As you have edited the khizr khan page i think its fair to inform you that there have been vandalisem in sayed dynasty page. The user have added origins with many mistakes. Can you add the correct origins that you contributed in khizr khan page. thank you.

Hi. The vandalism is still there in sayed dynasty's origin section. Sorry for repeat but as you are known to the article (edited khizr khan origins) You are the best person for the job at hand. Here is the link. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayyid_dynasty . I hope you do something about it soon. Because it seriously undermines the article. Thank you!

Rukshar Dhillon's ‎citizenship

Hello, Gotitbro. Re this edit, I noticed that you have changed Dhillon's citizenship to India, however, I haven't been able to find any source that says the subject holds Indian citizenship. Thoughts? -- Ab207 (talk) 07:03, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

@Ab207: Any RS which 'explicitly' says that she holds a British passport? Most sources refer to her as an Indian actress or as working in Indian films, stating anything otherwise based on an assumption is WP:OR. Gotitbro (talk) 10:15, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Birthplace is a more defining factor than place of work for citizenship. Talk:Nora Fatehi#Nationality probably interests you. Though specifics differ, it's a related case. -- Ab207 (talk) 18:04, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

In that case the subject was born and raised in the said country of citizenship (Canada) and sources exist that state that along with her roots (Morocco). Not so clear here, the place of birth might be London but she was raised in India and sources do not exist that clearly state her citizenship and we should not put conjectures as to fact. Gotitbro (talk) 02:49, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

That's true. Given the citizenship part is a little murky, how about removing it on the side of caution and introduce her as "an actress of Indian origin"? -- Ab207 (talk) 07:47, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

That would imply that she is not of Indian nationality which again goes into OR. So, it should be avoided; perhaps the lead can be as such "Indian film actress" and wikilink Indian film to Cinema of India. Gotitbro (talk) 09:45, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

I don't think presenting verifiable information and omitting what is unknown falls under OR. "Indian film actress" is not an improvement either, because it implies that she is an Indian national who is a film actress. Wikilinks are intended to provide additional information but not to present content in the article. I believe it's better to introduce her as "an actress", and write that she was born in London and raised in India in the next sentence. Somewhat similar to Russell Crowe. -- Ab207 (talk) 13:37, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

I am not sure what the contention is here. There is no source which says that she holds British citizenship quite the contrary they present her as an Indian actress. Both the examples you have given above have detailed sources describing citizenship issues. Not the case here, just because someone is born outside of their country of origin and residence does not mean we are going synthesize leads and the article around it especially when sources don't say otherwise. This is all what I have to say about this. Gotitbro (talk) 13:44, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

I think the contention here is quite clear. It's not unreasonable to say that Dhillion may hold British citizenship because she is born in London. Sources referring to her as an Indian is ambiguous because it could mean ethnicity also, as seen in Fatehi's case. -- Ab207 (talk) 15:10, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Removal of country of origin from Ayn-ul-Mulk Multani

Hi, can you please the explain the reasoning behind removing the mention of Punjab (as a nation where Multan lies) from the biography and where the modern day state where Multan lies?

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ZerePayat (talk • contribs) 13:15, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Hardly consequential especially in the lead. And inserting these entities everywhere in the article borders on WP:POVPUSH. The subject is not notable for his nisba, rest of the info on his early life is scant (which is mentioned therein). Noting just the city is fine, everything else is WP:OR and POVPUSH. Gotitbro (talk) 15:25, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

List of accidents and incidents involving commercial aircraft

I reverted your edit to this page. Why? In big letters above the edit box it reads- PLEASE DO NOT ADD ITEMS TO THIS LIST THAT DO NOT HAVE A LINKED DEDICATED WIKIPEDIA ARTICLE. Nevertheless you made multiple entries to the page without articles in your edit....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 23:49, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

@WilliamJE: Sorry, I must've missed it in the visual editor. Though I did also add incidents which have dedicated Wikipedia articles, I have restored them and removed the others. Gotitbro (talk) 23:51, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

1- There are no redirects on this page. The article must be about a accident not a person or a coup.

2- References are not needed. A link to the WP article is all that is required...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 23:57, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

@WilliamJE: I think I have addressed both of these issues now. Cheers. Gotitbro (talk) 00:06, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

And you're changing a 1981 accident from the 1981 section to 1980....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 00:10, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

@WilliamJE: That was incorrectly listed under 1980, it happened in 1981 as can easily be checked on the article page and its refs. Gotitbro (talk) 00:12, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Bell bottom edit

Khalistani separatists? How did you get know that this hijacking was done by khalistani separatists?? Even the source you mentioned does not say anywhere tht this was done by them.!! You do not have a proper citation or source regarding this and you simply mentioned it as khalistani separatists...wth? you do not become a great editer by just putting in random articles whatever you like..

Did the movie makers tell you exactly on which incident this movie is based!????

provide a proper citation or proof and then do whatever you want Adithya003 (talk) 06:36, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Firstly, mind your tone and avoid WP:PERSONALATTACKS, unless I repeat you are looking for a ban. That was clearly noted in the trailer and for which I have added a WP:RS source now as well. You could've simply politely asked for a source on the article's talk page or your edit summaries rather than disruptively repeatedly removing the content and even wrongly citing it as spam (read WP:SPAM for what is actually considered under the policy- note unsourced content isn't it). You needn't go on lecturing other experienced editors when you haven't familiarized yourself with Wikipedia's policies in the first place. Gotitbro (talk) 06:53, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

August 2021

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Farah Khan. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges. Princepratap1234 (talk) 16:04, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

@Princepratap1234: Do you even understand what WP:Vandalism is? My edits were perfectly in line with WP:FURTHER READING, read up on that before serving spurious notices to experienced editors. Gotitbro (talk) 16:11, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Bhushan Subba

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Muhajir people

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About the designer of Flag of Pakistan

Hi! I've seen that you've reverted many times addition of Amiruddin Kidwai as national flag designer as the a/c to archived source of Ministery of Information of Pakistan states that Muhammad Ali Jinnah is the flag designer but i've finded this source from Dawn from its 2009's archives which clears this fact and about the confusion of three flag designers as you stated that previous consensus in 2018 here i've found the source of ARY News which clears this confusion that Master Altaf Hussain sworned the flag only based on proposal of design's request by Muhammad Ali Jinnah and again source mentions Amiruddin Kidwai as flag designer and there are plenty of many other sources like [18] from The Nation (newspaper and [19] from Daily Times (newspaper) and [20] from The News International (newspaper) which mentions Amiruddin Kidwai as flag designer, so should we now mention Amiruddin Kidwai as flag designer now on other pages also like National symbols of Pakistan? Wallu2 (talk) 09:13, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

@Wallu2: In the absence of official information from the Government of Pakistan with regards to Kidwai, we need to be extra careful about our sources and the information we are adding. The two Wikipedia policies that are important here are WP:RELIABLESOURCES and WP:CIRCULAR (where information was added to Wikipedia and was copied by other sources without further/independent checks). I was unable to find any reliable sources (or official ones) which list Kidwai as the designer or go into the specifics on how he actually designed the flag besides WP:PASSINGMENTIONs. Newspapers are not generally reliable for historical information (see WP:HISTRS), the sources you have linked here are also problematic and not upto the mark. I will analyse them one by one:

• Dawn: While this might have been okay, the article mentions no byline (writer of the article) and is a clear no go from here. And only a passing mention is made of Kidwai.
• ARY News: This also mentions no byline and also contains a mere passing mention of Kidwai.
• The Nation: Not acceptable at all, written by/the speech of a school student.
• Daily Times: An opinion piece (which are not considered reliable), plus only a passing mention of Kidwai.
• The News: Opinion piece which appears to be a circular copy of Wikipedia content.

None of these would be considered reliable on Wikipedia. And since no official mention is made of Kidwai, I am apprehensive of adding that in articles. A source lacks which mentions the detailed history of Pakistan's flag and who exactly designed it. The best we have is that it was based on the AIML flag with additional details (white strip et al) suggested by Jinnah. Rest of the info on designers etc. is dubious without historical backing. Gotitbro (talk) 10:38, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

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Hello Gotitbro, I created the article “Gautam Brahmins” long back in 2006. My objective of creating this article was to provide information specifically about the Brahmin community of Western Uttar Pradesh, neighboring Rajasthan and Haryana, who wrote the last name as “Gautam”: But afterwards, some contributors started adding information about the Brahmin community of other regions of India who also happened to bear the last name “Gautam”. Well, I didn’t mind. But what happened later, a few disgruntled elements started vandalizing the article by sneakingly trying to impose information that is not at all related with the Brahmin community (forget about the Brahmin community having the last name “Gautam”), e.g., edits by 2409:4063:4397:16BD:1CBD:28BC:149C:174 on 25 July, 2021. I have already replied to 2409:4063:4397:16BD:1CBD:28BC:149C:174 on his talk page and provided the factual information against the misinformation the person has spread through his vandalizing efforts on the history page of the article. I appreciate your endeavor to add some concrete information on the article. But in this enthusiasm, knowingly or unknowingly, you have forgotten the objective of the article by just writing the names all the persons having last “Gautam” and who have a page on Wikipedia under the heading “Notable People”. But that’s not the way. I totally disagree with you. We have another article on Wikipedia named “Gautam Rajput”. Names of some people in the list of persons under “Notable People” in the article “Gautam Brahmins” should have belonged to the “Gautam Rajput” article. Some names should have belonged to the other different community pages. By clubbing all persons (having last name “Gautam”) together under the page “Gautam Brahmins” is just providing totally wrong information (and deceiving) the readers of Wikipedia across the world. That’s why, I am deleting a few names ( I know that they don’t belong to the Brahmin community at all) from the list and I assume that you would agree with me. Thanks. (talk) 01:17, 05 October 2021 (UTC)

@Lomasha: Guatam Rajputs are not known to use Gautam as a surname in prevalence (Singh et al being more common). I did do my due diligence and did not include people where I knew the last name was a patronym or the person was outside of the group/traditional areas. The persons you have removed do indeed not belong the Brahmin group, that was an oversight on my part, I regret the error. Gotitbro (talk) 20:13, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

@GotitBro:Thanks for your clarification. But again I don’t completely agree with the argument provided by you regarding the “Gautam Rajput”. They are mainly found in eastern Uttar Pradesh and Vindhya regions of Madhya Pradesh. Rajputs/ Thakurs affiliate with the similar “Gotra system” as Brahmins – the only difference is that they mainly follow the “Teacher-Disciple lineage” system (instead of patrilineal system what the Brahmins mainly affiliate with). So only those Rajputs/ Thakurs prefer to adopt the last name as “Gautam”, who affiliate with that gotra. ‘’Singh” as last name is however, popular among Rajputs/ Thakurs, we should not get confused that every person bearing ‘’Singh” as last name would belong to this community. Rather majority of persons having ‘’Singh” as last name hail from non-Rajput/ Thakur community – from different communities across the array. They have their own specific(and historical) lastnames.

Anyway, I appreciate your interest in Indian sociological structure. By the way, I wonder whether you are a native of India (specifically North India). Lomasha (talk) 18:02, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

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I'm not sure that Pandit Todarmal should redirect to Diwan Todarmal. What's currently at the Pandit page was originally named Diwan; I suspect they may be different individuals. "Dewan#Title" is a hereditary title, whereas Pandit is a honorific for a type of scholar. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 14:55, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

@OhNoitsJamie: It's the same person, a disruptive editor (now blocked) moved the page to a dubious [official] title, I was undoing that. The Diwan redirect can/should be deleted. Pandit Todarmal was the article's original name and how the person is refered to as (to distinguish from the more famous Todarmal). There is a Todarmal of Sirhind redirect if someone wants to remove the honorific from there. Gotitbro (talk) 19:18, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

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Hi, I commented on the RfC you posted. Could you point me to some of the discussions that have been problematic in the topic area? I'm quite interested in seeing them. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 20:35, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

@Sammi Brie: Did not notice any discussion on this front that it why I started the RfC. Just noticed a lot of editing contention/removal and [uncited] addition (e.g. your edit itself here) in this param of the template which doesn't actually contribute anything valuable to the article. What caught my eye were a lot of non-descript service providers being added to the area which is what finally motivated me to start the RfC, better to do away with this altogether. Gotitbro (talk) 21:30, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

The way it's coded, any attempt to add providers with index numbers above 10 fails silently (without even a check for unknown parameters because of the use of regex), so I remove them. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 21:31, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Oh, I see. Even with the upper limit, as you can see, it can quickly turn into clutter when those [sat, cab etc.] params keep filling in. Gotitbro (talk) 21:37, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

You should have seen some of these infoboxes when the limit was 30 for cable and satellite. Just look at BabyTV before the culling. The axe needed to be wielded, and I've come down pretty hard. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:35, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I did notice the reduction and it was a job well done. I thought we'd eventually get rid of these after that, and deferred from any step on my side, but had to take one when the clutter kept piling up. Gotitbro (talk) 10:19, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

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Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at George Harrison, you may be blocked from editing. George Harrison never lived in India. Visiting India and having one's ashes scattered in India is not the same as residence in India. Read Expatriate before making similar edits. Sundayclose (talk) 01:32, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

@Sundayclose: This is just excessive warning templating. The category itself can be justified by the fact that Harrison did stay for sometime in India on visitation (that is what expat means after all). But I neither disputed your revert nor did you ask for the reasoning before assuming disruption. Please don't be this excessive, I am an experienced user myself and WP:AGF exists. Gotitbro (talk) 01:38, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

AGAIN, read Expatriate. He visited India. He did not reside in India. So far two other editors have thanked me for reverting your edit. Get consensus at Talk:George Harrison. No, it's not "excessive warning" considering all the previous warnings you have received. Being experienced does not grant you any special privileges. Sundayclose (talk) 01:43, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

@Sundayclose: It is excessive, the thanks received on your edits do not justify or change that. Did you even read the what the warnings were about or who gave them before making an assumption of disruptive behavior. Neither did I edit war or challenge your edit, not sure what makes you think that I was being disruptive or acting in bad-faith; even if I was wrong it could be/was an honest mistake. Be polite it does not hurt, not everyone is coming to bite you - not me anyway. Gotitbro (talk) 01:51, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Yes I read the warnings, which is exactly why I gave you a level 3. You have multiple warnings for disruptive editing and edit warring, as well as two blocks for edit warring. I'm not arguing this point further. I'll repeat a previous comment and then I'm finished here: Don't make such edits again without consensus. Sundayclose (talk) 01:58, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

@Sundayclose: Clearly this is in vain. Being WP:BOLD or having past warnings (mostly by socks or otherwise)/blocks (both while dealing with socks) is not a crime (just because I haven't sanitized my Talk page of these) that you need hold against someone's head on an edit that clearly was not disruptive and was in good-faith which didn't have consensus as a prerequisite. Your labelling an editor and simply assuming bad-faith with aspersions by taking a gander at the talk page when challenged on frivolous templating is not going to get you far. Gotitbro (talk) 02:09, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

I thought I was finished, but you keep stirring things up. You say you're an "experienced editor"; do you honestly think that removing warnings from your talk page exonerates you from the warnings?? I think I'm beginning to see the source of your problem edits. "Sanitizing" your talk page is irrelevant. The warnings are still there in the history, which is the first place I would look and the first place an admin looks when they come to block you. Now, I really am finished. Have a good day. Sundayclose (talk) 02:18, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Oh my! As if any editor is not aware of that. That was more a point on your gandering at blocks/warnings to label my edits as disruptive (WP:NOTWALLOFSHAME). Of-course you keep digging unrelated topics and do not address in what way was the edit itself disruptive or fleeting templating of users. Do not warn users if you cannot properly justify them in the first place. 02:26, 22 December 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gotitbro (talk • contribs)

Sundayclose, as far as I can see, your revert of the addition of a category to George Harrison was a good idea. As for the warning, well, people are free to use any template they see fit. However, the warnings on this talk page (or at least the ones I remember seeing being placed before) are all bogus: posted either by socks, by POV pushers, or unwisely by good faith editors in the middle of a heated dispute. I wouldn't place any stock in them if I were you. – Uanfala (talk) 00:00, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

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@Kautilya3: A very Happy New Year to you as well! Have a great year ahead :). Gotitbro (talk) 02:17, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Where is mother teresa?

in your edit of article about Bible Ki Kahaniyan,you said mother teresa appears in it, so i am intrigued. Where bro?Waltzingmogumogupeach (talk) 08:03, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

@Waltzingmogumogupeach: Here for e.g. Gotitbro (talk) 09:40, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

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Moved to Talk:Gangubai Kothewali

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Firstly, Kathiawad is not a administrative place also Saurashtra is also not an administrative place. See the search results of Kathiawad and Saurashtra in Wikipedia. In that scene by adding Kathiawad, you also vandalis the Wikipedia policy. Secondly Western Indian agecy are group of all agency of former west india. If you know Bombay Presidency was much divided into princely states to ease of rule. Even Bombay Presidency have northern and southern region, so to distinguish this result, west Indian agency should be there. And lastly about adding Maharashtra, Maharashtra is a state of country India, and it should be there. So if you want only three subplace you should remove Kamathipura instead of Maharashtra as other editors with lots edits do earlier.

I wait for your answer... Thenexttalk (talk) 18:15, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

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Chronology of Independence

Just so you know, Pakistan was independent before India (Aug 14th vs Aug 15th). So in British India's infobox, it should be sorted chronologically like the rest of the successor states.Re12345 (talk) 18:33, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

No, that's a misconception. The ceremonies were held a day apart so that both could be attended by Mountbatten. But the act itself came into force simultaneously on 15th August (as noted in the act's text itself). Quoting from Stanley Wolpert in Britannia:

The transfer of power was completed on August 14 in Pakistan and August 15 in India, held a day apart so that Lord Mountbatten could attend both ceremonies. With the birth of the two independent nations, the British raj formally came to an end on August 15, 1947.

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Hi, I’ve seen you’ve protected the page sathamba by using a tag *banrevert*. I’m new to Wikipedia and doesn’t know editing rules and techniques.

Can you help me ? How to add ban revert tag ? Microcreator!99 (talk) 10:22, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Atleast reply!!☹️ Microcreator!99 (talk) 11:46, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

The article Sathamba was being disrupted by a WP:SOCKPUPPET who was reverted per WP:BANREVERT and the article protected from editing (by an admin from a request at WP:RPP) per WP:SEMI, where a certain amount of edits/experience is required before registered users can edit. You do not need to add BANREVERT to your edit summaries unless you are reverting/undoing a blocked sockpuppet. I would recommend you read the blue links in my reply here and the WP:5 Pillars. Also, remember that before removing/changing large amounts of content from an article, WP:CONSENSUS should be sought at their Talk pages. Gotitbro (talk) 12:00, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Hii, thanks for replying, I only understand a little of what you've replied. as I can see you helped removing unsourced caste claim Koli princely state from vakhtapur and maguna too! can you please check the page Kadoli state. i have already tried to edit it but somebody trying to target the community only and adding koli tag to the page repeatedly. I can also see one person targeting the pages which is tagged by Koli caste. I have added some of the reference and edit the page "kadoli state" but that has been reverted. as i'm not at all techy person, but what i understand is I cannot always revert anyone's edit because it will lead to edit war.

I can see your contributions in lot of pages. I can also see you've tagged "koli princely states" page for the speedy deletion but that has been removed from deletion.

can you please check and edit the page "kadoli state"?

as I can also see the user who created this page is blocked.

also there is unsourced caste claim by citing some of the books which is written by britishers at the time for british Raj and I dont even think they have any right to coment on any caste or community. and i think commenting on any caste or community without any solid proof is against wikipedia rules.

can you please edit that page ? by adding geographical co-ordinations and removing any king of caste claim ? and adding some more information like the district where it is located and by adding maps.

I shall be thankful to you if you takeout some time and do the required changes.

Thanks. Microcreator!99 (talk) 16:38, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

as you can see i'm not very expert in all this otherwise i would have done this earlier Microcreator!99 (talk) 16:39, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Looks like it is the same sockpuppet who was disrupting articles before, I have started a sockpuppet investigation at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Thakor Sumant Sinhji Jhala and will wait for it to conclude/to be closed by admins before moving ahead. Thanks for bringing this to attention. WP:CASTE sanctions apply to most caste related articles in India/South Asia and users disrupting articles with such WP:POVPUSH will be looking at blocks. Gotitbro (talk) 23:08, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

so we should wait till they conclude anything? I don't think so anyone is taking action on this kind of things. because a lot of people have already discussed about this on talk page and they've reverted the edits everytime. even cititng the proper sources doesn't work (bcs i've already tried).

I dont think so, the admin who created this page will delete this . I thought you'll do something 🥺 😢

why don't you do something? I mean remove that unsourced caste claim form tha page and that would be helpful🙃

Bdw, Are you a gujarati ? or probably an Indian. Microcreator!99 (talk) 03:02, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

An admin did not create the article/page, some user did a while back (anyone can, but you should first familiarize yourself with Wikipedia) before it was disrupted by the sockpuppeteer. The users who have reverted you are accounts of that same sockpuppeteer or other users who are not familiar with the sockpuppet. The SPI above needs to/should be concluded before effective changed can take place, I can only follow on from that as I am just a user like you who happened to notice sockpuppet disruption. I would recommend you first familiarize yourself with Wikipedia before moving ahead and getting into controversial topics, e.g. reading Wikipedia policies and editing non-controversial topics. Gotitbro (talk) 03:42, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for replying, i'll not move ahead with anything bcs i'm not familiar with the wikipedia and it doesnt even seems too easy to me. you please look into the matter bcs you understand the guidelines of wikipedia easily. Microcreator!99 (talk) 04:08, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

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This one keeps on pushing dubious/obscure name as redirects mostly created by them. For example here [21] [22] [23], etc. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:49, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: Had noticed the user last year and looks like he has been notified/warned quite a few times for his disruptive behaviour. A lot of his edits are to introduce dubious archaism into articles (WP:ARCHAIC) including non-standard English spellings and non-existent historical polities. Many of the redirects are straight-up WP:HOAXes with no attestation in RS, which he then uses to pipe-link and disrupt articles. A good case for ANI disruption can be seen here. Leave a warning for now, if he does not desist, can proceed with the ANI. Gotitbro (talk) 13:40, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Done that. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:49, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi, can you have a look at these changes/removal here. The lead sentence is not per the consensus. Someone replaced a language article link with a map image. Also sourced content "D. N. Jha suggests, instead, that these incidents were the result of Buddhist–Brahmin skirmishes in a fight for supremacy" has been removed. - 117.201.112.24 (talk) 10:33, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

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Greetings @Gotitbro

Hi, I am User:Bookku usually I work on information and knowledge gap areas. I am planning to work further on scholarly historian part of the article Anarkali.

You seem to have previously contributed to article's fictional portrayal section. In the most recent copy edit the articles fictional portrayal part also has been tagged for additional references. If the topic still interests you then please help update the section as per your own spare time availability.

Thanks and warm regards

Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' (talk) 03:39, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

@Bookku: I have added the missing refs (Indian films are covered by the Encyclopedia of Indian Cinema and for the TV shows cited further). The section probably needs some prose editing though. Gotitbro (talk) 04:11, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Many thanks for very prompt support. I am also working on an article Draft:Love in Pakistan please let me know if you would have any inputs for that too. Thanks and warm regards Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' (talk) 04:21, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

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Hi, can you have a look at this unexplained removal? Thanks. - 117.201.117.162 (talk) 09:38, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi, it is regarding this addition/change of content based on a blog (unreliable) source. Please do the needful. Regards. - 117.201.116.188 (talk) 10:38, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

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Was looking at your categories for discussion post on commons about the cats created by sock user:Wildhorse3. I will empty those frivolous cats and send them for deletion. I see that the user created a page about the Indus basin which was deleted because he created it while evading a ban. I have created a page recently about the Indus river basin (i.e. the hydrological drainage basin and not some inexistent "cultural region") using scholarly sources. Do review that article, suggestions are welcome. UnpetitproleX (talk) 21:53, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

@UnpetitproleX: Thanks for the help at Commons. As for the basin article, I believe forking should be avoided unless necessary as such articles tend to attract disrupters every now and then. The article as of now is stubby and should be expanded and if you can keep a watch on it that would be further good. If it can't or the content to be expanded overlaps with Indus River itself (as with a lot of river basin articles), it is better to merge it into the latter. Gotitbro (talk) 05:08, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

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IP edits review request

While running around reverting another sock's edits, I came across edits by 2409:40D6:1008:646A::/64 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) many of which are to articles you have edited earlier. Can you review the IP's edits? Let me know if you thing any of these pages require protection or if you recognize if the IP is a known LTA. Thanks. Abecedare (talk) 18:41, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

@Abecedare: Yes, this is the same IP user who was making threats against my life a few days ago. Belongs to quite an extensive sock network: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Thakor Sumant Sinhji Jhala.

The recent edits from the range all seem to be him, an extension of the block to all pages in that range is required here. Gotitbro (talk) 18:58, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Oh, wow! Pinging @ScottishFinnishRadish: who had issued the most recent partial rangeblock to see if an adjustment is possible. Abecedare (talk) 19:06, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Is it just the just /64 or the whole range? The /22 range is pretty big, which is why it's namespace limited. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:02, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

@ScottishFinnishRadish: /64 would be fine I am guessing, not seeing much activity beyond that. The sock is also a known IP hopper so only a stopgap measure is required here. Gotitbro (talk) 21:14, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

I blocked the 64 for three days. If it keeps up after that, let me know. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:18, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

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Nomination of Sportskeeda for deletion

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Puneet Issar

Hi, it is regarding this edit of yours. I couldn't find source(s) supporting the changes. Can you help? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:44, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: And cited, thanks. Great to see you back, hope you are doing well :). Gotitbro (talk) 09:56, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Thanks man, I was busy IRL, out of town. Hope everything in fine on your side . - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:01, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Phoolan Devi

Hi Gotitbro, we met some time ago when you corrected some false information I mistakenly added about the Nari Shakti Puraskar. I wonder if you would be interested to give an opinion at Wikipedia:Peer review/Phoolan Devi/archive1? Specifically I'd love a definitive answer on naming conventions since the guidance, and sources, are for me unclear on whether to refer to her as Devi or Phoolan Devi after first mention. Cheers, Mujinga (talk) 11:48, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

@Mujinga: Hi, Devi here is equivalent to the -ji Indian honorific so a sole usage of that would be equivalent to using Ms., Mrs. etc. in the article. I would recommend using "Phoolan Devi" or her actual surname if it is known (though many married women and the like use Devi itself as a surname). Gotitbro (talk) 12:42, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Thanks that's really helpful! Happy editing Mujinga (talk) 18:39, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Disruptive IP

Have a look at this disruptive IP. I've reverted some of the obvious [27] [28] [29] [30]. Please keep an eye on these, also see [31] [32] . - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:10, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

I see that he also created a sock, need to be on a lookout for further disruptions from there as well beyond the IP shenanigans. Gotitbro (talk) 11:50, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Have a look at this. I was there to do some cleanup when I saw that your edit has been reverted [33]. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:50, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: Thanks for informing, I had started an extensive discussion on the Talk page but that caste-based editor has not responded and keeps inserting what he thinks is right without regards to the fact that he is restoring the POV edits of an LTA sock. Do keep an eye the article and please comment in the Talk page discussion. Gotitbro (talk) 14:51, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

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Thennilavu

Good job adding Indian films to more categories. Should Thennilavu be added to Category:Film censorship in India? You please read the filming section and decide whether reshooting scenes due to censor board's objection warrants it. Kailash29792 (talk) 14:42, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

@Kailash29792: Any significant alteration by a certification authority to a film can be covered under censorship. Where such alterations caused significant controversy that would be a straightforward inclusion, and even in cases where not so but critical alterations were still imposed a case would be made, and I think climax or siginificant reshoots would fall under that. I have added the cat as such there then and since it includes caste based conflict, I have added a further race/ethnicity cat for that which would cover it. Gotitbro (talk) 14:56, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. Should the same be done for Naanal and Sholay? Having new scenes shot due to censor interferences. Kailash29792 (talk) 16:21, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

@Kailash29792: Since significant scenes from Sholay were actually cut and resulted in an eventual re-release as a director's cut, that is indeed censorship. I am not sure about Naanal as adding a backstory to a character does not appear to be a case of censorship as normally understood. Gotitbro (talk) 16:45, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

• @Kailash29792: Can you check the edits made by Nandagasi, appear to be mostly vandalism to me. Please look into them and a vandalism report might be needed as well. Gotitbro (talk) 12:34, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

  @Kailash29792 I have been trying to improve the List of Indian film series article. Can you check what might be missing there in Tamil (and other film industries), in terms of confirmed upcoming/released sequels etc. Thanks. Gotitbro (talk) 11:23, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

  Looks pretty expansive to me. Just needs more sources. Kailash29792 (talk) 13:00, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

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family relations in professional wrestling

Hi, please don't add amateur wrestlers like the Phogat sisters and their relatives to the list of List of family relations in professional wrestling, pro wrestling and sports wrestling are not the same thing. Thank you. Happy editing. ★Trekker (talk) 19:47, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

@StarTrekker: I see, though I would note that some of the sisters and their relatives have indeed participated in private promotions including MMA events. So the inclusion might not be wholly incorrect.

About this edit, if not co-siblings-in-law what would the relation between first cousin siblings-in-law be?

Thanks Gotitbro (talk) 20:02, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

MMA is still sport so not professional wrestling, which is staged and a form of theater.

Someone who is married to your cousin is your cousin-in-law.★Trekker (talk) 20:23, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. Gotitbro (talk) 20:30, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

List of Indian film series

Nice work but please do not add Dhruva Natchatiram, Mafia, Indru Netru Naalai and any other series where the second film releasing is doubtful. DareshMohan (talk) 18:56, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

@DareshMohan: I have only added unreleased films where there is an official announcement as such (Mafia, Indru) or where the film itself is supposed to release in parts but was shot simultaneously (Dhruva). That should not pose a problem unless it is established that the sequel has been abandoned entirely (officially or realistically otherwise). Cheers Gotitbro (talk) 19:02, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

The film has to release though. There was a puja for Indru but the film was never made. Only released films/films that are made should be added. But I thank 🙏 you for adding all the film series even in all languages. DareshMohan (talk) 19:04, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

@DareshMohan: Was just trying to be holistic for all Indian film industries (for this mostly abandoned article). I understand your concerns, though I hope you do add the sequels et. al. when they indeed release.

As for Chakra, the article simply does states it as a sequel. If this is indeed incorrect/unconfirmed then it should be mentioned there. And for Dial Karthick, short films should be included if they do form part of the same series/narrative. Gotitbro (talk) 19:13, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for working on the abandoned article. Two feature films is best for a film series while short films are not considered. It is nice that you are working on pages across languages. Do you know a lot about films? DareshMohan (talk) 19:29, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

I see. And I do try to improve articles on Indian cinema every now and then: cats, expansion, vandals etc. Gotitbro (talk) 19:41, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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		For your work on List of Indian film series. DareshMohan (talk) 19:34, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

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I see, thanks for the heads up. Gotitbro (talk) 03:14, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

A reminder to please do not include multiple blue links in disambiguation entries -- and especially do not link to articles that do not mention the term. older ≠ wiser 18:24, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

I was under the impression that extremely relevant links might be blue linked (even more than once).

And in that instance I thought the character article mentioned it, my bad. Gotitbro (talk) 18:33, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Depends on what you mean by "extremely relevant". If something is only briefly mentioned in an article, that is far from extremely relevant. older ≠ wiser 19:14, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

MGR

Have a look at these changes [34]. Thanks. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:53, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: Run-off the-mill vandalism. Warned the last IP (especially pernicious) but do keep an eye on him, as a multitude of reverts by others do not seem to have deterred him. Gotitbro (talk) 13:15, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Yes, I'll. Would you mind keeping an eye on these articles [35] [36] [37]. This IP range (49.206..) frequents transport-related articles and seems like an LTA. Lokeshwaran or something, got blocked, have to find the ID. Had a similar disregard of WP:COMMONNAME WP:NOINDICSCRIPT and quite an edit warrior. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:19, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Would see. A page protection might be warranted here as well, especially the first case. Gotitbro (talk) 13:30, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Found him [38], filed an SPI, AIV and ANI report against the range. Lets see. Hoping for some sort of block/partial block. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:38, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

The above range got blocked for a month (not every IP though). Another - Isn't this obvious POV [39]? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:42, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, SPI does not consider CU for IPs and accounts but an analysis of editing behaviour might lead to something more substantial.

About the script, where such issues appear frequently just remove all of them citing "script clutter" (the pronunciation/transliteration maybe left but that is upto discretion); we are better off without a whole lot of these (WP is not wikt afterall). Gotitbro (talk) 12:52, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: Stewmuhn appears to be on an ethnic POVPUSH spree, apparently also IP socking, please see if you can keep an eye on their edits especially at Atiśa, Śāntarakṣita, Tilopa, Naropa, Chandragomin, Jadunath Sarkar. Gotitbro (talk) 11:53, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Please keep an eye on IPs from this range in Japan. This is an LTA User:Shumon 169 (including his recent sock User:Banglardhonn). Their POV is that everything done by Hindus of Bengal is Indian and not Bengali, but everything done by Muslims of Bangladesh is Bengali. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:14, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

It was later found that the oldest ID is this LTA. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:17, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: Thanks for pointing me to that. I had encountered that range before and was suspicious of it being used for IP socking, this confirms it, will be on the watchout. Gotitbro (talk) 19:56, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

What do you think of this? We had a discussion/consensus here, and it was linked in AP's t/p. Do you think a similar arrangement like this lead sentence would be better? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:26, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: That was against consensus and carte blanche applications of WP policies and guidelines do not override local consensus.

Firstly, as had been stated in that discussion there is no single source confirming his citizenship (vague mentions of residing in Canada and "Canadian" do not suffice, and considering his residence began there only some years ago I would not be surprised if he actually is still not a citizen, as seen in the example of Sidhu Moosewala who was an expatriate there but not a citizen).

Secondly, even if citizenship is confirmed "Indian-born" in the lead is perfectly fine, considering his significant period of life and career being mainstays therein.

WP:ETHNICITY is not a blanket policy to be fundamentalist about citizenship either, if local consensus decides otherwise we follow that. See also for e.g. Salman Rushdie (the recent discussion at the Talk page is particularly helpful), Albert Einstein among numerous other examples. Gotitbro (talk) 13:19, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Yup.. on a related note, what would be your opinion on this recent change. Me, admin Cyphoidbomb and another user had a consensus in 2019 and I was able to prove that Aujla had a Canadian PR and not a citizenship, hence the lead sentence should mention "Indian". It has been quite sometime now though. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:33, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: If it is provable that the citizenship status has not changed, it (hyphen mentions of other nationalities) should not go in the lead at all (WP:NATIONALITY). Especially when consensus exists for the same as well; if no new sources shed a different light on the citizenship status the passage of time since the consensus is no reason for discarding it. Gotitbro (talk) 15:32, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

I wasn't able to find anything on his citizenship in recent sources. A few that I've seen is regurgitating the same PR thing I had written in 2019. Perhaps I should revert it. Thanks for you inputs. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:56, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: Have a look at Lovemeloveme247, appears to be another sock of Shumon 169 with the same Bangladesh POVPUSH with poor sources. An SPI might be in order, do let me know if you proceed on it (as you are better familiarized with case). Thanks. Gotitbro (talk) 16:46, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

I filed an SPI a month ago [40], CU was declined :(. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:41, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: Ah, good to see that you had noticed the shenanigans. Behavioural check is still pending, and should in earnestness turn out to be positive. In the meantime keep an eye on this account which seems to have been very disruptive recently. Gotitbro (talk) 17:51, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Last time I was able to get those socks blocked rather easily. Looks like we'd need "strong evidence". - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:57, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Have a look at this, the nationality part. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:15, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Does not appear to have ever been a British citizen (at least not from the sources extant in the article; that he carried a Canadian passport was added by me from a source already present in the article). And his reception of other citizenships is not clear (i.e. Canada (when he got it/relinquished it); Pakistan (from birth/otherwise)).

His ancestry is already presented in the lead (that of his parents), the citizenship details which are not clear are better taken up in the body, rather than a pithy insertion in the lead (of "British") and changing the infobox template to a generalized one simply for the purposes of having a citizenship parameter. Gotitbro (talk) 13:50, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Have a look at this ID, someone with a clear political/separatist agenda, obvious with such a declaration. I've opened an SPI case. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:29, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: "Western Southeast Asia" is exclusively used by ethno nationalists in Northeast India who have invented this term to completely disassociate the region from India and should caution one against whoever is using it. Have come across such single-purpose WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS users in the past. Let us see where the SPI goes. Gotitbro (talk) 12:42, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

I've opened an SPI here, involving the guy who reverted your edits. Also have a look at this. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:16, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Interesting explains the tendentious editing here especially by a new account. Also I believe I had come across BangaloreNorth or a sock in the past, thanks for starting this SPI. Cheers. Gotitbro (talk) 11:53, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

OK, the new one got blocked. Banrevert? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:54, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

One of those Nepali-POV-pushing IP socks? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:24, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: Good catch, mostly likely IP socking by Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Admirenepal. Have warned the IP (likely of no use but still), looks like there are a host of other sock edits from the same range, looking into them. Gotitbro (talk) 13:27, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Possible POV [41]. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 20:38, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

When there is an ongoing discussion active discussion on a topic, a consensus should always be sought first. In-betweening changes is not how it works. Gotitbro (talk) 21:52, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Remember this one? Back after 2 years, creating unnecessary POV redirects again. Also note the POV in the comment section. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:55, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I do. Very disruptive, while the redirects were really not a problem, his moves and deliberate insertions of archaic/non-English Portuguese spellings for contemporary and historical topics have been especially problematic. Never got around to cleaning them up.

That comment is a classic WP:ASPERSIONS case (further hinting at a WP:NOTHERE attitude). If any edits are pursued by the editor in that interest they should be seen in light of his past behaviour. Gotitbro (talk) 10:09, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

A POV pusher [42]. I've fixed some of the pages after their edits. Not sure about this and this (administered part is kinda OK because of the site wide policy, but rearrangement is a bit problematic, while Hindi should be first, Urdu would father down the line considering the number of songs in each language). - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 19:03, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: That Adnan Sami edit was clearly disruptive POVPUSH, to disassociate his maternal origin from India. Nida Fazli worked in Bollywood aka "Hindi cinema" and is well known for his work there, that removal was also disruptive. Gotitbro (talk) 19:32, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

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Baba Ramdev

Hi, Gotitbro. You're right, sorry. And of course using "Ramdev Pir" is better still, and clarifies it. Thank you. Bishonen | tålk 11:12, 29 October 2023 (UTC).

@Bishonen: No issues. But I should note that Pir has a similar meaning to that of saint (perhaps covered by MOS:HON). A move/cleanup might be needed further. Gotitbro (talk) 11:20, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

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Double redirects

It appears that you created a bunch of redirects to the miscapitalized redirect List of Law enforcement agencies in India. I fixed them to go direct to Law enforcement in India. Dicklyon (talk) 19:53, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

By the way, there's a daily report that leads me to notice such things, as Wikipedia:Database reports/Linked miscapitalizations. Dicklyon (talk) 20:00, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Prajapati (novel)

Hi Gotitbro, I've done a major job on this one; I've removed much of the uncited material per WP:VERIFY; some uncited text remains but I think that's quite germane to the subject so I've tagged it with {{cn}}. Much of what I removed was off-topic ramblings. The plot section is still a bit waffly but I didn't want to inadvertently remove important material.

On another note, please archive your talk page; it's very long and difficult to navigate. If you're uncertain how to do that, please see Help:Archiving a talk page. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 06:47, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, will have to see about the removed trial material (believe some if it was in the footnoote refs). About archiving, will get to it in time. Gotitbro (talk) 07:02, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

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Confusing edit

Why did you add this category: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Tamil-language_websites&diff=0&oldid=954212418 ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:11, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

@Koavf: Following precedence with how mass-media is categorized for Indian languages (cf. Category:Tamil-language mass media); the populated articles also pertaining as such. Gotitbro (talk) 18:14, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Why are they categorized as Indian and not Sri Lankan? ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:24, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Sure, feel free to add that but Tamil-language media in Sri Lanka (and outside of India generally) is not really prolific and did not appear relevant enough to me when I added the cat. Gotitbro (talk) 18:28, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

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Eros International plc

Hi Gotitbro, I've moved two paragraphs from the lede / header to the article's talk page; these deal with a successor company that has its own article. The removal hasn't broken any named references and this material could probably be used at the successor company's article. Good luck with the article.

On another note, your talk page is very long and difficult to navigate. Please consider archiving it, or at least removing some of the outdated bot notices. If you don't know how to archive your talk page, see Help:Archiving a talk page. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 23:00, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

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Requesting some article expansion help

Greetings @Gotitbro

Hi, I am User:Bookku, On Wikipedia I engage in, finding information and knowledge gap areas in Wikipedia and promoting expansion of related drafts and articles. Came across your user profile (from article history Homi Adajania) .

Requesting your visit to My Choice (2015 film) (still a draft in my userspace) and help expand the topic areas if you find topic interesting. Wish you very happy Wikipedia editing.

Thanks and warm regards

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Circular redirects

Hello, Gotitbro,

You made some circular redirects so that NTR Telugu Desam Party was redirected to Telugu Desam Party (Lakshmi Parvathi) which was redirected back to NTR Telugu Desam Party. I couldn't figure out what the actual target article was supposed to be here so I deleted them. There was another instance where you had Brahmāstra Part One Shiva redirected to Brahmastra Part One Shiva which was redirected back to Brahmāstra Part One Shiva but I was able to figure out that the actual redirect target page was supposed to be Brahmāstra: Part One – Shiva so I corrected both of them. Please be careful when you create redirects so that this doesn't happen. I don't know how this IP editor even found these redirect mistakes because they would just have been redirected back and forth indefinitely. When you create a new redirect, make sure that it isn't pointing to another redirect page. What I think happened is that you copied and pasted the wrong page title so, after creating a redirect, before leaving the page, make sure it is pointing to the right location. I have a script I installed that shows all redirect pages in green colored font so it is easy to see what type of page it is by looking at the page title. Thank you very much. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:00, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi Liz, the redirect target was supposed to be NTR Telugu Desam Party (Lakshmi Parvathi) (the redirects being aids for related search terms for the party Telugu Desam Party and the politician Lakshmi Parvathi). Redirects do show in yellow in articles for me, don't remember due to which gadget, but looks like it does not work on the redirect pages; will take a look at your script.

Thanks Gotitbro (talk) 04:13, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Double redirects

Hello,

You've recently created a lot of double redirects, most related to China and India joint topics. Please make sure you are checking if the target is a redirect when making these! ~ Eejit43 (talk) 17:45, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

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Redirects

Hi--I don't understand the redirect, which goes to Hariharnagar 1‎, which goes to Harihar Nagar 1, which goes to In Harihar Nagar. Can you explain, or can you remove the double redirect? Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:25, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi Drmies,

This is the first part of the Harihar Nagar film series, followed by 2 Harihar Nagar and In Ghost House Inn. See List of Indian film series.

Cheers Gotitbro (talk) 16:29, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Why are you making redirects to redirects? Drmies (talk) 16:48, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

@Drmies: It was for the sake of convenience when creating multiple redirects. I thought it would not be an issue (resolution by bot?); if it creates problems I will try and redirect directly to the targets. Gotitbro (talk) 16:57, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Double redirect

Can you please double check that the redirects you're creating point to articles rather than other redirects? I have fixed Kannadasan Nagar and C. Arun Pandian for now. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 21:00, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Looks like I tend trouble page reviewers, I will try to do that. Thanks. Gotitbro (talk) 21:04, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Reverting Fair edits

Hey, what's the problem with u bro, why are u undoing my edits which has proper reference!? রিসভ (talk) 17:13, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

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Disambiguation pages

Please do not add random geographical names into disambiguation pages as you did in Laks and other pages. Please read WP:DAB and MOS:DAB for the guidelines about purpose and content of these pages. If they are cluttered with varoust things, they become difficult for navigation. - Altenmann >talk

@Altenmann: I see, breaking down to components was not the best for dab. Thanks. But I have restored some see also links where they are clearly alternative spellings. Best. Gotitbro (talk) 20:21, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Indian aviation categories should surely only be for real events

I don’t understand why you are adding them to articles which are about myths or pseudoscience. Doug Weller talk 20:38, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

@Doug Weller: But is it still not a part of aviation history or aviation in India? Anyhow I did try to find relevant categories for unverified aviation claims but could not, so added the closest ones (after reading the Talk page dicussion on a no to bio cats).

I still think something related to aviation should go in the cats, maybe Category:Aviation in India, as it is certainly a topic of discussion in that area whether veritable or not. Though if this is against any policy or otherwise not allowed under WP:FRINGE, I defer to your removals. These were only good faith edits to add categories on what was clearly an uncategorized article.

Cheers Gotitbro (talk) 21:07, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm sure they were good faith edits. I suggest you ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aviation. Doug Weller talk 07:12, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Categories

Please be a little more circumspect with your categorization. I have just removed a number of bad categories from Shivkar Bapuji Talpade and Vaimanika Shastra. To be of any use, categories need to be precise: you cannot treat them like a see also section. Vanamonde93 (talk) 20:29, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

I see, added the controversy cats as these tend to appear in "hidden history" tracts over the internet; understand if these might not be appropriate. Also the UFO cat already existed in the article (only made it more precise); so I have no original input as for that. Gotitbro (talk) 22:04, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

The issue is with calling it a controversy related to Hinduism, or a conspiracy theory. We can't use terminology in the categories that isn't supported by sourced text in the body (at a minimum, there's also WP:CATDEF to consider). Vanamonde93 (talk) 23:38, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Double redirects

Hey, I just noticed you've created a few redirects recently. You might want to double-check the targets because a few are turning out as double redirects. TornadoLGS (talk) 20:46, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

You still seem to be creating a lot of double redirects, which should be avoided. TornadoLGS (talk) 01:48, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Convenience got the better of me. Will try and avoid. Gotitbro (talk) 01:50, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Honestly, I've I'm making a bunch of redirects to the same pages, I'd just have one for the main page on my clipboard. TornadoLGS (talk)

About redirect categorization

Hey Gotitbro, please make sure you're adding relevant redirect categories when creating redirects, which is a required step per WP:REDCAT, especially considering the volume of redirects you're making. Your edit filter log shows that you've created hundreds of uncategorized redirects in the last few days alone. Let me know if you have any questions. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 01:29, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Oh, I see. Thanks for the heads up. Just finishing up some tasks. Gotitbro (talk) 01:35, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

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Dowry Kalyanam

Should this even be in the category Censored films? Because I thought the director circumvented 87 cuts by adding new dialogue: [43]. Kailash29792 (talk) 17:45, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

@Kailash29792: Censorship also goes beyond mere bans and denial of certification, when extensive self-censorship is mandated by authorities, that is one form of it as well. Gotitbro (talk) 17:50, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

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Cast sections

Is it okay to replace the cast sections references with the OTT end credits reference for the film i.e. Hotstar in a few months? DareshMohan (talk) 03:30, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

@DareshMohan: Primary sources should generally only be used when secondary or tertiary sources are not readily available (mostly the case with older or smaller films).

Particularly when cast sections become character descriptive (beyond mere name dropping), references where these characters are actually detailed should be used. Gotitbro (talk) 03:45, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. Many Indian films' sourced cast sections' sources were removed after release although they shouldn't. I added references and descriptions to Ayalaan but it was reverted maybe cause the sources weren't reliable. [44]. DareshMohan (talk) 06:21, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

I do not want to discuss this source further because I consider it confusing.

References

Let's break up the sentences.

• Some scenes would definitely be more impactful if we are shooting it in Hindi. → What it says: So if they shoot in future.
• So we are shooting it in two languages. But for the most part it's a Telugu film → Decides that they are shooting.
• Original research: The director lied in their interview to please Hindi audience (1/2 of India) and didn't follow through. See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Film#Indian_director_calling_film_bilingual_when_evidence_is_against_it.. DareshMohan (talk) 06:41, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

  @DareshMohan: Better yet, just put the whole quote in the article itself and let the WP:READER decide, we need not bother with paraphrasing then.

  Though I would note that your reading of the quote here is not correct. There is no future movement implied by the quote, it is in active voice, the "if" here akin to saying "if I do this correctly" while being enagaged in an act already, the next sentence further clarifies this as "shooting" is also present continuous. Anyhow we are diverting from the topic, put the quote in and be done with it.

  As for your above comment about the removal of references, yes it does appear to be a case of poor sources as Kailash has still retained some references in that edit. Gotitbro (talk) 10:56, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

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Your edit on Ehd-e-Wafa.

Hi. Hope tou will be fine. You recently removed a statement about the reception of the series due to being unreferenced. But, the text you removed was just the concised version of the Reception section in the article, where all the necessary references that support this statement are present. Now, I have added the text more similar to the section. Hope, you will not mind it and will get my point. Thanks. 39.34.187.248 (talk) 06:22, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

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Vietnam Veedu

I am not sure it should belong under Category:Vietnam War films since, besides the titular house being named after the Vietnam War, there's nothing else about the war in the film. I may be wrong, but is this enough to qualify? Kailash29792 (talk) 09:57, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

@Kailash29792: My assumption was that the war is actually discussed in the film (in one form or another). If that isn't the case, the cat can be removed. Gotitbro (talk) 10:27, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Andhagan

Based on this, should it be added to Category:Music controversies? Kailash29792 (talk) 10:42, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

@Kailash29792: That category is better limited to music related articles, in this case perhaps if a soundtrack article is separately created. Though do note that the alteration of an artist's work without their permission can also come under plagiarism (but in this it would appear that his work has been replaced entirely and he is only given a false attribution). Gotitbro (talk) 17:15, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Although not illegal since the record label is the copyright holder, it was still unethical to alter SaNa's composition without his permission. This is like the films THX 1138, American Graffiti, Batman Forever and Justice League which were noticeably edited against the directors' will, although since there's no category for such works, I'll leave it at that. The only solution for Andhagan I agree is a soundtrack article, if only there were enough sources to warrant one. Kailash29792 (talk) 02:57, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

@Kailash29792: tr:Kaderimin Oyunu (film), this film is apparently based on an Indian (Hindi?) film, atleast if you go by user reviews on Turkish film websites (Sinema Turk) and the cats on trwiki . But I am unable to find or think of an Indian film with a similar plot.

See the plot at Sinema Turk (the review by user 't_rex' goes into further detail). Does the plot remind you of something similar? Here is the film on YouTube. Do ping anyone else who might be able to help.

Thanks. Gotitbro (talk) 10:56, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

The plot sounds familiar, though I can't remember where I first saw this. Kailash29792 (talk) 11:05, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

@Kailash29792 and DareshMohan: We are aware of the tendency to affix film titles to [stage] names of actors in Tamil cinema (and Indian cinema generally); I have also discovered some great films/characters (performances)/actors by looking into those titles (Aadukalam and Aadukalam Naren and Aadukalam Murugadoss come to mind). I was wondering which Indian film's title has been taken up the most as a stage name (by different actors etc). Niche question but appreciate any insight. Thanks. Gotitbro (talk) 06:27, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

[45] Vennira Aadai was used in three names Vennira Aadai Srikanth, Vennira Aadai Nirmala and Vennira Aadai Moorthy.

Kaderimin Oyunu might be a remake of the short story White Nights, which was remade as Chhalia. DareshMohan (talk) 08:19, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

Vennira Aadai is an interesting example, do you know of any others where the titles been taken up two or more actors. About Chhalia, love triangle but I do not see many similarities between it and the Turkish film (even considering it an adaptation of "White Nights" is being charitable).

PS: Sorry for the late repl, got caught up with a few things.

Thanks for the help. Gotitbro (talk) 09:57, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

@DareshMohan: Forgot to ping, :). Gotitbro (talk) 16:48, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Priya Varrier

Hi, Gotitbro, thanks for your note at Talk:Priya Varrier. I didn't realize the talkpage didn't come along (as it should have done) when the redirect became an article. I've redirected it as per your request. Bishonen | tålk 08:35, 28 July 2024 (UTC).

@Bishonen: Priya Varrier too needs to be redirected to Priya Prakash Varrier. Currently a salted redlink. Gotitbro (talk) 13:41, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Sorry. When you said "please redirect this page", I guess I thought you were just talking about the page you were on. Or maybe I didn't really think, because the situation was pretty obvious. :-) Done. Bishonen | tålk 14:48, 28 July 2024 (UTC).

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Misleading categorisation

Today I've noticed you categorising a whole range of articles as related to the Panchatantra, many of which do not mention that work and in two cases specifically deny that there is a connection. Please explain this conduct, otherwise I will advise Administrators of what looks very like disruptive behaviour. Sweetpool50 (talk) 20:40, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

Please always WP:Assume Good Faith, I was only populating a newly created category by finding related links to it. Most of categorizations were valid, a lot of your reverts were incorrect and did not either check pipelinks or alternative names/spellings of the work within the article.

This is by no means disruptive and to threaten admin action over such a minor editorial dispute is unbecoming. Gotitbro (talk) 20:49, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

If an article makes no mention of the work under which you categorise it, then your edits are neither minor nor do they merit assumption of good faith. I'm reporting you for disruption. Sweetpool50 (talk) 21:05, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

I repeat most of your reverts were simply incorrect, you can file frivolous reports assuming bad faith (when none existed) but that won't get you anywhere. Gotitbro (talk) 03:39, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

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SPI

Hi, I saw that you filed SPI at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Fancy vibēs, I filed a SPI before I saw yours at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Anujror against the same suspected users, perhaps we should merge the evidence. Ratnahastin (talk) 15:42, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

@Ratnahastin: Fell free to merge, I just filed that at the last master I remembered. Gotitbro (talk) 15:49, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

I just remembered that only SPI clerks can merge/move SPIs, therefore I think I won't be able to do it. Ratnahastin (talk) 16:23, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

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Oh, I see. Thanks for the heads up. Gotitbro (talk) 00:09, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for adding more categories to FOOian scholars of Buddhism

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Speedy deletion nomination of The Hundred-Foot Journey (film) (soundtrack)

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"Billy Mandy Aur Life Mein Haddi" listed at Redirects for discussion

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