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Help needed at Abu Lu'lu'a Firuz, re addition of Persian name and concerns of circular sourcing

Your input would be appreciated at Talk:Abu Lu'lu'a Firuz#Sources for the name Piruz Nahavandi. Summaries of the dispute and discussion thread may be found here. Thanks! ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 15:24, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi Apaugasma. Weird, the article wasn't part of my watchlist anymore. I have a lot of balls in the air atm, I might join the discussion. HistoryofIran (talk) 15:53, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Orontes I

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Scythian did not left any written sources

Herodotus write some of the scytian words and names but they are not translatable enough to any iranic language. Heredotus also writes that scythians and persian could not understand each other even they are only seperated few hundreds before according to our hypothesis. Their gods name completly different than other indu-european gods. For example even indian gods names have similarities with slavic and hellenic god. But scythian gods are not. Kaan C3Iik (talk) 08:33, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia is based on WP:RS, not your personal intrepetation of a primary source (WP:PRIMARY). HistoryofIran (talk) 12:04, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, what primary source is have a proof that they are speaking iranic language ? All the sources that claiming scytians speaking iranic language are based on opinion. None of them directing a writing left from scytians. Kaan C3Iik (talk) 12:57, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Whether thats true or not, your intrepetation is still irrelevant, you are not a historian. HistoryofIran (talk) 13:07, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

So you are sayin that I can edit it via showing Heredotus Histories as a source because he is historian or any other historian right ? Kaan C3Iik (talk) 13:14, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

No, please re-read everything I said and read the links I posted. HistoryofIran (talk) 13:31, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

And especially this one WP:PSTS. HistoryofIran (talk) 13:37, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Indian History

Hello HistoryofIran, as usual, there's an issue with Indian history. You might have encountered those modern unreliable sources claiming that the Guptas annexed the Oxus Valley and Balkh, among other claims involving the Huns and others. Although you've addressed these inaccuracies in the articles, the information is still present in the short description category of the Gupta Empire page. Could you please take a look and also review the Talk section of that page? DeepstoneV (talk) 12:28, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

@DeepstoneV: Another brand new user making the same disruptive war-related edits and same dishonest arguments, no doubt another member of the Discord [1]. And they are citing Kalidasa, who is not WP:RS per WP:AGEMATTERS, WP:PST and WP:SCHOLARSHIP HistoryofIran (talk) 12:43, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Recently, I have been targeted by some brand new accounts on Wikidia who are engaged in the sockpuppetry and meatpuppetry and have Multiple Insta and Dicord groups for these purposes. Their main purpose is to create propagated and fictional victories of Indian kingdoms, as you know. One of them is Based Kashmiri who made a fictional battle article about the Pala-Tibetan war and uploaded a edit suddenly to his Instagram page while it was still in draft form. Altho the article selected for deletion by ImperialAficionado.

To understand the mentality of these people, I recommend you watch these videos. DeepstoneV (talk) 11:16, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Erhm, I appreciate the info, but you're not allowed to post those links per WP:OUTING, so I removed them for your own sake. Can you go into more detail regarding these activities? After all, you probably know of my ANI report regarding meatpuppetry in India-related articles [2]. Feel free to post your evidence there, would be much appreciated. --HistoryofIran (talk) 11:33, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Another meatpuppet or sockpuppet account, Theophilusbisio, has joined Wikipedia with the same motive as those of SudSahab, Malik Al Hind etc DeepstoneV (talk) 14:07, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello, HistoryofIran. I am DeepstoneV. I made this account to leave you one last message and to revert some edits. I was the sock master, but my intentions were only to make Indian Wikipedia professional, prevent the fantasies these bigots create, and ban them. I often clashed with them, banned many, and you can still see my impact. Based Kashmiri has nominated every article I created for deletion and spends all his time reverting my edits. I guarantee you that these individuals are also sockpuppets and meatpuppets, and these bigots will mess up and ruin Wikipedia far more.

Based Kashmiri reverted my constructive edits at Campaigns of Nader Shah and selected it for deletion.

Best of luck to you, brother, whenever you face them. I am leaving Wikipedia forever now. Goodbye. Patience54 (talk) 13:15, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

References

New Sabuktigin coin image

Hey @HistoryofIran, would you mind adding a tag for the original work for Coin_of_the_Ghaznavid_amir_Sabuktigin,_citing_the_Samanid_amir_Nuh_II_as_his_overlord._Date_unknown,_minted_at_Ghazna.jpg? The FAC reviewer said it needs one and I'm kind of dull regarding the tags in the commons. Amir Ghandi (talk) 18:34, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Never mind, I had misunderstood what they meant, added it myself. Cheers! Amir Ghandi (talk) 18:37, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

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Recent additions to the article about Samudragupta

Hello HistoryofIran, hope you are doing well. I've recently just noticed new additions to the article about Samudragupta talking about his "conflict with the Sasanian Empire", first of all, the entire section only cites one source from a publisher called "Pen and Sword" and the source as a whole is rather dubious. The entire section cites page 322 of the source as a reference for Samudragupta's alleged conflict with the Sasanians, however, the author themself has stated that they "would suggest" Shapur II's conflict was with the Sasanians without any factual backing (which is a huge red flag). I did not want to hear it just yet and was looking forward to your opinion. Cheers! Salman Cooper Mapping (talk) 21:36, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing this to me. The user who added it and their Discord group [3] is notorious for misusing sources. Pretty source the source is also not WP:RS, or at the very least low quality, as I recall it got removed from several Sasanian-Roman related articles. HistoryofIran (talk) 21:45, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Yup, not WP:RS [4] HistoryofIran (talk) 22:04, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Mirza Mohammad-Ali Khan Shirazi

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Mughal Empire has an RfC

Mughal Empire has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 02:13, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Flemmish Nietzsche, but I don't think I'm knowledgeable enough to take part. HistoryofIran (talk) 02:23, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Battle of Jaxartes

Could you provide any contemporary source where this is a macedonian victory? HiddenRealHistory19 (talk) 02:48, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

"Wikipedia is based on WP:RS, not your personal intrepetation of a primary source"

I see you used the same tactic on another person? And when he questions you furhter asking for the primary source youre talking about you simply answer; "youre not a historian". Isnt that the point of Wikipedia where everybody can edit as long as its proven/properly sourced? Weird attitude you have brother. Also there was no primary source to begin with? And its not his "personal interpretations" there is littlery no source there at all!! HiddenRealHistory19 (talk) 03:03, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

And what person did I use my “tactic” against? You do realize that “tactic” and “weird attitude” is called following the rules of this website? And if you dont want to do that, then you should perhaps reflect if this site is the right place for you. Please read WP:RS, WP:SYNTH, WP:CITE, WP:VER, WP:PST and WP:SCHOLARSHIP. HistoryofIran (talk) 03:43, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

My god and he does it again... youre just like a white police officer with a black man in the 50s of Usa! 😝🤣. And you know very well who you used this tactic against. Some dude called "Kaan C3lik". Lets see your guys's conversation. Shall we? ;)

(Kaan C3lik makes statement)

Historyofiran:

Kaan C3lik answers: Yeah, what primary source is have a proof that they are speaking iranic language ? All the sources that claiming scytians speaking iranic language are based on opinion. None of them directing a writing left from scytians. (Again making statement and asking for the primary source youre talking about)

You: "Whether thats true or not, your intrepetation is still irrelevant, you are not a historian."

..... I have no words for this?🤣

"Wether that's true or not", well until you provide evidence you will never know its not true!! There is no proof out there that arent based on opinions. Isnt wikipedia supposed to take sourced which are objective???? And its not even "his intreperarion". He litterly just makes a statement and asked a question afterwards. You only answer with the law card, weird behavior this is!😝 HiddenRealHistory19 (talk) 17:38, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Forgot to add at the start:

Historyofiran: " HiddenRealHistory19 (talk) 17:40, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

" HiddenRealHistory19 (talk) 17:40, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

What a strange response. Keep your thoughts about me to yourself (WP:ASPERSIONS and WP:NPA). I communicate with users almost everyday, do you expect me to remember this particularly case? Also, we dont need your cherrypicked intreperation of the discussion, just link the discussion so everyone can see the comments fully. HistoryofIran (talk) 19:32, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

I need your help

Hi, I created a wiki page about Dasini tribe. But I don't know how to edit page information. Will you please help me and edit it :). And please link it to Kurdish and Arabic Wikipedia if you do so. Thanks. Jackhanma69 (talk) 00:18, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello. Sorry, but I don't know anything about this tribe, so I can't be of help. I have linked the article to its articles in other Wikis. HistoryofIran (talk) 01:02, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

i really appreciate it for linking it. Once again thanks. Jackhanma69 (talk) 02:23, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

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ottoman empire

you deleted, historical sources about the indian sufis who went to ottoman empire and established sufi lodges there? you against their descendntas? Princess Adventure (talk) 22:36, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Yes, my life is dedicated to being against them and certainly not because those "historical sources" are random websites which are not WP:RS - something which I mentioned in my edit summary, which you didn't bother reading, instead resorting to accusations here and there [5]. HistoryofIran (talk) 22:45, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Orontes I

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Congrats!

I saw that you got Orontes I to GA status! Very nicely done! Good job! --Kansas Bear (talk) 23:24, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much Kansas Bear! About time I got that article to GA. HistoryofIran (talk) 00:39, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

An inquiry about Zazas and the rest of West Iranics

Hello, we are researching the origins of certain West Iranic ethnic groups and are interested in Zaza people specifically. Unfortunately, there is a lot of politicization of the information available online about ethnic groups and Zaza people get their fair share of misinformation and are pushed into certain politically created umbrella terms. I am very inspired by your work and the research you make. I was wondering if you could provide us sources about West Iranic ethnic groups and Zazas specifically in this regard. Especially with how many surrounding nationalist groups spread misinformation about our ethnicity, we thought it would help immensely to cooperate for the sake of objective history writing. Martinbreu.89 (talk) 00:03, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi Martinbreu.89. Thanks for the kind words, but I unfortunately don't know much about the Zazas. This section [6] has plenty of sources, perhaps it can be of use? HistoryofIran (talk) 01:23, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Maybe you have further sources on how the name “Kurd” was given to any other nomadic group with a similar lifestyle? Martinbreu.89 (talk) 12:28, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

I do, but please be mindful of WP:SYNTH when reading these;

"Minorsky noted that the ethnonym "kurd" did not have a generally accepted etymology and suggested it was a generic term for "nomad", pointing to Strabo's inclusion of the Cyrtians alongside other "migrant" and "predatory" tribes, all of "the same character", which Minorsky took to mean that they all had a nomadic life style." " - p. 112, Potts, Daniel T. (2014). Nomadism in Iran: From Antiquity to the Modern Era. London and New York: Oxford University Press.

"It should be remembered that “Kurd” in the sources of the 4th-5th/10th-11th centuries refers to all the transhumants of the Zagros region including the Lors." - Ch. Bürgel and R. Mottahedeh, ʿAŻOD-AL-DAWLA, ABŪ ŠOJĀʾ FANNĀ ḴOSROW, Iranica

"As is well-known, the term Kurd had a rather indiscriminate use in the early mediaeval Arabo-Persian historiography and literature, with an explicit social connotation, meaning “nomad, tent-dweller, shepherd” (Minorsky 1931: 294; idem 1940: 144-145; idem 1943: 75; Izady 1986: 16; Asatrian 2001: 47ff.), as well as “robber, highwayman, oppressor of the weak and treacherer” (Driver 1922b: 498ff)." - p. 79, Asatrian, Garnik (2009). "Prolegomena to the Study of the Kurds". Iran and the Caucasus. 13

"Most conclusive of all is the fact that Kurd in the older Persian or Arab sense meant simply nomad with no particular ethnic connotations. In this case, Ardavan V's letter becomes more insulting, since in effect he is calling Ardashir an ignorant nomad" - p. 48, J. Limbert. (1968). The Origins and Appearance of the Kurds in Pre-Islamic Iran. Iranian Studies

"In medieval Arabic sources, the term kurd (plural akrād) denotes Iranian nomads, or nomads who were neither Arab nor Turkic, and is applied to people well outside the current region of Kurdistan. The Kurds as we now know them are made up almost certainly of a variety of different peoples, among whom Iranian tribesmen have been predominant." - p. 66, Manz, B. (2021). The Rise of New Peoples and Dynasties. In Nomads in the Middle East (Themes in Islamic History, pp. 55-80). Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.

"Then follows the description of Ardašīr’s triumph over Ardawān in the battle of Hormuzagān (see HORMOZDGĀN) and his victorious campaign against the Kurds (a term that in pre-Islamic times designated the various nomadic lineages, rather than a specific ethnicity)." - C. G. CERETI, Iranica

"Tribes always have been a feature of Persian history, but the sources are extremely scant in reference to them since they did not 'make' history. The general designation 'Kurd' is found in many Arabic sources, as well as in Pahlavi book on the deeds of Ardashir the first Sassanian ruler, for all nomads no matter whether they were linguistically connected to the Kurds of today or not. The population of Luristan, for example, was considered to be Kurdish, as were tribes in Kuhistan and Baluchis in Kirman" - p. 111, Richard Frye, The Golden age of Persia, Phoneix Press, 1975. Second Impression December 2003.

"We thus find that about the period of the Arab conquest a single ethnic term Kurd (plur. Akrād ) was beginning to be applied to an amalgamation of Iranian or iranicised tribes. Among the latter, some were autochthonous (the Ḳardū; the Tmorik̲h̲/Ṭamurāyē in the district of which Alḳī = Elk was the capital; the Χοθᾱίται [= al-K̲h̲uwayt̲h̲iyya] in the canton of K̲h̲oyt of Sāsūn, the Orṭāyē [= al-Arṭān] in the bend of the Euphrates); some were Semites (cf. the popular genealogies of the Kurd tribes) and some probably Armenian (it is said that the Mamakān tribe is of Mamikonian origin)." - Kurds, Kurdistān, Encyclopaedia of Islam, Second Edition, Bois, Th., Minorsky, V. and MacKenzie, D.N. HistoryofIran (talk) 12:36, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for these great sources.

Could you possibly manage zazaic contributions for us? They are under enormous pressure from Kurdish nationalists who are trying to assimilate Zazas and their language. Accordingly, articles about Zaza personalities and the people are relegated by these nationalists. This would be a great help for a people whose language is threatened with extinction. Martinbreu.89 (talk) 17:40, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, but I can’t help. HistoryofIran (talk) 18:20, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

That's a shame, you would be doing us a great favor. Thanks anyway Martinbreu.89 (talk) 19:28, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Sasanian Kadagistan

Hey my bro how are you doing

It seems i found a source that says the Kadagistan as a sasanian provience was conquered by turkic khaganate between 570 to 581 after that the hephthalites revolted and in 589 it was reconquered by bahram chobin for short period

source: The Eastern Frontier: Limits of Empire in Late Antique and Early Medieval Central Asia Bloomsbury Publishing, p. 360 the Sasanians controlled the land to the north up to the Kuban valley. Thus the Türks soon reverted to military force. In 569–570 they launched a great military expedition against Sasanian Iran in which they conquered the territory of the former Hephthalite kingdom belonging to Iran in the form of vassal kingdoms and principalities. (The Sasanians were powerless to resist because they were also engaged in war against Byzantium.) Although there is no source that gives the details of the war waged by the Türks against Iran in 569–570, it is clear from the phrase Turkun wa Kabulu (The Türks and [the people of] Kabul), in a poem written between 575 and 580 by the Arab poetal-cAsha, that the Türk army was operating in the Kabul–Gandhara area in 570.3 3: Harmatta, 1962, p. 133, note 5

(however in wiki the case is different like: When Khosrow I died in 579, the Hephthalites of Tokharistan and Khotan took advantage of the situation to rebel against the Sasanians, but their efforts were obliterated by the Turks.)

I just want to know is it true? then edit the Kadagistan article. And if it's not then tell me why and better do a necessary work after that Twg7s7h (talk) 21:44, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello Twg7s7h, I'm doing good, hope the same goes for you.

source: The Eastern Frontier: Limits of Empire in Late Antique and Early Medieval Central Asia Bloomsbury Publishing, p. 360 the Sasanians controlled the land to the north up to the Kuban valley. Thus the Türks soon reverted to military force. In 569–570 they launched a great military expedition against Sasanian Iran in which they conquered the territory of the former Hephthalite kingdom belonging to Iran in the form of vassal kingdoms and principalities. (The Sasanians were powerless to resist because they were also engaged in war against Byzantium.) Although there is no source that gives the details of the war waged by the Türks against Iran in 569–570, it is clear from the phrase Turkun wa Kabulu (The Türks and [the people of] Kabul), in a poem written between 575 and 580 by the Arab poetal-cAsha, that the Türk army was operating in the Kabul–Gandhara area in 570.3 3: Harmatta, 1962, p. 133, note 5

Sorry what? Kadagistan is in Bactria, not the Kabul–Gandhara area. I don't what areas the author considers the Hephthalite kingdom to be, missing some context. It's been a long time, but I'm pretty sure Rezakhani is basing his info on newly found texts/coins in Bactria.

however in wiki the case is different like: When Khosrow I died in 579, the Hephthalites of Tokharistan and Khotan took advantage of the situation to rebel against the Sasanians, but their efforts were obliterated by the Turks.

I also don't know where you're quoting this from, it's not in Kadagistan.

I just want to know is it true? then edit the Kadagistan article. And if it's not then tell me why and better do a necessary work after that

Not sure I understand this? I have my own life and interests to tend to as well. Even if another source is discovered, that doesn't mean I just immediately start editing, that would be incredibly fatiguing. HistoryofIran (talk) 22:44, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Wow really great thanks

And you know what

I was in discuss and edit war on this map

Hope you can do something against that person and map

(If the turkic khghanate never annexe the bactria region on 570 which is i never heard that before like you i think) Twg7s7h (talk) 23:20, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

I think the Rezakhani mean was that turks annexe bactria (the Hephthalites) and turn into kabul-Gandhara Twg7s7h (talk) 23:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

So this is what it's about? Sorry I can't help. HistoryofIran (talk) 23:40, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

lol

Ok

But just can you give me the sources about bactria under sasanians before khosrow ii?

Cause you don't accepte that 570 Twg7s7h (talk) 23:42, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Here's Rezakhani [7]. HistoryofIran (talk) 23:47, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Thx a lot again you put your own time

just 2 think

Did you have time for sasanian evoulational map? That was a great idea i told you before

I think you didn't check Bogazicili edits in turkic people he removes some maps in history part

And if you open history part

The head of its is still big empty Twg7s7h (talk) 23:53, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

A map that shows how the borders of the Sasanian Empire changed throughout history? That is on the to do list, but it's in the last place if I'm going to be honest, I don't really have the biggest interest in pre-Islamic stuff right now. And as for Turkic peoples article, I'm stilling missing context on what the issue is, and I think it's better if you take it to Talk:Turkic peoples. Please also be aware of WP:CANVASS. HistoryofIran (talk) 23:58, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

haha pain...

No about that turkic people

I say that you know the history part of it?

When you open it it has a empty part that was a map before on it

And i cant edit that article to remove that little empty space i mean

And wait

Why you name Rezakhani in our speeches?

Cause the book i send was a unesco and another persons not rezakhani Twg7s7h (talk) 00:03, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Please take it to Talk:Turkic peoples. You asked me about a source regarding Bactria under the Sasanians and I gave you one. HistoryofIran (talk) 00:11, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

It's been a long time, but I'm pretty sure Rezakhani is basing his info on newly found texts/coins in Bactria

I thought you mean that book i send

No problem sorry

Forget about that turkic people i thing you don't get my words about

thx again your efforts on the wiki should be appreciated Twg7s7h (talk) 00:27, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Hey man how are you doing today

Sorry for bother you again

I found another source about gokturks annexe kadagistan (bactria region) in 570 to 581

Check this whats your opinion?

In AD 569-570 Turkic army launched a military expedition against Sasanian

Iran and conquered the territory of the former Hephthalite kingdom belonging to

Iran. In AD 570 the Turks were certainly operating in the Kabul-Gandhara area.

Source:

KURBANOV, AYDOGDY (2010)

"THE HEPHTHALITES: ARCHAEOLOGICAL AND HISTORICAL ANALYSIS" page 190

Look at the year of publication: 2010 Twg7s7h (talk) 21:19, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, but I have already made it clear that I want no part in your dispute at Commons in regards to that map. My response is pretty much the same as earlier. Also, please read WP:RS and WP:SCHOLARSHIP. HistoryofIran (talk) 21:41, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Yes i understand my work in that map is over

Just i send this cause of kadagistan

And just say do you think its true? Twg7s7h (talk) 00:27, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

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Category:Government of the Samanid Empire has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. NLeeuw (talk) 14:58, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

A gold mine full of problematic stuff

The article -stan is really bad and it needs a complete rewrite. I dropped editing it in April 2023. The article has become like a bloated dictionary page. IP users add/remove any information they want; e.g. some recent examples.[8][9][10][11][12]. The current state of article feels like a blog post representing opinion of users rather than the well-sourced and summarized content. @LouisAragon and Wikaviani: It could be interesting for you too. --Mann Mann (talk) 05:09, 12 June 2024 (UTC)