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Hello, I saw your message you left on the talk page. Apparently you did accuse me of removing sources, however those sources do not have proper citations. It is Wikipedia's code to use proper citations or else your sources will be marked as false sources. By the way, I am from Gujarat.
All of those sources have proper citations including of the reputed historian Satish Chandra [[User:RS6784|RS6784]] ([[User talk:RS6784#top|talk]]) 13:33, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
I am not accusing you, but telling you what you did on previous occasion is against wiki policy. You cannot remove any reference of eminent historians like Satish Chandra, Kishori Lal Saran etc from their book without any reasons. Nobody is accusing anyone, I just pointed out that removing sources mentioned from various books written by historians/writers goes against the policy of wiki. Different writers/historians have described Gujarat Sultanate with various origin. Let it remain there, no need to remove it. Wiki is not to push particular caste agenda
Thank you [[User:RS6784|RS6784]] ([[User talk:RS6784#top|talk]]) 13:40, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
And for you info, it doesn't matter from which place you belong to. The sources provided are from Historians and some of their words have also been cited. You can't just remove it to fit a particular perspective of yours. [[User:RS6784|RS6784]] ([[User talk:RS6784#top|talk]]) 13:52, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
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I removed them because apparently your sources were not relevant to the article. But now I read your article [[Gujarat Sultanate]], and it seems you did a better job this time. I am not doing any biases, the mistake was yours for not properly citing. You need to cite sentences which describe the claim.
== DO NOT remove any sources as you apparently did to the article Muzaffarids (Gujarat) ==
Hi there again. It seems you have removed sources of the Khatri Origin of the Gujarati Sultans when there were several and various sources proving the origins of the Sultans were Khatris
I haven't removed any source, but added various sources from Satish Chandra's book who is himself a khatri and a historian, along with Kishori Lal Saran and many more sources. It seems you did removed the references without any reason. I didn't removed anything but added the legitimate references [[User:RS6784|RS6784]] ([[User talk:RS6784#top|talk]]) 13:36, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
== DO NOT remove any sources as you apparently did to the article Muzaffarids (Gujarat) ==
[[File:Nuvola apps important.svg|25px|alt=Warning icon]] Hi, it seems you were the last person to have edited the page [[Muzaffarids (Gujarat)]] and you apparently removed sources describing the Khatri origin of the Gujarati Sultans. DO NOT continue to do this or you may end up being blocked from Wikipedia.
Thanks.
I didn't removed any source but you may get blocked if you keep on removing legitimate sources. [[User:RS6784|RS6784]] ([[User talk:RS6784#top|talk]]) 04:20, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
== Please redo adding the sources on the article Muzaffarids (Gujarat) ==
[[File:Nuvola apps important.svg|25px|alt=Warning icon]] Apparently you accused me earlier of writing the article on my perspective, but it seems you also removed sources which variously describe the Khatri origin of the Gujarati Sultans. PLEASE DO NOT remove any sources, and make sure related articles have a similar claim. The same sources from the article [[Gujarat Sultanate]] should also be in the article [[Muzaffarids (Gujarat)]] as both are related and correspond to each other.
I didn't removed any source despite the fact that there is simple error. Zafar Khan family was from Thanesar Haryana not Punjab: source clearly mentions it and even Aparna Kapadia accepts it on page 8. There were no Punjabi khatri in Haryana in those days. Tanka is not even a clan in that community, but it is a lower ( Gaurwa) division of kshatriya community of Haryana. Here the word kshatriya doesn't meant Punjabi khatri. All that claim is based on archived translated version from Urdu to English which makes Kshatriya sound as Khatri there. Even Punjabi khatri historian like Satish Chandra doesn't accept that he was Punjabi khatri.
Still, I didn't removed any source but just see what you did on the previous occassion by removing all the references. [[User:RS6784|RS6784]] ([[User talk:RS6784#top|talk]]) 04:13, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
== Please take a look at the article Gujarat Sultanate now. ==
Hello, I have corrected your mistakes by balancing out the sources from the article [[Gujarat Sultanate]], and have not removed any sources.
I was not removing sources, but restoring older edits. Apparently those new sources were not from the older edits that's why you thought I was removing them. DO NOT try to remove any sources regarding the Khatri claim.
== You are giving historian Satish Chandra as your defense, please explain about this source below ==
<ref>{{Cite book|last=Misra|first=S. C. (Satish Chandra)|url=http://archive.org/details/riseofmuslimpowe0000unse|title=The rise of Muslim power in Gujarat; a history of Gujarat from 1298 to 1442|date=1963|publisher=New York, Asia Pub. House|others=Internet Archive|pages=137|quote=Zafar Khan was not a foreign Muslim. He was a convert to Islam from a sect of the Khatris known as Tank.}}</ref>
That is why I said it should be written as various sources describing the dynasty "" . Pls understand this simple English. [[User:RS6784|RS6784]] ([[User talk:RS6784#top|talk]]) 04:02, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Satish Chandra is Punjabi khatri Historian. He knows better about his community than you and me. If that guy who was no love lost and has been biased towards his community didn't claimed Zafar Khan to be Punjbi khatri than that it is enough. Regarding Satish Chandra Mishra claim about khatri, it is all based on translation and archived version translation error from Urdu to English can result into such things. That is why other historians doesn't agree with it. Here it was kshatriya ( Mirat - i - Sikander source) not specifically Punjabi khatri.
Anyways both perspective are there on the page. [[User:RS6784|RS6784]] ([[User talk:RS6784#top|talk]]) 04:18, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
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== It is not just historian Satish Chandra, and please prove his Khatri origin ==
I may be wrong, I believe it was the user HamirKalchuri editing and removing the Khatri sources, but DO NOT make unsubstantiated claims about the origin of the historians now.
What ?? Satish Chandra is a Punjabi khatri writer from Pakistan who settled in Meerut area. What fact I wrote wrong here ? This is true.
Then why you were accusing me of removing things. [[User:RS6784|RS6784]] ([[User talk:RS6784#top|talk]]) 13:28, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
I am talking about Satish Chandra and not Satish Chandra Mishra. [[User:RS6784|RS6784]] ([[User talk:RS6784#top|talk]]) 13:29, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
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Fair okay thank you, will provide it [[User:RS6784|RS6784]] ([[User talk:RS6784#top|talk]]) 19:57, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
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Hello, I saw your message you left on the talk page. Apparently you did accuse me of removing sources, however those sources do not have proper citations. It is Wikipedia's code to use proper citations or else your sources will be marked as false sources. By the way, I am from Gujarat.
All of those sources have proper citations including of the reputed historian Satish Chandra [[User:RS6784|RS6784]] ([[User talk:RS6784#top|talk]]) 13:33, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
I am not accusing you, but telling you what you did on previous occasion is against wiki policy. You cannot remove any reference of eminent historians like Satish Chandra, Kishori Lal Saran etc from their book without any reasons. Nobody is accusing anyone, I just pointed out that removing sources mentioned from various books written by historians/writers goes against the policy of wiki. Different writers/historians have described Gujarat Sultanate with various origin. Let it remain there, no need to remove it. Wiki is not to push particular caste agenda
Thank you [[User:RS6784|RS6784]] ([[User talk:RS6784#top|talk]]) 13:40, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
And for you info, it doesn't matter from which place you belong to. The sources provided are from Historians and some of their words have also been cited. You can't just remove it to fit a particular perspective of yours. [[User:RS6784|RS6784]] ([[User talk:RS6784#top|talk]]) 13:52, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
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I removed them because apparently your sources were not relevant to the article. But now I read your article [[Gujarat Sultanate]], and it seems you did a better job this time. I am not doing any biases, the mistake was yours for not properly citing. You need to cite sentences which describe the claim.
== DO NOT remove any sources as you apparently did to the article Muzaffarids (Gujarat) ==
Hi there again. It seems you have removed sources of the Khatri Origin of the Gujarati Sultans when there were several and various sources proving the origins of the Sultans were Khatris
I haven't removed any source, but added various sources from Satish Chandra's book who is himself a khatri and a historian, along with Kishori Lal Saran and many more sources. It seems you did removed the references without any reason. I didn't removed anything but added the legitimate references [[User:RS6784|RS6784]] ([[User talk:RS6784#top|talk]]) 13:36, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
== DO NOT remove any sources as you apparently did to the article Muzaffarids (Gujarat) ==
[[File:Nuvola apps important.svg|25px|alt=Warning icon]] Hi, it seems you were the last person to have edited the page [[Muzaffarids (Gujarat)]] and you apparently removed sources describing the Khatri origin of the Gujarati Sultans. DO NOT continue to do this or you may end up being blocked from Wikipedia.
Thanks.
I didn't removed any source but you may get blocked if you keep on removing legitimate sources. [[User:RS6784|RS6784]] ([[User talk:RS6784#top|talk]]) 04:20, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
== Please redo adding the sources on the article Muzaffarids (Gujarat) ==
[[File:Nuvola apps important.svg|25px|alt=Warning icon]] Apparently you accused me earlier of writing the article on my perspective, but it seems you also removed sources which variously describe the Khatri origin of the Gujarati Sultans. PLEASE DO NOT remove any sources, and make sure related articles have a similar claim. The same sources from the article [[Gujarat Sultanate]] should also be in the article [[Muzaffarids (Gujarat)]] as both are related and correspond to each other.
I didn't removed any source despite the fact that there is simple error. Zafar Khan family was from Thanesar Haryana not Punjab: source clearly mentions it and even Aparna Kapadia accepts it on page 8. There were no Punjabi khatri in Haryana in those days. Tanka is not even a clan in that community, but it is a lower ( Gaurwa) division of kshatriya community of Haryana. Here the word kshatriya doesn't meant Punjabi khatri. All that claim is based on archived translated version from Urdu to English which makes Kshatriya sound as Khatri there. Even Punjabi khatri historian like Satish Chandra doesn't accept that he was Punjabi khatri.
Still, I didn't removed any source but just see what you did on the previous occassion by removing all the references. [[User:RS6784|RS6784]] ([[User talk:RS6784#top|talk]]) 04:13, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
== Please take a look at the article Gujarat Sultanate now. ==
Hello, I have corrected your mistakes by balancing out the sources from the article [[Gujarat Sultanate]], and have not removed any sources.
I was not removing sources, but restoring older edits. Apparently those new sources were not from the older edits that's why you thought I was removing them. DO NOT try to remove any sources regarding the Khatri claim.
== You are giving historian Satish Chandra as your defense, please explain about this source below ==
<ref>{{Cite book|last=Misra|first=S. C. (Satish Chandra)|url=http://archive.org/details/riseofmuslimpowe0000unse|title=The rise of Muslim power in Gujarat; a history of Gujarat from 1298 to 1442|date=1963|publisher=New York, Asia Pub. House|others=Internet Archive|pages=137|quote=Zafar Khan was not a foreign Muslim. He was a convert to Islam from a sect of the Khatris known as Tank.}}</ref>
That is why I said it should be written as various sources describing the dynasty "" . Pls understand this simple English. [[User:RS6784|RS6784]] ([[User talk:RS6784#top|talk]]) 04:02, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Satish Chandra is Punjabi khatri Historian. He knows better about his community than you and me. If that guy who was no love lost and has been biased towards his community didn't claimed Zafar Khan to be Punjbi khatri than that it is enough. Regarding Satish Chandra Mishra claim about khatri, it is all based on translation and archived version translation error from Urdu to English can result into such things. That is why other historians doesn't agree with it. Here it was kshatriya ( Mirat - i - Sikander source) not specifically Punjabi khatri.
Anyways both perspective are there on the page. [[User:RS6784|RS6784]] ([[User talk:RS6784#top|talk]]) 04:18, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
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== It is not just historian Satish Chandra, and please prove his Khatri origin ==
I may be wrong, I believe it was the user HamirKalchuri editing and removing the Khatri sources, but DO NOT make unsubstantiated claims about the origin of the historians now.
What ?? Satish Chandra is a Punjabi khatri writer from Pakistan who settled in Meerut area. What fact I wrote wrong here ? This is true.
Then why you were accusing me of removing things. [[User:RS6784|RS6784]] ([[User talk:RS6784#top|talk]]) 13:28, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
I am talking about Satish Chandra and not Satish Chandra Mishra. [[User:RS6784|RS6784]] ([[User talk:RS6784#top|talk]]) 13:29, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
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Fair okay thank you, will provide it [[User:RS6784|RS6784]] ([[User talk:RS6784#top|talk]]) 19:57, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
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Hello, I saw your message you left on the talk page. Apparently you did accuse me of removing sources, however those sources do not have proper citations. It is Wikipedia's code to use proper citations or else your sources will be marked as false sources. By the way, I am from Gujarat.
All of those sources have proper citations including of the reputed historian Satish Chandra [[User:RS6784|RS6784]] ([[User talk:RS6784#top|talk]]) 13:33, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
I am not accusing you, but telling you what you did on previous occasion is against wiki policy. You cannot remove any reference of eminent historians like Satish Chandra, Kishori Lal Saran etc from their book without any reasons. Nobody is accusing anyone, I just pointed out that removing sources mentioned from various books written by historians/writers goes against the policy of wiki. Different writers/historians have described Gujarat Sultanate with various origin. Let it remain there, no need to remove it. Wiki is not to push particular caste agenda
Thank you [[User:RS6784|RS6784]] ([[User talk:RS6784#top|talk]]) 13:40, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
And for you info, it doesn't matter from which place you belong to. The sources provided are from Historians and some of their words have also been cited. You can't just remove it to fit a particular perspective of yours. [[User:RS6784|RS6784]] ([[User talk:RS6784#top|talk]]) 13:52, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
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I removed them because apparently your sources were not relevant to the article. But now I read your article [[Gujarat Sultanate]], and it seems you did a better job this time. I am not doing any biases, the mistake was yours for not properly citing. You need to cite sentences which describe the claim.
== DO NOT remove any sources as you apparently did to the article Muzaffarids (Gujarat) ==
Hi there again. It seems you have removed sources of the Khatri Origin of the Gujarati Sultans when there were several and various sources proving the origins of the Sultans were Khatris
I haven't removed any source, but added various sources from Satish Chandra's book who is himself a khatri and a historian, along with Kishori Lal Saran and many more sources. It seems you did removed the references without any reason. I didn't removed anything but added the legitimate references [[User:RS6784|RS6784]] ([[User talk:RS6784#top|talk]]) 13:36, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
== DO NOT remove any sources as you apparently did to the article Muzaffarids (Gujarat) ==
[[File:Nuvola apps important.svg|25px|alt=Warning icon]] Hi, it seems you were the last person to have edited the page [[Muzaffarids (Gujarat)]] and you apparently removed sources describing the Khatri origin of the Gujarati Sultans. DO NOT continue to do this or you may end up being blocked from Wikipedia.
Thanks.
I didn't removed any source but you may get blocked if you keep on removing legitimate sources. [[User:RS6784|RS6784]] ([[User talk:RS6784#top|talk]]) 04:20, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
== Please redo adding the sources on the article Muzaffarids (Gujarat) ==
[[File:Nuvola apps important.svg|25px|alt=Warning icon]] Apparently you accused me earlier of writing the article on my perspective, but it seems you also removed sources which variously describe the Khatri origin of the Gujarati Sultans. PLEASE DO NOT remove any sources, and make sure related articles have a similar claim. The same sources from the article [[Gujarat Sultanate]] should also be in the article [[Muzaffarids (Gujarat)]] as both are related and correspond to each other.
I didn't removed any source despite the fact that there is simple error. Zafar Khan family was from Thanesar Haryana not Punjab: source clearly mentions it and even Aparna Kapadia accepts it on page 8. There were no Punjabi khatri in Haryana in those days. Tanka is not even a clan in that community, but it is a lower ( Gaurwa) division of kshatriya community of Haryana. Here the word kshatriya doesn't meant Punjabi khatri. All that claim is based on archived translated version from Urdu to English which makes Kshatriya sound as Khatri there. Even Punjabi khatri historian like Satish Chandra doesn't accept that he was Punjabi khatri.
Still, I didn't removed any source but just see what you did on the previous occassion by removing all the references. [[User:RS6784|RS6784]] ([[User talk:RS6784#top|talk]]) 04:13, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
== Please take a look at the article Gujarat Sultanate now. ==
Hello, I have corrected your mistakes by balancing out the sources from the article [[Gujarat Sultanate]], and have not removed any sources.
I was not removing sources, but restoring older edits. Apparently those new sources were not from the older edits that's why you thought I was removing them. DO NOT try to remove any sources regarding the Khatri claim.
== You are giving historian Satish Chandra as your defense, please explain about this source below ==
<ref>{{Cite book|last=Misra|first=S. C. (Satish Chandra)|url=http://archive.org/details/riseofmuslimpowe0000unse|title=The rise of Muslim power in Gujarat; a history of Gujarat from 1298 to 1442|date=1963|publisher=New York, Asia Pub. House|others=Internet Archive|pages=137|quote=Zafar Khan was not a foreign Muslim. He was a convert to Islam from a sect of the Khatris known as Tank.}}</ref>
That is why I said it should be written as various sources describing the dynasty "" . Pls understand this simple English. [[User:RS6784|RS6784]] ([[User talk:RS6784#top|talk]]) 04:02, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Satish Chandra is Punjabi khatri Historian. He knows better about his community than you and me. If that guy who was no love lost and has been biased towards his community didn't claimed Zafar Khan to be Punjbi khatri than that it is enough. Regarding Satish Chandra Mishra claim about khatri, it is all based on translation and archived version translation error from Urdu to English can result into such things. That is why other historians doesn't agree with it. Here it was kshatriya ( Mirat - i - Sikander source) not specifically Punjabi khatri.
Anyways both perspective are there on the page. [[User:RS6784|RS6784]] ([[User talk:RS6784#top|talk]]) 04:18, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
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== It is not just historian Satish Chandra, and please prove his Khatri origin ==
I may be wrong, I believe it was the user HamirKalchuri editing and removing the Khatri sources, but DO NOT make unsubstantiated claims about the origin of the historians now.
What ?? Satish Chandra is a Punjabi khatri writer from Pakistan who settled in Meerut area. What fact I wrote wrong here ? This is true.
Then why you were accusing me of removing things. [[User:RS6784|RS6784]] ([[User talk:RS6784#top|talk]]) 13:28, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
I am talking about Satish Chandra and not Satish Chandra Mishra. [[User:RS6784|RS6784]] ([[User talk:RS6784#top|talk]]) 13:29, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
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Fair okay thank you, will provide it [[User:RS6784|RS6784]] ([[User talk:RS6784#top|talk]]) 19:57, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
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