Talk:Battle of Kunersdorf

Changes

I have changed Austrian-Russian victory to "Russo-Austrian vicotry" since the Russians accounted for 41,000 troops on the field (the Austrians had 18,500 troops, mostly in reserve). Although there are claims that Loudon's participation was instrumental to the victory, the Austrians accounted for only ca. 30% of the allied army, and the overall command was Saltykov's. When Loudon faced Frederick II by himself, he was soundly beaten at Liegnitz in 1760. Vitoldus44 18:51, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Info box

Info box is overly detailed and confusing this defeats the purpose of the info box which is to give the gist at a glance. Much of that information should be moved into the body of the article and ref'd as it does not agree with what's currently written in article.Tttom1 (talk) 17:16, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

GA Review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Reviewer: Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk · contribs) 01:59, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Will take this one. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 01:59, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

• Lead and infobox;
  • 41,000 Russians and 24,000 Austrians "respectively"
  • No need to cite the info in the infobox because it is just a representation of already cited data in the prose this is a debatable change, and I'll leave it this way until the MH standard changes.
• Section 1;
  • Frankfurt an der Oder; in lead it is "Frankfurt (Oder)", be consistent fixed
• Section 2;
  • suited itself well to defense; is a bit awkward and confusing, reword fixed
  • south-west, north east, south east, south-east; be consistent, use hyphenation or just leave it. Fix through the article fixed
  • Why italics for "all" in "that all the Allies"? Frederick thought that he would face a few, not all emphasis
  • army around to the south east This way; a full stop after "south east" fixed
• Section 3;
  • 2 a.m. -> 2:00 am, per MOS:TIME fixed
  • redeployment is a single wordfixed
  • 11:30 , am or pm?, format per MOS:TIMEfixed
  • 80 enemy cannon -> 80 enemy cannons
  • Who is Prince Henry?fixed
• Section 3.1;
  • rank or title of Friedrich Wilhelm von Seydlitz?fixed
  • Cossacks is over linkedfixed
  • last-ditch effort; it is not a standard dictionary word, better use general wording Merriam webster, Cambridge, Columbia, and in thesauruses.
  • led an Austrian and Russian horse counter-attack; this is a bit confusing, did he uses horses to counter or what? make it clearer ok, but general use for cavalry is "horse"

Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 15:31, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

• Section 4;
  • they participated in the Battle of Maxen; did they win the battle? mention that moved to footnote
  • Cossack and Carl Heinrich von Wedel; they are over-linked fixed
  • Lieutenant General August Frederick von Itzenplitz(5 September); care the spacing fixed'fixed'
  • The crushing defeat fixed (although sources say"crushing")
  • Henry? What was his full name, any rank, title, position? and link fixed
  • her nephew; mention the full name fixed
• Section 5; all good
• 3.8% confidence, violation unlikely

Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 23:49, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

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GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 02:27, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Russian before the battle was 41.248 people and the Austrians - 18.523. These figures are in the documents and in all Russian scientific works. Why do you ignore this data and use German invention? 91.188.184.57 (talk) 17:32, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Suvorov was only a major fighting in his first actual battle at Kunersdorf, he should not be listed as a commander here.

Frankfurt an der Oder, second largest city in Prussia

I very much doubt that Frankfurt an der Oder at the time was the second largest city in Prussia. In 1750 it had a civiliam population of 9,470 [1]. Compare this with Breslau's 55,000 in 1750 and Königsberg's 47,939 in 1768. Stettin had about 13,000 in 1750, Magdeburg had 18,000 in 1740, Halle had 13,460 in 1751. This is not to stay that Frankfurt was not all that important a city; it just was not so much the size of its population but its strategic location as a gateway to Berlin for any foreign army that crossed the Oder there that made this city so vital at that point in time. Proofreader (talk) 23:21, 20 July 2023 (UTC)