Talk:The Sandman (comic book)

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the The Sandman (comic book) article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Archives: Index, 1: 2 months

The Sandman (comic book) has been listed as one of the Language and literature good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Review: February 8, 2015. (Reviewed version).

Horror Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Horror, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to fictional horror in film, literature and other media on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit one of the articles mentioned below, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and contribute to the general Project discussion to talk over new ideas and suggestions.HorrorWikipedia:WikiProject HorrorTemplate:WikiProject Horrorhorror
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Comics: DC Comics High‑importance

	Comics portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Comics, a collaborative effort to build an encyclopedic guide to comics on Wikipedia. Get involved! If you would like to participate, you can help with the current tasks, visit the notice board, edit the attached article or discuss it at the project's talk page.ComicsWikipedia:WikiProject ComicsTemplate:WikiProject ComicsComics
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by DC Comics work group.
	This article is a candidate to be the project collaboration of the month.

This article has been viewed enough times in a single week to appear in the Top 25 Report. The week in which this happened:

August 7 to 13, 2022

Need more bulk to Critical reception

The article looks really great and well-referenced, and I believe its almost eligible for GA nomination someday. But the critical reception needs more content. I think it's too short, and we should write the comic book's overall commercial sales and other critic's opinion on it rather than just depend on the awards.Bulls123 (talk) 17:39, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Which graphic novel?

The intro section says "In 2013, Warner Bros. Studios announced that David S. Goyer will be producing an adaptation of the graphic novel, with Joseph Gordon-Levitt.[5]". Which graphic novel does it refer to? There are at least ten in the series. The cite doesn't say anything about the matter (or about it being from a graphic novel at all). Either way, it probably shouldn't use the term "the graphic novel" which implies there is only one. Thanks. :) --Irrevenant [ talk ] 07:23, 31 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:The Sandman (Vertigo)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Jaguar (talk · contribs) 17:18, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Appears to be a solid article. I'll leave some initial comments within a day ☯ Jaguar ☯ 17:18, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Just a question, in "Further reading", why refer only to the Preface of The Sandman Papers? It is a book of literary essays on The Sandman and seems all the essays would be relevant and informative on the subject. maclean (talk) 23:46, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest I have no idea, maybe that's a question for the nominator? ☯ Jaguar ☯ 22:06, 6 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

Is it reasonably well written?
A. Prose is "clear and concise", without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors:

B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
A. Has an appropriate reference section:

B. Citation to reliable sources where necessary:

C. No original research:
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. Major aspects:

B. Focused:
Is it neutral?
Fair representation without bias:
Is it stable?
No edit wars, etc:
Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:

B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
Overall:
Pass or Fail:

Initial comments

"Artists include Sam Kieth, Mike Dringenberg, Jill Thompson, Shawn McManus, Marc Hempel, and Michael Zulli" - be careful of over-mentioning and WP:OVERLINKING straight up in the lead. This should only include all the 'crucial' editors rather than a full list of staff credits
"It ran for 75 issues from January 1989 to March 1996" - the infobox says that two new publications existed in 2009 and from 2013?
"The Sandman is a story about stories and how Morpheus, the Lord of Dreams" - wait, is Morpheus still Dream? Seems confusing that he is two different names
"in a black-and-white Annotated edition" - why is Annotated italicised?
The lead is missing important chunks of information from the article, so this doesn't comply per the WP:LEAD at this present time. More specifically, it has no reception paragraph (what critics thought of it). This can be achieved by shifting content around
Some red links in the Creation section. If the people aren't significant, unlink!
The fifth paragraph in the Original series section is just a huge list of people, going against WP:OVERLINKING. It wouldn't hurt to cut down or remove entirely
Summary section completely unreferenced
Please make sure every paragraph in the Collected editions has a citation
I think the bullet points in the The Sandman library section can split through this GAN, but is it necessary to include the ISBN numbers in prose? Seems a bit listy
"It has been announced that David S. Goyer will be producing an adaptation of the graphic novel," - weasel words, and when was this announced?
The Television section should be in prose and not bullet points

References

No dead links

On hold

Sorry for the delay. This appears to be a solid article so it wouldn't take much of a job to push this up to a GA standard. All I see her are a few prose problems and the lead is missing information - so it shouldn't be too difficult. I'll leave this on hold for seven days for you. ☯ Jaguar ☯ 22:06, 6 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Fixed some stuffs. Hope it's enough. Anything else?Bulls123 (talk) 15:29, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That's looking good, thanks for your improvements. I think we're good to promote this

☯ Jaguar ☯ 17:15, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 7 external links on The Sandman (Vertigo). Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Corrected formatting/usage for http://www.toonopedia.com/sandman3.htm
Corrected formatting/usage for https://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/07/neil-gaiman-sandman-overture/
Corrected formatting/usage for http://www.vertigocomics.com/comics/the-sandman-overture-2013/the-sandman-overture-2
Corrected formatting/usage for http://www.whatevercomics.com/
Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20131015020019/http://www.worldfantasy.org/awards/1991.html to http://www.worldfantasy.org/awards/1991.html
Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20131014232309/http://www.locusmag.com/SFAwards/Db/NomLit50.html to http://www.locusmag.com/SFAwards/Db/NomLit50.html
Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20131207114250/http://www.mania.com/gaiman-stardust-beowulf-sandman_article_90327.html to http://www.mania.com/gaiman-stardust-beowulf-sandman_article_90327.html

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 02:04, 6 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Draft article for the TV series

This is a notice that there is a draft for The Sandman (TV series) at Draft:The Sandman (TV series) until such a time that it is ready for inclusion in the mainspace. All are welcome to come help nurture the article's development there. — YoungForever^(talk) 22:45, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 23 October 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 03:05, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Sandman (Vertigo) → The Sandman (comic book) – Proper disambiguation, and this is the only comic book with the Sandman title we have an article on. Also, I think it's a slightly misleading title as most of the series was published under the main DC banner, and starting this year all reprints are coming under DC Black Label. JOE BRO 64 19:49, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support move based on nomination. --ZimZalaBim ^talk 21:12, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, is this title enough to disambiguate from the several other Sandman comic book characters?? I could see it being misconstrued.--Ortizesp (talk) 18:50, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ortizesp, yes because Sandman (DC Comics) and Sandman (Marvel Comics) are clearly about characters, while this is the only article that is about the comic itself. Also, the current title of this article could definitely be confused with the Sandman (DC Comics) one because Vertigo was just an imprint of DC, not a separate entity. JOE BRO 64 20:41, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Afterword

Afterword is here https://web.archive.org/web/19970605010926/http://www.dccomics.com/sandman/tori.html TOC is here https://web.archive.org/web/19970605010118/http://www.dccomics.com/sandman/sand_toc.html

I like finding old resources on archived websites as they can help editors with the development of this article. WhisperToMe (talk) 18:20, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]