User talk:Andreasegde/Archive 9

Uhh-err Missus... andreasegde 08:28, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Rod/Arse Fiasco

Of course you may. Just give me a citation.--Crestville 14:07, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

I have no idea what you mean, young Sir. Were you thinking of the "Vicar in Cleavage Probe" Headline in "The Daily Scum"? andreasegde 17:01, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Ahhh... now I understand. You were referring to the infamous quote about extracting a solid metal object from one's nether regions that I politely requested to use. Sometimes it takes awhile for the old brass penny to drop, tha' knows. andreasegde 19:57, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

I still think the funniest thing I've read recently was from the fellow who was all upset because he couldn't understand anything you guys say on talk pages. I mean, I can't either, but it never gets in my way - I chalk it up to cultural differences. (Damned if there isn't a wikilink for any phrase that pops into your head!!) Tvoz |talk 01:43, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Anytime you want to know, Tvoz, don't hesitate to ask. andreasegde 15:53, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Block party (Count it!)

What are you playing at getting blocked you wally? Surely you don't think that he actually is Martin Lewis? Were you trying to get blocked? It's all starting to sound a bit weird to me, Edgy. Though I must admit, I don't think you were guilty of a "personal attack" and the points you put foreward were rather convincing. Just play safe in future. Now, I'm off to laugh at Mark Langford's recent death again because LessHeard vanU just suggested I might be becoming *gulp* a respectable contributor. Hopefully this should get me blocked. Nah ha!--Crestville 21:31, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I must admit that I have a northern english failing: I thought that I should go out on a limb and see how far I could push it. Saying that "You Sir, are a liar and a cad" (even though I was being Sir Sean de Garde at the time, and having a bit of a laugh) was over the line, but I still believe my theory. I have now "broke my cherry", as the Mafia are wont to say. It was about time, don't you think? I can't always be that andreasegde twat that sticks his nose into books and goes on and on about citations without overstepping the mark now and then (it would mean that I would be guilty of being a banker-wanker, which is nothing short of attempting suicide and failing miserably... :)) All-in-all, I don't give a monkey's (be careful, we're talking in code here, as Vera was accused of) but it's all part of a hard day's night.

What I am really happy about is the wonderful and supportive e-mails/posts I have received about us "Big T Beatles" fans. They warmed the cockles of my heart. When my unfortunate thingy has expired I will put the final touches to Mimi. If Kingboyk thinks it could be an FA, then who am I to quibble? Oh, how Mimi will cackle in her grave... What about a photo of the old bag, Oh wonderful Crestville - my junior, but yet my senior in all matters pertaining to Pedia? andreasegde 22:48, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

This is great (honestly) that I have been blocked, because I am still allowed to write on my own talk page. Now you can all see how much waffle I can produce, and how much I really need to write things on a computer keyboard by only using two (middle) fingers. Normally I would be combatting all sorts of unwieldy stubs/starts,/B-class, or articles that have an 'owner', but now you have my undivided attention. I pity you all... Maybe they should do it more often. :)) andreasegde 23:00, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

I'll have a look and get you a few links, then you can look into it and see if we can get away with fair use on them

I know what you mean about these little arguments, though. When you're having fun and your winning it's so easy to get carried away and, as a result, blocked. Been there. Many, many times.

BTW, you have LessHeard to thank for my coming to talk to you. I didn't even realise you'd been blocked, but he was concerned for you and alerted me and Vera. He's not so bad, is he? I think, nay, demand you put your differances aside and fuck. Well, maybe just the first one.--Crestville 23:04, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

I know, because I read your page, and I still love him. andreasegde 23:41, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Blocked for 24 hours? Do me a lemon, Del Boy...

If I am not allowed to contribute, then I shall contribute (in my own way) about my feelings for the people I have come to know and love on these pages, because I have to have an outlet for my creative juices (paraphrased, of course, and in no way filthy...) So... and in no particular order:

• Crestville: A young man with a wonderful outlook on life, (and so experienced for someone so young) a very keen sense of humour, a brain (which is not usual) and has a wonderful way with words that can be insulting, but extremely funny, for those that know the code...
• Vera: A family man (which leaves one with a sense of jealousy and pleasure) who is a bleedin' actual, in your face hero, and who is the Salt of the Earth. He knows where he stands, which is hopefully not under a steel girder. He contributed when he was fresh out of hospital, for God's sake.
• Kingboyk: Has this man ever lost his temper? I truly believe not. An Oracle of good thoughts and wise counsel, and who never buckles under pressure. He is truly wise (and not Ernie) and should be elected President of somewhere important.
• Less Heard van U: Undeniably a "wild card", but still has good thoughts in his heart for someone he has "had a beef with" (thank you America for that strange phrase). He is honest and true—to the point of being totally irritable—but he sails a true course, and he stands by it. One can only have respect for that.
• Tvoz: How wonderful it is to be able to correspond with a warm, caring, intelligent, funny, and wonderful human being (she is female you know, which means she gets 1000 extra points more than us raw meat-eating cave-dwellers with clubs in our hands). She is a birthday present to Wikipedia, and we should all celebrate that fact.
• LuciferMorgan: He is a brick - and I mean that in the Latin sense - which means he is a solid brick in the wall of good sense. He throws in articles for GA faster than a rabbit has kids. He also stands by what he believes in (and he is right about so many things) which is to be truly respected.

There you go - I have said my piece, and I will never retract it. andreasegde 23:41, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Ha ha, wonderful (and very flattering) though this is, it seems like blocking you is on a par with solitary confinement! Cheers Edgy, your not so bad yourself.--Crestville 00:18, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

NOBODY has called me 'Edgey' for many years (they used to call me privet - hedge, get it?) I will alow this one transgresion on your part, because yer speling is so crapp, Josepppi. (I'm larfing, as always...) andreasegde 00:26, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

ATTENTION ADMINSTRATORS: BLOCK THIS MAN FOR ANOTHER 24.... he says such sweet things when he's not off sorting through mendips and mimi and not making brian seem too gay and all such ..... Tvoz |talk 01:22, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Sir! I wish to have your Babies! A Person Now Requiring A Great Deal Of Money, An Understanding Wife, And A Camera Crew 12:41, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Uhh-err, I wrote all that when I was "seven sheets to the wind", and I'm very glad that it makes sense in the cold light of day. I stand by it. andreasegde 10:38, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Avoiding possible claims of Looney Tunes

(I'm taking a few short minutes break - I'm bored - so I think I'll write this for fun...)

No, I am not going off me rocker, going Daffy Duck, round the bend, or off me trolley - it's just that I get very miffed when I do what I am told to do (such as in-line citations and all that stuff, pore over books and try to remember what 'effin page number it was, and then have to look at it again) and realise that I'm almost on my lonesome. It's like pushing a car, and you know that one or two are pushing limply at the sides and hoping you'll do it so they won't have to get their jeans dirty. Then they complain (on and on) that it's not going to work and someone should call the tow-truck out, but you know the tow-truck won't come to a deserted part of North Yorkshire at 4 in the morning. So then you say, "C'mon, push the bleedin' thing, you lazy tossers", and they look away in all directions as if you have just farted in the vicar's face and told him that he was a Nazi in the war.

I am working on Mimi at the moment, but only for the reason that Mimi could be an FA (which would be the ultimate revenge, as John is only a B-article, Amen...) Crestville started it (and is helping) and Kingboyk is on the case, plus one or two other intelligent editors (like Tvoz and Butseriouslyfolks) have looked at it and have made great comments, which reminds me of the good old days on Paul McCartney. You can't buy that kind of friendly teamwork.

There you go - another rant that can't possibly get me blocked. (Watch this space...) andreasegde 23:40, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

"Wikipedia is all very well Stephen, but you'll make a never living at it"*

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Mimi Smith. Now, please, don't take any criticisms personally and, if you want, let me field the comments and criticisms... of course, we will get some issues, which we can work on fixing together, but I'm quite hopeful on this :) Good luck! --kingboyk 16:01, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I'll make sure I don't drink anything this time, and I will hush my mouth, zip it, shut the 'eff up, stop catching flies, and keep my peace. Promise. andreasegde 16:08, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Lol, ok. --kingboyk 16:08, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

No posts yet, which isn't necessarily bad: it's the terrible articles which get seized upon. Sometimes good, specialised articles have to wait a while to get any responses. --kingboyk 23:35, 11 April 2007 (UTC) PS Aunt Mimi would have been right in *this case

looked last night. found nothing. am too drunk now, will try tomorrow--Crestville 00:29, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Your spelling is better when you're drunk, liebling. What gives?... andreasegde 23:44, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

I tend to use less ambitious words when I'm drunk.--Crestville 00:03, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Then you must be drunk now. Ambitious is a bloody hard word to spell. So is cieling, bugger - ceiling. I always get that one wrong. "I after E except before C", which always fails me... andreasegde 00:05, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Mimi Smith

Stopped by to say thanks for the note and noticed, woah, it's been a bit hot in here lately. I attribute this to too much bitter Lennon and not enough happy-go-lucky Starkey. If everyone would only keep "Octopus' Garden" or "With A Little Help From My Friends" (or even the shamefully underappreciated "Time Takes Time") on repeat, the world would be a friendlier place! BTW, I looked around a bit but couldn't find any reference to Mimi's burial. Maybe she was cremated. I can't find an obit online. --Butseriouslyfolks 03:40, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I found out that George was buried in Woolton, even though his age is wrong, as they wrote he was 70. It has to be him, because how many people called George Toogood Smith lived in Woolton and were buried there? andreasegde 11:33, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Archives are a wonderful thing

Yes, they are. andreasegde 17:49, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

They do make the living room look a lot tidier don't they? I love getting the Vacuum cleaner out when my family have all settled down to watch a nice Sunday afternoon film about pirates, and then telling them to lift their feet as my "housewives' help" drowns out the most crucial bits, such as, "Do you love me, Blackbeard?" "Well, my answer to you, my dear lady is.." (Whine, whoosh, drone...) Mrs. Codswallop (now divorced - but open to offers)

And now...

Can anybody tell me what they really think of (big T) The Libertines? This is an honest question, by the way. andreasegde 19:16, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

I really don;t give a shit about images. As for The LIbertines? Overrated, smug, boring cunts. Up there with Bloc Party in my books, but less pious. Why they have been given the time of day is beyond me. I like Noel Gallagher's comparison to Suede: they came in and tried to make a change but never lived up to their promise, as such they were overtaken by Blur (Kaiser Chief's) & Oasis (Arctic Monkeys). Quite where Supergrass come into the equation I've yet to see, but I can't wait--Crestville 23:37, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

I saw the Libs on Youtube and I thought they were the 'effin worst band I have ever seen (discounting a toss-pot band at the East Leeds Labour Club on a drunken Saturday night). I have absolutely no idea why they were so rated. andreasegde 18:29, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Bloc Party? Sounds like somebody has been seriously listening to The Cure. andreasegde 10:12, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Mimi Smith

Although not taking any kind of part in the beetle project, I am involved in the escalation of Mimi Smith to an FA. This would prove a few things:

• Mimi would be an FA, and would have the last laugh on John, whose article was/is/will probably always be a B-Article. Mimi always had the last word...
• An article that was a stub (only a few months ago) is now up for a FAC.
• Wikipedia has too many editors, and not enough journalists. andreasegde 20:12, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

The the

I have just realised that there is an excellent way of solving the "the" problem, and it's very easy. Put the name of the band at the start of a sentence, and it is totally correct. I will give you an example:

• After the success of the Beatles, Lennon bought Mimi a bungalow in Poole, Dorset, where she lived until her death in 1992.
• The Beatles' success later enabled Lennon to buy Mimi a bungalow in Poole, Dorset, where she lived until her death in 1992.

There you go - job done, and nobody can complain. Stick that in yer pipe and smoke it... :)) andreasegde 20:18, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

That is an excellent solution, but what about in those infoboxes "Song by the Beatles". From what I read, there has been a lot of bad blood. I don't understand why the two can't be hand-in-hand: I liked the explaination of "If you talk about the income of The Beatles, you mean the collective income, but the Beatles who earned the most were Lennon-McCartney. " That would allow everyone to be sort-of right, with everyone agreeing not to keep changing each others work, because often, the Beatles OR The Beatles can be used. Hmmmm...

P.S. Unrelated - have you seen my post on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_The_Beatles

Stu 03:10, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

The info boxes are a complete joke! - Help! Studio album by "the" Beatles?? I would not dream of writing: "Lennon was in the bar, reading "the" New York Times" Why not? Because the name of the paper is: The New York Times. But look at the article, it refers to the paper mid sentence as "the" NYT, because of a style guide. And that really, at the end of the day is what has happened to The Beatles, their name has fallen victim of a prefered style, against the wishes of the majority. Two AMERICAN GRAMMARIANS have stated that to capitalise The Beatles is NOT INCORRECT. It's just as you said andrea, some penquins are more equal than others! Cheers Pal tHe bEEtLeS

That's why we set up a policy in the first place, so that by consensus we could override whatever the (American-centric) style guides say. Alas it seems to have backfired, for now.

Btw, if they aren't "The Beatles", the article should be called "Beatles". The article on the band "the The" should, of course, be "The" (or "The (band)"). (rolls eyes) --kingboyk 13:22, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree, it's ricidoodolus! (rolls ciggy) Vera, Chuck & Dave 14:44, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, I got around the 'The' on Mimi Smith's page, although I suppose someone may try to slip in a sly edit that reads "the Beatles" just to wind me up... :)) I think (just for fun, y'understand) that I will also look through Julia, Freddie, Mal, Neil, Macca and Brian to 'correct' them. andreasegde 16:01, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

You sneaky BASTARD!!!--Crestville 03:14, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

It's a well-practised English tradition, don't you know. If The mountain won't come to Muhhammad Ali, The Greatest of all time must go to The Mountain... andreasegde 16:26, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Supposed attacks

I think that I am quite capable of dressing myself these days, and although I thank the editor concerned for reverting what he thought was an attack (but which wasn't at all, because Crestville is me mate an' all that) I would suggest that he looks for vandals on proper pages, and not talk pages. I know he was only being nice, but I repeat - I can look after myself. Ask anyone on the beetles talk pages... (ouch!) :)) andreasegde 16:32, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

It's because of the Juniper berries. You understand that I am giving you this information purely for encyclopedic reasons of course, as talk pages must not be used for social chat as stated by Kingbonk. Please see our esteemed oppo Crestville's talk page. Yours sincerely, Vera, Chuck & Dave 18:47, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

One's points about arctic tales (sorry, articles)

One has read that the holder of The George Medal rolls ciggys. Yours truly is astounded by this fact, as yours truly also rolls the Virginian stuff in small pieces of French-produced paper. It saves one a lot of financial 'resources', but also takes one longer to make than it does one to light, hold, inhale, exhale, and then relight. These missives could greatly contribute to the articles about various homeless people who (whilst rolling their own cancer-inducing products) ask one for "20p for a cuppa tea". That wasn't in code, and I wish you the best, me old mucca... The Sean de Garde 19:00, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Excellent points! I think that they be included into the article post haste and forthwith, without futher delay! See WP WFD. Ed Admin

One thinks that they could be included in the article, "Friggin' Oxfordshire, in London, La". That would please one greatly, as it is an article that is deserving of some penguins' abilities concerning various regions. The Beatles lived in houses that were inhabitated by Lemon, McCorkscrew, Harry's son, and Starsky & Hutch (although not together, or at the same time) did they not? :) A concerned BBC viewer who needs to make a few points about late-night viewing schedules 19:56, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

I suppose that they could be, but remember that the Flagon with the Dragon has the Pellet with the Poison and the Chalice from the Palace has the brew that is True. Danny K.

Danny Kaye? He is an interesting case, being a pillow-biter, a shirt-lifter, and a maker of brown doughnuts. One has to give one's support to his cause however, even though one is a lover of the two large melons and an admirer of the welcoming tidal cave variety. One can only wonder at the pain threshold that certain penguins have to endure. :) Oh - how very dare you... aka, Catherine Tate 20:46, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

That's no way t'talk about me Granma, yer Girl! Peter Kaye

Beatles

As main article is called The Beatles, why should one be forced to write the The Beatles Beatles with a link to The Beatles? This means extra work, and is a waste of time. I would suggest (as Kingboyk has also suggested) that main article should be renamed "Beatles" (although I am obviously being flippant here...) andreasegde 03:31, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Flippant? No, if their name was Beatles then name of page should be changed to reflect this, forthwith, post haste and without further delay. Vera, Chuck & Dave 13:06, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

I heartily agree with esteemed colleague, as I can't wait to start correcting every single one of sentences that include horrible Definite Article. I like Beatles music, and I think Beatles from United Kingdom deserve George Medal for influencing bands like Smiths, Who, Libertines, the Oasis, the Genesis, and others. It would make Yoko happy, as she was first one to say "Beatles". Let's give Yoko birthday present. Ying-Tong-iddle I Po 03:31, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Although one will NOT find one single small definite article prefixing the group on Mimi Smith's, Neil Aspinall's, Mal Evans', Julia Lennon's, Freddie Lennon's, or Brian Epstein's pages. The Passive Tense is to be respected... andreasegde 14:11, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Absolutely. George Smith a small but well built Milkman

That phrase (a small but well built Milkman) has always bothered me... :) A very strong sense of what was right or wrong 14:25, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, you posted on my talk page and then erased it, Andreasegde, but what's the problem? I assume "Beatles" redirects to "The Beatles"--so no move is necessary. --Lukobe 23:38, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't think it would benefit either of us to go through it again, but pages that have no definite article are so because it is not part of the name. Pages that have one is because it is part of the name. If the 'T' is not part of the name, then the main page should be called Beatles as in Oasis, or Genesis. BTW, The Office, The Who, and the The Band use the uppercase T all the way through their articles.

P.S., I am afraid you will have to put up with the grumblings, sarcasm and frustration from the big T defenders, because it is like being forced to call your father by his first name, and not Dad, Father, Pa, or whatever. It's just strange.andreasegde 10:09, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Am I missing something here? Surely if the name of the article is The Beatles, then common sense dictates that the name of the band was and is, The Beatles George Smith a small but well built Milkman Oh, and why doesn't Jam redirect to The Jam?

I have another idea: The Beatles' project has a policy. Why do we need a specific policy that only relates to the project and not to Wikipedia as a whole? andreasegde 16:08, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Now that is a very good point! A tall and very well built Fireman

Isn't it weird how we miss the most basic things? Who are these people to tell us what to do when we are contributing to Wikipedia as a whole, and not to some kind of private project? Off with their heads I say, and be done with them. andreasegde 17:53, 22 April 2007 (UTC)