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Origin of Kachari

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Dear Chaipau , In Bodo kachari Page you have added Kachari term origin known to others . Why ? Nobody knew origin that that time. Now some people may have guessed something , you can't change old content as per today guess.

Please don't manipulate anything. I left Wikipedia editing. Just today I've seen this through some FB post.

From , PerfectingNEI — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.29.145.137 (talk) 05:25, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Archives

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Wikigraphists Bootcamp (2018 India)

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Chutia kingdom

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This is an earnest request to kindly stop the disruptive editing and source removal related to the article Chutiya kingdom. The Asambhinna origin is well stated in many historical books including prominent writers like SL Baruah and Ved Prakash. The fact is well established by an Assamese manuscript(copper inscription) which was found with Burmese king, as stated by N. Elias.106.207.152.77 (talk)

Please note that I am one of the original contributors of Chutiya Kingdom and I have made significant contributions to protecting the article. But that does not mean the claims on Asambhinna is correct. Please check Talk:Chutia_Kingdom#Asambhinna for comments and participate there.
Chaipau (talk) 16:09, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

about kirata

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do you have reliable resource to support your claim that Rai and Limbu are examples of kirata ? Risingsun121 (talk) 22:57, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Risingsun121: if they are not, we can remove them. But they are definitely not the only Kirata. Chaipau (talk) 07:22, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Supporting Indian Wikipedia Program resource distribution

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Project Tiger Writing Contest

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ArbCom 2018 election voter message

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Check the Ahom people religion references

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Tai Culture: International Review on Tai Cultural Studies, Volumes 3-4 Page 41 link-https://books.google.co.in/books?id=Mn5uAAAAMAAJ&q=Phuralung&dq=Phuralung&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRjs3by8HfAhUWEnIKHcX9CMYQ6AEILTAB — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chow Mridu Pawan (talk • contribs) 03:51, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have given references in my edits. Chaipau (talk) 03:52, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

cite book added to Ahom people

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Dear, chaipau due into your various disagrees i am adding a cite book in Ahom people article to include my edits with reliable sources. If you have any problem on my further edits you can discuss on my talk page before removing the edits with reliable cite books. --Chow Mridu Pawan (talk) 13:43, 1 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reference added

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Please check the reliablity , if you have any query left on my talk page--Chow Mridu Pawan (talk) 14:30, 5 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Phuraloung

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Hi. As a result of the recent page move, Phuraloung now redirects to All Assam Phuralong Sangha. Should it perhaps be re-targeted to Ahom people#Religion or Tai folk religion? I'm not familiar with the subject so don't know which would be appropriate. --Paul_012 (talk) 01:07, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Moving Pages to Ahom names

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You complained on Moving Page names to Tai-Ahom as that is against Wikipedia:Policies_and_guidelines#Naming , Kindly move the page Koh-i-Noor to Kohinur as Koh-i-Noor is the native name, Kohinur is known internatonally which more readable . And sorry for my movings , I thought wikipedia is here for the true information not for readable informations.Chow Mridu Pawan (talk) 10:06, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Chow Mridu Pawan: please refer to WP:COMMONNAME. Use of "Chow" or "Nang" in names is part of late 20th-century Ahom revivalism (Terweil 1996). They are not common yet. Chaipau (talk) 15:03, 19 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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A kitten for you!

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You are most welcome

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Ban Phi

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As you have removed the Ban Phi as a religion from the Ahom people page, I want to inform you that if we translate the word Ancestor Worship Animism into Ahom Language it will be BAN-PHI, Also similar words are used by various forms of Tai folk religion such as-

You can check further pieces of information on Tai folk religion page. Now, tell me should I use the word Ban Phi or not?? Sairg (talk) 16:18, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I do not think taking meanings from Tai folk religion is proper in this context, since we are required to use these terms in the Ahom context. From my understanding the Ban-Phi rituals are associated with all kinds of rituals that are either ancestor or animism based, and which involve blood sacrifices. So Ban-Phi is not associated with just Ancestor worship, as the Info-box was indicating. OTOH, Phura-Lung are those rituals where blood sacrifices are forbidden. These should be explicit stated in the relevant section. Since the Info-box association was misleading, I removed it. Chaipau (talk) 19:54, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It does not depend on what other people said but the Ahom People are using Ban-phi Phuralung to denote the Ancestor Worship Animism. infobox need this information.
I am sourcing this from reliable sources based on field work. Please note that it does not matter whether the source belongs to Ahom ethnicity or not. You could start a new article Ahom religion, but which distinguishes between the historical religion and the religious practices associated with revivalism. Chaipau (talk) 09:59, 31 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

3RR warning for article Assamese people

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Your recent editing history at Assamese people shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Samsara 17:21, 30 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Chaipau, thanks for your response on my talk. I see it's been protected for a few days now. Are you any closer to resolving your differences? Samsara 03:52, 7 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Samsara: I have started an RfC following advice from user:Fish and karate (User_talk:Fish_and_karate#Assamese_people_edit_warring). This is the RfC section: Talk:Assamese_people#RfC_-_Are_Dravidians_a_component_of_the_Assamese_people?. Chaipau (talk) 15:19, 7 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Assamese script

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The Assamese script which is a regional variant of Eastern Nagari script, just like Tirhta, Bengali, Anga is almost forgotten. I'm studying the 3 styles of Assamese: Bamunia, Kaitheli and Garhgaya from the images of manuscripts available online. And shocking I've found that only in mid 19th century the so called modern Assamese style started to appear during the time when Bengali was imposed. More research is needed. All the traditional variants are basically same and many letters are different from modern Assamese style which more resembles the Bengali styles. Assamese always used the "wa" diacritic but now replaced by "ba" diacritic due to Bengali influence. The Assamese 1820 bible is probably the only printed book available online where traditional Assamese was used to write Assamese. https://play.google.com/store/books/details?id=3cJWAAAAcAAJ You can see here mamy characters and conjuncts are different. Traditional Assamese should be added to unicode. These characters should not be added to the Bengali block because that's misleading and many conjunct characters and diacritics forms were different too. Some manuscripts in traditional Assamese script: https://www.sahapedia.org/old-manuscripts-of-assam (The 1st images are from hastividyarnava puthi which was written in modern Eastern Assamese.) And many more images are available online. I'm looking for more from 17th-19th century. Also trying to create a font. Unicode will never make a separate block for modern Assamese style but they will surely do for the traditional (and probably originally) one like they did for Tirhuta. Msasag (talk) 21:27, 17 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This aspect is very interesting, but I do not think anyone has made a systematic study of it. For example, শ্ব or with an additional dot or diacritic was used for শ্ৰ. This was in use till Anandaram Dhekial Phukan's time. How and when these changed is yet unexplored. The glyph for the current Bengali র was used for ৱ in Assamese, and still used for the same letter in Tirhut (114AB 𑒫 TIRHUTA LETTER VA). Chaipau (talk) 18:18, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The শ্ৰ (śra) I noticed is like the current one and another with a different variant of শ (śa). No diacritic was used. But for wa conjunct, a dot was added below শ্ব . Same character was used for সু (su) and স্ব (sba), and a dot below to make a sva. Among letters, অ, আ, ঘ, ঙ, ঠ were different and many others were slightly different. There were many alternative variants of many characters. With the "u" diacritic there were 5 forms.
1. গু, তু, ভু, শু
2. ণু, দু, নু, পু, মু, লু, সু
3. ৰু
4. কু, হু
5. খু, ঘু, ঙু etc
The ku was that nu with a hook on its back. The hu was that nu with the diacritic we see on ৰূ.
The কৃ (kṛ) was like হৃ and the হৃ was like দ with the dialect we see in ৰূ and a round ṛ diacritic below etc.
Among conjunct consonants, the ন্ধ was that nu with a diacitic we see in ৰু. The ddha and gdha were similar. The ṅka was that ku with a round symbol on top and ṅga was hu with a round symbol on top. Etc.
The time of Anandaram Dhekial Phukan 1819–1859 was a major change in the writing of Assam. In 1820 the Assamese bible was made with original Assamese characters. In 1836 Bengali became the official language of Assam until 1873. During that time Bengali influenced a lot. The 1848 book "Grammatical notices of Assamese language" mentions those characters were used in manuscripts and books. But this 1848 book uses the so called modern Assamese style. Even Grierson's book used র for ra in Assamese.
I have done some studies on them. The script was quite similar to Tirhuta. This traditional Assamese should be added to unicode (unicode will surely do). Otherwise it will be forgotten. And there will be nothing called Assamese script. Msasag (talk) 16:51, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You might have noticed that the Tirhuta nna and the la were also present in the older Assamese script. Chaipau (talk) 18:25, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yes I noticed the ṇa in Hastividyarnava and la in Dharma Purana (mentioned as Bamunia). Tirhuta has the ণ like ṇa also. Msasag (talk) 19:32, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

February 2019

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Your recent editing history at Bengali–Assamese languages shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.
Also, please follow wikipedia guidelines WP:V. The changes you are making are unverifiable. Za-ari-masen (talk) 12:31, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Za-ari-masen: I hope you will warn the other party as well. Chaipau (talk) 18:05, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sukapha

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Hi. I have seen that you are one of the frequent editors of the pages related to Ahom kings. A user by the name Sairg is involved in disruptive editing of the page on Sukaphaa. Kindly, go through it. I had given proper sources with references while adding some new content, but the user is constantly undoing it falsely accusing it to be vandalism. The jorurney of king Sukapha into Assam has been recorded in different versions. All versions are equally important and therefore I had added all the versions including the one which Sairg thinks is right. I guess he is involved in POV push. It's best if the user is reported. Thank you 157.37.161.170 (talk) 19:04, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Help to stop WP:DE

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@Chai Some users doing WP:DE WP:SYNTH and WP:NOR edits , I request users to revert these edits which even doesn't rely on the ref. sources are given.Sairg (talk) 12:17, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ahom is the Mao branch of Tai-Yue as mentioned in almost all the sources given.

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@Mr.Chaipau Do you think all the sources are confused or you are confuse??? --Namdang123 (talk) 11:01, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you!

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Because we had a nice discussion. Thank you.

Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:54, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kamarupa vandalism

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Why are deleting the image ? That is our culture . Stop deleting

Why are you deleting linguistic relationship of Kamarupan Tribes ??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by PerfectingNEI (talk • contribs) 11:37, 23 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Ahom boy , Stop yourself from deleting information related to other communities. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PerfectingNEI (talk • contribs) 11:52, 23 March 2019 (UTC) You said modern picture can't be added. There is art painting on wikipedia. Kindly add that image to Kamarupa page. I want to know if you really have right intention or wrong intention. Show me you deleted that picture without ill wish. Search Kherai and add it yourself — Preceding unsigned comment added by PerfectingNEI (talk • contribs) 12:01, 23 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@PerfectingNEI: please add referenced and relevant material please. I have made enough contributions to non-Indo-Aryan tribes of Assam and Northeast India. Please maintain WP:CIVIL. Chaipau (talk) 12:41, 23 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Boy have you studied Assam Census record 1881 ? Stop deleting something just because you don't have any knowledge . Tell me which community do you belong ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by PerfectingNEI (talk • contribs) 16:04, 23 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]


What happened ? What is your qualification Ahom boy ? Why did you removed the correct image with reference — Preceding unsigned comment added by PerfectingNEI (talk • contribs) 16:13, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bodo-kachari

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Stop adding controversial things in Bodo-Kachari group. We never edit your Ahom page. So, Don't cross your limits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PerfectingNEI (talk • contribs) 09:38, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Dear Ahom Boy , Stop editing Bodo related pages. Do you really want me to give distorted interpretation of Ahom ? I have seen many wrong information given by you and your Ahom cadres. So , Don't force me to distort entire Ahom history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PerfectingNEI (talk • contribs) 06:19, 26 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Kachari Kingdom

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Do you know who started Dimasa kingdom ? Stop deleting picture. You Ahom boy should focus on Ahom page. Dimasa kingdom started by Bodosa clan. Which later become many other tribes like Thengal , Sonowal etc. So, Learn first. Stop your stupidity . Your Sukafa is also modern image. Go and delete it — Preceding unsigned comment added by PerfectingNEI (talk • contribs) 15:13, 29 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bodo culture

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Ahom chaipu , You have been trying to distort information. Don't you know Bathouism is oldest religion. It's purely non-vedic that's why Mlechcha name was used by Brahmins. You Ahom do research on Shan , Stop adding your nonsense line in Bodo page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PerfectingNEI (talk • contribs) 13:06, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@PerfectingNEI: reference please. Where is it reported that Bathouism is the oldest religion? Chaipau (talk) 13:15, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Just tell me, where is it reported Bathou influenced by Hinduism ? Read journal , you will get everywhere. Of course religion evolve , Even hinduism evolved in Kamarupa , Kalikapurana written in assam. So, Stop adding your nonsense statement everywhere . You are trying to change meaning. I understand your intention . You Ahom have been trying to steal Bodo culture. You created artificial meda-mefi , concept Stolen from us.

@PerfectingNEI: Please provide reference that Bathouism is the oldest religion. I don't care for the names you call me, since I have been called similar names by Ahom fanatics. but I might report you for WP:CIVIL. Chaipau (talk) 13:24, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You have changed the meaning of paragraph giving wrong information. You are completely propagandist. Don't worry. I will not report you. Just your action will be recorded for future conclusion — Preceding unsigned comment added by PerfectingNEI (talk • contribs) 13:29, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]


You have deleted many images. Sukafa is modern image i.e artificial. Why don't you delete those images. You Ahom try to write your name everywhere , Delete Ahom name from Kamarupa page. Ahom couldn't rule that huge kingdom as before. Go and delete it first. Then talk to me. Be unbiased. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PerfectingNEI (talk • contribs) 13:33, 1 April 2019 (UTC) http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/bitstream/10603/92829/10/10_chapter%204.pdf[reply]

https://www.youthkiawaaz.com/2017/03/religion-for-nature-stewardship-a-perspectives-from-bathouism/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by PerfectingNEI (talk • contribs) 13:35, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I did not delete any image (please use language carefully). I removed the use of Akhridima.jpg from use as a coat of arms of the Kachari kingdom on historical grounds. But the use of later illustration of a historical figure is different, and I am following the policy as given here: [Wikipedia:Historical_portraits_and_pictures#Artwork_illustrating_later_views_of_a_person]. Akhridima does not even look like a coat of arm. I suspect the coat of arms given in Chutiya kingdom is also wrong. I have removed Akhridima to encourage you to find the correct coat of arms. Chaipau (talk) 14:07, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ANI notice

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Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. — Ƶ§œš¹ [lɛts b̥iː pʰəˈlaɪˀt] 04:46, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you

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The Original Barnstar
For tireless effort in editing Assam-related articles. Under difficult circumstances, Chaipau demonstrates civility, assumption of good faith, and guideline-based argument at their best. Richard Keatinge (talk) 07:25, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Bodo

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Dear Chaipu , you have added citation needed to - " bodos are first to cultivate rice and rear silk" . I'm unable to add the citation. If you are good guy then add it - Here is the link - http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/bitstream/10603/220083/10/10_chapter%206.pdf

page number 6 last paragraph — Preceding unsigned comment added by PerfectingNEI (talk • contribs) 16:22, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@PerfectingNEI: we will need a better source than this. Because it is well known that the Austroasiatic people moved into Northeast India and then peninsular India and these people introduced rice into peninsular India. Though it is possible that the Bodo-Kachari later introduced a more advanced rice cultivation system that is based on irrigation --- as evidenced from the names of the rivers (Di-). Chaipau (talk) 13:31, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Origin of Rice is china bro and origin of silk is china . You know Only Bodos have highest level of Austro-Asiatic frequency in entire world. Bodos aren't pure chinese. We are both austro-asiatic and sino-tibetan.

You can read research paper about DNA analysis

@PerfectingNEI: today the Bodo-Kacharis are a mixture of Austroasiatic and the original Tibeto-Burman. Totally makes sense. But that does not make the Bodo-kacharis the ones who introduced rice in northeast India. Chaipau (talk) 17:56, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the prove Austro-Asiatic introduced rice in North-East ? I never heard about it ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by PerfectingNEI (talk • contribs) 19:08, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Austroasiatics are credited with not just introducing rice cultivation, but the domestication of rice as well. Chaipau (talk) 18:48, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of Dispute resolution noticeboard discussion

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Bodo People

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Hey bro , Bodo-Kachari actually mean Boro . Bodo shouldn't deleted. You should delete Bodo-Kachari. Or redirect Bodo people page to Boro Tribe. Otherwise people will be more confused in future.

Anyway, I have redirected Bodo to Boro. Let people learn that actual word is Boro not Bodo

@PerfectingNEI: this is not supported by sources. You cannot change the names of All Bodo Students' Union, or Bodo Sahitya Sabha. Chaipau (talk) 16:01, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

BhaskarVarman

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Why did you delete the information about Kachari(Bara) Folklore. It's written before any copper plate was discovered. Even Padma Bhushan winner suniti kumar chatterjee acknowledged it and Many intellectual acknowledge it as Boro king. If people can give controversial book , why do delete the folklore verified by copper plate findings ? Why do you hate Boro ?

@PerfectingNEI: sorry, it was not written. Folklore is oral tradition and it cannot be dated so easily. Chaipau (talk) 01:02, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This folk / oral tradition is verified by recently discovered copper plate. Then tell me , Is there anyone other than Boro or greater Bodo / Bodo-Kachari ? I have added what is told told by Edward Gait. Don't delete it. There are 1000s of intellectual who acknowledged all bhauma dynasty kings to be Boro or Kachari . Read the kachari book . It's written before 1906. Everything is recorded

@PerfectingNEI: please could you point out what Gait has said? Chaipau (talk) 15:46, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Anyway , The kachari book have all records of Ancestors worshiping , Important folklore , Important clan names with special privileged written before 1906. Before any copper plate was discovered. These newly discovered copper plates have verified our oral tradition. We haven't created new folk stories. We had old folk stories and These folk stories are being verified by newly found copper plates.

Which records are these? Are these dated and published? Chaipau (talk) 15:46, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Kachari book is published in 1911 . Writer died in 1906. That means Book was completed in 1906. And first copper plate was found in 1912. See bathou religion itself developed from ancestors worshiping. In past, There was no school like today. All culture passed down generation after generation through practice. And our culture and folk tradition were first recorded by Britishers . According to our aged people, we had written books and writing system , which were destroyed by our enemies. Anyway, Britishers had recorded about our unique culture & tradition and folklore before 1911. These folklore , Clan names are helping us to relate us with past. For example , Ramchiary clan connect King Amritta's kingdom expansion from South of Brahmaputra to North of Brahmaputra. There is ramsa hill in kharguli and ramsa village in Betna mouza ( Betna was capital of some king) We will publish all this upcoming future.

Our entire history can be traced in transformation of religion and brahmin added mythology. Bhudevi + Hiranakshy ---> Basumati-aroi  ; Bhudevi + Varaha ---> Boro and Borahi  ; Banasur --> Mlechcha / Mech  ; Hidimba ---> Dimapur  ; Bhismak ---> Sadiya  ; Siva ---> Biswa singha  ;

Thanks , Good night

Are you referring to Endle's book? Also, the myths that come to you come from other sources, outside Assam. Further you cannot compare the year "The Kacharis" was written to the find year of inscriptions. The points you are trying to make are already made. They are known and they are represented in the Wikipedia. Some of the associations you are showing are far-fetched, whereas some others are evidences of Hinduizations. Chaipau (talk) 17:26, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I think you didn't get my point. I have said that Folklore , Clan system believe are very old. These were written down in British time only.
Since,we were not in power like ahom , we couldn't write history like ahom.

My words are very simple. Some outsider came and inserted those mythology in our ancestors brain in millennium years back. Which became part of our Folklore and Clan system. My conclusion is those believe system remained within us because Our Kings also believed so. That's why copper plate give same conclusion as folklore and clan system. Some people may think that to match the history , we created new new folklore. It's not true because those oral folk and clan system recorded before any copper plates were found. Anyway, Entire world , India acknowledge those as Bodo kingdom. Only some people of Assam try to create controversies . In Assam, Aryan try to claim kamarupa kingdom whereas these are some dhovi tati kangka gowal chamar chandal kewat doom etc according to Sankardev notice about people of his period. Many are just brought by Ahom and Koch kings

@PerfectingNEI: the issues you mention here have been discussed in the academic literature as well as in Wikipedia, in the context of different articles. The myths are not from Kamarupa inscriptions but from old texts, including the 9th century Kalika Purana. In Wikipedia, look at these articles Narakasura for a brief history of how these myths have developed. These myths did not originate in Assam, most likely, but were definitely adapted in Assam, at least in part. So you have to be careful interpreting them. Here, on Wikipedia, you have some rules you will have to follow. Litigation is not how you can decide what happened in the past. Chaipau (talk) 18:37, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Narakasur don't replace kiratas , Kirata is just umbrella term for mongoloid in pasts. Narakasur replace Danava dynasty. Narakasur belong to Bhauma dynasty. Bhauma dynasty is nothing but Basumatari (Basumati-Aroi) clan. This clan always had special previlege over lands. Anyway , No need to write in wikipedia. We will do it legally in upcoming future. Good Bye.

The historicity of Narakasura is not established. Bhaskarvarman himself (or the composer of his copper plates) places three thousand years between him and Narakasura. Obviously it is a fabrication. Chaipau (talk) 15:46, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bishnu Rabha

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What do you know about Bishnu Rabha ? Have you read Bishnu Rabha Rachanavali vol 2 ? Read this Mr Chepu :P "Bishnu Prasad Rabha , isn't contractor, isn't Minister , isn't Satra Owner, isn't Atheist , True Mahapurushiya Vaishnavite but Eat fish & meat , Zamindar of 2500 Bigha land but not a Capitalist , landless ... Don't wear Ochre dress but a Hermit , hadn't done five-ten research at university but a researcher historian anthropologist , Revolutionist but Romantic , Don't differentiate communities but Differentiate rich and poor , father of three children but not complete worldly , Communist but not a fanatic . 60s but The mind of 21 . True Boro , True Assamese still Dance with Rhymes in the world Rhythm. A great human Artist " - Dr. Bhupen Hazarika

Anyway, I'm 4th descent of Bishnu Rabha's family. Read more brother. You are very naive. Good Bye. Before you touch my writing think twice.

@PerfectingNEI:
Please provide a reliable source where he is mentioned as Bodo.
Furthermore, please maintain WP:CIVIL.
Chaipau (talk) 09:27, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Chaipau: Read these books NN Acharya, Glories of Assam, Bina Library, Gauhati and Bishnu Rabha Rachanavali Vol 2 written by Himself. And Assamese wikipedia has given all these information. Why don't you check it https://as.wikipedia.org/wiki/বিষ্ণুপ্ৰসাদ_ৰাভা . If you don't know then first ask. Don't just delete it.
@PerfectingNEI: the requirement is for Wikipedia, not my education. If you do not provide citation, your text can be easily removed. If you have trouble creating citations, please look for the resources in Wikipedia. Chaipau (talk) 12:33, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Chaipau: Hello Mr. Already Link is given. Anybody can go there and get the information. Thats the purpose of Link . Get it Mr. All citation are given in Assamese page. Go there
@PerfectingNEI: this in not how Wikipedia works. If you want to insert something in Wikipedia, you will have to provide the citation. Else your contribution might get deleted. Here is a tutorial Wikipedia:Tutorial/Citing_sources. Here is the Wikipedia policy on citations: Wikipedia:Citing_sources. Also, when you leave a note, please add 4 tildas ~~~~. This will ensure that you would have signed your note.
Chaipau (talk) 12:43, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Chaipau: Why did you deleted the information given in Bishnu Rabha page ? Just go to ahom pages. Mostly fake information. I'm going to question mark on entire ahom history. You have annoyed me enough
@PerfectingNEI: watch out for WP:POINT. Chaipau (talk) 13:58, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
 : : :  @Chaipau:  Keep on deleting .  No problem.  I'm just observing your action.  Anyway , This time I'll write complete story about Bishnu Rabha.  You wouldn't be able to delete it
@PerfectingNEI: OK, this is acceptable, since you are not inserting your own version of Gopal Chandra Rabha's name. You cannot name him Gopal Chandra Mushahari. If he was born in a Bodo family, that should indeed be part of the text, as you have done now. Chaipau (talk) 14:53, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Chaipau: Haha , I'm not inserting anything so called own version. It's written in book only. Do you Gopal Chanda was had Das title ? will you call him some XYZ caste ? Till today, We have allowed everyone to grow but Now I understand who are Bodos enemy . Keep watching , I'll re-introduce who we are . Take care bye bye PerfectingNEI (talk) 16:58, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Edit warring at Bishnu Prasad Rabha...

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A kitten for you!

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You are welcome sir.

Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:41, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bodo People

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Don't delete this Boro-fisa line. If you get confused then stop reading. Boro used to call themselves as Boro-Fisa / Borosa. Let researcher decide why did we called ourselves as so. Don't just delete it. It's how we recognise each other. Boro-fisa , Dwima-fisa etc. Also we have given Hari-fisa / HARSA name to Immigrant Assamese who were Dhovi tati kangka gowal chamar chandals in Koch and Ahom kingdom. This information isn't uncited information. It's given in Sidney Endle also. PerfectingNEI (talk) 17:50, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@PerfectingNEI: Brahma's thesis has a lot to say on this. If you think this is important to include, then it should go into a section for itself. It contains no intrinsic value in the lede. Chaipau (talk) 18:51, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Since, You deleted kamarupa image. I request you to add information about confirmed Bodo rulers of mlechcha dynasty and Pala dynasty of Kamrupa. If you need more information then read copper plate inscription and kirata-janakriti. Although Varman are Boro only. But hiuyen tsang made it confusing with Brahman word. Anyway , Mlechcha dyansty is mech or bodo dynasty and Pala was relative of mlechcha dynasty. In this way both these dynasty are Bodo only. If your are true wikipedia editor then add these informations. PerfectingNEI (talk) 09:26, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@PerfectingNEI: It is generally accepted that the Varman dynasty was probably of non-Indo-Aryan origin, but it makes no sense to claim they were Bodo people. They could have been either Austoasiatic or Tibeto-Burman, or something else. In any case, it is most likely that the Varman's tribesmen have completely sanskritized, just as the Koch-Rajbangshis. The same applies to all kings/dynasties of northeast India. Chaipau (talk) 10:07, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Chaipau: Haha , You worry about Swargodeo. Fragmented memories have exposed a lot about your swargodeo . Varman could be austro-asiatic ? Have you read , Bhaskar Varman conversation with chinese friends. I think you should look at DNA report. Koch kingdom itself build by Bodo only. Rajbanshi are just modern added Bongshies. Anyway, Varman are forever Bodo kings . You like it or not truth is truth. There was nobody other than Bodos or Kacharis to have kingdom. Anyway, swargodeos called themselves descent of Krishna etc. One day , It'll become Aryan kings in future. Don't worry . No need to ping me . I'm not interested with Ahom guys PerfectingNEI (talk) 11:18, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@PerfectingNEI: Bhaskarvarman's statement to the Chinese envoy is well documented, and so is his statement to Huien Tsang. Even then it is generally accepted that he had Kirata origin. As far as Koch-rajbongshis are concerned, it has been reported that they have a significant Austroasiatic genetic component. So these things are not settled yet and should be used carefully. Chaipau (talk) 11:41, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Chaipau: Dear friend, Highest level of government document has written Koch as Bodo only. Any Koch kingdom was built by Bodo only. BTW , Boros have 0.645 frequency and koch-rajbongshi have only 0.3 frequency . BTW , Koch-Rajbongshi is new term. Koches are kin of Bodos. Now , They too understand . So there is no fight between Koch, Kachari , Chutia. Even Chutia kings were Boro'k clan. Tripuri kings were also Boro'k . One day everybody will be Bodo again. I'm Ramcha . I'm araynised before entry of Shankaria. Thanks PerfectingNEI (talk)
Chaipau protect your Ahom history instead of fighting with Bodos. If I wish then I can destroy entire Ahom history. I can convert Ahom kings into Aryan kings then prove them as Kalitas. PerfectingNEI (talk) 12:22, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I am Sorry @Chaipau: to Comment b/w your discussion , But @PerfectingNEI: You are trying to breaking civility Okay, Don't Call him as an AHOM GUY, First of all, he is not an Ahom even He Also Reverted many sourced Reliable Content on Ahom pages too Like The Bodo Pages, So there is no profit of calling him AHOM GUY infect you are showing non-civility which should not in Wikipedia,--ShangNam (talk) 13:10, 14 May 2019 (UTC) @ShangNam: Haha , Partner you came to help him . PerfectingNEI (talk) 14:01, 14 May 2019 (UTC) @ShangNam: Don't come to advice me. I've address of you all. Good Luck PerfectingNEI (talk) 14:07, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@PerfectingNEI: First of all I don't have any inetrest to debate with you and secondly I am not a partner of Chaipau , I am here only because you have talk about Ahom People and ChapPha Swargadeo Between Your Personal Discussions. Pesonally I have many edit wars with Chaipau like you on Bodod Page yet to solve, But it will better not to use racial and personal comments on Wikipedia as it's not a Chatting Platform it's an encyclopedia. Next it will better if you don't use the word Ahom in your personal discussion with Chaipau.--ShangNam (talk) 15:57, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
{ping|ShangNam}} Hi NamShang or KhamShang , I understand your discussions. Anyway, It's wastage of time to talk to you. Dont ping me. PerfectingNEI (talk) 16:07, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@PerfectingNEI:, @ShangNam: On Wikipedia, it does not matter what your ethnic identity is and what your points of view are. You will have to present material that is backed up by reliable sources and presented in an WP:NPOV manner. This is not a place to push an agenda. Wikipedia is also not a place to right a historical wrong. Chaipau (talk) 15:06, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Chaipau: Mr. Propagandist , You are the first person to add propaganda. Stop adding only your POV. You are no one to decide. Everyone's thought deserve a place. Stop deleting cited content. Anyway, First learn to write correct spelling PerfectingNEI (talk) 15:30, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ahom Kingdom

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Hello, You have removed any sourced reliable well cited edits on Ahom kingdom page. If you need more Reference I can give how much you need but stop removing sourced content based on chronichle records like Lit Phi. --ShangNam (talk) 16:01, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@ShangNam: Primary sources are not used in Wikipedia. Chaipau (talk) 02:01, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Chaipau: Really?? But can you remember the same references you used to write the whole Ahom religion Page??
The Ahom religion page is not from a primary source, but from a PhD thesis and a book. Chaipau (talk) 12:44, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Chaipau: Good , so Can you let me Add the sources on my edits ?? So, Called Phd These And many other refernces which I haven't added that stated my edits ok, So, Can I add the citation or I need to go through Admins ??--ShangNam (talk) 13:01, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, please add reliable sources. Chaipau (talk) 13:17, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ahom Religion

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I am going to add some reliable sources and content written by Priestly classes of Ahom themselves. Don't remove it you can use the talk page also, they are based on Manuscripts. Also, you shouldn't apply WP:COMMON complaints without knowing that The Priestly classes are COMMON User of Ahom religion Okay.--ShangNam (talk) 16:07, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@ShangNam: manuscripts are primary sources and not usable. Sorry. The priestly classes have been shown to not able to read manuscripts. So they are not reliable. Chaipau (talk) 01:58, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Propagandist

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@Chaipau: Is it require to write Austro-Asiatic name in Bodo page ? PerfectingNEI (talk) 22:15, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@PerfectingNEI: yes, if you claim Tibeto-Burmese are the earliest to arrive in Assam. Chaipau (talk) 22:35, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
When did I claim ? It's claimed by historian . Was there Assam then ? I think You should go to good university , Your ahom historian made you propagandist. Just watch What I'm going to do to your history. You've annoyed me enough . Anyway ,You are boring illogical . Nomadic culture and stable culture is very different thing. BTW , You were nomadic till 13th century 22:42, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
@Chaipau: Can you read english ? There is difference between one of the earliest and First settler. Stop your propaganda . 22:53, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@PerfectingNEI: I am still trying to work this out with you, and this is not propaganda. It is a matter of reporting what is in the sources. Chaipau (talk) 00:35, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Chaipau: Don't add someone else's name in Bodo page. Don't ping me. Good bye PerfectingNEI (talk) 11:34, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you!

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You are most welcome.

Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:35, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Explain Me

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he and his ancestors have been Hinduized for a few hundred years. Can you tell me when did My family Hinduised ? What if I'm never hinduised & I'm directly considered as Hindu . And Do you think tantric form of religion are Brahmanical ? PerfectingNEI (talk) 05:33, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a forum for discussion (WP:FORUM). Nevertheless, I am answering your questions that pertain to Bhaskaravarman.
  • There is no evidence to suggest Bhaskaravarman was not a Hindu. His drawing his lineage from the family of Narakasura, Bhagadatta and Vajradatta in his inscriptions (Doobi and Nidhanpur) are today understood in terms of Sanskritization and Legitimization.
  • Tantric form of worship was originally tribal that has been Sanskritized (see Banikanta Kakati (1989); Hugh Urban (2008))
Chaipau (talk) 10:45, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Since you pointed about me and my family hence I'm talking to you. If you don't know anything then don't jump to family. These are just mythological lineage taken by Kings who belongs to our community. That's it. All these Kamrup = Khambru and Kamakhya = Kham-Ai-Kha are originated from Bodo-Garo linguistic group. There are lots of linguistic book. We'll add them in upcoming future. Changing religion don't change the origin of the person. Narakasur s mythology but Bhaskar-Varman belongs to Bodo group. PerfectingNEI (talk) 11:36, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The Bodos are just an ethnic group from northwestern Assam. There are other Tibeto-Burman groups who are in various stages of sanskritization. You seem to be the Bodo to mean a genetic component, which is not correct. The Bodos are an ethnic community. And being tribal or Hindu defines the social situation here. Chaipau (talk) 11:58, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You have no understanding about religion of Bodos. We had minimum 65 hindu deities. (also written in the kacharis) So, Which bodo was hindu , which bodo was bathou , which bodo was shaivite etc can't be traced. That society was completely egalitarian. And I'll always claim Bhaskar Varman was Bodo Hindu. If you look at Koch kings , even they are written as Bodo kings because they were descendant of Koch-Mech. Mother was Koch and father was Bodo. Obviously Koch kingdom original founder was Koch Hajo . That's why it got Koch kingdom name. PerfectingNEI (talk) 12:52, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mech / Mlechcha

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Look Chaipau , Mech name doesn't exist in other tribes. It's specific to Boro tribe. Which is written as Bodo. That's it. You can re-write it as Mech tribe of Bodo-Kachari. But What type of sentence is that which write Bodo-Kachari of Mech tribe. Stop playing game of Identity expansion and Identity contraction. Whenever something comes to Boro then you are very eager to add Bodo-Kachari. And whenever something come to Bodo-Kachari , You are very eager to specify that. I can understand everyone's mind. You have constantly modifying things related to Bodos. Experienced editors like should be genuine. I understand motives and actions of everything. So, please control yourself. And if all Bodo-Kachari accept Mech was their old name then they will automatically accept Bodo as umbrella term. Do they accept Bodo as umbrella term? No , right. Yourself had added some Dimasa blames in wikipedia . Have you forgotten that ? So control yourself . Thanks . PerfectingNEI (talk) 20:00, 19 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@PerfectingNEI: the names are being disambiguated according to Bodo. Please read that page carefully. Please stop complaining all the time. Chaipau (talk) 21:17, 19 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Chaipau: leave it. No bodo read wikipedia . Bodo also means Boro. Kachari also means Boro and Bodo-Kachari also converge to Boro. Haha , Boro is ultimate name . Bye PerfectingNEI (talk) 04:34, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ways to improve Bijni kingdom

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@Boleyn: I am looking up references. Give me a little time. Chaipau (talk) 21:59, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Chaipau, I just meant the sources you got the information from that you have already added - where did you get the info from? Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 07:10, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Boleyn: this is a WP:SPLIT from Abhayapuri. I suspect the text is originally from some website(s). It needs rewriting as well. Chaipau (talk) 10:40, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Important information for you

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So, you want to separate Ahoms from Tai right?? And you think I'm trying to make the Ahoms into Tais. But the Good information is the word TAI means AN AHOM in the Ahom Chronicles written in Ahom language[1][2]. So, you can't hide or revert the truth; like you can't hide the sun with an umbrella.

  1. ^ The word ‘Tai’ as used in the Tai Ahom chronicles means to ‘an Ahom’, (Gogoi 2011:2)
  2. ^ Barua & Deodhai Phukan 1964:50

--সম্পাদক খিলঞ্জীয়া (talk) 08:00, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It is well known that the people who came in were Tai. But the people who go by the name today as Ahom is not Tai alone. And they hardly ever follow Tai customs, rituals or religions. Attending a Me-Dam-Me-Phi get-together is not being Tai. Chaipau (talk) 13:18, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I also know that this effort to create a Tai identity is related to politics. Wikipedia policies forbid WP:PROMO of any kind. I have contributed to much of the content in Wikipedia related to the Ahoms, including maps and other media. I know Ahom and Ahom history well. @সম্পাদক খিলঞ্জীয়া:. Chaipau (talk) 13:23, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Chaipau: Wow, what an amazing way to remove the sourced content! Nothing promotion, Just adding the content from the reference sources that you used too, just you can't add that contents because of your self Point of View against the Ahoms, anyways, Show me the lines that are promoting anything? সম্পাদক খিলঞ্জীয়া (talk) 14:35, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Chaipau: So you think content from Dptt. of Philosophy of Gauhati University is a promotion?? Say that you can't accept the truth from a highly studied Ph.D. Thesis which you used often, but filtering from your own point of views.সম্পাদক খিলঞ্জীয়া (talk) 15:04, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Using a source does not mean you can use everything in that source. And you cannot take stuff out of context and put that in Wikipedia for WP:PROMO purposes. Chaipau (talk) 18:29, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Chaipau Can you clearly highlight which line of my edit promoting which thing?? Just because my edits reflecting something that you don't want to include, you'll claim it as a Promotion, read carefully the WP:PROMO and tell me what advertisements I'm doing here? If you see the history of the Ahom people page you can remember that you even removed the Cho-Klong from the page this shows how much knowledge you have on Ahom! Everything I included was Encyclopedic Neutral Data. Remember Wikipedia is not your private property. Reply to me clearly with proof not just blaming with your imaginations!সম্পাদক খিলঞ্জীয়া (talk) 13:23, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@সম্পাদক খিলঞ্জীয়া:, you are following a pattern of editing through out Wikipedia, which falls under WP:DE and WP:TE. You are inserting "Tai" in places where they are inappropriate, adding texts from Ahom language inappropriately, adding links inappripriately. This, I understand, is based on your desire to establish a strong Tai connection, as part of a section of Ahom activism. This is the activism that is not appropriate in Wikipedia. Chaipau (talk) 13:17, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Information icon Hello, I'm PerfectingNEI. Your recent edit(s) to the page Mech Tribe appears to have added incorrect information, so it has been removed for now. If you believe the information was correct, please cite a reliable source or discuss your change on the article's talk page. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. I've have just linked with old claim. Because 99% Mech identity themselves as Bodo. They have both identity. Why do delete the link ? PerfectingNEI (talk) 09:37, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You are using WP:OR. Chaipau (talk) 13:24, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That book was published book. How is it OR . I'm unable to understand. Anyway, Thanks for your correction in Kachari Kingdom . Dimasa called Boros of Plain as Ramcha. (Soppitt 1885) . And Royal families of Kachar called themselves as Rang-Tsa = Ramcha. (Memoires of Captain T. Fisher published in JASB ,1840. I'll come back with next journal. Till then bye. PerfectingNEI (talk) 13:56, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Information icon Hello, I'm সম্পাদক খিলঞ্জীয়া. I noticed that you recently removed content from Singarigharutha without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. You have removed the well-sourced reliable content. It's now more than enough. সম্পাদক খিলঞ্জীয়া (talk) 06:34, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Information icon Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. The thread is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Chaipau reported by User:সম্পাদক খিলঞ্জীয়া (Result: ). Thank you. সম্পাদক খিলঞ্জীয়া (talk) 06:46, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your notice. You have been identified as a sock and blocked indefinitely. Chaipau (talk) 09:34, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you!

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Thanks and Welcome

Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:42, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bijni kingdom moved to draftspace

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An article you recently created, Bijni kingdom, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Boleyn (talk) 19:43, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sairg Sockpuppetry

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Hi there, This user named Khilantzi is a sock of Sairg(the Tai-Ahom revivalist and propagandist) Link: https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:KhiLanTzi

Look at his edits. He is removing useful information. Kindly report him.

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October 2019

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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Bengali–Assamese languages; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion

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October 2019

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Your recent editing history at Assamese people shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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WikiProject India Newsletter – November 2019

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  • A significant number of the new articles received each day are about South Asian topics, mainly biographies and cultural themes, along with the usual spam for companies. There is a huge backlog at the NewPagesFeed and more editors with experience and knowledge of Indian subjects are urgently needed to patrol the pages. If you are already a New Page Reviewer, please help out as much as you can. If you are not, please check out WP:NPP, then take a look at the requirements at WP:NPR and if you feel up to it, apply for the New Page Reviewer right at WP:PERM.
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Happy Holidays!

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Hello Chaipau: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:47, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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WikiProject India Newsletter – December 2019

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  • The holiday season has begun. WikiProject India Wishes you a Merry Christmas, a Happy New Year, and a prosperous decade. We look forward to working with you in 2020!
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