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This person is remarkably persistent. They appear to keep coming at Cellini from different computers. It is remarkable how many people out there still perceive "gay" as a slur rather than simply a fact of life for a very large number of individuals. Amandajm (talk) 13:08, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it's the same people for sure (on Poliziano and Torquato Tasso too). An italian guy who remember mussolini's words I guess : "There's no homosexuals in Italy".

Persistant disruptive edits on articles labeled "LGBT People from Italy"

Three months ago, the same user began to make systematic disruptive edits from different computers on Benvenuto Cellini, Poliziano, Torquato Tasso and Lucio Dalla among others.

The different IPs used by this person, probably Guido Lonchile (talk · contribs), are, for the more recent ones :

217.203.129.136 (talk · contribs), 95.74.248.0 (talk · contribs) and 109.52.145.74 (talk · contribs) for Torquato Tasso

217.203.139.73 (talk · contribs), 95.75.19.58 (talk · contribs)and 109.52.145.74 (talk · contribs) for Benvenuto Cellini

95.74.240.181 (talk · contribs), 217.203.139.73 (talk · contribs), 109.54.162.138 (talk · contribs) and B. River (talk · contribs), specifically created on this purpose for Poliziano.

Isn't it possible to block that person or to protect these articles ? Frimoussou (talk) 22:36, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Go to Wikipedia:Help desk and get help from an Admin. I think that it is hard to block someone that changes IPs, so it may be necessary to protect some of the articles, depending on how bad the vandalism is.

The problem with blocking IPs is that they may belong to an educational institution, so they won't do that, unless the problem is major from one particular IP.

Amandajm (talk) 04:44, 6 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' noticeboard discussion

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is User:Frimoussou's talk page actions. Thank you. Super Mario Man ( talk ) 02:24, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

August 2014

ANI

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. El Huinca (talk) 18:01, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Stick to one account

Frimoussou, in addition to this IP stating that you are Mardochee1, I (as you likely know if you received my ping via WP:Echo last year) have identified you as Mardochee1. I understand that you are WP:Sockpuppeting for a good cause, but WP:Sockpuppeting for a good cause is still WP:Sockpuppeting. Hopefully, you are not editing with more registered accounts in addition to the Mardochee1 account. A WP:CheckUser is likely to catch you. Unless you are using an additional registered account for a legit reason, you should not be using an additional registered account. The way you have used the two aforementioned accounts so far is not legit. I'm pinging 5 albert square, who is the latest WP:Administrator to block you, so that he is aware of this matter. Flyer22 (talk) 03:30, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sometimes alternative accounts are allowed--5 albert square (talk) 01:58, 7 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, they are, 5 albert square, which I pointed out above, but Frimoussou has not been using these two accounts appropriately. This is clear by comparing the Frimoussou and Mardochee1 accounts; this analyzer tool can help compare the accounts. I don't see anything that permits this editor to have used both accounts in the way that they have, including WP:Edit warring using two different accounts as though they are two different people. WP:Administrator Floquenbeam, can I get your take on this matter? Flyer22 (talk) 05:20, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have time to look in detail, but since I was pinged, I'll give my general opinion, which may or may not be appropriate here.

Generally you can use different accounts if there's a decent reason to. "Decent reason" varies in interpretation among different people.
Generally you can't use different accounts to (a) avoid scrutiny (i.e. not exceeding the threshold for doing bad things on any one account, but exceeding it in total), or (b) make it appear there are more people supporting a given idea than there actually are, or (c) to edit war.
Generally you don't want to use different accounts to edit the same articles or the same talk pages, or you're almost certain to violate 2(b), and maybe 2(a) and 2(c).
Generally you don't want to use different accounts to edit the same subject matter, or you risk violating 2(a).
If two different accounts are being used, for example, to edit from two different physical locations, then there should be some link between the two that people can see, preferably notes of some kind on each user page. Best practice would probably be to call one of them, for example, "User:Bob", and the other one "User:Bob at work" or "user:Bob(alt)" or something similar. basically, a way for people to see the two accounts are the same person, so that 2(a) doesn't apply.

That's about as useful as I can be without spending time looking at the specifics here. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:43, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Floquenbeam. I hope that it is now crystal clear to Frimoussou that he or she has been using these accounts inappropriately. I already mentioned Frimoussou's WP:Edit warring while using two different accounts as though the accounts are two different people; that Frimoussou/Mardochee1 did this is clearly seen in the edit history of the Epigenetic theories of homosexuality article. After all, how would people know that these editors are the same person unless the editors did some digging into the accounts, like the IP who Frimoussou/Mardochee1 was WP:Edit warring with did? Like the IP noted, Frimoussou also engaged in WP:Block evasion, and even commented on the block as Mardochee1. If I catch Frimoussou/Mardochee1 using Wikipedia accounts in ways that violate the WP:Sockpuppet policy again, I will take the matter to WP:Sockpuppet investigations. That Frimoussou/Mardochee1 was not blocked or at least warned for WP:Sockpuppetry when the IP reported the case at WP:ANI is silly, in my opinion. Flyer22 (talk) 01:42, 13 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

January 2015

Please stop attacking other editors, as you did on Talk:Pope Leo X. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Calling someone "homophobic" is a clear personal attack, and since you have already been blocked twice for personal attacks, I would advise you to cease and desist immediately. It would be a fantastic idea if you went back to this talk page, identified your attacks, and redacted them and apologized to the user(s) involved before an administrator can take further action against you. Elizium23 (talk) 01:00, 14 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Elizium23 I didn't pretend any of these users were homophobic, I wouldn't dare, it's certainly not true, but just that some of the words they used to qualify homosexuality : "sexual immorality", "sodomite" could be considered as such. Frimoussou (talk) 01:04, 14 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In your opinion. I suggest that you keep that opinion to yourself in view of WP:CIVIL. Elizium23 (talk) 01:05, 14 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Elizium23So, I note that "Sodomite" and "sexual immorality" are actually gay friendly expressions. I didn't know. I confess I was wrong and I apologize if I chocked anyone. Frimoussou (talk) 01:10, 14 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

WP:CIVIL does not require anyone to be "gay friendly". It does prohibit everyone from calling each other "homophobic". Elizium23 (talk) 01:12, 14 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Elizium23 I don't think I did. Nobody's could be called homophobic, even people employing words such as "sodomite", "faggot" or "sexual deviant". I understand calling each other "homophobic" is not civil, I won't do that in the future and I apologize.Frimoussou (talk) 01:15, 14 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

July 2017

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Qaboos bin Said al Said. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing.
See also WP:BLP. MPS1992 (talk) 08:59, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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