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Anti-Racism and WMUG
[edit]Hi Susan,
I would like to discuss this with you off wiki. DM me at @voxpopulare and I will give you my email address so we can communicate in more detail in a more private manner before communicating publicly.
RachelWex
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[edit]Hi SusanLesch :) I'm looking for experienced editors to interview here. Feel free to pass if you're not interested. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 15:21, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
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Congrats!!!
[edit]!!!! Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:47, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you kindly, FFF! My writing teacher told us we each get five lifetime exclamation points. We both hit our quota today. 😃 -SusanLesch (talk) 20:54, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
Featured Article Save Award
[edit]On behalf of the FAR coordinators, thank you, SusanLesch! Your work on Redwood National and State Parks has allowed the article to retain its featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. I hereby award you this Featured Article Save Award, or FASA. You may display this FA star upon your userpage. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Nikkimaria (talk) 14:43, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, Nikkimaria. Very happy we were able to save this one. -SusanLesch (talk) 23:36, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
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Thankyou for your work on Donald Trump
[edit]Hey Susan, I'm sure you know how appreciative I am of your work over on Donald Trump. I have very high hopes for where we can get this article, and having editors like you with experience working in featured content processes provides extraordinarily valuable insights. I read an essay once where it said you should not be able to extrapolate an editors opinions from their edits. I agreed with that, and I really admire how you are one of the few on the page to whom I can say that applies given your commitment to NPOV. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 16:47, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! From one Marion Nestle fan to another, we've got our hands full. -SusanLesch (talk) 19:44, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hey, I saw your comment on avoiding the lede. I'm also trying to avoid the lede. I've noticed tone creeping into your comments: definitely don't write messages other editors will read as calling them immature. I'm partly telling myself this as well; I have stepped back a bit shortly to the chocolate pages because I don't like what contentious topics apparently do to my heart. I'm sure you'll be able to take this message in good faith, that as far as Wikipedia 'needs' you on that page, you have a life outside. If this part of the hobby is not bringing you peace and satisfaction but irritation, I don't think it's worth it and there are plenty of articles on redwoods to write. Apart from all that, being short will also make editors feel you are against them and less inclined to take on your argumentation. Hope you're well. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 21:28, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
- Right you are. I will slow down and skip Trump talk for a while to cool off. Thanks for saying something.
- Incidentally, Internet Archive lost their lawsuit (which will affect a number of books available for free). -SusanLesch (talk) 15:59, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hey, I saw your comment on avoiding the lede. I'm also trying to avoid the lede. I've noticed tone creeping into your comments: definitely don't write messages other editors will read as calling them immature. I'm partly telling myself this as well; I have stepped back a bit shortly to the chocolate pages because I don't like what contentious topics apparently do to my heart. I'm sure you'll be able to take this message in good faith, that as far as Wikipedia 'needs' you on that page, you have a life outside. If this part of the hobby is not bringing you peace and satisfaction but irritation, I don't think it's worth it and there are plenty of articles on redwoods to write. Apart from all that, being short will also make editors feel you are against them and less inclined to take on your argumentation. Hope you're well. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 21:28, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]This is a thought inspired by Talk:Donald Trump#Childhood: Since it sounds like you have some decent books on hand, I hope you will replace some of the non-book sources, especially the WP:PRIMARYNEWS sources and the sources that are only used once, with better sources.
I feel like I'm explaining this badly, so to give an example, if the sentence says "The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dogs.<ref>Today's news headline</ref>", it would IMO be helpful even if you only replaced the refs with a {{sfn}} to a good book that gets re-used many times, even if you didn't touch any of the content. It would be better for the article to have 800 sfns to a couple of decent books than to have 800 refs to newspaper articles. WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:38, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for a roadmap I can use. Can you think of Wikipedia policy I can point to that as reliable sources, books are preferable to newspaper articles? -SusanLesch (talk) 20:28, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- My main concern is WP:PEIS limits, and 800 small templates are less likely to break than than 800 huge templates (as measured in processing cost, not size displayed on the page), but to answer your question, I'd start with these two points:
- Scholarly sources are preferred over non-scholarly sources per WP:RS ("When available, academic and peer-reviewed publications, scholarly monographs, and textbooks are usually the most reliable sources").
- Primary sources, including WP:PRIMARYNEWS, should be used sparingly per WP:NOR ("Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published secondary sources, and to a lesser extent, on tertiary sources and primary sources").
- A book, especially if it is written by an academic or published by a university press, could fall under both of those points. WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:50, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- Right! I am concerned about PEIS, though I don't understand it well, and my proposals to deal with it got poor reception. Cf. the edit notice on my user page.
- Wikipedia's bibliography of Donald Trump: About Trump gives me about 5 (out of 100) recognizably academic publishers (Texas A&M University: Jennifer Mercieca 2020, Oxford: Dan P McAdams 2020, Uni Chicago: Daniel W. Drezner 2020, Uni Virginia: Michael Nelson 2018, and maybe Brookings Institution: Hal Brands 2018). They aren't necessarily written with a neutral point of view. I picked two Pultizer winners (D'Antonio and Haberman) to start and I hope they help. -SusanLesch (talk) 23:09, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- That sounds like a good plan. In my experience, editors are usually concerned primarily about the text of the article, and if you don't touch that, they mostly won't object to replacing a one-off news article with a book that's already been cited repeatedly in the article. That article's a bit weird (e.g., a couple of months ago, we had editors defending a blatant violation of BLPPRIMARY), but I would think that replacing a lot of the single-use sources would be feasible. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:47, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- My main concern is WP:PEIS limits, and 800 small templates are less likely to break than than 800 huge templates (as measured in processing cost, not size displayed on the page), but to answer your question, I'd start with these two points:
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